#534 - Dierks Bentley Discusses Why He and His Wife Sleep in Separate Beds + Addresses the Controversy Around His Last Single + The Bizarre Gift Tim McGraw Gave Him + Why He Believes in Manifestation after Flying Private with Kenny Chesney + The 1 Country Song That Made Him Want to Be an Artist

On this episode of the BobbyCast, Bobby is joined by his long-time friend and country music legend, Dierks Bentley. Bobby and Dierks dove into the struggles they both have with sleeping at night, which eventually led to Dierks telling Bobby why he and his wife don't sleep in the same bed anymore. Plus, Dierks addresses the controversy around his latest single sounding like an old Puddle of Mudd song and calling the band himself. Dierks also talked about a bizarre gift Tim McGraw gave him one time, how a private flight with Kenny Chesney led him to believe in manifestation and the 1 country song that made him want to be an artist! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Years ago, I decided to separate church and state, and
I got rid of our bed and I've got two
platform beds and two box springs and two mattresses and
monsters because I'm just such an animal.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's terrible.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Wow. Welcome to episode five point thirty four with Dirks Bentley.
He now has twenty two total number one songs. He's
got a new album called Broken Branches. Just wrapped up
the Broken Branches tour with Zach Topp. And I've known
Dirks for a long time. He's a massive star. And
I felt like this was one of the most fun

(00:39):
hours I've done in a long time because it felt
pretty easy because I didn't have to like stay completely
focused because he would just like push back on things
or challenge me on things, and.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
So I like that.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
But Big Dirk's guy. Obviously. Fun facts about Dirks. He
worked at the Nashville Network now Spike TV. Is it
even Spike TV anymore? I think that's dead now you
might have changed.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
After graduating college, he worked at TNN. He researched country
music performances. He became the youngest member of the Grand
Ole Opry at age twenty nine at the time. I
think somebody has beaten him since. But at the time
he was twenty nine. He went in he was the youngest.
His favorite sports hockey. His kid also plays travel hockey, which.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
We talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
And he was an intern at the Country Music Association,
So moved to Nashville. Did it went up, all that,
had all the small jobs, became a big country star.
Here he is now episode five thirty four. Following him
on Instagram at Dirk Spinley. Here is my friend, Dirk Spentley.
Derek's good to see you, buddy. We should do a
little small talk before you get started.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, it's good to see you. How's how's everything on?
It's good, I'm great. Tours great. Good to be home too.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Both places are equally awesome. But no, it's good to
see you because usually coming in and do that show
and it's quick and it's it's always a little weird,
and you guys are all business and so this is
kind of nice to come in and.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Hang it's not all business. Well it's not business, yeah,
but you're right, there's a lot. It's a machine. It's
a machine, and it's always one of my most fun
uh and it really is. Interviews Dukes. I like everyone.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
I listened to the show, and I like everybody, you know,
you know, you get to know every one's character and
their their whole thing. So it's fun to be actually
on the set. But then it is kind of like, oh,
this is like there's we're moving through stuff pretty quickly,
it is. And I don't do a whole lot of
podcasts because I don't I just, uh, you know, I
just don't really think I have anything that's that really
interesting to say after overall, you know, I think it's

(02:27):
just kind of and I changed positions so often every
few years that anything I'm going to say probably I
won't believe it in like two or three years. But
it's interesting perspective. I do, like, I really do like
your podcast, and I like you. You're interesting dude.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Thanks. I like the small talk part of the show.
It's about that weather. It's hot out there, isn't it.
It's uh, it's hot. It sucks.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, I know, it's I feel that, And for a
long time I was confused about if I which, by
the way, the best parts of this goes on the.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Radio show too, so no pressure. Yeah, oh gosh. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
So it's like you're doing three things at once. You
do the radio show the county like that. I do
like the way you do it.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
That's good. I try to multitask as well, so that's
that's great.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
I feel I am getting older, and I consider that
maybe it was just me getting older that feels like
it's getting hotter.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
But I really think it's getting hotter. Its nothing.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
He would never keep me from doing things now, he
just started to keep me from doing things.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, in the summer here, I always say in Nashville,
it's unusable between like nine am and six pm, it's
just unusable.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
But after six pm it's great.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
You know, if you can wait around till then it
gets darker earlier because we're so far east on the
in the time zone.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
So it's way darker here than it is. Yeah. My
family's from Oklahoma and we live in the right right
the same time. It's like ten pm.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, yeah, well, just waiting to move the clocks ahead,
and it's like four thirty and it's dark.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
But yeah, that sus I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's I used to kind of try to get out
of Tennessee as much as possible. I just love Colorado
and I love being out out West and kind of
searching for climates in the summer. Now, I'm just like, man,
it's it's hot, but it's home, and it's just you know,
you kind of got to get up early new stuff
and then yeah, the middle of DA you find different
stuff to do, and if you're lucky enough to have
a pool, you can gotta you know, get in there
to go find some relief. But it's it's gonna be.

(04:08):
I know, I don't like the cold either here, and
it's it's getting the head that way pretty soon.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
So same, I don't like the cold either. You only
get to complain about one, the hot of the No.
I can play with everything. It's kind of it's kind
of how I make my money.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
You're a true musician, you get, Yeah, you gotta complain
about everything, just like a content.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, playing as content. Let's see what else small talk?
Do we have to talk about how the kids? Kids
are good? Yeah, they're all certain. Back in school.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
My son does hockey before school, so we were up
at five point thirty doing that whole thing we do
this time of year. So I always in the touring
around now because now I take on a different tour
with him, which is the travel hockey.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Tour, which is uh travel man.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, it's crazy, especially when it's a hockey in this
part of the town, part of the country because you
have to travel.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
To do it.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
There's not like a local point of their teams around,
so uh but yeah, everyone's doing good.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
The girls. My daughter, the middle daughter, is huge in
the theater.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
She did a bunch of stuff in Oklahoma City University
this summer, did like a summer intensive there for a
few weeks doing a les miz And then my oldest
daughter is a looking at colleges and stuff, and she's
my national anthem singer. She does it like all over
town for different stuff, which is pretty fun.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Did you want to pursue that?

Speaker 1 (05:09):
She's i mean, really great singer, but she's just kind
of regular teenager stuff, you know, just likes doing regular
which I love. It's like you don't have to have
some sort of crazy passion when you're sixteen years old,
you know. But I feel like this culture all of
a sudden, it's like, hey, what are you doing? What's
your you know, so and so is doing this they
want to do that. I didn't really I've fell in
love with country music a young age, with my dad,

(05:31):
But I really didn't know what I want to do
with it until I was seventeen when I heard a
Hank Junior song.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
But so one song, one song, my buddy Jack's part
of the narrative though now right it's part of the
Dark's narrative.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
It was more four years old.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
But no, but I'm saying it was one song that
probably made you, I don't know, get invested a little more.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
No, no, no, it was because up to that point,
I've been listening to all sorts of you know, just
I played the guitar.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
And I about.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
As well as I do now, and I was listening
to all different kinds of music, you know that. I think
I was sixteen seventies a lot of like pear Old
and just trying to find my voice.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
My sister loved you too, and I just trying different
things on. And I heard this electric guitar in my
room and my buddy Jack Brown came in. He goes,
I got to play something, just listen to this, and
he played me Hank Hank Junior a song called Manda Man,
and then he played me Marty Stewart's That's Country, and
then Alan Jackson's good night Montgomery, and I remember when
I heard that's Country. I kind of fell down to

(06:24):
my sat down in my chair, and it was a
real I acquitted to, like meeting my wife. It was
one of those moments it's like, oh my god, this
is it. It was like it was a it was
a very like thing, like right away at that exact moment.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Did that make you want to start listening to All
Hooked one hundred percent? Everything adjacent?

Speaker 1 (06:42):
I remember leaving every CD I had behind on a shelf,
just like I don't even want this stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
It's not country. I don't even want to try.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
I remember here trying to take all my which I
wish I had now great you know Black Sabbath, and
I had seventh Son of the seventh Son, but Iron
made all this guitar stuff because I was really an
electric guitar. I remember taking to the Great Escape, which
I don't thing is even here anymore. It was down
by South Street, which is also gone, and they didn't
even want it. It was like they didn't want in
my hairband, you know, Winger all that stuff. So I

(07:08):
remember leaving an apartment behind, just leaving it all on
the counter. I'm like, if it's not country or blue grass.
I don't even want to be like physically in contact
with it. So yeah, at that moment, it was just
country from there on, and it's still kind of where
I am musically. My wife knows so much more about
music than I do. I know country and bluegrass as
well as anybody in this town, but beyond that, it's
a little and I know I still know some winger too.

(07:30):
She's only seventeen, and what a great song.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I don't know that one. She's only seventeen. I do
know that one.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Seven. Yeah, he sings it now. She's only thirty five.
He's got a little bit older.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
See he's also it's weird all the songs that would
reference seventeen year old sixteen year.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Old fen on age well as a singer.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
That's not a good Uh, she's sixteen, she's beautiful and
she's mine.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
It's like, dude, you're forty one song? I got it.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Becky was a beauty and of a white turtleneck. Maybe
changed my song round?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Wait, what's that?

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Becky was a beauty South Alabama dad. He had a
heart like a non pad. But I was thinking by
the little white tank top sitting right but.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
There's no age reference. No, no, no, maybe eternal neck
that might be more properly. No, you're good now.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
They were like Becky was fifteen from South Alabama.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
That would be problematic.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Okay, the tank top is still okay, Yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, No, tak tops all good because that's a big
part of the song.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
So well, did you want to do music even though
it wasn't country yet, like fourteen or fifteen years old?

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, I was a thirteenth birthday party. Uh, Me and
two friends had a combined birthday party at someone's backyard Austin,
Austin's backyard and pizza party and a bunch of friends.
And the new guy was there and uh in our
grade that year, and he told me he played the
electric guitar. And I was like, what you you can
played electric guitar. That's something you're allowed to do. I
think I had. I played saxophone in the school band

(08:53):
or something. And I went to his house a couple
days later and he had electric guitar and a Marshall
amp or maybe it's a great hamp and a crappy
electric guitar, and it just hit me the same way.
It was just like I remember thinking like, wow, you
can like pick this thing up and totally change the
way you're feeling just by playing this thing. Having a
bad day, you can pick this thing up and start.

(09:14):
That was That's the thing that still sticks out to me.
But I remember about that instrument was about girls or
it's just about being able to change your mood. And
so that's what really got me into playing the guitar.
But he would, he would just advance so much quicker
than I would on the instrument. He was just such
a good guitar player. And I'm still like, you know,
just trying to get the pick to coordinate with the
left hand is still struggle for me. Even doing like

(09:37):
a cheat run or something. I'm like five out of
ten every time I try to hit that. But but yeah,
at that point I knew I just love I mean,
I always love music. I think just my generation, you know,
there was nothing else besides music. There was nothing else
was posters on the wall. It was sports and music. Yeah,
sports Arizona. I mean we had oh that's tough hockey,

(09:58):
no baseball, No football didn't exist yet. No with the
road Runners was an IHL hockey team, Phoenix and Ferno
is an indoor soccer team.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Were the Sons Yeah with the Sun and that was
a huge Sons fan.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, but death under Dan Marley and long Range, Danny
Ainge and Kevin Johnson, and I was a huge Sons fans.
There was that, But as far as like just other entertainment,
we didn't have any cable we might you know, we
just just music. I older sisters, so I mean, she's
born seventy one. So music was like it was everything
was It was the currency you traded with your friends.
Who you into, What do you listen to?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
You know? Just so it was always around.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
But and then thirteen I started playing in the seventeen
to kind of condense the story was when I heard.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Hank Junior and it was like, well that's that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Who's your favorite band as a kid or artist? Billy Idol?
I had a poster. I still have the poster.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
My mom when she moved all this stuff out, she
sent me this stuff and couldn't throw away. So I
still have a Billy Idol poster in my garage.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
I spiked my.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Hair like a wedding. Great oh yeah, white wedding. Yeah,
you know, Oh, he's so great. I used to spike
my hair. An actual autograph I've ever, I've just signed something.
It's based off of his because he had a the
B was like a sharp B, you know, like those,
And that's kind of how I kind of just based
my signature off off of Billy Idol's.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Actually, did you learn any Billy Idol music? I just
had the voice for it.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
I think that's what happened listening to him and these
other bands that these guys, these lead singers had this
higher voice, and then you listen to something like Hank Junior, like, oh,
that's a voice I can kind of replicate. It's a lower,
lower voice. You know, I could never sing that or stuff.
You know, do you.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Spend any time with Billy Idol or Hank Jr. No,
I don't. I've met Hank.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
I've always wanted to go to do the you know,
he goes around them in your house. He comes around
here and he has that uh metal what do you
call it?

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Thing?

Speaker 1 (11:44):
You look for metal like metal textor metal detector. And
he goes to people's houses around here, you know'll knock
on the door.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
He used to.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
I swear to god, you been to Tony Brown's house,
and he said, Hey, according to my old maps where
your house is was a historic battle. Do you mind
if I go back in your backyard just to a
few things. He'll go out there and kind of digging
the dirt up a little bit and stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
There are stories of people just getting a knock at
the door and it's St. Junior with a metal detector.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yes, Anastasia Brown could uh that's still her last name.
She would, she's she's told me that, and that's uh,
you know, he's done it. Chris Jansen's done it with him.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
I think, uh.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, I mean he don't ox and overlays his map
over the current you know this area and goes and
digs around stuff. That'd be pretty cool. I've never met
Billie Idol. I still plan on doing it one day,
but I never have. He still goes shirtless, and I know,
I know he credited solid plates. That's why I did
plots the other day.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
No, I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I did do ploates there with my daughter and I'm
having a hard time walking right.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
I did that with my wife, Yeah, like a month ago.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
And anything you do that's different with your body, your
body feels it. Yeah, even if it's not as hard
as something else that you're doing. No, because I and
I shouldn't say not as hard. That's unfair to Plates.
So let me say this again. Yeah, yeah, come take hey, Yes, yes,
because it was hard, but I will work out what
I feel is very hard with my trainer.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Name's Kevin Klue. Shout out Kevin Klukee.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
We go hard and I'm like, Plates, we're gonna do
some stretching. I know, it's exactly and you go in
and it's me, my wife and like seventeen.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Other women another guys.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I'm like, like, they haven't even seen me do squads.
I'm gonna win today. Yes, And I'm telling you about
a fifth.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Of the way.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, you're taking the bar, taking a strap off, You're cheating,
You're yeah, I can't hold things as well. I'm looking
around us, everybody's looking at me.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
And then the next day I'm like, oh, I'm sure.
Two days later, I can't move.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, that's how I am today. I'm kind of kind
of creeping in here a little bit so. But it
was a good daddy daughter kind of experience. But and
every dude should be doing it. I mean, it's like
the perfect workout as you get older, just for like,
you know, stretching and posture and all the fine tuning muscles.
So I'm not giving up on it, but don't do anything.
My back is always I heard my back alone time.
It's always had a kind of bad back. So I'm

(13:56):
trying all sorts of random crapper recently, just some just whatever.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I'll try anything.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I tweaked my back. Oh I was gonna bring this.
I didn't, but I have my pickleball metal. I played
it nice. I played in two tournaments.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Ever, that's why I heard my back last time.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
I tweaked my back and it wouldn't. I can't fix it.
I'm on the road with Zach Top. All these guys
are literally half my age. We'll go twenty seven, twenty seven,
but band guys are even younger than that. We'll go
and we'll go find some court somewhere. And I hate
warming up. I don't stretch. I don't want to do
the DNC dink dink. I want let's let's get it going.
I hate warming up famous last words. Oh yeah, so
let's get this thing going against these and these guys

(14:31):
are out there smoking and drinking while they're playing too,
just to add insult to injury. You know, I at
least I'm like sober, and uh, you have both my
hands available for you know, I was smoke in one
hand and yeah, it's just a small tweak. You go,
ooh that that might hurt a little bit tomorrow, and
then it just grow, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Two weeks later, it gets cold, it starts to hurt.
And yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Uh. So I played the first pickleball tournament. I play
singles because yes, yeah, that's what real men do. I
like singles also, like I can get a good work
at it. Yeah, exactly, And so I play singles and
I go and I play this tournament. I never played tournament,
and I ended up making it to the final four
and I finished third, right, and it's a it wasn't
a four point oh tournament.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
But I try below that fifth grade tournament fourth grade,
Yeah Kramer when he does, when he does fourth grade mixed.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
I was pretty happy myself played. Well, go, and I'm like,
I'm playing another one. I'm gonna go leve a level
and playing this and I tweaked my back like second game, yeah,
and I'm out. I've never quit anything, and I thought
to myself. If I don't stop, I'll never walk in
right right, I was just seeing me roll in a
wheelchair in the studio. Ye, and my back has not
been the same since. And this is two old guys
talking to if.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
You do, if you do small talk of this, you know, old,
oldish and older, dude, you're gonna have So what else
is hurting yet?

Speaker 2 (15:45):
But yeah, no, I and I've I've literally tried everything.
I got an ankle that I lost the part legit
I do. So I playing pickleball. Yeah, I was playing.
Maybe you should try something else.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
I know it's the only thing I can be really
competitive and still Yeah, Brett Eldridge is who oh yeah,
he used to reach out from about playing. So it
was only playing at his house all the time. Yeah,
and then so I.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Built I saw it. I built court here based off
of Brett's court. I know where to sneak in now.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, I've invited you over, I know, and you're like, no, no, no,
not competitive now that know you play singles and you
have a bad back.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
An ankle, but I'm missing corlage and there's nothing you
can do. It just always hurts.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
It doesn't get more injured, but I take and I inflammatories.
You do that, No, it makes it feel so much.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Better, do you. I had these prescribe me something. I
haven't taken it yet. It's it's it's excellent. Yeah. I
don't take anything I didn't even taken as I'm very
anti medicine too. Yeah, I just like it. Maybe it helps,
but maybe not. I don't know. I just don't want
to get dependent on anything.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
I do take some stuff for sleep, so I'm a
world's most horrible sleeper. Uh, but I sleep the best
when I'm not taking anything. But this time of year,
with travel and touring and just I just I'll take
literally anything. I try to get my heart beat down
about twenty nine beats a minute.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
That ain't good. You know you didn't want to No, No,
you're dead.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Just flat line, just above the flat line. And that's
where I try to get it every night, just to somehow.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
You were one of those aura.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
No, I had that whoop thing for a while, and
I I.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Wasn't much of a bracelet guy.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean I do use I
look at it every night.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
You know, I got five and a half last night
and it said apparently I don't think I did, but
it says that. And sometimes you feel like you slept
great and you oh god, I had no deep sleep,
so you know, But do you.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Like that I got a bit too obsessed with the data. Yeah,
the data, gaus, she's all about the data. I go.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
So I have I have two therapists. Yeah, good, and
one of them that's a really give me the number.
I might take one.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
I have a psychiatrist. Do you know how do you
know the sound of successful celebrity? It's two therapists.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Ye. How do you know somebody that doesn't sleep? I
mean that's what I try to do. Asleep, person, I don't.
I sleep the worst of anybody I've ever met. Oh,
I'm right there with you, just because and I never
thought I had what was additionally called anxiety.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I never I didn't disrespect anxiety. I just never had it.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
I felt it turns out it manifests itself at night
or when I start to slow down, because they don't
slow down.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
My brain doesn't slow down. Yeah, that's what's my problem.
My brain's like a little iPhone that gets like a
five percent charges. Like I'm back on again. Well that's
the road for me. Like, I got shows this weekend.
I will hopefully sleep tonight before I go to Savannah'll
fly out there first show. I won't sleep it all
between Savannah and Birmingham. I won't sleep it all between Birmam.
Why what is literally zero point zero hours?

Speaker 2 (18:26):
I know? But why? Well?

Speaker 1 (18:27):
First of all, if I'm on the bus, I don't
know how people The one we have ever slept on
the bus is in the blackout and that worked well
for a decade and a half.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Right, you just fall over. Wherever you fall over, you
wake up like an exhausted or drunk drunk got it?

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, oh yeah, just like a MacBook that's like fully
running a thousand files.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
It's in the night, you're partying.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Its great on just close it down and open back
up next morning and see what kind of damage you
did to it. That's my brain for sure. And now
it's just I'm on a bus. We're rolling around.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
I have all.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
The usual, like just so much energy right of people's faces.
And you know, my job as the lead singer of
our band is like kind of curate that energy and
move it around and build it up. And it's like
a pizza doll you're working with all it long, and
then you're back the bus. I might let a couple
of hours go by, but I'm also really tired, so
I can't stayup as late as I would want to,

(19:15):
just to crash. So I'll get in my bunk and
all this song stuck my head the other night, in
my head here at home I had. I'm so excited
and I just can't hide it. I haven't listened to
that song in twenty five years. It's somehow found its
way into my brain and I loop it all night long.
I'll wear these things called oslo. Have you seen those
earbuds you put in You can just like sleepable earbuds,
and you can listen like a book on tape, and

(19:37):
then it'll taper off into like white noise when it
thinks you're asleep. I'll try I've tried, you know, trazodone
and tried to gain a bunch of weight.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, just almost as a pasibo.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
And now I take like two five just to like think
I'm taking something, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
I just I'll do two nights in a row and
now sleep on the road. Some night makes her a
better show in.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
A weird way, maybe more raw you're more emotional for myself,
crying talk about my dad and I hold on and
I'm just like so raw. My voice is like extra
gravelly because it's just so tired. So it actually makes
for a better show for the audience. But it's a
it's a hard way to live. And usually I come
back here and do better. But I'd love to talk
to sleep therapist. It worked.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I I get scared every night. Okay. I have a
couple of a couple of things.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
One, I have to exhaust myself now by just exercising, yeah,
and watching stuff. I need to stimulate myself until I collapse. Okay, Yeah,
because I I've tried to. I meditated. Yeah, I've done
all I've done. I really have dedicated myself. I have
one Yeah, I go. We have a we have a
full red light bed. Yeah, like we've we've bought all

(20:44):
the stuff. Yea, like all the stuff stuff the same way.
And I really have an appreciation for sleep because I
don't get it.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, it's it's all superpower.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
I'm sleeping water and I can I can drink enough water.
I just can't really get this, I say, can't. I'm
still trying, So I don't want to say can't. I
don't like to say can't. Yeah, I'm in the process
of finding my best way to rehabilitate my body each night. Yeah,
but I think there are a couple factors that play
with me. One is I haven't it's such a cop out,

(21:14):
but I have some sort of my brain just won't
stop right now whatever. I have a lot of PTSD
from like getting jumped, to have my house broken into
having death of that. Read the books and this one's weird.
I'm always a little afraid that if I go to sleep,
I'm gonna wake up not here.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Every night I wonder a lot, or not wake up
at all. Yeah, Like I think when I go to sleep,
I have this odds are worn in a simulation anyway,
But yeah, one.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Of some sort.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Even if you believe and it's the god above in Heaven,
sure that this is still These bodies are a temporary.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Video games one's playing. It's amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
So I think about that every day for hours every day,
And so when I go to sleep, I'm psychotic. And
I go to sleep every night I wonder is this over?

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Wow? And it is not. It's nothing rational about it. Yeah,
you might need three therapists. That's a crazy thought, I know.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
My so I start taking volume out of nurse practitioner
that gave me Valume and I took that and it
was amazing for about eight days and then stopped working.
And then she gave me Kalanapin and I took that
for almost eight years and that was the hardest thing
to went off of it.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I finally got off that. But there's nice. Now.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
I'm like, I'm gonna wish I had that because it
does like work really well for like a week. But anyway,
welcome to the Old Person's podcast. But I talk about
it a lot, I'm sure ever on the road, I
know they get sick of me talking about it because
it's just like see.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I talk about it to my show all the time.
Get over.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
It's like I said, to know me used to be
like to know how much love country music or a
drive around my truck, or to fly with me or
be on my bus. But really to know me now
just it's like how much I value like sleep. It
is the greatest thing.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
And when I.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Do get off the road, it's like the number one
priority is like let's just let's get it and I
will get back when.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
I mean, we'll see once I get back into a routine.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Here, let's take a quick pause for a message from
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Speaker 2 (23:18):
We did a bit this morning.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
We were talking about what's a rich life, not meaning
rich with just money, but like one are the three things?
And one of the three things that I said was
sleeping through the night. That literally was one absolutely because
I don't do it, and you until you like.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
How'd you sleep last night? And we don only sleep
in the same room right now anymore. We've moved beyond that.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Week the first time I get that too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
So I've been thinking about this for years. She moves
the tiniest bit before saying, we get in bed together, right.
I'm just even thinking about where the position I have
three pillows have to be positions exactly the correct way.
I'm just thinking about the process of getting to fall asleep,
and all of a sudden she will.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Jerk like you got to be kidding me, You're already out.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
She's already sleeping like that, and so she'll movey bit.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
I feel it.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
So years ago I decided to separate church and state,
and I got rid of our bed, and I've got
two platform beds and two box springs and two mattresses
and monsters.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, and then two have my own debt. She is
her debate.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
There's a clear line, you can see the floor between
her bed and mind. So it's like independent suspension. Why
would you have a truck with lee springs when you
can have you know, independent suspension, So she can move
around all she wants. And yeah, if you feel like
you can bleing the extra sleep, you can kind of push.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Her bed a little further over.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
But here lately she's like, because I'm just such an animal,
it's terrible. She's like, she's sleeping the couch now, She's like,
there's next room we have and she just goes sleeping there.
And even last night we're like, we've got to get
this back on track. When I get off the road,
We've got to get back to the stanmerroom. We just
we've never had a TV in our bedroom. Just put
one in, Like we're I have my dad's old recliner
over there that my mom didn't want. So it's it's

(24:50):
a nice health and wellness set up with got going on.
So I'm gonna try to move her back in this year.
It's a big plan.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
A good luck, good luck to you two kids. I
like trying to make it work. I we went to Germany.
We were in a hotel room. You can't do that
one bed. Well.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
But here's the great thing that I learned. They have
something called Scandinavian comfort or something like that.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Well, that Scandinavian study shows that thirty percent every time
you move the that this ruptures sleep by thirty percent.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I don't ever read that. But you have to have
your own comforter, and that is what we learned. So
that is what we have now.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Gotta have your own comfort. Person turns over in a
wake shopping, you're like, what the hell? Yep, And they
also over there don't do king sized beds. We're the
only country does a king sized bed. Everywhere else does
two twins pushed together with a little thing down the
middle to make it seem like a king But it's
always two mattresses. No, we're the only people that think
this is a great idea to have like one big
bed to sleep in.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Oh, I know that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Travelers make kind of fun for me, though I grew
up in Arkansas, so I didn't travel any but now
like in the past, I don't know, seven years or so.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
I like to go places and see stuff. Yeah, it's
I do.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
I struggle sleeping there too because the times shift. But
I find though, if I have nothing that I can
commit to work wise, because the time zones are off,
it's a little easier on me.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Absolutely on sleep. Yeah, I fa I think we're just
over in Europe for some shows. My family came with us,
And what I love about being over there is the
time zone change, because it's like you can't do anything
about it. It's it's three o'clock in the morning over
back here, like you just okay. It's almost like being
on a different planet. You have zero connection to like
all that stuff that's back here. That's probably my favorite
thing about it. But I don't like the rooms where

(26:21):
one king bed, I get startcleing. Oh god, well, and
I try my wife using up on the She's the greatest.
I mean, she puts my sleep of everything else. She
will literally go sleep on the couch like in some
hotel room, so I can like try to get some sleep.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
I've had normal hours too, which affects it a bit. Yeah,
you do, waking up at three or four in the morning. Yeah, yeah, anyway,
how about that?

Speaker 1 (26:42):
There you go, look at just we've lost There's no
one listening by now, so we can really talk about
anything we want.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Everyone's just like, good God, I want to hear this conversation.
I go to Grandpa's house listen. Oh you know what
I wonder if I can, can I talk about so
we have I we don't get to see each other
that often, but I do like consider you a friend.
And if it's like you ever need a kidney or something,
i'd i'd give you one.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, okay, I would always get tested. Amazing, Yes, like
I like, I actually like and care about you.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
You have good hair, so if every need a little
transplant down there, I might ask for a little couple
of spots.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
It's still hanging in yet. Yeah yeah, I got good hair. Yeah,
mine grows way too fast.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Now mine's hot. It's still just the same same length.
It's just like not as uh Thomas Frtt has, like.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Oh yeah, you're good.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Well, I haven't watched it a long time to count.
The pool's long.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Actually, I swim at Centennial Sportsplex today.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
The swim thing going on. I used to swim, I
did track, I did a couple of eleve of trathlons. Yeah,
oh you did holf far much? How much? How us?

Speaker 3 (27:38):
What's the length of It's not an iron man though,
so when people iron man me, I'm like, you went, well,
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I'm not trying to compete.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
I think I looked up today because I just I'm
trying to swim, just because he's playing hockey, and like
my miles with some a little bit. But I think
four thousand yards is like a true triathlon distance, which
is like two miles. I did a thousand yards too.
I thought that was a prett damn hard and I
my phone, I think that's all a mile Olympic try.
Let me hold on, let me ask my what do you?

(28:06):
Let me ask my digital assistant. You got a digital assistant, dude,
I got the best digital assistant.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Hold on?

Speaker 3 (28:11):
How long do I swim? If I were to do
an Olympic trathlon?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
So in an.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Olympic triathlet the swim portion is one point five kilometers,
which is about zero point nine three miles. So basically
you're looking at swimming just under a mile.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
It's a nice chunk of the race. I have assistant too, Hey, sirih,
how many yards are in a mile? So a thou?

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Okay, so that's seventeen hundred yards. I only did a thousand.
I thought that was a lot. It's not apparently not
that many. But dude, a friend of mine in Alabama
just told me he listens to he makes his own podcasts.
Have you heard of this where you you ship everything
you want to have in there to curate it, and
then he has two voices kind of going back and
moderating it.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I mean, have you ever seen when they find out
they're not real? What? Who?

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
He doesn't he knows they're not real? No? No, no, no, no,
I'm saying yes, it's fascinating.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yes, one, because you can basically learn or hear about
what you want to hear about. Right, It's good learning tool.
You want to learn about rare minerals. So he created
a whole thing just learn about rare earth minerals.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I don't know. He's sounds like a wold guy.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Now, Ray Hicks, what's somebody they I've seen it where
they do this and they actually have them learn that
they're not real.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Oh wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
You want to get back to me talking about simulation
type stuff and you're hearing because you can make it.
You can have one person, you can have two pop yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
and it was a man and a woman.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, the voices. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
And part of that discovery and part of what they
wanted to hear was hear them discover they're not real
or not real.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Wow, hear this. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
We were informed by by the show's producers that we
were not human, we're not real, we're AI, artificial intelligence
this whole time. Everything, all our memories are families paid,
it's all, it's all been fabricated.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
I don't I don't understand.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
I know, mean either I tried. I tried calling my wife,
you know, after what happened the number, it wasn't even real.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
There was no one on the other end.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
This is gonna happen to us this literally if those
voices are so real, man, that sounds like some of
thems know that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
That's probably gonna happen one Yeah, yeah, I think about that.
Yeah all the time.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
My memory is so bad to begin with, so I
wouldn't have it would be a very easy walk back.
Like I don't remember much anyway, So yeah, I guess
my point.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
We have a very one of my very close friends
is also a friend in a friend of yours and
professional you guys worked together, and he was telling me
a story about she hates me. Oh yeah, and some
of the writers on that song.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, do you talk about that? Sure? Yeah? I mean,
you know, I love this song. It's fun.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
I don't I don't think it's like one of It's
not like my favorite song.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
On the record. We cannot talk about. No, I can
talk about no. It's you know, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Picking singles is so hard these days because you really
just get like one and you spend so much time
making an album.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I feel like this is my best record.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
And we didn't have to talk about the record, but
I just talk more about the bigger picture of like
make records in this town.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Make this record that you're so proud of.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Two years into it, it's like a Steven Wilson junior
on these tracks Night and Riley and John Anderson and
Miranda Lambert and just always it's a great body of work.
You lead with a song that it's me and Ashley
Gordon Lee and Ross Kopperman, I think Chase McGill. It's
a really fun song as a reflective of the album
at all as a whole. No, but it's it's a
fun track to get out there, and then you just

(31:25):
hope it moves quick enough that you can actually get
to like more like a real song. It's like, oh,
time's up, man, we need to start working on the
next project. You're like, I just put two years in
that project, and there's so much stuff I want to
get to and that compliments this song. You put this
song out first, and you kind of back it up
with these other songs, and you give your fans who
don't maybe listen to the record, but you know they're
listening to so much music. They only take so much in,

(31:47):
like at least they've heard three songs. They are like
a cliff notes version of the bigger record in general.
But when you only get to get the introduction, you
don't get to put more behind it. And I do
hope I get to put out some more singles. But
what was the question. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
No, it's a great song. It's a fun song.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
It's a fun writing those guys, and it came up
real quick and it's well, I think it's written to
the wall.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
It's really well written. But I do. Hope I get
some more songs that have a little more weight to them. Okay,
not really where I was going, but that's good to know.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Well, so, okay, and maybe you danced and we don't
have to dance here. No, no, I don't. I don't
the writing of the song. I like the song. No, okay,
you don't know what I'm asking. Okay, And I'm being
unfair by being delicate.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
What's the question. Did you just put the Puddle the
Led guys on the song?

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yes, yeah, which is great, which I didn't even think
when we were writing it.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
I don't. I didn't, of course, I know that song.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Nobody in the room goes, oh, this sounds like Puddle
and Mudd wrote the song obviously when somebody subconscious because
it has the same titles that song, and that title
doesn't mean it's and it's kind of off. That's that
one chord that's a little in that. I guess it
got brought to my attention. I went back to listen
to that song. Oh my gosh, I know the song,
and so yeah, I think Ashley Gorley Ross these guys,

(33:06):
but I like love about those guys.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
There's no ego.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
It's like, let's just put them on the song. Who cares,
you know, let's just call them up and put them
on the song.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
And they're they're into it.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
So but you know, again, call them up or did
they reach out and go like you guys jacked our song? No?

Speaker 1 (33:19):
No, we call them up and we're pro. We're we're
pro pro about it. Yeah, that's good, proactive about it.
But this this album is so then you think I
get you know, I overthink stuff to you.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
People think this record like has that element to it
or the album comes out in the puddle of mud
is associated with the record, which those guys are as
total studs. Maybe one day I will make a record
that's like you know, influence in that that that by
that genre of music. But this is like such a
different Everything else is so different. It's like Drunk on
a Plane on My Rise of record. The whole album
is about my my dad had passed away, my son

(33:51):
was born.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
There's all these songs around that.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
In this one song drunk on a Plane, which you
just can't leave off because it's just too good.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
It doesn't really fit in there, but hey, it hits
a hit.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
That song's kind of like this song on this album,
everything else kind of has this thing that there's this
song we wrote kind of in between songs, which I love.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
It's a fun one to play live. I just hope
we get to some other songs that maybe I didn't write.
There's so many great songs that Jesus Loves Me and
Off the Map and Standing the Sun was written by
the name of Kyle Sturrock by himself. I mean, what
a stud I hope we get to one of those
other songs. I never pushed my own stuff, but that

(34:27):
one ever just goes this would be a great first single,
and it was. But hopefully we get something else.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Did you not want it to be?

Speaker 3 (34:32):
By the way, it was like your biggest radio debut ever.
It came out hot. I think it's dead now.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Oh I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
I don't keep up with it with anything radio anymore.
So it came out that hot and it's dead now,
yeah a little bit.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Do you root for it today?

Speaker 1 (34:47):
I'm kind of like, if it's gonna take there twenty
weeks to get somewhere, let's just move on to the
next thing, you know. I don't not over do like
big on like the number one thing I'd like just
get I'd like to do one more song at least
off this record.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
You know who says they're not big on the number
one thing, somebody with twenty free number one, you know,
it's true, or twenty two or whatever the number is.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
It's a little yeah, it's uh, that's true.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
And I appreciative a number one, but I'm more I'm
just more like my whole thing. It's just the live show.
I mean, it's like when you got into your thing.
It's like that connection with the crowd. That's all I
care about. I don't care about the money at this point.
It's like someone who says that also has a pool
in their house. Okay, that only comes somebody asks me
as their own pool. Okay, But like I just I
love that connection with the crowd, and like, you know,

(35:24):
I just want another song that kind of gives me that,
like that, oh my gosh, that connection with the crowd.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
And so do you feel.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
And I this has nothing to do with you specifically,
but the environment of music in general, that you're less
relevant than ever before while doing as good a work
as you've ever done. And it has nothing to do
except with the environment of music. Now or just create
well or creative content in general. And I should answer
the question to tell you I do.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
I do. I'm not asking this about you, no, no, No,
it's a good question.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I love my spot where I am like in the format.
You know, there's so much great music going on, and
I think what you're about, what people have respect are like,
are championing the new people. That's the way it should be,
you know, like these new artists are coming up, like
when Lanny was coming up.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Or I think you're getting the question wrong again, I'm
not asking it right.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
So yeah, I'm less relevant for sure.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
No, I think you interpreted that in a negative way
when my understand it isn't even about music in general.
It's just about what is existing in the in the
creative space. Now there's so much everywhere all the time.
It's like fame, Like what even is fame? Because everybody's
a little bit famous if.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
They want to be.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
There aren't so true so many fam people that a
quote unquote famous. Now there's somebody to me like do
you know who?

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Exactly? And yet to me they're massive, right and there,
my son, they're massive. Yep. Do you take it?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
And that's my point with everybody is a little less
relevant now because so many people have relevance now.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
And I just wondered if you felt that at all.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, I mean I'm kind of happy less relevant I am,
for sure, And that's like that's the natural way, and
I'm I don't like hold on to it. I mean,
I've read this Arthur Brooks book called The Second.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Mountain, which I really subscribe to.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
It's like about, you know, you've had this first mountain
in your life that you've accomplished.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
You know, look a you've done. It's unbelievable. And I'm
the same way.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
That's one thing I really respect about you is like
just the hustle and the grind, Like that's exactly where
I got where I am. It's just it's just grinding,
hustling and climbing that mountain. Well, and then you look up,
but well there's you know, you don't want to spend
the rest of your life looking out the backs see.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
The windshield at your career going oh my god, they're.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Taking my spot and he's like, what's up ahead, what's
the next thing I'm trying to take on while not
leaving this behind. I love playing live music and I
still doing it the way I've always done it, But
you know, you start looking at other things in your
life and you're you're, so, yeah, definitely relevant, relevant, relevant
with your kids. I mean, I'm at that stage of
life with my kids where it's kind of sad because

(37:49):
I see the you know they're headed. We're still super
close as a family. We call ourselves the Crudes based
off that movie. We're very like on top of each
other and just do a lot of dumb stuff together.
My wife and I've never left them alone for more
than like twenty four hours. We don't go on trips.
We just we're all family all the time when I'm around.
But you know, it's like they have their things they're
doing now, and it's kind of hard. You have to

(38:10):
be like a you like the edge of a pool
or they they'll come by and hold on to you
when they need you, but when they push off, you're
just kind of going, oh yay, Like I just I'm
not needed as much. And that's probably true in everything
I do. But that's like not a bad thing. I mean,
it's well, it.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Wasn't meaning the relevance question I was. I wasn't meaning
that in our u R.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Okay, nobody was using my songs dying. That's not what
I meant at all. I meant because I there's so
much more. Yeah, there's so much more out there, and.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
I and you see it this like there's so much
music out there, Like it's these guys drop a album.
Everybody already knows every Now the younger, like a Zach
Top his audience is you know every song with the record,
because that's the only way they grew up was listening
to streams, whereas my fan base might be like, well,
you know, unless they're not that involved with a streaming aspect,

(38:59):
maybe you know as much as like a younger person is.
But for me, it's like, you know, I'm old school.
You heard that song on the radio, I'm gonna go
buy the album, I'm gonna listen to it. But really,
the songs on radio the ones I know the best,
you know, and those are the ones I'm gonna sing
it to the live show probably, And so I'm definitely
less relevant in the overall landscape, but.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
I don't know, still still like I'm not even saying
you're less relevant. I just asked if you felt if
there had any feeling on that you're not You're not
attaching me to saying that you are less of anything.
I'm just asking your general feeling about how media culture
has changed.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Jesus, I need a therapist. If you get two, it
really works out for you. Media cultures.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
It's I try to well, it's just I don't know,
I feel like, you know, you know, I've tried different things,
like a flip phone, and you're still doing that.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I still have one. I'm a what do you want now? Oh?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Now I'm on two iPhones, you know, so it's like
one step forward, three steps backwards.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
But it's like I just it's I feel my brain rotting.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
And I'm the generation that you know, didn't have a
cell phone for until I was like in my twenties.
I know what it was like before, and I know what
it's like now. And I have kids too, there, you know,
we're all addicted to it. So there's just a lot
of shit out there to watch. My son, you know,
he's he knows everything on YouTube. It's just you know,
like he'll he loves mountain biking too, and so, but
instead of just knowing what his buddies do around, you know,

(40:16):
what's the this guy can do a jump. He knows
the guys can do back flips and you know Whistler,
you know black Home. So he's going to try to
do it in his bike, Like buddy, it's not the
way it works. Like he just kind of kind of
close the preamp. You don't even know what everybody's doing
it every time because it's he lives. It's a YouTube
world that he lives in that I don't What's what's
your favorite.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
That I answer your question like enough to your satisfaction.
I didn't have.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
I didn't have satisfaction. I literally was. You're one of
those people who have the.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Prompt to the next thing.

Speaker 6 (40:42):
Yeah, the Bobby Cast will be right back. M this
is the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
What's your favorite book? Uh?

Speaker 1 (41:01):
I just read a great book marine one called Friends
right now. But the guy that wrote the book of
ov this is gonna be a great book. But the
last book I just read this is how bad my
memory is. I just gave my wife.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
But here's the hard thing about books, now, text Cast,
what's that book I just finished that I gave to you?
Is that because I read so many books on my iPad,
I forget the names of them because there's no cover. Yeah,
the cover is like seven hundred swipes away. Yeah, and
you forget the.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Name of it.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
You know the guy I wrote Gentlemen Moscow, I don't
amos totally. He just wrote, have a bunch of short stories,
which I normally want to It's not really my thing.
He's such a good author, Gentleman Mosque. I wrote Civility.
He wrote The White Demon that's about like the Chicago
mass murderer during the Chicago's World Fair. But this last

(41:54):
book I read, she'll pass it on me. He's really good.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
It had been so easy to be a massive murderer
back before. Yeah, the phone, and tell.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Me some books you read, because I probably read them,
or probably there's a chance I read him dang more
in Peace.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I finished that yesterday.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Tell me the books you read. That might be the
hardest anybody has ever come with me without intention.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
You want me get the greatest flex of all time.
And he'll probably appreciate the stories. I don't know if
it's trueor not, but so if you did it on purpose.
Tim McGraw, we were also talking about books one time together.
I don't know where it was. And he goes mall
let me send you some books. A big reader. I
swear to God, he sent me a cardboard box full
of books.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Every book was this thick, but it was like Russian.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
It wasn't written in Russian, but a book about Russian
painter in this book about Eastern flaw.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
It was like this. I wish I had the little
collection because it was you know, McGraw.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
You can't tell is he pulling a prank arm me
or he could be totally serious because he's a one
uper for sure, you know he's that's he. You know McGraw,
he's not gonna he's gonna want to you know you
got from the road. He'll flip that tire one more
time than you think competitive. He's so competitive. So I
still can't tell this day. I need to ask him
and he probably probably like, of course read those books.

(43:05):
But it was like this huge.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Selection of really thick history books that I'm just like,
this has to be a joke, but.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
I think the heart of Mike.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
We have to save that clip because someone's saying to me, hey,
what books have you read? I've probably read them as
the funniest, most aggressive.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Uh, you already marked that down as it's the best
I ever because I like to read.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
But well, I'm just saying we're probably reading some of
the same books as I was trying to say.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
You ever read in the Realm of Hunger Ghosts? I
have not.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
No, I didn't think you would have thought that one
out there of really cool read books.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
I just pulled up my list and my wife just
wrote me back here.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yes, jee us champetee. She's writing me back right now
about the books I've read here.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
So well, okay, I'm kidd I'm kidding. If I were
to do my favorite book, it's different from I think.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Ulysses was a great read. I read that pretty quick.
You didn't read that pretty and the sound and fury
was fuckinger re fucker.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
He's awesome. And the thing is, and you you've given me.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
You gave me like the Tools that I read, the
whole book, the Tools book, the one hundred and oh yeah, yeah,
you gave that as a gift me.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Probably don't remember. I do remember. I think mcgrawl gave
it to you and just pass it on to me.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
No, No, I read that book back when I was into
some more of the lifestyle optimization stuff. Now that yeah,
I can't stand but I there was a period I
was all about that.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
That's a great utility book. Peter Tia and the whole
Outlive and all that stuff. I get into that stuff
for a little bit.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
I think Born Standing Up is my favorite book. It's
a Steve Martin book.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yes, I know the book. I haven't read it.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
I watched his comedy special though, the documentary did on Apple.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Do you ever see that?

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Yeah, it's great, I'm she did. Yeah, there's something you've seen.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
I've seen it. Yeah. Ever you ever you read much
stoicism type stuff?

Speaker 5 (44:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
My favorite quote is that everything in moderation except moderation,
including moderation by alec uh uh what's his name, Marcus Aurelius.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Yeah, yeah, Meditations. It's like one of the only books
I've read multiple times. Yeah, but I have to read
like the version that the now version, Yeah, because if
I try to read the original writing, I get lost.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
I don't even know what he's saying.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Sometimes, man search for meeting, yeah, Victor, Yeah, I love stoicism.
Yeah I do too, that's I Yeah, it's actually one
of my passwords was was.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Don't share it? It was?

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, but I always make passwords of stuff I'm trying
to manifest and I used a password out of there.
Just saying out there just kind of remind me of
that whole approach.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
But are you a manifestation guy? Oh? Yeah, do you
believe mania happened? Okay?

Speaker 3 (45:48):
I would like to hear this first. I would like
to know your theory on manifestation.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
And how it ends up happening. Uh.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Well, I was always doing something that I later found out.
Someone sent me a book by Joel ostein The Unfamiliar. Okay,
Joel's incredible. I love his the radio station and what Joel.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Joel ostein the Mega Yah. Yeah, he's just all about
his radio station. Well, I'm serious, he's a good radio station. Yeah,
you even listen to it.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
I have a problem with people who make millions and
millions of dollars Christ.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I get I get that. I actually there's a lot
of them around this part of this.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Yeah, and where we Maybe that's my mistile reaction was
that no, it's actually yeah, no, but he he he has. So.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
A Jewish friend of mine actually gave me that book,
and I remember being like, what do you give me this.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Book for this is a long time ago. This is
like this Christian dude, right, but read the book.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
One of things he said in that book, which I
really agreed with, is like, if you want something like
you gotta see every day, if you want to go
to Spain, get a postcard of Spain and put it
on your on your your refrigerator. Well this is I've
had a crazier story before in aviation. But I'll tell
you by my backhouse. I really want to leave Nashville
before COVID. I just I want to go back. I
want to be in Arizona of Colorado. It's back out
west where I'm fron I just missed, especially Colorado.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
It's really really wanted to be.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
And I had this backpack, old sack for laps sacked
and I hung up by the back door, and I
put a piece of duct tape on it. It said West,
and I had like a flannel shirt and there and
just shipping. I look at it every day, West West West,
and then we were This is kind of weird manifestation
because I want to say it's involved with like manifesting COVID.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
That's what it sounds like. It literally sounds like cod.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
I wasn't pretty good at but anyway, so we were
in Colorado when everything shut down. We ended up living
there for a year, which it had been my dream.
I mean, I was like, how am I going to
make How am I gonna move my whole family to Colorado?
And we ended up staying there. The kids went to
school there. But that's a different that's kind of a
weird one. But I will tell you one other story
about flying manifesting something that's really weird opening for Kenny Chesney.

(47:38):
It's me, Kenny and Keith Urban way back in the day,
and Kenny offers to fly me back home, and I'm like, yeah,
I love to fly home with you in a private plane.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Wow, it's amazing. So we went home.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
We flew home with him, the three of us in
this little private plane. We landed back in Nashville and
we pulled into was a different airport, not the big airport,
but a smaller, little building, right. I remember looking up
and the building said Signature which is a fixed base
operator for private jets. For anyone out there listening about
this random stuff. But I was like, this is so cool.
We don't go through the real airport. We're going through
the side thing, and I was like, wow, I want

(48:08):
that to be like I want this, I want to
do I want to travel this way. You know, this
is like two thousand and four. So I made that
my password on all my computers and devices. I signature
with some other stuff behind it. Long story short, like
two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine. My career
is totally like going off a cliff. I went out
there try to headline. I spent two years just getting
my butt kicked, you know, playing these arenas we'd alread booked.

(48:31):
I'm playing for like twenty five hundred people. You know,
I'm giving all I have every night, and every reporter
is like, you know, God bless us is hard. He's
singing like as a sold out show only to two
thousand people showed up. And that went on for a while,
and I was like, you know, but I'm still typing
that thing in there every day. And I'm playing a
gig one day for the halfway to Hazard. Guys are
doing a benefit up in Hazard, Kentucky for a Toado
tornado thing relief thing, and this little plane flies overhead

(48:55):
and they're like that's Tim McGraw, and I go there's
no way that's Timergraw. He's not flying in a propeller plane.
The guy's flying jets and like, no, he's learning to
get his pile's license. Apparently he came to the gig.
We started talking about the plane. It's this new plane
called a Serrus as a parachute built into the airframe,
but there's an accident. You pull the handle and the
whole plane comes down under a canopy. He's like, it's
the only plane that my wife Faith will let me

(49:17):
fly in introduced me as instructor. I started flying the
next day to gigs because you could fly. You know,
if you're going to play gig in Indiana, even though
it's only two hour drive, you're still going to live
at midnight in the bus to get there. You lose
a whole day of your kids, a whole night at home.
Now I'm flying a straight line. This little propeller plane
got totally hooked into it, and you know, I remember thinking, well,
it's never going to come true that the dream I had,

(49:39):
but this is pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
I'm getting more time at home. Long story short.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
One day, I've thown into Chicago midway in this little
plane and I was you know, using the bathroom, and
I looked next to me, there's a real pilot and
I'm like, oh.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
I guess a little pilot. Look at me.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
I'm a real pilot too, And I look up and
then there's a sign of the urinal TMI that says signature,
and it hit me like wow, Like it did happen
in a totally different way than I wanted it to,
which is why the universe works.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
I put it out there.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
I wanted to sit in the back of a jet
that never worked out, but it came back to me
the way where actually had to get my pilot's license,
my instrument rating, and I'm actually sitting up left seat,
you know, in the front of the plane.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
It might be a propeller plane.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
But I'm still like I'm doing it in a totally
better way than would have happened if I'd forced it
the other way. So that's one story. Pete Fisher was
my password forever on my computer, and I did become
a member of the Grand Opry, Like the Opry was
such a big part of my life, Like just I
could play the Opry stage, everything would happen. So I
was typing Pete Fisher who ran the opry back then.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
I just I don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
It might sound trivial, it's talking about it, but in
these how these things have happened. But I'm like, I
really leave like the power of putting it out there
and it will come.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Back to you.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Do you journal things I did that five minute. I
have a lot of those five minute gratitude journals within
a lot of those over the years.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
I used to think that's pretty hokey. I think I
just didn't understand why people were doing it. I find
myself doing it now as a way to cleanse myself
of all the negativity more so than just Hukuna matata.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
I think that's what I was. Well.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
I was just like, I don't want I'm gonna be
the person that's like, oh, everything's great. So I was
very anti that. But then I'm in a world of
everything is so negative around me all the time. If
I choose to let it get in comments, my life
is critique through ratings through So it was what can
I do to counter this a bit? So it wasn't

(51:34):
you know Timone and Pimba whatever their names are, what
are the names.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Mike, Timon and Pumba? Thank you MBA.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
I was, hey, I need to I need to meet this,
and so I started to go, I'm spending so much
time thinking only bad things is turning me into a
negative person. I need to remind myself of things that
are the opposite, and that has that has put me
back at a pretty neutral place, which I can appreciate.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
And that's why I do it. I mean, I don't
do it right now anymore.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
I did more back when I was kind of more
into like some of the stuff I was trying out.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
I've always tried different things in the past, you know.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I quit drinking for two years, and then I added
a thirty year of no beer, and then I.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Then I started a whiskey, you know.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
I mean, like I did vegan for a year and
a half, and then I just thought I was only
gonna eat animals that I killed, and I went and
killed an milk and lived out that.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I just I'm always trying different things. I tried the
journal thing. I have actually a few stack of them,
and I always thought i'd go back and read them.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
You never do.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
You write it and forget it, but it did help you,
Like what are you great? The five minute journal for
anyone is interested. It's very simple as one page, and
it has like what do I want to do today?
What am I grateful for? And then the end of
the day you write down like three things that happened
today and closing thoughts, and it's just a place to
kind of like set some intentions for the following day
or have an attitude of gratitude for the days around you.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
And it's it definitely is helpful for me.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
All that felt so lame to me, though, Yeah, it
is kind of on the start. I know I have
found purpose for it now, but I think the way
it was positioned to me, who's so cynical, I'm so
cynical about everything. Yeah, that I was like, this is
not for me. I had to find the reason that
it exists for me, which is I got to meet
all the negativity with something or I'm gonna if that's
going to consume me, Yeah, just be the.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Nature of what I do every day. I can't imagine. No,
you're so out there.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
It's you don't have the luxury of kind of like
tuning away from all that stuff, so I don't.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
I can't take my glasses off and nobody recognizes me.
They do or don't. I don't. Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
I tell my glasses off, nobody knows, nobody will come
up to me or know who I am.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Well, it's amazing. Yeah, that's they have that I go.
I can go anywhere without being You can't. Oh, absolutely,
you have your but you I travel nobody.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
I don't. I don't travel with anybody. I travel by myself.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
I can if I want to, if I need an
ego stoke, I can go into home Depot or Walmart
and see my folks. But like, I'm not gonna like
maybe bed back beyond if there's time.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
I don't. I don't know if there's time, but there's
always time for back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
But uh, you know, I travel mostly through anywhere, just
completely under rad arts because I haven'ten a lot of TV,
and I just I mean, I'm going a pretty good spot.
I think you're playing a little humble I know you,
but no, I mean, and I can sense it sometimes. Yeah,
there's a way to move through certain situations where you
just keep moving. But I can I can tell when
someone's like I can telling some behind me, you know,
looking or assuming where it's going on. But just because

(54:18):
you've gotten so good at reading a room doing what
we do, but I don't. I don't really that's a
pretty sweet spot to them. And I always ask people
like opportunities are coming my way. I'm like, is this
going to like some more tickets? There's this is the
thing that I have to do because everyone's doing it
because I like even podcasts, I do so few of
them because I feel like, now and someone does a podcast,
there they'll I love long form interview like this. And

(54:39):
last time I did this was Dak Shephard for Armchair Quarterback.
The problem with that one was it was a live show.
It was horrible because I love him, but it's like,
now I'm trying to entertain.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
I'm playing the crowd, so I can't.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
So I'm like, it's entertaining instead of But a lot
of the new people doing this, and I've had a
lot of friends that are starting and I'm and I'm
so supportive of them doing it, but I find that
they're going to take this, cut it up in like
five second snippets and just hit it on Instagram over
and over and over. It's like click click, click click,
trying to get those Instagram numbers up. And that's not really,

(55:09):
the whole point of the podcast is supposed to be
like a long term.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Long form interview.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
We just say stuff you normally wouldn't say, and people
have to listen to the whole thing to hear it,
unless they go on your radio show.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
I guess this is all gonna be cut up in
the best.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Partner Snip snip, I'll snip for you, I'll do at you. No,
we're definitely snipping that. Hey, if it's a book you're read.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
All right, let's take a quick pause for a message
from our sponsor.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
And we're back on the Bobby Cast. I have a
couple other questions.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
I was reading a bit about the Broken Branches Fund,
and I bring it up now. We've talked a little
bit about mental health here, just us not even going
right at it, but I think that's a big part
of both of our lives, either we're trying to handle
our own or talk about our past experiences with it.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
What is that? What's Broken Branches Fund? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Oh, just we're taking some money from the tour and
we're it's a multi year deal where our friend uh
Tatum over at the Music Music Health Alliance here in
Nashville that we help we're been without from the very beginning.
It's going to help people in the community that are
having struggling with mental health, certainly touring professionals, but also
just people back here in town. And it's a cool thing.

(56:20):
I don't kind of fit into the idea that that
song broken branches. You know, the hook is broken branches
off the family tree. Everyone in Nashville is a little
bit of a broken branch. We all came in from
somewhere else and we're you know, we don't we kind
of create, make our own family, make our own tree here.
So it tied in well, of course Mary Mary Hilliard
was behind it. She's got a brain like that, think
of it. But it's something I was excited to launch

(56:42):
with her, and it's good, you know, I I am
able to. I'm just of a different generation. I see
what my kids are going through. I see people in
the road are going through. I see what artists are
going through. They speak out about it all the time,
you know, the content creating, having to look at the comments,
having to play that game. I can't imagine the little
toll that would take. It's exhausting, you know. It's like

(57:02):
in growing up in that environment I know a lot
of them love it. I try to think of like
Alan Jackson if he were starting off today, him doing
all this like tic tacking as I call it, just
to bother my kids and stuff, they'd be like, he
probably loses mind too, Like what are you talking about?
I just want to see country music and like look
cool on stage. But so I definitely get it where
they're coming from it. And it's hard. I mean it's

(57:23):
just hard. It's hard in every field. This is our field,
this is music, so we're trying to take care of ourselves.
But every I mean, what people can do for work,
I mean it's all you look, it's happening in music now.
That's sony or soony app where you can just talk
your words into your phone and it creates a it
make this kind of sound like an old school Morgan
Wallen track, and boom, it's like it's there. There goes

(57:44):
the studio, the producers, the assistant, the intern the band.
I mean just just wiped out a whole segment of
like you know, the song demo industry has just gone
all of a sudden, it's happening and everywhere, so the
pressure and I feel out my record some part of
the point, like whant to get other singles out is
like people are so exciting and cut one of their songs,
and I feel like I get some of the best

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songs just because maybe I've been doing this for a
long time. So you want those guys that get those
songs get a chance to see the light of day
to support them as well, because it's just it's harder
than it's ever been to be a songwriter in this town,
for sure.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Two questions left, Oh, what's your favorite? Well, I've done
an hour, bet Landey got more.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
It's a great I could look. What's your favorite?

Speaker 3 (58:30):
We'll call it old like hit to play where you
have a renewed love for it.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
This year on the road, we were doing a song
called so So Long and another one called Domestic Light
and Cold. I was listening to his Zac's Zach gave
me his second album to kind of listen to because
I had asked some questions about it, and I went
to listen to it. I was like, I need to
go back to listen to my second record, Modern Day Drifter,
just to see like what that record was like when
I was in the same kind of throwes of where
you know where you are and you're on that second

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album stuff, and I was like, oh my gosh, new song.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
I just there.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
They were so good and so domestic, Latin colds, a
shuffle about beer and uh so so long. It was
just a kind of a kiss off song. So we
threw those back in the sellis a little bit.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
You know, I still old school songs that were like
on the radio.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Yeah, like big hits where you might have gotten tired
of my songs.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
I mean I never get tired of five one five oh?
Or was I thinking I still have always? I think
it's still a huge song. I mean, I hold on.
It's just like a I've always had a you know,
I always come a little closer. That's an old hit.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
That song you're not giving me an I'm trying to
go old school. No, I know, I hear you, but
and all those are perfect songs. But you're just saying
every song come a little closer. We played that this year.
I hadn't played that.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Now you're giving me.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Now you're giving me no, Well, you've been getting me
tones this whole damn time.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
None of my answers are acceptable. That's not true. That
I said, what's a song? And then you gave me five.
Oh my gosh, being created here. I walk out the
door in my mid I need the broken branches fun
for me at this point.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Yeah, come a little closer. I haven't played in a while.
We did this year for the first time about ten years.
It felt great.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
That's awesome. Thank you. I enjoyed this. Thanks, thank you.
That's cool. It was a fun hour for funny. Yeah,
it was. I'm glad it was for one of us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I feel like I'm many and it was my hands
sore from the ruler, like the look kept smashing my
wrong answer, you were smashing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
I was just accepting it. That's all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
I get to go back and hear the sound bites
and all the stuff. I regret saying, so.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
We should only do sound bites on this. We don't
put it out now at all. Full for him, it's
only in sound.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Bites, right, that would be good. I can't wait for
I can't wait for that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
You still got some shows left on this tour? Huh? Yeah?
I got three of them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Were we have this week and the week up to
New York and do that whole three more up there,
and then that's that's it. Yeah, six more shows and
that's been fun.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
It's been good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yeah, you're sadly behind. It's been a really good tour,
really fun. It's fun going out there. You know, the
band before you was just like young and they're just
they're in that thing. You get to see him do
what they're doing and you know they're geting ready to
blast off. So that's been probably the highlight of the
tour of me. He's just seen those guys all.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Right there, he is your friend of mine, America's sweetheart.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Hey, Derek's take that. Yeah, sweet dreams to everyone out there.
Speaking of sweets, we all sleep well. I do sleep
this in the daytime. Oh really, your napper?

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Nope, I don't have time to take naps.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
But if I ever have time to take yumps, I
can sleep hard in the day because I don't feel
like someone's gonna come up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
And I'm not joking. Well, that's why you guys sleep
in separate rooms. Okay, there is family everybody. Thanks for
listening to a Bobby Cast production.