#563: Bobby, Eddie and Matt Stell on Top 3 Albums That Changed Their Life + Matt Shares Breaking News in His Personal Life + Greatest Lead Singers & Debut Albums of All-Time

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, we're here with Matt Stowe and producer Ready,
And so I said, you guys some questions last night.
We're gonna do kind of an in house music discussion.
We're gonna start with the top three albums that changed
your life, So not the greatest of all time. And also,
don't pander either one of you. Pander to who, to

(00:29):
the artists, to you, no, not to me, to just
people like say cool things that you sound cool. But okay,
but what if we sound cool, That's fine. It's the
only time I'm gonna say that. I just don't want
you guys like holler not cool things that we don't
really know. Okay, I see it like Tchaikovski and B Major.

(00:57):
So as long as that's been stated up front, gotcha.
I'll go first. Then top three albums that change my
life I have and one of them I have actually
as a vinyl on the shelf behind us. I have
Beastie Boys License to Ill. Because to me, that was
three white dudes. They're Jewish dudes, but I didn't know
the differences.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
From Arkansas white dudes.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, and they're rapping, and I was like, that's crazy,
because yeah, how I grew up, you didn't get to
be a rapper if you're white, and so it was like,
that's crazy, they can do that, and it was kind
of funny, you know, a little absurd. So Beastie Boys
License to Ill comes in on my list at number

(01:38):
one or I don't think I ranked them.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I just have my top three.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I also have Adam Sandler. They're all going to laugh
at you. Dude, that is so good.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
And yes it had at a medium pace, which there
was a song about.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Dude, is that the one with with I mean he
had a couple, right, Was that the one with a
goat on the goats get?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
And uh, I don't know if that's the goat one.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I think the goat one was the the heck yeah
or the h word one, but yes, the goat one
was was definitely that's it.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
That's the one.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, but you can say it. I just okay, for
sake of my streak.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Put out what the hell Happened to Me?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Record?

Speaker 3 (02:21):
That was?

Speaker 4 (02:21):
That was a seminal record.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Uh the are they all going to laugh? When you
came out first? Changed my life?

Speaker 3 (02:29):
And I didn't have any rules growing up on music.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
I don't have any rules periods, So it wasn't like
I had to hide the music I was listening to.
But I had my neighbor's scotty bootleg recorded from his
dual tape deck and record me a version on a
blank tape. And I listened to that thing front and backward.
And you know, that to me was so funny that
you can make comedy music.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I think that's that's the real thing. Did you I
don't know you're younger than us, but did you ever
do that like tape dubbed a dub tape?

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Uh? I'm sure maybe I did. I remember my sister
having a bunch of tape.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Year older sister.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Okay, also, that's not not twenty two, I get it.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
But I mean, dude, that was a thing for us.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
You ever heard of Napster?

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah? So was the Den computer It heard a Napster? Yeah? Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
And I have as my final album that changed my
life for a reason because I didn't pick my favorite
artist in this I picked like records that I heard
that actually changed like for some reason that I viewed music.
I picked the Diamond Rio Diamond Rio album. Yeah, that's
good because that was the first concert ever went to
I had listened to that so many times over and
over again because it didn't meet in the middle obviously,

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but it had normal.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Genie riders going O me.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I listened to it so much, and the one I
saw them as my first concert at Magic Springs, I
was like, Oh, these are real people, like you can
actually see the people that you listened to in real life.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
That's my that's mine opening.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
So the fact that I listened to it all the time
and then got to see them laugh for my first concert,
I put the Diamond Rio self titled album in my
top three. One of the crazy things about Diamond Rio
is how high they sing. Just generally speaking, it's.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Wild man them and Tim McGraw.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
You don't realize until you try to sing one of
their songs back or they sing in front of you,
how high they sing and how hard it is.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
I wouldn't have thought that about Tim mcgrawl. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Have we met Diamond REO. I have met them. Yeah,
that's cool.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I was in California once. I did a video with
Blake Shelton and I was there while.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
He was doing it.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I think it was California, I'm pretty sure it was,
and they were there shooting the video with him.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Oh that's cool.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
And so all the guys like knew me from the show,
and I knew them from Magic Springs, Like there were
Magic Springs, I was there, but we haven't done anything
with them like here. And also they may have had
some lead singer changes too, okay, like I think I don't.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I'm also did the Lone Star. There's a lot of
overlap in my mind beturing the two.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, and then then you throw the Shenandoah and there
Shanando preebody problem were they.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Shannandoah Little Texas Diamond reel for me was like kind
of like he said, mart he row is still the guy, okay.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
There, and they're all we've had him on the Bobbycast.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
My Bad, Bones Bones, My Bad episode like that one
time that would by Shelton.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
I thought that we just like talked in like real life.
That's how real this podcast is. It feels like real life.
Oh that's crazy, I remember that now. Yeah, Marti Roe,
lead singer of Diamond Reye.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
So just the just the lead singer came into the Bobbycast.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh they they got they
got their name from Shannon.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Dooah ivon Real got their name from Shannon.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I remember that kind of being a story of like
they got their name.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I don't remember, but that's a cool podcast Episode four,
Episode four twenty two.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, Mike, do you remember that.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Part of it?

Speaker 3 (05:42):
How do they get their name?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Maybe I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Okay, anyway, those are my three albums. Let's go over
to Matt Stell.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, all right, my three albums, which you know when
you said that comedy album that got me to think
of man, I had that running with Scissors weird al
record that I wore. That was one of the first
record was one of the first CDs I ever bought,
So I mean honorable mentions.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, I don't know we were doing that.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
I didn't know either until you mentioned Adam saying like
a comedy record. I was like, oh, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Took for you before you go one. Your cup dumped over? No, No,
it didn't dump.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
You have a lid on it.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Oh no, we have.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
We have a disaster, Matt.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
It's only it's only water, right, Yeah, it's just water.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
That was Let's sit in some hot coffee beans for
a few minutes. Yeah, brand new ru oh man, Well,
I'll autograph that what's up with this mic stand? That's
worse than the than the when you hit it.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
You broke it as your cup poured over you then
hit the mic stand and broke.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
The Get a comedy records over here. This is one.
This is one. I'm just gonna hold this thing, all right,
he does axl roads all right.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
What I what I was going to say is your
eyes look very sleepy. We're recording this at ten in
the morning. What time do you normally wake up as
a singer songwriter?

Speaker 4 (07:01):
I get up in the nine o'clock hour.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
So this is a little earlier for you.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
This set my day a little bit ahead. I keep
I keep late hours for typically.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I would keep light hours too.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Oh yeah, Sam, Yeah, I think it's gonna work with
with the baby coming, because I get the.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Said I did not know that.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Oh yeah, well my wife's pregnant. Great, dude, have you
said that?

Speaker 1 (07:24):
No, this will come out till next week's now now
we can either cut it out.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Dude, breaking news.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
So he doesn't care. He's just saying it to congratulation.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Thank you, thank you. I'm pumped about it.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Like our whole group's pregnant. That's doctor Jose's pregnant.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Well, yeah, yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Matt's pregnant. I'm pregnant.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Pregnant, your wife's pregnant.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, we have another friend it's pregnant too.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Slip on. To have a little squad rolling around.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
They're all going to be the same age, which is crazy.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Thank god, I'll have other dads that I know already.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Dude, that is huge. That's huge because like me, I'm
an older dad with because I have younger kids. So
when I go to this school, like their dads are
way younger than I, I am so to have dad's
your own age.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Key, how are you feeling about that.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
About the whole situation? Uh, man, I'm really excited about it.
I know. That's like there's nothing interesting I can say about. Like,
I'm very excited to be having a child. We found
out as a boy. We're gonna name it. We don't
know what the first.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Saying all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Like, I'm just not like it's not about.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
You though, because I think I would fine with it too.
Is she okay with it?

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Well? I mean I guess as I should probably get
I should probably get clearance all shoul I don't think
she would mind Uh, maybe she would. I don't think
she would, but like, I don't know, man, I'm pumped
at got I got a boy child coming, and uh,
I'm really hoping that the do date is like at
the end of May, but I'm hoping it last to

(08:48):
June because I want to make it like the oldest
kid in his class for sports. But then it's gonna
be because a AAU cutoffs are where they are. It's
gonna be the young in AU. So it's gonna get
the benefits of playing up in AAU, but then get
to come back and hopefully be a monster at you know,
high school level. But I'm already projecting my hopes and

(09:11):
dreams on on said child. So anyway, yeah, buddy, thank you. Likewise,
thank you. I'll be I'll be texting you a lot
to figure out that.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Oh I have, I have advice done it a few times.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, yeah, you have, and you're good at it.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I don't think anyone ever feels like they're good at it.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I'm pretty good at already.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Great dad, that's how people talk. That's like what your
business card was saying.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Good, Okay, how man, how much stuff do you have none?

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Dude, I don't even have. Like she hasn't started buying
like stuff. I'm sure like Christmas will get like, you know,
a crib and stuff. I'm probably gonna get less provy
ones this.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Year, less golf balls, more more baby clothes.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah, exactly, more like packing plays and stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
I don't even know what to say baby clothes, Like
what do you call thing you put on?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
A baby ones? I want little ones? Okay, Yeah, my.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Baby's gonna be so big it's gonna need achoosie.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
It's gonna come out four foot long.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I hope all your plans.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
I hope it looks just as like a Marvel character
coming out anyway.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, yeah, Do you want to do albums?

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah, let's do albums because I don't know what we
could use this. I got all right, so my top
three albums number one, not number one like you said,
just top three. Uh Jagged Little Pill, uh that last
more set record. Uh. I remember when One Hand in
My Pocket came on the radio the first time I
was in Uh. I was in Brandonton, Florida. We're actually

(10:34):
headed to the to the skating rink, and I remember
I remember in my mom's coroll I remember that car
or that song coming on and like, what is this?
And then I got that whole record, and that whole
record was up and down smashes one after the other.
She was like twenty one when she wrote it. There's
an awesome documentary about.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
We watched it.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
It's one of those really good Bill Simmons documentaries.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yeah, it's a music box one. Yeah. Man, he crushes
it on those.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
He's doing a count of cruss one.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah. I saw that. I did came up on my
algorithm that. Uh, I've seen most of those, I think.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
But the ones on the festivals are good. Oh really
all the woch Dock Yeah, oh he did those.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Oh those are really good.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
I sent it to Eddie or do you send it
to me?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
No, you sent to me.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I sent it to Eddie and I said, hey, kind
of ces documented because we're both massive Counting Crows fans.
And I sent it to my wife and I said, hey,
I got some depressed to watch. And she's so anti
Counting Crows. She responded, I won't even watch the TikTok.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
How how can you I can understand, being like, yeah,
Counting Crow is not my favorite? How can you be
anti Counting Crow.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
She thinks it's just middle aged man whining.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
You know, in middle age at the time.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
It's funny though, because my wife, she was a huge
Counting Crows fan growing up. But the older she got,
she's like, I can't take it anymore.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
To quote her, it's better.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I love the whiny.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
I just came up. That's the same. Like like alternative
music like cool to me is like anti you know,
so like whatever, somebody's like, yeah, I always love that
for sure.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Jack a Little Pill album track one was all I
Really Want, Oh I really want.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I was a jam hand in my pocket. Yep, you learn,
you live, you learn, Head over feet.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
All four of those were huge smash singles and.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Then Ironic and you ought to know six six number
one song at a time when that didn't happen.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
No, that that record was so big and and but
I didn't even I mean I just loved it, you know,
and it did something for me. It's scratched, and it's
like it's still if you go listen to it now,
it still sounds cool. Man. You know, she has a
unique voice. She was writing from a this perspective and
she I don't know it was just a great record.
I mean there's documentaries made about it, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
And that video is a bit of what launched that
song in that she kind of hit her face for
the video, which made it a bit mysterious.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
How does she do that?

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Like her hair?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oh yeah, face.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
It was very much and it was kind of shot
in a weird tone, and it was alternative. Now they
play that stuff on hot Ac. That whole record is
hot ac, but that was alternative back in the day.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Especially.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
You ought to know because you know, one of the
lines is you know what she go down on you
in the theater? And the whole was what the stations
block out part of the song and some of them
would it would be like would she go you in
at theater? And some of them would play the whole thing.
So yeah, Lanas is still awesome.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
It also had a huge f bomb at the end
of that song. And that record did not have a
parental advisory stick really no, I don't know why that
is the case, but correct me if I'm wrong, but
that that Jagged Little Pill record did not have a
parental advisory on it. I guess there's a number of
you get so many.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, you got like two curse words.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Yeah, she kept it right below and below the threshold.
But it's like it's like the Chris Nolan Batman's you
know they kind of fuel rated are but then you
know they're PG thirteen.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Is that vibe she was doing and may still be
doing a residence in Vegas? And I told my wife
I was watching videos of her now doing and I
was like, man, I really want to go to this
was like good.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Luck to you.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Fun. She still sounds like yeah, I mean, judging from
like performances of Sleep records, she still sounds awesome.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Even her later stuff like Uninvited when you say sounds
cool because that invitea wasn't on this record, but like.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Some like this, it was so distinct.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah, it was so like tense. It was so it
was so cool.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
All right, what else you got?

Speaker 4 (14:23):
The next record for me was Drive By Truckers Dirty South.
I really came into the Drive by Truckers. They were
before my time a little bit, but they were still
making music. Dirty South was the second record that with
Jasonisbull was in the band, and uh so like I'm
cherry picking a little bit because I was like I
didn't get that music. I didn't get The Truckers as

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one album. I got it as oh, they're on their
fifth album, and so then I went back. But that
was the one that opened had outfit on it and
never gonna change. And man, I I up until that point,
like I had been a little intimidated about about like
singer songwritery music because I didn't like, I didn't understand

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what Paul Simon and Bob Dylan were talking about most
of the time, like I kind of didn't get it,
to be honest with you. And then when I first
heard some of the stuff in like Dirty South, which
it's like this sort of like punk version of Leonard
Skinner was kind of with but the lyric is so good.

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But they were just painting with colors that I knew,
and they were talking, they talked about life in a
place that I understood, and like it made me connect
with music in a way that I hadn't since then.
So the Drive By Truckers and then that record Dirty
South that when isbel was in the band at twenty one,
and just like Ripping was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I have no reference point with Drive By Truckers. I
don't either, was I never listened to them. I never
listened to Isbel until he was already established as Jason
Isbel Like I'm not even cool in that way. But
what I know about Isbel now is that he writes
all the stuff by himself. Do you know if he
wrote the drive by Trucker stuff by himself?

Speaker 4 (16:06):
So he the way that that I mean, I couldn't
from what I understand. So if there's you know whatever,
cricked me if I'm wrong in the comments, chat uh,
but it's that band. Was you write it, you sing it?

Speaker 1 (16:20):
So so there are multiple singers in the band, yeah,
yeahs type yes, except that.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
You know, the singing was not their forte. Their forte
was the the vibe, the esthetic, and the lyric really
did a lot of the lifting. But I think when
Isbel was right, like Gisbel wrote Outfit, I'm pretty sure
that those songs were you know, he's largely writing to himself.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
And you ever met him?

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah, yeah, what do you think? He So at one
point I was trying to do a record with him
with the band that I was in at the time,
and my band was terrible and the record didn't come out.
But I did spend like a week with him in
muscle shows and what do you mean with him he
was gonna produce it, Yeah, in the studio with.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
That's amazing, Like what you just said right there is amazing.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
He spent a week with Jason this ball and.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
This was like this was before the sixties.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
He's sounds like it's crazy, dude.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
John Fogerty was in the other room making coffee. It
is great. No, we went to muscle shows to try
to make a record with my band at the time,
and like we were just didn't what didn't work out?
But but anyway, I spent a week there with him,
and I've seen him since then a few times, like
it read at shows or like it's like a couple

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of times and he's remembered me every time, like because
there was years been in between that he's always got something.
He's always been cool to me. And I will say
that that you know, I've I've been around like a
lot of interesting people, but he might be. He is
one of the smartest people I've ever been in a
room with. I mean, it's just that's just the case.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I find.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
They tried to glaze too hard because he's about to
his name is about to get said. Some more on
this list, but.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Oh oh here, yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
I find that.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
The more celebrated the artists for their artistry, the weirder
they are. Just generally speaking, I don't think every artist
that's at the highest point and celebrated by other artists
is the weirdest. But for the most part that ven
diagram of being a weird person hard to kind of connect.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
On a human level.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
And you didn't say this about Jason at all, but
I would not have been surprised that you would if
you would have that usually crossover, like the more creative,
the more appreciated you are as an artist, the weirder
you are and hard to connect with as real life human.
It's almost like there's an ability to write and connect
through your work way better than you do as a human.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Well, I mean, yeah, there may be something to that.
And also if you're making interesting stuff a lot about
a lot of that comes from seeing the world in
a different way, so there could be some kind of
correlation there.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
I expected you to say he didn't talk much.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
No, he and like this was this was like pre
got sober isable too, so it wasn't and he wasn't
like sloppy around or anything like that. But like we
would go out afterwards and he was in. He was
like living in an apartment above a bar that we
hung out at all night and shot pool. He's created

(19:16):
that was?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
What was this thing? Drinking sober or like drunk sober?

Speaker 4 (19:20):
I think I think drinking mainly. I mean I hesitate
to sit here and talk like I do know him?

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Were a loaded question? Then ready, what did you see him?
Because he said it was before, you know, like before
he got sober.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
I don't. I don't know much about him, so I
don't know what BC.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
And a d on that is. Like the Southeastern record
was like the Got Sober record. Everything before that was
and like his his art didn't suffer at all from
getting sober or being messed up.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Mind did.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, when I got sober, things went downhill.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
I really enjoyed the version of me.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
It was just free.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
It's just unencumbered.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Matt, are you you're a lyric guy? Like? Are you
when you listen to music? Do you listen to lyrics first?

Speaker 4 (20:01):
To me, it kind of depends on what it is.
You know, like it like a lot of pop music,
you know, it's more melody forward, and if the lyric
does something cool, cool, but like my favorite music, which
I like to swim in those kind of Americana waters
a lot of times, or like the indie stuff, And
even with that Jagged Little Pills thing, the lyric is
very important to what's going on. And with the Truckers,

(20:23):
with with Isabel, with that kind of music, the lyric
is doing a lot of the lifting. And so yeah, yeah,
I think I think so I would probably be lyric
all right. Next album, Next album was I Don't Have
to Look. Next album, Storms Alive Randy Travis. I listened
to that record a thousand thousand times.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Why was it placed in front of you?

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yeah? I mean that record. I was like, that was
the first concert I ever went to. Was was Randy Travis?
I think he was, Uh, oh man, I'm going to
get this backwards. This is terrible. Randy Travis was opening
for how Alan Jackson or vice versa at the time.
It might have been Vice Versa at the time, and
I mean I was I was like, didn't even need

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a ticket. I was on my mom's lap. But I
remember going to that show and uh seeing that and
that record just happened to be sort of around you know,
and I got older and I was like, oh, a
bunch of those songs are are you know? Still on that?
And you know you kind of learn them in order
a little bit and.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Jams on that record on the other hand, that's the
first song there. Yeah, and then digging up Bones, though
I have memories of exactly where I was because my
grandma was a massive randy Travis Fair Uh.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
But tonight I've did and alone digging up Bones.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
What's cool is when you learn words from like, uh,
these records, like I'm thinking, uh, like in that one
in that song, he's like, I found some things in there,
like that pretty negligee I brought you to. I was like,
my almost a neglige. She was like it's underwear son
or I don't know what she said, but that'd be
fun if she did. Surday.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
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and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Eddie your top three, Top three, I'm gonna go with
let it be by the Beatles, And this takes me
back from being I mean, this is probably the first
I ever heard from music like at all, and it
was my mom. My mom was a big Beatles fan,
and she drove a car with an eight track player
in it to my school, Like that's how I would
drive to school, an Olds mobile with an eight track

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in it, and the eight track was let it Be.
And dude, I just loved She sang every word to
every song and I love that and it was almost
like she loves it so much that I love it
and I wanted to know more about it. And then
when I found out, I'll never forget to when I
found out that John Lennon was dead by the time
I was listening.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
To this, because he was dead when you were listening,
he was already dead.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
It blew my mind. I was like, this guy that
I've been singing this whole time, who's singing all these songs,
is dead and I didn't know that. That was just
mind blowing to me.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
From that album when I watched and I didn't watch
all of it. I couldn't take all of it, but
the Beatles and oh you don't watch the whole documentary.
I watched a lot of it.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
That's so good.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
I couldn't a lot of It's just like passive, it's
just on and you're I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
They're writing songs.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I mean, that's what documented that I watched, and maybe
it goes back to this.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
It was like eight hours long.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
It was so long, but I watched every minute of
that documentary and loved it.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
When they were like dicking around and Paul's writing get back, Yeah, yeah,
Juju was it and they write that and you see
him pick it up and write it because it's on
that record.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
It's on that record, and and h Ringo's like just
behind the drug. Ringo's the most whatever you want me
to do, mate, like I'm back here, like you know,
I'll be back here if you need me. And they're
writing that song and he goes, how about Jojo? Like
use the name Jojo? And they're like thanks, Ringo. So
it's like they're making it up as they go.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
But did he get credit for writing that song, for
writing on that song?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Mmm?

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
That's a good question, because in Nashville he'd got a
third for the good word, for the third even to
go Jojo.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
JoJo's a good name.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
You're now and it's not partly your song.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
That would be the name you what you couldn't name
it in Nashville because you have to give somebody the fourth.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
For that, So you change it? How about Bobo?

Speaker 4 (24:15):
All right?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, so the Beatles, let it be. I'm gonna have
to go Garth Brooks Offenses, dude, change change my life.
I mean it was, and I think I just kind
of missed the first album because I was just too young,
and I know that there were great songs on that,
but no fences with the thunder Rolls and Friends in
Low Places and all. Dude, that was.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Two of a kind of working on a full house
so good.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Two of a might have been the first album. It's
on nofens, it on offenses. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
The first album what I know from it was if
Tomorrow Never Comes? Okay, that was like this and again
I'm going for a memory.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
And the dance I believe.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
I just remember If tamal I Never Comes was the
great song I ever heard of my life.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
I became. I became a huge Garth Brooks fan, like
I was in the fan club. I asked Garth Brooks
merch for Christmas. Like that's how big of a Garth
Brooks fan I was. So when we first met Garth
Brooks and I don't know, dude, maybe he has someone
that tells him, you know, like this is Bobby and
Eddie of course, and he comes in and says, Eddie,

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nice to me. You have like, oh my gosh, Garth
knows who I am. He probably didn't know who I was,
but I will still remember that and I will believe
that he knows who I am.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Thunder rolls new way to Fly, to have a kind
of working on a full house. Friends in the Places,
unanswered prayers.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Wolves, wolves, past wolves.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
That's bugs on Pearl jamms vitology.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I mean, it's just kind of weird. Bug, just kind
of weird. Got Pearl Jam Vitology. Yeah, that's my last one,
Pearl Jam Vitology.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
And I'm being honest here that I'm a huge Pearl
Jam fan, but I didn't really catch on to Pearl
Jam when ten came out, or like the first albums
came out. I heard Better Man. Really, my brother was
listening to the stuff. He's older than me, and so
like I heard it. I heard him listen live and
even Flow and Jeremy, and I knew that existed. But
when I heard better Man for the first time, I'm like,

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who is this? Like this is so good that I
went to the record store and bought Bytology and listened
to that album over and over and over, and Dude,
I like Bugs, Like Bugs is awesome, bus weird. Bugs
is so weird. It's Eddie with an accordion.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Just thought it was a joke song.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I wanted to Adam Sandler once I heard that, Yeah,
because I thought it was Buggs with a joke song.
Wasn't even real song though, was it.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Dude. I think at that time Eddie was so mad
at just record labels and the business of music that
he was like, I'm just gonna put throw away tracks
on this album just because we owe them an album,
you know. So I think Bugs was kind of a
joke or kind of like a slap to the record
label whatever. But what's crazy about Vitology is they had

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never won a Grammy or never won really an award
until Bytology came out, and it was almost like the
industry being like, we have to give pro Jam an award.
We've never given an award, So they gave him an
award for a song called Last Exit, which is on Vitology.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Why what did it win?

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Single Rock single, I believe or something?

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Last Exit from Pearl Jam right, Yeah, and it won
a Grammy.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, either that one or Spin the Black Circle one
of the two.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Let's see Pearl Jam Grammys. They won well in nineteen
ninety six for Hard Rock Performance.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
That's probably Neil Young.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
There were a lot of Pearl Jam.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Dude, I'm a huge Pro Jam fan, still a huge
program in Pearl Jam.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
I mean, yeah, Pearl Jam was Jeralm yeah all that. Yeah, yeah, they.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Kind of all run together.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
No they don't, they don't.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
And I'll tell you what's cool about Vitology is that
I caught him at a time where, like I enjoyed
the rest of their albums after that. People that don't
like Pearl Jam much anymore, they liked old Pro Jam,
they loved even Flow Jeremy Alive, so that they didn't
really understand a lot of the older Pearl Jam when
they kind of got, you know, more experienced and wanted

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to experiment more with music. So I got to catch
him at a time where, like I do like their
later stuff because of that, I wasn't in love with
the early stuff.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, I can't really find what they won for. I'm
not good at this search for stuff.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
It was I remember the acceptance speech was like he
was like, I don't really know how you can put
you can judge art? Oh shut up, So I guess
thank you.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
It was the best hard rock performance for what's been
the Black Circle ninety six.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
There you go, shut up with that.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
I don't know how you They don't go to the
award show and he did it.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
They did it. Wouldn't go to award shows until then.
He's like, thank you. I guess it was awesome. It
was so cool.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, I kind of got yeah, yeah, and there one
way I get it. But then now on the other
side of like some of that stuff, it's like, you know,
especially doesn't it doesn't maybe so much apply then as
it does now because then there were so many more
gatekeepers and stuff like that. But like now, if you
don't like X kind of music, but you sort of

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make X kind of music you don't like, you don't
have to say that you do make that kind of music.
Like if you don't like country music, or if you
think that certain kind of country music isn't country music,
that you can just have a whole life doing that
and it's find your fans in a way that you're
not boxed in the way you would have been there.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
It was kind of their thing to to fight everything.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah, for sure, they'd all like ticket mass.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
You know, it was always fight, fight, fight, which was
kind of the grunge era, right, Like, no one understands us,
that's right.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Why are we awarding art they don't show up to
the show?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I mean, I don't know how you can award art.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Like Morgan Wallan doesn't show up to the CMAS.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
You got to show up to the CMS.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Morganwall Either got to respect the fact that he just
doesn't go.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah, if he went and was like, I don't know
why I'm here. You're here, Yeah, that would be weird.
So don't go to Machine And I'm saying kind of
a douchey move.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Okay, so don't go.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Don't go there if you're gonna complain about being.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
There at the time. Is also it's like the context
is different, so it could have been it was. It's
not like now where you have so much access to
everyone all the time. You know, back then, you know,
you had a couple of award shows in the Grammys.
Might be the only time you would like.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
That was your voice.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
See, so you don't want that voice he obviously doesn't
want the voice of being on commercial television.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
I think he wanted that chance to tell everyone that
this is stupid.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
He wanted the chance to tell everyone that what he
was doing was stupid that he didn't.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Have to do.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yeah, I mean, but again, it's like, if he doesn't
show up, then there's an article in Rolling Stone where
he says all that shit in print that probably doesn't
have the impact. I'm just saying, like, but he.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Didn't know he was gonna win though. Either you're going
to that thing not knowing you're gonna win.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
I guess it's true. I mean, I'm just saying the
context might be, the media landscape might have made it different.
I'm just trying to like play Devil's evance.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
I'm playing no advocate. I'm saying, if you're gonna go
and complain about being there, don't go.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
He's fine, he doesn't need me.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
And then they say, you know, like, oh.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Eddie Betters on the phone, now ed line one the like,
where's your Grammy night? He's like, I don't know, yeah, right,
he's out in a shrine in his freaking house.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
I do like Pearl Jam, But they do start sounding
a bit similar. Eddie Vedder's voice to me is like
axels guitar playing. It all kind of sounds slash guitar, sorry,
slashes guitar playing.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Excuse me. It all kind of sounds the same.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
I don't get offended, but you're kind of offending me a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
It all sounds the same.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Eddie's voice.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, he sounds the same. It all.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's us.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
It's like dance music to.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Me, but no one ever sounded like that great and
then and then everyone wanted to sound like that.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Rihanna had did the same thing of pop music. Stapleton
did the same thing for us. Man, It's like somebody
comes along that's really good in a different way, and
then everyone you.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Know, and then someone comes along and says like, it's
kind of the same.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
All of it.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
I like him, but all their songs kind of sound
the same. Okay, just like all dance music sounds the
same to me. That means my palette is not but sure,
that's crazy, Okay, Okay, let's do another one. Let's do
favorite debut albums ever, Matt Stell, you can start with
this one.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
All right, sweet, get my list up. Debut albums is
tough because again, like if you get into music, if
you get into a band in the middle of what
they're doing, you know, it's like I started liking Kings
of Leon at the Only by the Night record, So
that's obviously another debut record. So it's a little bit
of a dive to figure out, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
But can't you go back and you can and think
absolutely and go oh, I found them, But I'm gonna
go back to their first record and be like, Wow,
this record's freaking awesome, and I don't think you have
to experience it right when it comes out.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Okay, well I did an all mine for the record.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
I'm glad you clarified that because I have one where
I went back the Beatles.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Yeah, okay, yeah, cool. I just did it for like
the debut albums that I was there for that I
you know, that meant something to me, you know, So
top three this is like to me, you know, the
first one to me is that Hosier self titled record,
Hosier record that had taken me to church on it
and all that stuff unbelievably groundbreaking to me. Like he's

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still one of my favorite artists. Everything he does to
me is cool. That record is special, special special.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
All I know is take Me to Church.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
I think I'm trying to think what else you would
know off of what's it called? Uh, that record's self tie,
it's just called.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Hoosier first record. Let's say if I know any other songs?

Speaker 4 (33:22):
That was the like single, I mean, that was the
thing that broke.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Do they have any other they have any other big singles?
Because I know some of his later stuff. But yeah,
I don't think I'm just not smart in your music.
Your music is way above where my brain goes.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Well, I mean it was like or is he trying
to be cool?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
No, I don't think the cool debut records to impress.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yes, I really love Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Don't know it take me to Church. I don't know
any of the other ones.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yeah, all that that records is cool for.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Not discounting it.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yeah, it's just it's great. I mean, spend the time
when it's awesome. The second one was ray La Montange's Trouble.
That record came out the first time, Like you heard
him singing that on What's the British Show where they
get in the Jules Holland. I think it's the first
time I saw like I saw a clip of him
on Jules Holland doing Trouble, and that was like they

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had Joe Lene.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
On there talking about one of the coolest voices.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Yeah, man, really really cool. And he was like in
a time where the kind of like that sort of
analog kind of acoustic y thing was not what it
is now, you know what I mean that that was
a real kind of game change. I mean people Zach
Brown covered that, you know, Joelne's song, we put it

(34:39):
on a record. I mean it had ripples out everywhere.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
So to me, it sounded like somebody was introducing a
song to me from twenty years ago. I thought it
was an old song that I'd missed, see yeah, And
so I heard it.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
I was like, oh, this is good.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
I never heard this on Cool ninety five in Arkansas,
the oldie station, and turns out it was new.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
It was just really good.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
So that old retro type sound, it was so good
that it cut through yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Yeah and then which that just made me think of
another record that would have been awesome on here.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
It was you can't keep adding a record. You can't
keep adding you know the.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Rules, man, All right, fine, you're doing honorable mentions. And
adding records in the middle of the of the bed.
I even gave you this ahead of time to have time.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
I wrote it down. All right, fine, well, then never mind.
I'll keep that great insight that was. I will keep
all those jewels and stuff. The third one for me
was Turnpike Diamonds and Gasoline. And when that record dropped,
I mean, that was the world I was in at
the time. You know, it's the music I was listening to,

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the music I was trying to make, and they came
along with that record, and uh, this banger from front
to back, and you know, now, now that's a band
that means a whole lot to a lot of people.
But I remember, I remember that Diamonds of Gasoline being
on heavy rotation in the van when we were driving
to wherever we were going.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
They played Million doll Show with us a couple of
years ago, and they were like, what songs do you
want us to play? And I was like, play Diamonds
gas landon though you can pick your other stuff, but.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
If you do that.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
I didn't get into them until I got with Caitlin
because they're from Tahlequah, Oklahoma, and that's right near where
she's from. And when they came into the studio to play,
I was like, oh, you guys from Talaquad. They're like,
you're the first person to ever say it, right, I
was like, my wife's from right near there, so I
know it. And so she played it NonStop. So I
got a late introduction, but then I got it. I
was just way late to the party, like I was

(36:28):
showing up at two am when everybody was, you know,
was already drunk.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
But yeah, and they were awesome.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
They were super cool guys and guys who had definitely
had spent their time invested on the road, playing shows,
making records, and it was kind of weird to them.
They were starting to cut through at this stage of
their career. Like when I was talking to them, that
was kind of what I got from them is they're
like this kind of wild that we're kind of hitting
right now because we've been doing this for a long

(36:54):
time and we haven't done anything different.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
But would they be considered a red dirt?

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Yeah, for sure, for sure, I think so. I mean, yes,
I think, you know, whatever you want to call you know,
the Texans get pretty They're the only ones that get
prickly about what you call it because you know, don't
call it Texas country if it's not from Texas. But so,
what's red dirt Oklahoma?

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Okay? To me, it's a Texas country. Is Texas country?
Red Dirt's Oklahoma?

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Texas country can go into it red dirt, it did, right,
But I feel like red Dirt can be Texas Country.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
I think the reason that people say red dirt is
for bands like Turnpike, Stoney, LaRue, Ragweed that were Oklahoma
based bands Texas the thing that they was.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
I thought Stony was Texas.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
I mean if he was in New Bronfles maybe Yeah,
for some reason. Yeah, don't let me like, look, I'll
piss somebody if trying to act. I know everything about
all that. But red Dirt kind of encompasses Texas Country
and Oklahoma in the same way that all squares are
rectangles but not all rectangles or squares. That's how that works.
One is a subset of the other.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I'll go my three favorite debut albums ever Casey Musgrave,
Same Trailer, Different Park, which she's one of my favorite artists.
I put like vinyl albums out front of the studio
of like music that I really like, even at music
in the studio, And that was a game changer because
she was really traditional, but it was also really progressive

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at the same time, and that was odd, I think
to country music because it was very country, yet it
was very progressive, and those two just didn't mix, especially
in that era of like the twenty tens.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
You know, there had been versions of that. People forget that.
Whenever the Highwaymen were together, that was a pretty progressive group.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, like you know, there was country as it gets,
but they were talking like hey, human rights.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
They literally had a song about flying a spaceship.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
They did press.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
It was very pre and so same thing with Casey
and that record. Loved it because of how it sounded
but also what it was saying. So I was I
was totally in there. The other one is hooting in
the Blowfish Cracked a review. I played that thing. I
had a cassette and I would drive football practice and
I played it every day going to school in football practice,
and I would just flip it and it wore off

(39:31):
all the letters on the cassette because on the top
of the cassette it had all the tracks listed. When
it got to the end, he had to pull it out,
flip it and do it again. And I played it
so many times that there was no It looked like
a blank tape. And I loved it so much. I
remember doing a charity event with Darius and we were
both at Andy Roddick's charity event in Austin, and so
I was doing like a little bit of comedy and

(39:53):
hosting it and Darius himself not as hooty, but Darius
was playing it. And we were up watching a football
game before the event, and I said, man, I've I
just ate up crack review, like it's all I listened to.
I loved it so much, and he was like, yeah,
wa't your favorite song. I said, there's a song called
Running from an Angel, and he goes, man, I ain't
play that in twenty years, And I was like, I

(40:15):
listened to that thing so much and there's like an
opening guitar looks like yeah, yeah, fiddle.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Okay. It may be like things stacked, but I remember
the fiddle song on that too.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
I did that record and he came out he played it.
He didn't tell me he was gonna play, and he
came out and played it and he's like, wait and
played this forever, worked this out for Bobby and he's like,
run it to the Devil, Devil and it was.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Awesome that record. That's another one.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
And the songs that everybody knows are like hold my Hand,
only want to Be with You, let Her Cry, which
were all the big one, massive songs. But that's from
the list in the County Crows, August and everything after.
That's my favorite band of all time. It's the greatest
record of all time.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Have you heard him do that cover of the one
Taylor Swift at Taylor Swift song? I usually am not
a huge like what you know, it takes a lot
to get me to care about a cover of a
current song. That version that he does, like his voice
is so emotive, like it just makes you feel so
I don't know, I love I love it.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
He also turns that into like raining in Baltimore or
Long December when he does that, because he does that
into another Yeah, it's yeah, amazing.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Amy One House was my honorable mention.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
But it okay, he had to get it in. Couldn't
help after we told him not that it couldn't help.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
It, Eddie, you only get two's gonna be like the Army.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
If someone else screws up, everybody pays for it. Now
you only get too Matt took one.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Well, yeah, well I'll.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Just go kind of crows it August and everything after
because same, dude, I mean that one too. I got
from the beginning. I didn't have to go back and
listen to that one. It's pretty amazing. I still I
still like to go go back and like pull that
up on a playlist and just listen to the whole
album again, which is rare. Now, right to listen to
the whole album. Love that, and then I'm gonna go
Matchbox twenty yourself or someone like you.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
That's such an awesome record. Dude, is this a pilot?
Guy in the front is so distinct, It's great. It's
like this fat dude with a leather like pilot helmet on.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Right, Yes, yes, that's it. Black and white. Yeah, Matchbox
twenty two is in a band that like I love,
but dude, that record I listened to so much. The
first four songs like real World, four Am Push I.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Think three am is Matchbox twenty four Am is our lady, Peter.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
You're right, three am I must be lonely dude? So yeah,
those those would be my two since I can't do
a third.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Just quickly, let's say you had a third. What would
it have been? Pearl jam Ten got it, but Matt
took that from you.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
But Matt, yeah, thanks Matt, I.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Fixed it for you. Give me Bobby's glasses, you had
vision in nine hands.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Give me the best lead singers of your life. It
started to go first, right, yeah, and Edie, if you
go extra, you take one from Okay, Oh I have four?

Speaker 2 (43:07):
I have four, don't worry about that. Uh, not to
be cool. But Jeff Buckley, dude, Jeff Buckley was an amazing,
amazing singer of my lifetime. One album, right, one album
and then he died one song too? Really maybe two
albums like released after he died. One song is a cover, right,
Leonard Cohen, Yes, it was a cover. I'm like hating

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that album though it has really good songs in it,
that's right, Grace is the album great?

Speaker 4 (43:33):
All right? I'm a little like listen, no shade did
Jeff Buckley. But we're talking about like your fate. When
we say best singers of all time, do we really
mean your favorite three singers.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
I didn't do all time because like obviously I put
Elvis on. There's like great, and you could take this
however you wanted.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
I did best singers of my life, of my life,
lifetime like mine.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Like I wasn't around for led Zeppelin, right, so like
I'm not going to do Robert plant so Jeff Buckley, uh,
Steve even Tyler.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, he's awesome, dude. I saw him a concert there
or four times in my life. They were awesome. I
saw them. They were always old, to be fair, but
I saw them old and then really old, and they
were even good, really old.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah, And that's and that's the thing, like to sing
the way he does at that age, and even in
like ten years ago, even when Armageddon came out, he
wasn't young ten years ago. No, no, no, I'm saying
even like when he's saying ten years ago, because I
don't know that's almost thirty years ago what Armageddon would think.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
So I need to look at that.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
But go ahead, I'm just saying, like from from dream
on to like Armageddon, that was a long span of time.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Ninety eight.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
That's crazy, Mike, thirty years ago, that's crazy, and Eddie's
Dog Years.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
It's ten ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
I don't realize you see that movie that came out
the other day.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
It was so good as a forest Gump.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
It's like last summer.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
She go check it out?

Speaker 3 (44:52):
All right?

Speaker 2 (44:53):
What else you got? Chris Cornell? Chris Cornell do was amazing,
Rest in Peace awesome. I never saw him live, but
obviously all the stuff on albums and songs really good.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Some would say the real star of Temple of the
Dog not true. Some would say that would be Eddie Vedder.
Some would say, I mean really, Eddieveder was a guest
on Temple of the Dog.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Hey. Some would say, but my last Eddie Vedder. So
I did four four greatest lead singers. Go ahead, Matt, but.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
You picked four of the greatest alternative singer like dude,
singers like you have a very distinct probaps for your
your favorite kind of music. I think I think you
can't go talking about singers in the last genre like whatever. Yeah,

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the last several months with without talking about Chris Stapleton.
Chris Stapleton is one of the depending on your your
flavor of what you like, is is the best singer
that we've ever had in country music. Now, there's other
people that are as good that do different things, you know, obviously,

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but I mean you have a whole like everyone tried
to sound like and does try to sound like Chris
Stable and some people come close, but like he invented
a style of country music with how good his voice is.
I'll never forget when there was that first time I
heard that Steel Driver's record and his voice cuts off
that I can't remember if it's which one it is,

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but when he's singing blue Side of the Mountain and
it's nothing but a guitar that his voice comes on,
I mean it just it's it's just good on those
bluegrass records that are dry, that are like very live sounding,
that are not not churched up in any way. It's
just like his vocal, I mean he has he has

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a national anthem that's as good as Whitney Houston style
down that Hill.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
You can listen to that still streaming like so good
it's it is.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
He is one of our special ones.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
So your list is just best singers of all.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
Time, Well, I mean that's of my I mean that, but.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
I did lead singers and bands.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
Well that's fine. I mean he was awesome as a
bluegrass singer.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Ye know, I'm just wondering where but he's list is
falls because I literally said lead singers. If we were
doing best singers, I think I would probably pick different people.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Well, okay, he was the best singer in his bluegrass band.
He was the best singer. Still Drivers, steel Drivers, He's
best singer.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
I was just asking.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
I was thinking about best like singer. I wouldn't think
about band is in terms of like, oh, I'm glad
you stated that literal band. Yeah, like a lead singer.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
But I did say lead singer when I said the
note like a specifically with like lead singers.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
So now I feel stupid background singers, who I'm about
to say next. So I mean I would say this account.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Like, No, you just took the category different, and you
know what, we.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Need to operationalize our definitions.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
So if you have background singers, you technically haven't.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
I said best lead singers.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
I'm just making it apparent that I went with band singers,
because obviously I could have picked home run hitters like
are with the Franklin Chris Stapleton. But anyway, go ahead, yeah,
one more, let me guess barbarstraree.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
I mean, I guess she's good. Yeah, I'm gonna talk
about it. I only get two. I'm gonna talk about
Aretha Franklin for a little while. Aretha Franklin is like
somehow still underrated for how great she is. And you can, like,
if you want to watch how unbelievable she is. She
was like seventy years old at that Kennedy Honors thing
and you can go watch it and it will change

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your life. And she did it with a lot of
the time, with a cigarette and her piano hand. I mean,
she is one of the finest that we've ever had,
singing the most like some of the most emotive like
sort of gospel soul stuff that there is. So I
goes would be my two.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I mean I would have picked Otis Ratting if we
were just picking like greatest singers, great voice.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Otis Red.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Yeah, guess live records are so good. But I didn't.
I played by the roles.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Okay, you want that as your honorable mentions.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Now, because I'm not cheating. I'm not cheating. I played
by the roles that I made.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Though, to be fair, I have Chris Martin from Colplay,
one of the best lead singers can Make You Cry
played the stupid dance version of it runs around do
you think he has a great voice? Yeah, can play
the piano, can sit and just play a piano and
can also do that, and like has been massive for
twenty five years, like since Armagedon, dude's be putting him out.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
It's just a couple couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Just nailing them, Like whenever a Yellow hit and that
video was on MTV if I'm walking down the Beach,
I was like, this is exactly what I want, what
I'm seeking in my life, this kind of sadness. And
they have been able to transition to different types of music,
adding electronic music, going straight ahead pop, coming back to
the piano, like you just don't see that often and
he's able to do it, and it feels like it's

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actually him as the artist, not like a if you
look at Adam Levine, I didn't put him on the list.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
But sometimes I feel.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Like they chase pop because they're really good at it,
at writing pop songs, so that dude can just do
it whatever, like Train, Yeah, Train, Train's awesome though, Train Uh?
Pat Monahan, Pat Monahan, that guy can sing.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
You ever hear him?

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Dow led Zeppelin.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, we saw him at iHeart Festival. Amazing
crush is it?

Speaker 1 (50:09):
I put Chris Martin because I think it's versatility in
their original artistry and he is able to perform all
of that and seem authentic A plus. Now go and
hate on it. This has turned into the hater fest.
This has turned into basically stephen A.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Let me tell you what you know what I don't
like about Chris Martin.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
That's wow.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, I'm shocked to I'm shocked by that.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Anytime, like I'm gonna sit here as someone who who
makes music, who you like, it's gonna sound ridiculous when
I'd say, like, have critiques of bands that have sold
millions of records.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
So you're not critiquing the band, you're critiquing my choice
to put him as one of the top three of
my lifetime.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
I would as a lead singer, just an lead singer.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
When I think of cold Play, when I think of
what when you go in the studio and you say
you reference Coldplay in the studio, it's not to get
the vote Coal sounds like they have it. It's to
get that beat from clocks. So I don't think of
them as like a band that is driven, Like I'm

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not saying that they're No.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Is it not so distinctly vocal though? And isn't that
what being a great lead singer is, as one being
a great front man but also so distinct vocally. And
I think Chris Martin is so distinct there's no you
can't fake as him because only he can do what
he does.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Sometimes I think Matt Carney is him. Yeah, sometimes I
think I don't find it.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
I don't find that vocal. I think the music I
don't find that vocal to be what is makes that music.
I think those songs and those melodies are great. But
like when I'm thinking about great vocalists, I'm just interested that.
I'm just interesting that, like you hear it that way?

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Yeah, because it is so distinct and it makes me
feel that's fair.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
But I would like, well you sun well, Chris Cornell
was the right answer.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
It's not the right answer, Okay, next up, dead Girl.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
He screams.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Have you ever seen Dave Grol live?

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Can you sing? Yes? Like sing sing?

Speaker 1 (52:07):
He can sing and he can scream sing because he
can control scream. Telling you have you ever seen him live? Yes,
I've been to eleven food Fighter shows.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Okay, well, I've seen him maybe once.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
One of the maybe the greatest rock singer I've ever seen.
And it's not like I've been to five hundred different
rock shows. I think, in my life it's the greatest
rock singer I've ever seen. I didn't get to see
Kirk Cole band, although they were together up there, Yes
they were, because he was the drummer. I think Dave
Girl is the greatest rock and roll singer of our lifetime.
I think they're the greatest American rock and roll band

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possibly ever.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Are you gonna go with the Eagles? I mean, are
are they even rock and roll?

Speaker 4 (52:50):
Yeah? They are?

Speaker 2 (52:50):
They're rock and roll?

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Are they? If they existed today, they'd be a country band?

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Crossover food Fighters America's greatest rock band ever. Imagine Dragons,
but name the great ones, Rolling Stones, Beatles, No, I.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Get that, Oasis, Yeah, for sure, like the greatest America
I mean maybe. I mean they've been making music for.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
I mean, you would put Aerosmith in there, right, yeah, Aerosmith.
Obviously you'd put him in there, Jim, No, you wouldn't
put Earl jam in there.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
But also they've been making music for such a long
time and sustained great like I could see like it's
like a a Lebron versus Jordan argument here they would
be the Lebron and that they've done it consistently over
for you know, so long.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
One of my records out front is the Food Fighters.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
The Food Fighters are great, Like I love the Food Fighters.
That's why do you.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Change your voice toning. You guys are just picking great singers.
I'm picking like distinct and generational success. They've been able
to come and do it multiple times differently. I mean,
think about this, dude. He's the drummer and the biggest
maternity band of all time obviously, and how do you
even live up to that? Because every question you're ever
going to get for the rest your life is Kirk,

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You're the drummer and the greatest alternative band of all
time at least the one that set it off, that
that turned that into Grune and he's been able to
take that from No.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
It really is amazing.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
When you mentioned Lebron.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
You can't put Lebron on the cover Sports Illustrated and
say he's he's the chosen one. He's never going to
meet that except he did Dave Grohl is the lebron
of rock music.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Are they putting on a new album, dude, I don't know.
They keep having I think they have a new album.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
My other one is atam Durri's kind of cross see
to want to tell him.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
What that's it? Well, I mean when you when you
say okay, it has to be a band, then that
just changed the dynamic.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
I said lead singer, so I already said on the changing.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
Does not necessarily imply like a band.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Lead singer means a band, I don't. A singer means
a singer, a solo, A.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
Lead singer in my band?

Speaker 3 (54:48):
No, you're you're a solo artist. No, you're a solo artist.
Well are you a solo artist? Yes or no?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Yes, okay, you're a solo artist. What was your band
name when you guys were together?

Speaker 4 (54:57):
The Crashers mess still on the Crasher and there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
But but see, like Zach Brown band, he would be
the lead singer of Zach Brown band.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Right, No, I know, I think you only do that though,
to know that you can replace all the parts.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
It's always hostage. You've got your band as a hostage
because you can always change them out and nobody knows
because they're just known as the band just the freaking Crashers. Yeah,
Like I love the Crashers before Matt so I was
a big fan before he came in.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
He just ruined it all with his terrible takes.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
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Speaker 3 (55:39):
What are you doing now musically, because that's how you
put out something new?

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Yeah, man, I just kind of started a different like
project that's a little less uh, a little less anything
Like what does that mean? Well, you know, I make
music every day that I'm not on the road, and
so I turn in like a lot of songs and
I just you know, a lot of my life had
like spent writing country music, which I love but pointed

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at a certain thing. But then I was just turning
in songs that were not that, and you know, for
a while and been past iterations of record deals and
stuff like that, that's kind of been like not encouraged, like, well,
let's get the next hit, but we're just kind of
leaning into some stuff that I'm doing that's not necessarily
all that country.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
How is it different?

Speaker 1 (56:27):
It's it's it's like Coldplay, and this is why I
so upset. It was all blue.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
It's a cold Play.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Are the Crashers getting back together? Is that what you're saying, Let's.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Go with the crew united reunited? Yeah, shout out to
some of them.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Uh, documentary they broke out, it was I just got
it coming out pretty soon now.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
It's called The Drift, yeah, and it's kind of that, man.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
The Drift is the song.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
The song is the project. The project is called The Drift. Yeah.
The so called Sugarcoat that's the first single off of it.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
So the album is called The Drift.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
Yeah, well the project that I'm.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Doing talking like an alien right now?

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Yeah, exactly are you doing Chris for you to get
Are you doing Chris Gaines?

Speaker 4 (57:11):
No, No, I'm not going I'm not doing. It's not
a joke like I'm I'm I'm being I'm doing some
different stuff. I was being creative in a different way.
And uh, you know, it's like I'm using some some
digital sounds that are just kind of a low five,
gritty kind of thing. It's it's I don't like talking
about it. Like it's two minutes and fifty seconds. You

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should just go listen. To the verse and chorus, and see.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
I don't like talking about it, but we're talking about it. Yeah,
and you're going to be asked and you're going to
want to talk about it.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Yeah, but like, okay, here's what happens. It's like, well,
what does this sound like? And then I have to
like name the best bands ever? Oh? I sound like
Fergy and Jesus. You know. It's like, no, I made
I made a new project that I'm really proud of.
That's uh.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Is that a band? Fergie and Jesus?

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Yeah, you've never heard of Fergie and Jesus.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
No separately of the two people.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Yeah, everybody Black Eyed Peas and Jesus Christ. I didn't
know they clapped.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Are you all being serious right now?

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (58:07):
We're not as cool as what are you talking?

Speaker 4 (58:09):
These step brothers? You sound like a mixture of Friggie
and Jesus.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Okay, guy reference, Sorry, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (58:16):
Dude? Hell these guys that's not even.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
The best sing are we the Franklin?

Speaker 2 (58:21):
I'd say the last three minutes, I'm very confused by
all of it.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Yeah. Man, I've got a new project I'm pumped about.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
It's called The Drift and the project is not the
album nor it's the song.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
The song that the song The Drift just did mass Stell.
The Drift is called Sugarcoat. Yeah, it's out.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
And we can listen to it.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Yeah. Yeah, you can listen to it.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Like literally, are do we just feel it?

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Like it?

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Just turn it on and there's no sound that comes out.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
Well, we'll get down cold Play to sing it. Maybe
you'll lie God.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
So the name of the song is Sugarcoat, and the
project is well, the project is The Drift, but it's
not the album The Drift.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Are you still going to play all the hits?

Speaker 4 (59:00):
Yeah, I'm lucky to have hits. I'm glad to play them,
but ill, but I'm also uh excited to do different stuff.
I got into this to like be creative, and I've
got people around me They're like, hey, man, go be creative,
So I am. It's yeah. So this project is, uh,
this is the first song off of it, so.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
I feel like we're playing it all right here it.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
Is, Yeah, exactly insert here.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
What song do you play first when you do a show? Like,
do you hit him with a hit first?

Speaker 4 (59:29):
I hit him with a hit early. So both of
my like quote unquote hits are mid mid tempo or ballads,
So you got it's hard to come out of the
gate with that. So I come out of the gate
with with a couple like up tempo you know, songs
that we had, and then I go quickly into uh everywhere.

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But on Are you familiar with a primacy recncy effect?

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Yeah, I am, But tell him, no, what is it about?
I read about it last n from step brother.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
Privacy Recentcy effect is you'll remember the first thing you
heard in the last thing you heard more so than
anything in the middle. So when you have things that
like I have like two hits, you know quote unquote
you play play it first, play it last, and everything
in the middle. You know you kind of uh free
to try to catch attention, but you put those are

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the those are the prime real estate in a set
or in anything that you're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
I feel like you have more than two hits.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
Well, I mean I had two number ones at radio.
I had you know, I've had you know a couple
of other things.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Yeah, do you play do you play your Mama's House
at all?

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
Jam?

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Yeah, I play it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
You had to think about that, just said, yeah, it
is he freaking makes a Fergie and Jesus reference.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
I don't remember a song that we wrote that together.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Yeah, will you tell you how the second verse of
it too?

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
By the way, Yeah, were you mad about that?

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Yeah? I was mad about that. Did you even consult
your creatives about that? You just made a wholesale change?

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I was like, that was a time. It was just
a time.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
I felt like that was just an awful That's just
a shitty way to be a band leader, Like, you know,
we're not you're not being collaborative.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Oh the lead singer. He's going after the lead singer.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
That's why the Crashers never bad leadership.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Prayed for You one hundred and thirty eight million streams
just on one of these services everywhere, but on sixty
four million streams. But breaking in Boots, I know that song.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
You have like four or five songs that I think
Jen Pop would know, and then your fans would know
some of the other ones.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
Yeah. I mean, so that's how like, obviously you play
the biggest thing last so that people don't go home
after you play Pray for You, and then the first
thing is the kind of to kind of get the attention.
You played the next biggest hit and then you kind
of sport you sort of put them in if this
makes sense, like like you do lug like you tighten
lug nuts. You don't go in order with the hits.

(01:01:45):
You go first, last, middle front, middle back. You know
what I'm saying? Like that way we lost you with
the drift.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Yeah, what's your thing called? Where you remember the beginning
of the end?

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Privacy recent racency, no privacy, racist, privacy, racency, can see racist?

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Got it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Prim got it?

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Okay, boys, Matt, thanks for coming by. I want to
finish on this. I like to shout out to the
band Perry. I believe we just saw one of the
cleanest transitions in band history. Because the band Perry launches,
they are everywhere. They got massive songs When I Die Young,
If I Die Young, whatever, that song is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
So they have multiple number one hits and they decide
we're gonna go do some different. Then they break up
and they decided we're not going to play for a while.
And it's Kimberly Perry, who I really like, and her
two brothers and they're done, and all of a sudden
they come back and here they are the band Perry
is back.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
It's Kimberly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
It's one of her brothers, and it's her husband, and
and so he's got blonde Harry singer songwriter, you know, okay,
And I'm like, oh this is this works. It's Kimberly,
it's brother because it's like Matt still in the Crashers.
All you need is the lead and you got it.
Who cares about the Crashers? Well, I mean, so.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
She's there, one member and a husband.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
And the husband looked just like one of the other
brothers anyway, because he died his hair blonde or maybe
it was blonde.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Was he always blonde?

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
I think he was blond when I met him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Here love it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Then the other brother leaves, so now it's the band
Perry is just Kimberly and her husband.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Just a couple.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Genius.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
And if this was a plan the whole time to
make that the band piri a plus strategy. You got
the brothers to jump in for a second. I'm gonna ahead,
check out. And it went close enough to the band Perry.
They came back, and now you just kick the brother out.
That's what the husband.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
She's back.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
It's a plus, hey, man, so along those lines speaking
of a plus. A year or two ago, I was
playing a music festival and Leonard Skinner was headlining it.
And as we were getting close to the show about
I mean maybe like a month or so before I

(01:03:53):
see like the kirn or my social media says so
and so, last remaining survived, last remaining member of Leonard
Skinner passes away and you know we're having to open
a show for them. But it's like the lead singer
has been his brother for twenty something years now, right,

(01:04:14):
so they have gone the full like one step past
the Bend Perry where they replaced like literally every single
member has been replaced, like they didn't know that. Yeah,
there's not an original one, not one original member, not one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
There's one guy that looks really old and they kind
of make it seem like he's the last one.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
The last one. This was a year or two ago,
the last one that passed away had passed. Because I
was like, we're opening up for like Leonard Skinner LLC.
Like ye now you know, and what I can't remember?
I get all the brothers confused, Johnny, Donnie, Ronnie, which
one it is right now? But he's he's been singing
for twenty something years and he sounds like that and

(01:04:55):
they're rocking out and doing their thing. But that, yeah,
like there's there's literally none of them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Are you from with the ship of thesis?

Speaker 6 (01:05:02):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
Nothing? Nice dude? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
So the whole theory is is it the same boat
if all the parts have been replaced?

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Because over time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
They constantly have to move things off and on a ship,
parts change it out. So is it the same boat
when it started that if they've had to repair it
and everything on the ship is new, but it was
all connected to other parts at some point, is that
still the same ship?

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
This is the argument, the continuation argument for consciousness. If
you replaced individually every neuron in your brain, one after one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
After another, though not all at once, that would be
a whole.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
Different That's the continuity part of because really all of
our cells are brand new after from like six to
eighteen months. We're not the same. So it's not that
we have the same cell it's that we have continuously
replaced them at a certain rate, and some rate is
okay enough below a threshold to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Our body is Leonard skinned, is what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Exactly? Exactly and this bird you cannot change.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
All right, that's it, Thank you all for being here.
Check out Matt Stell's new project called the Drift. But
if I just searched the drift Matt Stell, what comes up?

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
The sugarcoat will come up?

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Or do we look up just Matt Stell and there
it will be?

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
There, it will be. You can't you can't run into
me digitally right now and not come into contact with
the drift.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
So why'd you call it the drift? Because you're drifting
from what people know you as.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Yeah, well, I feel like that would be perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
How about the drifters.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Boo speaking they played the other day at a football game,
like halftime. It can't be the same, guys. It was
like two two original.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Speaking of check me out on the halftime show the
Liberty Bowl this year on your ESPN dial.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Oh cool, Arkansas didn't make it. That's usually our ball games.
They brought the Arcans into play it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
This is the closest thing to getting a razor back
at the Liberty Bowl. Keeping the streak.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
All right, Go check out Matt Stell and the Drift
and Sugarcoats.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
The song.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
This is it. That's it, this is the project.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Yeah yeah, all right, let's listen now here we are
B ninety five. Dang, he said, get it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
The weirdest thing is when you have to listen to
music in front of people, oh dude, because you have
to like nod your head and neck like you're feeling it,
even though if you don't normally listen to music like that,
because when I really like something, I don't nod my
head and feel it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
We did that with Steven Tyler.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
I don't remember. I blocked it out trauma. He was like, yeah,
churching it up. Yeah, yeah, okay, Matt, good to see buddy.
Thanks for coming in, Eddie.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
I'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Good job everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
All right, we'll see where your shoes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
They're in the front. Like literally, just got this carpet
moved in.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Have you considered dumping a hot, steaming pot of coffee
on the carpet. I'm gonna autograph this day.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
All right, Matt's doll.

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
Everybody, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.

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