In this episode, Bobby and Eddie talk about famous songs that are actually misunderstood. The artists wrote them about one subject but over time people have taken them to mean something completely different. From Wonderful Tonight by Eric Clapton, "Born in the USA" by Bruce Springsteen, "Closing Time" by Semisonic and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to episode Famous Songs with Misunderstood Meanings And at
my house to do the podcast today, and I feel
like it's a Sunday and you really wouldn't be working.
But because I have a pool, I'm here and you
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could use the kids could use the pool. Yeah, it
worked out wonderfully. It worked out great. Actually, so you
be you don't buy about twenty minutes, yes, because it's
it's becoming a thing now to leave the house at
the same time. If I want to be somewhere on time,
we've got to separate. Oh so you can't get out
on time with all four of the we tried. That
was the goal to all get here at the same time.
I'm like, all right, I gotta go see there. So
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what if they get here a while you're up here,
to go straight to the back? Okay? Cool? Right? Yeah,
to have them to go to that back like they
know it. Yeah, I think so the two main doors,
don't If not, screw it, man, then figure it out. Yeah,
but that's Eddie. And so we were talking about doing
this Bobby cast because we haven't done one, and people
like these a lot more than I thought that, not
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that I I didn't think they would. It's just that
we geek out a lot over music, and I didn't
think a lot of people like that. I think they
just like you. Oh cool Eddie from the Sore Losers podcast,
which I encourage you to check out if you like
sports or or a guy talk. Do you guys talk
about farts a lot or not? No? No? I mean
sometimes we do. Yeah. Sometimes we talk about like hooking
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up more than we should because past hookups and like
what girls like that kind of stuff, And it's just
like we shouldn't talk about all that. Let's just move on.
At Home run last night. Check out the Sore Losers podcast. Um,
but we're gonna do famous songs with misunderstood meanings. I'm
trying to think of this well. And this is where
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it all came from, because on the show recently, I
was talking about this song right here, Wonderful Tonight by
Eric Clapton, And people usually think this song is a
love song, correct, straight up loves song. Yes, because he's like, yes,
you look wonderful. People dance their first dance. They play
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it in romantic scenes of movies because again, most people
feel it's a love song. But what it's really about
is waiting for his girlfriend to get ready, like hurry up. Yeah,
like hey, yeah, you look great, Let's go and again,
lots of proms. Yeah. Do you know what cartillian is?
Let me see cartillion. It's got to be a rich
person thing. Okay, cartillion? Is it the white person version
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of a um kenana or a I think that's what
I don't I don't know. I mean, I'm a Mexican.
I would assume that it's this. It's that right, right?
What is that? Write? A package of passage where like
a girl turns into a woman. Is that? You know
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how you feel uncomfortable talking about I don't like talking
about girls running into women, But I think that's what
it was. Mike, Will you look up a cotillion? Because
I was a little span of guy in South Texas
and there was a group of white people that had
cotillion and I got asked to cotillion by by one
of these girls. What was your age? We were juniors
in high school, so seventeen, okay, so maybe a little
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older than yeah. And so this I remember this song
was our first dance because we got there and we're
hanging out whatever, and this song came on and she
was like this is a nice one. I liked this
and let's dance to it. But this always reminds me
of that Cotillion. I still don't even know what that is.
The song gets used a lot of problems and weddings,
but Eric Clapton wrote Wonderful Tonight in nineteen seventy six
while waiting for his girlfriend and future wife, Patty to
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get ready for a night out. They were going to
a Buddy Holly tribute to Paul McCartney put together, and
Clapton was in the position that he was used to
of waiting while she tried on clothes. We've all been there,
like many of us. Do you know the pat the
George Harrison story. So Patty was married to George Harrison
back in the day and Eric Clapton, yeah, he's married that.
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She was married to George Harrison from the Beatles when
he wrote Layla, which depending on which version you know,
I know, is that just Layla? The later version is, oh,
there's the unplugged one to that. Okay, that's what I'm
thinking of. Okay, okay, so you're thinking of the fast
year La, don't no no, But then the slower one,
unplugged was we're almost saying the same thing back, but
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in our minds we're doing it. Clapton Harrison remained good friends,
but Layla was about her, and Harrison even played at
their wedding in nineteen seventy nine. But I thought her
name was Patty, not like but you don't always put
the girls name because that writer's code. Eric and Patty
then divorced. In Patty Boyd, Recall recalled that Eric Clapton
was sitting around playing his guitar while I was trying
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on dresses upstairs. I was taking so long, and I
was panicking about my hair and my clothes everything. And
I came down downstairs expecting him to really berrate me,
and he said, listen to this. In the time she
had taken to get ready, Clapton had written this song
right here. Turn that up. It's just how he says it.
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It's because it's slow, because because if you would have
said it in normal in that if you asked me
like Green Day, all right, I said, yes, yes, you
look wonder boss. Let's go exactly. Yeah. A lot of
it's the tempo of the song. You want another one? Yes,
These are misunderstood songs that are associated with something completely
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different Bruce Springsteen, Born in the USA. Most people think
this song is about being super patriotic. Yeah, like I
was born in the USA, America. It's clear the opposite.
I'm gonna be honestly, I'd never really listen to these lyrics.
I mean, either all that here is born in the USA.
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And also I believe the album cover, if I'm right,
had America flag wrapped on his hands like a bandana
or one of the two. It's back pocket. Yeah, okay, Hey,
what was the cotillion? By the way, It's like a
French thing. So the cotillion is a dance at a
debutant ball debutant. Yeah, I guess it's the same thing.
They do it for their girls that are the right
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of passage. Creepiest thing you can say about. I think
that's what they said. I don't know, it's not my words. Um,
this song Born in the USA is really about casting
a critical and mournful eye on America and its involvement
in war. Bruce Proks is gonna be like, what is happening?
Sounds massive? Turn the turn of that for one second,
I wonder what will you pull up the lyrics? Read
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me the first verse. I'll read you some of this
about it here. It's one of the most interpreted misinterpreted
songs ever. Most people thought it was a patriotic song
about American pride, when it actually is shameful on how
America treated its Vietnam veterans. Springsteen considered it one of
his best songs, but it bothers him that it's so
widely misinterpreted. With the rhythm, the enthusiastic chorus, and patriotic
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album cover, it's easy to think, because you see all
that in your here to do to that it has
more to do with American pride than Vietnam shame. That's
what it says. Let's let's do the first lyrics here.
It's um born down in a dead man's town. The
first kick I took was when I hit the ground,
end up like a dog that's been be too much
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until you spend half your life just covering up. I
mean that verse alone just kind of says it. But
we don't hear anything except born in the USA. Here
we go. Here's another lyric. Come back home to the refinery.
Hiring man said, son, if it was up to me,
went down to see my v a man, he said, Son,
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don't you understand. I had a brother are at Keisan
fighting off viet Cong. They're still there, he's all gone.
He had a woman he loved in Saigon. I got
a picture of him and arms now and it goes on.
You're right, that's not a patriotic song, not at all.
But the choruses, that's crazy. I wonder who the first.
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I wonder whose idea it was would be like, hey,
it's fourth of July, guys, play the greatest American song,
Born in the USA. You can just tell we don't
listen to lyrics. No, we don't know, not just me
and you know, but the collective we of America. Springsteen
wrote about the problems that Vietnam veterans encounter when they
returned to America. Vietnam was the first war the US
didn't win, and while veterans of other wars received a
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heroes welcome, those who fought in Vietnam were mostly ignored
when they were turned back home. What year did that
come out? Eighties? Right? Yes, um, Born in the USA. Uh?
This dude who was going to make the movie Born
in the USA, but it was too associated with a song.
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Springste helped him out, providing the song Light of Day,
which became new to the movie. What movies you talking about? Oh,
the original title was Vietnam, and he sent Springsteen the
script for the movie called Born in the USA, about
a rock band struggling with life and religion, which gave
Bruce the idea for the new title. Anyway, it's just
it's not what it seems. This is the epitome of
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this subject. Like, no one thought that this song was
a protest song. If you hear thunder, it's because it's
thundering outside. We are in a storm. Dolly partons I
Will Always love You. It's not it's not about a bodyguard.
Well that's another misconception. Um. People you just think this
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is a breakup song, like I will Always love You
even though we're not together. I see that sec is
still a love song. But it's really a song about
Dolly's mentor and appreciated the time they worked together. She
we've heard this story from her, so it's well, it's
not a love song in the convention sense. So she
wrote her for a close friend or Wagner Porter, Wagner.
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There you go, I believe, so let me keep reading.
In nineteen sixty seven, she was invited by the country
star Porter Wagner to coast his TV show, where they
became famous for their duets, and as time, her enormous
talent eclipsed that of him, and she basically got bigger
and decided to jump off. And so she wrote the
song about the time they had together, and I Will
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Always Love You, not a love song about kissy, kissy,
but but a love song like hey, thanks, because they
weren't romantically involved, ye like I'll Always love you and
he and she said she just felt like she had
to leave, and he was like, okay, well, good luck,
because they thought he thought that they would just do
that forever them too. She said leaving Porter Wagner wasn't easy.
He thought she was making a big mistake and felt
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she was being disloyal. Dolly Parton played the song to
Wagner the morning after she wrote it as a way
of letting him know that her mind was made up
and to express how she felt about him. Apparently he
got the message across. She said that he was in
tears and called it the prettiest song ever her but
Allly down in nineteen seventy three, whenever they split. They
were together seven years on that show and just working together,
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and she wrote the song and stay here's how I feel.
I will always love you, but I gotta go. So
it is it guess in a sense of the breakup
song too, in a way quote but I gotta go?
It was It just wasn't about love. But again, it's
not like romantic love. It's not about romantic love or
romantic breakup. But it is about loving a breakup. But
we got it wrong and the bodyguard got it wrong too. Yeah,
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we refreshed my memory. What why why is that song
relevant in the movie in the Bodyguard, like they fall
in love with each other? Right spoiler alert. I don't know.
I've never seen a bodyguard. No, I just see Kevin
cost like jump out and take a bullet and then
he carries her off. So somebody dies, right, Like does
he carry her off? How does he take a bullet
and then he carries her off? I have no idea
how the bodyguard goes. I've never seen the bodyguard? All right, Well,
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they messed it up to It was the second of
five consecutive number one country hits that she had established.
And by the way, Dolly told us that she had
never heard the whitn in Houston VERSI until she was
driving in the road and roo car correct and she
was like she had a radio and I was like, whoa.
It was like a verbal agreement that she had. She
was like, yeah, whatever, and she'd forgotten all about that.
She said, yeah, they she can record it. And she
heard the final things like it's really good. That's what
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she said. Dust dude. Yeah, She's like, huh really good. Yeah.
You want to have your mind blown with another one.
Come on Closing Time by Semisonic. It's not about a
bar closing and you gotta go. It isn't it's not
even about something closed. You're lying. There's no way listen
to Hey, Mike, will you play this? From the very beginning,
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he even says like you don't have to go home,
but you can't stay here. That's what every bar says. Yeah,
I think they've taken it as their own. Whatever you're
about to say, I'm not gonna believe because the message
does fit the bar, but it also fits what I'm
about to tell you. Okay, just listen a bit, all right,
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So this is Semisonic Closing Time, not about a bar
closing or anything closing. He gotta go closing all the
doors and let you out into you. I hear it, Mike,
when I know what it's about closing talking about turn
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all over the lights on over every boy and every girl.
That's a bar, lights on, closing time, one last call
for out come on show whisky beer. It literally could
be a bar. Yeah it is. You don't have well,
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you put the lyrics up on the page. Stay here
to take me, okay, take it up the bar situation.
It is nice about childbirth? What the thing is the
whiskey and beer coming? Well, you like, look at the
lyrics here again. All right, closing time, time for you
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to go out into the world. Baby out of the womb.
U turn on the lights over every boy and every girl.
That's the baby's surgical room. Um. And then he put
a couple of lines in here to also make it. No,
so you can't throw a line in. You don't have
to be so literal with everything. Okay, So how is
the whiskey and beer going childbirth? Like it doesn't have
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it doesn't have to be literal. Bars picked it because
it was literal. Yeah, I mean, because that's what it is.
That's so the singer said, it's about the birth of
his daughter. When he wrote it, rather than write a
cheesy song that was so blatantly about birth, he hid
the songs real meaning. He said, the guys wanted a
new song to close our sets with, so I thought
closing time would be a good title. We had spent
seven years of our lives at that point, four nights
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week entertaining people. That was our lives. I started realizing
the whole thing was a pun about being born, so
I made sure the rest of the thing could ride
with that double meaning. But nobody got the joke, and
I didn't bother to explain to everybody would get it
because it's not an obvious joke. Yeah, it wasn't supposed
to be. It is had to be literal interesting, like
time for you to go back to the places you'll
be from. The room will be open till your brothers
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and sisters come. I hope you found a friend. Every
new beginning comes from some other beginnings in but you
die in childbirth or don't take the girl crossover, like
when Eric went to full House Stefan no, no, just
ye remember that. Um. He wrote the lyrics time for
you to go out to the places you will be
from to show the song's focus was actually on the
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miracle of childbirth rather than an ode to kicking late
night bar flies to the curb. He admitted that he
had babies on his mind part way through writing it.
He said, we were expecting our first kid at birth.
On the brain. It was struck, what a funny pun
it would be being bounced from the womb. And I
guess he wrote it by himself. Want Dan Wilson and
so much money. I mean, I'm not believe in the
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story the only writers. I feel like he's messing with us.
I feel like it's one of those things where like,
watch this, I'm gonna go to this interview, watch this,
I'm gonna get them real good. Whatever. Dude, there'll be
a hater because you never caught it. But now every
time you hear it, you'll know, Yeah, I'm gonna be
thinking of a baby. I mean, what's gonna do lyrics
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and about stirrups, yea, let's go. Lightning crashes on that one,
and again not so much about a baby being born.
He says, placenta falls exactly. You can't. It's like a
rebirth of life in general. In many ways, maybe I'm
just not that deep. Um every breath you take, by
the police, it's a love song. It's a stalker stalker song. Yeah,
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that just clicks. People usually think the songs about being
madly in love with someone, but it's really about a
guys talking your girl. Come on, we can't do that again.
A super misinterpreted song. An obsessive stalker that sounds like
a love song. Well, the obsessive person feels like their
own love and to them it's just love right, keeps
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talking to people don't know. I'm not. Some people use
it their wedding song. I'll say this too in this example.
In the other examples, a song is the message is
really what you make it, right, if you wanted to
use this as your wedding song, because you have a
different meaning, and that's totally music, yea literature music like
you can use it in the way that it affected you,
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So that'd be I'm not gonna kind of bag on
anybody for using it as a wedding song. Maybe they
just google it, maybe before google it. If you do
it now, that's on you, like all the informations out there,
and we're telling you right now. Um. Yes, some people
use it as UM again, their wedding song and first
dance song. The Police from man Sting wrote it after
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separating from his first wife Francis in three He said,
it's a nasty song, really rather evil. It's about jealousy
and surveillance and ownership. Regarding the common misinterpretation of the song,
he said, I think ambigue. It is intrinsic, however, treated
how you will. On one level, it's a nice ambiguity.
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You can't really tell. It's an honest question. By the way. Yeah,
people are a little too embarrassed. I admit they don't
know what words means. Because I'll read books. I like
read books, come across the word on what it means,
I'll just look it up. Yeah, and my wife, there's
a lot of words like them. I was like, what
does that mean? Um? In America, this is the biggest,
the biggest hit of nineteen three. It stayed number one
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for eight weeks, longer than Billy Jean longer. Yeah, there's
the biggest song of how hard he goes on that
last part. Every breath you take, every move you make,
every bond you break, every step you take, every game
you play, every night you stay it's so pissed. That's
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the point where it's like, and he wrote it by himself,
freaking Gordon Sumner. I had no idea that was real name.
Gordon Sumner reminds me of Gordon sum Way. New Gordon
Shumway is I don't know. Type in Gordon chum Way
and see it comes up. I love, I believe that's ALF.
I don't know. Again, I'm okay with asking a question here?
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What an ALF stand for? Right? It was like, yeah,
Gordon Shumway is, It's ALF. It is alf. ALF? Name
is Gordon? Do you know that? Funny myself? Lad, that's
a good Mike. We can play a game like that
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in the acron for alien life form. Yeah, man, freaking
Willie Tanner was the dead about I haven't either, but
freaking Gordon Shumway. That's awesome. That great Mike, Like said,
I happened to know Gordon, you know so much that
ran checked out? Yeah right, and that was it was
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so obscure that I wasn't better Google that. How sure
of that? Were you? Beast? I like, okay, good like,
I give it an on a roll shutness, But I
went straight to ALF. I wasn't a because that was
so long ago and it could have been mixed up
over the years. Yeah, ALF was cool because there was
the show I liked ALF the TV show that it
had a cartoon that was pretty good, and they developed
late and I talked show for it and and they
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did it like on Nick at Night. But it never
really blew up. I think they wanted to go network
with it at first. But yeah, alf ALF was done
um in the Air tonight by Phil Collins. I mean,
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now I'm starting to think this is definitely about global
warming in it. Ok. People usually think the song is
about Phil Collins seeing a man let another man drown.
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What was the lyric that made people think that? Mike, Oh,
that one. Well, if you told me you were drowning,
I would not lend a hand. I've seen your face before,
my friend, but I don't know if you know who
I am. Here you go, you face. So people thought
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this was about like like you and Semisonic. Very simple.
They thought it was about a bar, but no, it's not.
It's really a song with no meaning. I hate that
the myth that people believe Phil Collins wrote the song
after watching a man let someone else drown. It's a
big misinterpretation because Phil Collins says it's about nothing. He
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said the song was written without any specific meaning behind it.
He drew inspiration from his recent divorce at the time,
but most of the lyrics were improvised, but that didn't
stop people from spreading one of the most famous urban
legends in music history. The legend goes that Collins wrote
the song after watching a man let someone else drown,
which was lyric well, if you were drowning, I would
not lend a hand, and according to the myth, Collins
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later found the guilty man at a concert. There's different
versions of the story too, and all of them are nutty,
because when you have a song that means it means nothing,
you can do that, right, Yeah, you can just say
it's about whatever. One of the versions has a friend
of Phil Collins taken the place of the drowning man,
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and another has Collins refusing to rescue a drowning man
who raped his wife. They just got more absurd as
they go. Don't go, well, what's not true. Now that's
some fiction story right there. He came back and wrote
that song. No, no, no, no, it's not true. You're
missing the whole Why do well, that's kind of nothing.
That's kind of how we write songs at the big
into edio play chords or and I'll just start yelling
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a bunch of words to the melody and it's nothing, yes, improvised,
and then we kind of go back and adjusted to
make money out of it. Uh. Yeah. The myth has
submitted itself in popular culture and even was referenced in
Stand Eminem Stand. You might remember these lyrics right here
from Eminem standing. Go ahead. You know the song by
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Phil Collins in the Air of It Tonight about that
guy who could have said that other guy's drowning, but
the then feel so at all that at it, so
we found him. That's kind of how this is. Who
could arrescue me for drowning? Now it's too big, I'm
on a thousand downars now I'm drowsy. That one was allowed.
Why does Eminem say in the Air of the night,
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Because I'm about to say I thought the song was
called in the Air Tonight, But it's Stands saying it,
so it could have been like him just getting it wrong.
I thought I'd got a wrong all these years. It's
about to go, wow, breakthrough. I thought it was called
in the air tonight. That's crazy man. Yeah, but even
if even he had it wrong. Well standard One of
my favorite bands that no longer really is a relevant
band is r E M. Oh yeah, this one goes
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out to the one I Love. This one goes out
to another one of those songs. Well most pople things
a love song obviously because it's just one so literal,
like goes out to I Love like a request. Yeah,
that's really about using someone over and over again. It
was our first hit, by the way, this is the
first r M hit. This one goes out to the
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one I Love fire and it's wild that their first
hit was an eight seven. I wasn't listening to ori
M No. I was six or seven years old. But
there was that generational gap where like like my brother
he knew r M and then I liked r M
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the later r M. Yeah, when r M hit for me,
it was Losing My religion was the big video. Uh.
This was their first hit song. It's not a love song.
He describes this song. That's about how people use people
over and over and over again, and until this line
here a simple prop to occupy my time is the
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lyric that goes, that's what I'm showing. That's the one
that sets us straight right there. So what does he say? Fire?
And then what she's coming she's coming down mountain? When
she comes pretty lea? Oh I never I've never heard
that before the time. Listen, like, if you'll pause up
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for one second. So what they yell in the background
so faintly is fire and they go she's coming down
on her own. You'll hear it. Oh, let me see, Mike,
it's so faint. That's the first I've ever heard that. Okay,
we're gonna go back to the beginning of the song
and who Lazy Well here with's a new one fromorrow
them Rampant ramp thet years seven. You know, I don't
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I don't know. I don't know where it is. I
don't want to miss I don't know risk missing it. Wow,
I've never heard that part. So listen closely, turn it
up on the fire and Mike if you don't mind, alright, alright,
here you go go listen. First, she's coming down on
her own. Check it up? Can you hear it down?
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Alrightdous what goes She's coming down? Wow, dude, first start
ever heard that time? That we listen to this song
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thus it out. Damn wow, that's so cool. How about
this one Crash into Me by Dave Matthews. Oh my gosh, Okay,
So I think I know what this is about. There's
another stalker and you should know because you're a Big
Day fan, Huge Day and I love Dave. Now I
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mean frat girls, a sorority girls, frat guys like this
was their song. Like girls loved this song. And people
would think it's about a passionate love affair or a
love song. I got your skirt a little more your world.
To me, it's really about a next boyfriend peeping at
a woman from a window, because he does say that
in the verse, you've got your ball, you got it's hard.
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He goes right there, bones on the bottom. I'm watching
there your window and I stare and you wear nothing.
That's it. These lines give it away. I watch you
there through the window and I stare at you. You
wear nothing, but you wear it so well. What creepy huh?
That was written from the point of view from a
boyfriend who wants his girlfriend bag. I watch you there
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through the window, basically saying he's watching how beautiful she
is the song is about a boyeuristic man. Many people
conceive it as a love song and fail we'll see
the true meaning behind it. On Storyteller's Dave Matthews mentioned
that the song was written from a peeping tom perspective
and no one ever got that before. And if that's
not enough, he says, hike up your skirt a little
more to show your world to me. But again, if
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you're not being literal with it right, it could mean
anything like hig grops a little more shre world. It
could be like exposed me to different feelings and thoughts.
Skirt covers one thing, but the skirt of the world
could be a beef skirt could be a fahita. Um.
I remember when my brother learned this on guitar and
he was so proud and he's like, dude, singing you
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know all the words, and we sang it. We had
the whole family there and I was like, hack your
skirt more. My dad was like stop that, stop that
next song. So so even says I'm the King of
the Castle, you hear the dirty rascal m a scroll
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a little bit more. Mike, by the way, Day wrote
this song by himself. But what does that mean crashing
from you better by himself this people be making so
much money solo writing these songs by David John Matthews
Crash into me? What's he meaning? Like, Let's get our
worlds together? Like but again you put our worlds together?
(29:22):
Is also you can't mean anything. These guys are so artistic.
Slide by the Google Dolls wake up when you are
at all slide I have no clue. People usually think
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it's about being in love. It's really about unplanned pregnancy.
M hmm. The song is about dealing with an unplanned pregnancy,
with lyrics like I want to wake up where you
are or I'll do anything you ever dreamed to be complete.
It's understandable if you over look that as a song
that's about pregnancy. Um oh oh, he says I'm gonna yeah.
He does say I'm gonna let it slide. Does that
(30:07):
mean like, all right, I'll just let this one slide.
We got the baby, We're gonna We're gonna do this.
Listen to this lyrics don't you love the life you killed?
Meaning meaning like his, your priest is on the phone,
your father hit the wall, your mom disowned you. I'm
planning pregnancy, or maybe he's talking about her life like
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like he may have she may have killed her own
life by being pregnant, like like not literally, like figuratively,
like your life's over now you have to heise a kid.
The life you know you knew is done. Johnny Resnick
explained it during a storytellers slide is actually about these
two Catholic teenage kids and a girlfriend gets pregnant and
they're deciding whether they should get an abortion, or get
married or just go on. And I don't think a
lot of people get that. The singer described it as
(30:51):
a nuts so uh sad tale about some hard choices.
I think about that. It's pretty deep, yes, a little ditty.
We listened to all these songs not thinking about any
of this. American Pie by Don McClane. I can't remember.
You'll know what this is about. That's the it's the
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death of the plane crash part of it, right, you say,
you're right. Mostly it's it encapsulates that whole era, and
that's and that plane crash um the fifties, you're right,
and not even the year, but so much, but that
era and what kind of was the exclamation point on
the end of it was the plane crash with Richie
(31:34):
Vallen's the Big Bopper Buddy Holly, and it's reference in
the song. But um, I mean jam right, Jam sang,
this be the day that and the day that the
music died, literally is the day that that plane crashed
with all the music in it. But he said that
(31:56):
the lyrics were very ambiguous again, which means I know
what it means now, Like ambiguity means yeah, it's doesn't
make much sense. Can't tell really like you don't know
it could go by the way people ask me if
I left the lyrics open to ambiguity. Of course, I
didn't want to make a whole series of complex statements.
He put the song's original manuscript for auction at Christie's call.
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On the songs, I'm gonna guess it's he wrote about
himself too, these guys the six minute song, Mike is
it so so when he there are more people that
he's referencing, right, like when he says the Jester again,
I think it's just a time and characters, right, And
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I feel like these characters are just different artists. Well,
I never thought about that they were all specific artists,
Like I think the Jester maybe would be Bob Dylan.
You could be honest something. I don't know my goo
with that, the Jester and miss American Bob Dylan. Because
if you're right about that, you can ride about the
ones to Yeah, Jackie nimble Jack be quickbviously, John Lennon,
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John Jack huh, Don mc lean rod to buy himself. Oh,
speaking of John Lennon, Imagine, I mean, I mean we
all know what this is about, right, go ahead, Imagine
what the world would be like with without these certain things.
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Most people think that it's a song about peace and
global unity. Kind of what are you kind of because
he's just kind of saying, like, imagine if we didn't
have these people in power doing certain things religion, politics,
everything else, it's actually about WiFi dial up a o
(33:49):
L didn't even existed, you got me. That's funny. It's
uh more so because it's a slower tone. People think
it's super peaceful. It's not. It's like a song about
revolutionary ideas of how to achieve peace but doing it
through radical ways. But he was smart enough to go, well,
if I slow it down introdud as a ballad, people
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are gonna feel like I'm hugging the world more than
screaming it. Who does he say that, I'm I'm I'm not.
Why did he not say it like that? Because it's true?
And then us we're all like the slow song, so
I like it's the song is actually about the Communist manifesto.
And now I'm reading earlier that was just me amusing myself.
(34:33):
That's pretty good. Most people think that ballads The ballad
imagines about people putting us oide their differences, but it's
more political. According to Rolling Stone, he once described the
song as virtually the Communist manifesto. And even though I'm
not particularly a communist and not belong to any movement,
the song clearly asked the listener to imagine a world
without religion or possessions, but Linen admitted he intentionally admitted
(34:55):
he intentionally tried to sugarcoat his message. But the song,
the sweetness of the song like only it's like, oh imagine,
it's a big hit almost everywhere in a beautiful song
because it's anti religious, anti nationalistic, anti conventional, anti capitalistic,
and because it's well soften like honey. But this video
(35:22):
is so good too. The white piano uh Sarah McLaughlin angel. Yeah,
it's about puppies. Puppies h A right, Sarah, and for
the Low Low prize at you can help Sparky. Yeah,
(35:45):
I nor really has one eye, but you can help
that one eye. And it always airs like three in
the morning when everyone's drunk, like all right, here's my wallet,
this is for you, Sparkie. Oh grat what did I
do last night? Adopted thirty? Wait, what's the Sparky's new eye?
What the Sarah McLaughlin got me again. Um the song
(36:11):
most people think about angels and losing someone, it's really
about heroin addiction. Yeah, more specifically the guy from Smashing
Pumpkins who died. Really who was that? The keyboartist he
died And I'll read a quote. I went to a
cottage north of Montreal to relax and write. I read
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about the Smashing Pumpkins keyboard player who had oded in
a hotel room. She wrote this about a song about
the drug addict struggles with the world. The angel symbolizes
the drugs the addict gives into repeatedly in the arms
of an angel meaning the drugs. She said. The story
(36:53):
shook me because altho way I had never done drugs
like that. I felt a flood of empathy for him
and the feeling of being lost, lonely and desperately searching
for some kind of release, and that release with drugs or,
as some people would have it, their angel. Wow. Crazy, right,
people use this one in like funerals, right, sure, maybe
(37:17):
because angel is literally's taking the end the little interpretation
I've never heard in a funeral, but it would make sense. Wow,
this is I mean that changes this. I mean that
song is. This song has always been beautiful to me,
but it's always been like, I don't know it's about pretty,
but wow that I mean. I'm reading it now and like, yeah,
that's pretty deep. Spend all your time waiting for that
second chance, for a break that would make it okay.
(37:39):
There's always some reason to feel not good enough, and
it's hard at the end of the day. I need
some distraction. Oh, beautiful release, memory seep from my veins.
There's the hotel room too, and maybe empty I would
wait less and maybe I'll find some peace tonight. Wow.
(38:00):
Just a different feeling about it. When you know what
you're talking about, drug addiction and drugs from this dark hole.
You're right in the chorus in the arms of an Angel,
fly away from here from this dark, cold hotel room
and the endlessness you fear? Wow, Oh, another super sad one.
Do you think that one's gonna get you? Sarah McLaughlin
wrote that one on your own too. Maybe they're just
(38:23):
writing one person, but surely um the next one, don't
cry Hansen and Bob, Now what's this one about? What
do you think it's about? I have no idea tune Bob,
and now there's more in the verses that I don't
remember what they say. Most people think it's just to
catch pop song that really means nothing, not true. It's
(38:45):
really about how everything we love will be gone before
we know it. What does umbop have to do with that?
They made the word up, and it really isn't some
made up word. This It bop represents a frame of
mind and then bop They're gone like bop, It's gone,
like who was gone? Oh? Just like that? Yeah, okay,
(39:09):
because Bob's a word. The whole song is about the
fact that almost everything in your life will come and
go quickly. You gotta figure out what matters and grab
onto those things. Boy, they don't really love doing that song.
Though no, and then they do. They do, but they don't.
Like everyone has respect for that one song that did
it for them, but it's I mean, it's gonna be
(39:30):
hard when that's the one you sing all the time. Well,
they played our million Dollar Show, and I like those
guys and I know Tyler a bit, Taylor Taylor how
well I know Tyler and Jim And I was thinking
about having my phone as um because I don't want
to put up with Taylor Hanson. You want to see it,
Tyler Hanson, Tyler Hanson. It literally is so um. Taylor
(39:54):
had come and sat beside me and the seats of
the rheme and was like, hey, man, can we not
do him, Bob, We'd prefer to do this other song.
And that's a hard that's a hard question for you,
and it just comes right out to me and asked me.
And I respected that he asked me straight up and
just didn't get on and not play it. But at
the same time, everybody came to see Bob that was
(40:16):
coming to that show. Is that what you I was like, Man,
you can play whatever else you want, but you gotta
play them Bob, Like that's it again. You don't gotta.
I'm not gonna make you, but I can't sit here
and say, you know what, go ahead, do whatever you want.
Like everyone here wants you to play you in Bob,
so if I'm asking, please play Bob. And they did,
and everybody freaking jerked their phones out quicker than I've
(40:38):
seen almost anybody pull their phones to any artist. So
but and it's also super a kid. So I'm sure
they're adults and they have kids. They have probably kids
that are close enough there, so we'll be like writing
a song when you're fourteen and having to sing it
when you're thirty and over. I remember when they committed
and you told me. They're like, oh, they're gonna do
the show, and I'm like, oh great, so we might
(40:59):
have to learn hum Bob. And I looked over the
oom Bob. I'm like, I'm never gonna memorize that. Ever.
You have a favorite hands and song that oom Bob?
No no, no, I like, oh, there's another one that
I really like. It's about a girl. Maybe that Penny
and Me is a good one. Any he was really good.
Did they do that on our show? Maybe? I think
(41:19):
they did so good? Um, will you pull up the
hands and playlist Mike Penny and he's a jam. My
favorite is I Will come to you. Whoa, They're so
good they are it's challenged. Will you play it from
(41:43):
the beginning? Will you play I will come Mimacum, it's
to you. I will come to you. I will come
to you. When' that you know this one? This is
deep cut. This is the hands and deep cut. Nope,
(42:03):
you have to go and come to you. Come on, jam,
(42:23):
I will come to you. I will come to you.
Um your dreams. Well, I believe that does it for
today's show man. It's funny how you said, like a
lot of these stories came out of like storytellers and
didn't bring storytellers back with like Ariana Grande and be like, Ariana,
(42:47):
what is the when you say you like my hair
just bought it? What do you mean by that? Like?
You know, Storytellers was huge to us and we learned
so much. And she'll be like, well, how was it
done with thirteen people? Actually I wasn't even there and
we were just thrown out words. Of course, we made
a melody. They gave us the beat and we went
do do and then we had to fit words over
(43:08):
and those two things haven't a fit because I remember
learning that like Pearl jam Eddie Vetter wrote like Betterman
or something fifteen years before the band even got together.
Oh yeah yeah, and they we're learned that from storytellers.
Well it's like County Crows when they were the himalay Is.
I didn't know that. Hey we look up that again.
I could miss this up there. His band was the Himalayas. Oh,
(43:32):
it could have been a different mountain range. It's been
o was it everest? Let's see because the last thing
I wanted to leave something up here. That's wrong. But
but some of those songs were even on that record,
the first record, The County Crows, Berkeley, California. First name
now type in um County Crows, um original band. There
(43:59):
is there is the himalay Is. Round here was the
Himalays round here? No way? Yeah, American rock band between
they're best known for starting their career this is that's
the base. This is the himalay Is doing round here. Wow,
that's I mean, that's a different sound for sure. Yeah.
So again they had written that song and cut it
(44:22):
on there. We can do it. We can do a
whole Bobby cast on this on bands that were before
the band. We just break down all of that Storytellers
Live CD. Hey, um, you know it would be fun
at this point because Adam Durrett's used to be really famous.
(44:42):
At this point, I could probably it on pretty easily.
This is it the front door? Not so? The melody
is the same, is never the same? Get a better view?
Crumb also wrong and right to right myself and back again,
(45:11):
less whiny, I don't know. Wow, good call. Yeah, who
she's dying is a different debate. Yes, why that's just
the baseline like litt Bisuku like to lit biscuit baseline,
This wouldn't admit it heavy Electra that you're right. It
(45:36):
does sound like a different band of blue like those
horns when bis get that era that yeah, all right, alright,
that you taught me. That's one I didn't know. That
is no clue and that was a Ryan knew it.
So stuff just sits back here sometimes and I'll just
go oh, like my initial reactions to yell at out,
it matches a lot of like Gordon, like freaking Gordon
(45:57):
sway some way, Mike, look that up right by the way,
A big shout out to Mike, do who produced this
entire episode, all the clips and tons of research. So
thanks to him. Is your family here? I have no
idea my phone, but it's raining, so they can't be
at the pool. I have no out check right now.
(46:19):
They're probably down watching TV the snacks. I'm started watching
the show called The Boys on Amazon. It's about it's
a superhero show, but it's like real life, meaning as
reel life as you can be. It's like these people
are superheroes, but it's like the real problems have real
like like addiction, um, like sex stuff, and they live
(46:40):
on Earth. Wow, that sounds good. It's really good. Like
you're watching it one season? Yeah, it's eight episodes. And
if you have this is not a commercial. By the way, No,
I have Amazon. If you have Amazon Prime and you
order stuff, you get all the shows too, which I
didn't know for a long time. I had to buy
a second separate descriptions. No way. But it also comes
with a lot of other stuff that you didn't know
you had, like TV stuff like golf tournaments. They're all
(47:01):
on there for free. For for my gambling. You know,
if you like golf, like basketball games that you normally
wouldn't find. They're on there, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna
go play racquetball with Amy's husband. The big debate was
while I win, yes, you say yes? I think you
will because because he's good. He's a bigger guy and
I feel like he's stronger than you. But racketball is
(47:22):
about but he's a bigger guy and not fat. He's no,
he's pretty in shape though. He flew us this week
and he had a tucked in shirt and he did
he looks good. Yeah, he looks good, but I don't.
He doesn't write like like you do the peloton bike
like mccardio. But it's more than just running. Yeah, it's fast,
that's mostly what racketball is, back and forth? Do you
know you gotta be able to hit it? Though he
(47:42):
mostly Eddie's given me his prognostication on rack. I feel
like I could give you a good running back of ball.
There is no way like, not like unless you've played those.
And it's not even my athletic prowess. It's playing the
angles off the walls all the time. I know many,
I'm gonna play the game. Cool, cool, Bobby, see that
it would you do ten bucks at four to one
odds meaning you would win ten dollars, but you would
(48:05):
lose forty I would correct, but if you bet on me,
you can win a lot more than that, but you
would lose ten. Win for it. Thanks Mike appreciated that.
Check out The Sore Losers That's Eddie lunch Box and
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Check out The Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson's The Lifestyle
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(48:28):
living your your best mid twenties and mid thirties life.
Um Also check out Caroline hobbies podcast called Get Real,
where she talks with a lot of the wives of
country music superstars and just really strong women in the business.
By the way, I don't know if it's up yet,
but Chris Daughtry's wife, Uh so she had a girlfriend
while her and Chris were together. Open. Really they're married
(48:49):
and she had a real life, open relationship. Talks about
this on the fun Is it up yet? It'll be
up tomorrow so you're by the time you heard this.
Got Get Real with Caroline Hobby and is that Mike Deed?
Is it about to bring on another podcast? I'll tell
who does all the year. But somebody really funny. Really yeah,
you were saying you have a meeting with someone? We did.
It was him and his two managers. Manager very cool,
(49:12):
all right, all right, thank you guys, and we'll see
you next time here. Anything you want to say, Oh man,
thanks for having me. It's fun. Who's your favorite band
of all the bands? Who's your favorite band that morphed
into County Crows the only one that's right? Am I
missing anyone? And what is the term for amb ambiguity?
Can't tell? It could be either ambiguity, Well, that's so
(49:35):
ambiguous if something's ambiguous, but a form of that would
be and it's ambiguity ambiguity. And when his alphabal name
Gordon Lightfoot, it's hardest, all right, by everybody,
Welcome to episode Famous Songs with Misunderstood Meanings And at
my house to do the podcast today, and I feel
like it's a Sunday and you really wouldn't be working.
But because I have a pool, I'm here and you
(00:22):
could use the kids could use the pool. Yeah, it
worked out wonderfully. It worked out great. Actually, so you
be you don't buy about twenty minutes, yes, because it's
it's becoming a thing now to leave the house at
the same time. If I want to be somewhere on time,
we've got to separate. Oh so you can't get out
on time with all four of the we tried. That
was the goal to all get here at the same time.
I'm like, all right, I gotta go see there. So
(00:43):
what if they get here a while you're up here,
to go straight to the back? Okay? Cool? Right? Yeah,
to have them to go to that back like they
know it. Yeah, I think so the two main doors,
don't If not, screw it, man, then figure it out. Yeah,
but that's Eddie. And so we were talking about doing
this Bobby cast because we haven't done one, and people
like these a lot more than I thought that, not
(01:04):
that I I didn't think they would. It's just that
we geek out a lot over music, and I didn't
think a lot of people like that. I think they
just like you. Oh cool Eddie from the Sore Losers podcast,
which I encourage you to check out if you like
sports or or a guy talk. Do you guys talk
about farts a lot or not? No? No? I mean
sometimes we do. Yeah. Sometimes we talk about like hooking
(01:25):
up more than we should because past hookups and like
what girls like that kind of stuff, And it's just
like we shouldn't talk about all that. Let's just move on.
At Home run last night. Check out the Sore Losers podcast. Um,
but we're gonna do famous songs with misunderstood meanings. I'm
trying to think of this well. And this is where
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it all came from, because on the show recently, I
was talking about this song right here, Wonderful Tonight by
Eric Clapton, And people usually think this song is a
love song, correct, straight up loves song. Yes, because he's like, yes,
you look wonderful. People dance their first dance. They play
(02:10):
it in romantic scenes of movies because again, most people
feel it's a love song. But what it's really about
is waiting for his girlfriend to get ready, like hurry up. Yeah,
like hey, yeah, you look great, Let's go and again,
lots of proms. Yeah. Do you know what cartillian is?
Let me see cartillion. It's got to be a rich
person thing. Okay, cartillion? Is it the white person version
(02:35):
of a um kenana or a I think that's what
I don't I don't know. I mean, I'm a Mexican.
I would assume that it's this. It's that right, right?
What is that? Write? A package of passage where like
a girl turns into a woman. Is that? You know
(02:56):
how you feel uncomfortable talking about I don't like talking
about girls running into women, But I think that's what
it was. Mike, Will you look up a cotillion? Because
I was a little span of guy in South Texas
and there was a group of white people that had
cotillion and I got asked to cotillion by by one
of these girls. What was your age? We were juniors
in high school, so seventeen, okay, so maybe a little
(03:16):
older than yeah. And so this I remember this song
was our first dance because we got there and we're
hanging out whatever, and this song came on and she
was like this is a nice one. I liked this
and let's dance to it. But this always reminds me
of that Cotillion. I still don't even know what that is.
The song gets used a lot of problems and weddings,
but Eric Clapton wrote Wonderful Tonight in nineteen seventy six
while waiting for his girlfriend and future wife, Patty to
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get ready for a night out. They were going to
a Buddy Holly tribute to Paul McCartney put together, and
Clapton was in the position that he was used to
of waiting while she tried on clothes. We've all been there,
like many of us. Do you know the pat the
George Harrison story. So Patty was married to George Harrison
back in the day and Eric Clapton, yeah, he's married that.
(04:03):
She was married to George Harrison from the Beatles when
he wrote Layla, which depending on which version you know,
I know, is that just Layla? The later version is, oh,
there's the unplugged one to that. Okay, that's what I'm
thinking of. Okay, okay, so you're thinking of the fast
year La, don't no no, But then the slower one,
unplugged was we're almost saying the same thing back, but
(04:28):
in our minds we're doing it. Clapton Harrison remained good friends,
but Layla was about her, and Harrison even played at
their wedding in nineteen seventy nine. But I thought her
name was Patty, not like but you don't always put
the girls name because that writer's code. Eric and Patty
then divorced. In Patty Boyd, Recall recalled that Eric Clapton
was sitting around playing his guitar while I was trying
(04:49):
on dresses upstairs. I was taking so long, and I
was panicking about my hair and my clothes everything. And
I came down downstairs expecting him to really berrate me,
and he said, listen to this. In the time she
had taken to get ready, Clapton had written this song
right here. Turn that up. It's just how he says it.
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It's because it's slow, because because if you would have
said it in normal in that if you asked me
like Green Day, all right, I said, yes, yes, you
look wonder boss. Let's go exactly. Yeah. A lot of
it's the tempo of the song. You want another one? Yes,
These are misunderstood songs that are associated with something completely
(05:43):
different Bruce Springsteen, Born in the USA. Most people think
this song is about being super patriotic. Yeah, like I
was born in the USA, America. It's clear the opposite.
I'm gonna be honestly, I'd never really listen to these lyrics.
I mean, either all that here is born in the USA.
(06:05):
And also I believe the album cover, if I'm right,
had America flag wrapped on his hands like a bandana
or one of the two. It's back pocket. Yeah, okay, Hey,
what was the cotillion? By the way, It's like a
French thing. So the cotillion is a dance at a
debutant ball debutant. Yeah, I guess it's the same thing.
They do it for their girls that are the right
(06:26):
of passage. Creepiest thing you can say about. I think
that's what they said. I don't know, it's not my words. Um,
this song Born in the USA is really about casting
a critical and mournful eye on America and its involvement
in war. Bruce Proks is gonna be like, what is happening?
Sounds massive? Turn the turn of that for one second,
I wonder what will you pull up the lyrics? Read
(06:51):
me the first verse. I'll read you some of this
about it here. It's one of the most interpreted misinterpreted
songs ever. Most people thought it was a patriotic song
about American pride, when it actually is shameful on how
America treated its Vietnam veterans. Springsteen considered it one of
his best songs, but it bothers him that it's so
widely misinterpreted. With the rhythm, the enthusiastic chorus, and patriotic
(07:14):
album cover, it's easy to think, because you see all
that in your here to do to that it has
more to do with American pride than Vietnam shame. That's
what it says. Let's let's do the first lyrics here.
It's um born down in a dead man's town. The
first kick I took was when I hit the ground,
end up like a dog that's been be too much
(07:35):
until you spend half your life just covering up. I
mean that verse alone just kind of says it. But
we don't hear anything except born in the USA. Here
we go. Here's another lyric. Come back home to the refinery.
Hiring man said, son, if it was up to me,
went down to see my v a man, he said, Son,
(07:57):
don't you understand. I had a brother are at Keisan
fighting off viet Cong. They're still there, he's all gone.
He had a woman he loved in Saigon. I got
a picture of him and arms now and it goes on.
You're right, that's not a patriotic song, not at all.
But the choruses, that's crazy. I wonder who the first.
(08:19):
I wonder whose idea it was would be like, hey,
it's fourth of July, guys, play the greatest American song,
Born in the USA. You can just tell we don't
listen to lyrics. No, we don't know, not just me
and you know, but the collective we of America. Springsteen
wrote about the problems that Vietnam veterans encounter when they
returned to America. Vietnam was the first war the US
didn't win, and while veterans of other wars received a
(08:41):
heroes welcome, those who fought in Vietnam were mostly ignored
when they were turned back home. What year did that
come out? Eighties? Right? Yes, um, Born in the USA. Uh?
This dude who was going to make the movie Born
in the USA, but it was too associated with a song.
(09:02):
Springste helped him out, providing the song Light of Day,
which became new to the movie. What movies you talking about? Oh,
the original title was Vietnam, and he sent Springsteen the
script for the movie called Born in the USA, about
a rock band struggling with life and religion, which gave
Bruce the idea for the new title. Anyway, it's just
it's not what it seems. This is the epitome of
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this subject. Like, no one thought that this song was
a protest song. If you hear thunder, it's because it's
thundering outside. We are in a storm. Dolly partons I
Will Always love You. It's not it's not about a bodyguard.
Well that's another misconception. Um. People you just think this
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is a breakup song, like I will Always love You
even though we're not together. I see that sec is
still a love song. But it's really a song about
Dolly's mentor and appreciated the time they worked together. She
we've heard this story from her, so it's well, it's
not a love song in the convention sense. So she
wrote her for a close friend or Wagner Porter, Wagner.
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There you go, I believe, so let me keep reading.
In nineteen sixty seven, she was invited by the country
star Porter Wagner to coast his TV show, where they
became famous for their duets, and as time, her enormous
talent eclipsed that of him, and she basically got bigger
and decided to jump off. And so she wrote the
song about the time they had together, and I Will
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Always Love You, not a love song about kissy, kissy,
but but a love song like hey, thanks, because they
weren't romantically involved, ye like I'll Always love you and
he and she said she just felt like she had
to leave, and he was like, okay, well, good luck,
because they thought he thought that they would just do
that forever them too. She said leaving Porter Wagner wasn't easy.
He thought she was making a big mistake and felt
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she was being disloyal. Dolly Parton played the song to
Wagner the morning after she wrote it as a way
of letting him know that her mind was made up
and to express how she felt about him. Apparently he
got the message across. She said that he was in
tears and called it the prettiest song ever her but
Allly down in nineteen seventy three, whenever they split. They
were together seven years on that show and just working together,
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and she wrote the song and stay here's how I feel.
I will always love you, but I gotta go. So
it is it guess in a sense of the breakup
song too, in a way quote but I gotta go?
It was It just wasn't about love. But again, it's
not like romantic love. It's not about romantic love or
romantic breakup. But it is about loving a breakup. But
we got it wrong and the bodyguard got it wrong too. Yeah,
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we refreshed my memory. What why why is that song
relevant in the movie in the Bodyguard, like they fall
in love with each other? Right spoiler alert. I don't know.
I've never seen a bodyguard. No, I just see Kevin
cost like jump out and take a bullet and then
he carries her off. So somebody dies, right, Like does
he carry her off? How does he take a bullet
and then he carries her off? I have no idea
how the bodyguard goes. I've never seen the bodyguard? All right, Well,
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they messed it up to It was the second of
five consecutive number one country hits that she had established.
And by the way, Dolly told us that she had
never heard the whitn in Houston VERSI until she was
driving in the road and roo car correct and she
was like she had a radio and I was like, whoa.
It was like a verbal agreement that she had. She
was like, yeah, whatever, and she'd forgotten all about that.
She said, yeah, they she can record it. And she
heard the final things like it's really good. That's what
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she said. Dust dude. Yeah, She's like, huh really good. Yeah.
You want to have your mind blown with another one.
Come on Closing Time by Semisonic. It's not about a
bar closing and you gotta go. It isn't it's not
even about something closed. You're lying. There's no way listen
to Hey, Mike, will you play this? From the very beginning,
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he even says like you don't have to go home,
but you can't stay here. That's what every bar says. Yeah,
I think they've taken it as their own. Whatever you're
about to say, I'm not gonna believe because the message
does fit the bar, but it also fits what I'm
about to tell you. Okay, just listen a bit, all right,
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So this is Semisonic Closing Time, not about a bar
closing or anything closing. He gotta go closing all the
doors and let you out into you. I hear it, Mike,
when I know what it's about closing talking about turn
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all over the lights on over every boy and every girl.
That's a bar, lights on, closing time, one last call
for out come on show whisky beer. It literally could
be a bar. Yeah it is. You don't have well,
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you put the lyrics up on the page. Stay here
to take me, okay, take it up the bar situation.
It is nice about childbirth? What the thing is the
whiskey and beer coming? Well, you like, look at the
lyrics here again. All right, closing time, time for you
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to go out into the world. Baby out of the womb.
U turn on the lights over every boy and every girl.
That's the baby's surgical room. Um. And then he put
a couple of lines in here to also make it. No,
so you can't throw a line in. You don't have
to be so literal with everything. Okay, So how is
the whiskey and beer going childbirth? Like it doesn't have
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it doesn't have to be literal. Bars picked it because
it was literal. Yeah, I mean, because that's what it is.
That's so the singer said, it's about the birth of
his daughter. When he wrote it, rather than write a
cheesy song that was so blatantly about birth, he hid
the songs real meaning. He said, the guys wanted a
new song to close our sets with, so I thought
closing time would be a good title. We had spent
seven years of our lives at that point, four nights
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week entertaining people. That was our lives. I started realizing
the whole thing was a pun about being born, so
I made sure the rest of the thing could ride
with that double meaning. But nobody got the joke, and
I didn't bother to explain to everybody would get it
because it's not an obvious joke. Yeah, it wasn't supposed
to be. It is had to be literal interesting, like
time for you to go back to the places you'll
be from. The room will be open till your brothers
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and sisters come. I hope you found a friend. Every
new beginning comes from some other beginnings in but you
die in childbirth or don't take the girl crossover, like
when Eric went to full House Stefan no, no, just
ye remember that. Um. He wrote the lyrics time for
you to go out to the places you will be
from to show the song's focus was actually on the
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miracle of childbirth rather than an ode to kicking late
night bar flies to the curb. He admitted that he
had babies on his mind part way through writing it.
He said, we were expecting our first kid at birth.
On the brain. It was struck, what a funny pun
it would be being bounced from the womb. And I
guess he wrote it by himself. Want Dan Wilson and
so much money. I mean, I'm not believe in the
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story the only writers. I feel like he's messing with us.
I feel like it's one of those things where like,
watch this, I'm gonna go to this interview, watch this,
I'm gonna get them real good. Whatever. Dude, there'll be
a hater because you never caught it. But now every
time you hear it, you'll know, Yeah, I'm gonna be
thinking of a baby. I mean, what's gonna do lyrics
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and about stirrups, yea, let's go. Lightning crashes on that one,
and again not so much about a baby being born.
He says, placenta falls exactly. You can't. It's like a
rebirth of life in general. In many ways, maybe I'm
just not that deep. Um every breath you take, by
the police, it's a love song. It's a stalker stalker song. Yeah,
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that just clicks. People usually think the songs about being
madly in love with someone, but it's really about a
guys talking your girl. Come on, we can't do that again.
A super misinterpreted song. An obsessive stalker that sounds like
a love song. Well, the obsessive person feels like their
own love and to them it's just love right, keeps
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talking to people don't know. I'm not. Some people use
it their wedding song. I'll say this too in this example.
In the other examples, a song is the message is
really what you make it, right, if you wanted to
use this as your wedding song, because you have a
different meaning, and that's totally music, yea literature music like
you can use it in the way that it affected you,
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So that'd be I'm not gonna kind of bag on
anybody for using it as a wedding song. Maybe they
just google it, maybe before google it. If you do
it now, that's on you, like all the informations out there,
and we're telling you right now. Um. Yes, some people
use it as UM again, their wedding song and first
dance song. The Police from man Sting wrote it after
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separating from his first wife Francis in three He said,
it's a nasty song, really rather evil. It's about jealousy
and surveillance and ownership. Regarding the common misinterpretation of the song,
he said, I think ambigue. It is intrinsic, however, treated
how you will. On one level, it's a nice ambiguity.
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You can't really tell. It's an honest question. By the way. Yeah,
people are a little too embarrassed. I admit they don't
know what words means. Because I'll read books. I like
read books, come across the word on what it means,
I'll just look it up. Yeah, and my wife, there's
a lot of words like them. I was like, what
does that mean? Um? In America, this is the biggest,
the biggest hit of nineteen three. It stayed number one
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for eight weeks, longer than Billy Jean longer. Yeah, there's
the biggest song of how hard he goes on that
last part. Every breath you take, every move you make,
every bond you break, every step you take, every game
you play, every night you stay it's so pissed. That's
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the point where it's like, and he wrote it by himself,
freaking Gordon Sumner. I had no idea that was real name.
Gordon Sumner reminds me of Gordon sum Way. New Gordon
Shumway is I don't know. Type in Gordon chum Way
and see it comes up. I love, I believe that's ALF.
I don't know. Again, I'm okay with asking a question here?
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What an ALF stand for? Right? It was like, yeah,
Gordon Shumway is, It's ALF. It is alf. ALF? Name
is Gordon? Do you know that? Funny myself? Lad, that's
a good Mike. We can play a game like that
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in the acron for alien life form. Yeah, man, freaking
Willie Tanner was the dead about I haven't either, but
freaking Gordon Shumway. That's awesome. That great Mike, Like said,
I happened to know Gordon, you know so much that
ran checked out? Yeah right, and that was it was
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so obscure that I wasn't better Google that. How sure
of that? Were you? Beast? I like, okay, good like,
I give it an on a roll shutness, But I
went straight to ALF. I wasn't a because that was
so long ago and it could have been mixed up
over the years. Yeah, ALF was cool because there was
the show I liked ALF the TV show that it
had a cartoon that was pretty good, and they developed
late and I talked show for it and and they
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did it like on Nick at Night. But it never
really blew up. I think they wanted to go network
with it at first. But yeah, alf ALF was done
um in the Air tonight by Phil Collins. I mean,
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now I'm starting to think this is definitely about global
warming in it. Ok. People usually think the song is
about Phil Collins seeing a man let another man drown.
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What was the lyric that made people think that? Mike, Oh,
that one. Well, if you told me you were drowning,
I would not lend a hand. I've seen your face before,
my friend, but I don't know if you know who
I am. Here you go, you face. So people thought
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this was about like like you and Semisonic. Very simple.
They thought it was about a bar, but no, it's not.
It's really a song with no meaning. I hate that
the myth that people believe Phil Collins wrote the song
after watching a man let someone else drown. It's a
big misinterpretation because Phil Collins says it's about nothing. He
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said the song was written without any specific meaning behind it.
He drew inspiration from his recent divorce at the time,
but most of the lyrics were improvised, but that didn't
stop people from spreading one of the most famous urban
legends in music history. The legend goes that Collins wrote
the song after watching a man let someone else drown,
which was lyric well, if you were drowning, I would
not lend a hand, and according to the myth, Collins
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later found the guilty man at a concert. There's different
versions of the story too, and all of them are nutty,
because when you have a song that means it means nothing,
you can do that, right, Yeah, you can just say
it's about whatever. One of the versions has a friend
of Phil Collins taken the place of the drowning man,
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and another has Collins refusing to rescue a drowning man
who raped his wife. They just got more absurd as
they go. Don't go, well, what's not true. Now that's
some fiction story right there. He came back and wrote
that song. No, no, no, no, it's not true. You're
missing the whole Why do well, that's kind of nothing.
That's kind of how we write songs at the big
into edio play chords or and I'll just start yelling
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a bunch of words to the melody and it's nothing, yes, improvised,
and then we kind of go back and adjusted to
make money out of it. Uh. Yeah. The myth has
submitted itself in popular culture and even was referenced in
Stand Eminem Stand. You might remember these lyrics right here
from Eminem standing. Go ahead. You know the song by
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Phil Collins in the Air of It Tonight about that
guy who could have said that other guy's drowning, but
the then feel so at all that at it, so
we found him. That's kind of how this is. Who
could arrescue me for drowning? Now it's too big, I'm
on a thousand downars now I'm drowsy. That one was allowed.
Why does Eminem say in the Air of the night,
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Because I'm about to say I thought the song was
called in the Air Tonight, But it's Stands saying it,
so it could have been like him just getting it wrong.
I thought I'd got a wrong all these years. It's
about to go, wow, breakthrough. I thought it was called
in the air tonight. That's crazy man. Yeah, but even
if even he had it wrong. Well standard One of
my favorite bands that no longer really is a relevant
band is r E M. Oh yeah, this one goes
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out to the one I Love. This one goes out
to another one of those songs. Well most pople things
a love song obviously because it's just one so literal,
like goes out to I Love like a request. Yeah,
that's really about using someone over and over again. It
was our first hit, by the way, this is the
first r M hit. This one goes out to the
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one I Love fire and it's wild that their first
hit was an eight seven. I wasn't listening to ori
M No. I was six or seven years old. But
there was that generational gap where like like my brother
he knew r M and then I liked r M
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the later r M. Yeah, when r M hit for me,
it was Losing My religion was the big video. Uh.
This was their first hit song. It's not a love song.
He describes this song. That's about how people use people
over and over and over again, and until this line
here a simple prop to occupy my time is the
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lyric that goes, that's what I'm showing. That's the one
that sets us straight right there. So what does he say? Fire?
And then what she's coming she's coming down mountain? When
she comes pretty lea? Oh I never I've never heard
that before the time. Listen, like, if you'll pause up
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for one second. So what they yell in the background
so faintly is fire and they go she's coming down
on her own. You'll hear it. Oh, let me see, Mike,
it's so faint. That's the first I've ever heard that. Okay,
we're gonna go back to the beginning of the song
and who Lazy Well here with's a new one fromorrow
them Rampant ramp thet years seven. You know, I don't
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I don't know. I don't know where it is. I
don't want to miss I don't know risk missing it. Wow,
I've never heard that part. So listen closely, turn it
up on the fire and Mike if you don't mind, alright, alright,
here you go go listen. First, she's coming down on
her own. Check it up? Can you hear it down?
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Alrightdous what goes She's coming down? Wow, dude, first start
ever heard that time? That we listen to this song
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thus it out. Damn wow, that's so cool. How about
this one Crash into Me by Dave Matthews. Oh my gosh, Okay,
So I think I know what this is about. There's
another stalker and you should know because you're a Big
Day fan, Huge Day and I love Dave. Now I
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mean frat girls, a sorority girls, frat guys like this
was their song. Like girls loved this song. And people
would think it's about a passionate love affair or a
love song. I got your skirt a little more your world.
To me, it's really about a next boyfriend peeping at
a woman from a window, because he does say that
in the verse, you've got your ball, you got it's hard.
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He goes right there, bones on the bottom. I'm watching
there your window and I stare and you wear nothing.
That's it. These lines give it away. I watch you
there through the window and I stare at you. You
wear nothing, but you wear it so well. What creepy huh?
That was written from the point of view from a
boyfriend who wants his girlfriend bag. I watch you there
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through the window, basically saying he's watching how beautiful she
is the song is about a boyeuristic man. Many people
conceive it as a love song and fail we'll see
the true meaning behind it. On Storyteller's Dave Matthews mentioned
that the song was written from a peeping tom perspective
and no one ever got that before. And if that's
not enough, he says, hike up your skirt a little
more to show your world to me. But again, if
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you're not being literal with it right, it could mean
anything like hig grops a little more shre world. It
could be like exposed me to different feelings and thoughts.
Skirt covers one thing, but the skirt of the world
could be a beef skirt could be a fahita. Um.
I remember when my brother learned this on guitar and
he was so proud and he's like, dude, singing you
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know all the words, and we sang it. We had
the whole family there and I was like, hack your
skirt more. My dad was like stop that, stop that
next song. So so even says I'm the King of
the Castle, you hear the dirty rascal m a scroll
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a little bit more. Mike, by the way, Day wrote
this song by himself. But what does that mean crashing
from you better by himself this people be making so
much money solo writing these songs by David John Matthews
Crash into me? What's he meaning? Like, Let's get our
worlds together? Like but again you put our worlds together?
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Is also you can't mean anything. These guys are so artistic.
Slide by the Google Dolls wake up when you are
at all slide I have no clue. People usually think
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it's about being in love. It's really about unplanned pregnancy.
M hmm. The song is about dealing with an unplanned pregnancy,
with lyrics like I want to wake up where you
are or I'll do anything you ever dreamed to be complete.
It's understandable if you over look that as a song
that's about pregnancy. Um oh oh, he says I'm gonna yeah.
He does say I'm gonna let it slide. Does that
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mean like, all right, I'll just let this one slide.
We got the baby, We're gonna We're gonna do this.
Listen to this lyrics don't you love the life you killed?
Meaning meaning like his, your priest is on the phone,
your father hit the wall, your mom disowned you. I'm
planning pregnancy, or maybe he's talking about her life like
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like he may have she may have killed her own
life by being pregnant, like like not literally, like figuratively,
like your life's over now you have to heise a kid.
The life you know you knew is done. Johnny Resnick
explained it during a storytellers slide is actually about these
two Catholic teenage kids and a girlfriend gets pregnant and
they're deciding whether they should get an abortion, or get
married or just go on. And I don't think a
lot of people get that. The singer described it as
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a nuts so uh sad tale about some hard choices.
I think about that. It's pretty deep, yes, a little ditty.
We listened to all these songs not thinking about any
of this. American Pie by Don McClane. I can't remember.
You'll know what this is about. That's the it's the
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death of the plane crash part of it, right, you say,
you're right. Mostly it's it encapsulates that whole era, and
that's and that plane crash um the fifties, you're right,
and not even the year, but so much, but that
era and what kind of was the exclamation point on
the end of it was the plane crash with Richie
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Vallen's the Big Bopper Buddy Holly, and it's reference in
the song. But um, I mean jam right, Jam sang,
this be the day that and the day that the
music died, literally is the day that that plane crashed
with all the music in it. But he said that
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the lyrics were very ambiguous again, which means I know
what it means now, Like ambiguity means yeah, it's doesn't
make much sense. Can't tell really like you don't know
it could go by the way people ask me if
I left the lyrics open to ambiguity. Of course, I
didn't want to make a whole series of complex statements.
He put the song's original manuscript for auction at Christie's call.
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On the songs, I'm gonna guess it's he wrote about
himself too, these guys the six minute song, Mike is
it so so when he there are more people that
he's referencing, right, like when he says the Jester again,
I think it's just a time and characters, right, And
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I feel like these characters are just different artists. Well,
I never thought about that they were all specific artists,
Like I think the Jester maybe would be Bob Dylan.
You could be honest something. I don't know my goo
with that, the Jester and miss American Bob Dylan. Because
if you're right about that, you can ride about the
ones to Yeah, Jackie nimble Jack be quickbviously, John Lennon,
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John Jack huh, Don mc lean rod to buy himself. Oh,
speaking of John Lennon, Imagine, I mean, I mean we
all know what this is about, right, go ahead, Imagine
what the world would be like with without these certain things.
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Most people think that it's a song about peace and
global unity. Kind of what are you kind of because
he's just kind of saying, like, imagine if we didn't
have these people in power doing certain things religion, politics,
everything else, it's actually about WiFi dial up a o
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L didn't even existed, you got me. That's funny. It's
uh more so because it's a slower tone. People think
it's super peaceful. It's not. It's like a song about
revolutionary ideas of how to achieve peace but doing it
through radical ways. But he was smart enough to go, well,
if I slow it down introdud as a ballad, people
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are gonna feel like I'm hugging the world more than
screaming it. Who does he say that, I'm I'm I'm not.
Why did he not say it like that? Because it's true?
And then us we're all like the slow song, so
I like it's the song is actually about the Communist manifesto.
And now I'm reading earlier that was just me amusing myself.
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That's pretty good. Most people think that ballads The ballad
imagines about people putting us oide their differences, but it's
more political. According to Rolling Stone, he once described the
song as virtually the Communist manifesto. And even though I'm
not particularly a communist and not belong to any movement,
the song clearly asked the listener to imagine a world
without religion or possessions, but Linen admitted he intentionally admitted
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he intentionally tried to sugarcoat his message. But the song,
the sweetness of the song like only it's like, oh imagine,
it's a big hit almost everywhere in a beautiful song
because it's anti religious, anti nationalistic, anti conventional, anti capitalistic,
and because it's well soften like honey. But this video
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is so good too. The white piano uh Sarah McLaughlin angel. Yeah,
it's about puppies. Puppies h A right, Sarah, and for
the Low Low prize at you can help Sparky. Yeah,
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I nor really has one eye, but you can help
that one eye. And it always airs like three in
the morning when everyone's drunk, like all right, here's my wallet,
this is for you, Sparkie. Oh grat what did I
do last night? Adopted thirty? Wait, what's the Sparky's new eye?
What the Sarah McLaughlin got me again. Um the song
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most people think about angels and losing someone, it's really
about heroin addiction. Yeah, more specifically the guy from Smashing
Pumpkins who died. Really who was that? The keyboartist he
died And I'll read a quote. I went to a
cottage north of Montreal to relax and write. I read
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about the Smashing Pumpkins keyboard player who had oded in
a hotel room. She wrote this about a song about
the drug addict struggles with the world. The angel symbolizes
the drugs the addict gives into repeatedly in the arms
of an angel meaning the drugs. She said. The story
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shook me because altho way I had never done drugs
like that. I felt a flood of empathy for him
and the feeling of being lost, lonely and desperately searching
for some kind of release, and that release with drugs or,
as some people would have it, their angel. Wow. Crazy, right,
people use this one in like funerals, right, sure, maybe
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because angel is literally's taking the end the little interpretation
I've never heard in a funeral, but it would make sense. Wow,
this is I mean that changes this. I mean that
song is. This song has always been beautiful to me,
but it's always been like, I don't know it's about pretty,
but wow that I mean. I'm reading it now and like, yeah,
that's pretty deep. Spend all your time waiting for that
second chance, for a break that would make it okay.
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There's always some reason to feel not good enough, and
it's hard at the end of the day. I need
some distraction. Oh, beautiful release, memory seep from my veins.
There's the hotel room too, and maybe empty I would
wait less and maybe I'll find some peace tonight. Wow.
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Just a different feeling about it. When you know what
you're talking about, drug addiction and drugs from this dark hole.
You're right in the chorus in the arms of an Angel,
fly away from here from this dark, cold hotel room
and the endlessness you fear? Wow, Oh, another super sad one.
Do you think that one's gonna get you? Sarah McLaughlin
wrote that one on your own too. Maybe they're just
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writing one person, but surely um the next one, don't
cry Hansen and Bob, Now what's this one about? What
do you think it's about? I have no idea tune Bob,
and now there's more in the verses that I don't
remember what they say. Most people think it's just to
catch pop song that really means nothing, not true. It's
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really about how everything we love will be gone before
we know it. What does umbop have to do with that?
They made the word up, and it really isn't some
made up word. This It bop represents a frame of
mind and then bop They're gone like bop, It's gone,
like who was gone? Oh? Just like that? Yeah, okay,
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because Bob's a word. The whole song is about the
fact that almost everything in your life will come and
go quickly. You gotta figure out what matters and grab
onto those things. Boy, they don't really love doing that song.
Though no, and then they do. They do, but they don't.
Like everyone has respect for that one song that did
it for them, but it's I mean, it's gonna be
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hard when that's the one you sing all the time. Well,
they played our million Dollar Show, and I like those
guys and I know Tyler a bit, Taylor Taylor how
well I know Tyler and Jim And I was thinking
about having my phone as um because I don't want
to put up with Taylor Hanson. You want to see it,
Tyler Hanson, Tyler Hanson. It literally is so um. Taylor
(39:54):
had come and sat beside me and the seats of
the rheme and was like, hey, man, can we not
do him, Bob, We'd prefer to do this other song.
And that's a hard that's a hard question for you,
and it just comes right out to me and asked me.
And I respected that he asked me straight up and
just didn't get on and not play it. But at
the same time, everybody came to see Bob that was
(40:16):
coming to that show. Is that what you I was like, Man,
you can play whatever else you want, but you gotta
play them Bob, Like that's it again. You don't gotta.
I'm not gonna make you, but I can't sit here
and say, you know what, go ahead, do whatever you want.
Like everyone here wants you to play you in Bob,
so if I'm asking, please play Bob. And they did,
and everybody freaking jerked their phones out quicker than I've
(40:38):
seen almost anybody pull their phones to any artist. So
but and it's also super a kid. So I'm sure
they're adults and they have kids. They have probably kids
that are close enough there, so we'll be like writing
a song when you're fourteen and having to sing it
when you're thirty and over. I remember when they committed
and you told me. They're like, oh, they're gonna do
the show, and I'm like, oh great, so we might
(40:59):
have to learn hum Bob. And I looked over the
oom Bob. I'm like, I'm never gonna memorize that. Ever.
You have a favorite hands and song that oom Bob?
No no, no, I like, oh, there's another one that
I really like. It's about a girl. Maybe that Penny
and Me is a good one. Any he was really good.
Did they do that on our show? Maybe? I think
(41:19):
they did so good? Um, will you pull up the
hands and playlist Mike Penny and he's a jam. My
favorite is I Will come to you. Whoa, They're so
good they are it's challenged. Will you play it from
(41:43):
the beginning? Will you play I will come Mimacum, it's
to you. I will come to you. I will come
to you. When' that you know this one? This is
deep cut. This is the hands and deep cut. Nope,
(42:03):
you have to go and come to you. Come on, jam,
(42:23):
I will come to you. I will come to you.
Um your dreams. Well, I believe that does it for
today's show man. It's funny how you said, like a
lot of these stories came out of like storytellers and
didn't bring storytellers back with like Ariana Grande and be like, Ariana,
(42:47):
what is the when you say you like my hair
just bought it? What do you mean by that? Like?
You know, Storytellers was huge to us and we learned
so much. And she'll be like, well, how was it
done with thirteen people? Actually I wasn't even there and
we were just thrown out words. Of course, we made
a melody. They gave us the beat and we went
do do and then we had to fit words over
(43:08):
and those two things haven't a fit because I remember
learning that like Pearl jam Eddie Vetter wrote like Betterman
or something fifteen years before the band even got together.
Oh yeah yeah, and they we're learned that from storytellers.
Well it's like County Crows when they were the himalay Is.
I didn't know that. Hey we look up that again.
I could miss this up there. His band was the Himalayas. Oh,
(43:32):
it could have been a different mountain range. It's been
o was it everest? Let's see because the last thing
I wanted to leave something up here. That's wrong. But
but some of those songs were even on that record,
the first record, The County Crows, Berkeley, California. First name
now type in um County Crows, um original band. There
(43:59):
is there is the himalay Is. Round here was the
Himalays round here? No way? Yeah, American rock band between
they're best known for starting their career this is that's
the base. This is the himalay Is doing round here. Wow,
that's I mean, that's a different sound for sure. Yeah.
So again they had written that song and cut it
(44:22):
on there. We can do it. We can do a
whole Bobby cast on this on bands that were before
the band. We just break down all of that Storytellers
Live CD. Hey, um, you know it would be fun
at this point because Adam Durrett's used to be really famous.
(44:42):
At this point, I could probably it on pretty easily.
This is it the front door? Not so? The melody
is the same, is never the same? Get a better view?
Crumb also wrong and right to right myself and back again,
(45:11):
less whiny, I don't know. Wow, good call. Yeah, who
she's dying is a different debate. Yes, why that's just
the baseline like litt Bisuku like to lit biscuit baseline,
This wouldn't admit it heavy Electra that you're right. It
(45:36):
does sound like a different band of blue like those
horns when bis get that era that yeah, all right, alright,
that you taught me. That's one I didn't know. That
is no clue and that was a Ryan knew it.
So stuff just sits back here sometimes and I'll just
go oh, like my initial reactions to yell at out,
it matches a lot of like Gordon, like freaking Gordon
(45:57):
sway some way, Mike, look that up right by the way,
A big shout out to Mike, do who produced this
entire episode, all the clips and tons of research. So
thanks to him. Is your family here? I have no
idea my phone, but it's raining, so they can't be
at the pool. I have no out check right now.
(46:19):
They're probably down watching TV the snacks. I'm started watching
the show called The Boys on Amazon. It's about it's
a superhero show, but it's like real life, meaning as
reel life as you can be. It's like these people
are superheroes, but it's like the real problems have real
like like addiction, um, like sex stuff, and they live
(46:40):
on Earth. Wow, that sounds good. It's really good. Like
you're watching it one season? Yeah, it's eight episodes. And
if you have this is not a commercial. By the way, No,
I have Amazon. If you have Amazon Prime and you
order stuff, you get all the shows too, which I
didn't know for a long time. I had to buy
a second separate descriptions. No way. But it also comes
with a lot of other stuff that you didn't know
you had, like TV stuff like golf tournaments. They're all
(47:01):
on there for free. For for my gambling. You know,
if you like golf, like basketball games that you normally
wouldn't find. They're on there, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna
go play racquetball with Amy's husband. The big debate was
while I win, yes, you say yes? I think you
will because because he's good. He's a bigger guy and
I feel like he's stronger than you. But racketball is
(47:22):
about but he's a bigger guy and not fat. He's no,
he's pretty in shape though. He flew us this week
and he had a tucked in shirt and he did
he looks good. Yeah, he looks good, but I don't.
He doesn't write like like you do the peloton bike
like mccardio. But it's more than just running. Yeah, it's fast,
that's mostly what racketball is, back and forth? Do you
know you gotta be able to hit it? Though he
(47:42):
mostly Eddie's given me his prognostication on rack. I feel
like I could give you a good running back of ball.
There is no way like, not like unless you've played those.
And it's not even my athletic prowess. It's playing the
angles off the walls all the time. I know many,
I'm gonna play the game. Cool, cool, Bobby, see that
it would you do ten bucks at four to one
odds meaning you would win ten dollars, but you would
(48:05):
lose forty I would correct, but if you bet on me,
you can win a lot more than that, but you
would lose ten. Win for it. Thanks Mike appreciated that.
Check out The Sore Losers That's Eddie lunch Box and
Raymundo's podcast. Check out Amy's podcast Four Things with Amy Brown.
Check out The Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson's The Lifestyle
podcast about fashion and just well being a female and
(48:28):
living your your best mid twenties and mid thirties life.
Um Also check out Caroline hobbies podcast called Get Real,
where she talks with a lot of the wives of
country music superstars and just really strong women in the business.
By the way, I don't know if it's up yet,
but Chris Daughtry's wife, Uh so she had a girlfriend
while her and Chris were together. Open. Really they're married
(48:49):
and she had a real life, open relationship. Talks about
this on the fun Is it up yet? It'll be
up tomorrow so you're by the time you heard this.
Got Get Real with Caroline Hobby and is that Mike Deed?
Is it about to bring on another podcast? I'll tell
who does all the year. But somebody really funny. Really yeah,
you were saying you have a meeting with someone? We did.
It was him and his two managers. Manager very cool,
(49:12):
all right, all right, thank you guys, and we'll see
you next time here. Anything you want to say, Oh man,
thanks for having me. It's fun. Who's your favorite band
of all the bands? Who's your favorite band that morphed
into County Crows the only one that's right? Am I
missing anyone? And what is the term for amb ambiguity?
Can't tell? It could be either ambiguity, Well, that's so
(49:35):
ambiguous if something's ambiguous, but a form of that would
be and it's ambiguity ambiguity. And when his alphabal name
Gordon Lightfoot, it's hardest, all right, by everybody,
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