January 7, 2025 • 51 mins
Amy & Kat's first chat of the year is all about starting 2025 with intention. They're talking about dry January, benefits of having a word of the year, vision board parties, alternatives to botox, show recommendations, the Surgeon General's cancer warning & so much more!
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“The best way to predict the future is to create it.” – Abraham Lincoln
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat, and this is Kat and I's first episode
of twenty twenty five together. HEYKT, Hi, Happy new Year.
We're starting the year with intention. That's what this episode
is all about. So our quote ties into the theme.
It's from Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You know who that is? Heard of him a couple
of times. What president was he? Seventeenth?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Sixteenth? Shooped close.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oh, it's like the same thing based do you know seventeenth?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Van Buren?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Now here's the eighth? Should have said, do you know
the eighth president?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I don't know the seventeenth due No, okay, I know.
All I know is Abraham was sixteenth. And here's the quote.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.
Ooh deep.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That is deep.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Also fun fact, did you know he was a wrestler?
What do you mean he was a wrestler? Like he wrestled?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Was that thing that? I guess? So in the eighteen hundreds,
like a competition wrestler, Like he's on the wrestling team. Interesting,
I don't know about wonder if he was very tall though, Yeah,
I would have pegged him as a wrestler. Yeah, maybe
a basketball player.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Well, he also was really good with things like this
quote here, motivating himself to create his path, to create
his future. And that's what we can lean on. The
only way to predict it is to create it. Create it.
So stuff we're going to get into today Dry January,
Words of the Year vision board parties, So we're gonna
talk about how we're feeling about it, or at least
(01:38):
I will, because I've assigned a feeling to each thing.
And I've never done dry January before until now, and
I am feeling empowered.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh I'm surprised that you've never done it before. Not
that I can recall, because it's something that you would
have been into.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
For sure, But I just don't think I ever felt
like it was nest.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I guess I don't care drink a lot anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
There's been seasons where I think I've had a glass
of wine every night. Okay, but it was a glass.
I could stop there. It wasn't multiple glasses. But I'm
feeling very empowered by it. Words of the Year. You know,
I love a word or words of the Year, but
Cat and I are going to both share ours. I'm
feeling inspired by that. And I want to hear from
(02:26):
our listeners if they have words too, and vision board parties.
That's my thing. Kat and I have done it together
multiple times. And my feeling or my word for that
would be connected, Like I like feeling connected to myself
and the future that I'm trying to create. See what
I did there?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, bring it back.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Shout out Lincoln, Shout Ayraham. If you're listening, shout out
number sixteen. And also I feel connected with friends or
my daughter because joining in on the whole process and
any of the stuff that we're talking about. Just because
we're already into January. If you haven't started any of it,
(03:08):
don't use as an excuse to not do it. Who
cares If you're listening to this right now because podcasts
are weird and it's February or March, you could do
whatever you want for the month of March or.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Maybe start then.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, right now you're listening to this and it's twenty
twenty six, Who cares. You can still do whatever we're
talking about right here for twenty twenty five. Now my
word of the year, which I know, Kat, you need
to talk through whatever yours is because you're still trying
to narrow it down. I've got mine to a T
and it's alignment. I know without a doubt. Alignment is
(03:44):
my word for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
So how did you get there? And what does it mean?
Because you could I could interpret that a couple differently.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Right alignment for me, when it's a mind body spirit connection,
that's what I'm meaning. But also in my physical body,
I do want to work on my post so like
I literally am doing little three minute exercises every day
to help open up my chest because I think naturally
my posture because I'm hunched a lot over my computer,
(04:14):
as are a lot of us in my phone, I
am inward and I am doing exercises to counter that
so that I naturally open up more. And today at
work it's the first time I've done an entire show
without crossing my legs, because I normally cross my right
or my left leg over, you know, the whole thing over.
I'm not talking about the ankles, but my whole leg,
(04:37):
thigh over my other quad And that's really bad. I
have known that for a wik time.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
No, it's not good crossing your legs. Crossing your legs. No, no, way.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
No, Well, then why do they teach you to do that?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Who taught us to do that?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Well, they've taught women to cross our entire life.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well I think that's from when women were wearing skirts.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And I don't know. I feel like maybe people have
just wanted women to have bad alignment their whole life
and not now.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It was a whole mission to ruin women's alignment.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
To keep us down. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Wait, I don't know about crossing ankles. That might be okay,
but I'm talking about crossing legs. And you're sitting that
way for a while, like, think about how your hips are,
and then your back is off and then everything is
off from there. So I sat with my legs flat
and my core as tight as possible and my shoulders back.
(05:32):
But also I was relaxed. At the same time, I was.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Going to say you, in my head, you look very uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yes, however, it gets easier, and the point is you
do it enough and it becomes more normal naturally.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
But if I'm looking at you, am I not looking
that you look a little bit strained?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
No, uncomfortable, No, I think it's more uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
If I'm sitting like this. You think I look. I
think we are right.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
That's on your head. I think you look your poster
looks in alignment. You look great, you look healthy, you
look poised, confident together.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I just came to your house and I sat down
like this. You look fine that you don't look weird.
I'm telling you you think you look weird right now,
because I don't feel like I look comfortable like this
is like, oh, I'm relaxed and I'm here. I just
want to chat.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
But right cozy, you're sitting in the chair crisscross. That's fine.
I think if you sit crisscross in a chair like
criss cross apple sauce, I don't know, used to be
called Indian style no more. I think that is okay
because you can sit like that in a meditation or
in yoga. Okay, I don't have it in front of
(06:45):
me why it's bad for you, but I can look
at it.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I believe it makes sense. And I'm not trying to
knock your alignment. I'm just like imagining me being at
work sitting like that. I feel like it would be.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But I'm telling you right now, you didn't look okay, uncomfortable,
and I think it is uncomfortable because we're countering what
we're used to and to me, it's more uncomfortable to
be hunched over and you're more closed off, and I'm
less open, and I'm less confident.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Less open. You probably look yeah, look less.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And now I'm like a part of the world here
I am, like I felt comfortable. I had to think
a little bit more. But the more I do it,
the less I'm gonna have to think about it. And
that's going to be my natural position and I'm going
to feel better. And this part of alignment was sort
of just a little extra part. The real alignment has
(07:37):
nothing to do with my post, and it's when your thoughts,
your actions, and your values are all in harmony together.
And I feel as though that is what I want
to carry into this year. I think years twenty twenty
to twenty twenty four where a lot of work, a
(07:57):
lot of therapy, a lot of healing, a lot of
figuring out who I am in this new chapter, this
new season of being a divorced single mom of two.
I mean, I have a co parent. I'm not putting
myself in the single mom category of like it's all
on me, but every other week it is, and I'm
(08:19):
thankful for my relationship with Ben and how we co parent.
That feels very much in alignment with who we want
to be. We both try to show up as best
as possible. We're not perfect at it, but that's okay.
That's also being in alignment is knowing how I want
to show up, and if I don't show up that way,
that I have awareness of it and I can go
(08:39):
ask for forgiveness or whatever I need to do, apologize,
make it right. That feels in alignment to me, even
the awareness part, because I think there is a part
of my life where I may be or a season
or times in my life I guess I should say
where I haven't acted how I wanted, but I didn't
have the awareness, so I didn't even know to go
(09:01):
revisit it. So I'm thankful for all the tools and
whatever I've learned in the tough times the last few years,
and now I feel more grounded. The roots are there
and I can show up as me in an authentic way,
which is my goal. I don't know that it's going
to be perfect, but things just feel in alignment and
(09:24):
I want to continue that as a theme. So that's
why it's my word.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, do you have any areas of your life where
you see that being more difficult or easier?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Parenting is hard? I know how I want to show
up as a mom, and I mean what we're a
week into the year. I was very annoyed even yesterday
and frustrated with some things, and I react in a
way it was like shoot. But I was aware right
away that that didn't feel in alignment with who I
have worked hard to become for them in the mom's space,
(09:57):
and so I recognized it, owned it, apologize and we
started over. Yeah, and they were fine too. But that
one's a struggle because there's just so many moving parts
as a parent that can just be there's a lot
of joy and then there's a lot of frustration. Yeah,
and maybe it's because we were getting ready for school
to start, but because yesterday was gearing into today being
(10:18):
the first day of school and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
This is making me think of there's a part in
maybe you should talk to someone in that book by
Lori Gottlieb where she says self awareness is the booby
trap of therapy. And I love it because everybody wants
to have self awareness and that's what you're talking about, Like,
I've learned more about myself and how I show up,
and I've done all this work to have this self awareness.
(10:40):
But then if you have that, then it's like, yeah,
you gotta do something with it. And that's really hard.
And that's the part that you were that's the alignment
of I'm knowing all of these things. I know that
I do these things now, and it doesn't feel right now,
it's my job to do something about it.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
One example of it showing up in my romantic relationship
that sort of felt was even as I'm behaving the
way like the other I was telling you that story
about at the mall. So there was a situation where
I had to share something, but how I was handling
it was not well. I knew in my mind, you
(11:16):
can communicate this better, but I communicated with like like yeah, yeah,
and just being like it's fine, yeah, you know, but
it wasn't fine. And I think if I had just
clearly communicated right off the bat, I could have saved
a little bit of drama. But I was aware of it.
And I think that sometimes it gets tricky depending on
our hormones and how we are.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
There's a lot of moving parts.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, it's like that awareness awareness. It's like, I'm so
aware right now how I'm acting, and I'm aware that
I should be changing, but I'm not changing. I'm still
acting this way. But that's okay. But I circled that
quick on that, like I acted one way and then
even verbally said, I realize right now how I'm acting
is not how I should be acting. I know I
(12:01):
can do better than this, but here we are. And
I was like, and then I said, I think I
need a book a therapy appointment because I'm wondering why
am I processing it this way? Like why am I
letting it out this way?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, well, I just have to say, you kind of
dropped a bomb that I was dating somebody. Yeah, but
now you're talking about it more seriously.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It is, yeah, so okay with that.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
To me, it seems like it could be obvious why
that's showing up, because you're in a relationship for the
first time in a long time, and you might be
visualizing yourself in an old pattern, but you're in a
new one. Like the stuff that would have happened that
you would have done back in the day, that's not
presently happening, but you haven't convinced your whole body and
(12:47):
mind that, so you have to go through those motions
and then verbally say like I can do better than this,
like I don't have to act like this anymore, and
then you feel the safeness and it's okay, and you
move through it, and then the next time that happens,
it's easier. You're changing just like very embedded ways of reacting.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Oh okay, thank you for sharing that with me, because
that does make sense. Yeah, because I'm having this experience
for the first time, and I need to take my mind,
body spirit through the whole journey. Yeah, it's a journey.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, because your head it's like what you were saying
is your head knows, but it almost sounds like your
body was responding in the way that you used to
show up or the way that you used to believe
you had to to get needs met, or maybe you
didn't think you were able to get your needs met,
so that's when you shut down. But in this scenario,
it's like, wait, no, I can get my needs mat
I just have to talk. Your brain knows that, but
(13:38):
your body's like yeah, and then.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Once I do talk, he says, you know, you could
have just said that, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Easy for you to say, you're so healthy, so healthy, gosh, which.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
He has done a lot of therapy, but he even
said something like therapists are like you process really well.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
He's like, I am in one therapyt yeah's You're like,
I've been in it for seventeen years. Like good for
I have four different therapists.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
How many intensives have you done? And he's like none,
And I'm like, well, I can't say the same for myself.
So alignment is my word. So if you are choosing
a word right now, like kat Is, just know that
there's power in having a word for the year. It
helps bring focus and clarity for where you want your
(14:31):
energy to go, your decisions, your actions. It's a guide
for the year action and this year, you know, mine
does have the double like I talked about my post
and then the deeper alignment party. No, I did it
a couple of years ago with water because I literally
wanted to drink more water, but I also wanted to
be like water, which was more go with the flow.
(14:52):
You know, that was a good a good moove like
water and be more just sort of breeze z but
like a flowy flowy. Yeah, I know, but sometimes I
like the word breezy.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well, then you'd be like the wind.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, but I don't need to drink more wind or
consume more. Maybe I need to breathe better.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Well, I'm struggling with my word.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
But let's why through it.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I'm not a word person either. That's one of those
things that sounds really cool, but then I forget to
do it. So I'm actually glad that you brought it up.
And these are my thoughts. You can give me your
two cents. My first thought was, I want a word
that guides me towards enjoying and being in the moment
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more because my life is going to hopefully change more
in the next year or two, so I want to
be able to enjoy having the freedom that I have
now and all of the ways that shows up. So
I was thinking, yes, like that would be my word,
like say like say yes to things versus like I'll
(15:57):
do it tomorrow or I'll do it later, or no,
I don't really want to go to that dinner because
I might regret when I can't do that. But then
I'm like, I don't want to say yes to everything.
Yes sounds like horrible. It's hard to have.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I mean, I get it, like say yes to more,
but I don't want to say yes.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah. Yeah. Well then I did that. I wrote that down.
I was like, I could tell that's on it. But
that was my track where I was going. Then I
was thinking the word savor of like savoring those moments.
I like that, you know, because I can take I
take time for granted a lot, and that also is
something that I don't like about myself. So savoring things
and that speaks speaks in so many ways, of savoring
(16:35):
meals that I really like versus rushing through meals, or
savoring TV shows, or that I'm really enjoying versus like
binging them all at once. I mean, I could use
that in all different ways.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Well, we had our friend dinner the other night, or
a little couples dinner you Patrick, Gracie, her husband, and
me and mystery.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
He's a man, not a boy.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
True, And I was trying to savor that because we
don't all get together often in that way. And I
felt like we were gathered around the table and we
did little question cards and I was trying to savor
what everybody was saying, it's not a word I would
have used then, but I'm thinking about it now of like, oh,
(17:18):
I feel like I savored the night, and I'm glad
I did because it was fun and special.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
So all those moments. But then here's my other thought.
So that's one word. My other thought was kind of
a boring word. My thought was capable because I've been
doing some things lately that have felt very overwhelming to
me but also are very simple tasks that adults do.
But I've been doing them and it's been giving me confidence.
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And I mean, like I had to like call and
cancel my insurance because I'm now on my husband's insurance plan,
or I have to like go to the store and
order contacts, I have to pay my quarterly tax, stuff
like that. I put that stuff off because I feel
overwhelmed by things that are elusive to me. So then
I thought capable too, because this year I want to
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feel more capable of doing tests like that and feeling.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Which one feels more in alignment cop you savor or capable.
You can also have two words.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
No, that's cheating, Okay, I need a double word that
means both of those things to say, capable of savoring.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
No, because that wouldn't be a word of the year.
But I think it's okay if you want to have two,
you don't have to have like strict rules around it
just being one word.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I know it feels like a lot of work to
do both of those things.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
So okay, Well, which one feels more important to you
for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I want to choose savor, but I need to choose capable.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Okay, I will support that. Yeah, I think that capable
is a really good word, and I think you'll do
a great job of savoring things no matter what. Thank you,
you are capable.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Of making that decision. Yes, I don't even need your help.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
We got there. I think that struggling with the word
is very normal. You could probably take more time with
it and journal through it and even see what just
resonates with you more emotionally. But I see how happy
or proud of yourself you are finishing some of those tasks,
and I'm like, oh, I want you to have more
of that this year and know that you are capable. Well,
(19:35):
I think between those three words that we just shared, alignment,
capable and savor, maybe that'll help someone pick a word.
But if you are trying to journal through things, you
can reflect on twenty twenty four. What did you go through?
What are some lessons, what did you lean into, not
lean into? What are your future goals? And then again
(19:59):
what just resonates with you emotionally? And then if you
are debating between if you any meaning miney mo.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
That is and then chosen for the next year, you
figure it out.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yes, and you got that one on deck ready to
take it on. So what this sort of stuff does though,
is it helps you just create the life that you want.
Do you have to have a ward of the year
to have a good year?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
But is it going to hurt you?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And if you want to be intentional about living, then
I highly recommend you get a word of the year
and you get your friends together if you want to
have a vision board party, because there's benefits in that
for sure. Like when we've gotten together and done it,
it's something that well, it's an activity for you and
your friends or you and your kids. I love that
(20:47):
my daughter is doing it and my kids are Haitian.
If you're new to listening, you know, I'm white, my
kids are black, and this year I finally ordered vision
board magazines that are African American. They've got it's like
a book full of stuff, which we were going to
grocery stores or getting different magazines and trying to find things.
(21:08):
But now on Amazon they make it so easy. If
you just type in vision board book. There's so many
pre made vision board books that are ready to go,
and they have all different kinds of photos and quotes
and different things that go with the vision board theme
and you're good to go because magazines are so expensive,
and then you may get a few things that are
(21:29):
useful out of there, and then maybe some weird recipe.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I think the last time we did it, I was like,
why isay magazine twenty dollars? Right? And then you get
one picture out of it. This is a waste that
this is.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You're going to pay twenty dollars, but you're going to
get stop full of stuff and they have it on Amazon.
And this year I got like glu glue tape. It
sort of looks like those wide out little machine things,
but it's glue, which to me seemed easier than a
glue stick or tape. And I got scissors. You can
order all the supplies on Amazon get the total. You
(22:02):
can split it with your friends if they're coming over,
but if you're the one hosting, just like make it
easy and you have everything there and you just put
on a fun movie, bake some cookies, pop some popcorn,
and it's a way to connect. Then you've got your
friends doing it. Then there's accountability because I kind of
know what's on your board, and it just makes the
whole goal setting process not daunting, more fun, more social.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
More exciting.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, a moment you want to savor, and then you'll
know everything on your board you are capable of well,
and then you share and it'll feel in alignment.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well, you share it with your friends, and then they
also know. I feel like a lot of times we
just don't have those conversations with our friends. It's a
thing that we think about on our own or we
journal about it. But then your friends know what your
goals are and what you want to do with the year.
Like I remember the first year we did it, you
put a cat and then you got Maggie, and it's like, oh,
I know that that was one of your things, or
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I don't know what I had on my board. But
when those things happen it's just a man I had
more special. It's like, I remember when we were talking
about that.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
You know what you put a man?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I did? Oh, that's I did in that year I
met Patrick. Yeah, I put a cat.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You put a man.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
To be very you might have been married at the time,
so I was okay, yeah, you wouldn't have put a
man on yours exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
So dry January. That's an unexpected thing that popped up
for me this year. I didn't plan on doing it.
It just was the thirty first and I thought, oh, okay,
I'm going to do dry January. So the guy that
I'm dating he does it every year, and then you're
doing it, and I thought, well, why why would I not? Okay,
(23:45):
that seems doable to me. And you know, I have
dabbled in like the mushroom drinks and some of those
non alcoholic beverages, and they've been really nice. I don't
really know exactly what they're doing, but I like them.
It's fun to just make a cocktail and you still
feel like you're doing something fun and you can put
(24:06):
it in a cute glass. It doesn't have to have
the alcohol.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I feel like because I've bought they were buy one,
get one free at Publics, which is a grocery store.
If you guys don't have a public Poppies, you drink poppy.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I know what you're talking about, but I haven't ever
had it.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
They're just like little sodas, and I think they might
have probiotics in them or something, but not enough to
like make a difference. However, I bought them and they
take They have crazy flavors and they're really good. And
I started putting them in cute little cups with like
a fun little straw. And it brings awareness to me
(24:39):
that sometimes when I'm having a glass of wine, if
I'm with friends or whatever, it's just because I want
to have something, not because I really want to have
the glass of wine. So it's a good practice, I
think to notice, Am I wanting wine or a margarita
or whatever because I really want that? Or do I
just like want something fun in my hand?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I agree, because you want that. It's like comforting, sort
of like my coffee cup in the morning. I love
that feeling, and time I don't drink the coffee. Similarly,
I like the feeling of having a drink when I'm
with my friends. But what do I want more Do
I want that drink with my friends? Or do I
want better sleep? Do I want a clearer mind? Do
I want better physical health? Like the next day?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
And I'm like hmmm, But I even think sometimes it's
it's not like a comfort thing. It's a fun thing,
you know, like going out and getting it. It's like
something to do, and you can make mocktails that also
are to me the fun.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yes, comfort and fun yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
It's it could be multiple things.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
And then the benefits outweigh the negatives, which alcohol if
I had one drink didn't used to affect me negatively,
but as I age, it does. Like just one drink,
and if I'm out at a restaurant or a bar
and I don't know what all they're putting in it,
or what the quality of alcohol, or what are the
other mixers that are in there, I'm not sure. If
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I just order some fun drink, but I don't know
everything that it entails. Sometimes I just have that drink.
In the next day, I do not feel great. So
at least for the month of January, I'm going to
feel better and it's gonna I just want to see
how it goes. And I think this is the year
of probably me drinking less and less and less, which
(26:22):
is weird because I just always thought I would dabble
in alcohol, like I've never felt the need to not,
and as I get older that just starts to change.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well, is it that you are feeling the need to
not or that you're caring less about it?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I guess I'm caring less about it. I guess I
have less of the desire. But on a related note,
which just the other day, the Surgeon General released a
whole thing about alcohol, saying that they should contain warning
labels for cancer, breast cancer, colon, liver. It's like, we
(26:57):
obviously know that it can be better, but like, I'm
pretty sure this was a statement saying like even just
wandering because you hear, oh, a glass of wine a day,
it's good for you, keeps the doctor away.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Well, red wine is supposed to be like it's good
for your heart.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Right, And the Surgeon General was saying no, no alcohol,
and it needs to have a label sort of like cigarettes.
So then I'm like, have we been misled? No? We
get misled on sugar?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
And wait are they say no to all?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Let me pull up what I had alcohol is the
third leading preventable cause of cancer in the US, yet
many Americans are unaware of this risk. The proposal would
require congressional approval that has sparked debate, with some industry
groups arguing that existing labels are sufficient, which I guess
I don't know what the existing label is. I should
to go look at a bottle of alcohol. This aligns
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with global efforts, as countries like Ireland plan to implement
similar warnings soon. And I feel like other countries they
get on board with things faster than we do.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
They regards to our health, yes.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
And what's like legal and not legal.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I just was curious if it's saying all alcohol, because
when we went to Italy and I noticed the difference
one everybody is having alcohol all the time. It's such
like it's not just part of our culture, it is
like their culture there. To me, they drink more than
I've experienced people in America drinking. However, they are somewhat
(28:27):
healthier over there, it seems. But I never once felt
sick or bad from drinking over there, and I think
part of that is well, I think the main part
of that is how they're making their wine and their
drinks there versus how we are doing it, so I
don't know if it's talking about certain kinds of alcohol.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Okay, the whole January reporter just pulled this up. It
says they noted the current warning label, which cautions against
this is what the current warning label says. It cautions
against drinking during pregnancy, operating heavy machinery or a car
causing quote health problems, and that hasn't been updated since
it was first introduced in nineteen eighty eight. So here
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we are.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
We've learned some twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
There's no language yet shared for the up data label,
but the report points out that alcohol consumption is linked
to an increased risk of at least seven types of
cancer breast, colon, rectum, liver, mouth, throat, larynx, and esophagus.
I don't know why I stuttered on.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
That one, and then you got nervous with the selfie
issued did?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
There are forty seven countries that carry warning labels on alcohol.
South Korea's label specifically mentioned the cancer risk, and beginning
next year, Ireland's going to carry a cancer specific warning label.
So I guess that is what he's pushing for, that
we would have a cancer label now to your question,
Kat about which like is it is that on a
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bottle of wine? Is it only on hard liquor? But
it says here many people out there assume that as
long as they're drinking at the limits or below the
limits of current guidelines of one a day for women
and two for men, that there's no risk to their
health or wellbeing. But the Surgeon General says that data
does not bear that out for cancer risk. So is
(30:28):
this specifically with cancer, not with you know?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
But is it saying like you have either fifty percent
more likely to get this or like a three percent
I mean three percent? Still?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I mean, I don't know. Those numbers are not there.
It doesn't say it here, and I just read through
the entire article.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I'd be curious to see what happens with that.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I mean, I didn't read through the entire report. I
read through the article at people dot com talking about
the report. So, but it says here he called for
alcohol to carry warning labels for cancer, saying it causes
nearly one hundred thousand cancer cases and approximately twenty thousand
cancer deaths every year. Wow, So I do have those numbers.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Okay, that's it.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
But I don't know the percentages. And obviously everybody's body
metabolizes so many different things, and depending on what you're
predisposed to or other lifestyle choices, like you know, it's
also tricky. But for me, I'm like, Okay, if I
know that something could be increasing my risk of getting cancer,
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why am I going to continue to drink it every day?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I could say that for so many things though, Like
your phone gives you cancer, that's what they say, Like
using a cell.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Phone, I know, but I tell you, what are you getting.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Rid of your phone? As well? I tell you I
actually am using a lane light.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Now, No, but what are we calling him your boyfriend?
He doesn't ever put his phone to his ear. Oh no, so,
But also he has a whole story which he can share.
I'll wait to have his permission. But he has been
impacted by cancer similar to me, but his and I
don't know. I can't even imagine going through what he
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went through. But he has implemented certain changes. And he's
also very passionate about not just the cell phones, but
and he uses a cell phone. Don't get me wrong,
He's not out there, but he doesn't He'll always have
it on speaker or he'll use headphones but with a wire.
He doesn't use use AirPods.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
He doesn't, which, like, you know what, I think that's
a conspiracy anyway, So good for him.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
What is the conspiracy?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I the conspiracy is that they're always making us buy
new things, like you have to have AirPods. Now my
phone doesn't even have a headphone jack, so I had
to buy a thing to put in my phone, adopt.
But then I could to buy adapter to an adapter
because my headphones have the old So I am getting
(32:57):
frustrated with the fact that we have to continue to
buy all this new stuff, and when I feel like
my grandparents probably use the same set of headphones.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Their whole entire lives, not us, No, not us.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I have to get a new part on everything, and
then your charger dies, and so I know that it's
not why he's not getting the air pods, but I
do really commend him for that battle he's fighting.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
He just got a new iPhone, So yeah, that's not
how I know about those adapters, because he had to
order something so that his headphones.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Would all new chargers.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
M that's why I'm not going to get a new phone.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Well, destly they're going to make your phone not work anymore.
You have to watch that documentary on Netflix. It's called
like buy This or Buy or Buy More, something about buying,
but it's all about consumerism and how it has like
old presidents and CEOs and people high up in companies
like Amazon, Adidas, Apple. They're talking about the things that
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they they left the companies obviously else they'd get fired
from their job for doing this. All the things that
they did when they were working there that they were like,
I morally can't work there anymore because of how this
is impacting people in the environment.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It wasn't in alignment.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
It was not in alignment with them with who they
wanted to.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Be, and they were capable of walking away. And now
I bet they savor.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
The good job.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Like what I said there, see you guys.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
It's a good documentary though. You should watch it.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
No, I think I'm actually going to watch it later today.
You don't know the name.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
It's called by Buy Something. I want to say it
was like a top on the top ten Netflix.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Well, tell people where they can find you and I'll
look it up so that people can know.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
You can find me on Instagram at kat Van Buren
and Van Buren was the eighth president and his nickname
was Little Van. Yeah he was short. Yeah, it was
like five two or something.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
So it's called by now the shopping conspiracy is that it.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yes, it's so good. Do not watch it if you
are sensitive to like the recycling crisis and stuff like that.
To me, I learned a lot and it was helpful
and brought me awareness.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
But don't watch it if you're there.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Are people that get really worked up by, like I mean,
because it's it exposes a lot of issues with recycling's
a scam.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Oh, boyfriend's already he's very disappointed in this because he
recycles and does a lot like at his anything. Oh no,
he already knows. He's like, I'm he's starting to not
freak out about it as much because he's like, it
doesn't even really matter.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
You should have him watch it too, because I really
liked they ended it in a good way that was
like we can fix this problem. But what they were
talking about is companies cannot put the recycling or the
afterlife of the product on the consumer because we recycle
it and it still is going to landfills and pollution.
There should be a plan when you're making a product
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for the afterlife of it.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Right, we need to be thinking all the way through.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
That light bulbs used to last for like seventy five years,
and a group of light bulb people got together and
they're like, people aren't buying enough light bulbs. We need
to make these last not as long. So that's why
lightbulbs die when they die. Now, they could last our
whole lives.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I plan to live past seventy five.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Okay, well you would only have to buy two light bulbs.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I'm just kidding. So it says here that this documentary
is about exposing the dark side of consumerism, shedding light
on how modern tech companies, clothing designers, and e commerce
businesses get people to buy more. Like Hot was saying
there with the light bulbs, it's crazy stuff. Shady who
invented the light bulb?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Thomas Edison boom God, I just got nervous.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I'll love random trivia.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I can't get two questions wrong in one?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Did you watch The Gilded Age? No? On Max?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
It's such a good show, Like is it coming back?
I need another season of it? If there was any
era you could live in which would it be.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Well, what I don't know who the Gilded Age is.
What is that?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
It's like late eighteen hundreds. Oh no, but I would
want to be Gilded Age high society.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
You don't want to be poor in New York.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Well I wouldn't when I would want to be high
society that also cared about other people, not high society
that only wanted to mingle like I, just because I
would want the comforts of life in the late eighteen hundreds,
I don't that they had at least the most comfort.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Sorry the comforts of life that they had like I did.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I wouldn't want to live I know. Since this is
all hypothetically speaking, I'm just saying I would like to
be like, have the pretty dresses and maybe go attend
to the balls. But I don't want to be all
wrapped up in the balls where I only talk to
people that have the same amount of money as me.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
But that's what the guilt. I can't talk to you,
you don't go to the right.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Or you're not your family name is not even if
you have the money. So the thing is that was
a time where new money was coming into New York,
and it actually they had more money than some of
the old money. But the old money didn't care because
it's like, you're not start, you don't have a family name. Yeah, yeahs.
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So anyway, during one of the episodes of The Gilded Age,
Thomas Edison was in it because the light bulb was invented,
and that's what maybe think of the Gilded Age. But
I don't know if another season is coming out. Since
we're talking about shows that.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Are good, is that a newer show?
Speaker 1 (38:40):
It says that it's been renewed for a third season. Oh,
it's going to come out in twenty twenty five. HBO
confirmed the third season will return in twenty twenty five,
but no specific release date has been set. Well, when
that comes out, I will savor it. So anyway, what
what era would you live in? Well, I don't know,
because when is it wonderful life? That movie is that
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like the forties, nineteen forty six.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
The forties. But then I'm like, I don't want to
live during World War Two? Like I don't, That's not
when I would want to go back. But I also don't.
Then I think like, oh, the fifties sounds really fun.
But then I'm like, I like being able to have
a credit card as a woman and have a job
in both like.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I mean, but talk about late eighties hundreds.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, you be going to the balls in your corset and
then going home and having a baby.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
So I don't know. I think it would be fun
to visit those time periods, but I wouldn't want to
exist my whole lifetime in them. You know what, Maybe
the eighties I would have liked to been longer. Living
in the eighties, I only lived like twenty days in
the eighties. Like the eighties and nineties, I wish I
was an adult in the eighties and nineties versus a kid.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
That would have been a good time to be in radio.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
The nineties would have been such a fun time to
be like a young adult.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I feel like, yeah, I was in high school then,
but yes, to be out of college.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, like twenty five in the nineties, I.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Mean, you could like go to the airport and do
whatever you want there because before those before oh that's
what you're summer eleventh, Well, you.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Have to get through security to go to the airport.
You could just go there and hang out.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, or if you were like taking someone to the airport,
you could walk them to their gate.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah. I when I first flew on an airplane, my
parents walked me to.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Well, as a parent, you can still do that now
you need to, but you have to go through a
whole process. Yeah, if your child's flying alone. But yeah,
no you could just like walk in.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Well, yeah, we can't chase people to the airport and
yell at them right before they're going on their flight
and have that moment anymore, because you have to have
a ticket to get.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
In right, like you have to go buy chick on Friends.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, as I was thinking, and I haven't even seen
that show, it's a famous scene. How do you know
that it's the famous scene? I know scenes from Friends
because you know I already talked about them all the time.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Okay, Well Helpsmeller having the day that you need to have,
and when you come up with your words, let us know.
We want to know. She's at kat van Buren. I'm
at Radio Amy, and you can email us at four
Things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com. I got
the coolest email Top five top five coolest email of
my career. I got it this week and are going
(41:08):
to share it on Thursday's Four Things. I'm also going
to talk about botox, Well, my relationship with botox right
now in this moment, and face face fit, face call it.
You can say face Gym, face gymnastics, face Pilate's, face yoga,
or face fitness.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I was gonna say face Gym is a real place,
I think in like New York.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, I've not been, but I've seen it. I want
it's like inside. I feel like when you and I
were there at where do we go shopping that one day?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
That no, and we got lip gloss and sunscreen is
what we bought? Sun screen? Yeah, we got I got
a lip glass and sun screen.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
We got that Bobby Brown lip gloss that will like
turn a different color depending on your skin tight pH
and then we got that Goop sunscreen. That stuff's good.
I feel like those were two good purchases.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
They were, but it's like we went to New Oh,
but then we went to Zara. Okay, that's all. We
went to York. Yeah, I know it's more fun to
buy stuff it Zara in New York than here.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
You're right, it was nord Strum, but there's that whatever
we're talking about. A second ago, faced Gym, it was.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I was in North Trump.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Maybe it was Blooming Mills. Actually I don't know, but
it was an inside sort of like a dry bar
can be inside of a department store.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Well, maybe we'll go on another trip and go to
face gym. Well.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Also, what I'm saying is I'm doing face fitness on
my own from YouTube, and i sit in front of
the mirror and I'm trying to relax certain muscles and
exercise other ones, and it's going to keep me from
getting botox at least for a little bit. How well,
I mean, I've gotten botox the last however many years,
(42:53):
and I think I need to dial back.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Well, I don't know if this is going to take
away if you're going to say this on your thursdaypisode
so you don't have to answer this, But how long
of a period of time do you want to spend
not getting it until you realize if it's worth it
or not. Because I'm in that same boat where I'm
trying not to get botox, and I can't just be like,
oh three months, No, I need to give myself a leap.
I need to take a year break. I feel like
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to really see if I want to go back and
get it.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, I don't know that I haven't answer that question
fully because I don't know how long it's going to
take for it to fully be out of my system.
So I think there's some parts where I can tell
that it's out, but other parts I think it's still there.
So once it's fully metabolized and gone, then i'll know.
(43:42):
But also I'm be doing my face fitness, so you'll
never know. Maybe the face fitness starts working and I
don't know, but i'll know. I guess by calendar how
long it's been, and I'll think, well, there's no way
there's some left there, and then I can make a
decision on if I want to continue face fitness or
get botox, but get it done in a more mindful,
(44:06):
conservative way of Okay, I'm only going to get this
many units, and I'm only going to do it this often,
instead of just okay, what do you think I need
to have done? And then anytime I see movement, I'm like, oh,
I think I need both yes, because that's the part
that didn't feel in alignment with me, and since this
is my year of alignment, if something is feeling off,
(44:28):
I'm going to pay attention to it and try to
implement change instead. Of just continuing down a path that
do I think botox is bad for everybody? No, I'm
not saying that at all because I don't know, and
I don't have the authority to say that. I know
that I have enjoyed it, maybe a little too much.
(44:48):
So I want to dial back and have a new,
like baseline where am I starting? Because also as I age,
one thing I do know and doctor Lucky, who's a
plastics surgeon here in town that sewed up my ear
and even my botox girl carry something we've talked about
before is you can over talks and then when you age,
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there's no undoing it because you've paralyzed the muscles in
a way. So when you get older, like when I
get into my sixties, the skin may sag more than
it would have if I didn't.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Get The muscles are so weak the botox correct so.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
You do have to be careful. The problem is I
feel like I just kind of need to start from
whatever my natural is. There's just been so so long.
Well I I am with it.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I have thoughts on that. So we can have a
botox conversation the other day. What we'll do a checkout.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Which doctor Lucky said the plastic surgeon. She said, I
think no more than thirty five units at a time.
Why is your mouth open?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Like so I forgot that people can't like hear me
jaw dropping because I don't know how much. I don't
think I get more than that. I think when I
was getting, I was getting like thirty. Well that's good,
but I know so many people, like young people that
get like one hundred, right, and then people the problem
they they I've seen those I'm sure that is on
(46:12):
TikTok has seen this stuff where they go around like
an office and say what do you get and wear
and how many units? And there's like twenty five year
olds that are like I get one hundred and fifty units,
and I'm like, well, I.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Do wonder about like is it thirty five everywhere? Because
some of those people. I've seen some of those videos,
and some of them are including what they get in
their like their head and their back of their neck
to release tension. Okay, but some of those videos are
just for their face, right, it's everywhere in their face,
like everywhere, yes, their neck, everywhere, their shoulders. People are
(46:45):
getting that's what I mean, the shoulder, But that's does
that count.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Well, yes, but there's it's one thing if you get
because I know people get botox from migraines and it's
used for all this other stuff. But people are getting it.
I forget what it's called, but they get botox and
like their shoulders are like their jaw or something.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
To like to look more feminine soccer.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
I forgot what the when?
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Really they could do poster exercises.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
But it's just like it is. It is interesting to me,
and we don't really Like I started getting botox and
I was like, oh, you're allowed to get this, it
must not be bad for you. Like I didn't do
any research on it.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
So exactly back to like the alcohol thing. Oh this
is legal and there's no warning. Let's not be bad
for us. We can have it every day. And now
they're like warning, never mind, FYI, this is cancer in
a bottle.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
And so do I care enough about getting botox to
take that risk? Like no, right now, I'm like, I
don't really think I care that much. I think I
was just I liked it and I was getting it,
but I do I don't have it. I don't like
look in the mirror and hate myself kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
It's good to notice when you shift and what you
care about, because if you want all that stuff, this
isn't about you not doing it or us or me
having any judgment or shame. I literally may do this
whole thing in four months from Now'll be like, you
know what, I need a one hundred fIF my shoulders,
Like I'm not coming from a place of this is.
(48:08):
This is me trying to figure out what feels in
alignment for me and navigating my way through it. But
it is interesting to see what I care about now
versus things I cared about a few years ago that
I thought, oh, you know, I'll probably always be dabble
in alcohol because again I don't have a problem with it,
(48:31):
and having walked through someone in my life that does
and can no longer have it, which I had never
walked closely alongside someone until the last few years, like
I know, and that's when I realized, because sometimes I
would be like, do I have a problem with alcohol?
Because like why am I? But then I realized what
that actually like and that I had the ability to
(48:52):
just cut it off cold turkey, And then not everybody
has that. There's just no way, like they want to
cut it off and they cannot. So that's very different
than what I'm saying. But I just kind of always
thought it would be in my life and I didn't
really care because I like that. I like that it's
fun and you know, fun drinks and friends, and I
wanted the option to do it. And now I just
(49:13):
don't really care about that.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I'll say this last thing goes back to that documentary
of Connects. Yes, and then marketing, and I think oftentimes
you or I never would have wanted something unless or
thought any had a thought that I needed or anything
unless somebody showed it to me. But if I didn't,
(49:36):
let's say I was getting the I wish I knew
what it did, like the shoulder or the jar or whatever.
I might not ever think anything negative or that I
want to fix my jaw until I see all these
people doing it, and then I'm like, oh, I need that,
And now I'm self conscious of it, but I'm not
really self conscious of it. That was That's almost like
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a marketing, wellness culture, beauty culture way to get us
to buy more of their products.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Okay, so is it called trap talks or Barbie talks?
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yes, yes, yeah, it reduces pain and stiffness in the
neck and shoulders. It improves range of motion, It creates
a more elongated and leaner neck. It can improve the
definition of the shoulders and promote better posture, but so
can my three minute posta exercise.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
But I feel like when I've seen it, I didn't
know it didn't have that, which that's very interesting, But
it was more about the ascetic look of what it does.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
That's what the elongating Okay, the leaner it says, longer,
leaner neck, Yeah, and improved definition of the shoulders.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yeah, I just a Barbie. And that's so what you
said too, Like, I don't care that if you're doing
it, it feels right and it aligns with you and it's
not causing you harm. But I just like, I like
being in charge of my choices versus like, oh, I'm
making this choice and I didn't even make it for me,
that TikTok made it for me, you know what I mean.
(50:56):
So I mean, who knows, in six months I could
be getting it too, So then I'll eat my words.
But right now I.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Have to be making her Barbie Talks appointment.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
But right now I just am trying to be more
aware of what I want because I saw somebody else
have it, and now I feel like I'm lacking and
what I actually care about. I feel like we've actually
episoded up, like twenty minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah, I hope you're having the day that Okay, Bye
bye
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat, and this is Kat and I's first episode
of twenty twenty five together. HEYKT, Hi, Happy new Year.
We're starting the year with intention. That's what this episode
is all about. So our quote ties into the theme.
It's from Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You know who that is? Heard of him a couple
of times. What president was he? Seventeenth?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Sixteenth? Shooped close.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oh, it's like the same thing based do you know seventeenth?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Van Buren?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Now here's the eighth? Should have said, do you know
the eighth president?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I don't know the seventeenth due No, okay, I know.
All I know is Abraham was sixteenth. And here's the quote.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.
Ooh deep.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That is deep.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Also fun fact, did you know he was a wrestler?
What do you mean he was a wrestler? Like he wrestled?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Was that thing that? I guess? So in the eighteen hundreds,
like a competition wrestler, Like he's on the wrestling team. Interesting,
I don't know about wonder if he was very tall though, Yeah,
I would have pegged him as a wrestler. Yeah, maybe
a basketball player.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Well, he also was really good with things like this
quote here, motivating himself to create his path, to create
his future. And that's what we can lean on. The
only way to predict it is to create it. Create it.
So stuff we're going to get into today Dry January,
Words of the Year vision board parties, So we're gonna
talk about how we're feeling about it, or at least
(01:38):
I will, because I've assigned a feeling to each thing.
And I've never done dry January before until now, and
I am feeling empowered.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh I'm surprised that you've never done it before. Not
that I can recall, because it's something that you would
have been into.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
For sure, But I just don't think I ever felt
like it was nest.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I guess I don't care drink a lot anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
There's been seasons where I think I've had a glass
of wine every night. Okay, but it was a glass.
I could stop there. It wasn't multiple glasses. But I'm
feeling very empowered by it. Words of the Year. You know,
I love a word or words of the Year, but
Cat and I are going to both share ours. I'm
feeling inspired by that. And I want to hear from
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our listeners if they have words too, and vision board parties.
That's my thing. Kat and I have done it together
multiple times. And my feeling or my word for that
would be connected, Like I like feeling connected to myself
and the future that I'm trying to create. See what
I did there?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, bring it back.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Shout out Lincoln, Shout Ayraham. If you're listening, shout out
number sixteen. And also I feel connected with friends or
my daughter because joining in on the whole process and
any of the stuff that we're talking about. Just because
we're already into January. If you haven't started any of it,
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don't use as an excuse to not do it. Who
cares If you're listening to this right now because podcasts
are weird and it's February or March, you could do
whatever you want for the month of March or.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Maybe start then.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, right now you're listening to this and it's twenty
twenty six, Who cares. You can still do whatever we're
talking about right here for twenty twenty five. Now my
word of the year, which I know, Kat, you need
to talk through whatever yours is because you're still trying
to narrow it down. I've got mine to a T
and it's alignment. I know without a doubt. Alignment is
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my word for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
So how did you get there? And what does it mean?
Because you could I could interpret that a couple differently.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Right alignment for me, when it's a mind body spirit connection,
that's what I'm meaning. But also in my physical body,
I do want to work on my post so like
I literally am doing little three minute exercises every day
to help open up my chest because I think naturally
my posture because I'm hunched a lot over my computer,
(04:14):
as are a lot of us in my phone, I
am inward and I am doing exercises to counter that
so that I naturally open up more. And today at
work it's the first time I've done an entire show
without crossing my legs, because I normally cross my right
or my left leg over, you know, the whole thing over.
I'm not talking about the ankles, but my whole leg,
(04:37):
thigh over my other quad And that's really bad. I
have known that for a wik time.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
No, it's not good crossing your legs. Crossing your legs. No, no, way.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
No, Well, then why do they teach you to do that?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Who taught us to do that?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Well, they've taught women to cross our entire life.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well I think that's from when women were wearing skirts.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And I don't know. I feel like maybe people have
just wanted women to have bad alignment their whole life
and not now.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It was a whole mission to ruin women's alignment.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
To keep us down. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Wait, I don't know about crossing ankles. That might be okay,
but I'm talking about crossing legs. And you're sitting that
way for a while, like, think about how your hips are,
and then your back is off and then everything is
off from there. So I sat with my legs flat
and my core as tight as possible and my shoulders back.
(05:32):
But also I was relaxed. At the same time, I was.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Going to say you, in my head, you look very uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yes, however, it gets easier, and the point is you
do it enough and it becomes more normal naturally.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
But if I'm looking at you, am I not looking
that you look a little bit strained?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
No, uncomfortable, No, I think it's more uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
If I'm sitting like this. You think I look. I
think we are right.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
That's on your head. I think you look your poster
looks in alignment. You look great, you look healthy, you
look poised, confident together.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I just came to your house and I sat down
like this. You look fine that you don't look weird.
I'm telling you you think you look weird right now,
because I don't feel like I look comfortable like this
is like, oh, I'm relaxed and I'm here. I just
want to chat.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
But right cozy, you're sitting in the chair crisscross. That's fine.
I think if you sit crisscross in a chair like
criss cross apple sauce, I don't know, used to be
called Indian style no more. I think that is okay
because you can sit like that in a meditation or
in yoga. Okay, I don't have it in front of
(06:45):
me why it's bad for you, but I can look
at it.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I believe it makes sense. And I'm not trying to
knock your alignment. I'm just like imagining me being at
work sitting like that. I feel like it would be.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But I'm telling you right now, you didn't look okay, uncomfortable,
and I think it is uncomfortable because we're countering what
we're used to and to me, it's more uncomfortable to
be hunched over and you're more closed off, and I'm
less open, and I'm less confident.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Less open. You probably look yeah, look less.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And now I'm like a part of the world here
I am, like I felt comfortable. I had to think
a little bit more. But the more I do it,
the less I'm gonna have to think about it. And
that's going to be my natural position and I'm going
to feel better. And this part of alignment was sort
of just a little extra part. The real alignment has
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nothing to do with my post, and it's when your thoughts,
your actions, and your values are all in harmony together.
And I feel as though that is what I want
to carry into this year. I think years twenty twenty
to twenty twenty four where a lot of work, a
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lot of therapy, a lot of healing, a lot of
figuring out who I am in this new chapter, this
new season of being a divorced single mom of two.
I mean, I have a co parent. I'm not putting
myself in the single mom category of like it's all
on me, but every other week it is, and I'm
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thankful for my relationship with Ben and how we co parent.
That feels very much in alignment with who we want
to be. We both try to show up as best
as possible. We're not perfect at it, but that's okay.
That's also being in alignment is knowing how I want
to show up, and if I don't show up that way,
that I have awareness of it and I can go
(08:39):
ask for forgiveness or whatever I need to do, apologize,
make it right. That feels in alignment to me, even
the awareness part, because I think there is a part
of my life where I may be or a season
or times in my life I guess I should say
where I haven't acted how I wanted, but I didn't
have the awareness, so I didn't even know to go
(09:01):
revisit it. So I'm thankful for all the tools and
whatever I've learned in the tough times the last few years,
and now I feel more grounded. The roots are there
and I can show up as me in an authentic way,
which is my goal. I don't know that it's going
to be perfect, but things just feel in alignment and
(09:24):
I want to continue that as a theme. So that's
why it's my word.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, do you have any areas of your life where
you see that being more difficult or easier?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Parenting is hard? I know how I want to show
up as a mom, and I mean what we're a
week into the year. I was very annoyed even yesterday
and frustrated with some things, and I react in a
way it was like shoot. But I was aware right
away that that didn't feel in alignment with who I
have worked hard to become for them in the mom's space,
(09:57):
and so I recognized it, owned it, apologize and we
started over. Yeah, and they were fine too. But that
one's a struggle because there's just so many moving parts
as a parent that can just be there's a lot
of joy and then there's a lot of frustration. Yeah,
and maybe it's because we were getting ready for school
to start, but because yesterday was gearing into today being
(10:18):
the first day of school and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
This is making me think of there's a part in
maybe you should talk to someone in that book by
Lori Gottlieb where she says self awareness is the booby
trap of therapy. And I love it because everybody wants
to have self awareness and that's what you're talking about, Like,
I've learned more about myself and how I show up,
and I've done all this work to have this self awareness.
(10:40):
But then if you have that, then it's like, yeah,
you gotta do something with it. And that's really hard.
And that's the part that you were that's the alignment
of I'm knowing all of these things. I know that
I do these things now, and it doesn't feel right now,
it's my job to do something about it.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
One example of it showing up in my romantic relationship
that sort of felt was even as I'm behaving the
way like the other I was telling you that story
about at the mall. So there was a situation where
I had to share something, but how I was handling
it was not well. I knew in my mind, you
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can communicate this better, but I communicated with like like yeah, yeah,
and just being like it's fine, yeah, you know, but
it wasn't fine. And I think if I had just
clearly communicated right off the bat, I could have saved
a little bit of drama. But I was aware of it.
And I think that sometimes it gets tricky depending on
our hormones and how we are.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
There's a lot of moving parts.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, it's like that awareness awareness. It's like, I'm so
aware right now how I'm acting, and I'm aware that
I should be changing, but I'm not changing. I'm still
acting this way. But that's okay. But I circled that
quick on that, like I acted one way and then
even verbally said, I realize right now how I'm acting
is not how I should be acting. I know I
(12:01):
can do better than this, but here we are. And
I was like, and then I said, I think I
need a book a therapy appointment because I'm wondering why
am I processing it this way? Like why am I
letting it out this way?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, well, I just have to say, you kind of
dropped a bomb that I was dating somebody. Yeah, but
now you're talking about it more seriously.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It is, yeah, so okay with that.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
To me, it seems like it could be obvious why
that's showing up, because you're in a relationship for the
first time in a long time, and you might be
visualizing yourself in an old pattern, but you're in a
new one. Like the stuff that would have happened that
you would have done back in the day, that's not
presently happening, but you haven't convinced your whole body and
(12:47):
mind that, so you have to go through those motions
and then verbally say like I can do better than this,
like I don't have to act like this anymore, and
then you feel the safeness and it's okay, and you
move through it, and then the next time that happens,
it's easier. You're changing just like very embedded ways of reacting.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Oh okay, thank you for sharing that with me, because
that does make sense. Yeah, because I'm having this experience
for the first time, and I need to take my mind,
body spirit through the whole journey. Yeah, it's a journey.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, because your head it's like what you were saying
is your head knows, but it almost sounds like your
body was responding in the way that you used to
show up or the way that you used to believe
you had to to get needs met, or maybe you
didn't think you were able to get your needs met,
so that's when you shut down. But in this scenario,
it's like, wait, no, I can get my needs mat
I just have to talk. Your brain knows that, but
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your body's like yeah, and then.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Once I do talk, he says, you know, you could
have just said that, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Easy for you to say, you're so healthy, so healthy, gosh, which.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
He has done a lot of therapy, but he even
said something like therapists are like you process really well.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
He's like, I am in one therapyt yeah's You're like,
I've been in it for seventeen years. Like good for
I have four different therapists.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
How many intensives have you done? And he's like none,
And I'm like, well, I can't say the same for myself.
So alignment is my word. So if you are choosing
a word right now, like kat Is, just know that
there's power in having a word for the year. It
helps bring focus and clarity for where you want your
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energy to go, your decisions, your actions. It's a guide
for the year action and this year, you know, mine
does have the double like I talked about my post
and then the deeper alignment party. No, I did it
a couple of years ago with water because I literally
wanted to drink more water, but I also wanted to
be like water, which was more go with the flow.
(14:52):
You know, that was a good a good moove like
water and be more just sort of breeze z but
like a flowy flowy. Yeah, I know, but sometimes I
like the word breezy.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well, then you'd be like the wind.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, but I don't need to drink more wind or
consume more. Maybe I need to breathe better.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Well, I'm struggling with my word.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
But let's why through it.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I'm not a word person either. That's one of those
things that sounds really cool, but then I forget to
do it. So I'm actually glad that you brought it up.
And these are my thoughts. You can give me your
two cents. My first thought was, I want a word
that guides me towards enjoying and being in the moment
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more because my life is going to hopefully change more
in the next year or two, so I want to
be able to enjoy having the freedom that I have
now and all of the ways that shows up. So
I was thinking, yes, like that would be my word,
like say like say yes to things versus like I'll
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do it tomorrow or I'll do it later, or no,
I don't really want to go to that dinner because
I might regret when I can't do that. But then
I'm like, I don't want to say yes to everything.
Yes sounds like horrible. It's hard to have.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I mean, I get it, like say yes to more,
but I don't want to say yes.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah. Yeah. Well then I did that. I wrote that down.
I was like, I could tell that's on it. But
that was my track where I was going. Then I
was thinking the word savor of like savoring those moments.
I like that, you know, because I can take I
take time for granted a lot, and that also is
something that I don't like about myself. So savoring things
and that speaks speaks in so many ways, of savoring
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meals that I really like versus rushing through meals, or
savoring TV shows, or that I'm really enjoying versus like
binging them all at once. I mean, I could use
that in all different ways.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Well, we had our friend dinner the other night, or
a little couples dinner you Patrick, Gracie, her husband, and
me and mystery.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
He's a man, not a boy.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
True, And I was trying to savor that because we
don't all get together often in that way. And I
felt like we were gathered around the table and we
did little question cards and I was trying to savor
what everybody was saying, it's not a word I would
have used then, but I'm thinking about it now of like, oh,
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I feel like I savored the night, and I'm glad
I did because it was fun and special.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
So all those moments. But then here's my other thought.
So that's one word. My other thought was kind of
a boring word. My thought was capable because I've been
doing some things lately that have felt very overwhelming to
me but also are very simple tasks that adults do.
But I've been doing them and it's been giving me confidence.
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And I mean, like I had to like call and
cancel my insurance because I'm now on my husband's insurance plan,
or I have to like go to the store and
order contacts, I have to pay my quarterly tax, stuff
like that. I put that stuff off because I feel
overwhelmed by things that are elusive to me. So then
I thought capable too, because this year I want to
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feel more capable of doing tests like that and feeling.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Which one feels more in alignment cop you savor or capable.
You can also have two words.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
No, that's cheating, Okay, I need a double word that
means both of those things to say, capable of savoring.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
No, because that wouldn't be a word of the year.
But I think it's okay if you want to have two,
you don't have to have like strict rules around it
just being one word.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I know it feels like a lot of work to
do both of those things.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
So okay, Well, which one feels more important to you
for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I want to choose savor, but I need to choose capable.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Okay, I will support that. Yeah, I think that capable
is a really good word, and I think you'll do
a great job of savoring things no matter what. Thank you,
you are capable.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Of making that decision. Yes, I don't even need your help.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
We got there. I think that struggling with the word
is very normal. You could probably take more time with
it and journal through it and even see what just
resonates with you more emotionally. But I see how happy
or proud of yourself you are finishing some of those tasks,
and I'm like, oh, I want you to have more
of that this year and know that you are capable. Well,
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I think between those three words that we just shared, alignment,
capable and savor, maybe that'll help someone pick a word.
But if you are trying to journal through things, you
can reflect on twenty twenty four. What did you go through?
What are some lessons, what did you lean into, not
lean into? What are your future goals? And then again
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what just resonates with you emotionally? And then if you
are debating between if you any meaning miney mo.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
That is and then chosen for the next year, you
figure it out.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yes, and you got that one on deck ready to
take it on. So what this sort of stuff does though,
is it helps you just create the life that you want.
Do you have to have a ward of the year
to have a good year?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
But is it going to hurt you?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And if you want to be intentional about living, then
I highly recommend you get a word of the year
and you get your friends together if you want to
have a vision board party, because there's benefits in that
for sure. Like when we've gotten together and done it,
it's something that well, it's an activity for you and
your friends or you and your kids. I love that
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my daughter is doing it and my kids are Haitian.
If you're new to listening, you know, I'm white, my
kids are black, and this year I finally ordered vision
board magazines that are African American. They've got it's like
a book full of stuff, which we were going to
grocery stores or getting different magazines and trying to find things.
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But now on Amazon they make it so easy. If
you just type in vision board book. There's so many
pre made vision board books that are ready to go,
and they have all different kinds of photos and quotes
and different things that go with the vision board theme
and you're good to go because magazines are so expensive,
and then you may get a few things that are
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useful out of there, and then maybe some weird recipe.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I think the last time we did it, I was like,
why isay magazine twenty dollars? Right? And then you get
one picture out of it. This is a waste that
this is.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You're going to pay twenty dollars, but you're going to
get stop full of stuff and they have it on Amazon.
And this year I got like glu glue tape. It
sort of looks like those wide out little machine things,
but it's glue, which to me seemed easier than a
glue stick or tape. And I got scissors. You can
order all the supplies on Amazon get the total. You
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can split it with your friends if they're coming over,
but if you're the one hosting, just like make it
easy and you have everything there and you just put
on a fun movie, bake some cookies, pop some popcorn,
and it's a way to connect. Then you've got your
friends doing it. Then there's accountability because I kind of
know what's on your board, and it just makes the
whole goal setting process not daunting, more fun, more social.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
More exciting.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, a moment you want to savor, and then you'll
know everything on your board you are capable of well,
and then you share and it'll feel in alignment.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well, you share it with your friends, and then they
also know. I feel like a lot of times we
just don't have those conversations with our friends. It's a
thing that we think about on our own or we
journal about it. But then your friends know what your
goals are and what you want to do with the year.
Like I remember the first year we did it, you
put a cat and then you got Maggie, and it's like, oh,
I know that that was one of your things, or
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I don't know what I had on my board. But
when those things happen it's just a man I had
more special. It's like, I remember when we were talking
about that.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
You know what you put a man?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I did? Oh, that's I did in that year I
met Patrick. Yeah, I put a cat.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You put a man.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
To be very you might have been married at the time,
so I was okay, yeah, you wouldn't have put a
man on yours exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
So dry January. That's an unexpected thing that popped up
for me this year. I didn't plan on doing it.
It just was the thirty first and I thought, oh, okay,
I'm going to do dry January. So the guy that
I'm dating he does it every year, and then you're
doing it, and I thought, well, why why would I not? Okay,
(23:45):
that seems doable to me. And you know, I have
dabbled in like the mushroom drinks and some of those
non alcoholic beverages, and they've been really nice. I don't
really know exactly what they're doing, but I like them.
It's fun to just make a cocktail and you still
feel like you're doing something fun and you can put
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it in a cute glass. It doesn't have to have
the alcohol.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I feel like because I've bought they were buy one,
get one free at Publics, which is a grocery store.
If you guys don't have a public Poppies, you drink poppy.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I know what you're talking about, but I haven't ever
had it.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
They're just like little sodas, and I think they might
have probiotics in them or something, but not enough to
like make a difference. However, I bought them and they
take They have crazy flavors and they're really good. And
I started putting them in cute little cups with like
a fun little straw. And it brings awareness to me
(24:39):
that sometimes when I'm having a glass of wine, if
I'm with friends or whatever, it's just because I want
to have something, not because I really want to have
the glass of wine. So it's a good practice, I
think to notice, Am I wanting wine or a margarita
or whatever because I really want that? Or do I
just like want something fun in my hand?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I agree, because you want that. It's like comforting, sort
of like my coffee cup in the morning. I love
that feeling, and time I don't drink the coffee. Similarly,
I like the feeling of having a drink when I'm
with my friends. But what do I want more Do
I want that drink with my friends? Or do I
want better sleep? Do I want a clearer mind? Do
I want better physical health? Like the next day?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
And I'm like hmmm, But I even think sometimes it's
it's not like a comfort thing. It's a fun thing,
you know, like going out and getting it. It's like
something to do, and you can make mocktails that also
are to me the fun.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yes, comfort and fun yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
It's it could be multiple things.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
And then the benefits outweigh the negatives, which alcohol if
I had one drink didn't used to affect me negatively,
but as I age, it does. Like just one drink,
and if I'm out at a restaurant or a bar
and I don't know what all they're putting in it,
or what the quality of alcohol, or what are the
other mixers that are in there, I'm not sure. If
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I just order some fun drink, but I don't know
everything that it entails. Sometimes I just have that drink.
In the next day, I do not feel great. So
at least for the month of January, I'm going to
feel better and it's gonna I just want to see
how it goes. And I think this is the year
of probably me drinking less and less and less, which
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is weird because I just always thought I would dabble
in alcohol, like I've never felt the need to not,
and as I get older that just starts to change.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well, is it that you are feeling the need to
not or that you're caring less about it?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I guess I'm caring less about it. I guess I
have less of the desire. But on a related note,
which just the other day, the Surgeon General released a
whole thing about alcohol, saying that they should contain warning
labels for cancer, breast cancer, colon, liver. It's like, we
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obviously know that it can be better, but like, I'm
pretty sure this was a statement saying like even just
wandering because you hear, oh, a glass of wine a day,
it's good for you, keeps the doctor away.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Well, red wine is supposed to be like it's good
for your heart.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Right, And the Surgeon General was saying no, no alcohol,
and it needs to have a label sort of like cigarettes.
So then I'm like, have we been misled? No? We
get misled on sugar?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
And wait are they say no to all?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Let me pull up what I had alcohol is the
third leading preventable cause of cancer in the US, yet
many Americans are unaware of this risk. The proposal would
require congressional approval that has sparked debate, with some industry
groups arguing that existing labels are sufficient, which I guess
I don't know what the existing label is. I should
to go look at a bottle of alcohol. This aligns
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with global efforts, as countries like Ireland plan to implement
similar warnings soon. And I feel like other countries they
get on board with things faster than we do.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
They regards to our health, yes.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
And what's like legal and not legal.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I just was curious if it's saying all alcohol, because
when we went to Italy and I noticed the difference
one everybody is having alcohol all the time. It's such
like it's not just part of our culture, it is
like their culture there. To me, they drink more than
I've experienced people in America drinking. However, they are somewhat
(28:27):
healthier over there, it seems. But I never once felt
sick or bad from drinking over there, and I think
part of that is well, I think the main part
of that is how they're making their wine and their
drinks there versus how we are doing it, so I
don't know if it's talking about certain kinds of alcohol.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Okay, the whole January reporter just pulled this up. It
says they noted the current warning label, which cautions against
this is what the current warning label says. It cautions
against drinking during pregnancy, operating heavy machinery or a car
causing quote health problems, and that hasn't been updated since
it was first introduced in nineteen eighty eight. So here
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we are.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
We've learned some twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
There's no language yet shared for the up data label,
but the report points out that alcohol consumption is linked
to an increased risk of at least seven types of
cancer breast, colon, rectum, liver, mouth, throat, larynx, and esophagus.
I don't know why I stuttered on.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
That one, and then you got nervous with the selfie
issued did?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
There are forty seven countries that carry warning labels on alcohol.
South Korea's label specifically mentioned the cancer risk, and beginning
next year, Ireland's going to carry a cancer specific warning label.
So I guess that is what he's pushing for, that
we would have a cancer label now to your question,
Kat about which like is it is that on a
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bottle of wine? Is it only on hard liquor? But
it says here many people out there assume that as
long as they're drinking at the limits or below the
limits of current guidelines of one a day for women
and two for men, that there's no risk to their
health or wellbeing. But the Surgeon General says that data
does not bear that out for cancer risk. So is
(30:28):
this specifically with cancer, not with you know?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
But is it saying like you have either fifty percent
more likely to get this or like a three percent
I mean three percent? Still?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I mean, I don't know. Those numbers are not there.
It doesn't say it here, and I just read through
the entire article.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I'd be curious to see what happens with that.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I mean, I didn't read through the entire report. I
read through the article at people dot com talking about
the report. So, but it says here he called for
alcohol to carry warning labels for cancer, saying it causes
nearly one hundred thousand cancer cases and approximately twenty thousand
cancer deaths every year. Wow, So I do have those numbers.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Okay, that's it.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
But I don't know the percentages. And obviously everybody's body
metabolizes so many different things, and depending on what you're
predisposed to or other lifestyle choices, like you know, it's
also tricky. But for me, I'm like, Okay, if I
know that something could be increasing my risk of getting cancer,
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why am I going to continue to drink it every day?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I could say that for so many things though, Like
your phone gives you cancer, that's what they say, Like
using a cell.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Phone, I know, but I tell you, what are you getting.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Rid of your phone? As well? I tell you I
actually am using a lane light.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Now, No, but what are we calling him your boyfriend?
He doesn't ever put his phone to his ear. Oh no, so,
But also he has a whole story which he can share.
I'll wait to have his permission. But he has been
impacted by cancer similar to me, but his and I
don't know. I can't even imagine going through what he
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went through. But he has implemented certain changes. And he's
also very passionate about not just the cell phones, but
and he uses a cell phone. Don't get me wrong,
He's not out there, but he doesn't He'll always have
it on speaker or he'll use headphones but with a wire.
He doesn't use use AirPods.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
He doesn't, which, like, you know what, I think that's
a conspiracy anyway, So good for him.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
What is the conspiracy?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I the conspiracy is that they're always making us buy
new things, like you have to have AirPods. Now my
phone doesn't even have a headphone jack, so I had
to buy a thing to put in my phone, adopt.
But then I could to buy adapter to an adapter
because my headphones have the old So I am getting
(32:57):
frustrated with the fact that we have to continue to
buy all this new stuff, and when I feel like
my grandparents probably use the same set of headphones.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Their whole entire lives, not us, No, not us.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I have to get a new part on everything, and
then your charger dies, and so I know that it's
not why he's not getting the air pods, but I
do really commend him for that battle he's fighting.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
He just got a new iPhone, So yeah, that's not
how I know about those adapters, because he had to
order something so that his headphones.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Would all new chargers.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
M that's why I'm not going to get a new phone.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Well, destly they're going to make your phone not work anymore.
You have to watch that documentary on Netflix. It's called
like buy This or Buy or Buy More, something about buying,
but it's all about consumerism and how it has like
old presidents and CEOs and people high up in companies
like Amazon, Adidas, Apple. They're talking about the things that
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they they left the companies obviously else they'd get fired
from their job for doing this. All the things that
they did when they were working there that they were like,
I morally can't work there anymore because of how this
is impacting people in the environment.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It wasn't in alignment.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
It was not in alignment with them with who they
wanted to.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Be, and they were capable of walking away. And now
I bet they savor.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
The good job.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Like what I said there, see you guys.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
It's a good documentary though. You should watch it.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
No, I think I'm actually going to watch it later today.
You don't know the name.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
It's called by Buy Something. I want to say it
was like a top on the top ten Netflix.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Well, tell people where they can find you and I'll
look it up so that people can know.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
You can find me on Instagram at kat Van Buren
and Van Buren was the eighth president and his nickname
was Little Van. Yeah he was short. Yeah, it was
like five two or something.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
So it's called by now the shopping conspiracy is that it.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yes, it's so good. Do not watch it if you
are sensitive to like the recycling crisis and stuff like that.
To me, I learned a lot and it was helpful
and brought me awareness.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
But don't watch it if you're there.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Are people that get really worked up by, like I mean,
because it's it exposes a lot of issues with recycling's
a scam.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Oh, boyfriend's already he's very disappointed in this because he
recycles and does a lot like at his anything. Oh no,
he already knows. He's like, I'm he's starting to not
freak out about it as much because he's like, it
doesn't even really matter.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
You should have him watch it too, because I really
liked they ended it in a good way that was
like we can fix this problem. But what they were
talking about is companies cannot put the recycling or the
afterlife of the product on the consumer because we recycle
it and it still is going to landfills and pollution.
There should be a plan when you're making a product
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for the afterlife of it.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Right, we need to be thinking all the way through.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
That light bulbs used to last for like seventy five years,
and a group of light bulb people got together and
they're like, people aren't buying enough light bulbs. We need
to make these last not as long. So that's why
lightbulbs die when they die. Now, they could last our
whole lives.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I plan to live past seventy five.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Okay, well you would only have to buy two light bulbs.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I'm just kidding. So it says here that this documentary
is about exposing the dark side of consumerism, shedding light
on how modern tech companies, clothing designers, and e commerce
businesses get people to buy more. Like Hot was saying
there with the light bulbs, it's crazy stuff. Shady who
invented the light bulb?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Thomas Edison boom God, I just got nervous.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I'll love random trivia.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I can't get two questions wrong in one?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Did you watch The Gilded Age? No? On Max?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
It's such a good show, Like is it coming back?
I need another season of it? If there was any
era you could live in which would it be.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Well, what I don't know who the Gilded Age is.
What is that?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
It's like late eighteen hundreds. Oh no, but I would
want to be Gilded Age high society.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
You don't want to be poor in New York.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Well I wouldn't when I would want to be high
society that also cared about other people, not high society
that only wanted to mingle like I, just because I
would want the comforts of life in the late eighteen hundreds,
I don't that they had at least the most comfort.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Sorry the comforts of life that they had like I did.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I wouldn't want to live I know. Since this is
all hypothetically speaking, I'm just saying I would like to
be like, have the pretty dresses and maybe go attend
to the balls. But I don't want to be all
wrapped up in the balls where I only talk to
people that have the same amount of money as me.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
But that's what the guilt. I can't talk to you,
you don't go to the right.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Or you're not your family name is not even if
you have the money. So the thing is that was
a time where new money was coming into New York,
and it actually they had more money than some of
the old money. But the old money didn't care because
it's like, you're not start, you don't have a family name. Yeah, yeahs.
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So anyway, during one of the episodes of The Gilded Age,
Thomas Edison was in it because the light bulb was invented,
and that's what maybe think of the Gilded Age. But
I don't know if another season is coming out. Since
we're talking about shows that.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Are good, is that a newer show?
Speaker 1 (38:40):
It says that it's been renewed for a third season. Oh,
it's going to come out in twenty twenty five. HBO
confirmed the third season will return in twenty twenty five,
but no specific release date has been set. Well, when
that comes out, I will savor it. So anyway, what
what era would you live in? Well, I don't know,
because when is it wonderful life? That movie is that
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like the forties, nineteen forty six.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
The forties. But then I'm like, I don't want to
live during World War Two? Like I don't, That's not
when I would want to go back. But I also don't.
Then I think like, oh, the fifties sounds really fun.
But then I'm like, I like being able to have
a credit card as a woman and have a job
in both like.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I mean, but talk about late eighties hundreds.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, you be going to the balls in your corset and
then going home and having a baby.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
So I don't know. I think it would be fun
to visit those time periods, but I wouldn't want to
exist my whole lifetime in them. You know what, Maybe
the eighties I would have liked to been longer. Living
in the eighties, I only lived like twenty days in
the eighties. Like the eighties and nineties, I wish I
was an adult in the eighties and nineties versus a kid.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
That would have been a good time to be in radio.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
The nineties would have been such a fun time to
be like a young adult.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I feel like, yeah, I was in high school then,
but yes, to be out of college.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, like twenty five in the nineties, I.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Mean, you could like go to the airport and do
whatever you want there because before those before oh that's
what you're summer eleventh, Well, you.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Have to get through security to go to the airport.
You could just go there and hang out.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, or if you were like taking someone to the airport,
you could walk them to their gate.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah. I when I first flew on an airplane, my
parents walked me to.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Well, as a parent, you can still do that now
you need to, but you have to go through a
whole process. Yeah, if your child's flying alone. But yeah,
no you could just like walk in.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Well, yeah, we can't chase people to the airport and
yell at them right before they're going on their flight
and have that moment anymore, because you have to have
a ticket to get.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
In right, like you have to go buy chick on Friends.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, as I was thinking, and I haven't even seen
that show, it's a famous scene. How do you know
that it's the famous scene? I know scenes from Friends
because you know I already talked about them all the time.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Okay, Well Helpsmeller having the day that you need to have,
and when you come up with your words, let us know.
We want to know. She's at kat van Buren. I'm
at Radio Amy, and you can email us at four
Things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com. I got
the coolest email Top five top five coolest email of
my career. I got it this week and are going
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to share it on Thursday's Four Things. I'm also going
to talk about botox, Well, my relationship with botox right
now in this moment, and face face fit, face call it.
You can say face Gym, face gymnastics, face Pilate's, face yoga,
or face fitness.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I was gonna say face Gym is a real place,
I think in like New York.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, I've not been, but I've seen it. I want
it's like inside. I feel like when you and I
were there at where do we go shopping that one day?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
That no, and we got lip gloss and sunscreen is
what we bought? Sun screen? Yeah, we got I got
a lip glass and sun screen.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
We got that Bobby Brown lip gloss that will like
turn a different color depending on your skin tight pH
and then we got that Goop sunscreen. That stuff's good.
I feel like those were two good purchases.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
They were, but it's like we went to New Oh,
but then we went to Zara. Okay, that's all. We
went to York. Yeah, I know it's more fun to
buy stuff it Zara in New York than here.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
You're right, it was nord Strum, but there's that whatever
we're talking about. A second ago, faced Gym, it was.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I was in North Trump.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Maybe it was Blooming Mills. Actually I don't know, but
it was an inside sort of like a dry bar
can be inside of a department store.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Well, maybe we'll go on another trip and go to
face gym. Well.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Also, what I'm saying is I'm doing face fitness on
my own from YouTube, and i sit in front of
the mirror and I'm trying to relax certain muscles and
exercise other ones, and it's going to keep me from
getting botox at least for a little bit. How well,
I mean, I've gotten botox the last however many years,
(42:53):
and I think I need to dial back.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Well, I don't know if this is going to take
away if you're going to say this on your thursdaypisode
so you don't have to answer this, But how long
of a period of time do you want to spend
not getting it until you realize if it's worth it
or not. Because I'm in that same boat where I'm
trying not to get botox, and I can't just be like,
oh three months, No, I need to give myself a leap.
I need to take a year break. I feel like
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to really see if I want to go back and
get it.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, I don't know that I haven't answer that question
fully because I don't know how long it's going to
take for it to fully be out of my system.
So I think there's some parts where I can tell
that it's out, but other parts I think it's still there.
So once it's fully metabolized and gone, then i'll know.
(43:42):
But also I'm be doing my face fitness, so you'll
never know. Maybe the face fitness starts working and I
don't know, but i'll know. I guess by calendar how
long it's been, and I'll think, well, there's no way
there's some left there, and then I can make a
decision on if I want to continue face fitness or
get botox, but get it done in a more mindful,
(44:06):
conservative way of Okay, I'm only going to get this
many units, and I'm only going to do it this often,
instead of just okay, what do you think I need
to have done? And then anytime I see movement, I'm like, oh,
I think I need both yes, because that's the part
that didn't feel in alignment with me, and since this
is my year of alignment, if something is feeling off,
(44:28):
I'm going to pay attention to it and try to
implement change instead. Of just continuing down a path that
do I think botox is bad for everybody? No, I'm
not saying that at all because I don't know, and
I don't have the authority to say that. I know
that I have enjoyed it, maybe a little too much.
(44:48):
So I want to dial back and have a new,
like baseline where am I starting? Because also as I age,
one thing I do know and doctor Lucky, who's a
plastics surgeon here in town that sewed up my ear
and even my botox girl carry something we've talked about
before is you can over talks and then when you age,
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there's no undoing it because you've paralyzed the muscles in
a way. So when you get older, like when I
get into my sixties, the skin may sag more than
it would have if I didn't.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Get The muscles are so weak the botox correct so.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
You do have to be careful. The problem is I
feel like I just kind of need to start from
whatever my natural is. There's just been so so long.
Well I I am with it.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I have thoughts on that. So we can have a
botox conversation the other day. What we'll do a checkout.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Which doctor Lucky said the plastic surgeon. She said, I
think no more than thirty five units at a time.
Why is your mouth open?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Like so I forgot that people can't like hear me
jaw dropping because I don't know how much. I don't
think I get more than that. I think when I
was getting, I was getting like thirty. Well that's good,
but I know so many people, like young people that
get like one hundred, right, and then people the problem
they they I've seen those I'm sure that is on
(46:12):
TikTok has seen this stuff where they go around like
an office and say what do you get and wear
and how many units? And there's like twenty five year
olds that are like I get one hundred and fifty units,
and I'm like, well, I.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Do wonder about like is it thirty five everywhere? Because
some of those people. I've seen some of those videos,
and some of them are including what they get in
their like their head and their back of their neck
to release tension. Okay, but some of those videos are
just for their face, right, it's everywhere in their face,
like everywhere, yes, their neck, everywhere, their shoulders. People are
(46:45):
getting that's what I mean, the shoulder, But that's does
that count.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Well, yes, but there's it's one thing if you get
because I know people get botox from migraines and it's
used for all this other stuff. But people are getting it.
I forget what it's called, but they get botox and
like their shoulders are like their jaw or something.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
To like to look more feminine soccer.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
I forgot what the when?
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Really they could do poster exercises.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
But it's just like it is. It is interesting to me,
and we don't really Like I started getting botox and
I was like, oh, you're allowed to get this, it
must not be bad for you. Like I didn't do
any research on it.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
So exactly back to like the alcohol thing. Oh this
is legal and there's no warning. Let's not be bad
for us. We can have it every day. And now
they're like warning, never mind, FYI, this is cancer in
a bottle.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
And so do I care enough about getting botox to
take that risk? Like no, right now, I'm like, I
don't really think I care that much. I think I
was just I liked it and I was getting it,
but I do I don't have it. I don't like
look in the mirror and hate myself kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
It's good to notice when you shift and what you
care about, because if you want all that stuff, this
isn't about you not doing it or us or me
having any judgment or shame. I literally may do this
whole thing in four months from Now'll be like, you
know what, I need a one hundred fIF my shoulders,
Like I'm not coming from a place of this is.
(48:08):
This is me trying to figure out what feels in
alignment for me and navigating my way through it. But
it is interesting to see what I care about now
versus things I cared about a few years ago that
I thought, oh, you know, I'll probably always be dabble
in alcohol because again I don't have a problem with it,
(48:31):
and having walked through someone in my life that does
and can no longer have it, which I had never
walked closely alongside someone until the last few years, like
I know, and that's when I realized, because sometimes I
would be like, do I have a problem with alcohol?
Because like why am I? But then I realized what
that actually like and that I had the ability to
(48:52):
just cut it off cold turkey, And then not everybody
has that. There's just no way, like they want to
cut it off and they cannot. So that's very different
than what I'm saying. But I just kind of always
thought it would be in my life and I didn't
really care because I like that. I like that it's
fun and you know, fun drinks and friends, and I
wanted the option to do it. And now I just
(49:13):
don't really care about that.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I'll say this last thing goes back to that documentary
of Connects. Yes, and then marketing, and I think oftentimes
you or I never would have wanted something unless or
thought any had a thought that I needed or anything
unless somebody showed it to me. But if I didn't,
(49:36):
let's say I was getting the I wish I knew
what it did, like the shoulder or the jar or whatever.
I might not ever think anything negative or that I
want to fix my jaw until I see all these
people doing it, and then I'm like, oh, I need that,
And now I'm self conscious of it, but I'm not
really self conscious of it. That was That's almost like
(49:56):
a marketing, wellness culture, beauty culture way to get us
to buy more of their products.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Okay, so is it called trap talks or Barbie talks?
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yes, yes, yeah, it reduces pain and stiffness in the
neck and shoulders. It improves range of motion, It creates
a more elongated and leaner neck. It can improve the
definition of the shoulders and promote better posture, but so
can my three minute posta exercise.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
But I feel like when I've seen it, I didn't
know it didn't have that, which that's very interesting, But
it was more about the ascetic look of what it does.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
That's what the elongating Okay, the leaner it says, longer,
leaner neck, Yeah, and improved definition of the shoulders.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yeah, I just a Barbie. And that's so what you
said too, Like, I don't care that if you're doing
it, it feels right and it aligns with you and it's
not causing you harm. But I just like, I like
being in charge of my choices versus like, oh, I'm
making this choice and I didn't even make it for me,
that TikTok made it for me, you know what I mean.
(50:56):
So I mean, who knows, in six months I could
be getting it too, So then I'll eat my words.
But right now I.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Have to be making her Barbie Talks appointment.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
But right now I just am trying to be more
aware of what I want because I saw somebody else
have it, and now I feel like I'm lacking and
what I actually care about. I feel like we've actually
episoded up, like twenty minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah, I hope you're having the day that Okay, Bye
bye
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