December 12, 2023 • 13 mins
Amy & Kat both share how life experiences have helped them have more compassion and understanding for what someone else might be going through. Kat tells us the difference between a complaint and criticism (this is important to know for any relationship!)
Today's quote: “Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be a mile from them, and you'll have their shoes." ― Jack Handy
Listener email: Amy read a note from a listener who's had a hard year. Hopefully you feel encouraged after hearing it to have the holiday season you need to have.
HOSTS:
Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy
Kat Defatta // @Kat.Defatta // @YouNeedTherapyPodcast // YouNeedTherapyPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat and today's quote comes to us from Jack Handy.
Not quite sure who that is, but here it is,
before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in
their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you are
a mile away from them and you have their shoes.
I thought it was funny, but then also just to
(00:26):
take a beat before you think you can understand someone's situation.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Is that what you're taking from that?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I mean, obviously I'm taking away the funny part of it, like,
go ahead and criticize them, but that way you'll be
far from them. What I'm saying is, maybe let's not
criticize someone else because we don't understand what it's like
to be in their shoes. And I think that sometimes
like a healthy feedback or criticism. We've talked about that here.
(00:56):
I don't have criticisms even the right word, but feedback
is a good thing, even if it's not what you
want to hear. If it's delivered in a way and
you're open to receiving it, that can be okay. And
I don't know if it's just this time of year,
but sometimes I mean, I just feel like people can
be so critical about every little thing, and then you're
around family and.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
They're not doing things the way that you would do them.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, they're not going the way that you wanted. And
then just you know, that's another way of things can
get critical or we can just I don't know. We've
talked about low forms of connection, and when you're hanging
out with more friends and people and maybe get a
little bored as holiday Caesar's osbuch going on, you mayned up,
I don't know, talking about people more or criticizing more things,
And I think it's just if we can stay self
(01:37):
aware that would help that.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Do you want to know the healthy way of offering criticism?
According to one of the top marriage and couples researchers
and counselors in the world, obviously, yes, I think I've
probably talked about this before. But John Gotman has like
the Four Horsemen of Relationships. I did a whole series
on it on Unique Therapy.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So I mean people love that stories by ya.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Oh really it you did? Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
One of my friends even got the book after you
did it because he.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Has book a ton of books.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, anything, John Gotman does I would put a stamp on.
He has done a lot of research and knows a
lot about relationships, and I would trust anything he says.
But criticism is the first horseman of relationships, which would
be uh trait that would show up in a relationship
that says, hmm, this is not going to last. And
he talks about how criticism is more attacking somebody's character.
(02:30):
But it's okay to have complaints about situations and in
your relationship. It's healthy to have a complaint because you're saying,
I don't like this thing you did. Can we do
something different? Versus I don't like this thing about you.
That makes sense. Yeah, So complaints healthy depending on how
you present them.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Criticism not so helpful. Like it?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Thank you Kat, Thank you John. Yeah, got we I
have an email from Cheryl. She said, Hey, Amy, I
listened to your podcast with your cousin and I really
reson if that's the right word with your thoughts that
you can enjoy a holiday and also feel grief. My
dad passed away at the end of August, and my
mom is suffering from an aggressive form of dementia and
(03:12):
moved into a memory care facility just before that in July.
It's been a really hard year watching my parents decline
at the same time and then pretty much losing them together.
I'm divorced with two grown boys. We normally spend Thanksgiving
with my parents, so obviously this year was different. My
boys were going to be with their dad and his
(03:32):
wife of two years, and they graciously invited me to
join them, so I didn't have to be alone on Thanksgiving,
but I declined. It was a very nice offer, but
it was going to be awkward, so I decided I
was going to be alone and feel my grief. I
visited my mom and then cuddled up with my dog
and watched Hallmark movies. I feel like after I listened
(03:52):
to your podcast, this was the right decision for me.
It's okay for me to take time to feel the
sadness of what I have lost this year. I appreciate
your podcasts. Listen to every episode of Four Things and
Fifth Things. Thanks for sharing your heart, Cheryl with Cheryl,
Thank you for sharing your heart, because I think that
this is going to resonate, which yes, that's the right
word with other people that potentially might need to take
(04:16):
some space this holiday season and decline some invitations and
to feel okay with it and hopefully And this is
what my cousin Amanda and I were talking about, and
this is an episode from before Thanksgiving that went up
and I was on her podcast. Actually her podcast is
called Soul Sessions, and we were just talking about giving
(04:39):
yourself the permission to take space if you need it.
And sometimes we feel like we need to fill up
the calendar or our friends will be like, oh no, no, no, no,
you don't need to sit at home alone. That's oh
like that's sad, please come, please come, And then we
feel like, oh, yeah, that would be sad. I need
to go. But it's actually okay to take space for
(04:59):
your self and to feel what you need to feel
and process and be a little secluded if you need
to be. But it's just in Kat, I'm curious about
your take as a therapist. But I mean, there is
a part where that can go too far. The pendulum
can swing to where suddenly maybe you are too secluded
because we do need community and need people, but you
(05:20):
also can take time alone. And you, Cheryl, realize you
have had quite the year and other people listening, I
know you have two and if you need some space
this holiday season. You're allowed to take it, and hopefully
people in our lives get that and we'll be like,
oh yeah, cool, cool, I'll call you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And you don't even have to get it or understand it.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I think respecting it, respecting that you might want to
spend that day by yourself versus with my family, because
that might actually bring more grief and sadness, not even
being with somebody else's family and seeing.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That because it's a reminder, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I also think a lot of times, not all the time,
and it doesn't have to be all of it. But
if I was saying to you, oh my gosh, you
can't spend Thanksgiving by yourself, come to come to my
family's house, that might be a little bit about my
discomfort about you being sad versus your actual feelings, because
I don't know what you're actually going through, so my
(06:13):
invitation like, no, you can't, you have to come, just okay,
you're going to come at ten d D. If I'm
like pressuring you into that, that might be about my
discomfort about.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Your experience when I may like I don't like that
you're sad. Coming up literally, I will be alone on Christmas,
and I know I have an invitation to come to
your Famili's and a couple of other things, and I
honestly don't know how I'm going to feel that day,
and so maybe I leave it a little bit open
(06:43):
and know that I feel pretty confident about the people
that I have in my life now. Would get that
if if I'm comfortable with it, that's all that matters.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
And I can respect that you can make a decision
for yourself as an adult, even though I in my
head I'm like, oh, I don't want it to be alone,
but it's what you want to do with your day.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well, And you and I were talking through some things
before we started recording about my life, and you had
some opinions on it, right, But the way you shared
it was in such a healthy way that I was
able to receive it, And I'm like, yeah, this is
great information. I like hearing how you think I should
handle this, and now I have that to also sit
(07:23):
with and consider. But in at the end of the day,
you also know that I'm an adult and I may
need to walk through certain decisions I need to make
and figure it out for myself. Yeah, but I like
having your input.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, I could have said it that way too, I do.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I don't want to ever tell you how you should
how I think you should do something. It's more I
would like you to consider this, and if you don't,
I understand because I'm not you and I don't know
what I would do. I always say like, I don't
know what I would do in made up situations because
I'm not in them. So I don't know what I
would do in your experience, in whatever it is, because
(07:59):
I'm not in your shoes. So I can't actually say
I can say what I would hope I would do well.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And sort of this could go back to when we're
talking about criticizing something. Yeah, like you could easily come
in and criticize certain decisions that I have made.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
But I could make those decisions too, totally. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
So, yeah, I think I've really worked on because I
haven't always been like that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's been like, I don't understand why you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I mean, I've been the person who was a judge
and thought that I knew better than everybody, and then
I went through things and was like I know nothing.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Oh, you know. Same the last few years for sure,
and that's the beauty of life and life experiences and
growing and yeah, evolving is you. Yeah, you have more compassion,
You're less judgmental. You could say certain things like nothing
will shock me. I used to probably gasp at certain things,
and now I'm like, oh yeah, okay, all right, so
(08:55):
tell me more, or would you for breakfast? Like this
is okay? Cool? Like there are just so that people
feel comfortable with whatever they're saying, because I think that
sometimes although you know, we know you have your faces.
Kat has face which is so funny because she's a
therapist and I'm always picturing you being in sessions and
I'm like, you gonna make that face.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I remember when one of my best friends she was
dating this guy and she they broke up like a
million times. It was one of those situations and she
couldn't get away from him. Now I understand why, but
I remember telling her like, I can't talk about this
with you anymore, like I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't know what exactly I said, but it wasn't kind.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And when I went through a situation that wasn't the same,
but I felt similar, where like I'm attached to this
person that I know is not good for me.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I apologized to her.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I don't know if I called her said didn't person
or what, but I said, hey, I realized that I
was really judgy and I was not a good friend
to you, and I made all these assumptions that I
would do something different and I couldn't know that until
I knew it, and I didn't do something different. So
I'm sorry, and I wish I was a better friend
to you then, And that one experience has been so helpful,
(10:05):
because that's not just with guys and dating. Now, I'm thinking,
I don't know what I would do in any situation
if I'm not in it. So I can be kind
and talk about these things and offer insight that I
would hope, but I can't say, like, you need to
do this, and I would do this, and I can't
believe you did that.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I love that, and I love the growth, and I
love going back and making that amend.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, with my cringe thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I have those moments too where I've you know, and
the beauty of it is when someone comes back to
you with that, whether they're coming up to you or
you're the one going to do it. Sometimes you're like,
so I'm being so nervous about a little amend that's
kind of similar that I had to do, and I
didn't know how it was going to be met, and
it was met with such like oh, thank you for
acknowledging that. And then it's just there's such comfort in
(10:51):
knowing like, oh wow, we can just show up authentically
now with each other, and there's it creates more space
for a genuine connection.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So I love that. Kat.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Where can people find you.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
On Instagram at cat dot Defada and you can follow
my podcast You Need Therapy at You Need Therapy podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And then download her podcast You Need Therapy. Wherever you
listen to podcasts, you can subscribe or follow whatever they do.
Now I don't know it's I think it's follow now,
follow and you can rate and review Kats. She got
some nice reviews lately, elvrag on her. She's like, stop,
I don't want to do it, but it is fun
to get like an encouraging review. I got a really
(11:33):
encouraging email, even that one, reading that one sharing about
this from Cheryl, Like sending a note like that of
hearing something that gave you or affirmed a decision that
you made, because that meant a lot that even with
all she has going on in her life, she stopped
and took the time to send a note like this
(11:54):
and that she listens to the fifth things and to
four things. Those types of things are really encouraging. So yeah,
just send us all the notes four Things with Amy
Brown at gmail dot com. They don't have to be
affirmations or encouraging. You can also send questions. I was
sort of just making a joke, but.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Usually people only send emails or of you and rate
things when they had bad experiences.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So it's nice when you get the positive.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, you know, or to know that like something you
said or a matter guest that I had on like
what Amanda was saying my cousin, or what you've said,
or any guest something we put out into the world
did something. Because sometimes I feel like we're on here.
It's like blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Charlie Brown? Okay, So yeah, send emails four Things with
Amy Brown at gmail dot com. I it's for the
fifth thing. Try to put fifth thing in the subject
line or somewhere in there, because I searched that into
the search tab to weed out. There's just a lot
of not even emails for y'all, but just people get
a hold of your pott. It's like interview pitches. Like
(12:55):
the email is just full of all kinds of stuff
and I miss things, so put stuff in the subject
line and then I am at Radio Amy. And if
you're looking for any last minute gifts, I recommend you
hit up four Things dot com. I know shipping is
going to get tight before Christmas, like as of now,
so this week you could order things and they support
(13:17):
Haiti specifically the Four Things Gratitude Journal. One hundred percent
of the proceeds are going to education through Project Meta Share.
There's a four Things puzzle, there's four Things totes, there's
four Things zipperpeltures, all kinds of four things stuff so
cute and all gives back to Haiti. I'm not making
any money off of it, and it's just a really
cool gift that keeps on giving. It gives back. So
four Things dot Com and hope y'all are having the
(13:38):
day that you need to have.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Bye bye,
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat and today's quote comes to us from Jack Handy.
Not quite sure who that is, but here it is,
before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in
their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you are
a mile away from them and you have their shoes.
I thought it was funny, but then also just to
(00:26):
take a beat before you think you can understand someone's situation.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Is that what you're taking from that?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I mean, obviously I'm taking away the funny part of it, like,
go ahead and criticize them, but that way you'll be
far from them. What I'm saying is, maybe let's not
criticize someone else because we don't understand what it's like
to be in their shoes. And I think that sometimes
like a healthy feedback or criticism. We've talked about that here.
(00:56):
I don't have criticisms even the right word, but feedback
is a good thing, even if it's not what you
want to hear. If it's delivered in a way and
you're open to receiving it, that can be okay. And
I don't know if it's just this time of year,
but sometimes I mean, I just feel like people can
be so critical about every little thing, and then you're
around family and.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
They're not doing things the way that you would do them.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, they're not going the way that you wanted. And
then just you know, that's another way of things can
get critical or we can just I don't know. We've
talked about low forms of connection, and when you're hanging
out with more friends and people and maybe get a
little bored as holiday Caesar's osbuch going on, you mayned up,
I don't know, talking about people more or criticizing more things,
And I think it's just if we can stay self
(01:37):
aware that would help that.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Do you want to know the healthy way of offering criticism?
According to one of the top marriage and couples researchers
and counselors in the world, obviously, yes, I think I've
probably talked about this before. But John Gotman has like
the Four Horsemen of Relationships. I did a whole series
on it on Unique Therapy.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So I mean people love that stories by ya.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Oh really it you did? Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
One of my friends even got the book after you
did it because he.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Has book a ton of books.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, anything, John Gotman does I would put a stamp on.
He has done a lot of research and knows a
lot about relationships, and I would trust anything he says.
But criticism is the first horseman of relationships, which would
be uh trait that would show up in a relationship
that says, hmm, this is not going to last. And
he talks about how criticism is more attacking somebody's character.
(02:30):
But it's okay to have complaints about situations and in
your relationship. It's healthy to have a complaint because you're saying,
I don't like this thing you did. Can we do
something different? Versus I don't like this thing about you.
That makes sense. Yeah, So complaints healthy depending on how
you present them.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Criticism not so helpful. Like it?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Thank you Kat, Thank you John. Yeah, got we I
have an email from Cheryl. She said, Hey, Amy, I
listened to your podcast with your cousin and I really
reson if that's the right word with your thoughts that
you can enjoy a holiday and also feel grief. My
dad passed away at the end of August, and my
mom is suffering from an aggressive form of dementia and
(03:12):
moved into a memory care facility just before that in July.
It's been a really hard year watching my parents decline
at the same time and then pretty much losing them together.
I'm divorced with two grown boys. We normally spend Thanksgiving
with my parents, so obviously this year was different. My
boys were going to be with their dad and his
(03:32):
wife of two years, and they graciously invited me to
join them, so I didn't have to be alone on Thanksgiving,
but I declined. It was a very nice offer, but
it was going to be awkward, so I decided I
was going to be alone and feel my grief. I
visited my mom and then cuddled up with my dog
and watched Hallmark movies. I feel like after I listened
(03:52):
to your podcast, this was the right decision for me.
It's okay for me to take time to feel the
sadness of what I have lost this year. I appreciate
your podcasts. Listen to every episode of Four Things and
Fifth Things. Thanks for sharing your heart, Cheryl with Cheryl,
Thank you for sharing your heart, because I think that
this is going to resonate, which yes, that's the right
word with other people that potentially might need to take
(04:16):
some space this holiday season and decline some invitations and
to feel okay with it and hopefully And this is
what my cousin Amanda and I were talking about, and
this is an episode from before Thanksgiving that went up
and I was on her podcast. Actually her podcast is
called Soul Sessions, and we were just talking about giving
(04:39):
yourself the permission to take space if you need it.
And sometimes we feel like we need to fill up
the calendar or our friends will be like, oh no, no, no, no,
you don't need to sit at home alone. That's oh
like that's sad, please come, please come, And then we
feel like, oh, yeah, that would be sad. I need
to go. But it's actually okay to take space for
(04:59):
your self and to feel what you need to feel
and process and be a little secluded if you need
to be. But it's just in Kat, I'm curious about
your take as a therapist. But I mean, there is
a part where that can go too far. The pendulum
can swing to where suddenly maybe you are too secluded
because we do need community and need people, but you
(05:20):
also can take time alone. And you, Cheryl, realize you
have had quite the year and other people listening, I
know you have two and if you need some space
this holiday season. You're allowed to take it, and hopefully
people in our lives get that and we'll be like,
oh yeah, cool, cool, I'll call you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And you don't even have to get it or understand it.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I think respecting it, respecting that you might want to
spend that day by yourself versus with my family, because
that might actually bring more grief and sadness, not even
being with somebody else's family and seeing.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That because it's a reminder, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I also think a lot of times, not all the time,
and it doesn't have to be all of it. But
if I was saying to you, oh my gosh, you
can't spend Thanksgiving by yourself, come to come to my
family's house, that might be a little bit about my
discomfort about you being sad versus your actual feelings, because
I don't know what you're actually going through, so my
(06:13):
invitation like, no, you can't, you have to come, just okay,
you're going to come at ten d D. If I'm
like pressuring you into that, that might be about my
discomfort about.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Your experience when I may like I don't like that
you're sad. Coming up literally, I will be alone on Christmas,
and I know I have an invitation to come to
your Famili's and a couple of other things, and I
honestly don't know how I'm going to feel that day,
and so maybe I leave it a little bit open
(06:43):
and know that I feel pretty confident about the people
that I have in my life now. Would get that
if if I'm comfortable with it, that's all that matters.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
And I can respect that you can make a decision
for yourself as an adult, even though I in my
head I'm like, oh, I don't want it to be alone,
but it's what you want to do with your day.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well, And you and I were talking through some things
before we started recording about my life, and you had
some opinions on it, right, But the way you shared
it was in such a healthy way that I was
able to receive it, And I'm like, yeah, this is
great information. I like hearing how you think I should
handle this, and now I have that to also sit
(07:23):
with and consider. But in at the end of the day,
you also know that I'm an adult and I may
need to walk through certain decisions I need to make
and figure it out for myself. Yeah, but I like
having your input.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, I could have said it that way too, I do.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I don't want to ever tell you how you should
how I think you should do something. It's more I
would like you to consider this, and if you don't,
I understand because I'm not you and I don't know
what I would do. I always say like, I don't
know what I would do in made up situations because
I'm not in them. So I don't know what I
would do in your experience, in whatever it is, because
(07:59):
I'm not in your shoes. So I can't actually say
I can say what I would hope I would do well.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And sort of this could go back to when we're
talking about criticizing something. Yeah, like you could easily come
in and criticize certain decisions that I have made.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
But I could make those decisions too, totally. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
So, yeah, I think I've really worked on because I
haven't always been like that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's been like, I don't understand why you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I mean, I've been the person who was a judge
and thought that I knew better than everybody, and then
I went through things and was like I know nothing.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Oh, you know. Same the last few years for sure,
and that's the beauty of life and life experiences and
growing and yeah, evolving is you. Yeah, you have more compassion,
You're less judgmental. You could say certain things like nothing
will shock me. I used to probably gasp at certain things,
and now I'm like, oh yeah, okay, all right, so
(08:55):
tell me more, or would you for breakfast? Like this
is okay? Cool? Like there are just so that people
feel comfortable with whatever they're saying, because I think that
sometimes although you know, we know you have your faces.
Kat has face which is so funny because she's a
therapist and I'm always picturing you being in sessions and
I'm like, you gonna make that face.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I remember when one of my best friends she was
dating this guy and she they broke up like a
million times. It was one of those situations and she
couldn't get away from him. Now I understand why, but
I remember telling her like, I can't talk about this
with you anymore, like I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't know what exactly I said, but it wasn't kind.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And when I went through a situation that wasn't the same,
but I felt similar, where like I'm attached to this
person that I know is not good for me.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I apologized to her.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I don't know if I called her said didn't person
or what, but I said, hey, I realized that I
was really judgy and I was not a good friend
to you, and I made all these assumptions that I
would do something different and I couldn't know that until
I knew it, and I didn't do something different. So
I'm sorry, and I wish I was a better friend
to you then, And that one experience has been so helpful,
(10:05):
because that's not just with guys and dating. Now, I'm thinking,
I don't know what I would do in any situation
if I'm not in it. So I can be kind
and talk about these things and offer insight that I
would hope, but I can't say, like, you need to
do this, and I would do this, and I can't
believe you did that.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I love that, and I love the growth, and I
love going back and making that amend.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, with my cringe thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I have those moments too where I've you know, and
the beauty of it is when someone comes back to
you with that, whether they're coming up to you or
you're the one going to do it. Sometimes you're like,
so I'm being so nervous about a little amend that's
kind of similar that I had to do, and I
didn't know how it was going to be met, and
it was met with such like oh, thank you for
acknowledging that. And then it's just there's such comfort in
(10:51):
knowing like, oh wow, we can just show up authentically
now with each other, and there's it creates more space
for a genuine connection.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So I love that. Kat.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Where can people find you.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
On Instagram at cat dot Defada and you can follow
my podcast You Need Therapy at You Need Therapy podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And then download her podcast You Need Therapy. Wherever you
listen to podcasts, you can subscribe or follow whatever they do.
Now I don't know it's I think it's follow now,
follow and you can rate and review Kats. She got
some nice reviews lately, elvrag on her. She's like, stop,
I don't want to do it, but it is fun
to get like an encouraging review. I got a really
(11:33):
encouraging email, even that one, reading that one sharing about
this from Cheryl, Like sending a note like that of
hearing something that gave you or affirmed a decision that
you made, because that meant a lot that even with
all she has going on in her life, she stopped
and took the time to send a note like this
(11:54):
and that she listens to the fifth things and to
four things. Those types of things are really encouraging. So yeah,
just send us all the notes four Things with Amy
Brown at gmail dot com. They don't have to be
affirmations or encouraging. You can also send questions. I was
sort of just making a joke, but.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Usually people only send emails or of you and rate
things when they had bad experiences.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So it's nice when you get the positive.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, you know, or to know that like something you
said or a matter guest that I had on like
what Amanda was saying my cousin, or what you've said,
or any guest something we put out into the world
did something. Because sometimes I feel like we're on here.
It's like blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Charlie Brown? Okay, So yeah, send emails four Things with
Amy Brown at gmail dot com. I it's for the
fifth thing. Try to put fifth thing in the subject
line or somewhere in there, because I searched that into
the search tab to weed out. There's just a lot
of not even emails for y'all, but just people get
a hold of your pott. It's like interview pitches. Like
(12:55):
the email is just full of all kinds of stuff
and I miss things, so put stuff in the subject
line and then I am at Radio Amy. And if
you're looking for any last minute gifts, I recommend you
hit up four Things dot com. I know shipping is
going to get tight before Christmas, like as of now,
so this week you could order things and they support
(13:17):
Haiti specifically the Four Things Gratitude Journal. One hundred percent
of the proceeds are going to education through Project Meta Share.
There's a four Things puzzle, there's four Things totes, there's
four Things zipperpeltures, all kinds of four things stuff so
cute and all gives back to Haiti. I'm not making
any money off of it, and it's just a really
cool gift that keeps on giving. It gives back. So
four Things dot Com and hope y'all are having the
(13:38):
day that you need to have.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Bye bye,
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