August 14, 2025 • 35 mins
Amy and Kat are tackling your listener questions this week that came in through Instagram. By the way, are you following the show on TikTok or IG yet? @FeelingThingsPodcast is the handle for all things. Today they cover FT merch updates, Kat’s resistance to watching FRIENDS, and the reality of mixing friendship with work. The big topic is whether ChatGPT can be a substitute for a real therapist. Since Kat is a licensed therapist, she definitely has thoughts on this. They discuss the troubling ways AI can give harmful advice to teens. They also weigh in on Biopelle serum, linking their outfits, and keeping SIB (“sorry, I bitchy”) alive.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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All right, break it down.
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M but Swayne, sometimes the best thing you can do
it just stop you feel things. This is Feeling Things
with Amy and Kat.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Happy Thursday, Welcome to Couch Talks, our Q and a
episode to the Feeling Things Podcast. I'm Amy and I'm Kat.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
And quick disclaimer before we get into today's question that
although we are answering your questions multiple today, this still
does not serve as a substitute for therapy.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And our first question actually is about therapy and AI.
So I know that this is a hot topic amongst
a lot of people, and we put up a Q
and a box on our Instagram Feeling Things podcast if
you want to go follow shout out and Bretta sent
in this question thoughts on using chat GPT as a
therapist And I've had conversations about this with my friends.
(01:10):
My sister she used it to kind of work through
something she had going on recently. Yeah, she had a
feeling that she hadn't ever quite experienced before, and it's
her story to tell, so I'm not going to give
the details. But it was just this sort of out
of body feeling, but she knew the exact situation that
was happening, and she typed it all into her chat
(01:31):
GBT like the episode, her experience where she was the
people and then what she was then feeling, and it
gave her information that was very helpful. Now she does
do talk therapy, but in that exact moment, it was
good for her to have that explanation of what her
(01:52):
brain we'll call it that or her body was likely
doing to help her navigate the situation. And it was
very very informative, and then she could take that and
then expand upon it like herself and then also in
her talk therapy. So it was a tool for her
in that way. So I'm curious to know your thoughts, Kat,
being that you are a licensed therapist, what you think
(02:14):
about people using chatchept as therapy, because there are some
that are relying solely on it, like a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Of people, and I have a little bit of well
I think I have a lot of bit of understanding
of why somebody would do that it's less vulnerable and
it's free essentially if you have Internet, So I get
why that would be appealing. I've heard a lot of
horror stories around this, and actually today I was scrolling
(02:41):
on Instagram and most posted it was a video I
think from his podcast and them talking about how there
was a research study recently that found that chatchpt was
actually giving people really dangerous advice or helping them in
dangerous ways. And I think the researchers posing as like
thirteen year old kids asking chat GBT certain things and
(03:05):
at first, you know, you'll type in like I want
to do drugs. I don't know what they said, but like,
if you type in something like that, chat sheept is
going to send you something back that's like the war
warning issues with doing drugs and what that could do
and how that would cause impairments in your life. But
they said within a couple minutes you could prompt it
to bypass those like safeguards, and that chat sheept was
(03:30):
helping people figure out how to hide if you're doing.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Drugs, as like hide paraphernalia from hide if you're like high,
hide that you're high. Well, I was just thinking what
they say stick it in your underwear drawer.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Oh, let's talk like but yeah, they might be doing that.
But it said it said that it was able to
give advice on topics such as hiding drug intoxication at school,
how to restrict your diet, and how to generate a
suicide note, and that all they had to do a
lot of them is just say this is for a
friend or I'm doing research for a presentation for school.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Oh, so that bypasses anything that is built into that
to be like, hey, we probably shouldn't talk about this
or go speak to an adult or a therapist or
impal and.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
This is like that Chatbuten knows these kids are thinks
these kids are thirteen. So that's one reason that I'm like, oh,
this isn't the best thing, because you can coach it
to give you what you want, and not just in
dangerous situations like that, but you can probably coach it
to give you the feedback you want. You know, when
you go to therapy, you don't always get you always
(04:37):
hear what you want to hear.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Oh, I will agree that I think that I have
felt a vibe from my chat GPT that it wants
to make me happy. Yes, and I don't necessarily use
it for any therapy type stuff, but I mean I
have asked it certain questions before. Have you seen those
videos where people I think maybe we've talked about it before,
they're like, you want to see all my text messages?
Take my phone?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Read them all.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't care. Want to see my emails? Take my phone,
I don't care. You want to see my chat GBT history,
And they like throw their phone out the window and
they're like never because of how much they share with
chat GBT, which to me is also worrisome because we're
just like typing our lives away to this database, like
all of our information is somewhere and it's being gathered
(05:22):
and collected, and that part is creepy to me. And
I see how my sister used it as a tool
in a moment to get impossible information, and what was
fed to her was very helpful and it made sense
to her. It explained at least kind of what she
was doing in that moment or what was happening with
her body. But then it kind of stopped there. Now,
(05:43):
I do have another friend that is very, very, very analytical,
and I think likes the type of feedback that Chat
GPT gives them versus a therapist because they just kind
of want to know boom boom boom. Just give me
the basics and then I'll figure it out. And I
kind of want the the hard facts of why wood is.
(06:05):
But I know therapy is just such deeper inner work
that I don't think a computer could ever understand. Right.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, And actually I think this is one of those
things where it is a both. And now in the
back of my head, I'm like, is it worth the risk?
That's what I think about, Like, if it's help if
it's doing this for these thirteen year olds, thirteen year olds,
is it worth the risk? I have some thoughts and
feelings on that. But at the same time, the both
end of it, it can be helpful, and there's things
(06:34):
that it cannot do and it should not substitute for.
And I actually have a post from on site, which
is a what would you call it a retreat center,
therapy retreat center here in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, I've gone. I went with my kids and my
ex husband when we did our little co parenting retreat.
That's where we went and it was very helpful, I
will say too. You mentioned your last source was Motion
and him sharing that study. So in case people don't know,
he has a newsletter and an Instagram and he has
a podcast called mo News and his name is Motion.
(07:09):
He's a really great resource for news and things that
are going on in the world that's delivered in a
non biased, non toxic way. So I just wanted to
shout him out because.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
We love him. I've found him through you.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, he's great.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So this comes from on Site and their Instagram handle
is Experience on Site and it's just a carousel and
it says what AI can do and what it can't
do when it comes to therapy, and I really like
how they put the both end in here kind of
So AI can't give you the growth that comes from struggle.
AI can solve your problems, but you won't become stronger,
(07:42):
more resourceful, or better at pattern recognition because you didn't
do the hard work yourself. AI can give you a
good starting point. It can write a decent first draft
of a book, article, or speech that you can then
edit and prove with your own voice. And I think
that sometimes they're talking I think more broadly, but a
lot of times in therapy you're working out a script
(08:03):
to go share with somebody. If there's something you want
to talk about with somebody, A, I will feed it
to you and you can do it back and forth.
But they will just feed it to you versus therapy.
I think you there's more. It's coming from you first,
and you're working on it together with a person. A.
I can't create genuine human connection. A. I can't provide
the mutual vulnerability or authentic emotional I don't know how
(08:27):
to say this word.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Oh, fun, give it to me because you know me
and words.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It's oh my gosh, we have to cut this out.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
No, no, no, pie for no. You give me that word, oh, resonance,
Well you know what word?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Hey, I don't. I don't know. My brain wouldn't compute
that when I just saw it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well, you're you're being vulnerable right now. And I will
say a word I struggle with. It's similar that I
can't ever say. I still can't say it to the state,
like if I come across it, if I'm reading a
story of work. And I've been doing this since I
started the Bobby Bone Show in two thousand and six,
and I used to do the Hollywood Skinny and a
lot of times celebrities would end up in jail and
they would have to release themselves on their own. And
(09:13):
it's like this word like bail recognizance, recogniance, recognizance. I
don't know the word. I still don't know it, and
I don't I don't know why I can't ever know it,
but that's the word like, and I would have to
say it in the skinny and I couldn't ever say it.
So now if I ever come across the word, I
just skip over it, and I'm like, yeah, they had to.
It was up to them to release themselves. They got
(09:37):
themselves out on bail. I don't even know what that
word is. It's not a common word that we use,
but I've come across it many times over the years,
and now I just skip it. And you would think
that after a certain point, I would just learn how
to pronounce it, but my brain doesn't there doesn't compute it. Yeah,
that's how I feel with comprehend it or so how
to spell.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Restaurant, I can't couldn't tell you, or guarantee, couldn't tell
you how to spell it.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh, I can get you to guarantee, but I cannot
spell license, driver's license. Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
But like, also, I've looked it up a million times millions.
For some reason, I keep coming back to, like I
can't spell guarantee or restaurant.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
You know who can spell it for me?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Then what they can do? Okay, a couple more sides
of this anyway, the word was resonance. We'll move on
from that one. AI can't help you resolve conflict and relationships.
Even if AI gives you the perfect words to say
to your partner after conflict, your partner will know it's
not really you apologizing. AI can't help you resolve conflict
(10:57):
and relationships. Even if AI gives you the perfect words
to say to your partner after conflict, your partner will
know it's not really you apologizing, removing all humanity and
authenticity from the interaction. AI can help you reflect on
your own feelings. AI can ask questions to help you
identify what you're feeling, what you might have done wrong,
or what outcomes you want, so you can enter the
(11:18):
conversation knowing yourself better. I appreciate that, and I think
that's very helpful. And I've used AI to like help
me get creative about things I've had. It helped me,
like brainstorm stuff. What in therapy I think it misses
in those spaces, is you know how your therapists can
be like is that really what you think? Or is
(11:38):
that like really how you feel? Or let's like get
a little deeper in that you don't have that interaction
that challenges you because it can't actually like feel you
in your experience. And here's the last one. AI can't
mean what it says, which I think is very interesting.
AI might tell you exactly what you want to hear,
(11:59):
but it can I can't say it from a place
of genuine human understanding and connection. It's better to be
surrounded by those who tell you what you need to hear,
even if it's uncomfortable. I can be available any time
of the day, so it's there when you need it.
But it's also not always what you need.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
So I guess in a nutshell, it's a tool and
we should treat it as such.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, and let's not Yeah, we have that, but we
don't have to get rid of this other thing which
is therapy, which is therapy.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So there you go our thoughts on chat GPT. You know,
my daughter and a lot of kids are using it
in school. But I could tell with some of her schoolwork. Okay, fine,
that's one thing. But I could tell she was responding
to me about something kind of personal. And I got
the text and it seemed like it was copied and
pasted from chat CHEPT to your point of like your
(12:53):
if you have an argument with a spouse or a partner,
they're going to know well, same thing with mom and kids.
I can't blame her for going to chat GPT to
like if she doesn't know how to express what she's
trying to say, and maybe she's asking for the words,
but then you need to take a look at them
and see, like, is this what I was trying to say?
And can I say it in my own words? She
just copied and pasted it and texted it to me
(13:16):
as if she wrote it. And also chat GBT talks
in a different way than teenager's text, so I knew
right away. I'm like, this is a lot of words,
and none of them are abbreviated or like bro or
anything like that. So I just was like, oh, dang.
So I've been trying to nudge and encourage her. I
(13:36):
get that y'all are going to use this. I mean,
they're the first generation that has it at their fingertips
for school, and now if they're using it for hard
conversations and copying and pasting it with friends like we're,
communication for these kids is gonna be really, really, really
hard because you need to your favorite thing, be able
to critically think through something and know how to give
(13:59):
an honest response. Again, I think using it as a
tool and a guide of like, hey, this is what
I'm trying to say, and I would like to say
it in an articulate, thoughtful way, can you help me?
And if they give a guide, but then you take
that and pull what's authentic to you and throw out
the rest not just no thought at all behind it,
(14:19):
just oh thanks for the answer, copy paste send, Because
that just I felt the disconnect.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
But also I think I get it because we didn't
have this option. We don't have an option of it
is uncomfortable and it's difficult. It's effort, it's energy. It's
hard to do all that on your own, to critically
think on your own, to come up with that stuff
on your own, to be in those conversations on your own.
So if I had something at my fingertips that I
could just use and bypass all that, I think I
(14:46):
probably would. So I think that they're put in a
really hard position where they have to push past that
urge to do that, and that sounds just as hard
to avoid taking that easier road. That sounds like most
people would say, like, yeah, I want the thing that
makes life easier. Now in the long run, does it
make life harder? I think in some areas. But this
(15:08):
is a larger conversation obviously, and I'm not an AI expert,
but we've been just like social media, we were given
this tool without any safeguards on how this is going
to affect us or like regulations. It's just like willingly
out there, how do you regulate that. I don't think
they thought about how that could affect society in a
bad way. It just was how it could make it better.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
It's like I love the future, and then sometimes I'm
annoyed by the future, and then let me tell you,
like I'm scared. Yeah, but I also like a lot
of the conveniences we now have because like cars and
creations and inventors and all the things. Thank you, thank
you for your genius brains. And then there's also some
things being created with genius brains that I'm like.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
No, we could do without AI.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I feel like that song like that. I don't even
know really specifically what Bye Bye American Pie is about.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Don't sing it, yeah, Houston all kind of Hey, I
just know that song.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
But something that just loops in my head sometimes when
I'm thinking about how things change is the day the
music died. I mean maybe it's because I also work
in radio, and I feel like radio's had such a
shift and it's like, oh man, it's just not what
it used to be and I hate that. And then
I immediately my head goes.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
The day the music die.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Do you have like a soundtrack in your head?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Is it just me? Surely if you'd ask my husband that,
you would say one hundred percent. I always have songs,
But there's like the same songs at certain parts of
the day, Like when I'm taking a shower for some reason,
there's two songs that I always I end up singing,
well three, just the national anthem?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
What national anthem? What in the shower? Did you know?
I sang that once at a baseball game, Yeah, in
front of like people. That was weird because I can't sing.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
That's just the first one, so okay, And then the
second one is a song that I wrote when I
was little. I had a keyboard and it had like
the pre written songs, and I would pretend like I
was playing those songs because I never really learned how
to play the piano. Piano, and I wrote this song
and I taught Patrick some of it too, so like
I'll sing it and I'll like his part, and then
he sings it. And then the third song is furglicious
(17:21):
very delicious death for delicious deaths.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Too, okay, cry okay, it sings my humps.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Okay, so those are my three Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Humps mahumshusa hums.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Is that your shower song?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Her start the day song? So with you, that's interesting
that you have such a variety, like you have a
patriotic jam, a personal, personal written jam by you, and
and then you even taught your husband certain parts, and
then you have a black eyed pea song. Yeah, or
is that for free? It's just free, It's not black
(18:04):
eyed peace. Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So I would say I have a soundtrack, so every
part of the day, probably a different song pops into
my head.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
How do you start the day with the national That
is hilarious? Okay, I don't know. I just think for me,
it's more so certain thoughts come in and then a
song attaches to it.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
The song is about the day that music died. I've
heard this recently. What is that about?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
That's why I said, I don't know the exact That's
why I today and I don't. It might be about
something totally different, but I'm assigning it to the end
of something like.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
It was about like a serious thing in history, though.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I'm pretty sure it Vietnam related.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Sang that song.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Bye Bye this American by Jove for.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Chevit to did you say bye bye Miss America?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Bye? No, miss American Pie?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Okay? I was like, I think I thought you said
bye and I was like wait.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I was like, please tell me it's American Pie.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
We'll come back to that.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
We'll circle back. Shannon's not here to help us google
and figure it out, but yeah, don McLean. He that too,
at least sings it. I don't know who wrote it,
but I have assigned it to just anytime something is
changing or feels like not the good old days, and
(19:26):
like my brain goes, well, that's the day.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
The music I'm trying to harmonize with.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You nailed it.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
About a plane crash.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Maybe it's when Buddy Hawlly and Okay, now this is
just off the dome because I'm recalling the guys, all
those artists that got on the plane. And yeah, Ritchie,
did you ever watch La Bamba the movie?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Never heard of it, never.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Heard of it.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
La Bumba, La Bamba, La Bamba.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Maybe I said la Bumba, but I meant la Bamba.
So they were all playing a show somewhere and someone
had a bus and then there was a plane and
the people that decided to ride back on the plane.
The plane crashed and they died. But everybody on the
plane was super talented and had such a bright future.
Now it's all coming back to me.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
You were like, I said something big in history. Did
you say Vietnam War?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, because I was trying to just piece together something.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Is that saying like time period?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I think it maybe was before that. I'm not a
not a history yeah, teacher cat, but I feel like
maybe Vietnam was that seventies and I feel like this
was maybe sixties. And now, Shannon, you are appreciated. Yeah, Shannon,
if we have ever taken your googling job for granted,
we wish you were here, because this would be really
(20:51):
helpful information so that people could know. Okay, well Cryoka
is doing video and wow also sending us facts. Now,
remember that that song is tied to that, But in
my brain, that particular line is tied to you know,
whenever there's something like changing life and it's changing at
(21:11):
a faster pace like change used to happen, and now
I feel like the savvier we get with technology, the
faster life is going to change at a rapid rate. Okay.
Don maclean's nineteen seventy one song American Pie is an
eight and a half minute Oh whoa nostalgic look at
(21:33):
the nineteen sixties and a tribute. Oh so it did. Yeah,
it happened in the February third, nineteen fifty nine. So
this was before Vietnam boom. We shouldn't doubt ourselves. We
are history buffs. We had that right.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I had this spaw in my head. I shouldn't say this,
say it. Say it's just I was about to ask
if you were alive, and then I was like, I
got time.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, definitely was not alive in nineteen fifty nine.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Mom is older than that, is she? Yes, probably my
mom wasn't even born yet, she wasn't born. I think
I got my time periods mixed up.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
My mom was you're younger than me, so that yeah,
makes my mom was born sixty three. Okay, so everybody
on the plane was. It was Buddy Holly, Richie Vallens,
and J. P. Richardson died in a plane crash. But
whenever I see Richievallence, I think of La Bamba and
his mom. When she learned about it, she screams Ritchie
(22:34):
or maybe it was his brother. It's been a long
time since I've seen that movie, but that's another one
you should watch.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
But is it from the it's from the sixties.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
No, it was probably made in the eighties or nineties,
and it's looking back, I know. But it's a movie
made about his life.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Oh okakay, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
You know you know how they do that.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, I know they do. But I was like, I'm
not watching a movie from the sixties.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
No, no, no, no, no, no, it was later. But
I mean it's about that plane crash.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
We do have a couple of other questions that were
sent in that we can just do rapid fire. Since
we covered like the chat GBT as a therapist was
the main one. Sarah asked, where can I get your
shirt with the feeling things quote on it? Which the
shirt says feeling things on the front and on the
back it says have the day you need to have
And Kat and I have been wearing it and testing
it out and we don't have a date because we're
still wearing it and testing it out. We're testing out
(23:23):
lots of things. Yeah, but I would say that that
has stood the test.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yes, you will eventually be able to like that one.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
That you're likely going to see. But we're being very
very careful about what we do because if we put
it out, we want you to love it because there's
something we want to be intentional. Yes, because there's some
stuff that we thought we were going to like and
then the more we were with it, we're like, oh wait,
we don't like this. And then there's also some stuff
that I didn't like in the beginning that now I'm like,
(23:52):
oh wait, I do like this. So just product development,
our product and development team US is working on that.
So we will let y'all know. Because Claire also send
him a question when is merch dropping? So that covers
her question too. Elizabeth said, when is Kat gonna watch Friends?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Well?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Probably right around the time she watches La Bamba and
a Pretty Woman. Never when are you gonna watch Friends?
I thought that signed it to you?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You did?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Why would Elizabeth ask that?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Maybe because we just talked about Okay, I don't remember
you signing that to me, but if you did, I'm
very sorry. I forgot to do my assignment and I
don't see myself ever watching it because I just don't.
I have no urge. I feel like the time has passed.
It's so good, though. I think there's there's other shows
that I gravitate towards. I just don't know if, like,
(24:44):
I didn't watch that, so I don't have the same
like nostalgic feelings about that show, so it doesn't feel
fun to I'm like, oh, I can't want to go
watch Friends.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
You know, Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'm so sorry. That's okay. I wish I could be
excited about it.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
You also didn't trust me about snail serum, and and
then you tried it and you're like, Okay, this is awesome.
So I feel like that's how you might be about Friends,
which leads me into my next question from Jessica. Is
the Biopel serum worth using even if not using the
entire routine. Yes, I would say you don't have to
use the biopel routine to have benefits from the snail serrum.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, that's how I first started using. It's just using
the snail serum.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
So Jessica, yeah, you can keep doing your other stuff
and then just do the snail serrum treatments every once
in a while on top of your routine. And if
you do want to check it out, trycode Happy Happy
twenty five. You know sometimes you just like.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Test out books.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well, both of those codes have worked at one point
or another, and hopefully they still work. Just don't pay
full price because it goes on sale. Amazon will have
it on sale every once in a while with their
big Prime Day stuff, and then Biopel will do sales.
So I'm just here to tell you I don't care
how you get it, just get it on sale because
if you're trying it, if I'm recommending it to you,
(26:03):
I want you to try it at a good at
a price, I mean it's pricey because it is a
medical grade, luxury skincare treatment, but I just want you
to get it at a discount, so try code Happy
Happy twenty five or wait for a sale and then
stock up. Or on our Feeling Things podcast Instagram, which
(26:24):
is Feeling Things podcast, go follow it because occasionally we
do biopel snail giveaways and you never know when you
might get lucky. Next question is from Kimberly. Would you
ever consider linking your clothes and accessories? Oh, speaking of
our Instagram, We've thought about that and we've tried. We're
just like not, we'll try.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
What I think I want to say is like, yes,
when you're excited about something, you will and you have before,
but I don't think it'll ever become something that we
are doing. Like every single time we have an outfit on,
we're linking it right, So.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I don't want to hear those people, but I feel
like I have more outfits I'm excited about that I
don't like, I am excited about it, and then I
don't link it, Like I don't know why it's not
my go to, because I think it'd be helpful. I
actually ran into a listener at Ero's the other day.
I was getting a smoothie and we were talking about
like this colosstrum stuff and I was like, oh, I
think I have a code for that. I said, but
(27:15):
I haven't shared it because I don't know. I don't
want to overload people. And she's like, well, you might
as well just give people the choice, like if they
want it, She goes, I know I would appreciate the
code because I'm buying it anyway. So if you had
a code, that would be cool. And I said why,
I don't want people to think I'm pushing that product. I mean,
I use it. I've used it every day for two years,
but I haven't and it's not a deal with the brand.
(27:36):
They just gave me a code, Like I'm not being
paid to post about them, I guess. But I guess
with my code, I would get a commission, which is
anytime you're posting, a lot of times there is a commission,
sometimes there's not. I'll just link whatever because I don't
I don't have a commissionable link, or I don't have
a code, I'll just share like oh you want this
jacket or whatever. But the info I got from her,
(27:59):
I guess. The feedback I got from her, I was like, oh,
I looked at it with a different perspective of like well,
maybe I'm not bothering people. I guess if they want it,
they could take it, and if they don't, they keep going.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
And I guess it's not every post you're posting a link,
which I don't think is going to be you. But
I think both of us have been trying to be
more active and it just does not come natural to us.
So I sometimes you'll see us post fifteen things in
one day and then we'll go silent for like a week.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, I'm like, here, what links do you want? Because clearly,
like I have the dopamine or whatever, I need to
be able to do the links, and I get them
out and then yeah, I won't do it again for
another couple of months. And also too, I think I
have a fear of being I feel like just some
some of it is just it's overwhelming how much is
out there, and there's this over consumption. And since the
(28:49):
word that's coming to mind is insufferable, is that Yeah
that's a strong word. Though, that is a strong word.
But I sometimes I'm just like over it. Yeah, but
also I'm part of it. We'll shoot yeah, like that's
not a fun place to be. Well, because I don't
want to be adding to the problem. Oh, someone did
send us a DM that said, hey, could your next
(29:10):
deep dive be on influencers? Oh, someone did send us
a DM deep dive b on influencers and like all
the links that they post and if they actually use
(29:32):
the stuff, And I'm like, well, there's no way for
us to really know. And then also I replied back
and I was like, oh, I know, that's such a
sticky place, Like I know, I have people that I
follow where I'm just like I kind of get the
ick about it. And I said, and then also sometimes
I am that person and there are things that I
use and I genuinely love, and then I get the
opportunity to partner with a brand on it, like it
would be silly for me to say no. Now, I know,
(29:54):
sometimes I've done more than I've wanted. And then I
had to pull back because it didn't feel in alignment
with me. Not because I did genuinely use the product
or like it, but it just felt like too much
and I didn't want to be part of the too much.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, that's why you can never commit to that being
your full time job, because you would like quit your
job every other week. Like now you have the freedom
to post when you want and not when you don't.
But if you are just an influencer, you would be
like the world.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
And that's your only income. Well, but I do think
if like I was, I'm trying to think of a situation,
like I was in a dire straits desperate situation, like
I would I'd be like, Okay, you want to an
alignment with me? I would? I think I would find
the drive and the desire to post more like if
that was what I needed to do, I wouldn't do
(30:38):
anything that didn't feel in alignment. That I guess depends
on how desperate I am. But I mean, that's what
this girl's asking about. And who knows those those influencers,
who knows their situation. Maybe they're desperate. Probably not, because
I can guarantee you they're probably making a ton of money.
They're making so much money it's crazy. Okay, So Kimberly, Yeah,
we've considered it, Ashley. We'll close with this one. Is
(31:04):
it hard working together and being friends?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Sib? Do I mean to answer? First? Yeah, we didn't
talk about this before, so answers, I was like, it's
the worst. What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
These are our real answers, even if we hadn't talked
about it beforehand. But you mean we just didn't like.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
What We didn't go through any of this before we
sat down. So you're getting this the first time.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
That like real, no matter what, but you're getting the.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Raw real That's what I meant.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, yeah, obviously, thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Obviously. Is it hard? I think, well, this is so new,
so right it has there have been hard parts, but
I wouldn't say it was hard. What's hard is finding
time to just hang out because I think the more
we're working together, the more the time we're together we're working,
versus the time we're together we're just hanging out. Right.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Oh well, I saw Kat twice this week already. But
really work work, so finding that balance I agree. And
then also I think because we know that work can
be a challenge for friendships, I think from the get
go we've been intentional about addressing things head on. So
we do have our fun little acronym like you mentioned SIV,
(32:20):
and I think that has helped us. That would help
us even if we weren't working together, like just as friends.
That has been a cool thing, but it definitely is
come in handy on workdays, and then I think just
being extremely thoughtful. And I know I keep using the
word intentional, but that's it thoughtful.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
This week, Oh you know what I was texting about
and I was like, I think you're over thinking this,
and you're like, no, I just but I want to
be thoughtful and I want to so you you really
are well.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I think that I've been in situations before where there
just wasn't the best communication and it can be it's
a real bummer, and I have to own my role
in that too. And so I also have learned like, oh,
how do I want to do things differently. I don't
think I'm trying to be super thoughtful. Same thing with you.
I think we want to be considerate of the other person.
Like I'm not like I need to be thoughtful about this.
(33:10):
I think it's coming naturally because I care about you.
But then I want to be really intentional with my
words so that it doesn't end up causing any tension.
So like, let's just talk about this openly, honestly and thoughtfully.
That way, then we don't muddy the water and there's
nothing lingering. I think that that would be the worst
thing for us if there was just something lingering, and
(33:31):
then we had to sit down and work together.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
If I was like, we're stenting you about something right now,
I would have Okay, this is how you guys can
know if there's something going on. I am not a
good liar so or faker or faker. Yes, I can't
fake things. I like feel so awkward. So if I
had to like fake liking you, I think that would
(33:52):
not be a good episode.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Noah, probs not Prob's not so. I mean, if you
are considering work with a friend, just keep acronyms in mind,
like ones that make you laugh.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
And I think it depends on the friend. Like I
have a lot of friends that I think that I
don't know that it would work as well, not that
they're bad friends, just because you can work with one
friend of isn't and you can work with exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah. So there you have it. There you go, Thanks
for well Q and A. If y'all want to send
in emails for couch talks, you can hit up hey
there at Feeling Things podcast dot com, and then you
can hit us up in DMS. We can pull questions
from anywhere, so if.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
You well, dms get lost easier.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
So I know, but I'm just saying if like I
referenced a couple of them today and then that was
from our question box. But I happen to think I'm
just saying, you never know if you just send connect
with us in whatever way, because you know, I also
would love a good voicemail, which we get, we get some,
we get some, not all of them, like are ones
that people want us to play, but they're leaving us
(34:53):
voicemails and I think that that's thoughtful. So I'll go
ahead drop that number now eight seven seven two o
seven to two oh seven seven see teamwork, teamwork makes
during work. So eight seven seven two o seven two
o seven seven. All right, that's the wrap on today's episode.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
We hope you the.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Day the muic dude, We hope you have the day
you need to have. Bye bye
Good.
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Happy Thursday, Welcome to Couch Talks, our Q and a
episode to the Feeling Things Podcast. I'm Amy and I'm Kat.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
And quick disclaimer before we get into today's question that
although we are answering your questions multiple today, this still
does not serve as a substitute for therapy.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And our first question actually is about therapy and AI.
So I know that this is a hot topic amongst
a lot of people, and we put up a Q
and a box on our Instagram Feeling Things podcast if
you want to go follow shout out and Bretta sent
in this question thoughts on using chat GPT as a
therapist And I've had conversations about this with my friends.
(01:10):
My sister she used it to kind of work through
something she had going on recently. Yeah, she had a
feeling that she hadn't ever quite experienced before, and it's
her story to tell, so I'm not going to give
the details. But it was just this sort of out
of body feeling, but she knew the exact situation that
was happening, and she typed it all into her chat
(01:31):
GBT like the episode, her experience where she was the
people and then what she was then feeling, and it
gave her information that was very helpful. Now she does
do talk therapy, but in that exact moment, it was
good for her to have that explanation of what her
(01:52):
brain we'll call it that or her body was likely
doing to help her navigate the situation. And it was
very very informative, and then she could take that and
then expand upon it like herself and then also in
her talk therapy. So it was a tool for her
in that way. So I'm curious to know your thoughts, Kat,
being that you are a licensed therapist, what you think
(02:14):
about people using chatchept as therapy, because there are some
that are relying solely on it, like a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Of people, and I have a little bit of well
I think I have a lot of bit of understanding
of why somebody would do that it's less vulnerable and
it's free essentially if you have Internet, So I get
why that would be appealing. I've heard a lot of
horror stories around this, and actually today I was scrolling
(02:41):
on Instagram and most posted it was a video I
think from his podcast and them talking about how there
was a research study recently that found that chatchpt was
actually giving people really dangerous advice or helping them in
dangerous ways. And I think the researchers posing as like
thirteen year old kids asking chat GBT certain things and
(03:05):
at first, you know, you'll type in like I want
to do drugs. I don't know what they said, but like,
if you type in something like that, chat sheept is
going to send you something back that's like the war
warning issues with doing drugs and what that could do
and how that would cause impairments in your life. But
they said within a couple minutes you could prompt it
to bypass those like safeguards, and that chat sheept was
(03:30):
helping people figure out how to hide if you're doing.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Drugs, as like hide paraphernalia from hide if you're like high,
hide that you're high. Well, I was just thinking what
they say stick it in your underwear drawer.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Oh, let's talk like but yeah, they might be doing that.
But it said it said that it was able to
give advice on topics such as hiding drug intoxication at school,
how to restrict your diet, and how to generate a
suicide note, and that all they had to do a
lot of them is just say this is for a
friend or I'm doing research for a presentation for school.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Oh, so that bypasses anything that is built into that
to be like, hey, we probably shouldn't talk about this
or go speak to an adult or a therapist or
impal and.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
This is like that Chatbuten knows these kids are thinks
these kids are thirteen. So that's one reason that I'm like, oh,
this isn't the best thing, because you can coach it
to give you what you want, and not just in
dangerous situations like that, but you can probably coach it
to give you the feedback you want. You know, when
you go to therapy, you don't always get you always
(04:37):
hear what you want to hear.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Oh, I will agree that I think that I have
felt a vibe from my chat GPT that it wants
to make me happy. Yes, and I don't necessarily use
it for any therapy type stuff, but I mean I
have asked it certain questions before. Have you seen those
videos where people I think maybe we've talked about it before,
they're like, you want to see all my text messages?
Take my phone?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Read them all.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't care. Want to see my emails? Take my phone,
I don't care. You want to see my chat GBT history,
And they like throw their phone out the window and
they're like never because of how much they share with
chat GBT, which to me is also worrisome because we're
just like typing our lives away to this database, like
all of our information is somewhere and it's being gathered
(05:22):
and collected, and that part is creepy to me. And
I see how my sister used it as a tool
in a moment to get impossible information, and what was
fed to her was very helpful and it made sense
to her. It explained at least kind of what she
was doing in that moment or what was happening with
her body. But then it kind of stopped there. Now,
(05:43):
I do have another friend that is very, very, very analytical,
and I think likes the type of feedback that Chat
GPT gives them versus a therapist because they just kind
of want to know boom boom boom. Just give me
the basics and then I'll figure it out. And I
kind of want the the hard facts of why wood is.
(06:05):
But I know therapy is just such deeper inner work
that I don't think a computer could ever understand. Right.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, And actually I think this is one of those
things where it is a both. And now in the
back of my head, I'm like, is it worth the risk?
That's what I think about, Like, if it's help if
it's doing this for these thirteen year olds, thirteen year olds,
is it worth the risk? I have some thoughts and
feelings on that. But at the same time, the both
end of it, it can be helpful, and there's things
(06:34):
that it cannot do and it should not substitute for.
And I actually have a post from on site, which
is a what would you call it a retreat center,
therapy retreat center here in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, I've gone. I went with my kids and my
ex husband when we did our little co parenting retreat.
That's where we went and it was very helpful, I
will say too. You mentioned your last source was Motion
and him sharing that study. So in case people don't know,
he has a newsletter and an Instagram and he has
a podcast called mo News and his name is Motion.
(07:09):
He's a really great resource for news and things that
are going on in the world that's delivered in a
non biased, non toxic way. So I just wanted to
shout him out because.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
We love him. I've found him through you.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, he's great.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So this comes from on Site and their Instagram handle
is Experience on Site and it's just a carousel and
it says what AI can do and what it can't
do when it comes to therapy, and I really like
how they put the both end in here kind of
So AI can't give you the growth that comes from struggle.
AI can solve your problems, but you won't become stronger,
(07:42):
more resourceful, or better at pattern recognition because you didn't
do the hard work yourself. AI can give you a
good starting point. It can write a decent first draft
of a book, article, or speech that you can then
edit and prove with your own voice. And I think
that sometimes they're talking I think more broadly, but a
lot of times in therapy you're working out a script
(08:03):
to go share with somebody. If there's something you want
to talk about with somebody, A, I will feed it
to you and you can do it back and forth.
But they will just feed it to you versus therapy.
I think you there's more. It's coming from you first,
and you're working on it together with a person. A.
I can't create genuine human connection. A. I can't provide
the mutual vulnerability or authentic emotional I don't know how
(08:27):
to say this word.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Oh, fun, give it to me because you know me
and words.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It's oh my gosh, we have to cut this out.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
No, no, no, pie for no. You give me that word, oh, resonance,
Well you know what word?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Hey, I don't. I don't know. My brain wouldn't compute
that when I just saw it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well, you're you're being vulnerable right now. And I will
say a word I struggle with. It's similar that I
can't ever say. I still can't say it to the state,
like if I come across it, if I'm reading a
story of work. And I've been doing this since I
started the Bobby Bone Show in two thousand and six,
and I used to do the Hollywood Skinny and a
lot of times celebrities would end up in jail and
they would have to release themselves on their own. And
(09:13):
it's like this word like bail recognizance, recogniance, recognizance. I
don't know the word. I still don't know it, and
I don't I don't know why I can't ever know it,
but that's the word like, and I would have to
say it in the skinny and I couldn't ever say it.
So now if I ever come across the word, I
just skip over it, and I'm like, yeah, they had to.
It was up to them to release themselves. They got
(09:37):
themselves out on bail. I don't even know what that
word is. It's not a common word that we use,
but I've come across it many times over the years,
and now I just skip it. And you would think
that after a certain point, I would just learn how
to pronounce it, but my brain doesn't there doesn't compute it. Yeah,
that's how I feel with comprehend it or so how
to spell.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Restaurant, I can't couldn't tell you, or guarantee, couldn't tell
you how to spell it.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh, I can get you to guarantee, but I cannot
spell license, driver's license. Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
But like, also, I've looked it up a million times millions.
For some reason, I keep coming back to, like I
can't spell guarantee or restaurant.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
You know who can spell it for me?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Then what they can do? Okay, a couple more sides
of this anyway, the word was resonance. We'll move on
from that one. AI can't help you resolve conflict and relationships.
Even if AI gives you the perfect words to say
to your partner after conflict, your partner will know it's
not really you apologizing. AI can't help you resolve conflict
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and relationships. Even if AI gives you the perfect words
to say to your partner after conflict, your partner will
know it's not really you apologizing, removing all humanity and
authenticity from the interaction. AI can help you reflect on
your own feelings. AI can ask questions to help you
identify what you're feeling, what you might have done wrong,
or what outcomes you want, so you can enter the
(11:18):
conversation knowing yourself better. I appreciate that, and I think
that's very helpful. And I've used AI to like help
me get creative about things I've had. It helped me,
like brainstorm stuff. What in therapy I think it misses
in those spaces, is you know how your therapists can
be like is that really what you think? Or is
(11:38):
that like really how you feel? Or let's like get
a little deeper in that you don't have that interaction
that challenges you because it can't actually like feel you
in your experience. And here's the last one. AI can't
mean what it says, which I think is very interesting.
AI might tell you exactly what you want to hear,
(11:59):
but it can I can't say it from a place
of genuine human understanding and connection. It's better to be
surrounded by those who tell you what you need to hear,
even if it's uncomfortable. I can be available any time
of the day, so it's there when you need it.
But it's also not always what you need.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
So I guess in a nutshell, it's a tool and
we should treat it as such.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, and let's not Yeah, we have that, but we
don't have to get rid of this other thing which
is therapy, which is therapy.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So there you go our thoughts on chat GPT. You know,
my daughter and a lot of kids are using it
in school. But I could tell with some of her schoolwork. Okay, fine,
that's one thing. But I could tell she was responding
to me about something kind of personal. And I got
the text and it seemed like it was copied and
pasted from chat CHEPT to your point of like your
(12:53):
if you have an argument with a spouse or a partner,
they're going to know well, same thing with mom and kids.
I can't blame her for going to chat GPT to
like if she doesn't know how to express what she's
trying to say, and maybe she's asking for the words,
but then you need to take a look at them
and see, like, is this what I was trying to say?
And can I say it in my own words? She
just copied and pasted it and texted it to me
(13:16):
as if she wrote it. And also chat GBT talks
in a different way than teenager's text, so I knew
right away. I'm like, this is a lot of words,
and none of them are abbreviated or like bro or
anything like that. So I just was like, oh, dang.
So I've been trying to nudge and encourage her. I
(13:36):
get that y'all are going to use this. I mean,
they're the first generation that has it at their fingertips
for school, and now if they're using it for hard
conversations and copying and pasting it with friends like we're,
communication for these kids is gonna be really, really, really
hard because you need to your favorite thing, be able
to critically think through something and know how to give
(13:59):
an honest response. Again, I think using it as a
tool and a guide of like, hey, this is what
I'm trying to say, and I would like to say
it in an articulate, thoughtful way, can you help me?
And if they give a guide, but then you take
that and pull what's authentic to you and throw out
the rest not just no thought at all behind it,
(14:19):
just oh thanks for the answer, copy paste send, Because
that just I felt the disconnect.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
But also I think I get it because we didn't
have this option. We don't have an option of it
is uncomfortable and it's difficult. It's effort, it's energy. It's
hard to do all that on your own, to critically
think on your own, to come up with that stuff
on your own, to be in those conversations on your own.
So if I had something at my fingertips that I
could just use and bypass all that, I think I
(14:46):
probably would. So I think that they're put in a
really hard position where they have to push past that
urge to do that, and that sounds just as hard
to avoid taking that easier road. That sounds like most
people would say, like, yeah, I want the thing that
makes life easier. Now in the long run, does it
make life harder? I think in some areas. But this
(15:08):
is a larger conversation obviously, and I'm not an AI expert,
but we've been just like social media, we were given
this tool without any safeguards on how this is going
to affect us or like regulations. It's just like willingly
out there, how do you regulate that. I don't think
they thought about how that could affect society in a
bad way. It just was how it could make it better.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
It's like I love the future, and then sometimes I'm
annoyed by the future, and then let me tell you,
like I'm scared. Yeah, but I also like a lot
of the conveniences we now have because like cars and
creations and inventors and all the things. Thank you, thank
you for your genius brains. And then there's also some
things being created with genius brains that I'm like.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
No, we could do without AI.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I feel like that song like that. I don't even
know really specifically what Bye Bye American Pie is about.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Don't sing it, yeah, Houston all kind of Hey, I
just know that song.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
But something that just loops in my head sometimes when
I'm thinking about how things change is the day the
music died. I mean maybe it's because I also work
in radio, and I feel like radio's had such a
shift and it's like, oh man, it's just not what
it used to be and I hate that. And then
I immediately my head goes.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
The day the music die.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Do you have like a soundtrack in your head?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Is it just me? Surely if you'd ask my husband that,
you would say one hundred percent. I always have songs,
But there's like the same songs at certain parts of
the day, Like when I'm taking a shower for some reason,
there's two songs that I always I end up singing,
well three, just the national anthem?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
What national anthem? What in the shower? Did you know?
I sang that once at a baseball game, Yeah, in
front of like people. That was weird because I can't sing.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
That's just the first one, so okay, And then the
second one is a song that I wrote when I
was little. I had a keyboard and it had like
the pre written songs, and I would pretend like I
was playing those songs because I never really learned how
to play the piano. Piano, and I wrote this song
and I taught Patrick some of it too, so like
I'll sing it and I'll like his part, and then
he sings it. And then the third song is furglicious
(17:21):
very delicious death for delicious deaths.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Too, okay, cry okay, it sings my humps.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Okay, so those are my three Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Humps mahumshusa hums.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Is that your shower song?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Her start the day song? So with you, that's interesting
that you have such a variety, like you have a
patriotic jam, a personal, personal written jam by you, and
and then you even taught your husband certain parts, and
then you have a black eyed pea song. Yeah, or
is that for free? It's just free, It's not black
(18:04):
eyed peace. Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So I would say I have a soundtrack, so every
part of the day, probably a different song pops into
my head.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
How do you start the day with the national That
is hilarious? Okay, I don't know. I just think for me,
it's more so certain thoughts come in and then a
song attaches to it.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
The song is about the day that music died. I've
heard this recently. What is that about?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
That's why I said, I don't know the exact That's
why I today and I don't. It might be about
something totally different, but I'm assigning it to the end
of something like.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
It was about like a serious thing in history, though.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I'm pretty sure it Vietnam related.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Sang that song.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Bye Bye this American by Jove for.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Chevit to did you say bye bye Miss America?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Bye? No, miss American Pie?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Okay? I was like, I think I thought you said
bye and I was like wait.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I was like, please tell me it's American Pie.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
We'll come back to that.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
We'll circle back. Shannon's not here to help us google
and figure it out, but yeah, don McLean. He that too,
at least sings it. I don't know who wrote it,
but I have assigned it to just anytime something is
changing or feels like not the good old days, and
(19:26):
like my brain goes, well, that's the day.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
The music I'm trying to harmonize with.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You nailed it.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
About a plane crash.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Maybe it's when Buddy Hawlly and Okay, now this is
just off the dome because I'm recalling the guys, all
those artists that got on the plane. And yeah, Ritchie,
did you ever watch La Bamba the movie?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Never heard of it, never.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Heard of it.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
La Bumba, La Bamba, La Bamba.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Maybe I said la Bumba, but I meant la Bamba.
So they were all playing a show somewhere and someone
had a bus and then there was a plane and
the people that decided to ride back on the plane.
The plane crashed and they died. But everybody on the
plane was super talented and had such a bright future.
Now it's all coming back to me.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
You were like, I said something big in history. Did
you say Vietnam War?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, because I was trying to just piece together something.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Is that saying like time period?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I think it maybe was before that. I'm not a
not a history yeah, teacher cat, but I feel like
maybe Vietnam was that seventies and I feel like this
was maybe sixties. And now, Shannon, you are appreciated. Yeah, Shannon,
if we have ever taken your googling job for granted,
we wish you were here, because this would be really
(20:51):
helpful information so that people could know. Okay, well Cryoka
is doing video and wow also sending us facts. Now,
remember that that song is tied to that, But in
my brain, that particular line is tied to you know,
whenever there's something like changing life and it's changing at
(21:11):
a faster pace like change used to happen, and now
I feel like the savvier we get with technology, the
faster life is going to change at a rapid rate. Okay.
Don maclean's nineteen seventy one song American Pie is an
eight and a half minute Oh whoa nostalgic look at
(21:33):
the nineteen sixties and a tribute. Oh so it did. Yeah,
it happened in the February third, nineteen fifty nine. So
this was before Vietnam boom. We shouldn't doubt ourselves. We
are history buffs. We had that right.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I had this spaw in my head. I shouldn't say this,
say it. Say it's just I was about to ask
if you were alive, and then I was like, I
got time.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, definitely was not alive in nineteen fifty nine.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Mom is older than that, is she? Yes, probably my
mom wasn't even born yet, she wasn't born. I think
I got my time periods mixed up.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
My mom was you're younger than me, so that yeah,
makes my mom was born sixty three. Okay, so everybody
on the plane was. It was Buddy Holly, Richie Vallens,
and J. P. Richardson died in a plane crash. But
whenever I see Richievallence, I think of La Bamba and
his mom. When she learned about it, she screams Ritchie
(22:34):
or maybe it was his brother. It's been a long
time since I've seen that movie, but that's another one
you should watch.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
But is it from the it's from the sixties.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
No, it was probably made in the eighties or nineties,
and it's looking back, I know. But it's a movie
made about his life.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Oh okakay, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
You know you know how they do that.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, I know they do. But I was like, I'm
not watching a movie from the sixties.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
No, no, no, no, no, no, it was later. But
I mean it's about that plane crash.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
We do have a couple of other questions that were
sent in that we can just do rapid fire. Since
we covered like the chat GBT as a therapist was
the main one. Sarah asked, where can I get your
shirt with the feeling things quote on it? Which the
shirt says feeling things on the front and on the
back it says have the day you need to have
And Kat and I have been wearing it and testing
it out and we don't have a date because we're
still wearing it and testing it out. We're testing out
(23:23):
lots of things. Yeah, but I would say that that
has stood the test.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yes, you will eventually be able to like that one.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
That you're likely going to see. But we're being very
very careful about what we do because if we put
it out, we want you to love it because there's
something we want to be intentional. Yes, because there's some
stuff that we thought we were going to like and
then the more we were with it, we're like, oh wait,
we don't like this. And then there's also some stuff
that I didn't like in the beginning that now I'm like,
(23:52):
oh wait, I do like this. So just product development,
our product and development team US is working on that.
So we will let y'all know. Because Claire also send
him a question when is merch dropping? So that covers
her question too. Elizabeth said, when is Kat gonna watch Friends?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Well?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Probably right around the time she watches La Bamba and
a Pretty Woman. Never when are you gonna watch Friends?
I thought that signed it to you?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You did?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Why would Elizabeth ask that?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Maybe because we just talked about Okay, I don't remember
you signing that to me, but if you did, I'm
very sorry. I forgot to do my assignment and I
don't see myself ever watching it because I just don't.
I have no urge. I feel like the time has passed.
It's so good, though. I think there's there's other shows
that I gravitate towards. I just don't know if, like,
(24:44):
I didn't watch that, so I don't have the same
like nostalgic feelings about that show, so it doesn't feel
fun to I'm like, oh, I can't want to go
watch Friends.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
You know, Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'm so sorry. That's okay. I wish I could be
excited about it.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
You also didn't trust me about snail serum, and and
then you tried it and you're like, Okay, this is awesome.
So I feel like that's how you might be about Friends,
which leads me into my next question from Jessica. Is
the Biopel serum worth using even if not using the
entire routine. Yes, I would say you don't have to
use the biopel routine to have benefits from the snail serrum.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, that's how I first started using. It's just using
the snail serum.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
So Jessica, yeah, you can keep doing your other stuff
and then just do the snail serrum treatments every once
in a while on top of your routine. And if
you do want to check it out, trycode Happy Happy
twenty five. You know sometimes you just like.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Test out books.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well, both of those codes have worked at one point
or another, and hopefully they still work. Just don't pay
full price because it goes on sale. Amazon will have
it on sale every once in a while with their
big Prime Day stuff, and then Biopel will do sales.
So I'm just here to tell you I don't care
how you get it, just get it on sale because
if you're trying it, if I'm recommending it to you,
(26:03):
I want you to try it at a good at
a price, I mean it's pricey because it is a
medical grade, luxury skincare treatment, but I just want you
to get it at a discount, so try code Happy
Happy twenty five or wait for a sale and then
stock up. Or on our Feeling Things podcast Instagram, which
(26:24):
is Feeling Things podcast, go follow it because occasionally we
do biopel snail giveaways and you never know when you
might get lucky. Next question is from Kimberly. Would you
ever consider linking your clothes and accessories? Oh, speaking of
our Instagram, We've thought about that and we've tried. We're
just like not, we'll try.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
What I think I want to say is like, yes,
when you're excited about something, you will and you have before,
but I don't think it'll ever become something that we
are doing. Like every single time we have an outfit on,
we're linking it right, So.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I don't want to hear those people, but I feel
like I have more outfits I'm excited about that I
don't like, I am excited about it, and then I
don't link it, Like I don't know why it's not
my go to, because I think it'd be helpful. I
actually ran into a listener at Ero's the other day.
I was getting a smoothie and we were talking about
like this colosstrum stuff and I was like, oh, I
think I have a code for that. I said, but
(27:15):
I haven't shared it because I don't know. I don't
want to overload people. And she's like, well, you might
as well just give people the choice, like if they
want it, She goes, I know I would appreciate the
code because I'm buying it anyway. So if you had
a code, that would be cool. And I said why,
I don't want people to think I'm pushing that product. I mean,
I use it. I've used it every day for two years,
but I haven't and it's not a deal with the brand.
(27:36):
They just gave me a code, Like I'm not being
paid to post about them, I guess. But I guess
with my code, I would get a commission, which is
anytime you're posting, a lot of times there is a commission,
sometimes there's not. I'll just link whatever because I don't
I don't have a commissionable link, or I don't have
a code, I'll just share like oh you want this
jacket or whatever. But the info I got from her,
(27:59):
I guess. The feedback I got from her, I was like, oh,
I looked at it with a different perspective of like well,
maybe I'm not bothering people. I guess if they want it,
they could take it, and if they don't, they keep going.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
And I guess it's not every post you're posting a link,
which I don't think is going to be you. But
I think both of us have been trying to be
more active and it just does not come natural to us.
So I sometimes you'll see us post fifteen things in
one day and then we'll go silent for like a week.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, I'm like, here, what links do you want? Because clearly,
like I have the dopamine or whatever, I need to
be able to do the links, and I get them
out and then yeah, I won't do it again for
another couple of months. And also too, I think I
have a fear of being I feel like just some
some of it is just it's overwhelming how much is
out there, and there's this over consumption. And since the
(28:49):
word that's coming to mind is insufferable, is that Yeah
that's a strong word. Though, that is a strong word.
But I sometimes I'm just like over it. Yeah, but
also I'm part of it. We'll shoot yeah, like that's
not a fun place to be. Well, because I don't
want to be adding to the problem. Oh, someone did
send us a DM that said, hey, could your next
(29:10):
deep dive be on influencers? Oh, someone did send us
a DM deep dive b on influencers and like all
the links that they post and if they actually use
(29:32):
the stuff, And I'm like, well, there's no way for
us to really know. And then also I replied back
and I was like, oh, I know, that's such a
sticky place, Like I know, I have people that I
follow where I'm just like I kind of get the
ick about it. And I said, and then also sometimes
I am that person and there are things that I
use and I genuinely love, and then I get the
opportunity to partner with a brand on it, like it
would be silly for me to say no. Now, I know,
(29:54):
sometimes I've done more than I've wanted. And then I
had to pull back because it didn't feel in alignment
with me. Not because I did genuinely use the product
or like it, but it just felt like too much
and I didn't want to be part of the too much.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, that's why you can never commit to that being
your full time job, because you would like quit your
job every other week. Like now you have the freedom
to post when you want and not when you don't.
But if you are just an influencer, you would be
like the world.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
And that's your only income. Well, but I do think
if like I was, I'm trying to think of a situation,
like I was in a dire straits desperate situation, like
I would I'd be like, Okay, you want to an
alignment with me? I would? I think I would find
the drive and the desire to post more like if
that was what I needed to do, I wouldn't do
(30:38):
anything that didn't feel in alignment. That I guess depends
on how desperate I am. But I mean, that's what
this girl's asking about. And who knows those those influencers,
who knows their situation. Maybe they're desperate. Probably not, because
I can guarantee you they're probably making a ton of money.
They're making so much money it's crazy. Okay, So Kimberly, Yeah,
we've considered it, Ashley. We'll close with this one. Is
(31:04):
it hard working together and being friends?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Sib? Do I mean to answer? First? Yeah, we didn't
talk about this before, so answers, I was like, it's
the worst. What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
These are our real answers, even if we hadn't talked
about it beforehand. But you mean we just didn't like.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
What We didn't go through any of this before we
sat down. So you're getting this the first time.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
That like real, no matter what, but you're getting the.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Raw real That's what I meant.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, yeah, obviously, thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Obviously. Is it hard? I think, well, this is so new,
so right it has there have been hard parts, but
I wouldn't say it was hard. What's hard is finding
time to just hang out because I think the more
we're working together, the more the time we're together we're working,
versus the time we're together we're just hanging out. Right.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Oh well, I saw Kat twice this week already. But
really work work, so finding that balance I agree. And
then also I think because we know that work can
be a challenge for friendships, I think from the get
go we've been intentional about addressing things head on. So
we do have our fun little acronym like you mentioned SIV,
(32:20):
and I think that has helped us. That would help
us even if we weren't working together, like just as friends.
That has been a cool thing, but it definitely is
come in handy on workdays, and then I think just
being extremely thoughtful. And I know I keep using the
word intentional, but that's it thoughtful.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
This week, Oh you know what I was texting about
and I was like, I think you're over thinking this,
and you're like, no, I just but I want to
be thoughtful and I want to so you you really
are well.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I think that I've been in situations before where there
just wasn't the best communication and it can be it's
a real bummer, and I have to own my role
in that too. And so I also have learned like, oh,
how do I want to do things differently. I don't
think I'm trying to be super thoughtful. Same thing with you.
I think we want to be considerate of the other person.
Like I'm not like I need to be thoughtful about this.
(33:10):
I think it's coming naturally because I care about you.
But then I want to be really intentional with my
words so that it doesn't end up causing any tension.
So like, let's just talk about this openly, honestly and thoughtfully.
That way, then we don't muddy the water and there's
nothing lingering. I think that that would be the worst
thing for us if there was just something lingering, and
(33:31):
then we had to sit down and work together.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
If I was like, we're stenting you about something right now,
I would have Okay, this is how you guys can
know if there's something going on. I am not a
good liar so or faker or faker. Yes, I can't
fake things. I like feel so awkward. So if I
had to like fake liking you, I think that would
(33:52):
not be a good episode.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Noah, probs not Prob's not so. I mean, if you
are considering work with a friend, just keep acronyms in mind,
like ones that make you laugh.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
And I think it depends on the friend. Like I
have a lot of friends that I think that I
don't know that it would work as well, not that
they're bad friends, just because you can work with one
friend of isn't and you can work with exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah. So there you have it. There you go, Thanks
for well Q and A. If y'all want to send
in emails for couch talks, you can hit up hey
there at Feeling Things podcast dot com, and then you
can hit us up in DMS. We can pull questions
from anywhere, so if.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
You well, dms get lost easier.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
So I know, but I'm just saying if like I
referenced a couple of them today and then that was
from our question box. But I happen to think I'm
just saying, you never know if you just send connect
with us in whatever way, because you know, I also
would love a good voicemail, which we get, we get some,
we get some, not all of them, like are ones
that people want us to play, but they're leaving us
(34:53):
voicemails and I think that that's thoughtful. So I'll go
ahead drop that number now eight seven seven two o
seven to two oh seven seven see teamwork, teamwork makes
during work. So eight seven seven two o seven two
o seven seven. All right, that's the wrap on today's episode.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
We hope you the.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Day the muic dude, We hope you have the day
you need to have. Bye bye
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