February 1, 2024 • 23 mins
Amy’s friend and fitness trainer, Jeremiah Carter, is back on the show for an OG-style episode talking about 4 things Amy is grateful for right now:
- Her favorite new habit of taking cold plunges & why we want to do hard things
- The benefits of cod liver oil
- Intentional breathing exercises that help you relax (The Wim Hof Method)
- Trying new meats & eating organs??
Would you try any of these new habits?? Email us at 4ThingsWithAmyBrown@gmail.com
HOST: Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy
GUEST: Jeremiah Carter // @jmiahcarter // @streetkings_fc // https://www.startstopsmost.com/
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Cast up thing, little food for yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Said, he can your kick in with four with Amy Brown,
Happy Thursday.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Four Things Amy here, and I'm gonna start off with
four things gratitude because well it's going to relate to
the episode and the four things that I'm going to
talk about, and four things that I am currently thankful
for right now would be cold plunges, cod liver oil,
whim hoff, breathing and eating organs, which I never thought
I would say that, especially that fourth thing there, even
(00:57):
cod liver oil because I've been sipping on that lately.
But all of this is thanks to my friend Jeremiah Carter,
who has come on the podcast before, but he's also
brought these four things into my life.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So he's gonna talk about them with me, and I
can just speak to my experience, but you have a
little bit more of the benefit side of things, and
especially being a trainer yourself and knowing what's happening with
the body. And for me, cryotherapy is something I did
for three years, and that's going into a box where
you have freezing cold air, and so that was painful enough,
(01:35):
but there is something that is just so crazy about
putting your entire body into freezing cold water. And I've
taken cold showers, so I know that I feel good
after stuff like that. And so for me, I kept
seeing people on Instagram posting about cold plunges and I think,
I don't know how they're doing that.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
That's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
But then I would go get in a box like
negative two hundred and three degrees or something, and I
would always emerge from cryotherapy feeling great, but I was
still terrified of a cold plunge. Yeah, and so that's
gonna be the first thing that we're talking about. This
will be an OG style episode. First thing cold plunges,
and then we'll move on to the other three things. First,
(02:18):
you are someone that I'm sure, as an athlete, did
the ice bath things. You and your brother rigged some
yetti cooler situation to where you all have a cold plunge.
And then I have a pool in my backyard and
that's how I've been cold plunging because it's winter, sometimes
early early in the morning before I go to work,
and it feels so good. But cryotherapy always felt good,
(02:40):
Like I could go into the cryotherapy box feeling one way,
and three minutes later emerge and my mood has shifted,
you know, in doorphins or flowing. Have you seen legally Blonde?
You know which shucks about exercising faces and doorphins and
endorphins made people happy, and happy people don't kill their husbands.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Such a good movie.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
That's me, Like, I will emerge from there. I'm not gonna,
you know, hurt anybody.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
So now I feel that way about cold Plunge, like
I can't wait to go get in the water and
emerge and just feel so amazing. And it's weird how
it gives you energy. But at the same time I
could still do it at night and then sleep.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Well, yeah, I've used it that way in a big way,
I found. You know, a lot of people like the
technique of, for one example, reading or journaling, writing if
their mind is racing at night. And for me, I
needed something to like almost cut me off, to distract
me to enter into something else, and cold plunge was
that in a big way for me, almost to immediately
step into a survival mode. And then once I was
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able to get out my body was releasing those endorphins
and I was really able to relax and my mind
was in a much different place than it was before.
So I've felt that directly, and I feel a big
reason obviously social media, but I think it's a big
reason cold plunges and you know, cryoud therapy, cold treatments,
all this stuff has gained such popularity lately. I mean
(04:03):
it's been around for a long long time, much longer
than people have been speaking about it or buying things
to put in their garage. And now I think we're
in an age where people want to do and I
think it's part of our DNA. We want to do
hard things, We desire to face challenges, and I think
that even if it's just a small three five, seven
(04:25):
ten minute thing in a cold tub, there's something really
and with water. I think that's where I would say
over the air in a cryo situation, crios got great benefits.
I'm just saying, I think there's something human about having
something tangible, visceral. You know, the water's touching your body,
it's moving around you, and you have to deal with that.
It's almost a reminder that you're human, you know, And
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how fragile you are, and then obviously being able to
get through that challenge, to conquer that challenge. I would
say two things that people can take away that I
like to focus on. At least you can get in
the weeds, and there are so many interesting in the weeds.
But for me, I would talk about blood flow, and
I'll talk about oxygen. And that's related to blood flow.
But your heart's a muscle. It's pumping blood constantly throughout
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the day. That thing stops, you're in trouble, right, But
we forget about when you breathe and you take an oxygen,
your heart is immediately putting that oxygen into the blood
and it's taking it out into your body. It's delivering
lots of nutrients all around your body, all the way
down from your toes to the top of your head, vitamins,
minerals or enacting things like this, and things are being repaired,
(05:31):
things are being taken care of. Oxygen is being delivered
so that your body from every little thing, your pinky toe,
that it stays alive. And so when you get into
something cold, you have a response that is fight or flight,
which is to make it simple, your body's going to
prioritize certain organs. So your blood's going to leave your
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limbs and it's going to head towards your core, towards
your heart, towards your vital organs, and it's going to
protect your brain as well. And so then once you
come out of that, your body's then going to full
of nutrient blood and it's come into the core in
a much quicker way because you've basically pricked it, you know,
and it's got a response. It's come into your core,
(06:12):
picked up all this stuff, you come out, and then boom,
all this blood is rushing back out into your body
to warm up those limbs to be okay, we can
protect those things now. But it became a situation where
it was like, we've got to protect the core. First.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You said, you saw Donald Miller do a whole post
from his pool the other day where which he's come
on the podcast before, and one of the biggest takeaways
I got from him was what does this make possible?
When life throws you curveballs, you recognize it, you sit
with it, you don't ignore it, but you ask yourself
in it, Okay, this sucks, and what does it make possible?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
So love that love Donald.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
So he was from his pool saying like he's been
doing it the whole month of January, or he did
it the whole month of January something, and he saw
some benefits.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, so a clip of that.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Today's day twenty one of a cold Plunge challenge. Pool
is thirty nine. I think been in about three minutes now.
Fears starting sting, but the benefits are coming. Apparently, dopamine
is increased, your energy goes up, your mood goes up,
all sorts of anecdotal stuff that I don't get into
because I'm.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Not a doctor.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Folks who talk about this, Joe Rogan has talked about
it extensively. There's a guy named Andrew Huberman who talks
about it. You really want to do it. Apparently between
fifty and fifty five degrees, there's no big benefit to
going any lower than that. You want to stay in
the pool for at least eleven minutes a week. And
I found a lot of things. Of all that little
health trends that I've tried to do, this is by
(07:38):
far the most effective. I feel good about three or
four minutes after I get out of the pool. For
the entire rest of the day, I have more energy.
I'm going to do cold plunges. I'm convinced for the
rest of my life. You can also do it with
cold showers. But I found taking a cold shower was
harder than going out in zero degree weather and jumping
in the swimming pool. Believe it or not, I.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Highly recommend it.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Not everybody has access to it, So maybe you start
with a cold shower, and in the winter months the
water can get pretty cold. I feel like three minutes
in the shower. Sometimes I'll feel like I've been in
there three and then I get out and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
That was only a minute and a half.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
So it may seem silly to set a timer, but
even when we were out in the pool, we set
a three minute timer. So same thing in your shower
and see if you feel any benefits from that. Right
onto cod liver oil, which disclaimer, I've only been taking
it a few days now, but I know your friends
have been taking it for a while. You went over
(08:34):
to their house, they had it. They were talking all
about it, and I know you're intrigued, especially because it
said liver like anything with liver, which.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Why is that I had had some eggzema on my
scalp that occurred after college, and I couldn't figure it
out and it was an issue come and go, blah
blah blah. Long story short, I stumbled on a guy
named Paul Saladino who talks about the benefits of meat, organs, liver,
all these bioavailable nutrients, which just means that you have
(09:04):
nutrients that you're taking in through whole foods that actually
are being turned into what they should be turned into
and how they should be turned into that in your body,
as opposed to taking a supplement like a vitamin that's
a pill that sometimes maybe it has one hundred percent
of your daily value of whatever, but your body only
takes in five percent of it or ten percent of it.
(09:25):
You pass the rest. It has a hard time getting
into your system. But when you eat whole foods, the
nutrients are in there. And so his emphasis on liver
really interested me as were I was speaking with my
buddy's wife who she's also a medical doctor, and Paul
Saladino is a doctor. She as a medical doctor who
is pregnant with her second child. She's started to really
(09:47):
feel benefits in her pregnancy, even with eating a lot
of red meats, and she started talking about the benefits
of cod liver oil and how they've started taking it
for plenty of reasons. I mean fish oil in general
and people have known of, but cod liver oil is
a more specific way to take it. It just has
higher nutrients such as A and D. I think, e,
(10:07):
you've got some of these nutrients that are good for
your people know about like biotin, but skin, nails, hair, cartilage,
soft tissue, stuff like that. So yeah, I was in.
I said, yeah, tell me more about this. And liver
is a very unsavory thing to eat, but you don't
need much each day. So then also on top of that,
(10:28):
to have the cod liver a little supplement that was
plain and simple for me. I thought that was a
great little thing to try.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
And it was Whole Foods brand, right like three sixty
five cod liver oil with a hint of lemon.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
And obviously you can get like more and more expensive.
Obviously it's better the better you get the wild caught stuff.
This one was nice. We're getting wild caught, but like
it can get pretty expensive. But my point being, for
those of you who would be interested in trying it
doesn't have to be anything crazy. Yeah, it's pretty manageable.
You get a thirty two ounce bottle for thirty bucks.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I think, yeah, just a teaspoon a day, spoon day
helped the medicine go down. Oh no, that's a spoonful
of sugar helps the medicine go down thirday. Okay, So
one day you were laying down and then all of
a sudden you just started doing this really awkward deep
(11:22):
breathing thing.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
On the couch.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I didn't know it was awkward. I felt pretty zened out.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
No, no, no, it was awkward at first, but then
you said it's a whim Hoff breathing, it's a technique.
I will say it did totally zen me out. Yeah,
I dialed all in. I mean, I think that's what
you have to do. You just have to like commit
to doing the process. And I was so relaxed, so
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much so that I needed to do it more.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
With just thirty breaths, I don't think we moved for
what fifteen to twenty minutes. She was like, I feel
so relaxed. It's like my body's just been given all
this oxygen that it needs, all over the places that
it needs it. I've now relaxed, no stress. It's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Give an example of the breath and what it's like.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
You don't want like a stress breath like you're you've
just stepped into cold water, and that's part of the
cold therapy. Back to that is learning to control your
breath in it. You're not stress breathing. You just you
found your calm. So it is a calm, but it's
a work and you and you're just going big breath
as quickly as you can and exhale, but you're not
(12:31):
doing a count. You're not doing a three in five out,
but it is rhythmic in through the mouth, out through
the mouth. That's part of it. You can do in
through the nose, out through the mouth. But part of
it is especially with I think a thirdy count with
what you know, again this is pulling for multiple people.
Is you get air in much faster if you go
straight through your mouth. So like runners, when I was
(12:52):
running or training in soccer, a lot of times you
try to go through training as long as you could
just using your nose because it's such limiting limited oxygen.
Once you open your mouth, you're breathing as efficiently as
you possibly can and that's what you're trying to do
here is just get tons of oxygen in all of
that out do it again, full in, full out, full in,
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full out, but not like hold your breath.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah it's fast, none of that.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah it's faster.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
And so the count of thirty explain how someone might
do that. So they lay down and they do the
yeah inhale exhale really you know, intentionally fast.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So is that they just do it thirty times.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Thirty breasts. I'd get to thirty breaths, and sometimes you're
going to find that. You get there and you're like,
I want to go to forty fifty, maybe sixty, and
you just enjoy it. But the point is I during
my breathing, I try to find a place with all
my body. A lot of times it's great for me
going to sleep a lot of times I'll even fall
asleep really quickly after I do it, you know, within
sixty seconds. But you get your body in a place
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where you won't move it. So get your feet the
way you want find out. You start to feel your
whole body as you're breathing. Feel your whole body, feel
your hands, feel your head, feel the weight of stuff,
feel where maybe there's pain. You can even think about
that spot of pain while you're breathing, but still keep
your account going. Once you get to thirty, the point
is you flex everything, clench your fist, flex all your muscles,
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hold it for a two to three count, blow it
all out, and then just relax and again not trying
to hold your breath, not trying to set a record
when your body needs a breath, though, you let it
have it.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, and don't do it's not thirty like inhal exhale
one two, it's like every inhale is one. Yeah, so
you're gonna do because sometimes it'll be like one two,
you know, but that's actually just one.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah, you've got one round of inhale exhale one.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, it is to get that clear.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
And yeah, the clenching your body T T T tight, tight,
and then releasing.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
The majority of us as we're doing normal daily routine life,
we forget to breathe and you can go through you're living.
So you're taking in breasts, but you're not breathing the
way you should be breathing. Oxygen is not coming in
the way it should be, and so you're getting stressed.
You're getting condensed, and we take even a moment. I've
done it in plenty of days. Take a moment, two
(15:09):
three breaths. That's all you need just to re go.
Oh wow, I feel so much more relaxed now. I
also feel more focused and ready to do what I
need to do. I don't feel up tight. My shoulders
are relaxed. Now, my body's relaxed. WHOA, All I needed
to do is breathe, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, breath work is huge.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Sometimes sometimes my kids even they know, I mean, my
son knows he's done breath work in different therapies, and
sometimes he'll look at me and say, Mom.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Do you need to go breathe?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, but this specific type of breathing, this like intense
inhale and intense exhale thirty times in a row. I
will say, it relaxed me like no other. So so
much so I think I will probably do it tonight.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
With a brown.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Okay. So we were out whole Foods the other day
and in the freezer section there was this meat where
there's like beef bison, venison packaged up and it's a
company called Force of Nature, and I thought, okay, yeah,
we'll grab some venison whatever. And then you look at
the package and it says venison mixed with heart and liver.
(16:27):
So it's organs, yes, yes, the ancestral blend and they
had yeah, the bison option of that, and the beef whatever.
I was scared to eat it, but it was so
good and I felt like, Okay, I'm doing something good
for my body because it's getting all these vitamins in
like a tiny amount of liver.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
It's not like there's ton in there. I will say
it was a unique taste.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, you differently taste it. You taste liver. It tastes different, Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's not overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
My mom would always eat liver from like Loubi's or
something thing, and I was always so grossed out or
liver pat I've never been into that. What is that
aoll graw? I don't do you know anything about? Okay,
so never interested me at all whatsoever. But I have
been reading more about the benefits of liver, and so
I appreciate the fact that there are companies out there,
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such as that brand we bought whatever Force of Nature,
that they've made it super convenient and they've convenient you know,
ground up everything together so that you can make a
hamburger out of it, or grind do ground meat and
throw it over some rice or something. Why are you
into eating organs? I know you touched on a little
bit with the cod liver oil, but I honestly don't
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think I would have ever bought that unless you were
there and said, oh, this is good, and now I'm
all in, I'm salt and I like that. It's it's
a convenient way to get this nutrients that our body needs.
But how did you first learn about it?
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I guess to bring it full circle, Paul Saladino is
the guy that, gosh, how did I even discover him first?
Maybe when I was doing a job in California. I
think because you could find some of his products out there. Oh,
another friend of mine shared one of his podcasts. Actually
that's part of what it was. But anyways, with the EGZMA,
I started struggling with a little bit on my scalp.
(18:15):
I had been to dermatologists, and I'd been to see doctors,
and I'd say, you know, when I had my yearly
physical or et cetera, I say, you know, I'm dealing
with this thing. It's kind of new. Sometimes it's there.
Sometimes it's not I don't know why my scalp is
getting egma on it. And everybody had their little used
coconut oil. It's getting too dry, you know, it's too oily.
You need to use this kind of shampoo. Okay, well
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you need to take this kind of medicine or this
use this kind of etc. The doctor would say, or
that's not related to food, or that's not No one
could really figure it out, and it never it never
changed it. And so then with Paul, he actually was
a doctor who family, you know, jeans had egzma as
an issue on certain joints as if I remember correctly, elbows, wrists,
(18:56):
stuff like that. So I thought, okay, he went on
this journey of being a vegan. He was having a
lot of issues over a number of years. And this
is a medical doctor, you got to remember. So he
started studying all this stuff around nutrition and decided he
was going to try a carnivore diet. When he went down,
the carnivore died. He then evolved, there's much more to
say there. Seed oil is really bad. Started to discover
(19:17):
these basically binders and vegetables and stuff like that that
can create situations in your body where it doesn't absorb
certain nutrients. So he was like, look, red meat, organs, liver,
all this stuff head to tail of an animal the
way a lot of these different cultures around the world
have done it, and look, they are healthy and we're not.
(19:39):
Maybe we should pay attention. So then he started looking
into fruit, raw honey. So this was my journey, and
during this I started to notice. I was like, I'm
very specific with what I eat.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Why now?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
But as I started going down this road with some
of the things that Paul recommended, again, one of the
biggest parts is liver because there's so many bioavailable vitamins
and minerals in liver that my eggsma started to fade away,
and I thought, Wow, this guy's onto something. I started
doing raw dairy, cheeses, milks, the keyfer that we looked at, Yeah,
(20:09):
or we try to hear all that stuff and if
I've seen major benefit. So that's where it all. Kind
of my journey was around the ezema thing, and yeah,
I've noticed more than that.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Force of nature. The brand of the meat that we got.
They have a blog on their website. I'll link it
in the show notes, but it's called eat like a wolf?
Why you should eat more organs? And then my first
response I was like, well, but I'm not a wolf,
so why would I want to eat like one? But
they do go into more details of why you should
eat organ meat and why it's the most nutritious part
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of any animal and all the different find B one,
B two, B six, B twelve, B three, Like how
much broccoli you would have to eat in order to
get all of that in just like a tiny piece
of organ meat versus like half a pound of broccoli.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Yeah. Yeah, I'll send you the podcast as well. But
this other doctor who's with her second child, my buddy's wife,
she was speaking about the huge iron deficiency that is
all over right. People are taking so many nutrients or
supplements for iron, especially women oftentimes, and she was talking
about how it's so fascinating that actually you need certain
(21:27):
other things. I think it was copper that help you
absorb the iron in the way you're supposed to. And
the only way you get those together is when you
do consume a red meat. And where are those found.
It's found in grass, but the cow's eating it, it's
now distributed it into its bodies that makes it available
to you. So many interesting things like that. I think
raw dairy is a huge one for me as well
(21:48):
with the exma, but also the other well.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
It's a whole nother podcast because it's not.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Really legal in this state. You can if they're animals,
but you can buy into a cow. It is legal.
It's just not on grocery store shelves yet.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Does California sell raw dairy?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Okay, just not in Tennessee unless you buy into a cow.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, you can buy into a cow and they can
deliver gallons of raw dairy tea taste delicious. You won't
notice anything different.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I have been buying the raw sharp cheddar. Yeah, it's
very nice and it's so good. Yeah, all about it. Okay,
Well there you go. Cold plunges called liver oil, whim Hoff,
breathing and eating organs so delicious for things that I'm
thankful for right now.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I think on.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Eggs, definitely eggs, eggs, what pasture raised eggs, that's like
very very good. People can get scared by all this
language around organs meat, but I just wanted to say
with the like the fats, the nutrients like an egg
and an egg yolk are unbelievably beneficial for you, and
it's usually much easier for people.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
To find oh yeah, over a liver, but there are
a lot of whole foods around, so I would think
the force of nature. And also on their website you
can I think you can order it online and maybe
they'll ship it to you. So if you want to
order some ancestral of Glynn go foresta all right, thanks Jeremiah,
Cast up thing, little food for yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Life. Oh it's pretty bad.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hey, it's pretty beautiful thing beautiful that for a.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Little mouth's exciting.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Said, he can your kick in with four with Amy Brown,
Happy Thursday.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Four Things Amy here, and I'm gonna start off with
four things gratitude because well it's going to relate to
the episode and the four things that I'm going to
talk about, and four things that I am currently thankful
for right now would be cold plunges, cod liver oil,
whim hoff, breathing and eating organs, which I never thought
I would say that, especially that fourth thing there, even
(00:57):
cod liver oil because I've been sipping on that lately.
But all of this is thanks to my friend Jeremiah Carter,
who has come on the podcast before, but he's also
brought these four things into my life.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So he's gonna talk about them with me, and I
can just speak to my experience, but you have a
little bit more of the benefit side of things, and
especially being a trainer yourself and knowing what's happening with
the body. And for me, cryotherapy is something I did
for three years, and that's going into a box where
you have freezing cold air, and so that was painful enough,
(01:35):
but there is something that is just so crazy about
putting your entire body into freezing cold water. And I've
taken cold showers, so I know that I feel good
after stuff like that. And so for me, I kept
seeing people on Instagram posting about cold plunges and I think,
I don't know how they're doing that.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
That's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
But then I would go get in a box like
negative two hundred and three degrees or something, and I
would always emerge from cryotherapy feeling great, but I was
still terrified of a cold plunge. Yeah, and so that's
gonna be the first thing that we're talking about. This
will be an OG style episode. First thing cold plunges,
and then we'll move on to the other three things. First,
(02:18):
you are someone that I'm sure, as an athlete, did
the ice bath things. You and your brother rigged some
yetti cooler situation to where you all have a cold plunge.
And then I have a pool in my backyard and
that's how I've been cold plunging because it's winter, sometimes
early early in the morning before I go to work,
and it feels so good. But cryotherapy always felt good,
(02:40):
Like I could go into the cryotherapy box feeling one way,
and three minutes later emerge and my mood has shifted,
you know, in doorphins or flowing. Have you seen legally Blonde?
You know which shucks about exercising faces and doorphins and
endorphins made people happy, and happy people don't kill their husbands.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Such a good movie.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
That's me, Like, I will emerge from there. I'm not gonna,
you know, hurt anybody.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
So now I feel that way about cold Plunge, like
I can't wait to go get in the water and
emerge and just feel so amazing. And it's weird how
it gives you energy. But at the same time I
could still do it at night and then sleep.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Well, yeah, I've used it that way in a big way,
I found. You know, a lot of people like the
technique of, for one example, reading or journaling, writing if
their mind is racing at night. And for me, I
needed something to like almost cut me off, to distract
me to enter into something else, and cold plunge was
that in a big way for me, almost to immediately
step into a survival mode. And then once I was
(03:42):
able to get out my body was releasing those endorphins
and I was really able to relax and my mind
was in a much different place than it was before.
So I've felt that directly, and I feel a big
reason obviously social media, but I think it's a big
reason cold plunges and you know, cryoud therapy, cold treatments,
all this stuff has gained such popularity lately. I mean
(04:03):
it's been around for a long long time, much longer
than people have been speaking about it or buying things
to put in their garage. And now I think we're
in an age where people want to do and I
think it's part of our DNA. We want to do
hard things, We desire to face challenges, and I think
that even if it's just a small three five, seven
(04:25):
ten minute thing in a cold tub, there's something really
and with water. I think that's where I would say
over the air in a cryo situation, crios got great benefits.
I'm just saying, I think there's something human about having
something tangible, visceral. You know, the water's touching your body,
it's moving around you, and you have to deal with that.
It's almost a reminder that you're human, you know, And
(04:46):
how fragile you are, and then obviously being able to
get through that challenge, to conquer that challenge. I would
say two things that people can take away that I
like to focus on. At least you can get in
the weeds, and there are so many interesting in the weeds.
But for me, I would talk about blood flow, and
I'll talk about oxygen. And that's related to blood flow.
But your heart's a muscle. It's pumping blood constantly throughout
(05:09):
the day. That thing stops, you're in trouble, right, But
we forget about when you breathe and you take an oxygen,
your heart is immediately putting that oxygen into the blood
and it's taking it out into your body. It's delivering
lots of nutrients all around your body, all the way
down from your toes to the top of your head, vitamins,
minerals or enacting things like this, and things are being repaired,
(05:31):
things are being taken care of. Oxygen is being delivered
so that your body from every little thing, your pinky toe,
that it stays alive. And so when you get into
something cold, you have a response that is fight or flight,
which is to make it simple, your body's going to
prioritize certain organs. So your blood's going to leave your
(05:52):
limbs and it's going to head towards your core, towards
your heart, towards your vital organs, and it's going to
protect your brain as well. And so then once you
come out of that, your body's then going to full
of nutrient blood and it's come into the core in
a much quicker way because you've basically pricked it, you know,
and it's got a response. It's come into your core,
(06:12):
picked up all this stuff, you come out, and then boom,
all this blood is rushing back out into your body
to warm up those limbs to be okay, we can
protect those things now. But it became a situation where
it was like, we've got to protect the core. First.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You said, you saw Donald Miller do a whole post
from his pool the other day where which he's come
on the podcast before, and one of the biggest takeaways
I got from him was what does this make possible?
When life throws you curveballs, you recognize it, you sit
with it, you don't ignore it, but you ask yourself
in it, Okay, this sucks, and what does it make possible?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
So love that love Donald.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
So he was from his pool saying like he's been
doing it the whole month of January, or he did
it the whole month of January something, and he saw
some benefits.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, so a clip of that.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Today's day twenty one of a cold Plunge challenge. Pool
is thirty nine. I think been in about three minutes now.
Fears starting sting, but the benefits are coming. Apparently, dopamine
is increased, your energy goes up, your mood goes up,
all sorts of anecdotal stuff that I don't get into
because I'm.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Not a doctor.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Folks who talk about this, Joe Rogan has talked about
it extensively. There's a guy named Andrew Huberman who talks
about it. You really want to do it. Apparently between
fifty and fifty five degrees, there's no big benefit to
going any lower than that. You want to stay in
the pool for at least eleven minutes a week. And
I found a lot of things. Of all that little
health trends that I've tried to do, this is by
(07:38):
far the most effective. I feel good about three or
four minutes after I get out of the pool. For
the entire rest of the day, I have more energy.
I'm going to do cold plunges. I'm convinced for the
rest of my life. You can also do it with
cold showers. But I found taking a cold shower was
harder than going out in zero degree weather and jumping
in the swimming pool. Believe it or not, I.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Highly recommend it.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Not everybody has access to it, So maybe you start
with a cold shower, and in the winter months the
water can get pretty cold. I feel like three minutes
in the shower. Sometimes I'll feel like I've been in
there three and then I get out and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
That was only a minute and a half.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
So it may seem silly to set a timer, but
even when we were out in the pool, we set
a three minute timer. So same thing in your shower
and see if you feel any benefits from that. Right
onto cod liver oil, which disclaimer, I've only been taking
it a few days now, but I know your friends
have been taking it for a while. You went over
(08:34):
to their house, they had it. They were talking all
about it, and I know you're intrigued, especially because it
said liver like anything with liver, which.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Why is that I had had some eggzema on my
scalp that occurred after college, and I couldn't figure it
out and it was an issue come and go, blah
blah blah. Long story short, I stumbled on a guy
named Paul Saladino who talks about the benefits of meat, organs, liver,
all these bioavailable nutrients, which just means that you have
(09:04):
nutrients that you're taking in through whole foods that actually
are being turned into what they should be turned into
and how they should be turned into that in your body,
as opposed to taking a supplement like a vitamin that's
a pill that sometimes maybe it has one hundred percent
of your daily value of whatever, but your body only
takes in five percent of it or ten percent of it.
(09:25):
You pass the rest. It has a hard time getting
into your system. But when you eat whole foods, the
nutrients are in there. And so his emphasis on liver
really interested me as were I was speaking with my
buddy's wife who she's also a medical doctor, and Paul
Saladino is a doctor. She as a medical doctor who
is pregnant with her second child. She's started to really
(09:47):
feel benefits in her pregnancy, even with eating a lot
of red meats, and she started talking about the benefits
of cod liver oil and how they've started taking it
for plenty of reasons. I mean fish oil in general
and people have known of, but cod liver oil is
a more specific way to take it. It just has
higher nutrients such as A and D. I think, e,
(10:07):
you've got some of these nutrients that are good for
your people know about like biotin, but skin, nails, hair, cartilage,
soft tissue, stuff like that. So yeah, I was in.
I said, yeah, tell me more about this. And liver
is a very unsavory thing to eat, but you don't
need much each day. So then also on top of that,
(10:28):
to have the cod liver a little supplement that was
plain and simple for me. I thought that was a
great little thing to try.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
And it was Whole Foods brand, right like three sixty
five cod liver oil with a hint of lemon.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
And obviously you can get like more and more expensive.
Obviously it's better the better you get the wild caught stuff.
This one was nice. We're getting wild caught, but like
it can get pretty expensive. But my point being, for
those of you who would be interested in trying it
doesn't have to be anything crazy. Yeah, it's pretty manageable.
You get a thirty two ounce bottle for thirty bucks.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I think, yeah, just a teaspoon a day, spoon day
helped the medicine go down. Oh no, that's a spoonful
of sugar helps the medicine go down thirday. Okay, So
one day you were laying down and then all of
a sudden you just started doing this really awkward deep
(11:22):
breathing thing.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
On the couch.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I didn't know it was awkward. I felt pretty zened out.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
No, no, no, it was awkward at first, but then
you said it's a whim Hoff breathing, it's a technique.
I will say it did totally zen me out. Yeah,
I dialed all in. I mean, I think that's what
you have to do. You just have to like commit
to doing the process. And I was so relaxed, so
(11:49):
much so that I needed to do it more.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
With just thirty breaths, I don't think we moved for
what fifteen to twenty minutes. She was like, I feel
so relaxed. It's like my body's just been given all
this oxygen that it needs, all over the places that
it needs it. I've now relaxed, no stress. It's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Give an example of the breath and what it's like.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
You don't want like a stress breath like you're you've
just stepped into cold water, and that's part of the
cold therapy. Back to that is learning to control your
breath in it. You're not stress breathing. You just you
found your calm. So it is a calm, but it's
a work and you and you're just going big breath
as quickly as you can and exhale, but you're not
(12:31):
doing a count. You're not doing a three in five out,
but it is rhythmic in through the mouth, out through
the mouth. That's part of it. You can do in
through the nose, out through the mouth. But part of
it is especially with I think a thirdy count with
what you know, again this is pulling for multiple people.
Is you get air in much faster if you go
straight through your mouth. So like runners, when I was
(12:52):
running or training in soccer, a lot of times you
try to go through training as long as you could
just using your nose because it's such limiting limited oxygen.
Once you open your mouth, you're breathing as efficiently as
you possibly can and that's what you're trying to do
here is just get tons of oxygen in all of
that out do it again, full in, full out, full in,
(13:13):
full out, but not like hold your breath.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah it's fast, none of that.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah it's faster.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
And so the count of thirty explain how someone might
do that. So they lay down and they do the
yeah inhale exhale really you know, intentionally fast.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So is that they just do it thirty times.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Thirty breasts. I'd get to thirty breaths, and sometimes you're
going to find that. You get there and you're like,
I want to go to forty fifty, maybe sixty, and
you just enjoy it. But the point is I during
my breathing, I try to find a place with all
my body. A lot of times it's great for me
going to sleep a lot of times I'll even fall
asleep really quickly after I do it, you know, within
sixty seconds. But you get your body in a place
(13:54):
where you won't move it. So get your feet the
way you want find out. You start to feel your
whole body as you're breathing. Feel your whole body, feel
your hands, feel your head, feel the weight of stuff,
feel where maybe there's pain. You can even think about
that spot of pain while you're breathing, but still keep
your account going. Once you get to thirty, the point
is you flex everything, clench your fist, flex all your muscles,
(14:15):
hold it for a two to three count, blow it
all out, and then just relax and again not trying
to hold your breath, not trying to set a record
when your body needs a breath, though, you let it
have it.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, and don't do it's not thirty like inhal exhale
one two, it's like every inhale is one. Yeah, so
you're gonna do because sometimes it'll be like one two,
you know, but that's actually just one.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah, you've got one round of inhale exhale one.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, it is to get that clear.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
And yeah, the clenching your body T T T tight, tight,
and then releasing.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
The majority of us as we're doing normal daily routine life,
we forget to breathe and you can go through you're living.
So you're taking in breasts, but you're not breathing the
way you should be breathing. Oxygen is not coming in
the way it should be, and so you're getting stressed.
You're getting condensed, and we take even a moment. I've
done it in plenty of days. Take a moment, two
(15:09):
three breaths. That's all you need just to re go.
Oh wow, I feel so much more relaxed now. I
also feel more focused and ready to do what I
need to do. I don't feel up tight. My shoulders
are relaxed. Now, my body's relaxed. WHOA, All I needed
to do is breathe, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, breath work is huge.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Sometimes sometimes my kids even they know, I mean, my
son knows he's done breath work in different therapies, and
sometimes he'll look at me and say, Mom.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Do you need to go breathe?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, but this specific type of breathing, this like intense
inhale and intense exhale thirty times in a row. I
will say, it relaxed me like no other. So so
much so I think I will probably do it tonight.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
With a brown.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Okay. So we were out whole Foods the other day
and in the freezer section there was this meat where
there's like beef bison, venison packaged up and it's a
company called Force of Nature, and I thought, okay, yeah,
we'll grab some venison whatever. And then you look at
the package and it says venison mixed with heart and liver.
(16:27):
So it's organs, yes, yes, the ancestral blend and they
had yeah, the bison option of that, and the beef whatever.
I was scared to eat it, but it was so
good and I felt like, Okay, I'm doing something good
for my body because it's getting all these vitamins in
like a tiny amount of liver.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
It's not like there's ton in there. I will say
it was a unique taste.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, you differently taste it. You taste liver. It tastes different, Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's not overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
My mom would always eat liver from like Loubi's or
something thing, and I was always so grossed out or
liver pat I've never been into that. What is that
aoll graw? I don't do you know anything about? Okay,
so never interested me at all whatsoever. But I have
been reading more about the benefits of liver, and so
I appreciate the fact that there are companies out there,
(17:19):
such as that brand we bought whatever Force of Nature,
that they've made it super convenient and they've convenient you know,
ground up everything together so that you can make a
hamburger out of it, or grind do ground meat and
throw it over some rice or something. Why are you
into eating organs? I know you touched on a little
bit with the cod liver oil, but I honestly don't
(17:41):
think I would have ever bought that unless you were
there and said, oh, this is good, and now I'm
all in, I'm salt and I like that. It's it's
a convenient way to get this nutrients that our body needs.
But how did you first learn about it?
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I guess to bring it full circle, Paul Saladino is
the guy that, gosh, how did I even discover him first?
Maybe when I was doing a job in California. I
think because you could find some of his products out there. Oh,
another friend of mine shared one of his podcasts. Actually
that's part of what it was. But anyways, with the EGZMA,
I started struggling with a little bit on my scalp.
(18:15):
I had been to dermatologists, and I'd been to see doctors,
and I'd say, you know, when I had my yearly
physical or et cetera, I say, you know, I'm dealing
with this thing. It's kind of new. Sometimes it's there.
Sometimes it's not I don't know why my scalp is
getting egma on it. And everybody had their little used
coconut oil. It's getting too dry, you know, it's too oily.
You need to use this kind of shampoo. Okay, well
(18:35):
you need to take this kind of medicine or this
use this kind of etc. The doctor would say, or
that's not related to food, or that's not No one
could really figure it out, and it never it never
changed it. And so then with Paul, he actually was
a doctor who family, you know, jeans had egzma as
an issue on certain joints as if I remember correctly, elbows, wrists,
(18:56):
stuff like that. So I thought, okay, he went on
this journey of being a vegan. He was having a
lot of issues over a number of years. And this
is a medical doctor, you got to remember. So he
started studying all this stuff around nutrition and decided he
was going to try a carnivore diet. When he went down,
the carnivore died. He then evolved, there's much more to
say there. Seed oil is really bad. Started to discover
(19:17):
these basically binders and vegetables and stuff like that that
can create situations in your body where it doesn't absorb
certain nutrients. So he was like, look, red meat, organs, liver,
all this stuff head to tail of an animal the
way a lot of these different cultures around the world
have done it, and look, they are healthy and we're not.
(19:39):
Maybe we should pay attention. So then he started looking
into fruit, raw honey. So this was my journey, and
during this I started to notice. I was like, I'm
very specific with what I eat.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Why now?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
But as I started going down this road with some
of the things that Paul recommended, again, one of the
biggest parts is liver because there's so many bioavailable vitamins
and minerals in liver that my eggsma started to fade away,
and I thought, Wow, this guy's onto something. I started
doing raw dairy, cheeses, milks, the keyfer that we looked at, Yeah,
(20:09):
or we try to hear all that stuff and if
I've seen major benefit. So that's where it all. Kind
of my journey was around the ezema thing, and yeah,
I've noticed more than that.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Force of nature. The brand of the meat that we got.
They have a blog on their website. I'll link it
in the show notes, but it's called eat like a wolf?
Why you should eat more organs? And then my first
response I was like, well, but I'm not a wolf,
so why would I want to eat like one? But
they do go into more details of why you should
eat organ meat and why it's the most nutritious part
(20:45):
of any animal and all the different find B one,
B two, B six, B twelve, B three, Like how
much broccoli you would have to eat in order to
get all of that in just like a tiny piece
of organ meat versus like half a pound of broccoli.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Yeah. Yeah, I'll send you the podcast as well. But
this other doctor who's with her second child, my buddy's wife,
she was speaking about the huge iron deficiency that is
all over right. People are taking so many nutrients or
supplements for iron, especially women oftentimes, and she was talking
about how it's so fascinating that actually you need certain
(21:27):
other things. I think it was copper that help you
absorb the iron in the way you're supposed to. And
the only way you get those together is when you
do consume a red meat. And where are those found.
It's found in grass, but the cow's eating it, it's
now distributed it into its bodies that makes it available
to you. So many interesting things like that. I think
raw dairy is a huge one for me as well
(21:48):
with the exma, but also the other well.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
It's a whole nother podcast because it's not.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Really legal in this state. You can if they're animals,
but you can buy into a cow. It is legal.
It's just not on grocery store shelves yet.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Does California sell raw dairy?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Okay, just not in Tennessee unless you buy into a cow.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, you can buy into a cow and they can
deliver gallons of raw dairy tea taste delicious. You won't
notice anything different.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I have been buying the raw sharp cheddar. Yeah, it's
very nice and it's so good. Yeah, all about it. Okay,
Well there you go. Cold plunges called liver oil, whim Hoff,
breathing and eating organs so delicious for things that I'm
thankful for right now.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I think on.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Eggs, definitely eggs, eggs, what pasture raised eggs, that's like
very very good. People can get scared by all this
language around organs meat, but I just wanted to say
with the like the fats, the nutrients like an egg
and an egg yolk are unbelievably beneficial for you, and
it's usually much easier for people.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
To find oh yeah, over a liver, but there are
a lot of whole foods around, so I would think
the force of nature. And also on their website you
can I think you can order it online and maybe
they'll ship it to you. So if you want to
order some ancestral of Glynn go foresta all right, thanks Jeremiah,
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