October 30, 2025 • 17 mins
This week on Couch Talks, Amy and Kat respond to a listener’s voicemail calling out a controversial comment from our recent episode on breast cancer awareness. Amy talks about feeling misunderstood and why curiosity matters more than judgment (yes, Kat quotes Ted Lasso). They also talk about The Pitt possibly being a copy of ER (Kat cried, Amy didn’t), and unpack the idea that “great artists steal.” It’s messy, open-hearted, and all about growing through discomfort.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just won't Amy
and Cat gotcha covin locking No, brother, Ladies and folks,
do you just follow an the spirit where tell us
phone over real stuff, tell the chill stuff and the.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
M but Swayne.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Sometimes the best thing you can do it just stop
you feel things. This is Feeling.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Things with Amy and Kat.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Happy Thursday. Welcome to Couch Talks, our listener Q and
A for our Feeling Things podcast. I'm Amy and I'm Kat.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
And quick disclaimer.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Although on these episodes we usually answer listener emails, this
does not serve as a substitute for therapy.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, we do listener emails. We do voicemails as well,
and today's is a listener of voicemail. There's not so
much a question. It's more of a statement or an opinion,
which I think is great. We wanted to share it though,
as a opportunity to further clarify I guess and then
also have a discussion on feedback. And Kat and I
(01:08):
welcome it, like I almost wish this listener said more.
I don't almost wish. I actually do wish they said
more because I want the feedback I want to know
when I need to do better or say something differently,
or own what I said and take it back like ooh,
I shouldn't have said it that way, because I mean
(01:28):
I can certainly do that, at least I hope. I
want to be someone that can hear that feedback from
a listener and do it. And so we're sharing this
voicemail as an opportunity to talk about the type of
communication we want to have with y'all. And then where
it kind of leaves us hanging because as you'll hear,
(01:50):
I guess I gave her the ick if you will
on something and I'm like, well, dang, shoot, like I
want to figure out how to how to make it
better or how I could have said it differently, and
what she's referring to. I just would like more clarity
on or what was cringe.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Or even not even say it differently, like maybe you
guys just have different opinions and that's okay, let's play it.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Okay, let's play it.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, Okay, So here is the voicemail. We're not saying
the name just out of respect. Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I was just listening to your podcast that you uploaded
recently on breastcuster awareness, and you made a statement that
if it was a man's problem, there would be more research,
and I just felt like that statement was so cringe,
Like that's ridiculous to even say that.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Okay, so I'm trying to figure out what was cringe,
and so that's why it would be helpful to elaborate
if if we ever think something is cringe, Like if
if you had a problem caat with something that I
said later, you may come to me and me like, oh, Amy,
when we're talking about this, I cringed a little when
you said this this way.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
And this is what it brought up for me, or
this is the judgment I had about it, or this
is what I heard in what you were saying. I
think that voicemail, like we said, like we welcome the
feedback because we've both probably said things that we probably
could have said better, or that we both probably have
said things that we probably needed to clarify, or we've
said things that we'd want to take back.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Oh I I've cringed at myself. Yeah. For so we're
not so to that listener, you are not alone. Yeah,
I have.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Also, we're not above crnch. We can be cringey and
we can make mistakes. It's that this is kind of
half of a thought, and so it's hard for us
to I don't really know what to do with it,
because I want to know more information.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Whether, like I said earlier, whether we just have.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Different opinions, or whether we did misspeak or maybe we
weren't clear on something. I have so many curiosities in
my brain right now about what her experience.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Was, which we love curiosity. Yeah, and so maybe through
this she could further elaborate. It's also giving me an
opportunity to elaborate a little more in a non defensive way,
which which I have to work on. It's come up before.
I've been known to be a little defensive at times.
According to my boyfriend, I can get really defensive, and
I think that that's something that I do naturally to
(04:12):
protect myself and I've done it for a very long time,
and so that is my go to And in this
I had to make sure, like, oh, I want to clarify,
but not out of defensiveness, just for clarification, because we
didn't spend a lot of time on that. It was
something I said in passing and flippantly if you will.
(04:32):
I don't want to disregard anybody's experience that might be
different than that. It's not like I'm speaking from something
personally within myself. I've just heard other experts talk about it,
women doctors. There's different studies that have been done, and
I pulled up one in particular that is from Harvard
Medical School. This is a twenty twenty two study, though,
(04:55):
but as of twenty nineteen, women were substantially underrepresented in
clinical trials for leading diseases. And that's a similar study
that has stuck with me that I've seen elsewhere on
social media. Now, I can't cite every single thing, and
I didn't go through and like pull a bunch of points,
because it's not the point of all of this. I
(05:17):
think I just was regurgitating in my own words something
I had heard time and time again that I don't
think is false. I don't think it's cringe because I
actually believe it to be true. Yeah, So I don't
know what's cringe about it. I feel like since the
beginning of time, women have been fighting for equal representation
(05:40):
in things. It's not far fetched to believe that men
have taken priority in a lot of areas particularly research
and doctor Marie Claire. That's someone who I know has
touched on this in general, and she does a lot
with menopause and something that she had said or a
(06:01):
study she read or something she put up on socials.
At some point, I know that that sits in the
back of my brain about how as a female doctor
and having gone through menopause and her feeling all of
the things she has felt the last several years and
experienced the different changes in her body and what she's
gone through, Like if men were to have experienced menopause,
(06:23):
research would have started well before now. And you're seeing
a flood of research into menopause because it's finally happening,
but it would have happened decades ago if men were
the ones having all of the symptoms that we have
to experience as women. And I really believe that to
be true. But I don't think it's cringe And that's
really what I meant by that. And I know with
(06:44):
breast cancer it's tricky because men can also get breast cancer,
but it's predominantly a women's thing. Then Kat and I
got curious and we were like, oh, I wonder if
we could do research on like a predominantly male type
cancer like prostate cancer versus breast cancer. And then that
was us getting into the weeds of it. Aren't really
going to try to come on here and defend our
case and have all of these stats and facts. It
(07:05):
was just more of I can come up with a
generalized opinion based on things that my brain is pulling
from a bunch of different things I've seen over the years,
and have that opinion.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
That's where I regardless of all of the weeds of it.
My thing with this listener's voicemail is I still am confused, like.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
What do you mean? And if we did do.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Something that was which like what does cringe mean? She
also uses the word ridiculous, like what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
And what do you need for?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
What did you need in sending that voicemail in because
we don't know what to offer back with that.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah, and I said it earlier, I will say it again.
I try to live by this.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I don't do it perfectly by any means, but I
like staying curious versus judgmental. And if she she could
have asked us a question or even shared with us
how that felt for her and been a little bit
more curious in what we were saying. I think that
we would be able to have a healthy dialogue that
could lead somewhere and maybe we both would get something
(08:10):
out of it. But when you just get comments like that,
we don't really know, I don't really know what to
do in that relationship with the listener.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
And so and that can be helpful information for any
relationship that you're in. Like if you tell your partner like,
oh uh, you're ridiculous for thinking that and that's cringe, well,
then yeah, you need to offer more so that they
know how.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
To, like what do you mean by that?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Move forward in a different way so you don't feel
like they're ridiculous or cringe. Yeah, So that's that's.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I want to add one more thing because we talked
about this earlier.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
I was talking about ted Lasso and I said, you
did not remember this that that quote be curious, stay curious,
not judgmental came from the dart scene, which is one
of the most famous scenes, and tilassa, you don't remember that, And.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I remember now, okay after you said it. But at
first I was like, oh, yeah, be a goldfish, And
then I was like, maybe I should be a goldfish.
On the voicemail and then I'll just forget about it.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah, And I said, oh, I cried in that scene.
And then you told me you watched the Pit.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It reminded me that you cried a lot during the Pit.
And I finally finished all fifteen or sixteen episodes or
however many there are. You did that fast, I did.
I felt like it took me a minute.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Oh, but it was a couple of weeks. You didn't
cry one time.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I didn't cry at all, not a bubble.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Up of water in your eyes.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
No, I didn't, Okay. I was more stressed. Oh, I
felt more stressed with everything because it's just one. It
is casualty, ailment, death, hardship after another. And I, you know,
felt for all the people in the waiting room like
ohow okay, And I mean I felt for the staff too.
(10:02):
But no, I think there were sad scenes. But I knew,
for whatever reason, I was able to separate this is
not real.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I know. I mean, fiction makes me sad at times,
but the Pit wasn't doing it. Okay, well, but I
wonder if that had different, folks. My other emotions were higher,
like a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Going on I mean just in my life, so that
maybe was an escape. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I also was multitasking while I was watching.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
So do you ever sit down to watch a TV show?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Okay, that one is maybe one I would recommend to
sit down because if you weren't watching, you're going to
miss so much. I had to really dial in because
you know, I have to learn about the medical stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Oh yeah, so you're basically a doctor now.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I was trying to figure out what is it called.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
When they put the tube in in debate and there's
another one where they put the chest tubes.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
One girl really wanted to do the chess tube. That's different.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I think, well, I know and bade us through the throat,
But what is the chest one called a chest tube?
But is there a word when you insert it, like
if you're intobating? I think it does. I remember her saying,
can I Shannon can look it up so we can
sound medical. What if I'm like, oh, let me think
about it here for a second, let me think about it.
(11:18):
Let me think about it. And then I look down
and Shannon has looked it up, and you're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Oh I thought accustom she.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Doesn't say that she's your chest tube. We wouldn't be
able to catch on as common folk and the TV show.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You know what, It's made me want to do, though,
rewatch Grayce No, I already, well, rewatch just her hard
for me to say, because it's r in a w
That is hard. I already rewatched Grace and I don't
think I'll rewatch that for a while now. But I
(11:51):
never watched Er.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Oh me neither. And that guy's in it the same guy.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
He is such a good actor, but maybe also I
don't know if I can. I think he's good, but
he plays he just does doctor shows.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I mean, I guess I Just the reason why I
wanted to go back and watch Er is I saw
there was like a lawsuit against the Pit from the
family of the Er creator or something. I think he
since passed away, but like they're they are or were
or at some point we're trying to sue the Pit.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
For copying this sort of Yeah, there's well.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
It's the same actor and it's basically the same. Was
that recreating a show that already existed?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Was that guy in Was that guy the main guy
in Er?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I don't know, because I haven't. I know, I did
start episode one, but I'm in the middle of it
and George Clooney is there, and and then that guy
and he's so much younger.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
But it's different.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
This is like it's not I guess to them, it's
like it's not different, Like you just took everything that
this guy created and y'all are just putting a fresh
spin on it. But I mean, I'm not saying I
support the lawsuit.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Okay, what does Pabloo say? What does Pablo Picasso say?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
As are as stealing? Is the copying or stealing? I
just mumbled it because I can't remember the exact saying,
good artist stealing, great great artists take take it away.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Good artist copy, great artists steal, or the other way around.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I don't remember exactly what it is our guy Pablo,
but Pablo said that, huh.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
It might also be one of those quotes that like
nobody really knows who they said, who said it?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
You know, they just credit it to Picasso.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, but I don't know. I don't really know the
whole quote.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
So never mind cringe that, you know what that could be?
Cringe exactly quoting I quote what I need from you
in all seriousness, just kidding. I didn't know the quote either,
but it would be I'm sure our listeners would find
it helpful for us if we're going to give a
quote to like be accurate.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But I did know it, so that's why I mumbled it.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Good artists imitate great artists, Steel.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Hmmm, is that it sounds like.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Good artist copy good I was right the first time.
Good artist copy great artist Steel.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Okay, so there's no imitate. Although that sounded lovely.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Thank you. It's my own spin on it. I was
stealing it.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Good artist copy, great artists Steel.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
What he's saying is like nothing's original. Everything has comes
from something else. Like we never had original thoughts. All
of our thoughts come from a combination of thoughts that
we've heard before, kind of like your thought about breast cancer,
Like that came from a combination of things you have heard.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
You know, So Er probably wasn't an original.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
They probably saw something else and they combined thoughts and
had a new thought about those thoughts.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Okay. The estate of Er creator Michael Crichton is suing
the creators of the show The Pit, claiming it is
an unauthorized reboot of r. The lawsuit filed by his
widow alleges a breach of contract, arguing that his agreement
with Warner Brothers included a clause preventing any er spin
offs or reboots without his estate's approval.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
I don't think it's a reboot, though it's called the
Pit and it has but it has that same emergency
room actor.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I know it's not. Yeah, because it's that the Pit
is because it's because it's at the Pittsburgh Hospital.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
Yes, the Pittsburgh it's there, Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
The saying good artist copy, great artist steal suggests that
while a good artist imitates another style directly, a great
artist is selectively taking elements from many sources and creatively
combining them to produce something new and original. The stealing
is not literal theft, but transformative process of deconstruction and
reinterpretation that makes the new work uniquely their own.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I'm going to take a little of this and a
little of this, and a little of this and a
little of this, and then a little of my own brain,
and we're going to make something new.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah. I think.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Once I watch er, i'll let you know if I
think think that The Pit is a what.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Do you watch it on you maybe all watch it
because I need a new HBO Max.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Same thing that the Pit was on, because once I
finished the Pit, it was like suggested shows you might
like that.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
We are yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, So I hope if that listener happens to hear
this episode, like you know, our heart where we're coming from,
Like we're not, We're we welcome the feedback. I guess
we just want a little bit more so that we
feel equipped to figure out exactly.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
What you mean and have a healthy way to respond. Yeah,
thanks for your voice mail.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, and we welcome feedback. So hit us up eight
seven seven two oh seven two oh seven seven, or
you can email hey, They're at Feelingthings podcast dot com,
or you can DM us at Feeling Things podcast on
all the socials.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
And we hope you have Sorry I tried to say
your part.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Oh, and we hope you have the day.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Take three.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
We hope you have the day you need to have.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Bye,
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just won't Amy
and Cat gotcha covin locking No, brother, Ladies and folks,
do you just follow an the spirit where tell us
phone over real stuff, tell the chill stuff and the.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
M but Swayne.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Sometimes the best thing you can do it just stop
you feel things. This is Feeling.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Things with Amy and Kat.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Happy Thursday. Welcome to Couch Talks, our listener Q and
A for our Feeling Things podcast. I'm Amy and I'm Kat.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
And quick disclaimer.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Although on these episodes we usually answer listener emails, this
does not serve as a substitute for therapy.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, we do listener emails. We do voicemails as well,
and today's is a listener of voicemail. There's not so
much a question. It's more of a statement or an opinion,
which I think is great. We wanted to share it though,
as a opportunity to further clarify I guess and then
also have a discussion on feedback. And Kat and I
(01:08):
welcome it, like I almost wish this listener said more.
I don't almost wish. I actually do wish they said
more because I want the feedback I want to know
when I need to do better or say something differently,
or own what I said and take it back like ooh,
I shouldn't have said it that way, because I mean
(01:28):
I can certainly do that, at least I hope. I
want to be someone that can hear that feedback from
a listener and do it. And so we're sharing this
voicemail as an opportunity to talk about the type of
communication we want to have with y'all. And then where
it kind of leaves us hanging because as you'll hear,
(01:50):
I guess I gave her the ick if you will
on something and I'm like, well, dang, shoot, like I
want to figure out how to how to make it
better or how I could have said it differently, and
what she's referring to. I just would like more clarity
on or what was cringe.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Or even not even say it differently, like maybe you
guys just have different opinions and that's okay, let's play it.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Okay, let's play it.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, Okay, So here is the voicemail. We're not saying
the name just out of respect. Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I was just listening to your podcast that you uploaded
recently on breastcuster awareness, and you made a statement that
if it was a man's problem, there would be more research,
and I just felt like that statement was so cringe,
Like that's ridiculous to even say that.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Okay, so I'm trying to figure out what was cringe,
and so that's why it would be helpful to elaborate
if if we ever think something is cringe, Like if
if you had a problem caat with something that I
said later, you may come to me and me like, oh, Amy,
when we're talking about this, I cringed a little when
you said this this way.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
And this is what it brought up for me, or
this is the judgment I had about it, or this
is what I heard in what you were saying. I
think that voicemail, like we said, like we welcome the
feedback because we've both probably said things that we probably
could have said better, or that we both probably have
said things that we probably needed to clarify, or we've
said things that we'd want to take back.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Oh I I've cringed at myself. Yeah. For so we're
not so to that listener, you are not alone. Yeah,
I have.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Also, we're not above crnch. We can be cringey and
we can make mistakes. It's that this is kind of
half of a thought, and so it's hard for us
to I don't really know what to do with it,
because I want to know more information.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Whether, like I said earlier, whether we just have.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Different opinions, or whether we did misspeak or maybe we
weren't clear on something. I have so many curiosities in
my brain right now about what her experience.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Was, which we love curiosity. Yeah, and so maybe through
this she could further elaborate. It's also giving me an
opportunity to elaborate a little more in a non defensive way,
which which I have to work on. It's come up before.
I've been known to be a little defensive at times.
According to my boyfriend, I can get really defensive, and
I think that that's something that I do naturally to
(04:12):
protect myself and I've done it for a very long time,
and so that is my go to And in this
I had to make sure, like, oh, I want to clarify,
but not out of defensiveness, just for clarification, because we
didn't spend a lot of time on that. It was
something I said in passing and flippantly if you will.
(04:32):
I don't want to disregard anybody's experience that might be
different than that. It's not like I'm speaking from something
personally within myself. I've just heard other experts talk about it,
women doctors. There's different studies that have been done, and
I pulled up one in particular that is from Harvard
Medical School. This is a twenty twenty two study, though,
(04:55):
but as of twenty nineteen, women were substantially underrepresented in
clinical trials for leading diseases. And that's a similar study
that has stuck with me that I've seen elsewhere on
social media. Now, I can't cite every single thing, and
I didn't go through and like pull a bunch of points,
because it's not the point of all of this. I
(05:17):
think I just was regurgitating in my own words something
I had heard time and time again that I don't
think is false. I don't think it's cringe because I
actually believe it to be true. Yeah, So I don't
know what's cringe about it. I feel like since the
beginning of time, women have been fighting for equal representation
(05:40):
in things. It's not far fetched to believe that men
have taken priority in a lot of areas particularly research
and doctor Marie Claire. That's someone who I know has
touched on this in general, and she does a lot
with menopause and something that she had said or a
(06:01):
study she read or something she put up on socials.
At some point, I know that that sits in the
back of my brain about how as a female doctor
and having gone through menopause and her feeling all of
the things she has felt the last several years and
experienced the different changes in her body and what she's
gone through, Like if men were to have experienced menopause,
(06:23):
research would have started well before now. And you're seeing
a flood of research into menopause because it's finally happening,
but it would have happened decades ago if men were
the ones having all of the symptoms that we have
to experience as women. And I really believe that to
be true. But I don't think it's cringe And that's
really what I meant by that. And I know with
(06:44):
breast cancer it's tricky because men can also get breast cancer,
but it's predominantly a women's thing. Then Kat and I
got curious and we were like, oh, I wonder if
we could do research on like a predominantly male type
cancer like prostate cancer versus breast cancer. And then that
was us getting into the weeds of it. Aren't really
going to try to come on here and defend our
case and have all of these stats and facts. It
(07:05):
was just more of I can come up with a
generalized opinion based on things that my brain is pulling
from a bunch of different things I've seen over the years,
and have that opinion.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
That's where I regardless of all of the weeds of it.
My thing with this listener's voicemail is I still am confused, like.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
What do you mean? And if we did do.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Something that was which like what does cringe mean? She
also uses the word ridiculous, like what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
And what do you need for?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
What did you need in sending that voicemail in because
we don't know what to offer back with that.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah, and I said it earlier, I will say it again.
I try to live by this.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I don't do it perfectly by any means, but I
like staying curious versus judgmental. And if she she could
have asked us a question or even shared with us
how that felt for her and been a little bit
more curious in what we were saying. I think that
we would be able to have a healthy dialogue that
could lead somewhere and maybe we both would get something
(08:10):
out of it. But when you just get comments like that,
we don't really know, I don't really know what to
do in that relationship with the listener.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
And so and that can be helpful information for any
relationship that you're in. Like if you tell your partner like,
oh uh, you're ridiculous for thinking that and that's cringe, well,
then yeah, you need to offer more so that they
know how.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
To, like what do you mean by that?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Move forward in a different way so you don't feel
like they're ridiculous or cringe. Yeah, So that's that's.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I want to add one more thing because we talked
about this earlier.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
I was talking about ted Lasso and I said, you
did not remember this that that quote be curious, stay curious,
not judgmental came from the dart scene, which is one
of the most famous scenes, and tilassa, you don't remember that, And.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I remember now, okay after you said it. But at
first I was like, oh, yeah, be a goldfish, And
then I was like, maybe I should be a goldfish.
On the voicemail and then I'll just forget about it.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah, And I said, oh, I cried in that scene.
And then you told me you watched the Pit.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It reminded me that you cried a lot during the Pit.
And I finally finished all fifteen or sixteen episodes or
however many there are. You did that fast, I did.
I felt like it took me a minute.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Oh, but it was a couple of weeks. You didn't
cry one time.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I didn't cry at all, not a bubble.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Up of water in your eyes.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
No, I didn't, Okay. I was more stressed. Oh, I
felt more stressed with everything because it's just one. It
is casualty, ailment, death, hardship after another. And I, you know,
felt for all the people in the waiting room like
ohow okay, And I mean I felt for the staff too.
(10:02):
But no, I think there were sad scenes. But I knew,
for whatever reason, I was able to separate this is
not real.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I know. I mean, fiction makes me sad at times,
but the Pit wasn't doing it. Okay, well, but I
wonder if that had different, folks. My other emotions were higher,
like a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Going on I mean just in my life, so that
maybe was an escape. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I also was multitasking while I was watching.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
So do you ever sit down to watch a TV show?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Okay, that one is maybe one I would recommend to
sit down because if you weren't watching, you're going to
miss so much. I had to really dial in because
you know, I have to learn about the medical stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Oh yeah, so you're basically a doctor now.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I was trying to figure out what is it called.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
When they put the tube in in debate and there's
another one where they put the chest tubes.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
One girl really wanted to do the chess tube. That's different.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I think, well, I know and bade us through the throat,
But what is the chest one called a chest tube?
But is there a word when you insert it, like
if you're intobating? I think it does. I remember her saying,
can I Shannon can look it up so we can
sound medical. What if I'm like, oh, let me think
about it here for a second, let me think about it.
(11:18):
Let me think about it. And then I look down
and Shannon has looked it up, and you're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Oh I thought accustom she.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Doesn't say that she's your chest tube. We wouldn't be
able to catch on as common folk and the TV show.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You know what, It's made me want to do, though,
rewatch Grayce No, I already, well, rewatch just her hard
for me to say, because it's r in a w
That is hard. I already rewatched Grace and I don't
think I'll rewatch that for a while now. But I
(11:51):
never watched Er.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Oh me neither. And that guy's in it the same guy.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
He is such a good actor, but maybe also I
don't know if I can. I think he's good, but
he plays he just does doctor shows.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I mean, I guess I Just the reason why I
wanted to go back and watch Er is I saw
there was like a lawsuit against the Pit from the
family of the Er creator or something. I think he
since passed away, but like they're they are or were
or at some point we're trying to sue the Pit.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
For copying this sort of Yeah, there's well.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
It's the same actor and it's basically the same. Was
that recreating a show that already existed?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Was that guy in Was that guy the main guy
in Er?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I don't know, because I haven't. I know, I did
start episode one, but I'm in the middle of it
and George Clooney is there, and and then that guy
and he's so much younger.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
But it's different.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
This is like it's not I guess to them, it's
like it's not different, Like you just took everything that
this guy created and y'all are just putting a fresh
spin on it. But I mean, I'm not saying I
support the lawsuit.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Okay, what does Pabloo say? What does Pablo Picasso say?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
As are as stealing? Is the copying or stealing? I
just mumbled it because I can't remember the exact saying,
good artist stealing, great great artists take take it away.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Good artist copy, great artists steal, or the other way around.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I don't remember exactly what it is our guy Pablo,
but Pablo said that, huh.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
It might also be one of those quotes that like
nobody really knows who they said, who said it?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
You know, they just credit it to Picasso.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, but I don't know. I don't really know the
whole quote.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
So never mind cringe that, you know what that could be?
Cringe exactly quoting I quote what I need from you
in all seriousness, just kidding. I didn't know the quote either,
but it would be I'm sure our listeners would find
it helpful for us if we're going to give a
quote to like be accurate.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But I did know it, so that's why I mumbled it.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Good artists imitate great artists, Steel.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Hmmm, is that it sounds like.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Good artist copy good I was right the first time.
Good artist copy great artist Steel.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Okay, so there's no imitate. Although that sounded lovely.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Thank you. It's my own spin on it. I was
stealing it.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Good artist copy, great artists Steel.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
What he's saying is like nothing's original. Everything has comes
from something else. Like we never had original thoughts. All
of our thoughts come from a combination of thoughts that
we've heard before, kind of like your thought about breast cancer,
Like that came from a combination of things you have heard.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
You know, So Er probably wasn't an original.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
They probably saw something else and they combined thoughts and
had a new thought about those thoughts.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Okay. The estate of Er creator Michael Crichton is suing
the creators of the show The Pit, claiming it is
an unauthorized reboot of r. The lawsuit filed by his
widow alleges a breach of contract, arguing that his agreement
with Warner Brothers included a clause preventing any er spin
offs or reboots without his estate's approval.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
I don't think it's a reboot, though it's called the
Pit and it has but it has that same emergency
room actor.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I know it's not. Yeah, because it's that the Pit
is because it's because it's at the Pittsburgh Hospital.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
Yes, the Pittsburgh it's there, Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
The saying good artist copy, great artist steal suggests that
while a good artist imitates another style directly, a great
artist is selectively taking elements from many sources and creatively
combining them to produce something new and original. The stealing
is not literal theft, but transformative process of deconstruction and
reinterpretation that makes the new work uniquely their own.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I'm going to take a little of this and a
little of this, and a little of this and a
little of this, and then a little of my own brain,
and we're going to make something new.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah. I think.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Once I watch er, i'll let you know if I
think think that The Pit is a what.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Do you watch it on you maybe all watch it
because I need a new HBO Max.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Same thing that the Pit was on, because once I
finished the Pit, it was like suggested shows you might
like that.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
We are yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, So I hope if that listener happens to hear
this episode, like you know, our heart where we're coming from,
Like we're not, We're we welcome the feedback. I guess
we just want a little bit more so that we
feel equipped to figure out exactly.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
What you mean and have a healthy way to respond. Yeah,
thanks for your voice mail.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, and we welcome feedback. So hit us up eight
seven seven two oh seven two oh seven seven, or
you can email hey, They're at Feelingthings podcast dot com,
or you can DM us at Feeling Things podcast on
all the socials.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
And we hope you have Sorry I tried to say
your part.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Oh, and we hope you have the day.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Take three.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
We hope you have the day you need to have.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Bye,
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