August 15, 2023 • 38 mins
Just because you’ve been in therapy for 15 years (or however long) and you still go doesn’t mean something is wrong with you or that it’s not working. Some people seem to think that there is a final destination when it comes to personal growth and that’s just not the case. This topic came up because of today's quote: “Debating if I should continue my healing journey or go insane?” (this made us Lol because it most definitely hits home for some days!)
Does Amy have some weird disease?? Amy has an underlying issue that is causing her mouth to be really dry. If anyone has any idea what this could be….let us know!
Shoutout Little Words Project!! Amy was given LWP bracelets by two different friends at a radio seminar this last weekend. One friend gave her ‘BLOOM’ and another gave her ‘KEEP GOING’ - these bracelets are so cute!
Do you know the difference between unplugging and recharging? It’s very important to know the difference and make sure you’re doing both!
What does Amy do with her wedding ring now that she is divorced? Jewelry is precious, so keeping it in the family is likely what she will do! Thoughts?
Amy & Kat talk about all of this & MORE! Hope you enjoy and have the day you need to have!!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Have you Tuesday, Welcome to the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Amy and I'm Cat And today's quote is so
debating if I should continue my healing journey or go insane.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Uh? TVD, TVD, what about you? I think I'm in
between both of them right now. I'm going back and forth.
Well as a therapist.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm sure that there's people that are on their way
to your office some days and they're like, so, should
I keep going to this or just, you know, let
myself completely go embrace the chaos. Embrace the chaos. Right now,
my mouth is very dry. I don't know why. I
think maybe it's because I switched toothpaste or something is
(00:45):
going on. And I need to listen to my body,
because you hear that if there's changes in your body
or anything like that, pay close attention and go to
the doctor. Right Sometimes people have these obscure first symptoms
but they didn't think anything of it, but it's abnormal,
and then weeks later they find out they're dying.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Are you trying to freak me out? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I'm not trying to freak you out. I'm just trying
to say, this is an abnormal thing. For my mouth,
and I don't know what caused it, and I looked
up things you can do to help with a dry
mouth because I keep having to like swallow, and it's
it's a lot of effort to swallow. Are like kind
of hat Yeah, it doesn't hurt, but it's like I
don't have enough gets stuck moisture.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
You can't finish swallowing exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And one of the things it says to avoid is caffeine,
And I'm like, okay, I'm here with my coffee as well,
and I'm not gonna stop drinking my coffee. But I
do need to probably figure this out because I don't
know if this is some weird symptom for something that's
going on in my body that I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Are you dehydrated? I don't think so. I shouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I've been drinking more water because of this, and it
hasn't changed.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Did you see my videos that I posted when I
was at the beach of my hand twitching?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Why did it? No? Sorry? What happened?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You really just clicked next as the video of her hand.
I noticed it last time I went to the beach.
I was reading on my kindle, and like my thumb
kept like moving and I couldn't stop it, and I
was like, oh, whatever, not a big deal. Well, then
I went to the beach again this couple weeks ago,
and it was happening again when I was reading, and
then it just kept happening. It looked like there was
a heartbeat in the palm of my hand. So I
(02:25):
posted I thought I was having like a neurological disorder,
like the beginnings of Right, that's not normal. And my
mom was like, that's not normal, and she's supposed to
tell you that things are okay.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
But I was just dehydrated. Okay, so lecture. Yeah, so
maybe you just are thirsty because you need more.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, I've been thirsty before and I've been able to swallow.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
You know, Well, should you go to the doctor?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I We'll see TVD Last Thursday, I shared in the
Four Things episode my mammogram thing where I had to
go back for a second scan and then they said
after the scan, we want to do an ultrasound. We
need to get a better look. And those appointments terrify
me because I am very scared of getting cancer. So
(03:07):
I now know in life I can't put that stuff off.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I can't avoid it. I just need to face it
head on.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
But I'm sort of scared to go to the doctor
to figure why I have a dry mouth. Speaking of
when my mom had cancer, her mouth would get really dry.
I guess it was maybe from her chemo or radiation.
I can't remember exactly which one caused it, but she
had these things the hospital would give her. They were
almost like sponges, and you could dip them in water
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and then just keep them in your mouth, and it
was very satisfying to her.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So maybe I need to get some of those.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Well maybe, But I don't think dry mouth is usually
the onset of cancer.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That sounds like, I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I don't know if it's cancer. It could be something else. Yeah, Okay,
let me see, is dry mouth the onset of disease.
A dry mouth is a symptom of an underlying problem,
rather than a condition itself.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
See, there you go, there's an under The underlying problem
could be dehydration.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
A number of things may cause a persistent dry mouth,
including prescription medications. Yeah, but I mean I've been on
the same I have not had a change. St correct
medical treatments and certain autoimmune diseases. Okay, treatment includes products
that help to moisten the.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Mouth like it'spune. So you might have an autoimmune disease.
We'll figure out my underlying problem.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
But if anybody else has any tips, hit me up
at Radio Amy get into my DMS.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I have these bracelets on here.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
They're the little Words Project bracelets. I've seen these around,
but I've never had one before. But the point is
you get them, and you wear a bunch of them,
and you give them away to people that need them.
And this last weekend I was at a radio seminar.
It's called Morning Show boot Camp. It's been going on
for decades and a lot of morning show people from
all over the country gather together different companies. I work
(04:58):
for iHeart, but is there all the other ones? And
I was with two people that I really look up to.
They're a lot of fun. I don't get to spend
a lot of time with them. But one of them
is Carla Marie. She started off on the Elvis Drancho
in New York and then she moved to Washington with
her partner. They were just radio partners, like they really
(05:19):
were co hosts on a podcast. And then iHeart gave
them their own morning show, and so they went to
do that. His name is Anthony, and then they announced
that they're dating, but everyone always thought they were dating
and they really were just friends and then they fell
in love. So I got to see Carla Marie and Anthony,
and she's one of the people that gave me a
bracelet that says keep Going and then it's got these
cute little beads around it and they all have words
of encouragement. And then Ricky Sanchez, who works in Nashville
(05:43):
on the pop station the River, she gave me one
that says bloom and they say all different things and
then they get to choose which one they want to
give you or Carla Marie just came and put keep
Going on me, and then Ricky held out her arms
that I want you to have one of these, picked
the one that resonates with you, and I picked blue.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So are we supposed to because you give them away?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, they had them stacked up on their rest and
you keep them, you can, but the point is to
give them away. To give them away and then you
can replenish your stack if you want, or you maybe
meet somebody else that then gives you one, but there's
so many, and they look cute together. It doesn't look overwhelming.
It looks like, oh, they just styled all these bracelets together.
But it was started by this girl. I ended up
going to the website and she says here that after
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years of bullying, I started making bracelets in college for
myself and my sorority sisters. The wearable affirmations reminded us
of our worth and got us through the tough times together.
Ten years and millions of bracelets later, the Little Words
Project community is living proof that kindness is a superpower. Anyway,
I had never had one of these, nor had I
been to her website, but now I want to order
a stack so that I.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Can pass them out. Yeah, so you come in the pack,
not just one at a time. I don't know, I
haven't bought a yet. Maybe you can buy a pack.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I bet you can buy some singles outlooks here. Now
I'm looking, they have a pack singles and then also customized.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I was going to say, what if I want a
special saying.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, you could put whatever you wanted, like you could
put go insane.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Choose insanity. That says choose healing, Choose healing.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
And then the next one that says choose insanity and
you just pick one for the day.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
But I was thinking of.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Like bloom and the word bloom and blossoming and blooming
into your fullest potential or your highest version of yourself.
And I think through continuing the hard work or the therapy,
that is what we're always trying to do, and there's
never a there's never really an end. Allie Fallon sent
out a newsletter the other day that talked about a
(07:41):
joke someone made to her after she said she'd been
in some form of therapy for the last fifteen years
and they're like, well, it doesn't really sound like it's working.
Have you been going that long? And she thought, well,
it's not really funny. I get the joke, I get
what you're trying to say, but I don't think there's
ever an end in it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And Ali was saying that same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And I think sometimes we want to know, Okay, when
am I going to be done with this part? Or
when am I going to be done with the work,
And so you as a therapist, cat like, what are
your thoughts on that? And encouragement to people that just
feel like they're on this journey and they're exhausted for me.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, I actually did on You Need Therapy, an episode
about the line between self development and self acceptance, and
it's such a complex idea and it started from this
podcast I listened to years ago. It was Tim Ferris
and Brene Brown, and Brene I think is the one
that said, like, how do you draw the line between
trying to be the best version of yourself and accepting
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who you are?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Which is when you think.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
When you hear that, you're like, yeah, how do I
keep trying to bloom? But also I have to at
some point say this is me and I have to
accept these parts of me.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And this is a personal belief.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So you can disagree with me, but I don't think
there's a way to have one without the other, because
if I am always striving to be the best version
of myself, I'm also pushing the parts of me that
are just intuitively me away and refusing to accept that.
And if I just say, well, this is me, this
is just how I'm going to be, then it becomes
(09:15):
this almost like lasadaisical, like giving up crutch. Yeah, and
it doesn't even feel authentic. It's like, well, this is me,
and then you don't actually get to reach your full potential.
So to me, it's such a complex thought that makes
my brain do gymnastics. But I've come to the conclusion
that we're always going to be accepting ourselves and giving
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ourselves grace and allowing ourselves to be where we are
while knowing that we can move forward at the same time,
and that means therapy can last as long as you
want it to.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You don't always have to be in therapy for the
same things, right, and therapy could look different.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Sometimes it could be going to your therapist or an
actual person that you're talking to, and other times it
might be different forms. It could be that you're taking
more walks with nature, you're doing more journaling, you're doing
different types of theory. Maybe it's you try neuro feedback
for a little bit, or you do some brain spotting
and then you take a break and then you do
talk therapy. There's lots of different things, obviously.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Well, and sometimes my talk therapy, I'm going in there
and I'm talking about the things I'm proud of. So
it's not always I'm going in here to change something
about me. It's more about some days I'm going in
there to accept where I am and talk about the
place that I am and why I'm proud of that.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I started improv and I'm looking at is it as
a form of therapy? I started improv and I'm looking
at is it as a form of therapy. I did
even look at my calendar, and I had to because
(10:49):
it's a three hour class every week for eight weeks,
and so I did pause my therapy because I just
thought this is going to be something that's good for me.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I'm going to laugh.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I'm exercising my brain and if I need to book
an emergency session for some reason, then I will. But
I had to move some things around. It doesn't mean
that you have to put all of these things on
your calendar at once, so you'll go insane.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Mm hmm, you'll choose insanity accidently. Wait did you start improv? Yeah?
What it was?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
It like?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It's so good. I love it.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
The first day we went over kind of the rules
of improv, and one of the rules that really stuck
with me that I love is yes and and so
I feel like sometimes you can be like no but
to people, or yes but to people, but they really
want you to look at everything that's being said as yes,
and you're excited about what the last person said, and
you piggyback on it with a yes, and you don't
(11:44):
have to even actually say yes. And but it's like, okay, yes,
I like that, and let's take it here. And so
I really liked that even for just my everyday life
being more of a yes and with myself and coworkers.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
With my kids.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, think about how that helps compromising in relationships like
you are trying to understand each other instead of saying no,
but you don't get it. This is what's going to happen,
or no, I want to do this. It's yes, I
hear you. And let's think about this too. That is
a skill that can be used for everything.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes and well you know us comedians. We are you
a comedian now now? But it is at the comedy club.
It's at Third Coast Comedy on near Church Street.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Will you do a show? I don't think so, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
You can't miss more than two of the eight classes
or you won't graduate. And so then I don't know
what happens after I graduate, because I'm in level one.
Do I get to level two? And then maybe yeah,
do we put on a performance for our friends and family?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Not sure? Do you go on tour? We'll see.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm really
liking it, and I feel like it's tapping into other
parts of my brain. I don't think it's fully done
yet what I thought. I think I'm going to go
the full eight weeks, and who knows, Maybe I do
Level two and I go another eight weeks and then
you know, I see some fruit from that labor in
my brain. But certain parts of my creativity have felt
blocked for a long time, and this is a therapy
(13:07):
that I'm using a tool to maybe tap into some
of that. And also just unplugging and recharging is a
big part of that too, and those are two different things.
Like unplugging is really disconnecting yourself from your work, and
then recharging is doing some sort of activity that fills
you up. Some people use them interchangeably, and so I've
(13:29):
really been trying to focus on, Okay, I've completely detached
from work at this point, and now what can I
do that's gonna fill me back up? And like create
fun and then you're you are fun? You are fun?
You're always looking for fun. We know you have to
have fun on your calendar. So what do you have
fun coming up that you're looking forward to. Well, I've
booked a trip to kN Kuhn.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
What I feel like.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Last time we talked about, you're like, I made Patrick
randomly book a trip to New York for Christmas, a
trip to kN Kun for what.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I found a.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Really good deal where through a traveling but we originally
were going to go to can Kun for our friend's
birthday because they had a free place to stay. Well
that fell through, but I had it on my mind
that I was going to get together can Kune. So
I was like, I can make this work, just hold on.
So I spent like a week doing research. Found a
really great deal. We're going to like an all inclusive place,
(14:18):
I guess for her birthday, but also just because I
need to have some extra fun.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So when is this coming? At the end of September,
the last week in September. Okay, so that fills the
September fun kelend.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, and then we'll have my Batcherette party, then we'll
have Thanksgiving, then it's my birthday then so I have
every month a couple of things to you.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Know, this is something that y'all need to know about Kat.
This is what she does, and I admire it.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I think it's great, and I will say there are
I am working on learning how to relax and be Yesterday,
we had plans and they got canceled, so we had
the whole day to just like do nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
By we, you mean you and me and Patrick.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah, and he's fine, just like he's like, let's start
a new show to do this and whatever, and we
can just hang out at the house. And I'm like, well,
should we play a game or should we play a
different game? Should we try to make a meal? Should
we go out to eat? Should we go on a walk?
And he's like, oh my gosh. I think at like
four times I was like, probably more than four. Am
I annoying you yet? Because I struggle to just be still?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
But I have a tattooed on my arm?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Should you accept that part of you or work on
that part of both?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I think it's part of it is what makes me
me sometimes and part of it takes away from experiencing
things with other people. Like I could have had a
really calm, quiet day yesterday with Patrick and we had
a good day.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I eventually made him walk to go. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I saw you post on Instagram that y'all were playing games,
watching New Girl and drinking wine and it was two pm.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, So I said, okay, I'll watch a TV show
if you play a game of sequence with me. So
we did that like a game of sequence a TV show,
a game of sequence than a TV show.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And then I said, I can't do this anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Which, speaking of shows, have you seen hijack yet? I
don't think I can do it?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Well, I did it, and then I got on an airplane.
I don't Yeah, fine, does it not?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Well? I was only going Dallas to Nashville? Was it international?
So I felt like, this is not a long enough
flight to ask for demands. You know, if someone's gonna hijack,
it's not much you can do on a short flight,
but on a long flight overseas, I would probably be
a little more nervous.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But it's really good. I don't know. I like that.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
And well the summer it turned pretty are you watching that?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I tried to watch the second season and I just
could not get through it.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
The finale is this week. Yeah, I'm not probably gonna
I gave up.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Oh what are you not into teenagers falling in love
at the beach?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I just did.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
It wasn't stimulating me.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
But I watched Crowded Room and Silo recently, and those
shows were incredible.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I tried to watch Crowded Room per your suggestion, and
I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
You have to get through two episodes, Okay, I promise, Okay,
I believe you.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Okay, And then I did start Silo and I really
like that good. But I'm not done hijack. Hijacked the
Silo watching because I started that on my trip when
I went to Dallas, and I pretty much watched it
the whole time was gone. Because I was in a
hotel room. I watched shows while I'm getting ready. I
had to while I get dressed, while I do my makeup,
while I do my hair. When I blow dry my hair,
I put the subtitles on.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So that I can like just keep it going.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I could sit in silence for what like I feel
like you always had You're like me a little bit you.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
No, I don't always have fun things. I'm just saying,
if I want to watch something, that's how I get
it done. I have it on my computer and I
carry it around. I probably need to practice more of
laying on a couch once I get one and watching
it on my TV in my living room or something,
and not multitasking and not doing well, I'm doing laundry
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or folding laundry or and that's not because I'm this
super busy person. It's just that that's how I do anything.
I felt like I needed to clarify that because I
feel like it says like, oh, what, you don't have
time too good to sit down and watch TV. It's like,
well no, but especially now that my kids have started
school and there's homework and pickups and all the things.
Which did you know that I almost cried day one
(18:05):
of school pickup?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, because we were on the phone.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Oh we were, and you hung up the phone on
me and then you had to call me back.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
It was so stressful and I thought I was going
to cry. And the next day I started and I
was like, well, this makes a lot of sense now
I know why I was so stressed out. Which I
got really stressed out when I was on the panel
at the boot camp. I was speaking and I looked
down and I wore my mom's charm bracelet. I wanted
to have her with me on stage, and it's her
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charm bracelet from the late sixties when she graduated high school.
It was one of her presents and it's so cool
and I love it. And I looked down and it
was not on my wrist and I'm in the middle
of my panel and I realized it and I start
freaking out.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And good thing.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I had put liners painting liners in my blazer jacket
because I was already nervous to go on stage. But
at that point I just started really sweating and I
was like, Okay, which pro tip you can do that.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I'd never done that before.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Some people are like, oh, yeah, I've been doing that
for years, and other people like mind blown, never heard
of that before. It was just a last minute thing
that I thought of when I was walking out the
door of my hotel room and I thought, huh, so
I took my blazer on.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I added in real quick, and I was like, oh,
this is going to be good because.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It won't ruin my blazer that has to get dry
cleaned and I don't want to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
So that's what you can do.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And then people sent me links to these actual underarmed
patches that they sell on Amazon, and you can buy
them and put them in and they're they're a little
bit thicker and wider because I had to double up.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I had to do like two on each side. But
I'm sure people know they sell those.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
If you don't know, you can google it on Amazon
and you can get them in case. That's the thing,
like if for people said they love wearing them with
their sweaters because they don't always want to wash a sweater.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
That's so smart, I know. So anyway, what happened to
the bracelet?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I'm on stage and I'm sweating, freaking out, and I've
got to focus because i have to speak, but all
I can think about is how I've lost my mom's bracelet.
And then I took a few deep breaths, but not
deep enough to the obvious to the audience.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
And I'm looking at Elizabeth Fozzio, who we work with.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
She's in the audience, and I'm looking at her and
I'm pointing to my arm, like my bracelet, and she's
like what, I'm like, my bracelet. And then I'm like, okay,
I just have to worry about this later. My hotel
room was in the same hotel as the conference, so
all I had to do was go downstairs to the
conference room. So we're good, I have not left this building.
The bracelet is going to be here. I will find it.
(20:28):
And then after I got off stage, I immediately started saying, hey,
lost my bracelet, and this one woman goes, oh, bracelet,
We had one turned in. After I got off stage,
(20:49):
I immediately started saying, hey, lost my bracelet, and this
one woman goes, oh, bracelet, We had one turned in.
And then she goes and gets it and brings it
to me, and I was like, that's it, thank you.
Hundreds and hundreds of people are at this conference, and
the person that turned it in was my friend Carla Marie.
That happened to give me this keep going words bracelet.
(21:10):
Oh my god, Because later I had it on and
carl Marie came up. She goes, oh, my gosh, that's
the bracelet I found earlier. And I said, thank you
so much for finding it and turning it in. What
are the odds that someone I know that I'm friends
with found it.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And didn't know it was yours too? Yeah, that's crazy,
And like I think that sometimes people surprise you more
than not. You think you lost something and somebody's going
to keep it or sell it or whatever. There are
so many good people that will find them in the
ground and turn it in and hopefully you then have
the idea to go ask for it.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I want to believe the best in people, except for
the person that was in front of me that slammed
on their brakes. Then I had a slam on my
brakes and it caused the cupcakes that I had just
picked up for Stevenson's birthday party. I put two on
the floorboard, and I don't know why I set one
on the back seat. I should have put it on
the floorboard because then it would have been fine. But
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when I slammed on the brakes, it flew from the
top of the back seat onto the floorboard and that
whole that box a dozen got ruined and I needed
each box.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So I thought, well, what am I gonna.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Do now because I'm not near a grocery store, And
then I passed a Great American Cookie Company, so I
pulled in there.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
What does this make possible? I got a.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Great American Cookie Company cookie slices because they didn't have
time to make me a cake. But I bought a
bunch of slices and some cookies and that was the replacement.
The only problem is that was the more popular thing
other than the cupcakes.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I was gonna say, people probably will want then you
have a variety. So it's a good thing that happened.
But then you didn't have enough cookies for everybody. I'm
sure you can't have the cookie to have a cupcake. Well,
I broke the.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Cookies into pieces, so I was like, you can have
a piece of this.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Cookie and then one whole cup and a cupcake. Enjoy.
Thank you. So that's what I had to do there.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
But when it comes back to the goodness of people,
the person that slam on the brakes, I don't even
know why I feel bad. It's happened to me before, whatever,
But the person behind me was acting like it was
me that had a slam on my brakes, and they
start honking and then they do this and they go
around me like they're all angry, and they look at
me like I'm an idiot, and I'm like, WHOA, I
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reacted quickly and probably safe foodful, and now you're mad
at me. I didn't get mad at the person that
had a slam. We who know? Was there a cat?
Was there a baby bird? Was the turtle a turtle? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Which that's what we saw for Stevens's birthday as the
new Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It's so good. Is it a cartoon? Yeah, it's a cartoon,
but it's good. I mean, especially if you have kids.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It's one where adults could sit through it and you
would like it to still have a good time, especially
because I grew up watching teenage mutant Ninja Turtles. But
I really enjoyed it. Anyway, that person did not have
grace for the situation and they were not giving out
good energy.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
They probably would not return. They'd keep the bracelet a
bracelet if they found it. Maybe they were having a
mad day.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You're right, I need to have grace for the person
that didn't have grace. You're right, good point. Which I
was determined to find that bracelet anyway, kind of like
I was determined to find one time I lost my
wedding band in North Carolina in the snow, and I
got a metal detector when I got back in the
spring and I found it. And the reason why I
was gone a season was because Ben at the time
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he was in the Air Force and he was in Afghanistan,
and so my mom flew to North Carolina to drive
home with me because I wanted to go work from
the Bobby Bone Troe studio in Austin and live with
her for the two two and a half months that
bin was gone. And then when I went back in
the spring, so I left in January, came back in March.
The snow had melted and I still couldn't find the ring.
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So I went and I rented a metal detector, and
I found it. Where was it between my house and
my garage? I had a detached garage. I knew I
had dropped it there, but then we couldn't find it,
and we had to get on the road and we
were trying to leave at five am, so it was
dark out, and so if we delayed till it was
light out, it just would have delayed our whole trip.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Did you find anything else with the metal detector?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
No? I wish that would have been awesome, but I didn't.
But hey, keep going, don't give up. That's my other
bracelet that just keep going, just keep swimming, don't give up,
even if it's been forever, and my Aggie ring is missing.
That's been missing for over a decade. But I know
that will turn up eventually. We hear stories all the
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time of class rings that are found. How will they
maybe years later? My name is engraved on the inside
and it's Texas A and M class of O three.
It's cold with teeny tiny diamond. That's how you know
it's me. But it's not Amy Brown. I think it
says Amy E. Moffatt's name Elizabeth.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I don't think I knew that what yours? Mary? I
knew that Catherine Mary Defata.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
So the ring, if anybody finds it, make sure you
get that back to me.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
And that and my last note.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I'm keeping my last name Brown because it's professionally speaking.
That wasn't even really a conversation between me and Ben.
I mean maybe for a minute during the divorce, but
then as for my actual the wedding bands and the
wedding ring, my engagement diamond, what do I do with that?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's yours?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I know, Ben and I have never even talked about
it. It hasn't come up. And I was packing jewelry for
the trip to Dallas, and I opened up my jewelry
box and I saw it, and it made me think
about it, like what do I do with this? Do
I hold on to it? And I don't know, could
Stashira use it one day or Stevenson?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Potentially you can.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Give it to them and they can even they can
even make another piece of jewelry out of it, doesn't
have to remain a ring.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So when my mom died, her wedding band which she
got divorced years before, she passed away, but she kept
the ring my dad had given her, and it was
this thick gold band with a diamond on top, and
we took it to a jeweler after she passed away,
and my sister took the diamond and I took the
thick gold band. Anytime you see me wearing that gold band,
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that was her wedding band and we separated the diamonds.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
You could also do something like that. I don't know. Yeah,
And you don't have to decide right now. I know.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I just saw it, and then we were talking about
rings and made me think, hmm, what do I do?
And then I wonder if my Aggie ring is at
a pawn shop And I was like, well, if I
ever got desperate, I could take my diamond to a
pawn chop or a jewelry store probably.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
But who would want somebody's old class ring.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I don't know. Maybe they melt down the gold, Oh
it's real gold. Or maybe if they're applying for a
job and they wanted to say they went to a
certain school and they didn't.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I can prove to you that I went there.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Half the ring they hit up pond chops and then
they create this whole degree for themselves, and how they
went to the certain university. Because Bin's air force ring
was stolen at the same time and he never got
his back. See, the thing is, I don't know if
my ring was lost or stolen. Our house did get robbed,
and I can't remember if it was in the jewelry
(27:59):
by or if I lost it in that timeframe. But
all of a sudden it got me thinking, where's my
ague ring? I haven't seen it, so either I did
misplace it and lose it, or the robbers took that
as well. The thing is, Ben knew that his air
Force ring was in the jewelry box, and I can't
say that with.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Confidence did he get that ring back?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
And I don't want to falsely accuse the robbers of
taking that he did not get it back. And I
could see why someone would want to keep an Air
Force ring because academy ring, because you could say you
went to the Air Force Academy and totally make up this, you.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Know, identity for yourself. What's that? Catch Me if you can?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
What's that You haven't seen that movie with Leonardo DiCaprio
and Tom Hanks.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
No, that is such a good movie.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Homework made me watch so many.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Movies for homework. You're in big p need to watch
Catch Me if you can.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I think it's based on a true story of this
guy that created all these identities for himself, and he
would work the professions like if here's a doctor, I
mean he had degrees and he would go and he
would practice.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
How would he know what to do?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
He's an expert con man, so much so that the FBI,
after they arrested him, they ended up hiring him to
help them learn how to catch people that were fraudulent.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Like help him get a plea deal.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yes, so yeah, again, that makes me think more so
that it was based on some true story. Yeah, but
it was. Yeah, back in the day. I think he
was a pilot too.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I don't know. He never went to it was. Yeah,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
It's been a minute since I Maybe I need to
give myself the homework and rewatch it so I remember
all the details. But I remember it being like a
really good movie. But someone could wear that Air Force
ring and go and act like they're a pilot and
people recognize that. And like anytime Ben had something nice
to go do, or he was going to be meeting people,
or he had an important something, he put on that
Air Force Academy ring because it was a conversation starter.
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And if you're kind of in that club, you're in,
and then anybody else that was in, maybe if they
were older, whatever, they'd recognize, oh you're in, and they
would talk to you. Can you order a new one
if you lose one? He did, Okay, he got a
new one that he wears. No, because that was a
long time ago. Yeah, you can't. I could order a
new Aggie ring too, but I'd rather I'd rather have
the excitement of someone doing the right thing and turning
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it in or finding it somewhere with a metal detector
down the line somewhere.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That'd be a cool story if they would want to
do that.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Which kind of makes me want to maybe just rent
a metal detector for fun one day.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Where would you go? I don't know. People do that
as a hobby.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
They go to the beach. Yeah, we don't have Maybe
when you go to Cancun, see if they have metal
detectors and see what you can find. Okay, you might
find something really crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Do y'all play the lottery when it gets really big? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Same we do on the show when it gets really big.
But it just made me think of just random ways
where people get really lucky. It seems like the lottery
has been so big lately all the time. It's like
every other day it's like, oh now it's up to
a billion.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
What would you do with the money?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And can you remain anonymous?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
It depends on the state you live in. I learned
that from Lunchbox.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Can you hear? Because I would not want people to
know in.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
The state of Tennessee. I do believe you have to
reveal your name. Why Well, when we were talking about
it on the show, they said, it's so that the
public can know that the prize was really paid out,
that it's it's a legit.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
So there's not many conspiracy theories of this is fake
and we're just paying for this and nobody really wins exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I feel like that's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
But if other states have figured out how to do
that and people know it's real, then like, let's just
do like, hey, send a quick email, Hey, how'd y'all.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Figure that out?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Let's we want to do this, like we want our
public to believe that we're really paying out lottery money,
because yeah, I wouldn't want people to know either. But
when it comes to what I would do, I feel like, well,
am I winning the billion? Because I would do everything.
You're getting like three hundred million dollars. What wouldn't I do?
I mean I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Well, would you take the lump some some or would
you have it paid out or were to take the
lump sum?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah? I think what if it smart thing to do?
What if we die? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
But I get if you want to take the payout,
maybe you end up getting more if you do the payout,
or you know, if you don't trust yourself to spend
it all or something. But I feel like I would
do a lot for my family, my friends, the orphanage
in Haiti, get an airplane, and even though Ben and
I are divorced.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
He'd fly it. He we'd share a plane.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Look, i'd want my kids. I'd travel with my kids.
I would do lots of things to share. A would
probably say get a lake house. Let's get a boat.
I would do that, and that'd be a fun thing
to go do with family and friends. And I would
just wouldn't airbm be it, which I get. That's what
I would have to do if I maybe bought one now,
to make sure that there's money coming in. But if
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that's the case, I'm this lakehouse, I'd share it with
people that I knew. Hey, make sure you're going to
the lake house this weekend. Here's the keys enjoy.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I don't know. I would want to share it all.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And then I'd go shopping as well for clothes in
my closet that.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I would wear.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But then also if my friends wanted to borrow it,
I would go to I'd finally buy my new agu ring.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
No, you would hire somebody like a detective to go
find it for you.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, but I don't. I don't know that it's findable.
We'll have to see. What would you do?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I think I would go on a lot of trips,
which probably doesn't surprise anybody.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
There's to keep working. I don't know. That actually is
a good question.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I think I would still work, but in a different
capacity where I were I don't have to do something
that I have to make money on, so I could
put more effort into things that aren't as what's the
word like fruitful financially.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
But I would still have to do some kind of work.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I don't Maybe you could be a volunteer therapist for
people and under privileged.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I think I might do something like that, or like
work with more communities that probably don't know. Yeah, I
would probably do that, but I wouldn't just like not
do anything. Probably wouldn't do as much work.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
I know, doing nothing as an appealing to me either,
although some work weeks I'm like, oh thin, the lottery
would be nice. But then also at the end of
the day, I get paid to talk. There's far more
intense jobs out there, obviously labor intensive and then more stressful,
but a job is a job still. I have responsibilities
(34:15):
that weigh on me at times, for sure, And I mean,
you get paid to do what you love and talk
to people and help them.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Is your job?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Do you feel the reward or sometimes when you see
growth in a client, or sometimes is it more not
frustrating but life sucking.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Because I feel like listening to people's.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Lives and heavy stuff and problems all day long would
really bring me down.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
But you're not a down person.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
You're an upperson, like you're a fun person, You're a hey,
let's go to Kane kum as person.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I think that's what makes my job so difficult for
me that it can be a different reason for another
therapist is because I'm so positive and upbeat and bright side.
I have to turn that down a little bit with
client because that can be very invalidating. But yes, sometimes
my job sucks the life out of me. But I
think that is not individual to being a therapist. I
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think that is any any job, and the reward I
do get mixed up for that. There are definitely days
where I'm like, oh, I don't feel like I have
it in me, and I have to do some work
to get there because it is hard, especially when you're
with a client. There are times when I just want
to be like, this is what you have to do,
and this is what I think, and this is the
right answer.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
But that's not helping anybody.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
So that's when I think it's the toughest, when I
realize that I am really powerless over other people's lives
and I'm just there to help guide them when they
really actually want the help.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Well, let me tell you, as a client standpoint, I
wish that my therapist would say this.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Is what you need to do, just this.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
That would be really helpful because sometimes I just want
her to tell me, but I know she's trying to
guide me.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
So whatever, it's fine, But then, like, what does that
lead you? That leads you need?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
At least we said the right thing, hopefully according to
an expert, Like, and that's what I want?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, but yes it is. It does feel.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Better when we do the hard work and we figure
it out ourselves.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
And just when somebody tells you to do something doesn't
mean you're gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Which means that I shall continue on my healing journey
and not go insane.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
You see Rat died there? Yeah, round it out? Full
circle moment, People, Full circle moment? Cat. Where can people
find you?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
On Instagram? At Cat dot defada and at You Need
Therapy podcast?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
And then make sure you listen to Kat's podcast You
Need Therapy. There's so many awesome episodes. Every Monday there's
an episode that goes up about different topics. I know
lately you've been touching on addiction, which a lot of
people have to deal with, whether it's themselves or a
loved one or a coworker or a friend. And then
on Wednesdays is Couch Talks, which is your bonus episode,
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which is sort of like what the Fifth Thing is
for me here, those are shorter.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
They're like ten fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I usually answer questions unless something pops up that I
need to talk about, like a couple weeks ago when
I did a whole episode on the Barbie moovie.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Right. Where do you get your questions?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
On Q? And a box on sometimes, but usually people
send them. They email me Katherine Att you need Therapy
podcast dot com.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Okay, So if you'll have a question for Kat and
you wanted to tell just tell you what to do
with your life, because then just.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Email it to Remobe.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
You'll address it in Couch Tucks and then y'all can
email me four Things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com.
You can send in questions also for Kat and I
hear at the Fifth Things. Sometimes we do straight up
Q and A episodes as well, or we read your emails.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
We love to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Love to know, yeah, what you have going on in
your life, what you're up to, what you would like
to know about, or if you just have something exciting
to share, or if you have a what what does
this make possible?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Moment?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
You know, like did you get to get great American
cookie coat? Because your cupcakes slammed it into the ground.
We're open, we want to hear it all. We want
to hear from you. I'm at Radio Amy on Instagram
and you can hit up Radioamy dot com if you
want links to like our four Things Gratitude journal or
Amazon favorites stuff anything like that, which Kat started doing
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some Amazon posts and she has a super cute white dress.
Do you have like a highlight reel on your Instagram
or where you keeping on?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Oh maybe I should do that.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
It's just and I have a link tree where you
click on the link in my bio, okay, and it
takes you to my Amazon page and it's under the
ath leisure.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
But that's my favorite article of clothing right now. Yes,
it is.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
This white looks like a tennis outfit and it is
so cute. I'm going to go to your all dimmer color,
I'm going to go to your link tree, and I'm
going to click on it because i want to get one.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
It's so cute.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
All right, Hope y'all are having the day that you
need to have.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Bye Bye,
Have you Tuesday, Welcome to the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Amy and I'm Cat And today's quote is so
debating if I should continue my healing journey or go insane.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Uh? TVD, TVD, what about you? I think I'm in
between both of them right now. I'm going back and forth.
Well as a therapist.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm sure that there's people that are on their way
to your office some days and they're like, so, should
I keep going to this or just, you know, let
myself completely go embrace the chaos. Embrace the chaos. Right now,
my mouth is very dry. I don't know why. I
think maybe it's because I switched toothpaste or something is
(00:45):
going on. And I need to listen to my body,
because you hear that if there's changes in your body
or anything like that, pay close attention and go to
the doctor. Right Sometimes people have these obscure first symptoms
but they didn't think anything of it, but it's abnormal,
and then weeks later they find out they're dying.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Are you trying to freak me out? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I'm not trying to freak you out. I'm just trying
to say, this is an abnormal thing. For my mouth,
and I don't know what caused it, and I looked
up things you can do to help with a dry
mouth because I keep having to like swallow, and it's
it's a lot of effort to swallow. Are like kind
of hat Yeah, it doesn't hurt, but it's like I
don't have enough gets stuck moisture.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
You can't finish swallowing exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And one of the things it says to avoid is caffeine,
And I'm like, okay, I'm here with my coffee as well,
and I'm not gonna stop drinking my coffee. But I
do need to probably figure this out because I don't
know if this is some weird symptom for something that's
going on in my body that I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Are you dehydrated? I don't think so. I shouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I've been drinking more water because of this, and it
hasn't changed.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Did you see my videos that I posted when I
was at the beach of my hand twitching?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Why did it? No? Sorry? What happened?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You really just clicked next as the video of her hand.
I noticed it last time I went to the beach.
I was reading on my kindle, and like my thumb
kept like moving and I couldn't stop it, and I
was like, oh, whatever, not a big deal. Well, then
I went to the beach again this couple weeks ago,
and it was happening again when I was reading, and
then it just kept happening. It looked like there was
a heartbeat in the palm of my hand. So I
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posted I thought I was having like a neurological disorder,
like the beginnings of Right, that's not normal. And my
mom was like, that's not normal, and she's supposed to
tell you that things are okay.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
But I was just dehydrated. Okay, so lecture. Yeah, so
maybe you just are thirsty because you need more.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, I've been thirsty before and I've been able to swallow.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
You know, Well, should you go to the doctor?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I We'll see TVD Last Thursday, I shared in the
Four Things episode my mammogram thing where I had to
go back for a second scan and then they said
after the scan, we want to do an ultrasound. We
need to get a better look. And those appointments terrify
me because I am very scared of getting cancer. So
(03:07):
I now know in life I can't put that stuff off.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I can't avoid it. I just need to face it
head on.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
But I'm sort of scared to go to the doctor
to figure why I have a dry mouth. Speaking of
when my mom had cancer, her mouth would get really dry.
I guess it was maybe from her chemo or radiation.
I can't remember exactly which one caused it, but she
had these things the hospital would give her. They were
almost like sponges, and you could dip them in water
(03:34):
and then just keep them in your mouth, and it
was very satisfying to her.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So maybe I need to get some of those.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Well maybe, But I don't think dry mouth is usually
the onset of cancer.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That sounds like, I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I don't know if it's cancer. It could be something else. Yeah, Okay,
let me see, is dry mouth the onset of disease.
A dry mouth is a symptom of an underlying problem,
rather than a condition itself.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
See, there you go, there's an under The underlying problem
could be dehydration.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
A number of things may cause a persistent dry mouth,
including prescription medications. Yeah, but I mean I've been on
the same I have not had a change. St correct
medical treatments and certain autoimmune diseases. Okay, treatment includes products
that help to moisten the.
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Speaker 1 (04:34):
I have these bracelets on here.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
They're the little Words Project bracelets. I've seen these around,
but I've never had one before. But the point is
you get them, and you wear a bunch of them,
and you give them away to people that need them.
And this last weekend I was at a radio seminar.
It's called Morning Show boot Camp. It's been going on
for decades and a lot of morning show people from
all over the country gather together different companies. I work
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for iHeart, but is there all the other ones? And
I was with two people that I really look up to.
They're a lot of fun. I don't get to spend
a lot of time with them. But one of them
is Carla Marie. She started off on the Elvis Drancho
in New York and then she moved to Washington with
her partner. They were just radio partners, like they really
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were co hosts on a podcast. And then iHeart gave
them their own morning show, and so they went to
do that. His name is Anthony, and then they announced
that they're dating, but everyone always thought they were dating
and they really were just friends and then they fell
in love. So I got to see Carla Marie and Anthony,
and she's one of the people that gave me a
bracelet that says keep Going and then it's got these
cute little beads around it and they all have words
of encouragement. And then Ricky Sanchez, who works in Nashville
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on the pop station the River, she gave me one
that says bloom and they say all different things and
then they get to choose which one they want to
give you or Carla Marie just came and put keep
Going on me, and then Ricky held out her arms
that I want you to have one of these, picked
the one that resonates with you, and I picked blue.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So are we supposed to because you give them away?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, they had them stacked up on their rest and
you keep them, you can, but the point is to
give them away. To give them away and then you
can replenish your stack if you want, or you maybe
meet somebody else that then gives you one, but there's
so many, and they look cute together. It doesn't look overwhelming.
It looks like, oh, they just styled all these bracelets together.
But it was started by this girl. I ended up
going to the website and she says here that after
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years of bullying, I started making bracelets in college for
myself and my sorority sisters. The wearable affirmations reminded us
of our worth and got us through the tough times together.
Ten years and millions of bracelets later, the Little Words
Project community is living proof that kindness is a superpower. Anyway,
I had never had one of these, nor had I
been to her website, but now I want to order
a stack so that I.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Can pass them out. Yeah, so you come in the pack,
not just one at a time. I don't know, I
haven't bought a yet. Maybe you can buy a pack.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I bet you can buy some singles outlooks here. Now
I'm looking, they have a pack singles and then also customized.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I was going to say, what if I want a
special saying.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, you could put whatever you wanted, like you could
put go insane.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Choose insanity. That says choose healing, Choose healing.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
And then the next one that says choose insanity and
you just pick one for the day.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
But I was thinking of.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Like bloom and the word bloom and blossoming and blooming
into your fullest potential or your highest version of yourself.
And I think through continuing the hard work or the therapy,
that is what we're always trying to do, and there's
never a there's never really an end. Allie Fallon sent
out a newsletter the other day that talked about a
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joke someone made to her after she said she'd been
in some form of therapy for the last fifteen years
and they're like, well, it doesn't really sound like it's working.
Have you been going that long? And she thought, well,
it's not really funny. I get the joke, I get
what you're trying to say, but I don't think there's
ever an end in it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And Ali was saying that same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And I think sometimes we want to know, Okay, when
am I going to be done with this part? Or
when am I going to be done with the work,
And so you as a therapist, cat like, what are
your thoughts on that? And encouragement to people that just
feel like they're on this journey and they're exhausted for me.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, I actually did on You Need Therapy, an episode
about the line between self development and self acceptance, and
it's such a complex idea and it started from this
podcast I listened to years ago. It was Tim Ferris
and Brene Brown, and Brene I think is the one
that said, like, how do you draw the line between
trying to be the best version of yourself and accepting
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who you are?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Which is when you think.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
When you hear that, you're like, yeah, how do I
keep trying to bloom? But also I have to at
some point say this is me and I have to
accept these parts of me.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And this is a personal belief.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So you can disagree with me, but I don't think
there's a way to have one without the other, because
if I am always striving to be the best version
of myself, I'm also pushing the parts of me that
are just intuitively me away and refusing to accept that.
And if I just say, well, this is me, this
is just how I'm going to be, then it becomes
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this almost like lasadaisical, like giving up crutch. Yeah, and
it doesn't even feel authentic. It's like, well, this is me,
and then you don't actually get to reach your full potential.
So to me, it's such a complex thought that makes
my brain do gymnastics. But I've come to the conclusion
that we're always going to be accepting ourselves and giving
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ourselves grace and allowing ourselves to be where we are
while knowing that we can move forward at the same time,
and that means therapy can last as long as you
want it to.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You don't always have to be in therapy for the
same things, right, and therapy could look different.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Sometimes it could be going to your therapist or an
actual person that you're talking to, and other times it
might be different forms. It could be that you're taking
more walks with nature, you're doing more journaling, you're doing
different types of theory. Maybe it's you try neuro feedback
for a little bit, or you do some brain spotting
and then you take a break and then you do
talk therapy. There's lots of different things, obviously.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Well, and sometimes my talk therapy, I'm going in there
and I'm talking about the things I'm proud of. So
it's not always I'm going in here to change something
about me. It's more about some days I'm going in
there to accept where I am and talk about the
place that I am and why I'm proud of that.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I started improv and I'm looking at is it as
a form of therapy? I started improv and I'm looking
at is it as a form of therapy. I did
even look at my calendar, and I had to because
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it's a three hour class every week for eight weeks,
and so I did pause my therapy because I just
thought this is going to be something that's good for me.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I'm going to laugh.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I'm exercising my brain and if I need to book
an emergency session for some reason, then I will. But
I had to move some things around. It doesn't mean
that you have to put all of these things on
your calendar at once, so you'll go insane.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Mm hmm, you'll choose insanity accidently. Wait did you start improv? Yeah?
What it was?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
It like?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It's so good. I love it.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
The first day we went over kind of the rules
of improv, and one of the rules that really stuck
with me that I love is yes and and so
I feel like sometimes you can be like no but
to people, or yes but to people, but they really
want you to look at everything that's being said as yes,
and you're excited about what the last person said, and
you piggyback on it with a yes, and you don't
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have to even actually say yes. And but it's like, okay, yes,
I like that, and let's take it here. And so
I really liked that even for just my everyday life
being more of a yes and with myself and coworkers.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
With my kids.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, think about how that helps compromising in relationships like
you are trying to understand each other instead of saying no,
but you don't get it. This is what's going to happen,
or no, I want to do this. It's yes, I
hear you. And let's think about this too. That is
a skill that can be used for everything.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes and well you know us comedians. We are you
a comedian now now? But it is at the comedy club.
It's at Third Coast Comedy on near Church Street.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Will you do a show? I don't think so, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
You can't miss more than two of the eight classes
or you won't graduate. And so then I don't know
what happens after I graduate, because I'm in level one.
Do I get to level two? And then maybe yeah,
do we put on a performance for our friends and family?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Not sure? Do you go on tour? We'll see.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm really
liking it, and I feel like it's tapping into other
parts of my brain. I don't think it's fully done
yet what I thought. I think I'm going to go
the full eight weeks, and who knows, Maybe I do
Level two and I go another eight weeks and then
you know, I see some fruit from that labor in
my brain. But certain parts of my creativity have felt
blocked for a long time, and this is a therapy
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that I'm using a tool to maybe tap into some
of that. And also just unplugging and recharging is a
big part of that too, and those are two different things.
Like unplugging is really disconnecting yourself from your work, and
then recharging is doing some sort of activity that fills
you up. Some people use them interchangeably, and so I've
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really been trying to focus on, Okay, I've completely detached
from work at this point, and now what can I
do that's gonna fill me back up? And like create
fun and then you're you are fun? You are fun?
You're always looking for fun. We know you have to
have fun on your calendar. So what do you have
fun coming up that you're looking forward to. Well, I've
booked a trip to kN Kuhn.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
What I feel like.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Last time we talked about, you're like, I made Patrick
randomly book a trip to New York for Christmas, a
trip to kN Kun for what.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I found a.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Really good deal where through a traveling but we originally
were going to go to can Kun for our friend's
birthday because they had a free place to stay. Well
that fell through, but I had it on my mind
that I was going to get together can Kune. So
I was like, I can make this work, just hold on.
So I spent like a week doing research. Found a
really great deal. We're going to like an all inclusive place,
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I guess for her birthday, but also just because I
need to have some extra fun.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So when is this coming? At the end of September,
the last week in September. Okay, so that fills the
September fun kelend.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, and then we'll have my Batcherette party, then we'll
have Thanksgiving, then it's my birthday then so I have
every month a couple of things to you.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Know, this is something that y'all need to know about Kat.
This is what she does, and I admire it.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I think it's great, and I will say there are
I am working on learning how to relax and be Yesterday,
we had plans and they got canceled, so we had
the whole day to just like do nothing.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
By we, you mean you and me and Patrick.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah, and he's fine, just like he's like, let's start
a new show to do this and whatever, and we
can just hang out at the house. And I'm like, well,
should we play a game or should we play a
different game? Should we try to make a meal? Should
we go out to eat? Should we go on a walk?
And he's like, oh my gosh. I think at like
four times I was like, probably more than four. Am
I annoying you yet? Because I struggle to just be still?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
But I have a tattooed on my arm?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Should you accept that part of you or work on
that part of both?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I think it's part of it is what makes me
me sometimes and part of it takes away from experiencing
things with other people. Like I could have had a
really calm, quiet day yesterday with Patrick and we had
a good day.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I eventually made him walk to go. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I saw you post on Instagram that y'all were playing games,
watching New Girl and drinking wine and it was two pm.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, So I said, okay, I'll watch a TV show
if you play a game of sequence with me. So
we did that like a game of sequence a TV show,
a game of sequence than a TV show.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And then I said, I can't do this anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Which, speaking of shows, have you seen hijack yet? I
don't think I can do it?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Well, I did it, and then I got on an airplane.
I don't Yeah, fine, does it not?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Well? I was only going Dallas to Nashville? Was it international?
So I felt like, this is not a long enough
flight to ask for demands. You know, if someone's gonna hijack,
it's not much you can do on a short flight,
but on a long flight overseas, I would probably be
a little more nervous.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But it's really good. I don't know. I like that.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
And well the summer it turned pretty are you watching that?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I tried to watch the second season and I just
could not get through it.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
The finale is this week. Yeah, I'm not probably gonna
I gave up.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Oh what are you not into teenagers falling in love
at the beach?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I just did.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
It wasn't stimulating me.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
But I watched Crowded Room and Silo recently, and those
shows were incredible.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I tried to watch Crowded Room per your suggestion, and
I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
You have to get through two episodes, Okay, I promise, Okay,
I believe you.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Okay, And then I did start Silo and I really
like that good. But I'm not done hijack. Hijacked the
Silo watching because I started that on my trip when
I went to Dallas, and I pretty much watched it
the whole time was gone. Because I was in a
hotel room. I watched shows while I'm getting ready. I
had to while I get dressed, while I do my makeup,
while I do my hair. When I blow dry my hair,
I put the subtitles on.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So that I can like just keep it going.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I could sit in silence for what like I feel
like you always had You're like me a little bit you.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
No, I don't always have fun things. I'm just saying,
if I want to watch something, that's how I get
it done. I have it on my computer and I
carry it around. I probably need to practice more of
laying on a couch once I get one and watching
it on my TV in my living room or something,
and not multitasking and not doing well, I'm doing laundry
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or folding laundry or and that's not because I'm this
super busy person. It's just that that's how I do anything.
I felt like I needed to clarify that because I
feel like it says like, oh, what, you don't have
time too good to sit down and watch TV. It's like,
well no, but especially now that my kids have started
school and there's homework and pickups and all the things.
Which did you know that I almost cried day one
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of school pickup?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, because we were on the phone.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Oh we were, and you hung up the phone on
me and then you had to call me back.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
It was so stressful and I thought I was going
to cry. And the next day I started and I
was like, well, this makes a lot of sense now
I know why I was so stressed out. Which I
got really stressed out when I was on the panel
at the boot camp. I was speaking and I looked
down and I wore my mom's charm bracelet. I wanted
to have her with me on stage, and it's her
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charm bracelet from the late sixties when she graduated high school.
It was one of her presents and it's so cool
and I love it. And I looked down and it
was not on my wrist and I'm in the middle
of my panel and I realized it and I start
freaking out.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And good thing.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I had put liners painting liners in my blazer jacket
because I was already nervous to go on stage. But
at that point I just started really sweating and I
was like, Okay, which pro tip you can do that.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I'd never done that before.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Some people are like, oh, yeah, I've been doing that
for years, and other people like mind blown, never heard
of that before. It was just a last minute thing
that I thought of when I was walking out the
door of my hotel room and I thought, huh, so
I took my blazer on.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I added in real quick, and I was like, oh,
this is going to be good because.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It won't ruin my blazer that has to get dry
cleaned and I don't want to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
So that's what you can do.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And then people sent me links to these actual underarmed
patches that they sell on Amazon, and you can buy
them and put them in and they're they're a little
bit thicker and wider because I had to double up.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I had to do like two on each side. But
I'm sure people know they sell those.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
If you don't know, you can google it on Amazon
and you can get them in case. That's the thing,
like if for people said they love wearing them with
their sweaters because they don't always want to wash a sweater.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
That's so smart, I know. So anyway, what happened to
the bracelet?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I'm on stage and I'm sweating, freaking out, and I've
got to focus because i have to speak, but all
I can think about is how I've lost my mom's bracelet.
And then I took a few deep breaths, but not
deep enough to the obvious to the audience.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
And I'm looking at Elizabeth Fozzio, who we work with.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
She's in the audience, and I'm looking at her and
I'm pointing to my arm, like my bracelet, and she's
like what, I'm like, my bracelet. And then I'm like, okay,
I just have to worry about this later. My hotel
room was in the same hotel as the conference, so
all I had to do was go downstairs to the
conference room. So we're good, I have not left this building.
The bracelet is going to be here. I will find it.
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And then after I got off stage, I immediately started saying, hey,
lost my bracelet, and this one woman goes, oh, bracelet,
We had one turned in. After I got off stage,
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I immediately started saying, hey, lost my bracelet, and this
one woman goes, oh, bracelet, We had one turned in.
And then she goes and gets it and brings it
to me, and I was like, that's it, thank you.
Hundreds and hundreds of people are at this conference, and
the person that turned it in was my friend Carla Marie.
That happened to give me this keep going words bracelet.
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Oh my god, Because later I had it on and
carl Marie came up. She goes, oh, my gosh, that's
the bracelet I found earlier. And I said, thank you
so much for finding it and turning it in. What
are the odds that someone I know that I'm friends
with found it.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And didn't know it was yours too? Yeah, that's crazy,
And like I think that sometimes people surprise you more
than not. You think you lost something and somebody's going
to keep it or sell it or whatever. There are
so many good people that will find them in the
ground and turn it in and hopefully you then have
the idea to go ask for it.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I want to believe the best in people, except for
the person that was in front of me that slammed
on their brakes. Then I had a slam on my
brakes and it caused the cupcakes that I had just
picked up for Stevenson's birthday party. I put two on
the floorboard, and I don't know why I set one
on the back seat. I should have put it on
the floorboard because then it would have been fine. But
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when I slammed on the brakes, it flew from the
top of the back seat onto the floorboard and that
whole that box a dozen got ruined and I needed
each box.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So I thought, well, what am I gonna.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Do now because I'm not near a grocery store, And
then I passed a Great American Cookie Company, so I
pulled in there.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
What does this make possible? I got a.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Great American Cookie Company cookie slices because they didn't have
time to make me a cake. But I bought a
bunch of slices and some cookies and that was the replacement.
The only problem is that was the more popular thing
other than the cupcakes.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I was gonna say, people probably will want then you
have a variety. So it's a good thing that happened.
But then you didn't have enough cookies for everybody. I'm
sure you can't have the cookie to have a cupcake. Well,
I broke the.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Cookies into pieces, so I was like, you can have
a piece of this.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Cookie and then one whole cup and a cupcake. Enjoy.
Thank you. So that's what I had to do there.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
But when it comes back to the goodness of people,
the person that slam on the brakes, I don't even
know why I feel bad. It's happened to me before, whatever,
But the person behind me was acting like it was
me that had a slam on my brakes, and they
start honking and then they do this and they go
around me like they're all angry, and they look at
me like I'm an idiot, and I'm like, WHOA, I
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reacted quickly and probably safe foodful, and now you're mad
at me. I didn't get mad at the person that
had a slam. We who know? Was there a cat?
Was there a baby bird? Was the turtle a turtle? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Which that's what we saw for Stevens's birthday as the
new Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It's so good. Is it a cartoon? Yeah, it's a cartoon,
but it's good. I mean, especially if you have kids.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It's one where adults could sit through it and you
would like it to still have a good time, especially
because I grew up watching teenage mutant Ninja Turtles. But
I really enjoyed it. Anyway, that person did not have
grace for the situation and they were not giving out
good energy.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
They probably would not return. They'd keep the bracelet a
bracelet if they found it. Maybe they were having a
mad day.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You're right, I need to have grace for the person
that didn't have grace. You're right, good point. Which I
was determined to find that bracelet anyway, kind of like
I was determined to find one time I lost my
wedding band in North Carolina in the snow, and I
got a metal detector when I got back in the
spring and I found it. And the reason why I
was gone a season was because Ben at the time
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he was in the Air Force and he was in Afghanistan,
and so my mom flew to North Carolina to drive
home with me because I wanted to go work from
the Bobby Bone Troe studio in Austin and live with
her for the two two and a half months that
bin was gone. And then when I went back in
the spring, so I left in January, came back in March.
The snow had melted and I still couldn't find the ring.
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So I went and I rented a metal detector, and
I found it. Where was it between my house and
my garage? I had a detached garage. I knew I
had dropped it there, but then we couldn't find it,
and we had to get on the road and we
were trying to leave at five am, so it was
dark out, and so if we delayed till it was
light out, it just would have delayed our whole trip.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Did you find anything else with the metal detector?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
No? I wish that would have been awesome, but I didn't.
But hey, keep going, don't give up. That's my other
bracelet that just keep going, just keep swimming, don't give up,
even if it's been forever, and my Aggie ring is missing.
That's been missing for over a decade. But I know
that will turn up eventually. We hear stories all the
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time of class rings that are found. How will they
maybe years later? My name is engraved on the inside
and it's Texas A and M class of O three.
It's cold with teeny tiny diamond. That's how you know
it's me. But it's not Amy Brown. I think it
says Amy E. Moffatt's name Elizabeth.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I don't think I knew that what yours? Mary? I
knew that Catherine Mary Defata.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
So the ring, if anybody finds it, make sure you
get that back to me.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
And that and my last note.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I'm keeping my last name Brown because it's professionally speaking.
That wasn't even really a conversation between me and Ben.
I mean maybe for a minute during the divorce, but
then as for my actual the wedding bands and the
wedding ring, my engagement diamond, what do I do with that?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's yours?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I know, Ben and I have never even talked about
it. It hasn't come up. And I was packing jewelry for
the trip to Dallas, and I opened up my jewelry
box and I saw it, and it made me think
about it, like what do I do with this? Do
I hold on to it? And I don't know, could
Stashira use it one day or Stevenson?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Potentially you can.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Give it to them and they can even they can
even make another piece of jewelry out of it, doesn't
have to remain a ring.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So when my mom died, her wedding band which she
got divorced years before, she passed away, but she kept
the ring my dad had given her, and it was
this thick gold band with a diamond on top, and
we took it to a jeweler after she passed away,
and my sister took the diamond and I took the
thick gold band. Anytime you see me wearing that gold band,
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that was her wedding band and we separated the diamonds.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
You could also do something like that. I don't know. Yeah,
And you don't have to decide right now. I know.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I just saw it, and then we were talking about
rings and made me think, hmm, what do I do?
And then I wonder if my Aggie ring is at
a pawn shop And I was like, well, if I
ever got desperate, I could take my diamond to a
pawn chop or a jewelry store probably.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
But who would want somebody's old class ring.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I don't know. Maybe they melt down the gold, Oh
it's real gold. Or maybe if they're applying for a
job and they wanted to say they went to a
certain school and they didn't.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I can prove to you that I went there.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Half the ring they hit up pond chops and then
they create this whole degree for themselves, and how they
went to the certain university. Because Bin's air force ring
was stolen at the same time and he never got
his back. See, the thing is, I don't know if
my ring was lost or stolen. Our house did get robbed,
and I can't remember if it was in the jewelry
(27:59):
by or if I lost it in that timeframe. But
all of a sudden it got me thinking, where's my
ague ring? I haven't seen it, so either I did
misplace it and lose it, or the robbers took that
as well. The thing is, Ben knew that his air
Force ring was in the jewelry box, and I can't
say that with.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Confidence did he get that ring back?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
And I don't want to falsely accuse the robbers of
taking that he did not get it back. And I
could see why someone would want to keep an Air
Force ring because academy ring, because you could say you
went to the Air Force Academy and totally make up this, you.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Know, identity for yourself. What's that? Catch Me if you can?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
What's that You haven't seen that movie with Leonardo DiCaprio
and Tom Hanks.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
No, that is such a good movie.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Homework made me watch so many.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Movies for homework. You're in big p need to watch
Catch Me if you can.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I think it's based on a true story of this
guy that created all these identities for himself, and he
would work the professions like if here's a doctor, I
mean he had degrees and he would go and he
would practice.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
How would he know what to do?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
He's an expert con man, so much so that the FBI,
after they arrested him, they ended up hiring him to
help them learn how to catch people that were fraudulent.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Like help him get a plea deal.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yes, so yeah, again, that makes me think more so
that it was based on some true story. Yeah, but
it was. Yeah, back in the day. I think he
was a pilot too.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I don't know. He never went to it was. Yeah,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
It's been a minute since I Maybe I need to
give myself the homework and rewatch it so I remember
all the details. But I remember it being like a
really good movie. But someone could wear that Air Force
ring and go and act like they're a pilot and
people recognize that. And like anytime Ben had something nice
to go do, or he was going to be meeting people,
or he had an important something, he put on that
Air Force Academy ring because it was a conversation starter.
(29:52):
And if you're kind of in that club, you're in,
and then anybody else that was in, maybe if they
were older, whatever, they'd recognize, oh you're in, and they
would talk to you. Can you order a new one
if you lose one? He did, Okay, he got a
new one that he wears. No, because that was a
long time ago. Yeah, you can't. I could order a
new Aggie ring too, but I'd rather I'd rather have
the excitement of someone doing the right thing and turning
(30:14):
it in or finding it somewhere with a metal detector
down the line somewhere.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That'd be a cool story if they would want to
do that.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Which kind of makes me want to maybe just rent
a metal detector for fun one day.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Where would you go? I don't know. People do that
as a hobby.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
They go to the beach. Yeah, we don't have Maybe
when you go to Cancun, see if they have metal
detectors and see what you can find. Okay, you might
find something really crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Do y'all play the lottery when it gets really big? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Same we do on the show when it gets really big.
But it just made me think of just random ways
where people get really lucky. It seems like the lottery
has been so big lately all the time. It's like
every other day it's like, oh now it's up to
a billion.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
What would you do with the money?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And can you remain anonymous?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
It depends on the state you live in. I learned
that from Lunchbox.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Can you hear? Because I would not want people to
know in.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
The state of Tennessee. I do believe you have to
reveal your name. Why Well, when we were talking about
it on the show, they said, it's so that the
public can know that the prize was really paid out,
that it's it's a legit.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
So there's not many conspiracy theories of this is fake
and we're just paying for this and nobody really wins exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I feel like that's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
But if other states have figured out how to do
that and people know it's real, then like, let's just
do like, hey, send a quick email, Hey, how'd y'all.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Figure that out?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Let's we want to do this, like we want our
public to believe that we're really paying out lottery money,
because yeah, I wouldn't want people to know either. But
when it comes to what I would do, I feel like, well,
am I winning the billion? Because I would do everything.
You're getting like three hundred million dollars. What wouldn't I do?
I mean I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Well, would you take the lump some some or would
you have it paid out or were to take the
lump sum?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah? I think what if it smart thing to do?
What if we die? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
But I get if you want to take the payout,
maybe you end up getting more if you do the payout,
or you know, if you don't trust yourself to spend
it all or something. But I feel like I would
do a lot for my family, my friends, the orphanage
in Haiti, get an airplane, and even though Ben and
I are divorced.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
He'd fly it. He we'd share a plane.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Look, i'd want my kids. I'd travel with my kids.
I would do lots of things to share. A would
probably say get a lake house. Let's get a boat.
I would do that, and that'd be a fun thing
to go do with family and friends. And I would
just wouldn't airbm be it, which I get. That's what
I would have to do if I maybe bought one now,
to make sure that there's money coming in. But if
(32:41):
that's the case, I'm this lakehouse, I'd share it with
people that I knew. Hey, make sure you're going to
the lake house this weekend. Here's the keys enjoy.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I don't know. I would want to share it all.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And then I'd go shopping as well for clothes in
my closet that.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I would wear.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But then also if my friends wanted to borrow it,
I would go to I'd finally buy my new agu ring.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
No, you would hire somebody like a detective to go
find it for you.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, but I don't. I don't know that it's findable.
We'll have to see. What would you do?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I think I would go on a lot of trips,
which probably doesn't surprise anybody.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
There's to keep working. I don't know. That actually is
a good question.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I think I would still work, but in a different
capacity where I were I don't have to do something
that I have to make money on, so I could
put more effort into things that aren't as what's the
word like fruitful financially.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
But I would still have to do some kind of work.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I don't Maybe you could be a volunteer therapist for
people and under privileged.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I think I might do something like that, or like
work with more communities that probably don't know. Yeah, I
would probably do that, but I wouldn't just like not
do anything. Probably wouldn't do as much work.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
I know, doing nothing as an appealing to me either,
although some work weeks I'm like, oh thin, the lottery
would be nice. But then also at the end of
the day, I get paid to talk. There's far more
intense jobs out there, obviously labor intensive and then more stressful,
but a job is a job still. I have responsibilities
(34:15):
that weigh on me at times, for sure, And I mean,
you get paid to do what you love and talk
to people and help them.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Is your job?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Do you feel the reward or sometimes when you see
growth in a client, or sometimes is it more not
frustrating but life sucking.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Because I feel like listening to people's.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Lives and heavy stuff and problems all day long would
really bring me down.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
But you're not a down person.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
You're an upperson, like you're a fun person, You're a hey,
let's go to Kane kum as person.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I think that's what makes my job so difficult for
me that it can be a different reason for another
therapist is because I'm so positive and upbeat and bright side.
I have to turn that down a little bit with
client because that can be very invalidating. But yes, sometimes
my job sucks the life out of me. But I
think that is not individual to being a therapist. I
(35:09):
think that is any any job, and the reward I
do get mixed up for that. There are definitely days
where I'm like, oh, I don't feel like I have
it in me, and I have to do some work
to get there because it is hard, especially when you're
with a client. There are times when I just want
to be like, this is what you have to do,
and this is what I think, and this is the
right answer.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
But that's not helping anybody.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
So that's when I think it's the toughest, when I
realize that I am really powerless over other people's lives
and I'm just there to help guide them when they
really actually want the help.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Well, let me tell you, as a client standpoint, I
wish that my therapist would say this.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Is what you need to do, just this.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
That would be really helpful because sometimes I just want
her to tell me, but I know she's trying to
guide me.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
So whatever, it's fine, But then, like, what does that
lead you? That leads you need?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
At least we said the right thing, hopefully according to
an expert, Like, and that's what I want?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, but yes it is. It does feel.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Better when we do the hard work and we figure
it out ourselves.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
And just when somebody tells you to do something doesn't
mean you're gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Which means that I shall continue on my healing journey
and not go insane.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
You see Rat died there? Yeah, round it out? Full
circle moment, People, Full circle moment? Cat. Where can people
find you?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
On Instagram? At Cat dot defada and at You Need
Therapy podcast?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
And then make sure you listen to Kat's podcast You
Need Therapy. There's so many awesome episodes. Every Monday there's
an episode that goes up about different topics. I know
lately you've been touching on addiction, which a lot of
people have to deal with, whether it's themselves or a
loved one or a coworker or a friend. And then
on Wednesdays is Couch Talks, which is your bonus episode,
(36:50):
which is sort of like what the Fifth Thing is
for me here, those are shorter.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
They're like ten fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I usually answer questions unless something pops up that I
need to talk about, like a couple weeks ago when
I did a whole episode on the Barbie moovie.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Right. Where do you get your questions?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
On Q? And a box on sometimes, but usually people
send them. They email me Katherine Att you need Therapy
podcast dot com.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Okay, So if you'll have a question for Kat and
you wanted to tell just tell you what to do
with your life, because then just.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Email it to Remobe.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
You'll address it in Couch Tucks and then y'all can
email me four Things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com.
You can send in questions also for Kat and I
hear at the Fifth Things. Sometimes we do straight up
Q and A episodes as well, or we read your emails.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
We love to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Love to know, yeah, what you have going on in
your life, what you're up to, what you would like
to know about, or if you just have something exciting
to share, or if you have a what what does
this make possible?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Moment?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
You know, like did you get to get great American
cookie coat? Because your cupcakes slammed it into the ground.
We're open, we want to hear it all. We want
to hear from you. I'm at Radio Amy on Instagram
and you can hit up Radioamy dot com if you
want links to like our four Things Gratitude journal or
Amazon favorites stuff anything like that, which Kat started doing
(38:02):
some Amazon posts and she has a super cute white dress.
Do you have like a highlight reel on your Instagram
or where you keeping on?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Oh maybe I should do that.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
It's just and I have a link tree where you
click on the link in my bio, okay, and it
takes you to my Amazon page and it's under the
ath leisure.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
But that's my favorite article of clothing right now. Yes,
it is.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
This white looks like a tennis outfit and it is
so cute. I'm going to go to your all dimmer color,
I'm going to go to your link tree, and I'm
going to click on it because i want to get one.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
It's so cute.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
All right, Hope y'all are having the day that you
need to have.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Bye Bye,
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