April 2, 2022 • 17 mins
If you struggle with feelings of shame around your eating disorder, you are not alone and that's the point that Amy drives home in this episode! She started off by sharing an encouraging email from a listener named Sarah (who kindly reminded us that we have the power to tune out "disordered talk" so that we don't end up engaging in toxic behaviors that we're exposed to). Amy also shared a blog post from one of our favorite eating disorder therapists, Jennifer Rollin, that gives a handful of compassionate responses to eating disorder thoughts that we might be having. Amy had a lot of shame around her binge/purge behaviors for many years, but now she knows that the more we speak up about eating disorders, the more we can start to eliminate the shame and stigma. Amy wrapped things up by suggesting Episode 95 of the Brain Over Binge Podcast (Creating Motivation to Stop Binge Eating) if you're frustrated that you haven't been able to fully stop binge eating (a place that Amy was in for several months when she first started her recovery journey!)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I won't let my body out me outwait everything that
I'm made dope, won't spend my life trying to change.
I'm learning to love who I am. I get I'm strong,
I feel free, I know who every part of me
it's beautiful. And then hello always out wait if you
(00:24):
feel it with your hands, and there she'll love to
the boom by the let's say good day and time
did you and die out? Happy Saturday. Outweigh fam Amy
here and it's just gonna be me solo for this episode.
I'm going to start off with an email that Lisa
and I got, though you can always email us. We
(00:46):
love hearing from you. Hello, Outweigh podcast dot com and
a fellow listener, so just like you listening right now,
Sarah sent this in and I thought, I want to
read this email on the podcast as encouragement for others listening.
And Sarah is the reason why we do this podcast.
You listening right now, that is why we do this.
(01:07):
I assume maybe you're taking in our episodes, hopefully over
the weekend if you need it, or maybe one day
during the week when you're on a walk. But it's
just that one sliver of encouragement throughout the week. Hopefully
you have multiple slivers of encouragement happening and coming from
different resources and places and people. But Outweigh, like our hope.
(01:27):
Lisa and I both just want you to at least
have that. If you don't have those others, you at
least have Outweigh that you can count on for. You know,
fifty minutes of something that is going to make you
not feel alone is going to give you that extra
bost of encouragement that you need to keep going because
I know firsthand that living with an eating disorder or
(01:48):
any disordered eating behaviors that alter your life, it's exhausting
and it can feel lonely and there's a lot of shame.
So we're gonna get into some of that today. But
like I said, we're going to start off with an
email from Sarah. She said, Hey, I just wanted to
thank you for this podcast and being a safe place
for people like myself who are recovering from disordered eating.
(02:10):
Throughout the pandemic and the last few years, I unknowingly
developed many disordered eating habits and it started to significantly
impact my physical health. I've been listening since the beginning
and I've learned that this is my absolute safe space
to listen, knowing that you won't allow negative body talk,
suggestive behaviors that could be harmful to those in recovery,
(02:33):
and overall a healthy way to respect and learn about
our bodies. I noticed the impact when I listened to
an episode of another podcast yesterday and could start picking
up disordered discussion. Because of your podcast, I knew it
wasn't healthy to continue to listen, so I skipped that
episode altogether. Prior to outweigh I probably would have continued
(02:55):
listening to pick up on tips and further connect that
eating disorder behavior. I'm so so thankful for the work
that you'll do your friend Sarah, which Sarah, thank you
for sharing that. And that's what we want this to
be again, A safe place, your encouragement, a place where
you're not going to feel any judgment, a place where
(03:15):
hopefully you won't get triggered. I say that because sometimes
I'm not always perfect and I might say something that
might throw someone. That's why I don't ever do episodes alone.
Lisa and I weren't able to connect this week, so
here we are. It is just me and I don't
consider myself to be an expert in any way, shape
or form, And I'm going to be sharing things today
(03:36):
that are from experts that we know and trust and
hopefully will yes be that sliver of encouragement that you
need as you go into this weekend, this week ahead.
And I just want to, you know, make sure you'll
know that if if you're new to the podcast, I'm
not the expert. Lisa is the registered dietitian that has
(03:56):
an emphasis in eating disorders and it's her passion and
she is just very wise and knowledgeable when it comes
to this field. And we have Cat de Fata on
at times, he's a licensed therapist. We have other experts
that come and bring their amazing wealth of knowledge to
us where I feel safe talking with them because I
know that if I say anything triggering, they're gonna they're
(04:17):
gonna call me out. Because I host Four Things with
Amy Brown, and that's a podcast I've done for a
few years now, way longer than Outweigh, And there is
a time in my career where I have said things
either on the podcast or on the Bobby Bones Show
that have been triggering and toxic and I didn't realize
I was spreading disordered topics or encouraging people to engage
(04:40):
in disordered behavior, having disordered discussion kind of like Sarah
said in the email, she was listening to an episode
of another podcast and immediately she could start picking up
on the disordered talk and she was able to shut
it down. Like Taylor Swift said in her documentary or
little movie thing that she put out, she sometimes has
to change the channel. And that's literally what Sarah did
(05:03):
with that podcast is she skipped that episode altogether. She
was able to shut it down. She changed the channel
before it got into her little head or big head
I guess I should say, and started to impact her
day because I used to do that. I would pick
up on things from other people, but then I was
the person also delivering the things for people to pick
up on. And I don't like that that's part of
(05:25):
my past. But also I'm thankful for it, because I'm
thankful for how I've evolved and that there's been growth
and that I have proof of that and that we're
allowed to change and again evolve. If you're not evolving,
you're dead. I had some girlfriends over a couple of
weeks ago for my birthday, and that was like our
theme of the night, and we were talking about ways
where we've grown, and then we would all like say
(05:47):
together out loud, if you're not evolving, you're dead. So
I just want to give you that quote as well.
And everybody evolves in their own time, eating disorder recovery
or disordered behavior recovery. It takes a lot of work,
and you are on your own timeline, So don't feel shame.
And if you're not where I am now in what
(06:07):
I consider to be full recovery. But honestly, I still
have thoughts in my brain like I don't know will
I ever be back in the throes of this. I
don't know. I hope not. And I'm thankful for the
tools that I have in my toolbox that will hopefully
keep me where I am and I can continue to
be an encouragement to each of you and be that
that story of hope. Because I never thought I would
(06:28):
be this person. I just thought this was going to
be something that I had to live with the rest
of my life. And it was daunting and tiring and
exhausting and frustrating and sad and depressing and all the things.
It was low On the outside, people probably saw me
as high, but in my personal private moments at home,
it was very very very low and so many feelings
(06:50):
of shame. Which leads me to the next thing that
I'm going to share with you, which is from one
of my favorites, Jennifer Rowland. We've had her on the
podcast multiple times, we talk about her all the time.
I follow on Instagram. She is just awesome. Now. She
is an eating disorder therapist, and she put up a
blog post called Eating Disorders and Feelings of Shame, and
(07:12):
I'm just gonna read it. Like I said, we don't
have an expert on as a guest today, but I'm
going to bring the expert to you. And as you're walking,
I want you to take in these words. If you're walking,
or as you're sitting, or you're running errands, or you're
doing things at your house, however you listen to podcasts.
I just listen to so many podcasts while I walk
that I picture you listening out there right now walking.
(07:33):
But you don't even have to be moving while you
listen to this at all if you do not feel
like doing that at all. But for me, that's something
I like to do when I listen to podcasts. So
this blog is called Eating Disorders and Feelings of Shame.
I shouldn't feel so anxious around food. This shouldn't be
so hard. It's my fault that I developed an eating disorder.
(07:56):
I'm just such a shallow person. I often see clients
struggling with feelings of shame around their eating disorders, thoughts,
or behaviors. I've also had clients who express feeling like
it was some of their own choices which led them
to develop a neating disorder. The reality is that I've
never seen anyone successfully shame themselves into recovery from an
(08:17):
eating disorder. Shame actually can cause people to be dishonest, disconnected,
and not reach out for support when they need it.
The antidote to shame is having the courage to be vulnerable.
It's having the strength to reach out to someone and say, actually,
I'm not okay. It's also important to practice self compassion,
especially when self critical or shame based thoughts start to
(08:41):
come up. The following is an example of how you
can start to respond to your eating disorder thoughts with
more compassionate ones. It can be helpful to picture how
you might respond to a friend or a loved one
who was struggling. Eating disorder thought, I shouldn't feel so
anxious around food. Compassionate response. It's perfectly understandable that I'm
(09:03):
feeling anxious around food. I'm in recovery from an eating disorder,
and this is how my manifests. How can I take
the next pro recovery action anyways, Eating disorder thought, this
shouldn't be so hard. Compassionate response. If recovery were easy,
that my therapist and dietitian wouldn't have jobs. Recovery is
(09:24):
definitely tough, but it will get easier with time and practice.
Eating disorder thought, it's my fault that I developed a
needing disorder. Compassionate response. No one would choose to develop
in eating disorder. They're miserable, the same way that no
one would choose to have cancer. However, recovery is a
choice that I can keep making in each moment. Eating
(09:47):
disorder thought, I'm such a shallow person. Compassionate response. If
I were truly shallow, I wouldn't feel so distressed about
the fact that I'm fixating on weight. I'm not hello,
I'm someone who is in recovery from an eating disorder.
It's perfectly understandable that I'm going to have a tough
time with body image as this is one of my symptoms.
(10:09):
What can I do to be kind to myself right now?
Eating disorder thought, I'm not even sick enough to have
an eating disorder. Compassionate response. It doesn't matter what someone weighs,
whether they have normal labs or medical complications, or how
often they use behaviors. Everyone who is struggling with an
unhealthy relationship to food and their body is sick enough
(10:33):
and deserves to get treatment. It's not your fault that
you developed an eating disorder. Eating disorders or mental illnesses
that are caused by a combination of biopsychosocial factors. They
are not choices. You are not weak or a bad
person for struggling. You are someone who is doing the
best that you can right now with the coping strategies
(10:54):
that you have. Reaching out for help when you are
struggling is true courage. It takes incredible to say, actually,
I'm not okay and I need support. If you're struggling
with feelings of shame around your eating disorder, you are
not alone. The more that we can speak up about
eating disorders, the more we can start to shatter the
shame and stigma again. That's from Jennifer Rawlin. It's a
(11:19):
blog post that she put up on her website that's
called a Disorders and Feelings of Shame. So if any
of those feelings of shame resonate with you, then make
sure you give yourself the compassionate response. You might need
to rewind and listen to some of those, or go
to Jennifer Rowlin dot com r O L L I
N to get this blog so you can print it out,
(11:42):
keep it with you, type it into your phone, copy
and paste it. Put it wherever you can see those
compassionate responses, so that way you have a way to
combat the feelings of shame again, stuff like I shouldn't
feel so anxious around food. This shouldn't be so hard.
It's my fault that I developed an eating disorder. I'm
just such a shallow person. Those are feelings that can
(12:05):
be natural. Shame is normal. There's nothing wrong with you. However,
it's what you do with it. After you have the
thought and you have a person right here, shout out
Jennifer that has given you a compassionate response to yourself
that will help you change the channel that will help
you shut it down. Now. I had again so much
(12:25):
shame with my eating disort of I said it earlier,
like there you just it's very lonely. I would binge
and purge. I felt like, oh, why couldn't I just
not eat instead of being the person that eats so
much and then chooses to, you know, get rid of
it and purge it in a way, which purging you know,
might have been an actual like purge type situation, or
(12:46):
it might have been going to the gym for hours
on end to try to burn all of the calories.
So for me, oh, the weight of shame with the binging,
I just felt like I had nobody to talk to
For some reason. I felt like if I just didn't
eat at all, that would be easier to talk to
someone about, because you know, society understood that better. But
(13:07):
the more and more people are talking about binging, the
less shame I feel about it, and it feels more
normal for me to talk about it. So that being said,
I want to share a newsletter that I got from
Katherine Hansen. She was a major part of my recovery.
I've never met herror, but I hope that one day
I get to tell her thank you for her book
Brain over Binge, and for her podcast, Brain over Binge,
(13:30):
and for her newsletters that are all about Brain over Binge.
And I feel like since I felt so much shame
around the binging that I did, and I had nobody
to talk to, and I felt hopeless at times, and
it was so hard to give up the binges and
rewire my brain, and I'm thankful that Katherine was part
(13:52):
of walking me through that, along with Lisa's fork, the
Noise program and other tools that I got from other
therapy that I have been doing. But I want to
read a newsletter that Catherine sent out. Hopefully it'll be
encouragement to y'all and maybe you'll want to go listen
to an episode that could help you out if you
happen to be someone that is struggling with binging right now,
(14:14):
so Katherine wrote, you may feel frustrated that you've reduced
your binge eating but haven't fully eliminated it from your life.
So instead of celebrating your progress and making more improvements
until the binge eating is gone, you may tell yourself
that improvement is not good enough and that you might
as well go back to binging more. It's okay to
acknowledge that you want binge eating fully gone. Of course
(14:37):
you do because it creates pain in your life. However,
less binge eating means less pain in your life, and
that's a step in the right direction. Going from binge
eating daily, for example, to binge eating once per week
leads to so much extra time, energy, money, and peace
of mind. Do not let a transition period of less
(14:59):
freak Went episodes make you want to return to full
scale binging. Instead, allow your experience of additional freedom make
you even more motivated to fully recover. For more motivation,
listen to episode Creating Motivation to Stop binge eating. Okay, Amy,
(15:19):
here that was the end of Catherine's little short newsletter,
But episode of the Brain over Binge podcast is where
you can find creating motivation to stop binge eating. And
I just felt like somebody out there needs to hear that.
And I wish I had had Catherine in my life
or a podcast like that to listen to ten, fifteen,
(15:41):
twenty years ago, but I didn't. And here we are,
and slowly but surely again, I'm in what I like
to consider my recovery, and my hope is that you
will all get there too if that's what you need,
or you'll be able to stay there, or you'll feel
like you have the support, or you'll find the friends
that you can talk to about it the right community
(16:01):
for you. In the meantime, Lisa and I we want
to be that community for you every Saturday Throughoutweigh and
again we do love hearing from you. Thanks again to
Sarah who sent that nice email that I read at
the beginning of this podcast, and we appreciate it so much.
It gives us the encouragement to to just keep going
and keep putting out content, and keep putting out episodes
(16:23):
and keep sharing because you know, one by one it
is making a difference. And I just want each and
every one of you listening today to know you are
not alone, and if you need support, I hope that
you will find a way to ask for it. There
is no shame in what you're going through at all whatsoever.
(16:44):
If you want to reach out to us again, the
email is Hello Outweigh podcast dot com and I hope
you'll have a great rest of your day and we'll
see again next Saturday.
I won't let my body out me outwait everything that
I'm made dope, won't spend my life trying to change.
I'm learning to love who I am. I get I'm strong,
I feel free, I know who every part of me
it's beautiful. And then hello always out wait if you
(00:24):
feel it with your hands, and there she'll love to
the boom by the let's say good day and time
did you and die out? Happy Saturday. Outweigh fam Amy
here and it's just gonna be me solo for this episode.
I'm going to start off with an email that Lisa
and I got, though you can always email us. We
(00:46):
love hearing from you. Hello, Outweigh podcast dot com and
a fellow listener, so just like you listening right now,
Sarah sent this in and I thought, I want to
read this email on the podcast as encouragement for others listening.
And Sarah is the reason why we do this podcast.
You listening right now, that is why we do this.
(01:07):
I assume maybe you're taking in our episodes, hopefully over
the weekend if you need it, or maybe one day
during the week when you're on a walk. But it's
just that one sliver of encouragement throughout the week. Hopefully
you have multiple slivers of encouragement happening and coming from
different resources and places and people. But Outweigh, like our hope.
(01:27):
Lisa and I both just want you to at least
have that. If you don't have those others, you at
least have Outweigh that you can count on for. You know,
fifty minutes of something that is going to make you
not feel alone is going to give you that extra
bost of encouragement that you need to keep going because
I know firsthand that living with an eating disorder or
(01:48):
any disordered eating behaviors that alter your life, it's exhausting
and it can feel lonely and there's a lot of shame.
So we're gonna get into some of that today. But
like I said, we're going to start off with an
email from Sarah. She said, Hey, I just wanted to
thank you for this podcast and being a safe place
for people like myself who are recovering from disordered eating.
(02:10):
Throughout the pandemic and the last few years, I unknowingly
developed many disordered eating habits and it started to significantly
impact my physical health. I've been listening since the beginning
and I've learned that this is my absolute safe space
to listen, knowing that you won't allow negative body talk,
suggestive behaviors that could be harmful to those in recovery,
(02:33):
and overall a healthy way to respect and learn about
our bodies. I noticed the impact when I listened to
an episode of another podcast yesterday and could start picking
up disordered discussion. Because of your podcast, I knew it
wasn't healthy to continue to listen, so I skipped that
episode altogether. Prior to outweigh I probably would have continued
(02:55):
listening to pick up on tips and further connect that
eating disorder behavior. I'm so so thankful for the work
that you'll do your friend Sarah, which Sarah, thank you
for sharing that. And that's what we want this to
be again, A safe place, your encouragement, a place where
you're not going to feel any judgment, a place where
(03:15):
hopefully you won't get triggered. I say that because sometimes
I'm not always perfect and I might say something that
might throw someone. That's why I don't ever do episodes alone.
Lisa and I weren't able to connect this week, so
here we are. It is just me and I don't
consider myself to be an expert in any way, shape
or form, And I'm going to be sharing things today
(03:36):
that are from experts that we know and trust and
hopefully will yes be that sliver of encouragement that you
need as you go into this weekend, this week ahead.
And I just want to, you know, make sure you'll
know that if if you're new to the podcast, I'm
not the expert. Lisa is the registered dietitian that has
(03:56):
an emphasis in eating disorders and it's her passion and
she is just very wise and knowledgeable when it comes
to this field. And we have Cat de Fata on
at times, he's a licensed therapist. We have other experts
that come and bring their amazing wealth of knowledge to
us where I feel safe talking with them because I
know that if I say anything triggering, they're gonna they're
(04:17):
gonna call me out. Because I host Four Things with
Amy Brown, and that's a podcast I've done for a
few years now, way longer than Outweigh, And there is
a time in my career where I have said things
either on the podcast or on the Bobby Bones Show
that have been triggering and toxic and I didn't realize
I was spreading disordered topics or encouraging people to engage
(04:40):
in disordered behavior, having disordered discussion kind of like Sarah
said in the email, she was listening to an episode
of another podcast and immediately she could start picking up
on the disordered talk and she was able to shut
it down. Like Taylor Swift said in her documentary or
little movie thing that she put out, she sometimes has
to change the channel. And that's literally what Sarah did
(05:03):
with that podcast is she skipped that episode altogether. She
was able to shut it down. She changed the channel
before it got into her little head or big head
I guess I should say, and started to impact her
day because I used to do that. I would pick
up on things from other people, but then I was
the person also delivering the things for people to pick
up on. And I don't like that that's part of
(05:25):
my past. But also I'm thankful for it, because I'm
thankful for how I've evolved and that there's been growth
and that I have proof of that and that we're
allowed to change and again evolve. If you're not evolving,
you're dead. I had some girlfriends over a couple of
weeks ago for my birthday, and that was like our
theme of the night, and we were talking about ways
where we've grown, and then we would all like say
(05:47):
together out loud, if you're not evolving, you're dead. So
I just want to give you that quote as well.
And everybody evolves in their own time, eating disorder recovery
or disordered behavior recovery. It takes a lot of work,
and you are on your own timeline, So don't feel shame.
And if you're not where I am now in what
(06:07):
I consider to be full recovery. But honestly, I still
have thoughts in my brain like I don't know will
I ever be back in the throes of this. I
don't know. I hope not. And I'm thankful for the
tools that I have in my toolbox that will hopefully
keep me where I am and I can continue to
be an encouragement to each of you and be that
that story of hope. Because I never thought I would
(06:28):
be this person. I just thought this was going to
be something that I had to live with the rest
of my life. And it was daunting and tiring and
exhausting and frustrating and sad and depressing and all the things.
It was low On the outside, people probably saw me
as high, but in my personal private moments at home,
it was very very very low and so many feelings
(06:50):
of shame. Which leads me to the next thing that
I'm going to share with you, which is from one
of my favorites, Jennifer Rowland. We've had her on the
podcast multiple times, we talk about her all the time.
I follow on Instagram. She is just awesome. Now. She
is an eating disorder therapist, and she put up a
blog post called Eating Disorders and Feelings of Shame, and
(07:12):
I'm just gonna read it. Like I said, we don't
have an expert on as a guest today, but I'm
going to bring the expert to you. And as you're walking,
I want you to take in these words. If you're walking,
or as you're sitting, or you're running errands, or you're
doing things at your house, however you listen to podcasts.
I just listen to so many podcasts while I walk
that I picture you listening out there right now walking.
(07:33):
But you don't even have to be moving while you
listen to this at all if you do not feel
like doing that at all. But for me, that's something
I like to do when I listen to podcasts. So
this blog is called Eating Disorders and Feelings of Shame.
I shouldn't feel so anxious around food. This shouldn't be
so hard. It's my fault that I developed an eating disorder.
(07:56):
I'm just such a shallow person. I often see clients
struggling with feelings of shame around their eating disorders, thoughts,
or behaviors. I've also had clients who express feeling like
it was some of their own choices which led them
to develop a neating disorder. The reality is that I've
never seen anyone successfully shame themselves into recovery from an
(08:17):
eating disorder. Shame actually can cause people to be dishonest, disconnected,
and not reach out for support when they need it.
The antidote to shame is having the courage to be vulnerable.
It's having the strength to reach out to someone and say, actually,
I'm not okay. It's also important to practice self compassion,
especially when self critical or shame based thoughts start to
(08:41):
come up. The following is an example of how you
can start to respond to your eating disorder thoughts with
more compassionate ones. It can be helpful to picture how
you might respond to a friend or a loved one
who was struggling. Eating disorder thought, I shouldn't feel so
anxious around food. Compassionate response. It's perfectly understandable that I'm
(09:03):
feeling anxious around food. I'm in recovery from an eating disorder,
and this is how my manifests. How can I take
the next pro recovery action anyways, Eating disorder thought, this
shouldn't be so hard. Compassionate response. If recovery were easy,
that my therapist and dietitian wouldn't have jobs. Recovery is
(09:24):
definitely tough, but it will get easier with time and practice.
Eating disorder thought, it's my fault that I developed a
needing disorder. Compassionate response. No one would choose to develop
in eating disorder. They're miserable, the same way that no
one would choose to have cancer. However, recovery is a
choice that I can keep making in each moment. Eating
(09:47):
disorder thought, I'm such a shallow person. Compassionate response. If
I were truly shallow, I wouldn't feel so distressed about
the fact that I'm fixating on weight. I'm not hello,
I'm someone who is in recovery from an eating disorder.
It's perfectly understandable that I'm going to have a tough
time with body image as this is one of my symptoms.
(10:09):
What can I do to be kind to myself right now?
Eating disorder thought, I'm not even sick enough to have
an eating disorder. Compassionate response. It doesn't matter what someone weighs,
whether they have normal labs or medical complications, or how
often they use behaviors. Everyone who is struggling with an
unhealthy relationship to food and their body is sick enough
(10:33):
and deserves to get treatment. It's not your fault that
you developed an eating disorder. Eating disorders or mental illnesses
that are caused by a combination of biopsychosocial factors. They
are not choices. You are not weak or a bad
person for struggling. You are someone who is doing the
best that you can right now with the coping strategies
(10:54):
that you have. Reaching out for help when you are
struggling is true courage. It takes incredible to say, actually,
I'm not okay and I need support. If you're struggling
with feelings of shame around your eating disorder, you are
not alone. The more that we can speak up about
eating disorders, the more we can start to shatter the
shame and stigma again. That's from Jennifer Rawlin. It's a
(11:19):
blog post that she put up on her website that's
called a Disorders and Feelings of Shame. So if any
of those feelings of shame resonate with you, then make
sure you give yourself the compassionate response. You might need
to rewind and listen to some of those, or go
to Jennifer Rowlin dot com r O L L I
N to get this blog so you can print it out,
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keep it with you, type it into your phone, copy
and paste it. Put it wherever you can see those
compassionate responses, so that way you have a way to
combat the feelings of shame again, stuff like I shouldn't
feel so anxious around food. This shouldn't be so hard.
It's my fault that I developed an eating disorder. I'm
just such a shallow person. Those are feelings that can
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be natural. Shame is normal. There's nothing wrong with you. However,
it's what you do with it. After you have the
thought and you have a person right here, shout out
Jennifer that has given you a compassionate response to yourself
that will help you change the channel that will help
you shut it down. Now. I had again so much
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shame with my eating disort of I said it earlier,
like there you just it's very lonely. I would binge
and purge. I felt like, oh, why couldn't I just
not eat instead of being the person that eats so
much and then chooses to, you know, get rid of
it and purge it in a way, which purging you know,
might have been an actual like purge type situation, or
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it might have been going to the gym for hours
on end to try to burn all of the calories.
So for me, oh, the weight of shame with the binging,
I just felt like I had nobody to talk to
For some reason. I felt like if I just didn't
eat at all, that would be easier to talk to
someone about, because you know, society understood that better. But
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the more and more people are talking about binging, the
less shame I feel about it, and it feels more
normal for me to talk about it. So that being said,
I want to share a newsletter that I got from
Katherine Hansen. She was a major part of my recovery.
I've never met herror, but I hope that one day
I get to tell her thank you for her book
Brain over Binge, and for her podcast, Brain over Binge,
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and for her newsletters that are all about Brain over Binge.
And I feel like since I felt so much shame
around the binging that I did, and I had nobody
to talk to, and I felt hopeless at times, and
it was so hard to give up the binges and
rewire my brain, and I'm thankful that Katherine was part
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of walking me through that, along with Lisa's fork, the
Noise program and other tools that I got from other
therapy that I have been doing. But I want to
read a newsletter that Catherine sent out. Hopefully it'll be
encouragement to y'all and maybe you'll want to go listen
to an episode that could help you out if you
happen to be someone that is struggling with binging right now,
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so Katherine wrote, you may feel frustrated that you've reduced
your binge eating but haven't fully eliminated it from your life.
So instead of celebrating your progress and making more improvements
until the binge eating is gone, you may tell yourself
that improvement is not good enough and that you might
as well go back to binging more. It's okay to
acknowledge that you want binge eating fully gone. Of course
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you do because it creates pain in your life. However,
less binge eating means less pain in your life, and
that's a step in the right direction. Going from binge
eating daily, for example, to binge eating once per week
leads to so much extra time, energy, money, and peace
of mind. Do not let a transition period of less
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freak Went episodes make you want to return to full
scale binging. Instead, allow your experience of additional freedom make
you even more motivated to fully recover. For more motivation,
listen to episode Creating Motivation to Stop binge eating. Okay, Amy,
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here that was the end of Catherine's little short newsletter,
But episode of the Brain over Binge podcast is where
you can find creating motivation to stop binge eating. And
I just felt like somebody out there needs to hear that.
And I wish I had had Catherine in my life
or a podcast like that to listen to ten, fifteen,
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twenty years ago, but I didn't. And here we are,
and slowly but surely again, I'm in what I like
to consider my recovery, and my hope is that you
will all get there too if that's what you need,
or you'll be able to stay there, or you'll feel
like you have the support, or you'll find the friends
that you can talk to about it the right community
(16:01):
for you. In the meantime, Lisa and I we want
to be that community for you every Saturday Throughoutweigh and
again we do love hearing from you. Thanks again to
Sarah who sent that nice email that I read at
the beginning of this podcast, and we appreciate it so much.
It gives us the encouragement to to just keep going
and keep putting out content, and keep putting out episodes
(16:23):
and keep sharing because you know, one by one it
is making a difference. And I just want each and
every one of you listening today to know you are
not alone, and if you need support, I hope that
you will find a way to ask for it. There
is no shame in what you're going through at all whatsoever.
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If you want to reach out to us again, the
email is Hello Outweigh podcast dot com and I hope
you'll have a great rest of your day and we'll
see again next Saturday.
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