Welcome to the '5th Thing' with Amy & Kat!! They kicked things off with a Dr. Seuss quote: "Fun is good!” and then got into some more concrete conversation cards and answered questions like: What were you known for in High School? What is an impactful book you've read and why? In an ideal world, what is one habit you'd like to do everyday, and why? What is a topic that gets you fired up?" That last question transpired into people that get mad at Amy for supporting Haiti instead of America (that really gets her fired up!!!) More questions: What product is currently your favorite? Amy shared about some snail secretion masks she’s been using lately that are super moisturizing! Other things discussed: Kat has a new boyfriend, pizza toast, shopping at Aritzia (where they don’t have mirrors in the dressing rooms!), and listener emails (one about nipple tattooing and another about nutrition/infertility/adoption). They closed out with another conversation card question: Have you ever accidentally shoplifted???
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing with Amy and
kat Are quote from today comes from the back of
my daughter's T shirt that she was wearing. Okay, and
it's a doctor Seuss quote, and it's simple. Fun is good.
Fun is good. So I thought we're gonna start off
with a little fun. Last week we busted out the
(00:25):
concrete conversation cards. I told John Mary gave them to
me for my birthday, and I've been having so much
fun with them and it was fun like last week
and we did those. It was fun. It was fun.
So we're kicking it off with a little bit of fun.
And these are questions. Maybe you could write them down
or keep them in mind, text them to one of
your friends, or if you're going out with any friends
this week, google questions. You don't even have to buy
(00:47):
these concrete conversations if you don't want. I do think
is a pretty cool gift idea. But you could google
questions for being intentional about having conversations with friends. And
they're different levels. We're kind of keeping on low key
level one. We're keeping an intentional light. I made bust
out of level three free if you want me to.
(01:10):
It's not as fun start off with it. Remember fun
is good, Dr Seuss. So what were you've known for
in high school? I was known for talking too much
and being late all the time, so much so that
my mom had to walk me to class when I
was Oh my god. Yeah, what was I known for
in high school? Uh? I was known for being funny.
(01:32):
I'm fun, like a like a fun time. But I
also was pretty conservative, So I was like conservative that
was known for a fun time but also extremely buttoned up.
What is an impactful book you've read? And why impactful? Oh?
(01:54):
This is easy for me right now. Maybe you should
talk to somebody. Yeah, that's a good one. And I
liked it so much as it was it was fun
and it was a story, but you couldn't help but
relate and think and learn things. And it was one
of my favorite books in the sense that at the
end of the book, I was like, I'm not going
to finish this book, and I put it away for
like three months because I didn't want to be done
with it. Yeah, and then I was like, well I
(02:15):
want to know what happens. Yeah, I finished it. That
book is by Laurie Gottlieb, which she's come on the
four Things podcasting before. She's been on unied therapy with
Cat and she's a therapist and the story it's true stuff.
So she's talking about her life as a therapist, her
therapist because she goes to therapy. She got permission, I guess,
from some of her clients to be able to tell
(02:35):
some of their stories. She did change their names. But
then I spent way too much trying to figure it out. Now,
did you figure out John? I tried to figure him out.
I feel like we could figure it out. I tried.
I didn't want to invest a lot of time into it,
but I definitely tried to figure out who he was.
But yeah, good, good one. This is level two. Okay,
in an ideal world, what is one habit you would
(02:58):
like to do every day? And why? I would like
to wake up at the same time every single day
and then on the weekend, m an ideal world with
the world. So no, well, I know, it's just this
is fun. Yeah, okay, sorry, it's level two. It's making
me nervous. I think, wake up at the same time
or I would like to get like nine hours of
(03:19):
sleep every night. That's wants waking up is fine? Like
you you could want that, but just after you could,
why don't you weave both of those in as one.
I would like to get nine hours of sleep and
wake up at the same time I do a world.
I would like to drink what is it eight ounces
of You need more than eight ounces of water a day? Yeah,
(03:40):
you need eight eight cups. I would like to drink
enough water every day because I feel like I've gotten
really bad at that. That's a good habit. These are boring.
Do you drink coffee every day? Yes? And I maybe
don't want to do that anymore. Why I saw that
because you drink two to three cups of coffee a day,
it'll add years to your life. Really, researchers setday to
see something about how coffee is not good for you.
(04:01):
I know, well, you can basically find a whatever you
study about anything, but I choose to believe. I would
say that there's positive effects on our bodies and our
hearts and our minds, and by doing things you'd like
to do well. I used to be a tea drinker,
and I only drink tea. I didn't have a cup
of coffee until I was probably twenty four. I didn't
like the smell of it. But then I was like,
(04:22):
coffee drinkers seem cool. I want to be a coffee drinker.
So I learned to like coffee, and now I feel
like I neglect my tea collection. So I don't know
why I'm talking about this because I asked you about
coffee when it comes to habits every day, like I
have coffee every single day, and there was a season
in my disordered eating days that I didn't drink coffee
because I thought it was causing inflammation in my body.
(04:44):
But it's not. But you have a nice routine of
your coffee, like a beautiful coffee maker, and you make
it from the grounds, and I just like put a
cake cup in. Oh, Okay, I want to see what
this is. What is the topic that gets you fired up? Oh?
I feel like a lot of topics get me fired up.
I mean easily, diet culture stuff and body image stuff
obviously that gets me fired up. Bobby and I got
(05:07):
in a fight several months ago. We were actually doing
a segment. I wouldn't call it like a fight fight,
but kind of. It was heated and we were pre
taping something no but it was gonna be and then
it got pulled because he just didn't even want to
deal with it. And then we were able to have
like a responsible, meaningful conversation about it later and he
(05:30):
expressed to me why he was frustrated and annoyed, which
which I get it, and then I was able to
express why I was frustrated and annoyed. But it's just
like we just don't see. Ever since, my eyes have
been opened to like some of the rhetoric that is
loosely used to make people fear foods, and again I
was part of that. When you don't really know the
harm that you're doing, you're like, this is silly. But
(05:52):
when I picture all the people that are either driving
in their cars listening to the Bobby Bones Joe or
listening to the podcast that are dealing with a needing
disorder or disordered eatings, and what we're saying literally could
be triggering them which I know you can't trigger, or
encouraging them to do something that's really not very good
for them, right or yeah, yeah, I'm thinking that it
(06:14):
was like giving them this quote unquote permission to go
do something that then could lead to harmful behaviors. And again,
nobody means the harm there's millions of listeners, Like, you
can't try to appease everybody, can't be cautious about everything,
every single thing that we say on the show, because
there's all kinds of people dealing with all kinds of
(06:35):
stuff that are listening. So I get it. But we
have talked about I think Scuba Steve saved the audio
so one day at my service, but I think we
call it like the French fry fight. F f what
was to talk about? But well, I will say as
you said that, this is what I think has been
most recently firing me up is people who are capitalizing
(07:00):
exploiting the good stuff people are trying to do, like
anti diet culture or body positivity stuff. I feel like
people are taking that and using it to their advantage
to like sell products or or promote themselves when they
really aren't even living within that stuff. That's what's been
firing me up lately. Oh you know something else that
just popped in my head that gets me fired up
right now is that people that are rude and irritated
(07:21):
and sending dumb messages, which really they are. I feel
like I'm being immature right now, but it's just bonkers
to me that I did the Haiti fundraiser for my
birthday for the orphanage where my kids grew up, because
they had some unexpected expenses pop up, and I thought, oh, well,
my birthday might be a good time to like do
some pimp and joy and and four things, and all
the spot items and all proceeds go to the orphanage,
(07:44):
and we can really just make an impact there right
now because they have some specific needs and they need
help with security and education and some other water, like
they're well broke. And it blew my mind that I
even got a few messages, but honestly, if I had
just gotten one, it would be one too many of
people complaining that we're supporting Haiti instead of America, Like
(08:05):
what about the people in our own backyard? And then
that makes me think of the whole love your neighbor thing.
And I don't know if people take that literally, but
I see people all around the world as our neighbor.
And if they're going to take it that way, thinking
we should only support America, then I'm gonna be like, well, literally,
that means you should only support your next door neighbor,
like the person lives right next to you. And then
it stops there because that's how you're acting right now.
(08:28):
And then I mean the mistake, which always makes me laugh.
But I'm like, why am I even giving these people
the time of day? Where I click on someone and
I go to their page and most of the time
they have a really cute profile pick they look like
nice people. In their bio it says that they're a
lover of Jesus. And sometimes they even have a Bible
verse like in their little, you know, Instagram bio, And
it just is so funny to me because also, if
(08:50):
you want to think about it, in the Bible it
says to take care of orphans and widows, So what
about that? Are we only supposed to take care of
orphans and widows in America? And also Jesus wasn't even
from America, Like what where do they think the Bible originated?
It's just like, why wouldn't we take care of the
whole world if we could? And I love that people
have different passions. I love that people are passionate about
(09:12):
organizations right here in America. I love that we have
other organizations they're passionate about different countries in Africa, and
that the Shop Forward has been huge and helping out
with what's going on in Ukraine, and through Uni Seth,
they've been able to partner with a few weather organizations
to make sure that they're getting critical things that they need,
and the whole world has been pitching in on that.
(09:34):
It's been amazing to see. So isn't it a beautiful
thing that I happen to be passionate about Haiti and
we have listeners that show up and shop and want
to make a difference, And now we're able to fund
all of those projects, Like, it's amazing. We should all
just come together in that way. Don't get me fired
up anymore about only supporting places in America just doesn't
(09:55):
make sense to me. And I'll go ahead and take
the time to mention that right now too. And don't
get fired up about this if you're one of those people.
But for Mother's Day, we're gonna be supporting Project Meta
Share again. It's already started. Cool mom stuff is back
in stock. The first round sold out. I don't know
if the next round is up, but customizable gray pullovers
like a light gray pullover with white letters that's never
(10:15):
been offered before, and again the first round sold out
but there will be more before Mother's Day. If you
wanted to customize something for the mom in your life
or a four Things tout, or you wanted to get
a star necklace or anything that we have up at
shop squaw dot com. E s p w A and
A Spua means Hope in Haitian Creole will be supporting
Project Meta Share and the life saving work that they
(10:38):
are doing. If you want to check out their Instagram handle,
it's at Meta Share for Haiti and the four is
the number four And they recently put up a picture
of the ambulances they were able to buy because of
a lot of you that shopped last Mother's Day. They
were in desperate need of a new ambulance and the
fundraising went so while they were able to buy two.
(10:58):
And they're doing life saving work pregnant women and newborn babies,
new moms, new babies, and then women that are about
to give birth. They might be in risk or in danger.
If Project Meta Share was not there, they would maybe
not even survive childbirth. But now they have access to
medical care because Project Meta Share is in those areas
(11:18):
and they have those ambulances to get those moms to
the hospitals and to the clinics and different appointments that
are crucial to the mom and the baby. And so
I am super thankful for Project Meta Share. And if
you want to high in the America thing, it was
founded by a doctor, Dr Green, based out of Miami, Florida.
So there's your American tie in. And then there are
a lot of Haitians that work there as well. The
(11:40):
main organizations we work at there are the Orphanage, My
Life Speaks, and then Project Meta Share. And they have
Haitian employees. It's not like Americans just swoop in there
and take over everything and don't give Haitians the opportunity
to learn and grow and work and be a part
of the change in their own country. No, their Haitian employed,
so to me that is super important as well. So
(12:01):
all that to say, if you're shopping for Mother's Day,
there's items out available shop squad dot com. Okay, where
were we? Okay? What is currently one of your favorite
(12:23):
products of ICTs? So I feel like I gotta make
this fun Okay, wait, one of my favorite products? Well,
I'm going to tell you one that I'm obsessed with
right now, which is funny because I told you that
Mary gave me these concrete conversations that we're doing right now.
But she was the first person to tell me too
about these snail musin masks. I mean, I've heard about
(12:44):
them before. I'd even talked about them in the pile
in the Bobby Bones show. But this specific brand she
found and liked. There might be other ones out there
that are good, but this has five ratings on a
mask Amazon, like a sheep mask. It's like they're disposable
their one use. It's Snail Secretions. Okay, lost me, but
(13:04):
it's super moisturizing. Did you do it? Yes? And the
brand is c O s r X so cost r
X maybe is how they say it, so ce O
s r X. I'll add these to my Amazon page,
which you can find Snail Secretions my Amazon favorites at
Radio amy dot com. I need to go add this
(13:26):
right now because I've already told multiple friends about it.
Chills from that. They've all ordered it and they have
loved it, so I'll just leave it at that. And
it comes with tin sheets and it's about twenty five dollars,
so you know, do the math is is that to fifty?
(13:48):
So too? Is that yeah, yeah, yes. I was just
getting onto my daughter the other day because she was like,
you can't do anything without a calculator, can you? And
she's like, yes I can, and I'm like, no, you can't,
and yes, I was correct. I just checked myself. It
is two dollars and fifty cents per mask. But it's
like you're going to the spa for two dollars and
(14:09):
never went to a spot where they put snales secretions
on my face. Yeah, well, welcome to Hollywood. This is
what the stars are doing. It says here, simple ingredient
with glowing results. The snail musin has seven times higher
concentration than other snail musin masks that are on the market.
(14:30):
So this is clearly a quality mask, and I gotta
say I have been loving it. I might even treat
myself to a snail mask tonight. I'm going to pass. Okay,
So what is currently one of your favorite products or gadgets? Okay,
I have to Neither of them involve animal secretions. The
first one is after you started talking about i'm asks
(14:51):
and you put them in the freezer. Yeah, I started
doing it and I am obsessed with that. Well, to
clarify you, can keep them in the fridge. But if
if you want to pop them in the freezer, like
five minutes before you put them in your eyes to
do that, but don't keep him in the freezer because
then they'll be frozen. And I will say I did
get my boyfriend to do them as well, and he enjoyed.
Is this where Cat is announcing she has a boyfriend?
(15:12):
We're just gonna keep going. I mean Cat, to be fair,
we're pre taping this, and what if you'll break up?
I'm just kidding. Oh my god, are you giving me
bad juju that you can knock? Go on? Okay, bad
juju is not real. I obviously like him. Y'all are
going to be together. I wish you nothing but happiness.
(15:37):
Now if I say for the rest of your lives
and I hope that y'all get married, then you'll be like, stop,
don't jink sit so like, which are we jinxing? I
don't don't well that just say that that's good? Okay, yeah, okay.
If he's listening to this, and that might be weird
because he's like wolves, slow down and just started dating,
don't announce me. Um, you know, he would actually probably
love that anyway he would not like this part. He
did that I'm asked, and he liked it. So if
(15:59):
there are men out or that are like, oh, I
would never do these products, you should give them a shot.
The other thing I will always say is one of
my favorite products that is not a new thing is
the Sainless steel face roller. That has always been a
thing that I'm obsessed with. But also side note, non
beauty product. Did you know that they made lighters like
I use it from my candle? Like you know a
lighter that you has the flame and you light your
(16:21):
can that are electric and you can charge them and
then you can light your candle with this electric lighter.
I have heard of that. Okay, well, but it was
new to me. Changed my life. I have lighters and
they always run out, and I'm like, i can't light
my candles and I'm afraid of matches and i can't
light a match. It's like a thing that I can't do.
Don't give me fun fact it brings me out. So
(16:42):
a kind of mine told me about a lighter you
charge it on your wall and whenever you want, you
can light a candle. I love that you can find
on Amazon. I've got another question I want to stay answer,
but I'm going to read an email from Caitlin. She's
from Missouri and it's regarding our girl, Megan, who micro
bladed our eyebrows, went my coming up touch up. She's
(17:02):
the best. I just had mine done a couple of
weeks ago at this point, and a touch up is good.
You're gonna feel so good after your touch up. But
Megan is the best when it comes to micro blading brows.
But she also does the three D nipple tattooing, and
that's I just wanted to give a little shout out
to Caitlin for sending in this note. Hey, Amy, I
can't thank you enough for having Megan on talking about
(17:22):
her three D nipple tattooing. Breast cancer and ovarian cancer
have run rampant and my family, my mom made the
decision to get her breasts removed, and I was so
excited to show her Megan's work. Her talent and passion
are obvious and how she speaks, and then once you
see her work, Wow, totally blown away. Rocks my socks off.
(17:43):
Thanks for all the goodness and honesty that you bring
to my life. Have a great day, So I'm gonna
pass this note along to Megan's who just wanted you
to know that this note will make Megan's day. But
I thought by sharing this email would be great because, Yeah,
I mean, if you're in the Nashville area or you've
had breast reconstruction and you've been through that whole thing,
(18:04):
look into Megan maybe doing your nipples, or if you
don't have eyebrows like me, then look into Megan for
doing some micro relating on your brows. And then also
this email serves as a reminder to get your mammograms
and do your breast exams in the shower. Like That's
something that I'm also committing to now that I'm forty
(18:26):
one and I'm trying to be responsible is shower exams
and trying to make sure that I just checked them
often and then once a year making sure that I'm
doing my mamogram appointment and my O B G y in. Oh,
I thought you were going to say your dermatology appointment. No,
I had not just recently told I did not know
that we were supposed to do that once a year. Yeah,
(18:48):
Cat was going to the dermatologists, and I said I
wasn't even going and I found something that ended up
being like a blood blister. It wasn't even oh, yeah,
you're right your mom's house and yes, And I was like,
you need to go, and then cats like, no, you
don't have to go over a year and I said, yes,
you do, and then you kind of argued with me
about it until you googled it and you realized I
was right, So go to the dermatologist as well. Go
(19:11):
to the dermatologist. Have you heard of pizza toast, like
toast that you put like sauce on Yeah. Haley Bieber
shared it on TikTok. I just didn't know. I saw
people talking about that. I've never had it. Should make it.
You just put cheese, sauce and pizza toppings on bread
and then you toast. It can be any bread. But
it's been viral for a little bit. Sour dough is
one of the most popular things to you, so I
(19:33):
was just sharing that in case you want to, like,
here's my thing. Would we think that was as revolutionary
if it wasn't Haley Bieber that made this go viral.
I pretty much like to do anything, Haley Bieber says,
like I was shopping at Aritzia Nashville. Finally got in Aritzia.
Have you been Yes, and it's too overwhelming. I can't
go in. It's like Zara. I can't do it. Aritzia
(19:53):
is less overwhelming than Zara. But they have fifty million
versions of the same thing. Okay, black tank top, they
have five. I need to go to a store. They
have two black tank tops. You can have this one
or this one. I'm like, Okay, I like that one.
I agree. I get easily overwhelmed. But I will say
at Zara, I can walk in and I in about
two seconds, I turned around and walk out Aritzia. I
took the challenge. And I gotta say, the girls that
(20:13):
work there, they're like cheerleaders. The dressing rooms they don't
have mirrors inside the curtain. They have like communal mirrors outside,
so you have to walk outside of the dressing room
to check yourself out that. But then every girl that
works there is like, oh, those looks so good or
that looks so great? What do they ever say? And
I wouldn't go with that one. Yeah, okay, because I
(20:34):
told me that I should opt for the other pants
instead of the others, you know what I mean? Like
they were honest. I went there once to get a
dress for something, and I was really distraught that there
was no mirror in the dressing room, because I don't
if I don't know what something looks like, I don't
want to walk out into the middle of the store.
I know that part felt weird. I tried on these
white pants and I felt like they were kind to
(20:56):
see through. But then I was like, oh no, no,
and I had to go out there to see that.
Keep the communal mirror, keep the cheerleading, just give me
a mirror inside of my safe. I wonder what that's about.
I don't hope it's not like a budget thing. Or
maybe it's so you didn't have to come out so
then that people are like, oh, that looks so good,
and then you feel like you have to buy it. Maybe.
I mean, I will say Aritzia is way more aesthetically
(21:17):
pleasing than Zara. Yeah, although I like both. Zara is
a little bit. It's it's a step up in the
price point. It's still not crazy expensive. I mean it
can be. I guess it just depends. Like they had
some items that were priced a lot higher, but it's
like Zara. But elevated Aritzia is. Yeah, it's it's more
expensive for sure. I guess just the stuff I got
(21:38):
didn't seem that bad. But there I saw some pricier stuff,
but I just didn't get it. But anyway, all this
to say were talking about well because Hailey Bieber one
time she was wearing like some sweatshirt from Aritzia or something.
And then I was in New York for Mary's birthday
and that's the first time I ever went into an
Aritzia store. And I think Mary said that story like
Haley Bieber was just wearing the say that I was, like,
(21:58):
she was let me I five to be Haley Weeper.
I don't know why. I mean, again, I'm forty one.
Why do I want to be Justina on your Haley
Beaver sweatshirt that you got and make some pizza toast,
take a picture of it and tagger, okay, because she'll
probably see that for sure. I got this the cat
(22:20):
sweatshirt that Jennifer Garner put up on Instagram. No, I
don't think so I tagged her hoping that it would
start our friendship and she didn't see it. But it's
the sweatshirt where the there's a hole in your cat
like sits in the sweatshirt and sticks their head out
and you can walk around with them. And maybe if
(22:41):
everybody tags Jennifer Garner in that for you, then maybe
she'll be like, yeah, is Amy girl. I have another
email from Desiree. She said, Hey me, I want to
start by saying how much I love the Bobby Bones
show in your four Things podcast. I greatly appreciate your
willingness to be vulnerable with all the listeners and share
all the things that you've been through. I was listening
to outweigh and realize that I have some disordered eating patterns.
(23:03):
I'm also struggling with fertility, and I would like to
see if nutrition could help in this area. But I
want to be cautious about what accounts I follow and
how I manage all of this. Do you have any
accounts that you recommend related to infertility and nutrition? Also,
what book was it that you and your husband read
that helped you decide on adoption? Appreciate your help, Desiree. Okay,
I would be cautious of following any accounts really that
(23:27):
aren't licensed medical professionals in this field, Like if you
are following account I don't personally have any that I
follow with the infertility anymore, because I that was years
ago and I'm not trying to get pregnant any longer.
But I know that I did things back then when
I was trying to get pregnant because I heard, oh,
this person does this, and this person and that and
(23:48):
read this book and change their diet. And that's when
I went gluten free, dairy free, all the freeze. I
did all of it. I already had disordered eating behaviors
before that, but it was almost like, under the disguise
of fertility struggle, I had an excuse to not eat
what everyone else was eating. And I loved having that excuse,
(24:09):
and I will say I was pretty strict with it,
and I didn't get pregnant. Everybody's body is different, so
I would just be weary of anybody that's claiming if
you eat this way, it can help you get pregnant,
or if you start getting colonics all the time, it'll
help you get pregnant, because I did that too. And
then the woman that was giving me the colonics told
me that I need to stop using dryer sheets because
that was causing my infertility, and I was like, what what.
(24:32):
I love dryer sheets, and I mean literally I was,
but I did. I was like, oh, like as this
woman sticking a tube up my butt to clean out
my cul in I didn't get rid of the dry sheets. Yeah.
And she also told me the airplanes were poisoning us.
I mean it was a whole thing. So I was like, okay.
So I would just be weary of anybody that's trying
(24:53):
to pitch something on you as like a sure fire
way to get pregnant if it involves food and eliminating food,
adding food, different things. That said, I don't know if
you have the resources to work with a registered dietitian
that could work with you, maybe there could be some things.
I don't know. That's my recommendation. I don't have any
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accounts for you, and then I would feel weird giving
you an account to follow with that and specific of
a need because also there's so many accounts now where
everybody's an expert on everything. And I know this is
something that bothers you Cat, because Cat actually hasn't done
a lot of the well, all the work you're still
continue to work on yourself and your education, and even
(25:36):
you just did that eating disorder. Of course the other
day it's like a two day training. Yeah, because when
you are licensed, you have to do continuing educations. We
have to continue to educate ourselves because things change and
we learn new stuff and just to keep you sharp.
But then there's some people that are just like I
did I read this book and a decided and or
I had this experience and I decided to be an expert.
Doesn't work that way, It doesn't. So you just said
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it's beautiful. Well, I'm sorry, desiree, that you're going through this,
because I know that it is hard. But I will
just speak to having had an eating disorder or disordered
behaviors and then starting to adopt a certain lifestyle. It
didn't get me pregnant, but it did dig me into
a deeper hole with my eating disorder because, let me
(26:19):
tell you, I still even have to rewire the part
of my brain that's like it's okay, you can eat gluten,
because that is the book that set me off to
where I fear dairy and gluten. I had a book
about gluten and like athletics that I thought was the Bible,
but I was like, if I eat gluten, now will
I be able to run like, yes, actually, it's very helpful. Yeah,
(26:40):
so it's fine. And then the book that we read
that helped us decide on adoption is called Adopted for Life.
So if you and your husband want to check that out,
that was very helpful read, especially for my husband when
it came to like getting him a percent on board
with adoption, because we both came to that conclusion in
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our own time. It wasn't like right away we both
were like, oh, we're going to adopt, but I had
to come to terms but that we might not have
a baby. And it took him longer to know that,
like he might not father his own children with his
own body. I say that because children, so he but
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now that we've been parents to these, to our kids
for the last four years, like now he would just
he feels the love for them just as he would
any kid. And it's it's just like when a baby
is born, like if you adopt, like suddenly you're like,
oh my gosh, I'm a parent, Like what is happening?
And so you instantly you feel that love, that connection.
I almost said instantly, but then I stopped myself because
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for some people it's not instantly and that's okay, it's okay,
it's okay. That is okay, you're not alone. Okay, before
we go, cat one last question. This is a one
two or three. This is a one A level one
from Concrete Conversations. Have you ever accidentally shoplifted? If so,
did you make the return so accidentally? Oh, like accidentally,
(28:09):
like they gave you something for five purpose? Yeah, when
I when I was in like fourth or fifth grade,
you know, you have those, um, what were they called,
like Scholastic book fairs, so your class gets to go
and like see it and then you can decide if
you want to buy something or not. However, well, I
think that maybe my mom was like, you're not getting
anything because I just wanted like the cool pencil pouches
(28:32):
with the erasers and the paper clips and stuff. I
didn't want the books, and so my mom wouldn't probably
buy it for me. I don't know if I asked
or not. So I stole an eraser out of one
of the packets. I didn't take the whole thing. I
just took one eraser and it was probably like a
watermelon shaped eraser or something like that. Well, I didn't
bring it back. I kept it do you still have it? No,
(28:53):
I don't, but if I had it now, i'd take
it back. I stole candy. I don't know how old
I was, but I wanted those Reese's cups. We were
checking out at the store and my mom went by
them for me, so I stuck them down my pants,
and then we were walking out to the parking lot
they fell out. But also, your pants is the worst
place to put it chocolate. Well, I know, but they
fell out and she made me return them. Oh so
you didn't get to enjoy them. But most recently, I
(29:15):
stole chicken because Stevens and I were at Target. You know,
we got all the targeting type things, but then we
went over to the grocery section and then I added
some things to the bottom of the cart, some chicken breasts,
and we checked out, but I never pulled the chicken
from the bottom of the cart. And we got all
the way out to the car and we were unloading
and there was the chicken. And it was late and
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I was tired, and I did not want to go back,
but we did because I had to show my son
we don't steal chicken. Well, I wasn't going to take
it anyway, but it just was the thing. So we
went back in, we paid for the chicken, and I
will say I don't have a memory of something like that,
but I do know that there has been times where
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stores have like accidentally not charged you for something, and
a lot of times it accidentally shop lifted. But they
are so appreciative when you come back that I think
a lot of them is They're like, oh, I don't
worry about that was our fault, but they just appreciate you,
even like going in and be like, oh my gosh,
this was missed. So the more you know. Okay, real quick,
before we go, I realized that we were talking about Megan.
(30:17):
I did not say where to find her, and I'll
just give out her website. It's beauty by Megan dot
com m E E G E N is how you
spell Megan, and then her instagram I think is the
same thing, beauty dot by dot Megan. And she's a
(30:38):
cosmetic tattoo artist highly recommended. Yeah, she's great. Okay, Well
that is a wrap on today's episode. If you want
to send us questions for the fifth Thing or emails,
we haven't been getting to a lot of them lately,
but I'm trying to throw them in some episodes, but
I kind of like the casual vibe. It's just chatting
with cat and then seeing where it resonates with you
(30:59):
and what kind of calm versations it might lead to
with you and your friends or with us. So make
sure you reach out let us know four things with
Amy Brown at gmail dot com. If it's for the
fifth thing, put fifth thing in the subject line. If
it's for the listener, Q and A, put listener Q
and A. If it's for four things, whatever, just use
the subject lind to please tell me what it is
that you are wanting to reach out about. And Thursday,
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my Shaun any Quist episode with my sister should be
airing this Thursday, So hope you all enjoy that. And yeah,
I have a great rest of your day. And thank you.
If you listen to the last SEWS episode, you know,
and that's our show, thank you. Is that what we're saying?
Did you say together? Yeah? One, two, three, and then
(31:43):
that's our show. Thank you. Have the same inflection work
on it. Okay, well, I say, and that's our show.
And then we both say thank you, Okay, thank you,
thank you, thank you, And all right, well, and that's
our show, thank you. I can't do you can. I
got it. We'll practice it off air and then we'll
come back next week like ready to get one more
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time now and all right, well okay, I hope you
have a great day and look at you when you do.
All right, I hope you have a great day. And
that's our show. Thank you.
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing with Amy and
kat Are quote from today comes from the back of
my daughter's T shirt that she was wearing. Okay, and
it's a doctor Seuss quote, and it's simple. Fun is good.
Fun is good. So I thought we're gonna start off
with a little fun. Last week we busted out the
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concrete conversation cards. I told John Mary gave them to
me for my birthday, and I've been having so much
fun with them and it was fun like last week
and we did those. It was fun. It was fun.
So we're kicking it off with a little bit of fun.
And these are questions. Maybe you could write them down
or keep them in mind, text them to one of
your friends, or if you're going out with any friends
this week, google questions. You don't even have to buy
(00:47):
these concrete conversations if you don't want. I do think
is a pretty cool gift idea. But you could google
questions for being intentional about having conversations with friends. And
they're different levels. We're kind of keeping on low key
level one. We're keeping an intentional light. I made bust
out of level three free if you want me to.
(01:10):
It's not as fun start off with it. Remember fun
is good, Dr Seuss. So what were you've known for
in high school? I was known for talking too much
and being late all the time, so much so that
my mom had to walk me to class when I
was Oh my god. Yeah, what was I known for
in high school? Uh? I was known for being funny.
(01:32):
I'm fun, like a like a fun time. But I
also was pretty conservative, So I was like conservative that
was known for a fun time but also extremely buttoned up.
What is an impactful book you've read? And why impactful? Oh?
(01:54):
This is easy for me right now. Maybe you should
talk to somebody. Yeah, that's a good one. And I
liked it so much as it was it was fun
and it was a story, but you couldn't help but
relate and think and learn things. And it was one
of my favorite books in the sense that at the
end of the book, I was like, I'm not going
to finish this book, and I put it away for
like three months because I didn't want to be done
with it. Yeah, and then I was like, well I
(02:15):
want to know what happens. Yeah, I finished it. That
book is by Laurie Gottlieb, which she's come on the
four Things podcasting before. She's been on unied therapy with
Cat and she's a therapist and the story it's true stuff.
So she's talking about her life as a therapist, her
therapist because she goes to therapy. She got permission, I guess,
from some of her clients to be able to tell
(02:35):
some of their stories. She did change their names. But
then I spent way too much trying to figure it out. Now,
did you figure out John? I tried to figure him out.
I feel like we could figure it out. I tried.
I didn't want to invest a lot of time into it,
but I definitely tried to figure out who he was.
But yeah, good, good one. This is level two. Okay,
in an ideal world, what is one habit you would
(02:58):
like to do every day? And why? I would like
to wake up at the same time every single day
and then on the weekend, m an ideal world with
the world. So no, well, I know, it's just this
is fun. Yeah, okay, sorry, it's level two. It's making
me nervous. I think, wake up at the same time
or I would like to get like nine hours of
(03:19):
sleep every night. That's wants waking up is fine? Like
you you could want that, but just after you could,
why don't you weave both of those in as one.
I would like to get nine hours of sleep and
wake up at the same time I do a world.
I would like to drink what is it eight ounces
of You need more than eight ounces of water a day? Yeah,
(03:40):
you need eight eight cups. I would like to drink
enough water every day because I feel like I've gotten
really bad at that. That's a good habit. These are boring.
Do you drink coffee every day? Yes? And I maybe
don't want to do that anymore. Why I saw that
because you drink two to three cups of coffee a day,
it'll add years to your life. Really, researchers setday to
see something about how coffee is not good for you.
(04:01):
I know, well, you can basically find a whatever you
study about anything, but I choose to believe. I would
say that there's positive effects on our bodies and our
hearts and our minds, and by doing things you'd like
to do well. I used to be a tea drinker,
and I only drink tea. I didn't have a cup
of coffee until I was probably twenty four. I didn't
like the smell of it. But then I was like,
(04:22):
coffee drinkers seem cool. I want to be a coffee drinker.
So I learned to like coffee, and now I feel
like I neglect my tea collection. So I don't know
why I'm talking about this because I asked you about
coffee when it comes to habits every day, like I
have coffee every single day, and there was a season
in my disordered eating days that I didn't drink coffee
because I thought it was causing inflammation in my body.
(04:44):
But it's not. But you have a nice routine of
your coffee, like a beautiful coffee maker, and you make
it from the grounds, and I just like put a
cake cup in. Oh, Okay, I want to see what
this is. What is the topic that gets you fired up? Oh?
I feel like a lot of topics get me fired up.
I mean easily, diet culture stuff and body image stuff
obviously that gets me fired up. Bobby and I got
(05:07):
in a fight several months ago. We were actually doing
a segment. I wouldn't call it like a fight fight,
but kind of. It was heated and we were pre
taping something no but it was gonna be and then
it got pulled because he just didn't even want to
deal with it. And then we were able to have
like a responsible, meaningful conversation about it later and he
(05:30):
expressed to me why he was frustrated and annoyed, which
which I get it, and then I was able to
express why I was frustrated and annoyed. But it's just
like we just don't see. Ever since, my eyes have
been opened to like some of the rhetoric that is
loosely used to make people fear foods, and again I
was part of that. When you don't really know the
harm that you're doing, you're like, this is silly. But
(05:52):
when I picture all the people that are either driving
in their cars listening to the Bobby Bones Joe or
listening to the podcast that are dealing with a needing
disorder or disordered eatings, and what we're saying literally could
be triggering them which I know you can't trigger, or
encouraging them to do something that's really not very good
for them, right or yeah, yeah, I'm thinking that it
(06:14):
was like giving them this quote unquote permission to go
do something that then could lead to harmful behaviors. And again,
nobody means the harm there's millions of listeners, Like, you
can't try to appease everybody, can't be cautious about everything,
every single thing that we say on the show, because
there's all kinds of people dealing with all kinds of
(06:35):
stuff that are listening. So I get it. But we
have talked about I think Scuba Steve saved the audio
so one day at my service, but I think we
call it like the French fry fight. F f what
was to talk about? But well, I will say as
you said that, this is what I think has been
most recently firing me up is people who are capitalizing
(07:00):
exploiting the good stuff people are trying to do, like
anti diet culture or body positivity stuff. I feel like
people are taking that and using it to their advantage
to like sell products or or promote themselves when they
really aren't even living within that stuff. That's what's been
firing me up lately. Oh you know something else that
just popped in my head that gets me fired up
right now is that people that are rude and irritated
(07:21):
and sending dumb messages, which really they are. I feel
like I'm being immature right now, but it's just bonkers
to me that I did the Haiti fundraiser for my
birthday for the orphanage where my kids grew up, because
they had some unexpected expenses pop up, and I thought, oh, well,
my birthday might be a good time to like do
some pimp and joy and and four things, and all
the spot items and all proceeds go to the orphanage,
(07:44):
and we can really just make an impact there right
now because they have some specific needs and they need
help with security and education and some other water, like
they're well broke. And it blew my mind that I
even got a few messages, but honestly, if I had
just gotten one, it would be one too many of
people complaining that we're supporting Haiti instead of America, Like
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what about the people in our own backyard? And then
that makes me think of the whole love your neighbor thing.
And I don't know if people take that literally, but
I see people all around the world as our neighbor.
And if they're going to take it that way, thinking
we should only support America, then I'm gonna be like, well, literally,
that means you should only support your next door neighbor,
like the person lives right next to you. And then
it stops there because that's how you're acting right now.
(08:28):
And then I mean the mistake, which always makes me laugh.
But I'm like, why am I even giving these people
the time of day? Where I click on someone and
I go to their page and most of the time
they have a really cute profile pick they look like
nice people. In their bio it says that they're a
lover of Jesus. And sometimes they even have a Bible
verse like in their little, you know, Instagram bio, And
it just is so funny to me because also, if
(08:50):
you want to think about it, in the Bible it
says to take care of orphans and widows, So what
about that? Are we only supposed to take care of
orphans and widows in America? And also Jesus wasn't even
from America, Like what where do they think the Bible originated?
It's just like, why wouldn't we take care of the
whole world if we could? And I love that people
have different passions. I love that people are passionate about
(09:12):
organizations right here in America. I love that we have
other organizations they're passionate about different countries in Africa, and
that the Shop Forward has been huge and helping out
with what's going on in Ukraine, and through Uni Seth,
they've been able to partner with a few weather organizations
to make sure that they're getting critical things that they need,
and the whole world has been pitching in on that.
(09:34):
It's been amazing to see. So isn't it a beautiful
thing that I happen to be passionate about Haiti and
we have listeners that show up and shop and want
to make a difference, And now we're able to fund
all of those projects, Like, it's amazing. We should all
just come together in that way. Don't get me fired
up anymore about only supporting places in America just doesn't
(09:55):
make sense to me. And I'll go ahead and take
the time to mention that right now too. And don't
get fired up about this if you're one of those people.
But for Mother's Day, we're gonna be supporting Project Meta
Share again. It's already started. Cool mom stuff is back
in stock. The first round sold out. I don't know
if the next round is up, but customizable gray pullovers
like a light gray pullover with white letters that's never
(10:15):
been offered before, and again the first round sold out
but there will be more before Mother's Day. If you
wanted to customize something for the mom in your life
or a four Things tout, or you wanted to get
a star necklace or anything that we have up at
shop squaw dot com. E s p w A and
A Spua means Hope in Haitian Creole will be supporting
Project Meta Share and the life saving work that they
(10:38):
are doing. If you want to check out their Instagram handle,
it's at Meta Share for Haiti and the four is
the number four And they recently put up a picture
of the ambulances they were able to buy because of
a lot of you that shopped last Mother's Day. They
were in desperate need of a new ambulance and the
fundraising went so while they were able to buy two.
(10:58):
And they're doing life saving work pregnant women and newborn babies,
new moms, new babies, and then women that are about
to give birth. They might be in risk or in danger.
If Project Meta Share was not there, they would maybe
not even survive childbirth. But now they have access to
medical care because Project Meta Share is in those areas
(11:18):
and they have those ambulances to get those moms to
the hospitals and to the clinics and different appointments that
are crucial to the mom and the baby. And so
I am super thankful for Project Meta Share. And if
you want to high in the America thing, it was
founded by a doctor, Dr Green, based out of Miami, Florida.
So there's your American tie in. And then there are
a lot of Haitians that work there as well. The
(11:40):
main organizations we work at there are the Orphanage, My
Life Speaks, and then Project Meta Share. And they have
Haitian employees. It's not like Americans just swoop in there
and take over everything and don't give Haitians the opportunity
to learn and grow and work and be a part
of the change in their own country. No, their Haitian employed,
so to me that is super important as well. So
(12:01):
all that to say, if you're shopping for Mother's Day,
there's items out available shop squad dot com. Okay, where
were we? Okay? What is currently one of your favorite
(12:23):
products of ICTs? So I feel like I gotta make
this fun Okay, wait, one of my favorite products? Well,
I'm going to tell you one that I'm obsessed with
right now, which is funny because I told you that
Mary gave me these concrete conversations that we're doing right now.
But she was the first person to tell me too
about these snail musin masks. I mean, I've heard about
(12:44):
them before. I'd even talked about them in the pile
in the Bobby Bones show. But this specific brand she
found and liked. There might be other ones out there
that are good, but this has five ratings on a
mask Amazon, like a sheep mask. It's like they're disposable
their one use. It's Snail Secretions. Okay, lost me, but
(13:04):
it's super moisturizing. Did you do it? Yes? And the
brand is c O s r X so cost r
X maybe is how they say it, so ce O
s r X. I'll add these to my Amazon page,
which you can find Snail Secretions my Amazon favorites at
Radio amy dot com. I need to go add this
(13:26):
right now because I've already told multiple friends about it.
Chills from that. They've all ordered it and they have
loved it, so I'll just leave it at that. And
it comes with tin sheets and it's about twenty five dollars,
so you know, do the math is is that to fifty?
(13:48):
So too? Is that yeah, yeah, yes. I was just
getting onto my daughter the other day because she was like,
you can't do anything without a calculator, can you? And
she's like, yes I can, and I'm like, no, you can't,
and yes, I was correct. I just checked myself. It
is two dollars and fifty cents per mask. But it's
like you're going to the spa for two dollars and
(14:09):
never went to a spot where they put snales secretions
on my face. Yeah, well, welcome to Hollywood. This is
what the stars are doing. It says here, simple ingredient
with glowing results. The snail musin has seven times higher
concentration than other snail musin masks that are on the market.
(14:30):
So this is clearly a quality mask, and I gotta
say I have been loving it. I might even treat
myself to a snail mask tonight. I'm going to pass. Okay,
So what is currently one of your favorite products or gadgets? Okay,
I have to Neither of them involve animal secretions. The
first one is after you started talking about i'm asks
(14:51):
and you put them in the freezer. Yeah, I started
doing it and I am obsessed with that. Well, to
clarify you, can keep them in the fridge. But if
if you want to pop them in the freezer, like
five minutes before you put them in your eyes to
do that, but don't keep him in the freezer because
then they'll be frozen. And I will say I did
get my boyfriend to do them as well, and he enjoyed.
Is this where Cat is announcing she has a boyfriend?
(15:12):
We're just gonna keep going. I mean Cat, to be fair,
we're pre taping this, and what if you'll break up?
I'm just kidding. Oh my god, are you giving me
bad juju that you can knock? Go on? Okay, bad
juju is not real. I obviously like him. Y'all are
going to be together. I wish you nothing but happiness.
(15:37):
Now if I say for the rest of your lives
and I hope that y'all get married, then you'll be like, stop,
don't jink sit so like, which are we jinxing? I
don't don't well that just say that that's good? Okay, yeah, okay.
If he's listening to this, and that might be weird
because he's like wolves, slow down and just started dating,
don't announce me. Um, you know, he would actually probably
love that anyway he would not like this part. He
did that I'm asked, and he liked it. So if
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there are men out or that are like, oh, I
would never do these products, you should give them a shot.
The other thing I will always say is one of
my favorite products that is not a new thing is
the Sainless steel face roller. That has always been a
thing that I'm obsessed with. But also side note, non
beauty product. Did you know that they made lighters like
I use it from my candle? Like you know a
lighter that you has the flame and you light your
(16:21):
can that are electric and you can charge them and
then you can light your candle with this electric lighter.
I have heard of that. Okay, well, but it was
new to me. Changed my life. I have lighters and
they always run out, and I'm like, i can't light
my candles and I'm afraid of matches and i can't
light a match. It's like a thing that I can't do.
Don't give me fun fact it brings me out. So
(16:42):
a kind of mine told me about a lighter you
charge it on your wall and whenever you want, you
can light a candle. I love that you can find
on Amazon. I've got another question I want to stay answer,
but I'm going to read an email from Caitlin. She's
from Missouri and it's regarding our girl, Megan, who micro
bladed our eyebrows, went my coming up touch up. She's
(17:02):
the best. I just had mine done a couple of
weeks ago at this point, and a touch up is good.
You're gonna feel so good after your touch up. But
Megan is the best when it comes to micro blading brows.
But she also does the three D nipple tattooing, and
that's I just wanted to give a little shout out
to Caitlin for sending in this note. Hey, Amy, I
can't thank you enough for having Megan on talking about
(17:22):
her three D nipple tattooing. Breast cancer and ovarian cancer
have run rampant and my family, my mom made the
decision to get her breasts removed, and I was so
excited to show her Megan's work. Her talent and passion
are obvious and how she speaks, and then once you
see her work, Wow, totally blown away. Rocks my socks off.
(17:43):
Thanks for all the goodness and honesty that you bring
to my life. Have a great day, So I'm gonna
pass this note along to Megan's who just wanted you
to know that this note will make Megan's day. But
I thought by sharing this email would be great because, Yeah,
I mean, if you're in the Nashville area or you've
had breast reconstruction and you've been through that whole thing,
(18:04):
look into Megan maybe doing your nipples, or if you
don't have eyebrows like me, then look into Megan for
doing some micro relating on your brows. And then also
this email serves as a reminder to get your mammograms
and do your breast exams in the shower. Like That's
something that I'm also committing to now that I'm forty
(18:26):
one and I'm trying to be responsible is shower exams
and trying to make sure that I just checked them
often and then once a year making sure that I'm
doing my mamogram appointment and my O B G y in. Oh,
I thought you were going to say your dermatology appointment. No,
I had not just recently told I did not know
that we were supposed to do that once a year. Yeah,
(18:48):
Cat was going to the dermatologists, and I said I
wasn't even going and I found something that ended up
being like a blood blister. It wasn't even oh, yeah,
you're right your mom's house and yes, And I was like,
you need to go, and then cats like, no, you
don't have to go over a year and I said, yes,
you do, and then you kind of argued with me
about it until you googled it and you realized I
was right, So go to the dermatologist as well. Go
(19:11):
to the dermatologist. Have you heard of pizza toast, like
toast that you put like sauce on Yeah. Haley Bieber
shared it on TikTok. I just didn't know. I saw
people talking about that. I've never had it. Should make it.
You just put cheese, sauce and pizza toppings on bread
and then you toast. It can be any bread. But
it's been viral for a little bit. Sour dough is
one of the most popular things to you, so I
(19:33):
was just sharing that in case you want to, like,
here's my thing. Would we think that was as revolutionary
if it wasn't Haley Bieber that made this go viral.
I pretty much like to do anything, Haley Bieber says,
like I was shopping at Aritzia Nashville. Finally got in Aritzia.
Have you been Yes, and it's too overwhelming. I can't
go in. It's like Zara. I can't do it. Aritzia
(19:53):
is less overwhelming than Zara. But they have fifty million
versions of the same thing. Okay, black tank top, they
have five. I need to go to a store. They
have two black tank tops. You can have this one
or this one. I'm like, Okay, I like that one.
I agree. I get easily overwhelmed. But I will say
at Zara, I can walk in and I in about
two seconds, I turned around and walk out Aritzia. I
took the challenge. And I gotta say, the girls that
(20:13):
work there, they're like cheerleaders. The dressing rooms they don't
have mirrors inside the curtain. They have like communal mirrors outside,
so you have to walk outside of the dressing room
to check yourself out that. But then every girl that
works there is like, oh, those looks so good or
that looks so great? What do they ever say? And
I wouldn't go with that one. Yeah, okay, because I
(20:34):
told me that I should opt for the other pants
instead of the others, you know what I mean? Like
they were honest. I went there once to get a
dress for something, and I was really distraught that there
was no mirror in the dressing room, because I don't
if I don't know what something looks like, I don't
want to walk out into the middle of the store.
I know that part felt weird. I tried on these
white pants and I felt like they were kind to
(20:56):
see through. But then I was like, oh no, no,
and I had to go out there to see that.
Keep the communal mirror, keep the cheerleading, just give me
a mirror inside of my safe. I wonder what that's about.
I don't hope it's not like a budget thing. Or
maybe it's so you didn't have to come out so
then that people are like, oh, that looks so good,
and then you feel like you have to buy it. Maybe.
I mean, I will say Aritzia is way more aesthetically
(21:17):
pleasing than Zara. Yeah, although I like both. Zara is
a little bit. It's it's a step up in the
price point. It's still not crazy expensive. I mean it
can be. I guess it just depends. Like they had
some items that were priced a lot higher, but it's
like Zara. But elevated Aritzia is. Yeah, it's it's more
expensive for sure. I guess just the stuff I got
(21:38):
didn't seem that bad. But there I saw some pricier stuff,
but I just didn't get it. But anyway, all this
to say were talking about well because Hailey Bieber one
time she was wearing like some sweatshirt from Aritzia or something.
And then I was in New York for Mary's birthday
and that's the first time I ever went into an
Aritzia store. And I think Mary said that story like
Haley Bieber was just wearing the say that I was, like,
(21:58):
she was let me I five to be Haley Weeper.
I don't know why. I mean, again, I'm forty one.
Why do I want to be Justina on your Haley
Beaver sweatshirt that you got and make some pizza toast,
take a picture of it and tagger, okay, because she'll
probably see that for sure. I got this the cat
(22:20):
sweatshirt that Jennifer Garner put up on Instagram. No, I
don't think so I tagged her hoping that it would
start our friendship and she didn't see it. But it's
the sweatshirt where the there's a hole in your cat
like sits in the sweatshirt and sticks their head out
and you can walk around with them. And maybe if
(22:41):
everybody tags Jennifer Garner in that for you, then maybe
she'll be like, yeah, is Amy girl. I have another
email from Desiree. She said, Hey me, I want to
start by saying how much I love the Bobby Bones
show in your four Things podcast. I greatly appreciate your
willingness to be vulnerable with all the listeners and share
all the things that you've been through. I was listening
to outweigh and realize that I have some disordered eating patterns.
(23:03):
I'm also struggling with fertility, and I would like to
see if nutrition could help in this area. But I
want to be cautious about what accounts I follow and
how I manage all of this. Do you have any
accounts that you recommend related to infertility and nutrition? Also,
what book was it that you and your husband read
that helped you decide on adoption? Appreciate your help, Desiree. Okay,
I would be cautious of following any accounts really that
(23:27):
aren't licensed medical professionals in this field, Like if you
are following account I don't personally have any that I
follow with the infertility anymore, because I that was years
ago and I'm not trying to get pregnant any longer.
But I know that I did things back then when
I was trying to get pregnant because I heard, oh,
this person does this, and this person and that and
(23:48):
read this book and change their diet. And that's when
I went gluten free, dairy free, all the freeze. I
did all of it. I already had disordered eating behaviors
before that, but it was almost like, under the disguise
of fertility struggle, I had an excuse to not eat
what everyone else was eating. And I loved having that excuse,
(24:09):
and I will say I was pretty strict with it,
and I didn't get pregnant. Everybody's body is different, so
I would just be weary of anybody that's claiming if
you eat this way, it can help you get pregnant,
or if you start getting colonics all the time, it'll
help you get pregnant, because I did that too. And
then the woman that was giving me the colonics told
me that I need to stop using dryer sheets because
that was causing my infertility, and I was like, what what.
(24:32):
I love dryer sheets, and I mean literally I was,
but I did. I was like, oh, like as this
woman sticking a tube up my butt to clean out
my cul in I didn't get rid of the dry sheets. Yeah.
And she also told me the airplanes were poisoning us.
I mean it was a whole thing. So I was like, okay.
So I would just be weary of anybody that's trying
(24:53):
to pitch something on you as like a sure fire
way to get pregnant if it involves food and eliminating food,
adding food, different things. That said, I don't know if
you have the resources to work with a registered dietitian
that could work with you, maybe there could be some things.
I don't know. That's my recommendation. I don't have any
(25:15):
accounts for you, and then I would feel weird giving
you an account to follow with that and specific of
a need because also there's so many accounts now where
everybody's an expert on everything. And I know this is
something that bothers you Cat, because Cat actually hasn't done
a lot of the well, all the work you're still
continue to work on yourself and your education, and even
(25:36):
you just did that eating disorder. Of course the other
day it's like a two day training. Yeah, because when
you are licensed, you have to do continuing educations. We
have to continue to educate ourselves because things change and
we learn new stuff and just to keep you sharp.
But then there's some people that are just like I
did I read this book and a decided and or
I had this experience and I decided to be an expert.
Doesn't work that way, It doesn't. So you just said
(25:58):
it's beautiful. Well, I'm sorry, desiree, that you're going through this,
because I know that it is hard. But I will
just speak to having had an eating disorder or disordered
behaviors and then starting to adopt a certain lifestyle. It
didn't get me pregnant, but it did dig me into
a deeper hole with my eating disorder because, let me
(26:19):
tell you, I still even have to rewire the part
of my brain that's like it's okay, you can eat gluten,
because that is the book that set me off to
where I fear dairy and gluten. I had a book
about gluten and like athletics that I thought was the Bible,
but I was like, if I eat gluten, now will
I be able to run like, yes, actually, it's very helpful. Yeah,
(26:40):
so it's fine. And then the book that we read
that helped us decide on adoption is called Adopted for Life.
So if you and your husband want to check that out,
that was very helpful read, especially for my husband when
it came to like getting him a percent on board
with adoption, because we both came to that conclusion in
(27:02):
our own time. It wasn't like right away we both
were like, oh, we're going to adopt, but I had
to come to terms but that we might not have
a baby. And it took him longer to know that,
like he might not father his own children with his
own body. I say that because children, so he but
(27:25):
now that we've been parents to these, to our kids
for the last four years, like now he would just
he feels the love for them just as he would
any kid. And it's it's just like when a baby
is born, like if you adopt, like suddenly you're like,
oh my gosh, I'm a parent, Like what is happening?
And so you instantly you feel that love, that connection.
I almost said instantly, but then I stopped myself because
(27:48):
for some people it's not instantly and that's okay, it's okay,
it's okay. That is okay, you're not alone. Okay, before
we go, cat one last question. This is a one
two or three. This is a one A level one
from Concrete Conversations. Have you ever accidentally shoplifted? If so,
did you make the return so accidentally? Oh, like accidentally,
(28:09):
like they gave you something for five purpose? Yeah, when
I when I was in like fourth or fifth grade,
you know, you have those, um, what were they called,
like Scholastic book fairs, so your class gets to go
and like see it and then you can decide if
you want to buy something or not. However, well, I
think that maybe my mom was like, you're not getting
anything because I just wanted like the cool pencil pouches
(28:32):
with the erasers and the paper clips and stuff. I
didn't want the books, and so my mom wouldn't probably
buy it for me. I don't know if I asked
or not. So I stole an eraser out of one
of the packets. I didn't take the whole thing. I
just took one eraser and it was probably like a
watermelon shaped eraser or something like that. Well, I didn't
bring it back. I kept it do you still have it? No,
(28:53):
I don't, but if I had it now, i'd take
it back. I stole candy. I don't know how old
I was, but I wanted those Reese's cups. We were
checking out at the store and my mom went by
them for me, so I stuck them down my pants,
and then we were walking out to the parking lot
they fell out. But also, your pants is the worst
place to put it chocolate. Well, I know, but they
fell out and she made me return them. Oh so
you didn't get to enjoy them. But most recently, I
(29:15):
stole chicken because Stevens and I were at Target. You know,
we got all the targeting type things, but then we
went over to the grocery section and then I added
some things to the bottom of the cart, some chicken breasts,
and we checked out, but I never pulled the chicken
from the bottom of the cart. And we got all
the way out to the car and we were unloading
and there was the chicken. And it was late and
(29:36):
I was tired, and I did not want to go back,
but we did because I had to show my son
we don't steal chicken. Well, I wasn't going to take
it anyway, but it just was the thing. So we
went back in, we paid for the chicken, and I
will say I don't have a memory of something like that,
but I do know that there has been times where
(29:57):
stores have like accidentally not charged you for something, and
a lot of times it accidentally shop lifted. But they
are so appreciative when you come back that I think
a lot of them is They're like, oh, I don't
worry about that was our fault, but they just appreciate you,
even like going in and be like, oh my gosh,
this was missed. So the more you know. Okay, real quick,
before we go, I realized that we were talking about Megan.
(30:17):
I did not say where to find her, and I'll
just give out her website. It's beauty by Megan dot
com m E E G E N is how you
spell Megan, and then her instagram I think is the
same thing, beauty dot by dot Megan. And she's a
(30:38):
cosmetic tattoo artist highly recommended. Yeah, she's great. Okay, Well
that is a wrap on today's episode. If you want
to send us questions for the fifth Thing or emails,
we haven't been getting to a lot of them lately,
but I'm trying to throw them in some episodes, but
I kind of like the casual vibe. It's just chatting
with cat and then seeing where it resonates with you
(30:59):
and what kind of calm versations it might lead to
with you and your friends or with us. So make
sure you reach out let us know four things with
Amy Brown at gmail dot com. If it's for the
fifth thing, put fifth thing in the subject line. If
it's for the listener, Q and A, put listener Q
and A. If it's for four things, whatever, just use
the subject lind to please tell me what it is
that you are wanting to reach out about. And Thursday,
(31:23):
my Shaun any Quist episode with my sister should be
airing this Thursday, So hope you all enjoy that. And yeah,
I have a great rest of your day. And thank you.
If you listen to the last SEWS episode, you know,
and that's our show, thank you. Is that what we're saying?
Did you say together? Yeah? One, two, three, and then
(31:43):
that's our show. Thank you. Have the same inflection work
on it. Okay, well, I say, and that's our show.
And then we both say thank you, Okay, thank you,
thank you, thank you, And all right, well, and that's
our show, thank you. I can't do you can. I
got it. We'll practice it off air and then we'll
come back next week like ready to get one more
(32:04):
time now and all right, well okay, I hope you
have a great day and look at you when you do.
All right, I hope you have a great day. And
that's our show. Thank you.
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