High School: Reminiscing & Reunion Tips. The Enneagram: Wounds From Each Number. Confidence Boosters: With Special Appearance From Bobby Bones. Meri 2.0: Follow Up Chat About All The Things. (#21)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, a little food for yourself life. Ain't Oh it's
pretty Bay, It's pretty beautiful than that. A little moth

(00:29):
kicking four. Pretty excited for this week's episode because I've
got Mary coming back, a little follow up with her
on some stuff that we didn't get to touch on
last week when she was on or maybe like based
on comments and emails or notes we were getting, were
thought and maybe we should follow up on this because
a lot of people want to go to Haiti like

(00:51):
we did and figure out how to do it. So
we share a little bit about that, but also about
how it's important to get involved where you are in
your community. You don't have to travel, you know, to
Kenya or Haiti or another state, Like, there's stuff that
needs to be done probably right where you live. And
I say that to myself too, and Mary and I

(01:13):
kind of did it as a reminder and encouragement to
ourselves too, because we haven't been able to get to
Haiti in a while and it's kind of frustrating us
a little bit. But we can also get involved right
right where we live. So I sit down with her,
and then my best friend from high school, Andrea, she
was in town also and Mary was so I did

(01:34):
a little segment with her about our upcoming high school reunion.
We have our twenty year reunion coming up. Oh my goodness.
So we kind of reminisce about our high school days.
I share my the worst thing that happened to me
in high school, Like I had a pretty traumatic moment
with the next boyfriend and it scarred me big time.
And I don't I don't even know what brought that up.

(01:56):
I think it was during one of the we talk
about tips for if you have to tend a high
school reunion, like advice. It's like stuff we just found online.
I think one of the things was like let go
of like a grudge, like if don't take those grudges
with you to the high school reunion. It was high school,
let it go. And it kind of made me think of,
like a the worst thing that happened to me in
high school. So I share that, and to this day,

(02:17):
I'm like, I cannot believe that that happened. I have
the indiogram dude on again, Hunter Mobli. He was on
a previous episode talking about the indiogram and he's an
Indiagram teacher and if you're not familiar with the Instagram.
It's we go over that, you know when he's on.
But it's just a way to kind of put your

(02:37):
personality in a little category that is easy to better
understand who you are as a being and and um,
what makes you tick? And so um he talks about
the wounds from each number. There's nine numbers in the indiogram,
so we just quickly run through that one through nine,
so that should be interesting. And then I have some

(02:59):
confidence boosters with a special appearance from Bobby Bones because
he happened to walk in the room while I was recording.
So um, you know, sometimes we always need that extra
little confidence, you know, that little extra boost of confidence.
So I give you some tips on that. And then yeah,
like I said, Bobby walked in, so he gave some
advice as well. And that's that's today's menu. So I

(03:21):
hope you all are excited for today's episode like I am.
And you know, if you ever have episode suggestions or uh,
you know, ideas for people to have on the podcast,
make sure you'll send those to me. Four Things with
Amy Brown at gmail dot com. First, I have my

(03:44):
best friend from high school, Andrea here with me, and
we met when we were thirteen. I maybe you were fourteen.
I was thirteen. Yeah, you had just turned fourteen, so
I was thirteen. But we were friends for a really
long time. And something crazy that we have coming up
is our twenty year high school reunion, which we went

(04:05):
to Austin High. Shout out go Maroons, Loyal for Loyal forever.
Andrea played volleyball. I was on drill team, but then
I quit, and then I tried out for a cheerleader.
And you were a cheerleader. You cheered in my game,
But why was I a cheerleader? I was not good.
Yes you were, You're not. You were good at volleyball,

(04:25):
but you like played club volleyball. I was that person.
I never really knew what I wanted to do, so
I just kept trying things. But I was trying in
high school, like even volleyball. Played in junior high. But
then like everybody at Austin High played like club, I didn't.
I just played in school like at school, and I
thought maybe I should try out for the volleyball team.
And then I went and I looked at some of
the people practicing, and I was like, never mind, I'm

(04:46):
not good enough. So I did drill team because my
sister did it, And I think they let me on
the team because my sister, she was an officer and
she was really good. But I mean, you were good.
I was not. I was in the back row of everything.
If I even made times, you didn't make the dance,
he had to try out for the specific dance. If
I made it, Um, I was in the back. And

(05:06):
then there's all these rules, like you had to be
on time and if you were late, you had to
kick for demerits. No practice was really really early in
the morning. You couldn't talk. We would stretch for thirty
minutes in silence, and if you talked, then you got
demerits and you had to kick for them. Like I
kicked for demerits more than I can't remember you kicking
a lot, like you had to do Mary sitting in

(05:29):
here to asking questions. You had to kick for demerits,
like do I don't know, five kicks because you were bad,
Like it's like a push up, but kick. Yeah, But
I think I kicked more for demerits than I did
in any actual routine performance anywhere. So anyway, need let's
say I moved on from drill team I ran across

(05:50):
country and that was super fun. Fun fact, Jenna Bush
was my running partner, which now I have. I don't
even know what she's up to other than just seeing
her on the Today Show. She went to our high school,
Jenna and Barbara, and they were very normal. It was
just kind of weird sometimes because they would try to
drive themselves to school. Well they did, they had a
car that they shared. But then like you would see
secret service like sometimes behind them or like if their

(06:12):
parents would come up to the school. There would be
like secret service everywhere. But it was afore George Bush
was president. He was governor of Texas at the time.
So and then Gary Clark Jr. He played a show
here in Nashville. He's like a really famous, like guitar
senior player. Now that came from our high school. And
then and then we came from Amy and Andrea. You're

(06:33):
listening to us, especially me, I don't trying to think
if there's any other famous people at our school. I mean,
we're not famous. I'm not talking about us. There was
that guy Benjamin Mackenzie who was on the o C. Yeah, yeah,
we was a great above us. Really yeah, google it
in Django, Oh, Django Walker. He's one of our best friends.

(06:54):
He's um a musician now and then his dad is
also a musician, Jerry Jeff Walker. That's what really got
us into the Texas country music scene. Like if there
was a Pat Green concert between ages seventeen to twenty,
like we were there, like my first dance to my husband,
Like we danced to Pat Green. Crazy memories. So anyway,

(07:16):
speaking to memories, Mary and I are about to go
back to our twenty union. But Mary can come. Mary.
Mary's just sitting right here. I mean Andrea and um,
we we're getting prepared. Like the vote came through. They
put up a Facebook poll and they had everybody vote
on what date everybody wanted it, and it's this fall.
It's like in October or so. And we thought maybe

(07:39):
some of you listening have reunions coming up. So we've
got tips for attending your high school reunion. So what's
the first one? Okay, So the first one I have
is smile right, Yeah, if you're nervous, it says nothing
covers nervous shitter is better than a friendly face. Okay,
what's the next one? Mix and mingle with different people.
So don't limit yourself to just the people you hung

(08:03):
out with in high school. Yeah, you never know like
what people have been up to and what you could
We're not in high school anymore, Yeah, coming gol. What
else help others? If you see somebody kind of standing alone,
go up and talk to them. Yeah, yeah, that's these
are good tips. Yes, even not if it's at your
high school union maybe or it's something else. If someone's alone, yeah,
go talk to that. I mean, I feel like we're

(08:24):
all a little nervous to go like anywhere sometimes well
and just especially to a reunion, you have to kind
of go reflect and like go back to your past,
and that might be nervous. Which speaking of my most
painful high school memory, do you know what it is?
I think of the most painful thing that happened to me? Yeah,
I was, Do you know what it is? I think

(08:45):
what you tell me? I don't want to put out there.
I do won't say names. But when my car, my
car got keyed, Yeah, and they put um, they put
the word horror, but just they tell H O R E.
And we know who it was and it was the
next boyfriend, and it was very it was so awful

(09:08):
but we were all sitting the night at a friend's
house and we woke up the next morning and I
went outside and my car was the only one that
had it got keyed, and my dad he was so awesome,
like he got it painted over like a s P.
And but yeah, that was really I remember going to
church and I was just bawling, crying the whole time.
My mom was like, had I think the church pray

(09:30):
for me? Because it was traumatizing, Like I'm sure I
have wounds that come out now that I don't even
know that are associated with that, or like how I
handled people or what people think of me, because I
was like, is that the perceptive? But I but he
also put he also keyed in booi which was another
high school that was in our area, because I think
after he keyed you know, h O R E, which

(09:53):
he can't spell clearly, but he thought, oh shoot, I
better tag or carbon booie. So and then he actually
did brame it on somebody else that went from their
high school, and I believed him and I thought it
was that other person. And I called and I confront
of that other person, They're like, Amy, it wasn't me.
I didn't do it and then later we found out
that it was him and gosh, so if we see

(10:13):
him standing alone, I would still say, you know what,
I've forgiven him. I moved on. Hopefully he's in a
better place. But that's something where uh that was everyone
in the school started knew about it, and it just, uh,
that was so bad. So anyway, what's another thing on there?
I hate that on the list I have here too too.
A tip that I saw is to reconnect with some
old friends prior to the reunion, so it's not that

(10:35):
awkward that day. Um, So I'm glad we have kept
our reconnection reconnized. But maybe just like you could start
like a like sense MS or text thread and I
know we I'm on a text stard with some people
in my school that are already talking about the reunion.
It is kind of getting me more excited. And um, Andrea,
I need to add you to that text. But Mary

(10:56):
brought up how reunions these days now are different because
of things like Instagram and Facebook, and you feel like
you know what's going on in people's lives were as
back in the day, like when our parents had reunions.
It genuinely was like whoa like you the same? You
look so different. But now it's like I just saw
your story that you post on Instagram about your whole

(11:18):
day and I watched every minute of it. What else
is up there? Okay? Another one we have is being
respectful of everyone, so not telling like embarrassing stories you
know with them, you know, let them bring those things up. Um. Oh,
this one's kind of funny, like about remember that people

(11:40):
aged differently. Keep in mind, not everyone's going to look
the same about other people's weight gain or wrinkle. I
would never do that. I mean, what we're not. I
guess I guess some people do need that tip. Maybe
maybe for guys, it's like like you wouldn't think they
would maybe take it as person only girls would, but

(12:02):
maybe just keep all those comments yourself, Like, oh like
if the star quarterback was amazing shape and all of
a sudden he walks in, he kind of has a
little beer belly, Like, keep it to yourself. Dad bos
are in. Yeah, people, According to surveys, people love dad bods.
Um stifle the bragging. Oh well, so Lunchbox has his
twenty year a union coming up because he graduated from

(12:23):
Anderson the same that we graduated from Austin High and
he wants to rent a Lamborghini too. That might be
calm down, but he wants not to do. He wants
people to think that he's like made it big time.
But yeah, limit the bragging, like if you've had some success,
like you don't have to yeah, or if you're living
in like a mansion in the Mediterranean, maybe don't bring

(12:45):
that up. Yeah, or unless you want to invite everybody. Yeah,
it does say dress well, dress appropriately, but dress well.
Like when you look good, you feel good. Right, Yeah,
that's what I like to say. Dion Sandras said it
for first and then I hope I paraphrase him. If
you look good, you feel good. I feel good, you
do good. If you do good, they pay good. Yeah.

(13:09):
So I'm a teacher. Does that still? Um? So? I
Another tip I saw on the page was select your
outfit well in advance so that you don't add stress
the day of I mean, how cool for some people
going back if they're single and they like get reconnected
with a high school flame or something that would be cool.

(13:31):
This other tip here on this website I'm on says
skin the yearbook and social media prior to arrival to
help you help yourself remember classmates faces. They said, it's
rough when you're staring someone in the face and they
look familiar, but you cannot remember their name. Hopefully we're
gonna have name tags. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm not
the best at names. I try and work on that.

(13:53):
So yeah, we better have. Another tip is let it go,
attend the reunion with an open mind, and don't hang
on to old grudges. After twenty years, people change, which
is what I was saying. If I run into that
ex boyfriend and be like, how are you? Yeah, yeah,
have you learned how to spell yet? Yeah? Just kidding.
I won't say that. There is there any other tips
on your page. So limit alcohol consumption. If you do

(14:16):
plan on drinking, take it easy because there's nothing worse
than drinking too much. You don't that person at the reunion. Yeah, Oh,
avoid conflicts. So if we do run into that friend exactly,
so I'm saying I've let it go. Yeah, he's forgiven.
Or somebody you might have had a grudge with or
on in high school's tend to let that go. Yeah,

(14:38):
definitely definitely let it go. Oh, and have good manners,
good man for telling people attending their twenty year high
school reunion to have good manners, proper etiquette? Did you
know right when you sit down? Not that you would
have this at your um at your reunion, but if
you're sitting down to a meal and there's a napkin
on the table, you're supposed to sit down and immediately,

(15:00):
but the napkin in your lap? Did you all know that? Yeah?
I mean, Mary, did you know that napkin on the
last I thought it was right when you sat down,
is it not? I thought it was. Yeah. I think
you do it because you were told at one point
it was right, probably like a cotillion or something. Did
you do Catillian? I did? Did you know? Me? I

(15:23):
don't know. Did I don't know? I know. I think
my brother did, But I didn't. I mean I did
it younger. I didn't do it later in life. A
lot of people from our high school, though, did it
all the way, like they were debutantes and stuff. Were
you a debutante? Is that a thing in California? It's
a big thing in Texas, it's I'm pretty sure. One

(15:43):
boyfriend didn't really, I know for sure. His grandma didn't
like the fact that I wasn't. That's a debutante because
when I met her, she asked me when my coming
out party was, and I was like, what, I don't
want I'm coming like coming out as a woman, like
my my debutante ball. So I didn't do that. Yeahah,

(16:06):
I do know that. In Austin it was a big
thing too, but I know and Waco it's big and
corpus like the Rose Parade that's where like the Rose
Queen is presented. Yeah, I wasn't, but I did when
I was younger. For whatever reason, my mom did have
me in Cotillion. I thought that's where I learned the

(16:27):
the napkin thing, but I know that that's also where
I learned how you're supposed to eat soup like you're
not supposed to take the spoon towards you when you're
scooping soup. You scoop soup away and then brush your
spoon up against the bowl to make sure you catch
all anything that would drip off, and then bring it
to your mouth. Did y'all know that? I am just full?

(16:48):
How do you even eat like chicken tortilla soup doing that?
I don't know what my kids maybe if there is Yeah,
they need, they need right now, I do right now,
I'll go with them like they oh gosh, because they
grew up in an orphanage and there was they would
eat outside. They've gotten so much better. Yeah, but they

(17:10):
used to be able to just like spit food out
right then and there. I mean, I don't know why
that was allowed, but it was so when we would
go out to eat or when they first got here.
If my daughter puts anything in her mouth that she
didn't like, she literally would just spit it out on
the floor inside. But it was hers. It was just natural.
She wasn't doing anything wrong, but we had to teach her, like,

(17:31):
you don't do that. And now it's like, you know,
if you need to pass gas, please excuse yourself from that.
He's trained like that. If they don't always, but sometimes
they're supposed to. Yeah, they do say anytime they want
to leave the table, they have to say, may I
be excused? And they're really good about that. And we've

(17:53):
told them if they can start nailing yes, ma'am and
yes sir, and no sir, and yes like manners, ma'am, manners,
the manners, if they can nail that, like really, it'll
help us because there's a lot of education things on there.
But they really want an iPad. Right now. They have
Amazon Fire tablets, which are great, but I feel like
the way they're progressing in certain apps and FaceTime with

(18:14):
like family and like a like an iPad would be
really great. But since they want one so bad, we
can't just give it to them. They need to earn it.
But so we've told them, if y'all for three months
in a row, start anytime, you've got three months to
not mess up on your If I say excuse me Stevenson,

(18:35):
then he says yes, ma'am or whatever the case manners
wherever they're somebody exactive, you something, and yes so, but
they can't do it. They can do it, they have
gotten down. They'd be excused, but that's about it. Otherwise
they think that saying yes, yes there so hard. Well,
it is hard if you're not trained. How do I

(18:57):
train them? I work with kindergarten and first graders. Well,
so tell me how I get my children to exactly
what you're doing over and over and over again? Would
they do it? Sometimes they're just not consistent? So how
do I get them to bill consistent? No, they're not
getting there. I'm just what I'm saying, is we even no? No, Yeah,
you want to keep them. You praise them every time

(19:18):
they do it right for a long time. It's going
to feel like overkill, But that's my method. There's a
lot of methods you know, to do this. But when
I you know, if you're teaching manners, then you have
to be polite about it, you know what I mean. Like,
so when I'm constantly I sometimes I wonder where they
pick things up like duh or shut up or and

(19:38):
it's because oh yeah, like kids are like the most
impatient versions of yourself looking right back at you, right.
I know when Stacia rolls her eyes and like, don't
rull your eyes. But then I'm like, shoot, did I
just run my eyes? Um? Okay, So yeah, just keep
praising them every time they do it. And then for example,
like when I give something to my own kiddos or

(20:01):
my students, if they don't say thank you, I remind
them what do you say when something? You know, when
somebody gives you something, thank you? Thank you? Okay, that's
a good tip. All right, Well, thank you Andrea for
coming on my podcast to talk about our twenty year
high school reunion. You're welcome and thank you for coming
to Nashville to hang out for a little bit. And
I'll see you in Austin when I come there to visit.

(20:22):
But then all for sure see you at the twenty
year high What are we going to dance to? Like?
What's our song? High school? What was I mean? Dancing wise?
I don't know, but Strawberry Wine. That was a good one.
So school, I think what was big Oh, Puffy and
Mace or Return of the Mac. You know, I don't Yeah,

(20:45):
I know what you're singing, but I didn't know if
that was from high school? With one? Oh Allflower's Jewel, Atlantis, Morrissett,
stuff like that, Britney Spears yep, like that was our
oh in sync, Christina Aguilera all our senior Yeah, good times.

(21:06):
Oh you used to listen to um Dave Matthews bands
and then Sublime, Sublime sings. I don't practice center, Yeah,
I don't got no christ of all that had a
million dollars, Uh, I'd spend it all. It's that good
time and that's something that you found but about But

(21:31):
I really want to know that, baby, But I really
want to say, like for I listen to that a lot. Yeah,
my husband listens to so Yeah Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Were they eight? I don't know. I was never into them.
I mean, I know they're good, but I don't know
if that. I don't know if some music is like
specifically from high school or I just listened to it.

(21:52):
I know I listened to a lot of George Straight. Yeah,
we did. We always carry with me. I used to
I'm not going to name names, but I used to
put that song on and I could get home a
couple of different ways. But I really had a crush
on somebody and I every time that song. I played
that song a lot on my CD player, and I

(22:13):
would put that song on repeat driving home, hoping that
one day maybe he would sing about carrying my love
with him. But I would drive home doing the same note.
He wasn't, but I would drive home away that I
knew that. He sort of drove those roads a lot,
hoping I would always pass him, and sometimes I would,
and then I would like, casually, way is it? I can't.

(22:34):
I'm not gonna say um um writing it down. Yeah,
good times, but I anytime I hear carrying remember carrying
your love with me. I still I think of him,
and I think of how lame I was driving down
that road hoping I would maybe see him, and then
I would and I would casually wave, and I'd be like,

(22:56):
oh my gosh, so dumb, Like I literally to go home.
It's so weirdly outside right now. That's what I let
me pull over. I never take this road. This is
so weird. I do remember walks in my neighborhood. Yeah,
and we'd walk by you lived in Travis Country. Another
my other boyfriend. Yeah, we would walk by his house.

(23:19):
I wonder what he's up to, but he's not in
our grade. We had a phase. We both dated younger guys.
So they we were we were younger. Wait were we
seniors and they were juniors and we were juniors and
they were sophomores. Juniors. Yes, we were the original yea

(23:39):
cougar town. But you dated um, well you can say,
we can say now it's been You were dating this
guy David, and I was dating Zack. They were younger
than us, but they were cool. Yeah they were. And
then actually we broke up and I was not with him.
And then when it came time for prom, nobody asked

(23:59):
me to we end up prom because nobody asked me
to prom. I had no prom date. So where do
you no prom date? Maybe? Well, what we had we
had no prom day, and I remember having to go.
I remember calling him and being like, I it went
down like that. So we broke up and I didn't

(24:21):
his dad was a pastor. I didn't know if his
dad was going to let him go to prom with me,
but so I thought it would be respectful if I
went over to his house and asked him. Basically, I
remember going over to his house and like we were
sitting up in like their bonus room or something, and
I was like, we go to problem with me or something.

(24:43):
I think that's how it went down. And then it
was just awkward because yeah he did, but I think
he liked sort of liked somebody else at the time,
another friend of mine. I'll remember we got our prom
dresses together in Boston, but that was not planned. I
wasn't planned. We just ran into each other and he
was in Boston visiting her family and I was in
Boston visiting my brother, and we were on spring break

(25:05):
and we both were at the mall. But we had
not talked that day. Think of how big the city
of Boston is and how many places there are to shop,
and my sister and I decided to go. We were
going to go to I don't know, Lord and Taylor,
a couple of the places, but also in this mall,
they had a gap, which like, why would you need
to go to the gap when you're in Boston because
they have the gap in Austin. So I'm in the

(25:26):
dressing room at the gap and I in the dressing
room like across in the same like right next to you.
We heard each other's voice and we opened the dressing
room doors and we walked out and were like, what
you're doing here? Like it was so random. I mean,
think of how serendipitous it was meant that is that
the word? I don't know, but we were like we

(25:50):
were just two friends from Austin Gap, vacationing in Boston
and we run into each other, Yeah, checking out what
are you doing? Like why are you at the gap?
But then yeah we did. I got I ended up
finding my prom dress in Boston. I regret my prom dress.
Yeah you had it, you had a great it was

(26:10):
my look, just like wouldn't let me get like it
was very conservative and had a lot of flowers. It
should have been we were, but I wanted like a
really short one that was like mine was long. Andrew
had like a huge phase. Is weird? Hey not? And
if not, you weren't doing anything, but you liked to
go to the club and like where manimal but shout

(26:34):
out six Street And she grew out of that phase.
So she's now teaching your children. Just she's different. Let's
hit the switch and okay, we're done. Goodbye, good luck
that you're a reunion and whatever else we just talked about.
Hunter Mobile is back with me, which I'm super excited about.

(26:57):
He was on I mean, it wasn't that just a
couple of weeks ago talking about the angiogram. He's an
indiogram teacher and really really knowledgeable. If you're not familiar
with the iniogram, just quickly give your quick definition of it. Yes,
So the intagram is a personality tool and it is
just think about you know, Myers Brigg and disk and

(27:18):
strength finder, all those tools, but it's a it's a
wisdom tool and so it talks to us not about
behavior but about motivation. Right, So we sort of broke
down my number because right before I recorded with him.
He met with me and my husband and he gave
me my number and my husband's and that helps us
better understand each other in a relationship. And you can

(27:38):
kind of once you know the numbers, you can be
like huh, that helps you understand the personality. You're like, Okay,
that's why they're acting that way, and this is how
I can react, so that it helps avoid Yeah, it
kind of de escalates sometimes conflict. Yet just by having
a common language for personality, I think the Instagram tool
is great for relationships, can be great in the workplay.

(28:00):
So if you aren't familiar with it, you can learn more.
Give your website. Yes, so my website is aniogram hunter
dot com and you can find you can follow me
on Facebook. I post a video every week. There's lots
of resources there to just kind of start to get
more familiar with the indiogram. So boom, there's that if
you want to get more familiar. But today I'm having
you on because after I had you on to discuss

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me and my number or you know what we discovered
that day, me being a three and kind of what
that means. And I'm still exploring it and trying to
discover and figure out. And even some people that I've
talked to that or my friends, but I mean they're
not Instagram experts, but they do the Instagram and I
tell I'm like, well apparently I'm at three, and they're like,
huh really, which is always like the weird thing when

(28:44):
people that have then they're like okay, and then you're like,
why is that bad? But they think that that's bad
that I'm at three. I even had some listeners that
listen to the podcast and they're like, I never would
have pinned you as a three, and I was like, well,
they're all equally good and equally bad. I know some
of the negatives on the three. I'm like, oh shoot,

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but you got to look at both sides of it,
and maybe not every single thing of a number is
going exactly apply to you. But you know, I did
get a lot of questions from people, so I thought
I would have you on too quickly, and there's nothing
really super quick about the Intagram, although people can go
and take an Instagram test online pretty quickly. But something

(29:26):
about hearing more and learning more and taking in information
that is verbally said what you're really into. So I
thought we could have you break down one through nine,
because there's that's how many numbers they're on the indiogram,
and you discussed us or you suggested we do the
wounds for each number. So I'm kind of I know

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that sounds so explain to us what that might mean.
And then we're going to get in through one into
one through nine. Okay. So the indiogram, it talks about
every one of us, based on our number, has a
wound that we carry from childhood. And I know that
sounds kind of strange, and everybody holding hold on with us.
We're doing a little inner child work. But this is

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what distinguishes the ineogram from a behavior oriented tool because
the wounds that we carry from childhood, they inform all
of our life experience, all of our life choices, all
of the decisions that we make. So it's great in
the inngiogram to give some just language to those wounds.
And it's sort of a first place where we can
start to distinguish our own number. And so I'll just

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kind of run through the you know, let me say
to the wounds and that we get in childhood. Who
knows where in the world these come from. Sometimes when
I teach the inngeogram, it's very easy for somebody to
see how their caregivers kind of set the table for
these wounding messages. Some people, they had caregivers that we're
putting very different messages into the world. They had great childhoods,

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but still somewhere inside of them kind of came this
wounding message. So that's where the angiogram usually begins, is
discovering and and talking about these wounds. So are you
still with me? I'm with you. I'm with you, Okay,
So you want to do we got And so when

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we talk about ones, ones carry a wound that says
you should be able to be perfect, you shouldn't make mistakes,
and you will be loved so long as you conform
your behavior to a rigid set of guidelines established by
the powers that be. So that's a big thing. So

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so notice that I said a lot of shood's in
that ones kind of live off of shoods and woods
and ott twos and must and so that's why one's
kind of get that message and they turn into perfectors.
They spend their lives perfecting themselves and perfecting other people
and feeling like they shouldn't make mistakes and they should
do things perfectly. And so then when we move onto twos,

(31:58):
two's get this message that you're gonna be loved if
you are helpful and attentive. So twos kind of feel
like their their wounds says, you really shouldn't have too
many needs because everybody around you has a lot of needs,
and you need to be helpful and attentive. And if
you're helpful and attentive, then the people around you will
love you and they'll want you. And so that's why

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twos have spent their whole lifetime kind of being the
helpers and and self sacrificing to give to other people.
And you know, there's a good side and a bad
side to every number. So that self sacrificing thing that
twos do can be great and altruistic, or it can
be manipulative and controlling. So there's always shadow and light
within each of us. Then when you get to threes,

(32:43):
threes kind of feel like that they're going to be
loved for their accomplishments, for what they achieve, for being successful.
So they they sort of get this wound in childhood
that really you shouldn't have your own identity, Really you
should conform your identity to whatever the context around you
wants it to be. You should figure out that context,

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figure out how to be successful in that context. And
if you can do that, well, you'll be loved. That's
just kind of a wound that threes pick up somewhere
along the way in childhood. Okay, which this is me,
and we learned that I can be a chameleon. I
can conform to all different types of groups wherever I
need to be. Yeah, and there's more on three that

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I want to discuss you at another time, but but
I mean, we'll go ahead with totally. No. I would
love to say to you know, sometimes that word chameleon
can be kind of a roadblock to people who are
threes because it feels like man, that feels like shady, shady,
and so here's the here's the good does But I've
known that about myself for for a long time. I
just never really thought about it. I kind of thought

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I can really turn it on if I need to,
and I can turn it on. But I mean, if
you need me to turn it on, I can turn
it on. And and and it kind of scares me
how good I am. And sometimes I notice if I
don't when I'm not turning it on. I'm like, huh,
I wonder why I'm not turning it on right now,
but I guess because I don't need to, So I'm
just evaluating the situation I don't really need to. And

(34:08):
I'm like, huh, it's so weird that I acted differently
in that situation than I am now. But that's me
being my Yeah, and that's the good in the bad.
Because the good, of course, of what you're saying is
threes are contextual, so you can adapt really well to
whatever the context needs you to adapt to. And that's
great because that means you can be adapt well to

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be what your family needs you to be, you can
adapt well to be what your work needs you to be.
Some of that just be perception too, of what because
I don't know that I because I don't. One is
a perfectionist and a three being an achiever, but I'm not.
I don't have any perfectionism. But and I wouldn't say
I'm like this where I struggled to with being a three.

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I wouldn't say that I have all of these crazy
goals and I'm just trying to get there, get there,
get there, but when I'm when I'm in something like
I'm going to be good at it, like if I'm
started it, like I'm going to follow through on at
least I've been that way in the radio world, and
which is my main career. I have other side stuff

(35:12):
that I feel like i've I don't I'm not giving
my full potential and that bugs me. But I don't
have the time or energy to figure it out. So
that is that why it's bugging me. It's because I
want to, but I want to perception wise, I want
people to think that I'm killing it right. And and yes,
that's such a good distinguishing between ones and threes because

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ones don't have as many goals as threes have. Ones
aren't working on as many projects as threes are working on.
It's okay with the one. If the project that they're
working on takes ten years to do, they're gonna do
it right. They're gonna finish it. It's going to be
done well. Threes, on the other hand, you know, because
they don't have to be perfect, they are looking for
ways to kind of get to the result more efficiently,

(35:54):
get onto the next thing, and they'll cut a corner, okay,
it's not a bad corner, but I mean my a
d D to get a little more under control, and
then I could probably handle the things that I take on.
And my friend Mary sometimes she'll call me out on
it too, like, oh, it just it seems like, you know,
you're taking on a lot, or because I have a
squaw with her where we support Haiti and we have

(36:14):
these things. She'll just be like, you know, I'm saying
no to certain things because I'm committed to this. I
just want to make sure you're in it too. And
in my brain I'm like, no, I'm inute, A'm inute,
And then I'll be like, oh shoot, like I'm trying
to be in it, but I'm also trying to like
do the radio show, be a wife, be a mom,
like do things like oh what should I be saying
no to? But then I feel like things that I

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say yes to can actually help us, So then I
feel like I'm contributing that way well, And that's the
big spiritual work for threes. The big spiritual work for
threes is spending your lifetime discovering what are the truest
pieces of your identity, which informs what are the true
things for me to give my heart and my energy
and my affection to because threes are so contextual that

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sometimes they don't stop to say, is this really this
is really fit with who I am at my core
core core, and is it realistic to really accomplish it? Yes? Yeah, Okay,
now I feel like I'm hijacking because I'm at three
and I have you here. But let's move on to
flour So if we move on to four, so fours,
here's the wound that fourds get. Fours have so many emotions.
They are the true feeling oriented number, which means that

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their wound from childhood is that they have felt like
there was not enough room in the universe for their complicated, diverse,
changing feelings. So they felt like everybody from early days
kind of said, hey, you're a little bit too much.
Tone it down a little bit, all you. We don't
really have space to process your high highs and your
low lows. So fours have spent their life feeling like

(37:42):
they were misunderstood, feeling like nobody quite saw them for
who they really were. And that's the wound that they've
carried since childhood. Okay, then when you get to fives,
fives feel like that they shouldn't be comfortable in the world.
They carry a wound that says the universe is scarce,
it's not abundant, and resources including love are not promised

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and are not a given. So fives have kind of
spent their lifetime sort of hoarding things, hoarding love, hoarding, attention,
hold hoarding, energy, hoarding even sometimes affection to make sure
that they're going to have enough and not spend down
what they have. So so so fives just kind of
feel like they probably better not be too comfortable in
the world. And then you get to six is so

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sixes is kind of the anxiety number on the angiogram.
So six is here's a double, here's the wound for six,
and it's got a two parts to it. The first
part is the world is full of danger. So six
is just like see the world as a place that
is threatening and full of danger. They there could be
a tornado, there could be a terrorist event, there could

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something could go wrong, somebody could die. But here's the problem.
Six is believe that the world is full of danger
and that they probably shouldn't try us themselves to make
it safe. That's a tricky thing. So to think that
the world's dangerous and you shouldn't trust yourself. So sixes
are kind of looking for people and institutions that they

(39:11):
believe are stronger or more knowledgeable than them to help
make them safe and figure out how to navigate through
the world. That's just a wound that six is carrying.
Now that can sound real negative, and I love six is.
Sometimes people can kind of beat up on sixes. But
that's why sixes are the community number. They care about groups,
they care about families, they care about traditions, they care

(39:34):
about communities, their loyal, loyal, loyal, there's so much good
about sixes. So sevens they carry a wound that says
you better not depend on anybody for anything. And so
the interesting thing is sevens. If your listeners know about
the Instagram, they'll know that sevens are kind of the buoyant, resilient,
fun number. Like every day is a snow day for

(39:54):
a seven. So it seems like they're kind of skating
on the surface of life. But what's going on by
hid the surface in their wound is this sense that,
you know what, they better not depend on anybody for anything.
So they better it's just up to them to make
their own fun to make their own way through the world.
So that's why they're really independent. That's why they're going

(40:16):
and making their own fun, having their own adventures, doing
their own thing, because something in them from early childhood
says you might be on your own in the world.
And then eights, they their wounds, says everybody in your
life is capable of betraying you. Everybody in your life

(40:38):
is capable of betraying you. So eates have made their
way through the world being tough, being strong, not trusting
too many people, and making sure that they were protected
from vulnerability. And so you know that's in another kind
of compassion moment for the anagrams. You know, eights are
tough and there they are capable, and they're strong, and
their fears ate sometimes is called the boss or the

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challenger challenger, and so you know, we we kind of
sometimes feel a little bit intimidated by AIDS, But what
we got to know is there is a wound behind
all of these personalities, and the wound for AIDS is
saying they might be betrayed, and so they are protecting
themselves from betrayal intuitively. And then nines, so nine are

(41:23):
the peacemakers on the Instagram, which my sister and my
husband or n Yeah, nines make the world go around.
We we love nine, So nine are the peacemakers on
the Instagram. So here's the wound that nines carry. Nines
carry a wound that says, you shouldn't assert yourself. You
better go along and get along and don't make too

(41:44):
many waves, don't make too many ruffles. So nines have
spent their lifetime not asserting themselves, which means that they're
unsure whether their presence really matters. And so for all
of us that love nines, our spiritual work for loving
nine as well is to communicate to them in every
way that we can that their presence absolutely matters to us. Hey, sister,

(42:09):
if you're listening, you matter. Amen. So that's why I
like to talk about those wounds, because they start to
show us that behind all of our personalities, behind all
of our she's funny and you know, he's kind of quiet,
and man, she's intimidating, and behind all those personalities, we
all have a wound. And that's the compassion point that

(42:31):
the angiogram gives us. It helps us to start to
just understand that there's something from childhood that we carry
through our whole lives and and it influences the way
that we act and the decisions that we make. Yep, Okay, well,
there you have it. That is the breakdown one through
nine of the wounds. Yeah, of the wounds, And so

(42:51):
we've got in future podcast we can talk about some
of the stuff that's not as heavy. No, but I
mean I think it's interesting if that's where it starts.
But that's where we start with this conversation, and then
next time you come back, we can talk about another component.
That sounds great. Okay, well, Hunter, thank you so much
for coming on. And um, his Instagram handle is Aniogram

(43:12):
Hunter Hunter. You can find me, so definitely check him out.
And then I'm sure we already talked about your podcast
or your website, but it's linked on your Instagram and
all that too, So thank you for coming on. I'm
all about confidence boosters here on the podcast. I want
to always give you all ways to feel your best,

(43:33):
especially if you have something coming up. On my very
first episode, I talked about the Superwoman pose and it's
something I use before I have to go do something big.
I think I was even in New York when I
recorded that podcast, because I was there speaking on a
panel with the CEO of our company moderating, and I
literally didn't know how I got chosen to be on
that panel, like, clearly somebody got sick or something like.
When they sent me the email, I was like, surely

(43:54):
this is for somebody else, but sure enough it was
for me, and I had to go up there and
I had to do my best and I just had
to own it. And some of these tips that are
on here for Americans top ten confidence boosters, I actually
did for that, but I also did the Superwoman post,
which I think is awesome. So if you haven't heard
what that is, it's on the first episode, And if
you've missed any other episodes, like always go back and

(44:16):
try to listen and catch up, because I do get
emails about things that I know that I've addressed, but
then the email also says, maybe you've talked about this,
but I haven't listened to every episode. So go try
to listen to every episode if you can when you
have time, and of course, you know, I know you
may not be able to catch everything, but let's go
ahead and get into these confidence boosters because maybe you've
got something coming up, maybe even later today, maybe tomorrow,

(44:38):
maybe next week, maybe next month. But you can try
some of these things that will will help you out.
So here they are in a Number one, a new haircut,
which is definitely a little extreme. I will say that
I definitely feel good after fresh cut in color, but
I wouldn't go to somebody new, Like, if you've got
something important coming up, make sure you have confidence in
your hairdresser and the look that you're going for. That

(45:02):
you're gonna feel awesome. And if you're confident in that,
then go for it. And yeah, I think it'll give
you that boost that you need. Number two wearing new clothes.
I know when I did the that panel in New York,
Kelly from Velvet said she picked out this um like pants.
No it wasn't pants. It was a suit, a skirt suit.
So it was like a blazer and a skirt that matched,
which I thought was super cute because I felt professional,

(45:23):
but I also felt fun because it wasn't pants. And yeah,
that definitely worked. But a lot of times you may
not be able to buy a new outfit for every
time you need a confidence boost. So that's where I
would say, friends come into play and Kelly and I
will borrow things often, and I have other girl friends
where you know, we'll just say, hey, I've got this
going on. Like Kelly, for example, she had a really

(45:43):
cool party that she was going to the other night
at like Karen fair Child's house from a little big town,
no big deal, but she texted me like, hey, can
I borrow your long leopard coat? And it's actually one
that she had picked out for me for an event
a long time ago, but she knew I had it
and it would go good with her outfit. So she
swung by the house and picked it up, and she
borrowed it and boom, like she looked good, but she
didn't have to spend any money. So if you have

(46:04):
friends that are like the same size, then definitely y'all
need to use each other and go into each other's
closets and swap stuff out or you know, because I mean,
that's definitely a way to feel good. Like when you're
wearing something new that you've never worn before, there is
something powerful about that, like you just feel good, and
then after you've worn it a couple of times that
that fades away. So maybe if you borrow something new

(46:24):
from someone else, then it's like you bought it, but
you didn't have to spend any money. Uh. In a
number three doing a favor for someone, which I think
when you can anytime you can put someone else like
ahead of yourself, like it's it's good for you, like
think of others before yourself, Like it'll take away some
of those negative thoughts you're having about yourself, it'll take
aways any anxiety because you're focusing on others instead of

(46:46):
things that are going on with you. And then doing
stuff for someone else always gives you a little extra
boost of feeling good. And at number four, listening to
just ten minutes of music that you love, like good music,
So put on that jam that just gives you all
the feels, pumps you up. Maybe listen to it on
your way to the event or whatever you've got going
on where you need to be super confident. And the

(47:07):
number five like exercising, which nobody ever is super excited
about exercising. I mean maybe some people, but you a
lot of times if you don't want to go exercise,
once you do it and just get it over with
you never regret it, and it always makes you feel
good and the more you do it, the better you're
going to feel at the time. So I for sure
support that. That's a confidence booster. And a number six shopping, Yeah,

(47:31):
sometimes a little retail therapy never hurts. And number seven
talking to a best friend. Yeah, I mean friends they
know you well, they know how to pump you up.
Like if you don't have friends that are lifting you up,
then you might need to find some new friends or
like talk about that in your friendship, like, hey, we
don't we don't ever encourage each other. Let's try to
do that more. And then I mean I need to

(47:51):
be better at that for sure. At eight, receiving a
compliment from your boss or co worker, I mean, and
that's not really one that we can control some of
these other ones. Obviously we can go exercise or get
a haircut, or borrow clothes or buy clothes, but you
can't really like go to your boss and say, hey,
I'm looking for like a confidence booster, could you just
tell me something awesome? Which is kind of funny because

(48:12):
Bobby literally just walked in as I was saying that.
And what do you say about compliments to your employees?
Like talking to my podcast, it's not two employees with
anyone like, okay, you just toss things out, they're not
very valuable, not just compliments, but anything in life. Anything
you toss out freely is not a value. So you

(48:32):
have to find the fine line of when you say
it it's it means a lot because you you don't
give it away for free. It's like your virginity, you know,
just give it away. You gotta make sure it's a
valuable thing. Compliments of the same web. I try to
give compliments whenever. If someone gets it, they know that
I really mean it. Yes, that's true. He doesn't just

(48:52):
pass them out. So anyway, Again, that's something that's out
of our control. So you can't really ask for that.
But I will say if I do get a compliment
from boss, I know, I know I'm saying it does
it could boost my confidence. It makes me feel really good.
It's a confidence booster. And I've been better at it too.
I've been trying to be better at it. And it's
okay to slightly beyond the on either side of it.

(49:13):
You know, if you a little less, are a little
too much, that's okay. There's not really a right answer.
But if you just all the time, tell people how
amazing they are. Then when they really are amazing, they're
just gonna think of words because it's always just been words.
But you're not an amazing podcast. Thank you, thank you,
But I mean that's seriously, how often do I tell
you that away from the microphone's Yeah, you've been a

(49:35):
big supporter, and I've been like, it's gonna be way
bigger than even mine. When that that, you just boost
my call and I wanted to talk about the big Yeah,
thank you, thank you, biggest fan right there, See you later.
And then okay, let's round out nine in ten buying
new clone or perfume. That really doesn't do anything for me,
but I will give you a tip, Like if you

(49:56):
go to like Dillard's or Macy's or Norch Droom or something,
you know what you can do if you want to
not buy perfume and you can't decide what you want,
They'll give you those little tiny samples all you want.
Like you can walk away with like five of those
little tiny sample things and that will last you a
good while and then boom, you don't have to spend
any money and you smell pretty good and you smell
like different things for like a month or so, and

(50:16):
then a number ten talking to a family member, which
I would round that into talking to a best friend.
Just having people that you know you can rely on
that are going to lift you up and make you
the best version of yourself. So there you go. If
you've got something big coming up um in your life,
then hopefully you can or big or small, or just
maybe you just need your confidence boosted, then boom, try

(50:39):
one of these ten things. I guess who's back back again?
Mary's back. Okay, so I have Mary back for another
thing because she was on last Thursday's episode own podcast

(51:00):
episode and there was some questions that came in about,
you know, how to get involved and you know, so
many of you out there want to take trips and
go to Haiti or wherever, and Mary and I were
talking before we hit record, and we're like, yeah, I mean,
but just to make an impact, you don't have to
go anywhere in the world. It could literally be in

(51:20):
your community. And that's that's a reminder and encouragement to
both Mary and myself that you know, it's important to
get involved even where you are, and then if the
opportunity comes up, you could take a trip somewhere, or
if if somewhere is on your heart, then there are
ways to try to make that happen. Like you and

(51:41):
I both the first time I went to Haiti, I
invited myself on a trip. A team was already going,
and I just sent an email because I had been
wanting to go to Haiti and I literally invited myself
and the people were so nice And I'm still friends
with them to this day. Tiffany and Christie's shout out,
But yeah, I just showed up at their house. They

(52:01):
were already having like trip meetings and here I come,
and I'm like, I'm coming to Haiti with you all.
And it changed my life. Obviously ended up adopting two
kids from the orphanage that we visited on that trip,
and that was in December of two thousand and twelve,
so pretty crazy. I made my life changed kept because
of it. So you know, had I not ever sent

(52:23):
that email and tried to invite myself, who knows what
how I would have ended up there. But you also, marry,
you invited yourself fund some trip to Haiti, I mean
with me, and then, yeah, I had wanted to go
again and just kind of see other parts of Haiti
as well. So I kind of my church had a
group that was going. I like literally knew no one

(52:44):
from it, so I researched it and seemed awesome and
then yeah, I just emailed them and I remember showing
up to the first meeting and like being like, oh
my gosh, I literally and I was actually I remember
it was on my birthday and like they didn't know
when they knew that excuse me. And it was just funny.
But and now I'm like still good friends one of
the girls that we went, because like you would think
you were taking a trip of someone, like maybe somebody

(53:05):
would know your like okay, but like, yeah, no one knew.
It was just funny. That's like how much I didn't
know anyone um. But it end up being awesome and
I saw a totally different side of Haiti, like it
was way outside of Port of Prince Um and I
feel like it was such about I learned so much
that we actually I feel like it made me better
at what we do in Haiti now and I want
to go back back there as well. And I made
connections with people and one of the girls that I

(53:27):
went with it was like five years ago and randomly, Um,
she emailed me a few a couple of years after
that and now she works with me. So if you
emailed the support of the shot forward dot com Brooke,
shout out she that's how I met her. It was
in Haiti. Oh so that's another thing too that I
feel like we want to touch on because we talked
so much about the shot Forward when you were on

(53:48):
and how that came about and pimp enjoy being your
first partnership. But then it's grown so much that you
are looking for Oh I forgot like in so like
go ahead and give your shout out to anybody that
maybe she doesn't need help, just hard like we have

(54:09):
such like high ebbs and flows of it's not like
a supercusis consistent type thing sometimes and you know, like
I try to do a lot on my own, but
we do have awesome people that work with us. Shut
up Brooke and A and Bonnie actually employee of the
month like all the time. Self appointed. Yeah so she
might yeah, um, but I am like especially I admitted

(54:33):
a comment on Instagram a few weeks ago that about
like that I needed like a web person web marketing
digital and I'd have gotten a bunch of emails. I'm
still sorting through this, so if you emailed, sorry, Like
I haven't gone back to people, but that doesn't mean
I won't. Um, I need to look through all those.
But yeah, if you can think of a way, like
I want people that I just really want to be
a part of what we're doing and our hard workers
and preferably living well, yeah, that's the thing. We're in

(54:55):
southern California and Orange County. That's most people are like,
I live in different places. I love what you're doing,
which I still but I totally appreciate, but there are
some things that can be done remotely. But the majority
we do need people in Orange County. So even if
you don't live there and you're like, oh, my best
friend lives there, or my cousin's cousin and my cousin's
best friend and my cousin's cousin's cousin's best friend somebody

(55:16):
like that, we're just trying to get the word out
and obviously, UM try to find mary some help for
people in in different ways. UM. So it's careers at
the shop forward dot com and just say how you
think you could contribute, UM, and why you would want
to Yeah. Okay, so there's that a little shout out,
but um, yeah, that's cool. That's how you met Brooke

(55:37):
was on that Haiti trip, and I think you know,
obviously you need to vet if you are. We're not
just saying go to hop on to some group and
then just make sure the group where they're going, Like
if you're traveling to another country that they know what
they're doing. There's somebody experience going on the trip and
they've done it before and you're so that way, you're

(55:57):
not totally going into a blind because some places that
you travel too, I mean, there's safety concerns, there's I mean,
Mary and I are of the mindset we try to
go with groups that are um experience but definitely low
key and like when we go and we take friends
with us, like we I don't want to anybody listening
to this that's ever done the matching T shirts thing

(56:18):
like to take this the wrong way. But my husband
being in the military for so long in him being
just overly cautious of not drawing attention to yourself, especially
when you're in other countries, um, where you might be
like the American that just landed with a bunch of
money in your bag because you're on a mission trip
to help. Because yeah, if you're in a third world country,

(56:39):
they already kind of have a target on your back
a little bit. And not that there's I mean, there's loving,
amazing people in every country, but just like here in America,
we have people that are just not loving, not the shady,
and yeah there are more desperate times in certain places
and they're just willing to do other things like maybe
rob the Americans. So if you wear matching T shirts

(57:02):
and you kind of roll into the porta Prince Airport
like we're here to serve you know it just it
just screams like hey, maybe raw our car while we're
on our way to do good. If anything, you want
to be under the radar, like you don't want to
stand out at all, just try to And that's just
us coming from trying to not be draw attention yourselves,

(57:23):
not be flashy, don't stand out. It's better to not
stand out. So anyway, that would be our encouragement if
you find a group to go with, like try not
to wear matching T shirts. But I mean I get it,
like you're there and it's cool and you want to
support and but maybe we're the T shirt back home. Yes,
it's a memory to keep at home, but that's even
advice for my husband's just overly protective, cautious military background

(57:47):
is like, let's not wear matching T shirts. So side
note on that. Um. But yeah, if there's somewhere in
the world you want to go, like and you're trying
to figure it out, just yeah, look at church groups,
ask around, ask bowl, um, google things, and don't let
that stop you just because you don't know how to
you know, book a trip yourself. Um. Mary and I

(58:09):
don't really host. We do get a lot of messages
sometimes like oh, I want to go to Haiti with
you all one time, and we got on there with friends,
but we haven't like hosted a trip. Not to say
that that won't ever happen, but we haven't organized something
where we just like take a team down there. Um,
Like that's just not we don't feel like that's what
we're equipped to do. And for so long we were

(58:30):
going just to visit my kids and also work, uh,
find different places to work alongside like them because hire
people at the bakery. Yeah, there was other projects we
were working on. So when we're down there. We try
to We're normally having to be really efficient with our time.
We're not there for tons of days to just you know,
knock out some you know projects, Like we're kind of

(58:53):
on a mission, and I feel like the next time
we go back, we're going to be We really want
to go to uh follow up with My Life Speaks,
which is the special needs orphanage we um supported that
a SPUA sent support to over Christmas time. Then Project
Meta Share the maternity Center. We've got to go do that,
and we want to take pictures and videos and show

(59:15):
you guys what you've done through your purchases, like it's
so crazy and amazing and we just want to make
sure I don't know, I feel like we do it.
We move on and it's awesome, and then it's we
got to remember to like celebrate it and also show
you what you write. We don't want to just say, hey,
you bought this four things tod and it's sent help
to hear, like we want see like this is what

(59:36):
they were able to buy. The kid was like this
happened because of you. Yea, his life is better because
of you. That type of thing. Yeah, So and then
you know you are supporting. So in a way, I
know this isn't you going to Haiti. You're taking a trip.
But some people can't get off work or they can't
leave their family. But we want you to look at

(59:56):
like when you are spending your hard earned money, like
if you're shopping with the squat or other things from
the Shop Forward. That's the whole point is to know
that that is you making an impact, whether locally or
globally or whatever. And that's what Mary's goal was in
creating the Shop Forward was to give that platform where
you can shop and pay it forward at the same time.

(01:00:18):
So just know that you're making an impact there and
it all starts. You don't even and you don't even
have to shop. You don't have to spend money to
make an impact. I think that's what when my mom
was going through cancer and had that attitude of joy
and then she was Judy b Pimp and Joy on
Twitter and then the hashtag pimp and joy was born
from that. Yeah, there was a lot of people that

(01:00:42):
weren't like, yeah, spreading joy and pimp and joy wasn't
a monetary thing. It could be people would call into
the show a story, Yeah, smiling at someone getting the
door for someone, if someone dropped something, try to beat
them to it and pick it up and be like
here you go, like or let the car go in
front of you in traffic, or you know, control your

(01:01:05):
road rage. That's that's what I like. I'm so proud
of myself for controlling. And then I'm like, Pimp and Joy. Yes,
I'm such a joyful person. I just controlled my anger
right now. So and then actually, if you're wearing a
Pimp and Enjoy shirt, like, oh my gosh, we worked
with a guy, um and he's awesome that he had.
I won't call him out by name, but he if
you listen to Bobby bone Tree you might know how

(01:01:26):
I'm talking about. And I've even said this to his face,
so I'm not talking behind his back. But he would
wear Pimp and Joy stuff. But when we would travel
sometimes if he wasn't happy, he would express that at
an airport and like things would escalate and I'd be like,
could you not do that in a Pimp and Joy
hat or sure or something like a code of condom
if they're not gonna be Pimp and the Joy, which

(01:01:47):
is also brings me to another thing. But I have
had lots of thoughts in my head, but I kind
of want to circle to this next because it relates
is like Mary and Ashley and Broken when they're going
through customers seemales like times people will have ordered something
pimp and joy and then they something happens and they
have to send a customer service related email and it's
like the rudest email like you've ever seen, and you're like, oh, shoot,

(01:02:11):
like do you need the shirt more than yeah? Maybe
maybe you just keep it and keep the bit and joy. Suret,
but let's choose joy like because then we think, oh, man,
like everybody is able to buy whatever. It's not like
we monitor like are you a joy? Do you seek
that joy before you put this on? But hopefully we
all have bad days for sure, so no judgment here

(01:02:33):
on that, including me. Like some days I looked down
at my shirt and I'm like, oh yeah, choose joy like.
It's not that big of a deal. Move on, Like,
change your attitude. This is what I say to my son.
You've got five seconds to change your attitude. You want
to be good choices, you wanna make bad choices, and
so like for us, you can look at your pimp
and Joy hat or your shirt. Whenever I be like
deep breath five seconds, I can make good choice or

(01:02:53):
bad choice, and then hopefully that will be that reminder.
But it's just funny the emails that come in sometimes
where you're like, oh wow, maybe don't even want you
wearing a him Enjoy shirt, but okay, maybe having a
bad day and then but yeah, back to my mom
is like she like in the theme song that Walker
Hayes wrote for her Joy like Judy um he put

(01:03:14):
in there. She even would be talking to people in
the elevator and we're like, who talks to people in
the elevator because that was my comment one day you
played that song on your I haven't no, I guess
I could. Well, I don't know. The video is really
good if you just go to YouTube and put in
Joy like Judy Walker Hayes or the pimp Enjoy song
or something. But um, and that's my mom starring in

(01:03:36):
her own music video. And then the Bobby Bone shows
in it. And she had this signature dance move that
she always did. It was like after she finished treatment,
she would kind of do this little like jig with
her hands and legs and it was cute, but yeah,
she my mom wasn't spending any money by spreading her
joy around the hospital. She was just making She was
very proactive about trying to be positive and smile other

(01:03:57):
patients and make them feel good and compliment them. And
you know, if they got on the elevator, she knew
they were probably going through treatment just like her. So
she'd be like, oh, that's a really pretty sweater, you know,
because like that's an easy way to spread joy. You
don't have to like ask them how they do yeah,
because you know they're not they're probably not doing that great.
But like in the doctors, she was always trying to
be really thoughtful and nice to them. And yeah, speaking

(01:04:19):
of the phone calls, and we would get on the
Bobby Bones Show. One of the best phone calls I
think ever that we got was during Joy Week, which
is the very first one we ever did, and a
listener called in. No, she wasn't even a listener, but
she she never had listened to the Bobby Bones Show.
But she um a guy. She was getting her tires

(01:04:42):
changed or fixed at the tire shop and she went
up to talk to the guy and he was like,
it looks like you're gonna have to get four new
tires instead of maybe one. And she was like, oh
like that. She was a single mom or something like that,
and she couldn't afford to get dre so she was like,
maybe I'll just do one now and I can figure
out the rest later. Well, a guy in line that
overheard everything. He was a listener of the Bobby Bone

(01:05:03):
Show and he knew it was Joy Week and he
had the money to do it, so he told her, Hey,
I want to get you I get goose som'st even
saying it now. He's like, I want to get you
all four tires. And she was like what I thought
it was or something crazy, and yeah, it was a lot,
and she said why why are you? Like basically, why
are you doing this for me? He said, well, I

(01:05:23):
listened to the Bobby Bone Show. It's this morning show
and it's Joy Week and we're supposed to do whatever
he can to spread joy this week and just hashtag
pimp and joy. And so she obviously was like, Okay,
what the heck is this Bobby Bones show? So he
bought her the tires and then she looked us up
and she called into the show the next morning to
tell us the story. And we still don't know who

(01:05:45):
that guy is to this day. He's just one of
our awesome listeners. But she called the brag on him,
and you know, obviously that is one of he had
the means to do that, but not we get it.
Not everybody does. But you can just look for little
opportunities like that, which that was big time, or you
can look for little moments just to make someone's day

(01:06:07):
with a compliment or you know, buy a Starbucks drink
or whatever. Sometimes pimp and Joy will happen at Starbucks
and the barista will write hashtag pimp and Joy on
the cup for the people, and then it'll be a
chain reaction and sometimes listeners will post they're like, oh
my gosh, I guess someone in front of me was
pimp and Joy because there's pimp and Joy on my
cup and the barista said it was paid for and

(01:06:29):
so for the like post a picture of their cup
with pim and Joy. They're like, what is this? What
does pimp enjoy? And then they learned about it by
clicking on the hashtag and it's like, yeah, so people
can see, so yeah, this is kind of just a
follow up with Mary, but mainly, I mean, I think
these are some things people I want to know, like
how to how to go to Haiti or how to

(01:06:50):
spread joy or how to be involved in your community,
and like even locally, like you do work with UNICEF,
and that's a I don't know that that's thing for
organizations in other countries and here, but like it's we
work mainly in the US, and you started working with
them in New York, but then when you moved to
California you stayed with it. Yeah, but I mean that's

(01:07:11):
even a challenge to me. Sometimes we're trying to plan
it to hating it's so complicated or whatever, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, when's the last time I did something
in my city? Right, because it's hard for us to
get away, and I'm like, I can do this, and
so I just gotta put on the calendar and I
need even with the shot forward, like we need we
want to take a day a month and do that
as a team and like a work day and do that,
like I don't know, And I want to get the kids.

(01:07:32):
There's like a mission home, like not too far from
our neighborhood, and I want them to start going there
and they have you know, the soup catching off part,
and you know, of course it's something that we talk about,
but I haven't taken action. And so this is a
good reminder for me too that we need to do that.
And that is like such a big part of my
growing up. We did that. My parents were so good

(01:07:53):
about that, and even my school, I think we did service.
I don't know, I was just like normal. Now that
I think about it, I'm like, why don't I do
that anymore? So, like we as grown women, we need
to be doing that. But then it's important too. Yeah,
So the next time I'm on, talk about what we're doing. Yes,
next time you come on, we'll update on how we've
gotten involved locally in our community, because not all serving

(01:08:13):
has to be somewhere you know, you know, to get
on an airplane and travel, because that's just not always easy.
But if you do want to, our encouragement is you
can make it happen. Don't just think, oh, that's impossible.
And then also, yeah, find ways to serve locally. Fine
through there's so many different organizations. I'm sure you could

(01:08:36):
look up and like the food Bank, like they always
are looking for volunteers, even like sorting food and or
doing like a food drive and maybe try to orchestrate
one at your school or at your church and be
the one to spearhead that and then that'll help. There's
like there's other groups too that will have you if
you could want to collect shoes and then you can

(01:08:58):
ship the shoes off to a group and they'll take
them to other people that need them. But you could
be the person that's like, hey, I'm gonna collect everybody.
You don't have to just research and find other ways,
don't think of ways to help, and you could be
the one to organize it exactly. Okay, Um, any other
things we wanted to follow up on. I know we
wanted to touch on Haiti a little bit of Pimp

(01:09:19):
and Joy, but I'm trying to think of other things
people were asking about, and people definitely want to um
work for Mary, But the whole Southern California thing is
but again, a friend of a friend, maybe if you
know somebody, and then I'm also the summer are gonna
be looking for an intern. So I'm throwing that out there.
Just put that out there in case anybody knows. And

(01:09:39):
I've had people reach out that don't live here, and
again I would rather you already live here. I don't
want anybody to relocate here. I mean, it's an internship.
You have to be getting college credit like that. So yeah. Also,
on another note, we'll end with that. I'm trying to
now drink one of water a day and I have
to go pee all the all the time, like literally

(01:10:02):
right now we're ending this because I have to go
fee like seriously, a hundred ounces, y'all. It's a lot.
I used to only drink like sixty or when I
hit a hundred thousand, I know, i'mlike, if I last sip,
that's going to be a hundred ounces of water. Oh
that is no, no, no, I'm just saying that's what
I do. I make the announcement at the end of

(01:10:24):
the night and I'm like and done. So I've been
doing that for about a week now, and I don't
I'm saying I feel good because I haven't been eating
that great just because but I haven't been feeling I
think as crappy as I normally do when I'm eating bad,
because the water is like helping push everything out at
least I don't know, sort of telling myself, so well, Mary,
thank you for coming back on, and don't forget to

(01:10:46):
hit her up careers at the shop for dot com
in case you know somebody that's interested, and then shop
a spot dot com or Radio Amy dot com or
the shot forward dot com. We have all the dot
COM's if you want to find ways, it's really really
easy to find pacifically to you know, get some pimp
joy or a splass wag. Okay um, okay, Mary, I'll

(01:11:08):
let you say bye bye. Okay, Well, that's a wrap
on today's episode. Before I get to the email shout out,
just want to say thank you to Andrea, my high
school bff, for coming on. It's super neat to have
my friends come on the podcast, so hopefully you'll enjoyed
us reminiscing a little bit. And then I appreciate Mary

(01:11:30):
coming back on for a follow up and the confidence boosters.
I hope that that's something that comes in handy for
you at some point, just a little something to keep
in your back pocket for those days that you need it,
which hey, we all need a confidence boost here and there.
And then thank you to Hunter Mobili again the Aniogram
teacher for coming on. I definitely want to have him
back after he comes on. I always get lots of

(01:11:51):
questions about the insiogram. If you haven't taken the test,
maybe you should hop online and try to take it
and try to start to figure out what number you are,
and then you'll probably the more you get into it,
the more interesting you'll find this stuff for sure. So
that's kind of my thank yous for you know, the
guests that came on the show. And now I will

(01:12:13):
get to an email that I loved, and this one
is from Sarah. Hey, Amy, just wanted to say that
I love your podcast and listening has become the best
part of my weekly routine. I've historically been a glass
half empty type of girl, but I've lately found myself
trying to choose joy and look for the positive. When
wandering a local boutique, I spotted a bracelet stand that

(01:12:36):
benefited Haiti and automatically thought of you in your podcast.
The bracelet I chose was a gold Bengal that says
happy a f and through the purchase, a week's tuition
and a meal is provided to a child in Haiti.
It will be my constant reminder to choose joy, just
wanted to thank you for being you and can't wait
to see you continue to grow your brand. So thank

(01:12:57):
you Sarah for sharing this email. And I love that
you've got something to help you remember to choose joy.
And I love your bracelet sounds adorable, happy af and
I love the fact that it supports Haiti and it
just it reminds me what Mary and I were talking
about on today's episode, Like you know, we when we
wear Pimp and Joy, it's a reminder for us to
look down and choose joy. I mean, I even have

(01:13:18):
Joy and a squaw tattooed on my arm as a
reminder to choose joy and have hope because a squaw
means hope in Haitian creele. So I try to see
it every day as a tattoo. But I also when
I wear stuff that has a meaning. I like when
we can shop with a purpose and it has something
attached to it, whether it's got a message for us
or a reminder that you know, there are kids that

(01:13:42):
don't always have food, and this bracelet you know that,
Sarah to Scott, it's providing, you know, a week's tuition
and a meal for a child in Haiti. So It's
like a reminder to be grateful and thankful, or a
reminder to say a quick prayer for, you know, those
specific kids in Haiti. So I lo being able to
shop with the purpose and seeing this bracelet email also

(01:14:03):
made me think of my daughter stash here and how
she now makes bracelets to support the orphanage that she
grew up in in Haiti and we sell them at
shop as Spua and anytime we put them up, they
sell out so fast, and she just gets this smile
on her face. She's really starting to get more involved,
like trying to pick out beads, and we have little

(01:14:23):
meetings and sometimes her cute little personality comes out, like
she'll put the bracelets on the table and like look
at me and Mary. She's like, I'm here for business.
I'm all business, and she wants to learn more. But
then she's also a kid, so there's some days where
she's just totally not into it and she's doing her
own thing, and but then she'll get back into it
and she'll be like, Okay, I'm ready to make bracelets,
and then boom, she'll just bust out like twenty and
I'm like, how did you do that? So fast because

(01:14:46):
it's not easy to come up with all the colors
and things. So, um, she actually just did some custom
ones for a bachelorette party, which is super cool. But
most of the ones that we sell on shop as Spua,
they say a Spua, so they're they're on brand. So
I'm just so proud of her and it's fun to
see her do that. And so I would encourage other

(01:15:06):
moms to, you know, find something that your kids like
to do that can help them give back, but also
you know, empower them and allow them to use their
creative minds and or like shoot, just get outside and
whip up some lemonade and sell it and interact with
people and try to make a difference and then take
the money and maybe donate it somewhere. Um, I know, Stashira,

(01:15:29):
we definitely are trying to teach her about about business,
so she's able to keep some money for herself and
then she set some money aside to reinvest in her
business for string and beads and all that, and then um,
she sends the rest to the orphanage. So she's a
little entrepreneur and she's only eleven, and you know, if

(01:15:51):
she doesn't want to do anymore, then we won't do it.
But as of right now, she's like loving it. I'm
like a bracelet mom. Mary and I were talking about
that because we were trying to encourage her to do
certain things. We wanted to make little tags, and then
we realized we were kind of taking over. You know,
there's like dance moms that are like in the corner
doing the dance routine. Well, we felt like we were
being bracelet moms because we were like in the corner

(01:16:12):
china micromanage bead color situations and whatnot, and we're like, Okay,
we gotta back off. We gotta let her just do
her thing. So now I'm rambling, and I'm sure y'all
are ready to go, and I guess so I'll close
out big thank you to Walker Hayes for the theme song.
Thank you, Mike, d Elizabeth Um all the people that
helped me get this podcast up to where you can

(01:16:33):
actually listen to it somewhere. And yeah, we'll be back
on Tuesday with another fifth thing, a Q and a episode,
So start sending your questions or things with Amy Brown
at gmail dot com. Okay, bye, little food for oh pretty,

(01:17:00):
but hey, it's pretty beautiful thing, beautiful that for a
little more family tightened up before thing, of course, said
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