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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, little food for you. So life. Oh that's pretty.
It's pretty beautiful. Thank you, laughs. A little more kicking
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with four Happy Thursday four Thanks fam Amy here, Happy Thanksgiving,
Happy birthday to my bff since high school Andrea, and
happy movie released day. So much happiness happening. Kat is
here with me to just do a quick little intro
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with y'all, and yeah, today's the day. The Christmas movie
that I'm in is officially available to stream on HBO
Max and it's a romantic drama. M m that's it's
described a romantic drama called Holiday Harmony, and I'm definitely
freaking out, mostly about the lack of my acting skills,
but also about my eyebrows. What did you do your eyebrows? Well,
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I don't know if I ever told you about this,
but Brook Shields is in the movie, and I think
that maybe I was inspired by her brows. So like
the day before I flew to l A to film,
I decided to get them laminated and died Died like darker,
so they I wanted them to be fluffy and full.
But the problem is I don't really have brows that
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do that. And the person that I went to she's awesome,
like she laminates brows and other people's brows look amazing.
But I probably should have done it maybe a week
or two out, and then they would have the color
would have faded correctly. Like I don't know, it's too soon,
too soon, too much, too soon, And I showed up
and my brows they just I didn't feel comfortable in
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my own face, so I just and do stuff like that,
like I'm not cool enough to go get them laminated
and died, and then I show up to film and
I had to put concealer and powder over them and
they were still shining through. Okay, so it's not that
you're not cool enough to do something like that, but
maybe you don't do something you've never done before like
that to your face right before a big event like that. Exactly.
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That's the lesson. That's exactly the lesson. And you know what,
I will like inevitably probably do something like that again,
because it's not the first time I've just done something
right before something big in my life where I'm like, oh,
let me try this out. Of course, I want to
feel confident, and I make myself feel not confident, So
do as I say, not as I do because I
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will likely make this mistake again. But I have a
few parts in the movie with Sissony, which is Ryan
Seacrest co host. We're on stage hosting the I Heart
Radio Christmas Eve special. But my big time to shine
is you know what is it? It's my bath room scene.
And my kids keep making fun of me that my
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main scene is in a bathroom, but it'll make sense
once you watched the movie. And I also have a
fun promo video that the movie people put together that
I could share on socials, but I'll just play the
audio here. Hey, it's a me from the new HBO
Max movie Holiday Harmony. My experience filming was amazing. I'm Amy.
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Never thought I would be a part of a movie,
so it's obviously super exciting and a bucket list item.
And I get to be the encourage her and remind
her to tap into who she really is, and I
just love that moment. Girls go to stick together and
don't miss Holiday Harmony streaming only on HBO Max. That
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sounds so fun and official, like you're a real movie star. Yeah,
HBO Max and Warner Brothers kind of official. You're kind
of a big deal. No, I'm not a big deal.
But the people behind the movie, you're part of it. No,
I was a part of it because I ended up
being a part of it. And the script was sent
to one of my boss is Tom Pullman in New York,
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and thankfully he thought of me along with Sissony. He
went down the chain of people to get to me
of like, is Amy Brown interested in doing a Christmas movie?
And I said, yeah, only for the last like ten
years of my life, but I have I ever done
anything to actually pursue it. But it happened, and yeah,
and now we'll see what happens because I really really
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really enjoyed it. And coming up, you're gonna hear two
chats that I had. One with the writer and producer
of the movie, Laurence Swickard, she is awesome. And then
a chat with the lead character in the movie, Annelie
Sappero and her character is Gail, and that's who I
share the pivotal moment with in the bathroom. And they're
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amazing women. I just from really really honored to be
a part of this project with them, and in honor
of Thanksgiving and how thankful I am for this community.
If you watch it and you take a screenshot or
not a screenshot. You probably not watching it on your phone,
but I guess there is the HBO Max app. But
if you take a picture of you watching it and
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post it in your stories and tag me at Radio Amy,
I'm gonna pick someone randomly to send a visa gift
card too. Maybe it'll help out with some Christmas shopping
or you can treat yourself to something. But it's just
a fun way to try to get back. And I
wish I could send them to everybody that did a screenshot,
but I would need way more movies under my belt.
I would need to be Hollywood movie star for that.
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But also cat in honor of Thanksgiving, will you do
four things gratitude with me real quick, like rapid fire,
rapid ish fire, rough fire. I mean, let's be honest,
it's rapidsh But I wanna name quickly ish your side
dish pie family game in Christmas movie that you're most
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thankful for. I'll go and then you go, Okay, okay,
side dish Okay for me, mac and cheese and stuffing.
Don't make me choose, Okay. I was gonna say, can
I have VICTI yeah, there's no I actually don't really
like either of those. I'm coming around to stuffing mac
and cheese that you've never been a fan of. But
my two are green beans but like the ones that
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my mom makes. And noodles, which I don't know if
everybody makes this? Are we even at Thanksgiving? You know?
My my family makes these like egg noodles with like
the sauce is almost like gravy. It's it's like a
West Virginia thing. I feel like cream of mushroom. No,
maybe it's not like gravy. I don't know, but there.
We grew up with them. It's like you're making them
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paste like its sands. Gross. I'm sure it's amazing. I'm
gonna send you a picture, except this year I won't
be having them because I'm not having Thanksgiving dinner this year. Well,
because you're gonna be in another country. Are they gonna
even celebrate Thanksgiving? Okay, pie, I go pumpkin and pecan.
Don't make me choose. I don't like either of these.
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Give what's your fine? What like it with ice cream?
And I from the topping? Okay, yes, I like apple pie,
just not at Thanksgiving. I would choose apple pie on
the fourth of July. I see it as a holiday pie. Okay,
we're judging me. I'm judging, just kidding. Okay, family game,
I go Pictionary and puzzle time. Don't make me choose. Okay,
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I'm gonna do too too. I like playing Code Names.
You play that, right? Yeah? I like it and I'm
newly obsessed this here with Phase ten. It's the game
that I have ubered two restaurants and bars that I've
been at multiple times this year just because I want
to play it when i'm there. So fun based. Okay,
what about Christmas movie that you're thankful for? I mean
it's really really, really hard to choose one, but I
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love for Christmas Is with Reese Witherspoon, like it's so funny.
And then any Hallmark Lifetime Holiday Harmony obviously. Yeah, the
romantic drama on HBO Max out today. Um, okay, this
we're agreeing on this because I was gonna say I
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have two. But it's so hard because when you think
about your childhood and all the movies you watch as
a kid. So I'm gonna go for Christmas Is? And
did you ever watch Annabel's Wish? Um? I don't think so.
Randy Travis is like the narrator. No, I've never even
heard of this. Oh my gosh, that's your homework for
the holidays. You have to watch Annabel's Wish. All my
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friends make fun of me, my friend Taylor because we
love it. It's so sweet, but it's like a weird
child's movie. Okay, well, I'll have to check it out
right now. I'm currently thinking about the people that don't
have HBO Max that don't want to pay for it,
and I'm trying to think of ways. I was just
looking up on my computer if there was a way
to get a free trial, because I thought that they
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did have a free trial, but it says here that
they don't. But it says if you have Hulu, then
you can add HBO Max to your Hulu account for
a free seven day trial. And then I guess you
could google if you can find something a way to
get a free trial, but it doesn't seem like HBO
Max has one on their website right now. This is
not an actual commercial for HBO Max, but might as
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well be, because that is the only place you can
watch Friends whenever you want, one of my favorite shows ever. Yeah,
they bought the exclusive rights to that so now you
can't get friends anywhere else. Succession is on their big
little lies. Game of Thrones, which I don't watch, but
people say it's the best show in the world ever
watched it. Me neither, We're not cool enough, but people
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that watch it love it. There's also Hacks and Righteous Gemstones,
which don't watch that with your kids. That's Sopranos. Probably
don't watch that with your kids either, But oh I
love the Gilded Age? Did you ever watch that? That's
also when I need a new show, Watch the Gilded Age? Okay,
what's it about. It's back in the Gilded Age. It's back.
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It's in America, like late seventeen hundreds eight. I don't
isn't White Lotus on HBO Max? Yes? Have you watched it? Yes?
Did you like it? I did. I watched and I
got like, I was like, hopefully something's gonna happen. Hopefully
something's gonna happen, and nothing happened. So I just ended
up looking at the ending. I did not like it
at all. Oh, well, we're here talking about as we
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love from Atrio Max, not shows we don't. But I mean,
I wonder why you didn't get into it. I love
Connie Britton. Maybe that's why I just it was a
little bored. Well, hopefully I'll watch The Guilded Age. Yeah,
go watch that which the Gilded Age? I looked up
and it's the late eighteen hundreds, in like eighteen seventy
to nineteen hundred, So little history lessons were you there?
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Now I'm about to play my chat with Laurence Swickard
about holiday harmony. But cat, did you ever watch a
California Christmas on Netflix? We watched that together? We did? Yes,
I came to your house way back? Is that when
we made our vision boards? Was yeah, yeah, we watched that. Okay,
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I mean it would have been from when we were
transitioning from one and we made the vision board. That's right. Okay. Well,
so Laurence Wickard, who you're about to hear, she was
the writer and producer and start in that with her husband,
he was the love interest and they're so cute. And
then that movie that got a sequel, which was A
California Christmas City Lights. Have you watched Maybe we watched
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the sequel together? We didn't. The sequel was that would
have been this last Christmas, And we did vision boards
two years ago. I know we watched one of those
because we did the vision board before we got the cat,
and then you got the cat, and then Whaila five
six months later, we got the cat. That's what happens
when you make a vision board. That's right. So you
in Big Pea need to add California Christmas City Lights
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to your watch list. To your watch list, Lauren again,
she wrote and started in both of those, and you'll hear.
Lauren mentioned that she's hopeful that Holiday Harmony will get
a sequel, so I might have a shot to return
with better acting skills around two. We'll see. I mean,
the more people that stream it, the better shot we have.
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So I guess I'll just get into my talk with
Lauren right now, and then after that you'll hear my
chat with Anna Lice, who is the star of Holiday
Harmony as well. But here's my chat with Lauren. Hey, Lauren,
it's so good to see you on on Zoom. But
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today's the big day. My scenes in your movie Holiday
Harmony are finally public. Hi. Thank you so much for
having me on your show. Yes, you do have a
scene or two and they're big scenes. You did such
a good job. People on the Bobby Bones Show, Bobby
in particular, and some of my other co hosts have
been asking ever since I've filmed, well, how many lines
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did you have? And I'm like, well, I don't know
how to really add up what the lines were. I
don't know how many lines you had. But for instance,
when actress books a TV show, it's like there's co star,
guest star, and then supporting characters. So co star is
usually someone's first acting role and it's maybe five or
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under lines, so you're only actually saying five lines or
five sentences, and that counts as a co star. Usually
an actress doesn't really get their first guest star, which
is more of what you did, until they've done at
least six or seven co stars. So you skied all
the steps. You just got right in there. And movies
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are different. We don't categorize, oh I I had a
co star a guest star role in the movie. But
that's how you kind of like gauge it on television,
and it's just easier to think about, like line count wise.
But yeah, you had a huge scene, an important scene,
and you killed it. You killed it and it was
so hard. The company that you work with, the production company,
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y'all had three or four releases on HBO Max and
this is just one of them, right, correct. So we
have three movies coming out on HBO Max, Holiday Harmon,
Hollywood Christmas, and A Christmas Mystery, and then we have
one coming out on Netflix called I Believe in Santa,
but Holiday Harmony is my movie personally, and then Hollywood Christmas.
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My husband is in that movie as the lead and
I co produced that one with the company, and we're
so excited. HBO Max has been so wonderful and w
B at HBO Max connected us with I Heart and
then we got to meet you. And these movies are
so special, especially especially Holiday Harmony. It's just it has
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that musical aspect. People are gonna love it. People are
gonna love it, you know. Donald Miller says that every
good story has a hero, a villain, a victim, and
a guide. And I think that my supporting role in
the Bathroom makes me a guide. Absolutely. You're yes, you're
a guide, especially because this character that you're helping doesn't
doesn't have a mother in her life. So think about
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a woman coming and and encouraging you like that, and
you're one of your most vulnerable moments. Having not grown
up with a mother, you kind of took on that
role as a mom for a second. You guided her
into following her heart instead of following what everyone else
wants her to do. Yeah, and then she who I'm
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in the bathroom with which obviously you're gonna the movies
out so you can go watch it. But I feel
like she emerges from the movie the hero and then
the villain is kind of like the record label that
we do have another encourager in the movie that is Brookshields.
So Brookshields has kind of been guiding her throughout the
whole movie to kind of pursue her heart, and she
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never says it out loud like you do. But what
I love about Brooke is that hers is his just
a slow burn into helping Gail feel like she has
a home somewhere else than her career, and it's a
very slow lead up to her making this big decision
to follow her heart. But what you say in that
scene is just like, point blank, I've been here before.
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I've had points in my career where people are telling you,
what were your lines more country, less country, more girly,
less less girly, and but you have to be true
to yourself and you just lay it all out there,
and I think that was the final thing that she
the character needed to hear in order to make that
big life changing decision to walk away. Well, so when
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you're writing a movie and I know you said Holiday
Harmy is like your baby, but you know you had
California Christmas, which you wrote and you start in it
with your husband and that ended up getting a sequel
on Netflix because it killed it. Is that how it works,
like does it have to do really well? And then
y'all decide to move forward with a sequel? Are you
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like him? No matter what, We're going to do a
part two. This is so interesting because usually when you
have a trilogy or a movie that comes with a
part two, you kind of plan for it, Like I'm
were I don't know the creators of All the Boys
I've Loved Before and that franchise, but I'm and it's
based off a book, you know, so I'm sure they've
when they wrote the first movie, they planned for what
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happened in the second and the third. But with California Christmas,
it was just our little movie that could. We didn't
even hire a casting director who picks other actors for
the roles. All of the actors were our friends, the team,
the crew, every it was so tighten it and we
had absolutely no idea that it was going to do
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that well. And so no, I had no plans for
a sequel at all. So when Netflix came to us
and said, hey, we would buy another one, I had
to just completely create a new storyline from where we
left off. So no, there was no plan for a sequel.
And usually that's how it works, there is a plan,
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unless very rarely a movie does really well and they say, hey,
why don't you make a second one, which there are
already talks of the sec and holiday harmony. If it
does well, we have a little soft plan for it
in the works already, which is so fun. Well, if
you need Amy Brown from My Heart Radio to come back,
she can. Yes, she has to because Gale is following
her heart and doing her career her own way, and
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Amy Brown was the person who inspired her to do that.
So I see her coming back. How did you even
get into writing and acting? Okay, so it's different every time,
But I have this huge belief that if we thought
about our world outside of time, like there's a place
where this story already exists in God's mind, you know,
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and he just has to find the right person to
bring it down from the clouds. And so when I
start my process, it's pretty crazy how fast storyline comes
to me and character relationships, character arcs come to me.
It's a really cool experience, but it starts out differently
every time. For California Christmas, the idea actually started just
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out of this little thought I had in my head
about we were driving and I was looking at these
beautiful farm lands in northern California, and I just started
thinking about, Oh my gosh, South Carolina, where my family lives,
there's lots of farmland, and people that work these farms
can't unless they have a full team of people running
these these properties, they can't leave. And I thought, oh
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my gosh, what if there's a what if there was
a girl who never who's never seen snow. And that's honestly,
that's where the idea came about. Was this girl who
works her land. She's worked the land her whole life,
that to the point where she's never seen snow. Now
that quote unquote like never seen snow thing just barely
made it into the Final Movie. But that's where the
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idea just came about, was that tiny little thought I'm
actually writing into a novel first, my first book that
I'm writing. It's called Rain on Me, and it's about
a foster girl in foster care who made a promise
to her brother. They were they were separated in this system,
and they made a promise that on their sixteenth birthday
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they would meet at this certain point. So now she's
about to turn sixteen and she's trying to run from
every house she gets placed in because she has this
promise with her brother that she can't reach. And I
actually just again just daydreaming. I think I was driving started.
One of my friends came out of a foster care
situation where she was separated, and I just was just
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thinking on her story, and this was inspired by that.
So it's different every time. And then with Holiday Harmony,
the studio did get a draft of a script and
it was written by another person. So sometimes this happens
where the studio will get a draft of a script
they love, but they say, hey, Lauren, we want you
to have a female perspective on this, and we wanted
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to be like completely different or just a little bit different.
Can you take this person's story and do something else?
So with Holiday Harmony, this wasn't my general world. His
name is Chris Harville. This was his script. The character
that Brookshields slaves was actually a man, and I changed
it put her into her. You know, she still has
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a car mechanic in her overalls, but now she's this
awesome woman in this role, which I thought was so fun.
So yeah, it's different every time, but every time it's
so enjoyable, and it really does come from the I
think it just comes from the clouds. I love just
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learning more about the process and what it's like for you.
How did you even get into this? I know you're
a very creative person, but what's the first thing you
ever wrote? And when did you realize, Oh, I can
actually do this for a living or I want to
try to do this for a living, because I'm sure
it's two very different things. Okay, the first thing I
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ever wrote, I thought when I was younger, I wanted
to write novels, which now I'm stepping into after all
these years. But the first thing I ever wrote was
a tiny chapter book when I was in fifth grade
about this girl who found a magical seashell in the ocean,
and I've always just loved I've loved storytelling, I've loved writing.
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I went to school at Ohio University, script school with
journalism for writing, and I actually found acting later in
high school. Did it a little bit at Ohio University,
just into some short films and stuff. But I booked
a show that actually didn't make it on air for
CBS through sending in an audition tape from Ohio, and
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then I booked a commercial soon after. So I kept
going to l A and then I just decided to
move because of the show that I thought was going
to get picked up. I didn't realize at the time
that not all shows make it, so acting kind of
just fell into my lap. I never set out to
be an actress. I kind of was in thoughts that
I would always be a writer of some sort, whether
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it was for a magazine or anything kind of creative.
So when I started getting all these these auditions and
I started reading these movie scripts, I was just enthralled
by the formula that was a movie script. And I
was always watching movies and pausing and looking at the
amount of time in a film where the tragedy happened,
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or the character became a new person, and it was
all kind of the same, and it's such a formula,
and I was so interested, so I started taking classes online.
I sold scripts pretty soon after I started writing them,
and I had a writing partner at first, and now
and now I do it alone. I feel like I
was always a writer, and then I kind of found
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screenwriting because of acting, and I'm always writing something. I'm
writing another Christmas movie right now as well. Okay, so
another fun thing that I want to talk about is
your relationship with your husband, Josh, because y'all met acting, right.
We actually met during the meeting with the director after
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we had been cast in the movie. We had this
iconic meeting moment at Warner Brothers underneath the Warner Brothers
water Tower, and he had just come from It was
a West it's a Western movie. It's on Netflix. It's
called Roped, and he had just come from training on
the horse because he had to learn how to rope
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on horseback, and he was wearing muddy cowboy boots and
I thought that he had dressed up for the meeting.
The first thing I said was, I don't remember something
along the lines of me making fun of him a
little bit nice but poking fun that he dressed up
for the director's meeting because he looked he was all
muddy like his character, and I, you know, I thought
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it was so cute, but in reality, he was just training.
He was just doing his jobs. We definitely felt for
each other during the movie, but we decided to stay
just friends. For We said at least two weeks after
the movie we couldn't go on a date because we
wanted to make sure it wasn't movie magic or anything. Well,
you should speak to that because we're just normal people
here and we don't know movie magic. Is there something
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to that? If you have two characters that you know
are in love in the movie, or they're falling in love,
or they have to make out or have certain scenes
like is so that's a real thing that happens, and
then you have to figure out if it's real. Yes,
I mean personally, for me, if you're on location and
filming for three weeks with somebody and you're single, you know,
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when you when you're in a relationship doing these kind
of scenes with someone who's not your husband or boyfriend.
For me, it's totally different. It feels like you're kissing
a cardboard box and there's tons of people around and
it's just completely nothing is happening. But if you're single
and having fun and open for a relationship and you
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start to feel these feelings for somebody that you're doing
all these scenes with, I just think it's healthy to
take a step back and say, Okay, we were forced
into all of these flirtatious moments. Let's just take a
step back and make sure that we still have chemistry
outside of these scenes that are written in a way
to make other people believe that you're building chemistry. Because
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if you're in a position to want that in your
personal life, you're more likely to fall for it because
you're filming and you're, like I've said, forced into these
flirty moments. So I think it's just too healthy as
a actress, because you are forced into kissing somebody that
you just met and saying you love this person, and
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you know, I just think it's healthy if you do
start to feel these little oh, I think you know
there's something here to take a step back, take a
few weeks, take a month, and then if you still
are like, I'm interested in this person, then maybe you know,
act on it, go on a date. But I find
it very different when you're single as an actress and
when you're in a relationship. Well, so he's the co
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star with you. So y'all did roped. But then also
when you'll started doing California Christmas all, y'all were already together. Yes,
we were married, and I was already married. Yes, and
I was actually pregnant with Savannah for the whole filming
and didn't know it. Well, congratulations again, because I know
You'll just announced the baby number two, and by the
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time this episode comes out, we're going to tell people
if it's a boy a girl, and it's a boy,
and so we're so we're just so excited we have
one of each. We thought we were destined for all
girls because I have a sister, Josh has all sisters.
So when they told us it was a boy, we
were so surprised and so excited, happy for y'all. All right,
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let's talk about Holiday Harmony again and have you share
why people should watch this movie. Okay, so a lot
of people when they think of Christmas movies, they think
of these cheesy, super formula films that are pretty much
the same story with different people every time. But Holiday
Harmony is so different. There is gorgeous music in the movie. There,
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there are kids that are pretty hilarious, there's some comedy
in there, and then there's some gut wrenching, heartfelt moments.
It's just not your stereotypical Christmas movie. It's so much
more and it's an experience to watch it. I love
that And would you say it's for the whole family?
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Absolutely everybody can watch it, everybody in the room. You
don't have to send a kid out for any reason.
I'm super passionate about making movies that the entire family
can enjoy and you don't have to worry about covering
ears or sending baby out. My movies will always be
family friendly. Well, I would just encourage people yes to
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check out Holiday Harmony on HBO Max And I am
super grateful for the opportunity that y'all gave me to
be a part of that, and it sparked something in
me at forty one years old. I just enjoyed being
on set with y'all and you couldn't have been more
gracious and kind and helpful. Obviously, me coming in completely
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ignorant and naive, like I knew nothing about acting in
any way, shape or form. But y'all were very patient
and you gave me such helpful tips and I did
what I could with it. But since we filmed back
in May, I have started taking acting lessons in Nashville.
Oh my gosh, I'm so excited for you. Okay. First
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of all, you were such a light onset. Everybody loved
your presence and sity to you. Guys were just such
a breath of fresh air. And you brought your talents
as as hosts to the role that I couldn't have
even written for because I don't know that world at all,
and I just kind of gave it my best shot,
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and you guys completely brought exactly what the movie needed
in those scenes. And you guys were so kind and
just wonderful. And we love you, guys, We love my
heart and that makes me so happy. Not that you
need acting lessons. I mean, guys, when you watch this movie, Amy,
you're unnatural. I'm not kidding. Everyone was talking about it afterwards, like, Wow,
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we didn't know because we wanted you guys in the
movie obviously, No matter what we were going to make
it work. We didn't expect you guys to be so natural.
I don't really know how hosting We're your job works,
but there are very specific lines and you have to
hold beats and all of these things, and you guys
killed it. We didn't expect you guys to do what
we did. You guys are talented, talented and talented humans. Well,
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thank you, Lauren, y'all, your whole team, y'all are definitely
the real talent. I was just blown away by the
whole process and experience, and I don't know what's going
to happen with it. I just I know that it
lit something in me, and I thought, well, I can't
let the fact that I'm forty one or any self
doubt that creeps up into my head. In fact, it
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was the negative thoughts in my head that made me
just want to go for it even more, even if
it was just to take some lessons and dig deep
and challenge myself and maybe you know, similar to you
throw out some auditions, see where they go. Maybe it's
a commercial. There's different mom roles or different things that
might be needed out there, and I'm sure I'll deal
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with some rejection, maybe a lot along the way. If
I do decide to put myself out there, but that's
also okay too, and I'm actually excited about that. It's
something about a season in my life where I'm looking
for the challenge and the growth. And it took a
few weeks to process. But then I had a thought,
and then I started having the negative thoughts, and then
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that made me want to just go ahead and pursue
at least the acting lessons, because what's the harm. And
then I need to push myself a little bit and
see what happens. Yes, how inspiring is that for you
to say, oh, my gosh, I'm having all of these
negative thoughts, but I really want to try this, but
negative thoughts, negative thoughts, and then you push past that
and actually go for it even harder because of your
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thoughts getting in the way. I think that is so
inspiring and awesome, and I'm definitely going to try and
do that in aspects of my life as a young mom.
It's interesting being in this industry with kids because not
a lot of people in my position have kids, and
there are a lot of negative, you know, thoughts coming
in about me now being held back, etcetera. But how
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inspiring is that that's amazing and you are such a natural. Yes,
acting does come with rejection, but I can't imagine it
being a lot for you. We have already talked about
using you in other movies, so that's probably going to
happen soon. I better up my acting lessons a little
bit more. But seriously, just so much, so much gratitude
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for the opportunity, so seaking of gratitude since it is
Thanksgiving Day when people are hearing this, but also if
it wasn't, we'd be doing four things gratitude anyway, because
we do that with all of our guests. But if
you could share four things that you're currently thankful for,
that'd be awesome. I think the first would be my heritage,
all of my my mom, my mom's mom, everybody who
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have has passed out, my faith. Just whether where my
talent came from, I believe it's in my blood somewhere
from somebody. I'm just so thankful for the family that
I have, and I know a lot of people just
are yearning for that sense of belonging and I really
have it in my family and my friends, and I'm
grateful for that. I'm grateful for my health and my
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family's health. I know that people, especially around the holidays,
who are struggling with disease and loss because of disease.
It's really hard, and I'm very thankful for my health,
thankful for my husband, who is a wonderful dad. I'm
wrapping up a lot of things right now, so I'm
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really busy, and he has just even with him being
on his show General Hospital, he has a lot of
hours at home and he's just the best dad, just super,
super playful. Savannah and him have such a strong bond
and it's the sweetest thing to be a part of
and to just watch happen, and I can't wait to
see them when they grow up. And then another thing
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I'm super thankful for is my career. I know how
hard it is to be in the entertainment industry and
get the opportunities that I've been given, and I just
hope that I can in the position that I'm in,
that I can just keep blessing people and keep bringing
people up and giving them the chance and not judging
people for anything aside from their potential that I see,
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and just trying to get them to get an opportunity,
because it's really hard in this business. Well, I love
those four things. Just to piggyback off that final one,
I feel like you're very it did to lifting up
women and empowering women. And I don't know if that
was your purpose in changing the character in Holiday Harmony
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and making it the mechanic female and putting Brookshields in
that place, but I remember you being passionate when you
were talking to me about being you know, Sissy and
I both female radio hosts. When there's plenty of males
y'all could have chosen from that have a bigger name
than than we do. But it seemed cool that you
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picked two female talent to come in and do that.
And then my scene in the bathroom having a female
uplift another female who's the main lead, like, it just
seemed very a lot of female empowerment happening. Yes, that
is one of my passions. I want to bring women
who have just the utmost potential to be amazing, and
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I just want to keep bringing them in and uplifting them,
and exactly that is one of one of my passions.
And not that I'm against men and and all of
the talent they have. I just think it's time for
women to be put in the position to show what
they're capable of and all of the talent that they have.
And I'm so happy that we live in this day
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and age where we can do that for each other.
That's definitely what I have passion. So yes, I'm glad
that came through when you were with me because I
try so hard. Well, Lauren, thank you so much. If
people want to find you on Instagram, your handle, it's
just at Lauren Swickard, right, Yes, it's just my name,
Lauren Swickard. Yeah, Lauren Swickard. And she really is just
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the sweetest and basically, come Christmas time you can just
pull up either Netflix or HBO Max and watch a
bunch of movies with her like yea. But Holiday Harmony
in particular today is on HBO Max. So super thankful
to be a part of it. And yeah, Lauren, Happy Thanksgiving,
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Happy Thanksgiving. Thank you for having me again. I loved
it so much and I miss you so happy to
see you. Well, we're going to talk to Anne. Lisa
X two is the star of Holiday Harmony, so she'll
be on next all right. I am sitting here now
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with the Star of Holiday Harmony, Annelie Sapiro, which I
was just talking to Lauren Annelie, and she said that
you are hands down a super star. Like when they
were doing the editing and putting it all together, she
just was like, you're it. It's the sweetest thing. Well,
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they made that experience amazing. So thank you for telling
me that, and thank you for having me. Yeah. Well,
I'm happy to have you here. And I want to
know how you got into acting and singing and how
you even knew you wanted to make a career out
of all of Well, I grew up in a family
that has always really respected and loved and appreciated music
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and the arts. And I have an older sister who
was a ballerina and a competitive gymnast, and then she
was a competitive cheerleader. So following suit, my mom put
me in ballet classes, as one does when they're they're little,
but I took it pretty seriously. I studied ballet um
at School of American Ballet and Ballet Hispanaco, which are
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two really wonderful schools in New York City until I
was about thirteen. And at the same time, my mom
kind of discovered I had a singing voice, so she
urged me to join school choir in elementary school, so
that's kind of where it started. But it wasn't until
I got to middle school. My middle school had a
wonderful theater program. We started setting Shakespeare, so we were
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in Shakespeare like twelve eleven years old, which was amazing.
I loved it. And it wasn't until then and I
met my first vocal teacher, Miss Jenkins, who I'm still
friends with to this day, who was music teacher at
my middle school, who kind of brought me under her
wing and saw that I had potential to to really
make something of my voice and started teaching me. I
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had had vocal lessons with her every Friday from when
I was like twelve years old until eighteen years old,
so she really taught me everything I knew, you know.
And then I went to high school and I did
musical theater. I started doing musicals um that they had
in school, also doing a summer program that I absolutely
loved that kind of brought me out of my shell
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to do musicals. During this summer and junior year of
high school, I thought, oh, maybe I could do something
with this, and it wasn't something I was afraid of.
I just thought, Okay, this makes sense I'm kind of
good at it. I really enjoy doing it. It gives
me this whole other creative space to to find a
voice in and and and it kind of blossomed from there. Well,
you're basically j Lo like threat you could act, and
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now I know you can dance, so I can move.
But I have not taken like a serious dance class
in a while, so the dancing could be better. Well, okay,
let's talk about Holiday Harmony and what was that process
like for you. Did they reach out to you or
did you audition for the role or how did you
get roll? And tell us a little bit about your character,
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and then we'll get to our scene because I have
a very important question for you about what went down
between you and me in the bathroom. Yes, well I
did audition. I got an audition in my email as
we do um last January, and I remember not hearing
anything for a while, and then about a month or
so later, I got a callback and that's where I
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got to meet Sean and Lauren and Ali, and about
a week after that I found it I had the role.
So it was kind of a crazy process because usually
with actors, you know, you either hear nothing ever, or
you have to go through callback after callback after callback
after callback after callback to get a role. So this
was kind of a happy supera. It just kind of
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happened so fast. And then we went into filming not
long after that, and I had to learn the guitar
for this role, and I had never picked one up before,
and so I wish I had more time, but I
think we had something like four weeks for me to
try and look like I knew what I was doing
on the guitar. And I had an amazing, amazing teacher
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here in Jersey who helped gave me kind of a
crash course on on the guitar, and and that was it,
and then we were on our way. It was kind
of fast and furious, but it was the most rewarding experience.
Speaking of one moment where you were on stage with
a guitar, that is where Sissony and I are sitting
there watching you. It's this dramatic moment. I don't want
to give anything totally away because I want people to
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go to HBO Max and watch it, but let's just
say you end up in the bathroom after that stage
guitar scene situation, and then I end up in the
bathroom with you, and it's a movie, so or a
shot like any show. Sometimes you do one take, sometimes
you might do fifty takes. We probably did a handful.
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And it was our very first one though, when you
were supposed to cry. But I didn't know your script
that well. I just was so busy. I've never acted
before in my life, so I was so focused on
my lines and just not messing them up. And I
didn't know your details of what your character was supposed
to do, so I did not know that you were
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supposed to cry right then, like I didn't know like
your you had your lines in parentheses, you know, tears,
And it was our first time through, and I said
what I was supposed to say, and then all of
a sudden, I see these tears in your eyes, and
I had to tell you. In my head, I was like, wow,
I am good, like you are good though, But ay
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there was the thing was is like, I don't remember
in the script they're saying she gets emotional, Gail tear.
Did you see it? I don't remember. No, I don't
remember it saying that. But our scene is so important
in the film because you're the one who tells me.
You know, you got to follow your own voice. Women,
we have to support each other. And so I knew
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how important that scene was, and you delivered it so
authentically that it did move me and it moved Gail
as well. But you know you are great, like it
was you. Well, thank you. But you know, the more
takes we did, I think you're right. I don't know
if it's said for sure you needed tears, but I
think you assessed in that moment, oh this is this
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is a powerful scene and there's there needs to be
some emotion. So it was just funny to me that
my my naive brain was like, oh wow, I moved
her to tears. But then we did the scene five
times and you were able to have the tears every time,
and I was like, oh, she's just an amazing actress.
Oh gosh, well thank you. No, but you made that
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such a joyful scene to do, even though you know
there was emotional stakes. I have the best time with you.
You were great. And how did you feel going into that.
I mean I remember you guys telling me that you
were nervous. You guys nailed it. I was very nervous,
but everybody on set was so amazing that it made
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the whole experience comfortable, and she gave me so many pointers.
There was a time outside of the bathroom. I think
you were already in there, maybe doing something, and I
was waiting to come in, and she was running over
things with me, even last minute. I was doing them
one way, and she was like, no, no, no, no,
I want you to think about it this way, and
then she would give me the tone and the vibe
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and it just was so helpful. I felt like she
just was so invested in and in such a thoughtful
kind way, like time is money. I get it. It's
a movie set, and there was you know, we needed
to be here and there was a lot going on
and that was a very long day. But throughout all
of that and some of the chaos, everybody was cool.
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So I think I got lucky in having that. You know,
that was my first experience with acting, because I'm sure
that not every set is that way. Yeah, I mean,
well that's why I was saying. I mean, they made
this experience what it was because of so much generosity
that was given to all the actors, to everybody on set,
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and freedom with creativity, and also just a lot of thoughtfulness,
like you said, going into explaining, Okay, this is where
we are in the story now, this is what's happening
around us, this is how we're feeling. There was so
much grace and thoughtfulness, and they handled it with such
love and it was a loving set, which made it
so much easier for everybody. But I mean, yet, it's
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not always like that, like you're saying, time is money. Um,
I've been on sets before where it's felt very fast
paced and it kind of feels like you might not
have as much creative say as you would like, and
you know, you are there to serve a certain purpose
of the story and you kind of just got to
do your job, you know. And that's great too, because
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I mean I haven't had any negative experiences, I can
say that, and I'm very grateful for that. But they're
all different, They definitely all are different. Yeah. The fun
thing that just popped into my head about time is
money is I guess there's a certain amount of time
or only a certain amount of time they can go
by without feeding the people on set, right, I don't
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know the lingo, but I don't know would that be union?
I yeah, clearly, And I'm new to this, but I
filmed whatever, and then a month later something a check
came in the mail and I was like, what, this
is weird? What is this money for? Because I had
already you know, gotten whatever my movie part. And it
said something like because we didn't get fed on time,
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And I was like, what because they didn't feed me
dinner on time? Last It's awesome that but they take
that so seriously too, they and it's great, I mean
they we need to take care of ourselves on set.
We gotta make sure we drip water, we gotta make
sure we're eating. But also, you know, a lot of
the time during Holiday Harmony, we had so much to
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film and we didn't have the most time ever. I
think we had a little bit more of a month
that there would be days where we had to kind
of go over hours and you would get a notification
and in your emails saying, hey, you know, we're going
to start a little earlier than we're supposed to, but
you know you'll be compensated for that. You know. It's
a whole thing. Yeah, it makes me think too, how
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I mean, I'm sure this happens often. You have to
adjust the script on the fly because there was a
scene that you and I were supposed to do that
got cut because we ended up filming and it got
dark outside and then we didn't have enough time, so
there's no way we could do the scene. You were
supposed to be in a car and then I was
getting in a car and then you waved up me
in the car, but it needed to be light out.
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I think I don't or just for times, they just
scratched the whole scene. But I just remember trying to
practice for that moment and my lines and making sure
I have everything just right, and then they're like, yeah, scratch,
we're not doing it anymore. I can't remember what the
reason why. I think it was because it was supposed
to be light out and they had been talking about
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it the whole day, about this scene between you and I,
and they were saying, I don't know, I don't know
because it's getting dark, and I don't even know how
they fixed it before the storyline. I'm like, how did
how did you guys fix it? It amazes me in
the editing room what they do. So we shall see
things change on the fly all the time, and you
just have to roll with it. You just have to
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be have to be breezy. Who are people that you
look up to in your world or who has had
the biggest influence on you. First and foremost my mother,
And I said a little bit before that she was
somebody who was always championing me from when I was
little when she saw that I loved to do something thing,
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which was the arts, and she really went full force
with putting me in every program that that you could
imagine for me to learn from the best and gain experience.
She never never had a second thought that, you know,
this isn't a promising career, maybe you should think about
something else, or maybe you should mine earn something else
or major and something else in school because this may
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not work out. You know. She never ever had that
that thought, which I'm so grateful for that. So my
mother absolutely and you know she raised raised me as
mostly a single mother, working hard, um a working woman,
and for me, she'll be my forever inspiration. But other
than my mother, I mean I was thinking about that today.
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I'm like, who was the first person I saw on
screen who I was just like wow? And I think
it was probably um Mariska Harget in Law and Order SPU,
because that is my favorite show to this day. And
I started watching that when I was too young to
watch it. I think I started at six years old
with my mother watching that show. But I remember seeing
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you know, Detective Olivia Benson on the screen and just
her strength and her confidence and her passion and her
dedication to the cause of what you know, Special Victims
Unit is UM and not even just on screen, but
in her real life as well, because you've been in
Law and Order SPU. Right. So I finally got my
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chance last year after I had auditioned for it for
a few years and UM never got a chance, and
finally I I booked one of the roles last year,
and that was the scariest moment of my life. I
had never been more nervous on the set, and I
think it was because I'm their biggest fan, so I'm like,
they're crazy, biggest fan, trying to like contain myself and
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remember my lines. It was so scary, but it was,
I mean, it was an incredible experience. What was your episode?
I think the episodes called Nightmares and Drill City. I
played Jasmine Castro and she was a victim truly, but
was made just to look like the bad guy. She
she helped kind of lure this innocent young woman into
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their their gang, and um, you know it was at fault,
but it was a victim as well, so I mean
it was it was a complex character to play. She
was definitely brainwashed, which was which was fun to play
as an actor. But I didn't end up dead. Lauren
and I were just talking about the four characters that
show up in storylines, the hero, the victim, the guide,
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and the villain, and we were talking about your role
in Holiday Harmony, about how you are the hero and
for a minute in the bathroom, I'm your guide. Yeah,
but that Brooks Shields, like her character is more of
your guide along the way. But it's just amazing that,
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you know, we had two strong female guides in this movie. That,
I mean, I thought that was amazing. I was thinking
about that the other day to you and Brookshields. Oh well,
extpinitely more of the main character. But it's yeah, we
were talking about those four and it's interesting. You were
talking about your Law and Order character and how you
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were made to look like a villain or some if
they don't have the whole story, would think you're the villain,
but really you were write victim. Yeah, absolutely, and that's
exactly what it was. It was my character is there's
definitely more to the story here, which unfortunately we don't have,
you know, all the time in the world to explore.
But but I mean it's sometimes those are the most
interesting roles to play so complex. Yeah, well, it is
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Thanksgiving Day when people are hearing this. But something I
always do with guests, whether it's a day of gratitude
or not, is I like to ask for things that
you are currently thankful for. They can be big and small.
I know you mentioned your mom in a minute ago
and how grateful you are for her and the roles
she's played in in your life and in your dreams.
But it could be you know, your favorite drink, your
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favorite TV show, your favorite movie. It could be, like,
you know, if you went on a walk today, just
four things you're thankful for. Okay, well, first and foremost,
you know, my loved ones, including my friends, my my family,
my boyfriend. But just the ability to be creative in
any sense of the word. It doesn't even have to
mean being on a set or anything, but just being
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able to create peace, which for me these past couple
of months, I've been really working on trying to find
the peace in my life, and I think that goes
hand in hand with balance, um, and I think I'm
finally getting there. So peace. And the fourth thing mushroom coffee.
So I just recently cut out caffeine from my diet
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just because I felt like that was giving me crazy anxiety.
And I discovered mushroom coffee, and wow, has it changed
my life? Oh? Is it like the Elick Sir stuff
for sigmatic? Have you tried that? I was contemplating trying
that one or mud water, because I know those are both.
This one is called rise are y Z and it's delicious.
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My friend Jamila got me on it and she's like,
I promise it's good, and it was it is. I
drank some this morning. Oh yeah, I'll have to try
that one. I love coffee, but there's times, you know,
where maybe I don't need another cup of it me
every day. I'm not gonna give it, give it up
at all. But I understand, you know, having to assess,
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and that's good that you know your body and no,
you can tell that hey, this this isn't making me
feel right, or this is giving me anxiety and you know.
I can't help but think too you getting into this
world so young. Have you watched Selena gomez Is Mental
Health show and Apple yet? I haven't yet, And I
just saw a clip of on Instagram and I was like, oh,
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I've got to watch this today. I haven't. It's on
my list, okay, so people can just they can watch
Holiday Harmony and then they can go watch this Selena
Gomezes show. So it's on my list. But I couldn't
help when you were talking, it just popped into my
head to think of you, to make sure that you
do watch that, because I feel like I I could probably
resonate with you. Oh. Absolutely, Now I'm looking forward to it. Yeah,
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thank you so much, Analyze for coming on. If people
can find you on Instagram, which just it's just your name, Analyze,
but I'm gonna spell it for people because, you know,
just so they get it right and I want them
to go. I follow you now and I enjoy you're
just you on there. But I always feel like your
pictures are very beautiful and sometimes art and like I
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can tell that you have a love for your family
and your boyfriend. Yeah, thank you for um, Analyze. Saparo
A n in E L I S E C E
P E r O boom. We got it all right.
Holiday Harmony HBO Max. You'll check it out and then
make sure you follow along analyze. You never know where
(55:56):
she might pop up on your TV or on the
big screen. Thank you for having me. Yeah, so good
to talk with you, all right, thanks for listening to
this special episode. I hope y'all are having the Thanksgiving
that you need to have. You like that, Cat, I
love That's the best way to end anything. Yeah. And
(56:17):
if you need any therapy uh this weekend because you know,
hanging out with family and you can't get to it, well,
you need therapy. Podcast is a tool that you can
have in your back pocket. It is not a replacement
for therapy. But that is a podcast that Cat hosts
and she's a licensed therapist, so maybe there will be
some helpful tools. You should do a whole episode surviving
the holidays with family drama. Maybe I am doing that?
(56:40):
Are you? You'll have to subscribe to find out. Oh
nice teaser there we're getting got officially subscribing. Um, don't
forget to post on socials if you watch Holiday Harmony
and tag me, I can't wait to surprise someone with
a gift card. And again I wish I had a
gift card for every single person, but we're not there yet.
(57:01):
I'll put it on my vision board and don't forget.
You can shop with a purpose this holiday season at
the Shop Forward. There are so many amazing gift ideas
up there that give back and it's high quality stuff.
And I would say be aware of knockoff pullovers and
other things that are not from the shot forward website,
which even if you go to four Things dot com
(57:22):
or shop spot dot com you'll see that you're being
redirected to the shop Forward website. It's all part of
the same thing. But if you're buying the knockoffs from
other places, there's not the same quality and there is
no donation attached at all. So I just want you
all to be aware that there are knockoffs out there
the shot forward dot com for items that get back
(57:44):
that are super cute. You'll also find all pimp and
joy items up there if you want to spread a
message of joy this Christmas season. Oh and we do
this every year and it's always a huge hit. But
four Things custom Christmas pullovers are now available. This is
a limited thing, but they're super cute. For the holidays.
You can put whatever four things that you love about
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Christmas on a very popular red pull over. It's the
same black pull over that we have for the four things.
I'm fine pull over the everybody loves, but you just
have to make it. Thirteen characters are less. They really
make great pullovers to war to Christmas parties, holiday events.
Matching family pajamas if y'all are into that, or a
family photo and everyone in the family gets their own
(58:26):
customized pullover, but then you all wear the same flannel
pajamas on the bottom. Those pictures are always so cute.
If you want to customize some for friends and give
it to them as their Christmas present, then do it now,
because against a limited time thing. My four things on
my red pull over our baby Jesus, Mariah Carey, family
Time Cookies. Our friend Lauren Petrovsky has one that says Sparkles,
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Hallmark Holiday Cheer, Xmas Vacation. Our friend Keaton has one
that says Christmas fresh Pine ice, skating, Satan Nick. So really,
whatever four things you want that you love about this season,
and then the shop Forward has a whole list that
you can choose from the things that are thirteen characters
are less that are very Christmasy and holiday ish for you.
So you can go to their instagram and click on
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the pictures with the red pullovers with the four Things
and then swipe and you'll see the full list and
their handle is at the Shop Forward. So yeah, get excited.
These are something fun, but they're not always available, so
if you want to order them, I would start thinking
of the four Things and get to the site and
order them. That's four Things dot com and they support Haiti.
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There's a spat on the sleeve hope in Haitian creole,
and then there's also a little Christmas tree detail on
the sleeve as well, which is just a super cute touch.
So yeah, Cat, your mom shops the Shop Forward at times.
I know, like for the holidays, she's literally given I
think she did something for Christmas last year. But for
my mom loves to give a gift, So for Valentine's
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Day and Easter she gave us all gifts from the shopboard. Nice.
You know. I mentioned earlier too that it's my friend
Andrew's birthday and she may it's the most beautiful vintage
ornament wreaths like, they are so cool if you want
to check out her instagram if you're into that sort
of vibe for your holiday decor, these are stunning. And
her handle is at Tanner's Bride Wreaths and then my
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friend Sunday. She also has awesome gift ideas. She had
a giveaway at my four Things Live podcast and I
feel like the recipient of that gift bag was super cute.
The Shop Forward also donated stuff to you know that
was given out, and then we had root House coffee
and olive in June, nail polish. So is Sunday's store
called oh, it's called mocking Bird on Broad. The website
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is mocking Bird on broad dot com. Thanks to you know,
all of those people that donated to the live giveaways.
But yeah, the mocking Bird was a part of that,
and Sunday is awesome. So if you want to support
another woman run business, which the Shot Forward is run
by Mary woman Ashley works there. Woman like, these are
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all businesses that are run by amazing women. So get
I'm up all right, Happy Thanksgiving, Happy movie release Day,
thank you, Okay, bye m HM