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September 18, 2025 14 mins

Amber sent us an email about something we’ve all felt. That little spiral when a friend takes forever to text you back and you start wondering if you did something wrong. Amy & Kat talk about how our brains love to make up stories, and how we won't know what's really going on unless we ask them. Amy immediately relates to this listener and shares her experience. They also make up some fun, new acronyms that might come in handy when you're starting to spiral. Speaking of acronyms, is it not cool to text 'lol' anymore? Apparently, it's "ick" along with no-show socks. Ugh.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just fons Amy
and Kat gotcha Covin locking a brother, Ladies and folks,
do you just follow an the spirit where it's all
the phone over, real stuff, tell the chill stuff and
am but Swayne. Sometimes the best thing you can do
it jes stop you feel things. This is Feeling.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Things with Amy and Kat. Happy Thursday, Welcome to Couch
Talks the Q and a episode for our Feeling Things podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat. And quick disclaimer before we
get into today's question. Although we're answering your questions, this
does not serve as actual therapy.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
No, it does not, but we hope it helps. We
have an email from a listener Amber, and she said, Hey,
Amy and Kat, I'd love your take on something that's
been messing with my head lately. One of my closest
friends and I have always been great about texting back
and forth. Lately, though, she takes hours, sometimes days to reply,
and I catch myself feeling hurt or wondering if I
did something wrong. I know she's busy with work and

(01:05):
her kids, but I can't seem to shake the thought
that her slower responses mean she doesn't value our friendship
as much anymore. Part of me feels silly for caring,
but the other part worries that I might be missing
some unspoken tention. How do I stop taking this so personally?
And how does one tell if a friend's new texting
pattern is about you or life just being life. I

(01:29):
actually had this exact conversation with a friend about two
weeks ago, and I didn't think of it until I
was reading the email and I was like, Oh, I
was feeling like, what the heck happened to this friendship.
It's kind of weird, like it's been so distant, and
it's just weird, like the texting is off and there's
long gaps, and I was feeling insecure about it. And
then come to find out there's a really big reason why.

(01:51):
And I didn't know the reason, it all made sense
and I sort of had this exhale and I went
ahead and owned up to that person. I was like, oh,
my gosh, this all makes sense and I totally get it.
I have to admit I thought for a minute I
had either done something wrong, or maybe this was a
season in our friendship, or maybe our friendship was shifting entirely,
and I just had to accept that because I didn't

(02:11):
want to be dramatic and bring it up. But I
don't think that questioning it is being dramatic. If y'all
have had a certain friendship or texting relationship, you could
totally ask because it more than likely is life being life?
But I am curious, like the therapist's viewpoint on it,
because I'm the horrible texture.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Well, what was the last question? The last sentence in
that question, it was like, how do I tell? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I kind of fumbled when I was reading it because
I you were like, I'm going into this. Yeah, that's
when I started. I had another conversation going on in
my head of like, oh my gosh, this is me.
So I'll read it verbatim. How do I stop taking
this so personally? And how do you tell if a
friend's new texting pattern is you or life just being life?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Okay, that's important. That last part is how do you tell?
You can't tell unless you ask the questions because we're
making things up.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
I made up a whole story and it like wasn't
Once I found out the real story, I was like, oh,
and I just was like, this totally makes sense, and
it never occurred to me that that could be this. Yeah,
but I had already accepted that maybe our friendship was
just kind of done.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
So I didn't even like that.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
I didn't like it, but I felt like if I
confronted that that I was being needy or dramatic. But
I want to say to others that's that shouldn't keep
you from confronting a friendship that you care about. Well,
I think that maybe not confronting, but just asking.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
I think the word confronting and the idea of confrontations
has been turned into something that it isn't like confrontations
and confronting somebody can be so simple, no big deals.
We should be able to communicate that way because in
any relationship there's going to be bumps in the road.
So I love this because the only way for you

(03:55):
to know is to say, like, hey, I've noticed a
shift in this. My question would be why does this
have to be I say this a lot in sessions
like this doesn't have to be a come to Jesus meeting.
It doesn't have to be the biggest deal in the world.
You can just say, hey, I've noticed this, what's up
or I've noticed this I'm making up in a story
in my head. Is everything okay? You can just check

(04:15):
in with your friend. It doesn't mean that you're having
this huge confrontation and there's going to be this big
backlash and you guys aren't going to be friends anymore,
or it's going to be so uncomfortable. I wish that
check ins like that could be more normal in friendships.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Ooh, let's normalize check ins. Well, this was our problem
back when we did the let them very deep dive
of like they don't want to text you back and
let them. Well, then you're left wondering, you're making this story,
say that's in your head, that may not be true,
and then a friendship gets more distant and more distant
and then potentially lost simply because you're just letting them,
which eventually, if someone wanted to, they would circle back around.

(04:53):
But life is lifing. When life is lifing too much,
time passes and then you're like you're looking around and
you're like, what happened our friendship? And neither one of
you wanted that to happen. So that was just a
little yeah let them theory, don't let them, don't let them.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
That's good. I think that either way that this goes,
either you check in with your friend and they're like, actually,
this thing happened and it really hurt my feelings, and
I've been like wanting to reach out, but I have
been just like convincing myself not to because I don't
want to make a big deal. But it really has
hurt my feelings and then you have a chance to
repair or your friend is like, oh my gosh, no,

(05:27):
I've just been really overwhelmed. I mean, there's a million
ways that this could go, but like all signs lead to,
like you get to get an answer to a question
that is affecting you.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I think this is also a reminder that sometimes we
make things about us that have nothing to do with us.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yes, we take things personally, and chances are it's about
her and her life and we just have egos and
so we assume everything's.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, what right now? It says six hundred and thirteen
over by my text messages like my red bubble, But
then when I go to my text messages, it says
one eighty.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Do you have group? Are those group messages? Or is
that like.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Maybe who knows? I mean, you see the blue dots
I try to go through, like when I'm on an
airplane and I have time, Like I'm sitting there and
I force myself and I'm like, you have nothing else
to do when you can't respond to clean your photos? Well, no,
I just try to open up because a lot of
them are like, you know, fifteen percent off these shoes,
and I'm like, okay, and I might have twenty of

(06:28):
those from that company and I haven't opened them. So
if I just go clear that out, then my numbers dwindle.
So it's not me being totally disrespectful. Yeah. Popular, it's
not me being popular. It's not me being rude to
that many people. Then when I do get backed up though,
that's how I miss going back to other people that
are important to me that I do want to reply to,

(06:51):
but then I forget.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah. So you're a perfect example of sometimes you.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Life life well, yeah, and texts overwhelming period.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah. So if you're overwhelmed because there is a bunch
of texts, well, and here's something that happens to me
is like if I don't answer a text and then
like I tell myself, I'm gonna answer this later, but
I keep forgetting and then two weeks go by, Well
then I feel shame for not answering it, so then
I start avoiding it, when really that makes it worse
because now it's in three weeks or four weeks or whatever.

(07:21):
That's all about me and my feelings, not about me
wanting to reach out to them or not. Is that? Yeah?
Make sense? And so yeah, we could go through the
scenarios and we could have a bajillion stories that are
about everything else except you. And then there's one scenario
where it's about you, And so chances are it's not
about you. And let's say it is you. Checking in

(07:44):
with your friend is only going to help you either
solve something and figure out what you need. It's not
going to hurt you. If it ruins the friendship, well
you don't have a friendship anyway, right now.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, the odds are it's just LL. It's just what LL.
Life is lifing.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Oh did we talk about that?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
No, but you know we love a good acronym around here.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, change starts L A L so mbd W.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Do just see if you can meet them, just meet
up in ril in real life?

Speaker 1 (08:17):
And did you I added one?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
What the what the what? WTW you came up with
this wtw oh, wait to worry? I did it. My
boyfriend's dad did wait to worry? Sorry, I was thinking WWJD.
What the what would okay, what would Jesus do?

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Okay, how many more acronyms do we have that? We
do a lot of it? Did you see that gin
zers don't like l O L?

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Okay? I need to stop using it so much though,
I will send it in like seven techs in a row.
It's like that's my new period.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's like at the end of everything and you're not
even saying anything laugh out loud word, but you're just like,
I'm on my way L.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I didn't know that they didn't like it. Why don't
they like it? What do they say? Ha ha ha
ha ha ha ha.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
All I saw was the headline that they did want
millennials to stop it with the L O L like
it's ick. It's the it's giving them the ick. So
I don't know everything replace it. But here's like, are
we supposed to use the laughing emoji?

Speaker 1 (09:18):
But which use that one anymore? You use the skeleton dead? Okay?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
I do that sometimes, So I'm.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, because you can't do the laughing emogi anymore.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
So now we just do dead.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
What are you say? My way dead? Rawful? What's the
one that's like rolling around?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I never did. I hate laughing.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I hate that one. Or what's the l m ao
oh laughing my ao. Yeah, Okay, here's the thing. Gen
Z thinks everything we do is cringe, and you know what,
it might be cringed to them, but I like how
I live my life and how I do want to
stop using loll as much, but I still like it.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Like I about two weeks ago, I went back to
wearing ankle socks. Ship well you can't see them.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Wait no, I had urged to do that again, and
I was like, no, we can't, but I sometimes like
it better.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I'm telling you. I had the urge. So I went
back to no show socks and I did it for
about a week and then my algorithm fed me some
other thing from someone my age that was like helping us,
helps you style life, and she's like things I would
never do in my forties, you know, in the big
exer it. And then she has on this really cute
outfit and she was like, stop it with the no

(10:28):
show socks, y'all, we've got to get. You got to
get on board with these socks, and these are the
ones you need to get. And I already had the
one she was linking from Amazon with the cute little
ruffle like the like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
You have one right now, but I wanted to put
regular socks on today. But I was like to show yes,
because sometimes I think it looks better.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Well, according to her, okay, well Kat cry okat over here,
running cameras is no show for life. But I went
back to it and I tried, and I really was
embracing it. And then I saw that one video and
I suddenly got self conscious again and I was like, no,
I'm not going to do it. I like the little
ruffel ankle socks so cute.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Here's a new acronym, what ww w D or WWID.
I was gonna say, what would we do or what
would I do? Instead of asking what somebody else.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
What I What I do is take advice from people
on line.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
That know better.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Me have to ask her, Like I follow her for
a reason because she's helping me.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
But you know how I have my crisis of like
I don't know how to dress anymore. Yeah, it's because
I have stopped asking myself what do I like? And
I keep trying to like stay in the trends, but like,
I don't relate to a lot of the trends. Like
some of them I do, but some of them, like
I don't want, like if skinny Dreams come back, I
don't want to wear those. It's like I want to
start asking myself what do I like? Because I'm never

(11:50):
going to be the most fashionable person, and I also
don't care.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I just like, so, WDIL what do I like?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
What do yes? WDL?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Wait wait yeah WL.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Okay, new one. Okay, thanks for sending this question because
we got here and now I have a new question
to ask.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Thank you, Amber, and talk to your friend about it.
But also it's probably not about you, so just give
her time because she's again l L. Life is life
in again like what was one? Well, the more you,
the more we say it, the mortal stick just like
sick l I L.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Talk to your friends and wear whatever socks you want.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
To, especially the ones from Amazon to keep a little
uffle like you have on now. I went back to them.
I don't think I'm gonna go back to the.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Notion I really like Bomba socks. Because they're like company,
I wanted to wear this today.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
These are not comfortable. No cushion, no cushion. Well, I
know they're like four dollars from Amazon.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
They're just fashion. I'm not trying to be on in
the fashion times today. I was trying to be comfy.
Should wear my bombas w W I l bombas well.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Also, here's the thing about us, our friendship. If you
walked in the bombas, I wouldn't be judging you. That's
also my discomfort with this person I follow, which I appreciate. Okay,
I do have a complicated relationship with her because sometimes I'm.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Like, who do you know her?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
No, I have no idea who she is. I can't
even tell you her name right now because I just
started following her because she seems like a normal, average
forty sonthingter Mom. It's not like over the top. It's
not like high fashion type stuff, and it's not overwhelming stuff,
and it's not like, hey, you need to go buy this,
this and this. It's more of like you probably have
these things in your closet, so I'm telling you to

(13:31):
style it this way now and if not, then here's
a link. I mean, I'm sure she links things, but
I more so follow her of like she does a
good job of, like this is how I used to
wear it like five years ago, and this is how
I would refresh the same look for twenty twenty five. Oh,
so that's why I appreciate it. But then also I
get overwhelmed. So some days I take the feedback, I'm

(13:54):
like yay, And then other days, if I have other
things going on and the whole thing seems overwhelming to me,
I get annoyed and I'm like, well, who made you?
Who made you decidey gets to go in here and
say I would never be caught dead wearing this. A
loser if you're wearing it, because that's because I look
down and I'll be like, I'm wearing that.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
But also most things that become like on trend are
like ugly at first.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Oh yeah, like I said, I was never gonna wear
barrel jeans. Some wearing barrels So.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I'm just on trend with Bomba socks. You haven't gotten.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
There yet, yeah, but no show socks were in.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
But the cycle always comes back around.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
It will come back, so we should just never let
it leave it day and we should just do what.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
We want, and that's how we'll end it today.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, we hope you have the day you need to have. Bye.
Bye

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