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October 23, 2025 17 mins

Amy and Kat respond to a listener who’s feeling...meh. Life looks great on paper: the house, the kids, the routines, but something feels stuck. Is it an early midlife crisis or just part of being in your 30s? The girls talk about how even a beautiful life can feel a little uninspired sometimes, why that’s totally normal, and how to start creating a spark instead of waiting for one to show up.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just fons Amy
and Cat gotcha covin locking No, brother, Ladies and folks,
do you just follow.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
An the spirit where it's all the.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Front over real stuff, tell the chill stuff.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
And the m but Swayne, sometimes the best thing you
can do it just stop you feel things. This is
Feeling Things with Amy and Kat.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Happy Thursday, Welcome to Couch Chalks the Q and a
episode of our Feeling Things podcast. I'm Amy and I'm Kat.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
And quick disclaimer before we get into today's question that
although we're answering your questions and I'm a therapist, this
does not substitute for actual therapy. Yeah, but it can
always help and we hope it does.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, make sure to consult like an expert that knows
all the details of your life. Yes, we don't have
all the bits and pieces. Uh. This is from a
listener named s mmmm mysterious. Hey, Amy and Kat would
love to get y'all's thoughts on how to get out
of my rut. I feel like I've checked the boxes, travel, marriage, kids, house,

(01:08):
but now I don't know what's next. I'm okay with
this season of life. Being mundane for me at groceries, diapers, carpool,
playground with the kids. These are not bad things, and
I'm not apathetic or ungrateful. I love my family and friends.
I have a beautiful home with great neighbors. I enjoy
watching my children go into awesome little people. But I
feel stuck, uninspired. I guess I'm having an early midlife crisis.

(01:33):
I'm in my mid thirties. Is this the feeling that
drives people to sign up for a marathon or learn? Pickaball?
Thanks for the thoughts s which before Kat you give
some of your therapy type thoughts. We do have an
update from a listener that wrote in with their feelings
about their life, like the situation they were in. They
had a lot of anxiety about XYZ. And after we

(01:57):
talk about s for a little bit, I have a
fun voicemail update to play like. We love hearing updates
from y'all. So even if it's months later, because this
months have gone by and she called with an update,
so make sure you call and give us an update.
The phone numbers and the show notes. You can send
an email with an update. Doesn't have to be a voicemail,

(02:18):
but all of that infos in the show notes, so
make sure you keep us posted. And so when it
comes to us, this reminds me of the question we
got recently about the like twenty seven phase of life.
She was a twenty seven year old, and this just
goes to show that in your mid thirties, you're gonna
feel like, wait, what is happening now? These are different

(02:41):
scenarios for sure, and I love that she's not feeling
apathetic towards her life, but she is just feeling a
little bit more.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Like what now?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
What now?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Well?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I think that also, along with that other episode we did,
part of this is tied to this idea that throughout
our lives we always have these like big things in
front of us. We graduate, then maybe we go to college,
then we meet somebody, or then we get our dream job,
we buy a house, we have kids, we move like
we have these things that we're constantly looking forward to
that we think are going to I don't complete the circle.

(03:14):
And then we get those things and we might enjoy them,
but then it still feels like there is something that
has not yet been reached. I think part of that
is just from growing up in a culture that's constantly
telling us to reach for something more. We're constantly telling
us that the next thing is going to be the
thing that makes you happy. And also part of that
is in different phases of our life. I think we

(03:36):
need to find new things that bring us joy. And
it sounds like she's in this phase of her life
where she has all these things that she enjoys, but
she wants. I don't want to put words in her mouth,
but there might be something more that you want for yourself.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
And I don't know that it's a marathon, just saying
it could be, though it could be, and for some
people that's great. I just my own personal experience with
a marathon, but.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I think that yeah, for a certain person, a marathon, yes,
for a certain person. Pick a ball, yes, But that's
what I try so many hobbies. I'm constantly trying to
like start something new, or learn something new, or go
somewhere new, because I do think that if we want
spark and joy and fun in our lives, we do
have to constantly create. It doesn't just knock on our

(04:23):
door and we open and it comes in. We create
those moments for ourselves. Your nails look pretty thanks they're red.
I don't really do read very often.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, and I say that because one of your hobbies
is nails.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, and I had. I went and picked up my
niece yesterday and brought her over and did her nails,
and like that's something that I which was really fun.
And that's something I wouldn't have done if I didn't
have this hobby that I started.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Reading and order all the nail stuff on Amazon. Yes,
and they give your own little salon in your kitchen. Yeah,
and yeah, you do do other people's nails, like you're
saying with your niece, but like friends, you've offered to
do mine multiple times.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, you've never said, because I just I.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Realized I'm not a nails person. Although I did have
them done last September, September twenty twenty four, and it's October.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Well we got when did we get pedicures? That was
that was August.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
We got pedicures, so that I got a pure same same,
which is sad because I do enjoy pedicures, manicures not
so much. And at September of last year, for iHeart Festival,
I got these nails with like tips and I did
like a a French with like a chrome talk like

(05:37):
they're very edgy. And I came across a video the
other day of me with those nails, and I was like, whoa,
I have a different energy, Like those are cool and
I feel way more cool in that video than I
do now.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
And so.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I don't want to take the time to get those
nails and I didn't want to upkeep them, but I
feel like I do have a different vibe about me
when I have them, and so maybe I need to
pay more attention to my nails because sort of like
you know, we've talked about with you know, clean hair,
there's just something that you can do that's just like
an instant game changer of like get good gets you

(06:13):
out of your ruts. Like what if I'm missing out
by being, you know, short nail, no paint girl.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
What would your name be if you had long chrom nails.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
All the time, Tina, just.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Like the first thing.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Okay, well, so that also could be something that she does.
It could just literally be I go and like get
fun color. I've talked about those with clients a lot,
where they are always whether it's dressing some way or
getting their hair done some way, or choosing the same
nail color over and over again, just because it's like
what they do when it's the thing. It's the color
they thought their hair was supposed to be. It's the

(07:02):
colors they think they're supposed to have up work because
they're supposed to be professional. Even like the frame of
glasses that you wear, and allowing yourself to go pick
something different brings some different energy into their life. Like
one of my clients getting like purple nails one day
was like the coolest thing ever because you always had
a neutral and that felt more like her. So it

(07:22):
could be something before you got up for a marathon,
maybe change up, wear more color in your wardrobe or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well there's dopamine dressing, which we've talked about before, which
you know, just adding little pops things that you know
help you feel good. And yeah, maybe it is that
you sign up for something like you start running over
your friends, join a book club or listen to some
audio books and then talk to some friends about it.

(07:52):
Because I would imagine at a mom as with all
she is going on in her life, she may not
have a lot of time for sit down reading.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
But well, you just made me think of two things.
One I want to say this too, like all of
this stuff that gets you out of her doesn't have
to be like as big as a marathon or as
big of like you go on a crazy vacation or
you dye your hair blonde or something like that. It
can be little mundane things like you said, the books.

(08:19):
Me listening to audiobooks and going on walks, listening to
audiobooks and me becoming a bookgirl has brought a whole
different like world to me, different kinds of conversations I
can have with friends, just a different way to escape.
So that's one thing.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Why did you get you becoming a book girl?

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Because I've never been a book girl because I don't
I don't read. I don't like curling up with a
book and reading. I get bored. I can't do it.
But if I'm doing something like going on a walk
or cleaning my house and painting doors at my house,
I can listen to that, and then I can be
there's a way to be a book girl for everybody.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, because listening to audiobooks still counts in my own account,
in my book, it counts as a read disability.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
The other thing that you said, you said book club.
I don't think I'm going to join a book club.
But what I have wanted to do Bunco club.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Oh. I played Bunko for Gracie's birthday last month and
it was so fun.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
My parents were in a Bunco club when they're my age,
Like they would go to different people's houses. So I've
never played the game you're saying.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I had it either, and it was really fun. Like
she I was a little lost at first, but then
once you get it down, they're like, Okay, this is fun.
And I was losing, but I still had fun.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, So having little like nights like that. The cinema
Sundays that I started with my friends, how's that going? Well,
we're it paused because the second Sunday we did, did
I tell you what movie it was? I think I did?
It was, Oh, what's the one with the clown Dark Knight?

(09:53):
Two of the people backed out last minute, so we
were like, put it on a pause because maybe it
felt like too much for people. But we're gonna start
it again.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
I mean football started back.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, it's a lot. It was summer like it was
hard to football. Yeah, so but that would is a
really like we just made that up and it is
really fun and a good idea and so steal it
before you again sign up for.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
A marathon and so that in a nutshell in case
someone missed that episode for and you could just do
like one cinema night. It doesn't even have to be
every every day next week.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, but you.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Host and there's a whole theme, but the people coming
don't know what's going to be shown or do you know.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
No, they don't know right there's they don't even know
the theme until they get there. And it's what we've
done is like you, whoever's hosting, is you cook a
meal with a theme of that movie. You don't like
decorate or like dress up or anything. You just cook
a meal or maybe a drink or a dessert or
something like that that has to do with that movie.
And then they guess with the movie is while you're

(10:52):
eating the meal, and then you watch it.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Didn't we make some deal that you're supposed to watch
pretty Woman or something?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, to watch something I forgot.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
I'm happy to honor it. I just don't remember it was.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
We had two weeks. I think I've so one more week.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Milan Long. I still don't want to watch Molan.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Oh, we're going to cancel the deal. No, have you
watched Pretty Warman?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Why wouldn't you want to watch Pretty Woman? It's one
of the best movies ever. You know, I don't like
I was thinking of it's not old. It's from nineteen ninety.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Oh my gosh. I somebody sent me this TikTok or
a reel or something. The other day that was people
were asking, like, what what year? If you're born in,
what year does it consider you old? How do I
say that? Does that make sense? And people were saying,
like nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
They were like, if you don't have a two un
run of your birth year, then you're old.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, we were born in the ninth that's twenty five
years old.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Is not old? Though, if you're born in ninety ninety nine,
if you're like twenty six or that's not old.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
I know.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I just think to them, it sounds old because it's
not two thousands. So it's like, even though it's not
that far apart, for some it just sounds more like
imagine if we were born in the nineteen hundreds and
we were like, whoa, you were born in eighteen ninety yikes,
Like it just sounds that is true.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Like, let's say it was nineteen hundred.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Let's say it was nineteen twenty five, and we were
asked that and we'd be like, oh, my gosh, you
were born in eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
That is crazy that we were born in the nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, we were.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
It sounds like the Gilded Age at this point.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, oh, look at you. You're the one bringing it
up this time. Well, we do have an update from
Mackenzie that I teased about a minute ago, and we
love this kind of update because she wrote in for
couch Talks, we gave some advice. Something that I shared
was actually from my boyfriend's dad, something he had shared

(12:51):
with my boyfriend when his wife at the time was
going through cancer, colon cancer at a beer young age,
like she was diagnosed at forty two, passed away at
forty four, very unexpected. They had three kids. Like, it
just was during the two years that she had the cancer,
there was a lot that he was anxious about and
worried about, and they didn't know what they were facing,

(13:13):
and who knows, maybe she was going to have a
chance to make a recovery. But his dad would just
encourage him, like, you have a lot that you're juggling
right now. Soon she need to be in the present
moment and wait to worry wtw And so that is
where we landed with Mackenzie and sharing some of our
advice with her, and this is her beautiful update.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Hey Kat and Amy, this is Mackenzie. I had called
back like almost seven months ago when I first found
out that I was pregnant, and I wanted to just
give an updates that I am now in my third trimester.
I don't know if y'all remember, but my husband's currently
deployed and I am well into my first couple of

(13:58):
months of PA school and everything is going great. Baby
Cody is due December twenty first, and I just want
to thank you guys for your advice on wait to Worry.
I found it very helpful. And I also wanted to
say that my new feeling and what's kind of getting

(14:20):
me through this last little part of knowing that I'm
going to be doing labor and my husband needs to
come back and everything, but my current mantra is what
if it all works out? And so I just want
to thank you guys for playing a part in my
story being so supportive and I can't wait to continue

(14:43):
to listen to you guys and listen with Cody around
come December. So thank you guys so much, Chat too.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Love it, love getting updates and her sharing that is
reminding other people that you're going to go through different season.
And yeah, she was nervous and anxious about starting peace
school and being pregnant and her husband being deployed, and
now she's living it out and she's like, Oh, it's

(15:12):
all I'm waiting to worry.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
What if it all works out?

Speaker 2 (15:15):
What if it all works out? And now she's passing
that wisdom along to other people. Did you have something
framed with that, No, that's not you what if it
all works out? Maybe I did at your office, or
what if it goes well or something like that. You're
not saying, like, you know, there's some signs that say

(15:37):
it always works out for me or whatever. And it
was like yours was more of a question of like
what if things go well? I feel like it was
a really like a flower picture and then there.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Was letters over it that was it said it's gonna
be okay.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Well, what if it's going to be okay?

Speaker 3 (15:56):
But we have a lot of like so we might
have something similar somewhere else. I just can't think of
it right now.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Well that works too, Yeah, it's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Okay, maybe question mark what if it's gonna be okay?
And wy not, but wait to worry about that.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, cross that bridge when you get there, you know,
just start building the bridge now, a little bit, brick
by brick, step by step, step by step, day bye,
one day at a time.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
There's probably something that says that in my office somewhere.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
One day at a time.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I have to remind myself of that often, one day
at a time. Okay, thank you s for the email,
Thank you Mackenzie for the update. Thank you everybody else listening.
We'd love to hear from you. Hey there at Feeling
Things podcast dot com. You can also call eight seven
seven two oh seven two oh seven seven. Yeah okay,

(16:50):
all right, yeah, and they are weird, but we're thankful
for y'all.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
We hope you have the day you need to bye
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