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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, little food for you. So life. Oh it's pretty Bay,
it's pretty beautiful than laughs A little mouth kicking with
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four Okay, Happy Thursday, everybody. I've got two guests with
me here for the intro. I have my husband been
and Mary is on. So Mary and I were going
to do it just us too, and then we decided
to bring Bin in because we did a live on
Instagram probably two weeks ago at this point. By the
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time you all are listening to this, and Mary was
getting messages that it was our best live we've ever
done because we had been on kinds of messages. Then
You're very very popular, and people appreciated your humor. They
thought you were hilarious. Have been hiding, I guess No,
I think I'm funny too. Amy doesn't think I'm funny. No,
I have not been hiding that you're hilarious. I think
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they liked that you were putting me on Front Street
for some stuff like how the time that you bought
me a watch and I didn't. I didn't you know,
like it and I didn't know how to handle it.
And then when you were in Afghanistan you bought me
that bracelet and I didn't like that. So now you
just don't buy me jewelry. And it's a sensitive thing
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because it's not that I didn't appreciate the gift. But anyway,
that's all beside the point. It was just a fun live,
and I will admit I was entertained by Ben as well.
But Mary and I were just laughing at the fact
that we have been doing lives on Instagram, either on
a squaw or the shop forward for a very long
time a couple of years, and we finally had our
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best live yet. And I would say before Ben I
was probably our best live was almost two years ago
when I was at my dad's and he was recovering
from his cancer surgery, and he came up with fun facts.
Oh yeah, that was so good. And he would sit
there with us and give us fun facts about his life,
which was hilarious. Maybe I'll I can get him back
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on for that. He just can't leave his assistant living place,
but maybe I could get him on the phone. He's
just really hard to understand because of his throat, But
if you were to be able to come to the
house and record in person, I think you could understand
maybe what he was saying. I guess you and dad
popular hot hot commodity. We're just different. Everybody used to
talk to you guys and following you guys. So we're
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just different. Well, and he gives a different perspective on
you too, then people are used to hearing. Probably, Okay,
what perspective would you like to share with people today?
It's safe? It's not safe. This is totally saying we're
six weeks end of living together or like staying in
the same house. Like we've been married for fourteen years.
We're lockdown for like six weeks, so like, there's nothing
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safe right now, say something. I'm giving you the permission
to say anything and everything about our lockdown experience. It's
been wonderful. Okay, it's been great. Well, Marry and I
have exciting news. Well we re stopped tied eye cool
mom t shirts and well all cool mom stuff. But
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speaking of people giving their opinions on things cool ants,
we have a tied eye pull over. But a lot
of people are like, WHOA. Once they saw the cool
mom tied eye T shirt, They're like, we need that
for cool ants. So they asked and now they're receiving.
I don't want to make it seem like asking you
shall receive because people we do value feedback. It just
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shows like that was definitely from you guys, from everybody
asking no. I mean, but to elaborate that on that part, Ben,
it's just that we can't make like people ask for
different things all the time, and we can't always do
it because we're not. I mean, Mary's literally making it
all happen. Like if you're wondering the team that's putting
stuff together, it's Mary. She has a Yeah, I know
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that there's that part two. Yeah, and then the shipping
out in customer service. But I mean, if you're contacting
the design people and the manufacturer and getting the T
shirt and marries at home tie dyeing them herself. I'm
going to do this weekend for tie dying the weekend
for Airthday. Excited. Yeah, yeah, socially distancing obviously, socially distancing
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tie dying responsibly. Yeah. Mary and I were just talking
about our love for green tea and what is that
peach stuff that you sent me? Tell people what it
is in case they want to order something, because it's
the best, so good. But I would write it's better
to find the stores. A lot like when you order
it online they charge I don't know, try to find
it in your stores. It's the Republic of Tea and
it's unsweetened passion for a green tea and it's been
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bottles and it's so good, so good, that's what we
have in our been. Have you tried it? It's so good. Yeah,
I'll make you. I'll make you a cup. When we
get to add like a drop of stevia, and it's
like you're on a tropical vacation. Oh, I feel like
it doesn't even need the drop of stevia. It doesn't
really just kind of pushes it over. Yeah, I don't know,
pour it over some ice and yeah, and it'll take
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you away out of your house and onto the beach
in your mind. What else are we talking about before
we came on? Oh, a cauliflower recipe that Mary made
the other night, which I want to make. But it's
from like, if you all want to look it up,
it looks so good, and it's from a cookbook she
has called Nothing Fancy by Alison Roman. And is the
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cauliflower called something particular? Now if I don't remember what,
but just if you google it, that recipe I googled
it and it actually it's one of our only recipes
is online on the New York Times, like recipe section.
I don't know see if you google it, it'll come up.
Alice and Roman call Flower. Yeah, And I have Jamie
Ivy on this episode, and she's going to share a
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favorite recipe of hers, like something super easy that she
makes it home because you know, did you know she
does not like to cook at all. She's like a
gourmet chef and she doesn't like to cook at all.
So she's she's going to share coming up like a
really easy like you just throw it in the oven,
and she says it's so simple, but when she makes it,
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her kids think she's the best best cook in the world. Well,
you'll have to listen to the rest of the episode
and you'll get it because Jamie's on. We're talking about,
like the first thing we get into is how your
story matters, and she has a Bible study that goes
along with that that's on her website. So we talked
through how sharing your story not just openly and not
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you know, to the public or on Instagram or Facebook,
but sometimes what that means and getting vulnerable is talking
to your best friend about it or what you're going through,
or your husband or your sister, another core group of friends.
Make sure that you're communicating about your life and what's
going on, and that it really matters, because it can
open up give them an opportunity to speak into your life,
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but also give them an opportunity to be like, oh wow,
I feel that way too, and here's what I'm going through. Mary.
You don't know this, but our journalist come up and
she talks about she how she does not like to
journal at all, but that she does it she feels better.
And I said, oh, yeah, Mary and I we came
up with the Gratitude Journal simply because we don't like
journaling at all. Ben, do you like journaling? I never
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really have, no, So I don't know if I like
it or not. I mean I don't mind it. I
think it's good. Have you ever just sat down and
written down your thoughts ever? Well, you've written in the
Gratitude Journal that we want. Yeah, but other than that,
like I've never done it, like on my own therapy
school project. Maybe know. Oh so, speaking of Ben's college,
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he went to the Air Force Academy and they have
this magazine that is really awesome. It's called Checkpoints and
it comes in the mail. How many times I think
we get twice a year. Twice a year. He reads
it cover to cover. He loves it. We've gotten our
entire marriage so years being get in these magazine and
we just got one in the mail and he opened
it up and retired colonel that's in there writing some article.
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Wrote it all about the Bobby Bones Show and tell
Me something Good. She's chairman of the board for the magazine. Yeah,
so it's an Air Force Academy alumni magazine. And the
chairman of the board who's retired colonel like class of
nine two from the Academy. Like in the first paragraph
she's talking about Bobby Amy and lunchbox and tell me
something Good and how she listens every morning in d
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C and her commute. And I think it was a
it was a bittersweet because you were very proud of us.
But then at the same time I think you were like,
wait a second, I was Therefore in this magazine. I
just thought you finally made it because you made it
into Checkpoints. So if you're making it a Checkpoints and
you've actually made it into some Dane I mean, I
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never thought i'd be in that magazine? Were you kind
of were? I guess through? Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm
a grad. All the grads are in it. Okay, that
I don't know why I thought of that, I think
because I really don't know why I even thought of that. Oh.
I didn't even get to the third thing that Jamie
and I talked about because I got stuck on the
gratitude thing. But the second thing we get into is gratitude,
and then the third thing we do tattoo talk, because
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she has a big tattoo on her left farm or right,
but then she got one on the other four arm,
like another big one that she hasn't really talked about
yet because it's not done. But I was talking to
her about if I'm cool enough to pull off certain things,
and that if you've ever thought about getting a tattoo,
what why are you shaking your head? Bin? Well, I'm Mary.
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Have you ever got a tattoo? Like at all? No?
I kind of want one, but I haven't. It's not
like exactly what I would want, so I just haven't
got it yet, like a like she's on her way
into like a sleeve. But I don't have anything tattoo, right,
you just have like two dainty words on your risk. Yeah.
So for the next thing will be a full arm
and it'll be the shoulder. I want like a big
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like a pretty bird and a flower, which is basically
what Jamie Ivy has. Pretty, very pretty. Yeah, that's what
I want. So after Jamie and I talked about tattoos,
then I've got our Healthcare Hero shout out, which I'm
doing every Thursday. It's going to be one of my
four things for pretty much as long as we're going
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through coronavirus, which is not really slowing down at the moment,
but I mean, I guess depending on where you live,
but nurses and doctors and healthcare workers all around are
still working like crazy, so I want to make sure
that we are honoring them and lifting them up. And
speaking of that, Mary and I have a Healthcare Hero
sponsorship that's up, so you can go to that and
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actually sponsor a t shirt or a tote that says
scrubs on caffeine, eate wash hands repeat. It's super cute.
A lot of healthcare heroes are wearing them and loving them,
and they're so cute with their scrubs outfit and they
were to work and it's been super cool to see
nurses wearing them and wearing them proudly. But we're trying
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to do giveaways every once in a while through different
people on Instagram, and we're able to just contact people
and say, hey, do you want to do a giveaway
because you'll have sponsored stuff, and then we're able to
bless different heroes. We're reaching out to different influencers across
the country or people to put up a giveaway. That way,
we reach different audiences and we watch sure to spread
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out the love, which is cool because it totally started
organically by you doing a giveaway and then so many
people reached out. You were giving away ten I think,
and so many people were like, can you up in
to seventeen? I'll paper seven? Can you? And someone else
was like, add too, I want to paper two. We're like,
which is just like crazy and so generous. So that's
that's why we started this official donation. Yeah, and every
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time we give one away, we update a sheet on
the website too that shows the name of the healthcare hero,
what they do, this city they live in, and so
y'all can see how we're distributing them. We're super thankful
and yeah, like Mary said, it's very generous and we're
able to do it. So we just want to remind
you all that that's available because maybe some of you
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don't know, and you don't even have to sponsor a
full t shirt or a full tote price wise, there's
a donation amount. You can do a drop down. It
could be five dollars, ten dollars whatever, it'll go towards.
Eventually it could equal up to getting a shirt or
four shirts available and then we can contact someone else
and then boom, do another giveaway. So I want to
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hear if you have a health care hero you want
to nominate, you can send me an email at four
Things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com. And each
hero that I shout out, I get their address and
we mail them if they want a tote or a
tea as well. So there's giveaways on the podcast and
then the giveaways that we're doing online. So um, which,
speaking of health care heroes, International Nurse's Day was on Tuesday,
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So last week we had National Nurse's Day and then
this week was International So just a reminder to Mary
and I were talking about, like wait, we're international because
we shipped to Canada, UK, Australia. So if you happen
to be listening in one of those places and you're like,
oh I am in healthcare or my sister or my
best friends in healthcare, well we can ship them something too.
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You got anything, Ben, Nope, nope, oh man of many words.
Some people might be like, wait, he was your best
live just kidding, I know, Hey, go after. It's fine.
You don't have to be upset just because I got
a huge accolade from my one show and then I
say one word and you're like, oh, this is what
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it takes. He really did. I screen taught some of them,
but I got lost some months of messages. I think
people like your stories and your fresh perspective on different
things before we go. You don't want to leave us
with a fresh perspective or a quick story. Nothing right now?
Okay we're late? Oh yeah, okay, we're late behind time
to getting nervous in the You don't, Ben, We're not
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going to be late. I promise you. I promise are early.
I don't think we're gonna be early, but we're not
going to be late. That's you're not five minutes early,
you're late, honey, that's not it literally is true. It's
literally not true because like Mary, do you live by that.
If you're not five minutes early, you're late. I mean
I planned to go early, but mainly like traffic in
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l A, like I feel like you're either sitting somewhere
for a long time waiting in your car, or you're late.
So it's like I try to get where I'm early
just because of that. But I'm not like super early
all the time neither. I could get better at that.
It's just a sign of respect. It is a sign
of respect. But I still think I could I agree
to like the nicest, the most easiest and subtle way
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to show respect to somebody, just to be early, Like
you don't have to do another thing, just be early.
That is wise advice, but I don't like consider it, like, yeah,
you're thinking about the other person, and I then oh,
I'm so sorry. No, it's okay, man, you were you
showed whole bunch of respect for that person. Agree with that.
I think you're not going to do it. No, I
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guess I was just saying I don't have to get
there five minutes early to show respect. I can be
there a minute early. But if you plan on five
minutes and then a couple of things happen on your
way out of the door, because nothing ever happens to you.
You don't ever forget your keys somewhere or your somewhere
or your purse or maybe yout to the car and
you're like, oh my goodness, I'm in my car and
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I don't even have my keys. Or if you aren't earlier,
then you can be like, oh, I can swing by
Starbucks and get a green tea because you get like,
all right, we're gonna go ahead and start today's episode,
thanks Mary. Oh but you all can go to for anything.
We talked about the cool mom Coolian because they're different.
They all live at the shop forward, but sometimes at
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four Things, sometimes a splaw and then Mary has cute stuff.
So you can get to pimp and joy and all that.
Just go to Radio Amy dot com and click on
actually for this week, you'll I'll go ahead and put
up an image that says health care your hero sponsorships.
You can click on that and it'll take you there. Bam. Okay, So,
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as you know from my intro, I've got Jamie Ivy
on which I'm super excited about. And Jamie, before we
get into something that I'm excited for you to share,
which is how our stories matter, I want to do
a quick eyes breaker with you and ask you four questions.
I'm ready. Okay, So your go to a movie that
makes you laugh? Okay, I have to Amy, Are you ready?
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Like I can laugh just thinking about it? Have you
seen Central Intelligence? Oh? Yeah, that's a good one. I
love that. Sandra Bulleck? No, no, no, Central Intelligence is
Kevin Hart and The Rock. Oh yeah, Why was I
thinking Sandra Bullock? And um but I wasn't thinking Miss
Congeniality because I know that's the police officer one. Oh
but no. We watched Central Intelligence over Christmas break with
my family and I died laughing. I watched it for
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the first time on an airplane, which is where I
see a lot of movies, and I was crying. I
was laughing so hard. Love it, Love it? Okay. I
have one more though? Have you seen Game Night? I haven't.
What is that one? Okay, you guys have to watch
it tonight. Jason Bateman and Rachel McAdams are in it. Also,
Landry from Friday Nightlights is in it. Oh, okay his
real name in real life, but you know what I mean.
But he's also the druggie from Breaking Bad or oh
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I never did I never saw that, but okay. So
but Game Night can also make me just like cry
like crazy. Okay, So it's got multiple emotions, because sometimes
we do need a movie that gives us all the
emotions so we can get out all the fields. Oh
all of the fields yet. Okay, so Game Night, I'm
gonna have to put that one down. Is that that good?
Did you say it's good for the family or just you?
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And no, not good for the family, just you and
your man. Okay, Game Night? Writing that one down? Okay.
The second thing I want is a recipe recommendation. Okay,
when you tell me, you're gonna ask me if I
was like, oh, I am so not good at this,
but I will tell you this, Amy, I don't cook,
like I hate cooking is stresses me out. But my
friend Amanda one time told me this what she makes.
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And I make this all the time for my children
and they think that I like have a cooking show.
When I make this, I literally just cut up potatoes
and put them in a like a baking like a
cake pan with some green beans, and then the like
pre made sausages that you buy, like not pre make,
you know what I mean, Like just a thing of sausage,
cut it up, put butter on it, tevert and cool
and cook it. And I literally my kids think that
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I am the best thing that's ever happened to them. Okay,
I mean that's a quick and eat. Everybody wants something
quick and awesome and the kid approved. So yeah, I
call it my like sausage potato green bean magic perfect. Okay,
I wanted to try that one out. Your favorite self
care activity hands down, walking in my neighborhood with my dogs. Oh,
that is a good one. That's how my husband and
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I love to end a day after dinner. Sometimes the
kids join us, sometimes not, but we just grab the
dog and we go for a walk. And it's the best.
It's the best. It feels like everything you just kind
of come down a little bit. It's so good. And
then fourth thing, what book are you reading? I'm actually
reading right now on two books. The first I'm reading
The Great Alone by Christian Hannah maybe something like that.
A lot of recommendation from and then a Gentle Answer
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by Scott Bald and he's actually a Nashville guy if
you know him. Oh no, I don't, But I love
that you came with two movies and two books. I
am nothing but prepared for you today, Amy. Yeah, no,
I love that because people are looking for stuff to read,
they're looking for stuff to watch, Like everybody's kind of
gone through all the things on Netflix and trying to
figure out how to entertain themselves. And I need you
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and your husband towards game night and report back to
me immediately. Oh for sure, I will. I've got it down,
so I will do that. Okay, So let's get into
I think you're working on this in a Bible study.
I'm excited to hear about it. I know that you're
big on everybody's stories, and we all have one and
each story matters. So I thought you could elaborate on
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that just for us and see where we can go
to learn more about it. When I think of people
who are doing this, well, like, I think of you,
And I'm not just saying that because you're hosting this show,
but I really do like and I think of a
lot of women who are using things that they've been
through to help out other people, and I think that
that doesn't have to equal like you know, the death
of a parent or a divorce or a diagnosis, but
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it can just be like every day struggles. I think
that every day that we're alive makes up this grand
story of our lives. And I know that personally, for me,
when I've been the most encouraged when I've had a
conversation with the woman is when she's kind of gave
me that glimpse into her struggle, you know what I mean,
Like they kind of just kind of let you know, like, oh,
I don't have it all put together. And for me
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that's encouraging because I don't enjoy being around people that
I think have it all put together. And so I
wrote this Bible study, and my hope and prayer for
it is that you know anyone that did it, but
you know, women particularly would see the fact that God
has been writing their story and weaving it together, and
that their story. When we share our stories, we actually
get to bring hope to people in a way that
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would be different if we didn't open up with our stories.
And I know that you've experienced that through just things
that you've been open to with even being on the
show and you've got you've had chances to say, hey,
here's what's going on, and what you hear all the time,
I would guarantee you haven't said this to me, but
I would guess if you get messages all the time
to say thank you for saying that, like I feel
the same way or I'm going to do the same
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thing and you're giving me hope, Like you get that,
don't you? I feel well. That's one of the main
reasons why I did this podcast and then even had
a recent series inside this podcast called Outweigh about disordered
eating and my main reason for doing it and putting
in the work that I did for it and reaching
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out to others to share and experts and professionally everything
that went into it was for people to not feel alone.
That's it, and that's a part of my story that
I you mentioned. I've shared different things on the Bobby
Bones Show before and walked through cancer with my mom
and adoption things. You've been through similar things where you're
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sharing stuff that's hard, but not for any sort of
oh wow, look how strong she is, or any praise
or two people be like, oh wow, look at her
sharing her story, but it's not always the easy thing
to do. But when you have any opportunity to comfort
somebody and let them know that they're not alone in
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their struggles, like, then it helps give meaning to what
you're going through. It's true. And I mean, I think
this is confusing to some people because they might see
both of us, and we both have these public platforms,
so we do a lot where a lot of people see, right,
and so they'd be like, oh, well, you want me
to like stand up and shout about all the hard
thing of I'm going through. And my thing is I
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just want women to have people in their lives that
they're honest with. And so that's what I think. It
has been so hard. And you know, my husband's a pastor,
and so I see a lot of times within church
circles women feeling scared to admit that they're struggling with something.
And that's sad to me because I think that we
should have friends that we can look at and say, Hey,
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I'm struggling being a mom today, or I'm struggling being
a wife, or I'm struggling liking my boss, or I'm
struggling liking myself or whatever it is, Like I want
to be in relationships where I can say those things
and someone is kind to me about it and someone
doesn't think I've lost my mind or I'm the worst
person in the world. And so what I've seen is
that when we are willing to share our stories, which
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means less like what are we walking through today, that
not only do we get to show people hope, but
we also allow people to speak into our life as well.
And so I love that that you have the platform
where you share parts about your life, and I do
as well. But I would guess that you've probably have
a lot of things that never get said to the
public eye the same way I do. But you have
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people in your life that you can talk to those
things about. And that's what I want for women, right.
I think that's an important thing to note is just
because it's about sharing something you've been through and people
not feeling alone, it doesn't mean you have that that's
you putting it on Instagram, whether you have a platform
or following or not, doesn't mean you take it to
Facebook or it doesn't mean like getting vulnerable doesn't mean
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sharing with anyone and everyone. It could be with your sister,
it could be with your best friend, it could be
with your husband, it could be with people in your circle.
So yeah, I think that that's that's important too, because
while my brain always goes to, Okay, what am I
able to share? But for me, the outweigh stuff I
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didn't really talk about publicly for a long time. I mean,
there was mentions here and there, but not digging into
my story the way that I did, and it took me. Well,
I've been on the Bobby Bones Show for fourteen years.
It took me fourteen years to tell parts of my
story that are from my teenage years. So when it's time,
certain stuff will come out. But just because I wasn't
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sharing it publicly through my platform, I was able to
talk to my sister about it, and a couple of
friends and my husband, And you're right, it allowed the
opportunity for them to speak into me. And it allowed
the opportunity even for one of my best friends from
high school, like a very recent conversation of us opening
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up to each other about stuff. I had no idea
she was struggling with the exact same things because we
weren't talking about it. Yeah, and just imagine, how did
you guys talked about I mean, you can't go back
and change the past by any means, and there's no
reason to dwell on what could have been. But like
going forward now, do you feel as though your relationship
is that much stronger because there's been this vulnerability and
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this trust to kind of hold each other's stories tenderly. Yes, yeah,
that's beautiful. Yeah, So where is this Bible study? Where
does it lift? Yeah? If you go to Jamie Ivy
dot com, which is my web page, and then go
to jam aby dot com plush your Story Matters and
it's a six week study. It's all online, which is
really cool, especially since now we can't actually meet together.
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But there's teaching videos by myself and then I interview
someone on every show, which is one of my favorite
things to do, and then there's discussion questions for the week.
So you can do it by yourself, you can grab
a couple of girlfriends and do it together. I think
it's beautiful when people are doing it, you know, together
with each other. And the great thing about it being
digital is you can do whenever you want, however you want.
So no, we're all about that. Yeah, we're all trying
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to just figure out how we can get things done
when we need to get the done in whatever day
of the week, it is because nobody knows. Because nobody knows.
That's exactly right. Okay, well, thank you for sharing with
us about that. And next thing I want to go
over with you is gratitude and what you did for
your forty second birthday. And along with that, too, May
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is Mental Health Awareness Month, so we'll kind of touch
on all of that and the next thing. Okay, So Jamie,
happy belated birthday, by the way, Thank you so much. Yeah.
I can't believe your forty two. And I only say
that because when you don't look forty two, but not
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that it matters what age anybody looks. I just can't
believe this is where we are in life now. I
probably met you when I was in my twenties. It's
so crazy, I know. And now I mean I'm thirty
nine going creeping up onto forty. And so something that
I saw you did for your forty sewcond birthday is
you thought of forty two things that you were grateful for.
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I mean, we're big on gratitude here in the podcast.
In a minute, I'm gonna have you share four things
with me, not forty two. But what made you think
of doing that? Well, I mean I actually thought about
you guys, because I know you have your gratitude journals,
which are so awesome, and I actually go journal, which
is I always say I want to, and then when
I do something like this, I'm like, man, that was
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really awesome to sit down and think about forty two
things that I'm currently really thankful for. And I did
have the thought amy, I was like, I should do
this lasted, so who knows, maybe I'll actually sit down
and do this every day. I love being forty it's
really really great. Did you say you're almost there? Yeah?
Thirty nine girl, it's so fun. Forties. I feel like
I'm like, got my roof. I love this, But it
just made me think, like, what do I love so
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much of what gives me joy? Right now? And you know,
we're recording in the middle of quarantine and COVID nineteen coronavirus,
and I think that there's some days that I can
find myself thinking and believing the lie that I don't
have anything to be grateful for. And so, I mean,
you already know this, but just writing all these things
down made me go, wow, Like I can't go for
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a minute without thinking of something that I'm grateful for.
So it was a good little therapy for me. Yeah, well,
when you say you don't journal, and Mary and I
don't either, I mean we do now that we have
a journal, but we created it for us and people
like us that journalings and intimidating or for whatever reason,
we just can't sit down and write our thoughts for
the day. So we thought if we broke it down
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into four simple things, you could even use stickers if
you want to, or one word, or you could write
a paragraph. It's up to you. But and we didn't
even put dates in the journal because we didn't want
people to feel pressure to have to do it every day.
You just kind of take get up when when you
need it. And you know, I saw too that did
you revisit some episodes from your podcasts that are on
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mental health awareness or did do you have new interviews?
Is there did? So? One thing we've done is the
show A lot is wanted to talk about mental health awareness,
and honestly, Amy, I don't know about you, but I
have had like situational anxiety and depression in my lifetime,
but I don't have anyone in my immediate family that
is struggled with you know, depression or anxiety, and so
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doing the podcast, I bet you could say this as well.
Doing the podcast has helped me understand and learn so
many things in life. And one of the things that's
really helped me with its understanding mental illness and mental health.
And so we just went back and looked at these
shows that we had released last year and who did
we have on who had talked about mental health? An
easy place to find all six of those shows if
you were looking for some shows that our guests talk
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about that. And so we just put that up on
our web page just recently. And it's good because it
is mental health awareness mone and I wanted to make
a place to do a good to find the show
easily that where we've had guests who have been so
kind to share their stories like we talked about and
them sharing their stories is going to help people. So yeah,
we just made that put that little list together recently. Yeah, well,
y'all should check that out. It's Jamie Ivy dot com
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and her podcast is The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivy.
And you know, I brought that up because expressing what
you're thankful for and practicing gratitude is so great for
our mental well being. And that's one thing that Mary
and I learned we were putting the journal together as
we were like, this is important, and we didn't even
know when we planned a gratitude challenge for the month
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of March that there was gonna be a pandemic. So
it kind of fell at a time where you know,
it was good for people to go through and do it,
and I was all in, it was good for me too.
But then I realized after their thirty days, I was like, Okay,
kind of need a break, but it did help me realize.
When I took a break and then I went back
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to it, I was like, oh, I do feel better.
And whatever that looks like for you, whether it's pausing
in the day to jot down quickly some things that
you're thankful for, or taking a minute to get outside
and get some sunlight and some fresh air, or stopping
to do some breathing exercises, there's little tools. But obviously
when it's something clinically diagnosed, you know, professional help needs
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to be sought. I'm not trying to give any remedy
for something that's super serious, but I think we can
oftentimes have something circumstantial. Like you said, there can be
circumstantial anxiety or depression, and then you know there's there's
different things like gratitude that may help you with that.
And so um, I thought it was cool that for
your birthday you sat down and thought forty two things.
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So right now, I'd love for you to share with
us four things that you're thankful for right now. So
basically I take all my forty two things, I could
get the journal out until in the whole thing and
be like good to go, like yeah, four things, really good. Okay.
So out of those forty two things I came up with,
I thought about a couple that I'm super thing afore
is one of them is my guard I like end
this person who dreams of having this genormous garden that
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I get to walk in and sit and then pick
all the fresh veggies, and the reality of that is
just that's a lot of work. But I do have
this small little garden, and amy I am like a
weird woman. I just go sit out there next to
the plant every day and just watch them and like
give me some tomatoes. I like cheer them on So
I'm so thankful for the garden because it's it helps
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me if I'm feeling nervous or anxious to go sit
about there. So I'm thankful for my garden. Okay, this
is the one that I'm thankful for too. This sounds
kind of like weird to be thankful for, but I
just found a new clothing company that I wasn't aware of,
and it's okay to be thankful for that, right. I
feel like I'm the last person in the world who
didn't know about Carly Jean Los Angeles. I don't know
what that is. Oh yeah, I'm going to introduce you. Okay,
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it's this closing company in l A. I wonder if
Mary knows about them. But Carly Jean, I think that's
the girl's name that started it. And um, a friend
of mine told me about her and I was like,
you should have it on the show. She's amazing. So
I looked at her clothing company and I've already ordered
like five things Darren Quarantine, which is a problem where
do I don't have anywhere to wear them? But anyhow,
I'm so thankful for finding out the new clothing line. Okay,
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another thing I'm thankful for is friends with pool. Yeah,
the other day when my girlfriend was like, hey, we're
not going to be here, just come over and from
in our pool, I'm like, I love you. I'm so
thankful for that. Do you all have a pool? We don't,
but uh so someone Jamie just our house is not
on the market and they just came to us this
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week with an offer, like a cash offer for our
house above market price, and are you gonna take it?
We took it. We took it. This week, we signed
the favorite work and we took it. So I have like,
literally this week, we've sold our house. I mean they
still have to go through an inspection, but I mean
I think our house is pretty good to go. So
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we've signed everything and we'll see what happens. But the
closing day will be May. And then they said they
would rent it back to us by the day until
we find somewhere to go because we don't have anywhere
to go. But that's one thing my kids are saying
is can we find a house with the pool? Can
we find a house with the pool? And the house
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I grew up and had one, and my dad moved
out when I was nine, so then it was me,
my mom, and my sister, and it was a lot
of upkeep. And then my life changed after my dad
moved out. My mom went to work full time, and
so I feel like it was a lot of responsibility,
and my sister and I had a big part in
that because my mom couldn't do it all. And I
just keep reminding my kids, like, you know, this is
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a lot of responsibility. And I can just hear my
mom back. But it's not like we ever begged for
a pool. We had it as a family when we
were when I was little, and then it suddenly just
became this huge burden when our life changed a little bit.
But so I think I'm you're having a little ps. Yes, yeah,
I mean I don't want to. I don't know that
I'd go that far, but I have some like a
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fear of having a pool because I just hear feel
this right of responsibility into this. Yeah, but I need
to let that go because I think it be fun
and who knows. I mean, we just got an offer
for a house that's more than we thought we'd ever get.
We weren't even listing it. So maybe we take that
and we find a house of the pool. I don't know,
so go on, I'm with you with that. Pools are awesome, Okay,
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So I'm thankful for that. So my guarden Carle Jine
Los Angeles friends with the pool. And then I mean,
in this kind of quarantine, I think I'm even more
thankful for social media. It can be really difficult sometimes,
and I think we have to figure out how to
handle it best based on where you are emotionally and
all those things. I think everyone has to figure out
what social media looks like for them. But I have
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really found it to be helpful to keeping up with
friends that I can't see right now, you know. And
so social media can get a bad rap sometime by
a lot of people, but I'm grateful for it because
technology it has been a really good healthy days. I
agree it can be a dark place, but it can
also be an amazing place for connection and meeting people
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and cultivating relationships and nurturing them. But it has to
be done in a healthy So I'm I'm down with
all four of those things so quickly. In the next thing,
I really just have to get your opinion on something, Jamie.
It's something that you have and I want to do
a quick little thing about it, and it might be
something that other people are thinking about doing too, and
I just maybe give us some advice. Okay, that'll be next. Okay,
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So Jamie, real talk you came up on the Bobby
Bones show the other day because we were talking about
I can't remember what Bobby and I were talking about,
maybe like rock and roll lifestyle or things that we
found to be edgy and what is rock and roll
lifestyle even mean? And like tattoos came up and I
have two small little tattoos on my wrist, Like one
is my mom's handwriting with the word joy to go
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along with like pimp and joy. And then I have Spoa,
which is hope in Haitian creole, which as you know
since you've adopted from Haiti. But I got that when
I was waiting for my kids and then my mom
when she was going through cancer. So they're special to me,
like they have meaning. There's part this anyway, back to
the show. We're talking about how I've always kind of
wanted like an arm tattoo, like a big one in
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my arm, not a sleeve per se. But you know,
and you have the most beautiful foe arm tattoo and
I just think that you're cool enough to pull it
off and it looks good on you, and I don't know.
My question is can I pull it off? Then? Also,
when did you decide at what age to decide you
were going to do that? And then how nervous were you?
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Did you once think maybe you weren't cool enough? And
then like did you build upon it and start small
or did you just go with the beautiful flower situation?
I love this conversation. So I always say I think
people should get tattoos when they're thirty and above, and
my husband laughed at me, but I'm like, I feel
like when you're in your twenties, you're gonna make a
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rash decision and next thing you know, you end up
with tattoos you don't like. So when I got I
have this bird and it has she's sitting on a
limb and there's a nest with four eggs in there,
and it scut flowers around it, and I just I too,
thank you for saying that. I think it's beautiful as well.
I got it when our thirty and it represents my
four kids, and I never imagine myself as being someone
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with a ginormous tattoo on my arm at all and
here I am and then I don't hope you know this, Amy,
But last fall I got another Ginorma's tattoo on the
other side. So basically from my elbow to my wrist
is go long tattoo. I didn't know that yet. I
haven't really talked about it much because it's not done,
and so it feels it's like showing a painting on
Instagram that you haven't finished, like that feels weird. But
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I wanted a candle to represent light. Um. You know,
as a Christian, I know that Jesus says that he's
like of the world, and he says that as his followers,
we are light in a dark world. And sometimes the
world is looks so dark to us, to everybody, no
matter what face background you come from. And so I
just wanted something that represents light. And so I had
this beautiful candle that's not yet done. But it's funny
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because even up until that moment, Amy that I got
this last tattoo, I didn't really imagine myself with a
half asleep tattoo, like and it just just feels so weird.
But she just started showing me what she could do,
and I was like, this is beautiful. And next thing
you know, I pap a sleeve and I love it
and I forget that I have it until someone asked.
But I often wonder, like alight, my husband Aaron has
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both of his arms fully tattooed from the elbow to
the wrist like me, and I'm like, are we like weird? Parents?
Are cool? Parents? But I just forget it. But can
you do it? Is that's a question. I think you
could do anything you want. I mean I always say
a tattoo like, just think about it for a long
time because it never goes away obvious point like the
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but it's just a reality. But really I don't think
about my tattoos hardly ever, and so it's not like
I every day I go like, oh man, I have tattoos.
It's just feel normal now. So what what would your
advice be for somebody that's considering getting their very first one. Okay,
here's my advice. Number one, think about it for a
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long long time. Number two, never walk into a tattoo
parlor not knowing what you want. Disaster like, don't do that.
And number three this is done, but you know before
you get a tachoo. They actually draw, they do the outline,
they draw it on you like this feels like we're
little kids in high school drawing on ourselves. But what
do you think just drew it on your arm with
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a sharp beat and then really grat to do? Like
do I like having you know, this color or this
black and wide or this design on my body all
the time? Yeah? No, I don't think that's dumb. I
think that's smart. Live with it for a little bit,
for a little bit while you can, you know, take
a shower at a race it. Yeah, and it's what
are you gonna get permanently on there? I don't know.
I basically love your You're exactly like bird flower situation,
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So I don't know, Maybe I just take a picture
of that. Yeah, yeah, this is what I want, except
for I only have two kids, so what that means?
I have two eggs? Two eggs yep, okay, ye see,
And that's precious and it has meaning and I I
think it could look super cool. And I love that, Aaron,
your husband has full sleeves. I would love for my
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husband to have sleeves and he knows that, but he won't.
He doesn't have any tattoos, and he was in the
militarys he has nothing. He jokes with me that he
wants he's going to get like a pterodactyl wing under
his bicep, like in between his bicep and his tri sep,
you know, so when he lifts up his arms, it's like,
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and I don't know what, I don't know why, but
he's been saying that for years, and I'm scared that
one day he's just gonna come home with it. But
I hope he's joking because I would rather have cool
sleeve situation. But okay, well, thank you for giving me
the encourage my need. If I ever go through with it,
I don't know for sure if I will, but it's
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something that I definitely love about you. And I mean
I love way more things about you. Don't worry about that,
but you're arm tattoo and now tattoos. I guess I
should say it hurts so bad, Amy that did Oh
it hurts so bad. Okay, Well, see mine we're just
so tiny. I don't think I had time for them
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to hurt you know. You know, I put like nine
hours in on this. Oh my gosh. I recently got
my ears double pierced and then my cartilage like up
top pierced. So feeling I did that at thirty nine.
Feeling pretty cool about that. Hey, you're on it, You're
on the right path. I know I'm getting there. Well,
I'll keep you posted on the tattoo and Jamie, thank
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you for coming on to talk about your story, matters
and gratitude of mental health. And then a little little
tattoo talk to round things off. Welcome. Yeah, I appreciate
it so much. Okay, healthcare hero shout out time. The
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shout out comes from Chrissie Hey. Amy loved the podcast
and all things Bobby Bones Show. I would like to
nominate a frontline hero, Hayley Strangle. She's a respiratory therapist
at the Ohio State University Hospital and she's risking her
life every time she goes to work. She's not only
a hero at work, she's also my daughter's step mom.
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Haley and my ex husband are both R T S
O s U. And I'm thankful for Haley and the
positive influence she is for my daughter as well. Thanks
for all you do, Chrissie Errol Wood, So shout out
to Haley. Yes, Respiratory therapy much needed during this crazy time,
and I know that there's a lot of risk for
all therapists that are still going into work, and all
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nurses and all doctors, and all grocery store clerks and
police officers and delivery drivers. So we just appreciate all
essential workers that are still showing up for work every
day for us at to keep our lives moving, to
keep us healthy, to keep us safe, and uh, Haley,
you are one of those. So a big thank you
for me and all of my listeners. I'll just speak
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for everybody. We appreciate you so much. And then, Chrissie,
I actually loved this email because Haley is the step
mom to your children, and I think it's awesome that
you can have a relationship where you can honor her
and what she does and the role she plays in
your daughter's life. And I just think that that's a
very healthy, awesome, commendable thing. So thank you for sharing
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and nominating Haley. And that is a rap on today's episode.
As usual, I've got the email shout out, but before
I do that, I just want to acknowledge Jamie Ivy
again for coming on and being a guest for the
first three things. She's so awesome. Y'all should definitely follow
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her on Instagram at Jamie Ivy and then check out
our podcast. I mentioned it when I was talking with her,
but it's The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivy. It's so great.
She has so many amazing guests on. I was on
in two thousand fifteen, two thousand and sixteen, not quite
sure the year, but you maybe go back and search
for that episode if you want to. But really, she
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has so many cool people on. Definitely check that out. Okay,
now for the email shout out from Olivia. Hey, Amy,
I hope you're well during these chaotic times. I wanted
to share with you how much the Gratitude Journal has
helped me personally and my relationship. Both my boyfriend and
I write down what we are grateful for, and we
make a point every weekend to have a gratitude talk
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or a grat chat. I think that's kind of cute.
They came up with the name grat chat. Sharing what
makes us grateful opens up so many more conversations and
has brought us so much closer together. What we are
most grateful for is how happy and full our talks
and make us thank you for all that you do, Olivia, Olivia,
I love that. I think I'm gonna start having grat
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chats with my husband and my family and maybe other
people will do that. And guys, you don't have to
have our Four Things Gratitude journal to express things that
you are thankful for each day. You can put them
into your cell phone, you can write them down an
old journal, you can say them verbally with your family.
But something about doc amending them and keeping track of
that and making sure that you're practicing it is super important.
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And I think when you write it down, it's cool
to go back and look at what you're thankful for.
That's why Mary and I one of the many reasons
why we're pumped we put out the journal. Neither of
us like to journal, but now we're keeping track of
more things. Especially during coronavirus, it's important to focus on
the things that you are thankful for to make sure
you keep yourself on the right track mentally and don't
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lose sight of even the little things, the big things,
but especially the small things. So four Things gratitude journals,
they're great, but again you do not need them, and
you can find them at Radio Amy dot com if
you want one or four things dot com however you
want to get there. But I just appreciate y'all emailing me.
I appreciate you sharing with me how you use some
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of our things or just tips that you have in life.
Y'all have a great rest of your weekend, a great weekend,
and I'll see you again next Thursday. And I'm gonna
go ahead and say this here now, if you made
it to the end, I don't know for sure for
sure because it hasn't happened yet, but I'm sure that
next Thursday's episode will be with Robin Roberts. And if
you know, you know, because you know that I am
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obsessed with her and she's like the one person I
want to get on this podcast. So if you made
it all the way to the end, then you know
the big treat that could be coming our way next Thursday.
I'll keep you all posted. But it's crazy that it's happening,
and get excited. Okay, little food for you so life.
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