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March 23, 2021 18 mins

This is Amy’s ‘5th Thing’ (a bonus episode). ‘4 Things With Amy Brown’ comes out every Thursday, but on Tuesdays Amy shares emails from you guys and answers questions y’all have sent in. On today’s episode Amy addresses: a listener that is fundraising for her 1-year-old son’s kidney transplant (COTAforWeston.com), another listener is starting therapy for the first time and is looking for advice, a disordered eating article that is OUTWEIGH inspired, mother/son wedding dance songs, and an upcoming TED Talk on Gratitude!

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Happy Tuesday, everybody. Welcome to the fifth Thing Bonus episode
of the Four Things podcast, where I share emails that
you have sent in, and we always start Tuesday episodes
off with a quote I like to do that give
you some encouragement here at the beginning that you can
take with you. But I am replacing today's quote by
telling you about an email that I got from a

(00:30):
mother named Molly who has a one year old son
named Weston, and Weston needs a kidney transplants and there
are a lot of expenses associated with that. So their
family has launched a CODA campaign for Weston, and CODA
stands for Children's Organ Transplant Association, and he's got his
own little website. If you go to it, you can

(00:51):
see Weston's sweet, smiling face. He just is precious, and
I feel for his mom, Molly, feel for his whole family.
So I'm doing what I can right now and just
letting you know about Weston and maybe just encouraging you.
If you have some monthly giving you like to do,
and maybe you're looking to diversify where you give, maybe
consider donating towards Western's kidney transplant this month if you

(01:15):
like to treat yourself to Starbucks once a week or
maybe even every day. You can sacrifice the trip to
Starbucks and make you know, a five ten dollar donation.
Maybe you can just spare one dollar. Maybe you can
just post about Coda for Weston dot com on your
Facebook page or your Instagram or your Twitter. Maybe you
can't contribute financially, but you can help spread the word

(01:37):
about this. So Coda for Weston dot com is the website.
If y'all can help out, that would be amazing. C
O T A four fo R Weston w E S
t O N dot com. All right, I'm gonna get
into the first email, but Molly too. If you're listening
as the mom, just know. Also another way that I
know my amazing listeners are gonna help out is they're

(01:59):
gonna be praying for Weston. So maybe not everybody's gonna
be able to give, but they'll share it and they
will be praying for Weston. I can guarantee you that, alright.
Email number one is from Brandy. Hey, Amy, I'm starting
therapy for the first time next week, and I have
a couple of questions. First, how do I start? How
do I share forty years of experience in an hour

(02:20):
without just being a verbal explosion. Is it okay to
just tiptoe into the therapy waters and get to things
as they arise, or is the therapist looking for a
big picture from the beginning. I want to share meaningful reflection,
not just vent or is venting okay? Should I share
what I think my issues are? Or just tell my
story and let someone who is actually trained sort out

(02:42):
my mess? Any tips or guidance would be appreciated. Your
friend you didn't even know you had, Brandy. Okay, Well,
thanks for emailing, Brandy, and I'm so glad you're able
to do something like this for yourself. I know I
felt similar thoughts when I started with a new therapist
actually about a month ago. And I've been in therapy
for a while, but started with someone new, believe it
or not, even though I've been to therapy before, I

(03:03):
had all the same thoughts and I think all of
your questions are valid. And then you know, when my
session actually started with my new therapist, I remember to
just trust the process. Like most therapists that I've gone
to have been amazing at guiding me, and then when
I let go and trust, it's much easier. Now, I
will say that it is helpful for them to get

(03:24):
a life script from you of sorts, so that they
can understand maybe why you're processing the way that you are.
And I went ahead and looked at the definition of
a life script because I've had therapists use it on me.
But I wanted to be able to share with you
what it was in case anyone listening might be like, wait, what,
what's a life script? And here is what I pulled
from the internet. A life script is another way of

(03:46):
describing the meaning we attribute to the events that happened
to us. Depending on our particular script, we can interpret
an event in a number of different ways. Psychologists believe
that our life scripts are usually created in childhood. And
then of course there's various benchmarks about your life that
can change it. But to better answer your email, Brandy,
I reached out to my friend Kata Fata to help

(04:06):
me out with this because she is a therapist and
I thought she could give a professional opinion here and
here is what cats sent, hey, Brandy. So this is
a very common experience to be having. For the most part,
I can feel more anxiety from clients during the first
session than at any other time. First sessions are weird.
There are things that therapists have to talk about, like

(04:29):
policies and confidentiality that take up some time, and then
it sometimes feels like there's a rush to get in
a good session. My encouragement is to walk into the
space without a rush and without a fixed agenda for yourself.
Every therapist has their own way of doing a first session,
or what I call an intake session. Also, often there
is no resolve after a first session. It is a

(04:52):
starting place, a step towards what you need. It can
feel really good to finally get things off your chest
and talk to someone, but often you will leave an
intake session thinking to yourself, what did I even just say?
So I usually recommend giving yourself some time to decompress
afterwards before you jump right back into life. As a therapist,

(05:12):
I'm trying to understand what exactly it is that the
client is looking for and gather the information that I
need in order to formulate some kind of a treatment plan.
In the first session, I ask a lot of questions
and allow space for the client to ask me what
they need as well. However, there is no definite plan
or fixed agenda if someone needs to cry or justvent
for fifteen minutes, we do that. There really isn't a

(05:35):
wrong way to do it. Think of it as you're
going to a professional, an expert, so you can take
the pressure of knowing what and how to do things off.
A good therapist will create a space where you feel
welcome to share and also supported in guiding you to
what you need. Long story long, Let the experience happen
without trying to control it. Therapy is like any other

(05:57):
relationship where we learn in time as the relation and
ship grows. We don't need to know every detail of
everything by week one or week two or three. Wishing
you the very best. Alright, So, Brandy, that's what Cat
had to say, And to anyone else listening, if you
haven't already, and even you, Brandy, I recommend you checking
out cats podcast. It's called You Need Therapy, And I

(06:19):
included cats podcast in my network that I launched because
I just love and appreciate how simply she puts things
and she does a good job helping people feel at
ease if they're ever overwhelmed by the thought of therapy
or whatever is going on with them. So Cat de Fata,
you need therapy, start with that podcast. If you're contemplating

(06:39):
anything but Brandy. I hope that us auddressing your email
there helps you out and keep us posted on your
therapy journey. All right. Email number two is from MICHAELA. Hey, Amy,

(07:00):
I'm a native of College Station and currently a sophomore
at Texas A and M. I've always known about in
or XC on bolimia and felt bad for those who
struggled with it, but I didn't realize that my experiences
were just as disordered when it came to food until
your podcast. I'm thankful I was able to learn more
about myself, so I appreciate you being gentle and honest
with your experiences. I recently started writing for an online

(07:23):
women's magazine called Her Campus at Texas A and M,
and have found an amazing group of college women who
have had a lot of the same struggles as me.
I got the courage to finally put a small part
of my eating disorder struggle into words. I don't know
if you'll be able to read it, but I wanted
to share it with you since you're such a big
part of it. Thanks and giggle, MICHAELA. Okay, MICHAELA. Thank

(07:44):
you so much for sending me this. I was able
to read it, and now I'm actually going to read
it here for other people to hear. As a fellow Aggie,
I'm definitely super proud of you for sharing some of
your stories with others at Texas A and M and
now with others on my podcast. You are helping people
by opening up with your story. Okay, So here is
what Mikhaela wrote in her article for her campus. It

(08:06):
is titled how My Life Outweighs. It starts off with
a trigger warning for eating disorders and body image issues,
so I will do the same here for you listening.
And then she goes on to say, for my friends
with eating disorders, disordered eating, or a lack of love
for their beautiful bodies, I've been reflecting on my journey
with self image, self love, and especially my relationship with food.

(08:28):
It's no secret that our society has a specific image
of what a beautiful body looks like, an ever changing
target that has little basis and what modern medicine has
found to be healthy. This weaponizing of bodies, especially of
women and even more so women of color, has had
devastating effects on the way we look think and talk
about ourselves and others. This seemingly small internal insecurity has

(08:52):
translated into even larger problems in society, like toxicity in
the fitness community and diet culture overall. When it comes
to you my personal journey with body image and my
relationship with food, it's important to note that this is
ongoing and I am, by no means an expert and
didn't come to the forefront of my life until this
last year. I learned to what shouldn't have been a

(09:12):
surprise that eating disorders don't always look like anorexia and
bulimia that we witnessed through secondary school or an entertainment.
It looks like skipping lunch even though you're hungry because
you're going to have X Y Z for dinner. It
looks like making sure you're always at a calorie deficit,
even if it means staying up until eleven fifty nine
pm working out. It looks like feeling guilty for eating

(09:35):
two double stuffed oreos and making yourself go on the
treadmill to burn off that exact amount of calories. I
didn't know that's what eating disorders looked like, even though
I had done every single one I can't really describe
to you what it feels like to discover that you
have an eating disorder. It truly flipped my world upside down,
and as cheesy as it sounds, I wouldn't have discovered

(09:57):
it without one of my favorite morning radio show hosts.
In high school, I always listened to Amy on the
Bobby Bone Show. She was funny, talkative, interesting, and never
afraid to interject herself in her group of extroverted male
co hosts. On top of that, she's from Austin, Texas
and as an aggie just like me. When I started
listening to her solo podcast, Four Things with Amy Brown
insequential eating disorder recovery podcast Outweigh, I learned that she

(10:21):
had majorly struggled with her own disordered eating. Although this
was hard for me to hear as an EmPATH and
a major fan of hers, it forced me to recognize
that I shared many of the habits she listed as
taking away from her life. The lens through which I
formally looked at food was destroyed and I didn't want
to go back. While I still struggle with what I
choose to eat, whether it's after feeling guilty for having

(10:43):
two extra scoops of ice cream, or wondering if I
should quote be good and order a salad. I won't
ever be able to return to the level of unkindness
that I showed myself and my body. I share all
of this only to encourage you to reflect on your
own eating habits, how they have changed, and how you
think about food. Realizing I had an eating disorder took

(11:04):
me nineteen years, but a life without disordered Eating outweighs everything,
as Amy says, if you are someone close to you
is in need of assistance in an eating disorder recovery.
The following resources are free and publicly available National Eating
Disorders Association, Outweigh podcast and National Alliance on Mental Health. MICHAELA. Rush,

(11:26):
Texas A and M University Class of three. I guess
you just say Classes twenty three. But MICHAELA, you're awesome
for sharing this in this publication that goes out to
everyone at Texas A and M. Like, I think it's
so brave and awesome, and there are so many girls
that are going to read that. And I mean, I
can't tell you in college how many hours I spent

(11:47):
at the gym in College Station, the very town that
you live in Il s been two hours at the gym.
And also when I was probably when I was a
junior at Texas A and M. I signed up to
run a marathon and there was a training group on
campus and I met up with everybody there, and I
honestly only signed up because I thought if I ran
a marathon, it would help me lose weight. And that's

(12:09):
just the wrong motivation to do anything, but that's why
I wanted to do it. And yeah, I ended up
running twenty six point two miles, but no, I didn't
really lose any weight, and I actually ended up injuring
my body big time, and it just delayed what I
was able to even do with my body for months
and months after that. So I think you're gonna be
helping a lot of people, and keep it up, keep

(12:30):
writing articles as they come to you, keep sharing your
story as you see fit, And thank you so much
for sending me this article, all right. Email number three
is from Christine. Hey, Amy, I was wondering if you
could help me find an appropriate song to dance with
my son too. I raised him as a single mom,
and I basically want to say that I hope I
did enough for him and I hope he knows he
has my greatest accomplishment ever. Okay, Christine, I can't remember

(12:54):
from the subject of this email. Maybe you put like
a wedding song or something, but I'm pretty sure that
you need wedding songs to dance too with your son
for like the mother son dance. And of course, being
that I am the biggest dear Mama tupuck fan ever.
I don't know the vibe that y'all are looking for,
but you know I got to throw that out there
as an option for you. I finally understand for mint

(13:18):
easy and trying to raise the pain you always was
commedian a poor single month a whole wealth and tell
me how you did. That's the way I can pay
you back. But the plan is to show you that
I understand you all appreciate Mama and Christine. Another one

(13:41):
that comes to mind. It would be Timmergrawl's humble and
kind the sad please said thank you. No, I know
you got out to Mr Job, always damning and try

(14:03):
when the dream you dream and come to when work.
And there's also the pretenders. I'll stand by you when
you con get me love you, I'll stand by you

(14:23):
I'll stand by you. I'll stand by you. I also
like Rod Stewart's Forever Young Yourself Right and in Forever

(14:50):
for Every Good You'll Be When Your Guide Died, and
then Home by Philip Phillips Trouble You Always. I'm going

(15:22):
on me all right, Christine. Without knowing y'all, it's hard
to know what will be the best fit, but those
are definitely some options that came to mind that I
thought I could share with you. Hopefully you'll find the

(15:43):
perfect song, whether it's one of these or something totally different,
and keep me posted on how it goes, all right.
Email number four is from Suzanne. Hey, Amy, First off,
I love that I'm writing you like you're an actual
friend of mine. I'm an avid listener of the Bobby
Bones Show, and I have followed four things since the beginning.
I'm at teacher in d C, and naturally, I follow
other teachers on Instagram. Christina is someone that I follow,

(16:06):
and she's an educator and an amazing woman, and she's
currently battling brain cancer and has taken Instagram along for
the journey. Her handle is at miss like m s
Dot Christina Costa. Anyway, all this to say, she's giving
a TED talk on March on the neuroscience of gratitude,

(16:26):
and I just had to tell you I have a
gratitude journal and I love how you always speak about it,
and I just needed to pass along the word. Christina
is truly amazing taking this challenge and turning it into
a book of poetry and a TED talk on gratitude.
I hope you'll get to follow along your friend, Suzanne. Alright, Suzanne,
thank you for sharing this account with me and Christina's

(16:48):
upcoming TED talk. I will for sure be checking it out,
and I hope that others will too. For anyone else interested,
I'm gonna share her Instagram handle one more time. It's M.
S dot Christina Costa c O. S. T A. All right,
that is a wrap on today's emails. I love hearing
from you. If you don't know the email address, it's
four Things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com. You

(17:09):
can reach out about anything and everything. Just put fifth
thing in the subject line if it's something that you
would like for me to address in the episodes. Uh,
some housekeeping things on well, four Things and a squa stuff.
I just want you all to know we just restocked
star necklaces last week. They were sold out for a while,
but they are back in stock. I definitely wear mine
every day. It's the best and they're made by women

(17:31):
here in Nashville, Able and they've transitioned out of homelessness
and the necklaces then go on to support Haiti. So
they're kind of cool because they have a local and
a global impact. We also have Neon Pink four Things
I'm Fine t shirts coming out. They may already be up,
depending on when you're listening to this. They say it's fine,
I'm fine, Everything is fine, just like our pullovers. But

(17:52):
their short sleeve tease just in time for spring and
they're very cute. Again, may or may not be up,
depending on when your list. Lastly, we are still doing
our four Things gratitude challenge and it's never too late
to join in and write down four things each day
that you're thankful for. You can do so in your
own notebook, or you can get our spa four Things
journal that Mary and I designed. Links to all this

(18:14):
stuff can be found at radio amy dot com. And
if you do post about your gratitude journal again, whether
you're writing it in your own notebook or ours, make
sure you tag us on Instagram because we would love
to see it at Radio Amy, at Shop Espoire, at
the Shop Forward. I know that's a lot of handles,
but we definitely appreciate you tagging us so that we
can repost and share and see what you're thankful for.

(18:36):
All Right, hope y'all are having a great week. I
will be back on Thursday. I'm pretty sure this Thursday's
episode is with Emily Lay and then next week I'm
going to have Karen Fairchild from a little big town on,
so that'll be pretty exciting what you have to look
forward to. All right, talk to you later By

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