September 22, 2022 • 46 mins
FIRST THING: Is sour cream a snack?? Jk jk. It’s not, but it almost made Amy’s list of snacks she’s loving right now because she eats it so much lately. Kat and Amy give you 4 snacks you need to add to your pantry ASAP! Link to the Dang Chips Amy talks about HERE!
SECOND THING: Amy gave more details about her first-ever live podcast event. The night will take you on a journey through 4 questions in search of a more fulfilling, joyful life:
• What does it look like to really live your life?
• What have you not been able to admit to yourself?
• What is the next right step for you?
• How do you want to be remembered?
Amy has been working through these questions herself, as she desires to:
LIVE LIFE.
GET UNSTUCK.
MAKE A MOVE.
SHOW UP.
Get your tickets tomorrow (Friday, 9/23) at www.selectaseat.com/amy for an intimate night talking about living life, getting unstuck, making a move, and learning how to show up!
THIRD THING: Kat tells us a little bit about her latest ‘You Need Therapy Podcast’ episode titled: “Are We Going Through Mental Health Overload with Liz Plank.” And here’s the podcast description: Why does everything seem hard, bad, scary, and exhausting these days? Have we taken "it's ok to not be ok" too far? Are our boundaries becoming too rigid and are we losing the ability to find grace within our human relationships? These are all things Kat and Liz discuss and things that could be the missing piece to the puzzle that you keep looking for in the next self-help influencer, wellness coach, or tiktok therapist. Click the link to listen to the full episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/are-we-going-through-a-mental-health-overload-with-liz-plank/id1488275879?i=1000579884373
FOURTH THING: Amy shares a list of ‘Rules to Live By’ that she received from a friend!
-Avoid the need to make others think I am right
-Never give unsolicited advice - it’s always received as criticism
-Don’t look for or expect personal slights or criticism. If I’m looking for them I will find them in abundance.
-Extend love, comfort and understanding rather than demand to be loved comforted and understood
-Always act on principle - not on thoughts, feelings, or even good motives
-Be unfailingly courteous
-The high road is never the wrong road
-Don’t have big deals regardless of how much my ego wants me to believe things are a big deal
-Leave policing and judging to those paid to do so
-You’re already OK and you’re the one that doesn’t know it.
-Figure out what your job is -what their job is - what God’s job is - and let everybody do their job.
Thank you licensed therapist, Kat Defatta, for joining us with her wisdom. You can find her on Instagram: @Kat.Defatta + @YouNeedTherapyPodcast
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, Little Food for you. So life. Oh it's pretty,
but it's pretty beautiful. Thanks. Beautiful laughs, a little moth
(00:29):
kicking with four happy Thursday, four things, fam fun surprise.
Cat is normally on the fifth thing, but she's on
four things today and it's an o g episode, like
first thing, the second thing, and right now we're inside
the first thing and cat and I are going to
talk about snacks. I feel like I'm always looking for
(00:49):
fun new things to eat, and so we're going to
share with you four things that we're obsessed with right
now and maybe it'll bring you joy. Maybe it'll bring
some joy to your pantry or two your refrigerator, which,
speaking of Pantries, I just have to shout out to
California Closets Nashville, because my pantry just got installed recently
and it is a dream. What do you mean by that?
(01:12):
Well Do. I've done endorsements with them on the bobby
bones show for a long time. This is not a
commercial by any means. I'm just like literally a fan
and shouting them out right now, but I do do
commercials locally on the big ninety eight, but not here
on the podcast, ever. But they did my pantry at
my old house and then I moved and I was
depressed because I just got it done and then someone
came and knocked on our door and offered to buy
(01:32):
our house cash. Basically, technically the real it or knocked,
but you know what I mean, and the knock was
a text, but it was like nobody knocked on your door.
It wasn't an actual I always imagine, when you told
me that, that somebody literally knocked on your door and
said Hey, I'd like to buy your house and you're like, okay,
let me get my stuff, because that's how it happened.
(01:55):
So we ended up moving and I was really sad.
And then when we went into our new house, I
had to do some spots with them and so it's
always good to have an experience when you're doing the spots.
So we decided to do the garage to help give
some organization to the garage. So we did that a
couple of years ago and then they were back and
wanted to do another area and I said let's do
the Pantry. So what do they do? Like the completely
(02:17):
gut it. I go to the design center, we pick
out everything, the type of you know, shelves, and drawers
that will fit my needs in my vibe and we
ended up putting this like magnetic whiteboard cabinet thing in
there and behind the cabinet is all the medicine, but
then on the white board, that's where we now it's
the family puts important things that you need to see,
or messages or instead of just papers being out on
(02:39):
the kitchen counter, they're now stuck to the board. So anyway,
I think we said joy to the pantry. It made
me think of how happy my pantry makes me right now,
and so I'm super grateful for that opportunity to do
that through work. It's very cool and I'm excited. Yeah, well,
I get your excitement of a pantry because I've never
(02:59):
had one in my adult life. My parents had one,
but I always had to put my food in like
a cabinet, like a dish cabinet, and like shove it
in there and it was always organized and I couldn't buy,
I couldn't have like just stuff on hand because I
know where to put it and when I moved. I
hope pantry and you can walk. Well, you can't really
walk in it, but you can like walk in it.
(03:20):
There's space for you to be in it and for
you to shut the door. Never had in my life.
I have stuff that's not food in my pantry because
it's so much room. I have all my appliances on
a shelf. I love it. It's like the things to
get excited about. And yes, I've lived in houses before
without a pantry and it is it's crazy. Try, but
you can get creative and you can find your space
and cabinets and you just figure it out and make
(03:42):
it work. But I also didn't have in that House
that you don't realize you really need until you don't
have it. A garbage disposal. Yeah, those are Nice. I
feel like a new person because now you have one. Yes,
I know it's fun. I'm like, let me flip the switch. Likes.
You don't realize you're going to enjoy so much like
as an adults until it breaks, when your garbage disposed
(04:04):
to breaks. But Your Dad's a building. Yeah, you can
call Your Dad, but that is always a bummer when
things like that happen. Okay, so let's get onto the
fun park. We'll to each you to to equal four
foods that people need to try or have. So I'll
start with the first thing being the Dang little crispy
rice cake chip thingies. They're just called Dang saying. That's
(04:28):
what they're called. D A N ging, the ones that
I tried where they're Sarracha spice. They're called sticky rice
chips by Dang foods and they're very good and I
don't really like Saracha that much, but I liked these.
When I ate it I was like, Dang, that's interesting
(04:53):
Um name. Yeah, okay, I'm actually looking them up. They
have so many flavors, because I wouldn't like the SARATA ones,
but they have a toasted sesame one and a coconut
crunch one. These look delicious. Yeah, Dang, Dang, Dang, that
so many flavors. Dang, Dang, Thai rice chips. They got
(05:14):
him on Amazon, WALMART DOT COM. I don't have to
leave your house to get these. Dang foods DOT COM.
So good. Oh and this probably isn't one of our things,
so I'll throw it in as a bonus one, but
Kat and I are both obsessed with Athletic Greens right
now as a way to get our Greens. I have
I say right now. I've always been a fan of
them and have used it for years, but you're new
to it. Yeah, well, I always wanted to try it
(05:36):
and I never actually did and then I got a
nice little package with it in there. And I will
say I'm a person who, like, really would love to
prefer to eat three meals that have all the things
I need and find it that way. But sometimes it
doesn't happen by the things you need, like nutrients. Sometimes
it just doesn't happen in vitamins and minerals, and so
it's very convenient. You know, it came with this little
(05:58):
water bottle that I think is just like sippy thing
in it, because you have to shake it and stir it. Well,
that is my tip for you if you're gonna try it.
But it is a way, especially when you're on the
go or you know you're not getting or traveling the
nutrients that your body requires and needs to feel its best.
And so, yeah, a little bonus. Athletic Greens are bonus
(06:21):
favorite snack, which is not really my favorite snack. It's
like a supplement, but it's a way and it should
not in any way supplement any food by any means,
but it's just a way of like hey, you know,
if you're not, if you're not going to be able
to get some Greens or different things in your body,
then we don't have to go without. Right. It's very good.
(06:41):
I will give a little tip that I added fresh
squeezed lemon juice and it tastes pretty good and I'm
gonna have to try that. So you put it in,
you shook it up and then you added some lemon juice. Okay,
it tastes just like a green juice now, which I
really like. Yeah, I did the Dang chips. What do
you got for a second thing? So I snacked them,
obsessed with right now. It's not one that anybody's really
(07:03):
gonna like. Oh, I've never heard of that. It's just
animal crackers. But okay, so I've always liked animal crackers.
But if you think about when you're younger, did you
like to get the animal crackers that came in the
Little Red Box? Yes, so, yes, me too, but as
an adult I actually like the kind that come in
(07:24):
the plastic bear at I find them a target. Well,
I must say I saw the plastic bear in your
pantry the other day and it did bring me joy. Yeah,
just seeing it's so cute, so cute, so cute, but
I didn't realize, like, because when you think of animal crackers,
I used to think, Oh, they're so plain, that wouldn't
be they're so good, so good, and it makes you
feel like a kid again. However, you have to get
(07:46):
them in the plastic bear. You can't just get like
animal crackers in the box, which I bet you could order.
Make sure if you can't find the plastic beer your
grocery store, you probably just order it on. I gotta
say I want to add the plastic beer to my
pantry because it'll look really cute and you can reuse
the plastic bear and put other things in it and
you're good, especially if you have kids and like different supplies. And,
(08:07):
oh my gosh, she could really D I y that
plastic bear into something for a child's room. Maybe make
it a lamp. I don't make a plastic I don't know.
I just pictured me. I was thinking like you put
blocks in it or something, but that kind of storage container. Yeah,
that's probably a better idea. I have no idea how
to turn it into a lamp. Okay, third thing I
(08:30):
would like to talk about sour cream. That's not a snack.
Isn't like you can't just eat sour cream, can't you?
But you can dip. I bet that would be amazing.
I'm more bringing the sour cream in as like maybe
a condiment you need to add to your fridge. Now,
(08:51):
some people sour cream makes some want a gag, though,
so I probably should come up with something else. I
just thought. Sour cream is in my fridge right now
because I made my daughter that Buffalo Chicken dip. Yes,
so it's got cream, cheese, sour cream, cheddar cheese, bacon,
shredded chicken and a packet of ranch seasoning and then
(09:14):
some buffalo sauce and you mix that and you bake
it in the oven and it is I mean pre
cook the chicken and the Bacon before you put it
in there, but it is so good. But we had
leftover sour cream from that and I don't always buy
sour cream because I forget. But I know I've talked
about sour cream before, so I know that I love it,
but I don't talk about it multiple right, but I
(09:36):
don't always have it in my fridge and I realized
why do not? Why do I not keep this as
a staple? This is so good. I put it on
my Tacos, I put it in my bowls chicken Sausa, yes,
my chicken SAUCA bowls. That's probably when we've talked about
sour cream. It's like you need to have it, but
also in recovery for my eating disorder. I know that
I've mentioned sour cream is something that I didn't allow
myself to have and then now, in recovery, absolutely allow
(09:59):
myself to have it if I go to chipotle or whoever.
But I was reminded this week to keep it stocked,
like keep that on my grocery list and get it
or get the big top from Costco, now that I'm
a costco member. What you really are? Actually I'm going
there today to get a mattress topper and some gas,
because they have cheap gas. Yes, so I'm just a fan,
(10:20):
staying out different ways to use sour cream. I stand
sour cream. Yes, if the sour cream council was to
hire me as an ambassador, you should have an advert.
What's the sour cream brand? I did land a lakes. Well,
if you're listening out there, Sur cream reps. yeah, sour
cream council. Maybe it is part of the dairy council. Maybe.
(10:43):
So you know, there could be something okay, but can
we scream from the rooftops without being an ambassador? But
I just think it's so good. But it's more so
just me screaming from the rooftops to eat things that
bring you happiness and don't cut them out of your
life because someone tells you you shouldn't have dairy. Some
people cannot have dairy and that is a fact. But
(11:05):
I had convinced myself somehow that I can't have dairy,
but my body metabolizes dairy just fine, so bring it wait.
I really appreciate that you love Sur cream so much
and I think you should offer one extra snack, just
because scream is not actually a snack. Okay, I'm just
(11:25):
gonna be there and you think back for holding me accountable.
So my second thing that I'm obsessed with right now
are the outshine fruit pop schools. I don't know if
you know specifically the peach, but I feel as though
we're getting into fall and then popsicles like the last
(11:46):
thing on my brain. But you eat ice cream all
throughout the year, don't you? That's cold, like I think
that's is it the fact that it's cold that you
think you don't want it. Okay, yeah, good point. You Win.
I'm wanting. Yeah, thank you, but actually maybe I don't
know what's going to happen, but I'm pretty sure I'm
gonna keep eating these. The peach one in the strawberry
one is actually also very good and there's like real
(12:08):
chunks of frozen strawberries in there. They're so good and
I've been eating one every single day and I have
to tell a little story. It kind of goes along
with the sour cream. I went to target to get
the animal crackers. I specifically went to target for the
animal crackers and I was doing a little shopping and
just like walking around target. I went to the frozen
section and target to get more popsicles as well, because
(12:29):
I didn't want around up those because that would be
really bad. And right next to the pop schools was
I'm not going to say the brand name, but it was,
and there's also like a lot of these, I think,
different brands, was this low calorie protein ice cream. Of those.
So these things like market. It like you couldn't eat
the whole pint and it's low calorie in high protein,
(12:52):
and I used to eat that all of the time
and I was convinced that I really like loved it too,
like it was one something that would look forward to eating,
and I would also eat the whole pint, because that's
what the point of it was. was like you could
eat all this and quotes ice cream, but it was
low calorie. So I was like, Oh, I remember that
being good. That was my thought in my head of
(13:12):
there's these two flavors. My favorite ice creams are birthday
cake and cookies and cream always, no matter what kind
of ice cream it is. So they had them, so
I bought them and instead of having my popsicle after
dinner the other night, I was like Oh, Big p Patrick,
my boyfriend, I was like I got this ice cream stuff,
we should have it, and he was like okay, because
(13:32):
he just will eat whatever. And I took one bite
of it and I like gagged, like it was like
not good at all. I feel like that's happened to
me multiple times since being in recovery and things that
I used to think tasted really good zero desire for them,
and how I used to eat so much of it,
I don't know, but really I think it was just
(13:53):
a mental thing I was convince yourself. It's brainwashing. You
brainwashed yourself. Yeah, because I wanted to believe that this
tasted good, but actually didn't. And no shame if anybody
eats that and actually does taste good to you and
it's you haven't brainwashed yourself because that. I don't want
to anybody to feel shamed, like Oh, I actually do
like that ice cream and you enjoyed some last night. Great,
(14:15):
that's awesome. It's just in our personal experience with it.
And so Patrick, but Patrick liked it, like I said that,
which speaks to your point. Like Pat I was like,
oh my gosh, was just so bad, and Patrick was like,
I kind of like it. So he ate a good
amount of it, but then I was like, I don't
want that, I want this popsicle. So then I had
a popsicool perfect. So your recommendation is to put stuff
(14:39):
in your freezer that you actually really like, because the
popsicles bring you and tell you. When I open up
my freezer and I see the different flavors of pop
schools that I can choose from for the day, I
definitely feel joy. Yeah, okay, I found mine, okay, and
it is from Sieta, which is one of my favorite companies.
Like I love Sieta as a whole. They've come on
the podcast before their mission and they're awesome. But if
(15:00):
you tried their truro strips, you brought those to my office,
or those just their chips? I think that was just
their chips. No, I don't think the true ones are
the cinnamon. Oh I have had those. They're so good.
They are so good and Siete has expanded. Years ago
it was hard to find them, but now I feel
like they're in most everywhere stores and they're everywhere. And
(15:21):
I was about to say something about them that I
got an email from them that they're working on something exciting,
but I don't know if it's public news yet. Well,
I don't know because they wanted to send something to me,
but just know that Sianta is working on something that's
going to be very, very cool. And then, speaking of
surprises too, I also just signed a contract on something
that is I'm gonna get to announce later this fall.
(15:42):
That was you know how contracts sometimes are really long
and you're like, I should have probably read every line.
Did you read this? But I didn't read every line.
I read most of them and then I just trusted.
I don't recommend. You're going to tell what I will.
Can't right now, but I signed it. Yeah, you know,
you probably you know, but it's okay. We don't need
(16:04):
to take people on it. I'm just saying I have
something inside things coming up because is working on something cool.
I probably can say it. It It probably is fellacknowledged, but
I don't want to get in trouble. And then my
thing I will be able to say soon, and it's
not the live which toll event. We've already announced that.
It's something different. It'll be on TV and it's not
(16:26):
the Christmas movie something. Okay, so we have that. We
should be Super Fun. Well, and then I'll just say
in the next thing, cat and I are going to
be talking about the live podcast and why the topics
are the way that they are, like the questions that
are gonna be asked, the four questions of the night,
(16:46):
the themes. Why was it curated that way and why
was it important for me to have it flow the
way that it is? And so we'll talk about that next.
But we do have one other snack to get into.
The final and fourth from you, or did we already do,
for I already did my two. Oh, did we did?
I'm like, dig it, that is my cast. Okay, well,
(17:08):
let's recap. Okay, so I had Dang Oh, and then
you had anna crackers, and then I said sour cream.
You said that didn't count, so that's when you shared popsicles,
and then I came back with St Churo Strips. That's
because we're and then we gave a bonus because of
the Athletic Greens, which is not a snap. That's really
(17:29):
six because, yeah, we shared the buffalo situation, which it's
football season, so you've got to make that if I
was going to any football parties, which I'm not, do
you want to go to one? No, that's what I'm saying.
I watched, I watched my sun play football every Saturday now,
and that's when I'm into football. I will say, enjoy
football a lot more now that he's playing and I'm
(17:51):
a football mom. But if I was invited somewhere I
needed to bring a dish, I would take this buffalo
chicken everybody likes because it's a out pleaser, and then
I would serve it with Tortillas, chips, whatever kind of
tortillas you like. I think you can serve it with
crackers if you want. Oh, I bet a ritz cracker
would probably real good with that, O g Ritz cracker.
(18:14):
So good. Okay. So there you go. I'm sure we've
made you hungry with this thing, so we will move on.
So for me, cat, I have been wrestling with am
(18:37):
I living? Am I living my life? What does that
even look like to really live my best life? And
I would say that I've been more so in survival
mode and that I guess. And I'm still alive, so
I'm living, working, but I wanted to unpack that a
(18:59):
little bit more and that's why I feel like that's
why it's the first thing that we'll talk about at
the live podcast event. So the four things, you know,
if they were to be on a four things tote,
it might say something like live life, get unstuck, make
a move, show up. If the event which was on
a Tote, which is an event that feels like I
(19:20):
want to go to, you will be there. Yeah, okay, good,
you have to go there. So I learned from Ali Falon,
who helped me curate is there's, you know, when you're
working through something like an event, with people or even
if you're writing a book, because that's what she does,
and while I'm not writing a book, but it was
sort of like writing an evening and it was like
(19:42):
there's a problem, there's a journey, there's a resolution and
then there's like questions you can ask yourself, and so
we kind of use that as the template for it
and I will say with each section we're going to
have music recommendations to go along with each thing, because
I feel as though music is therapeutic. There will be
(20:03):
book recommendations for each thing as well, so that way
you're not just left hanging at the end of the
night when we go through some of these, you have
some resources to use to start this journey, if you will.
You're taking people on a journey that you are on
and want to continue to go on. Ye, you're inviting
them into that and I would say, like big pictures,
(20:26):
that we're doing it as a community, like that's what
it's all about, like even taking this show on the
road or showing up to this podcast every week, even
though it's not on the road, it's about community and
knowing that we're not alone in all the different things
in life, but getting out there together and being able
to see faces. It's going to be really cool. And
(20:47):
then for those of you that aren't going to be
able to go to which at all, like listening back
to the episodes, you'll be a part of the community.
You'll be a part of it and you'll be listening
to people. You're fell listeners, asking questions and diving into
some of this. And so, yeah, we'll be sharing stories.
There's some video components that are going to be played
(21:09):
that people will get to see, which will just be
audio for the podcast. But yeah, live life, get unstuck,
make a move and show up. And ending with the
show up was intentional because it was how how do
you want to be remembered? How do you want to
show up in the world? What do you want that
to look like like? Let's say you are living your life.
Are you want to live a more full life, but
(21:32):
you're stuck. So that's why the second thing is get unstuck.
What is holding you down? And I've got some personal
things that will be walking through and sharing. You know,
and in the first thing a second ago, we're talking
about we both have a history with eating disorders. Like
I was very stuck in that and I had to
choose to get unstuck. And you know what, as you're talking,
I'm thinking because I recently asked somebody a very simple
(21:54):
question on you need therapy, my podcast, and it was
how do you want to be introduced, like if you
could introduce yourself, like what do you want people to
know about you before they hear you speak? And she
took a second to answer it and to me I
was like I'm asking a really simple question, like how
do you what do you want people to know about you?
(22:14):
And usually people give this like laundry list of like
I did this, and I'm this and I won this
award and this is my job. She has a long
resume of things that she has accomplished, like super, super
out of control accomplished person, and she gave such a
good answer. Had nothing to do with any of that.
And as you were speaking, I was thinking about that
(22:36):
because I don't think that that's actually has comma of
a question that we really think about it, like how
do I want to be remembered? What do I want
people to know about me, which speaks to how am
I living my life, and this whole night in the
conversations around it, and that will come from it. I
think it's going to actually have an impact way bigger
than like one night or one podcast, because people are
(22:57):
going to be leaving continuously thinking about those questions and
then asking other people those questions right in your in
your different every this is a community. But then you
have your own communities and you could take it to
friend groups, Girls Nights, family members, significant other and yeah,
continue to kids. That's a good like even asking that
(23:19):
like question of what do you want people to know
about you before they listen to you? Like finding your
own way to ask that question to your friends. I
want to do that just from asking that person in
my podcast that question. I want to continue to ask
my friends. But what do you want people to really
know about you? And so this whole night is going
to really get a lot of those questions. I think
writing the People's brains, which Ali is great with writing prompts,
(23:40):
and so that's another takeaway from each section is you'll
leave not just with the music and the book recommendation
and the questions, but also writing prompts so that you
can go journals about each thing and unpack this yourself.
It's not anything that's going to get unpacked in one
night by any means all whatsoever. So it's ongoing thing,
(24:02):
but I'm excited even in the unstuck thing. I've got
a little note from Walker Hayes on that and he
has been sober now for I think seven years. So
maybe it's alcohol for you or insert whatever it is
that is keeping you stuck. So hopefully that'll be a
(24:22):
good little section for you to work through. And then,
once you are unstuck, how do you make that move?
What are things that you can do? What does dreaming
look like for you in that section, because some people
don't even want to dream, and my sister and I
were unpacking that. I hope my sister gets to come.
I don't know yet if she will, but she will
definitely be in on that section for sure if she's
(24:45):
able to come. And then, yeah, it'll just be an
evening of, hopefully a lot of different emotions for everyone.
It might hit him a little bit different, I don't know.
For some people there. I don't know what questions are
going to be asked by the audience. So that's the
cool part to unknown, keeping you on your toes. You're
the expert, I feel like. If someone asks like some
(25:06):
super serious question and be like, and now I defer
to my expert, Captain Fata. Thank you for coming, but
other friends of mine that show up, I, you know,
would like for them to be involved. Like it's just
it's also gonna be laid back. Can I just be
like randomly like hey, you come out to this stage,
I want you to talk about this or whatever the
(25:26):
case will be. So it'll be a good time and
we look forward to seeing y'all there. And it's November five,
it's a Saturday night. And then it's exciting because tickets
go on sale tomorrow. Well, if you're listening to this
on Thursday, they go on sale tomorrow, which is Friday September,
and the website link to get there is select a
(25:48):
seat dot com, slash amy. Or if that's hard for
you to remember, I will have a graphic up at
radio AMY DOT com. But tomorrow is a big day. Alright, cat,
you're going to kind of lead this thing because I
would love for you to share the episode that went
up on your podcast this week. You need therapy, because
(26:10):
I feel as though it's a conversation that a lot
of people would enjoy listening to, and I will say
that Houston, who edits and produces my podcast and also yours.
I know he sent you a note that said, okay, this,
this is the best of one of my all time
favorites that you've done, and he just did that to
me a few weeks ago with my tim sure episode,
and he does not throw those out all the time.
(26:33):
So you know it's a good episode when Houston is
having to listen to it over and over while he's
producing it and putting it together. So yeah, tell us
about it. So excited about this episode because, to give
a little backstory, I feel like, I know you felt
like this at times the last probably couple months, I've
(26:54):
been feeling like, oh, I feel like I am redundant
and what I'm talking about, I feel like I'm not
adding any thing to conversations and I was just feeling
a little bit uninspired also about stuff that I was
putting out and talking about it. And it started feeling
more because a lot of him the podcast doesn't feel
like work. To me, it just feels like like fun,
like a really fun part of my job. Um, and
(27:14):
it started to feel more worky. And so part of it,
I think, had to do with this idea that I
think there's so much content around mental health that is
starting to turn in a way that makes it, the
content not so helpful, and I've talked about this on
UNI therapy a couple of times. I don't know that
(27:35):
I've ever talked about it here. And so I just
took a little break, just two weeks where I didn't
make new episodes and I ran some of the best
of episodes from the past, and then I had this
interview scheduled with this woman. Her name is Liz plank.
She is incredible. She's actually the person I was talking
about earlier about the question that I asked, and we
were going to talk about something very specific that she
(27:59):
does a lot of work on. And when she came
on to record with me, we just started talking and
you know, like there's some people that you don't know
that you'll end up having an interview with and you're like,
wait a second, I really like this person. Then it
doesn't feel like I'm like interviewing them at all. Had this,
but you never know when that's going to be. So
there's this like kind of anxiety around like is this
(28:20):
interview going to be hard or smoother? Am I going
to feel sometimes it's the opposite. I think it's going
to be easy and this person is going to be
so awesome and then, for whatever reason, and it might
be on me, but it ends up awkward and you're
like okay. So it didn't feel like that. I don't
know how it felt for her, but it felt like
it was a good conversation with both of us. We
never actually got to what we were supposed to talk about,
(28:41):
which is funny because I told her at the end,
because I had submitted my questions to her beforehand so
she could be prepared, and I was like, I'm so
sorry we didn't get to any of those things if
you had prepared them, and she was like, honestly, I
really do hate doing interviews. I like being she has
a podcast herself. She's a Co host of a podcast
called man enough, which is so good. But she said
(29:01):
I really like being the one that's interviewing. So this
was my favorite thing ever where I just get to
like have a conversation about things that just flow naturally,
and that's what it ended up being. But we talked
about this whole thing that I've been she actually brought
it up, this whole idea around like when is content
too much, like how do we know how to take
a break from that kind of content? Well, I'll even
(29:23):
say to even just in your own life, whatever you're
going through. I feel as though I have gotten to
points in the last two years and I've done so
much work that I've looked at my therapist and said,
I don't even know what's what I feel like I'm
supposed to know all this stuff because, well, I've been
taking it all in, but now I'm in overload exactly.
So that's what we talked about in and it was
(29:45):
really cool to see somebody who's like a mental health
advocate be like, I've actually been grappling with this too.
So we talked a lot about that and then we
talked about like how to have conversations with people who
like disagree with us, because there's a lot of that
in the air right now, just in the world, where
there's we have these strong differing opinions and instead of
coming together and really trying to understand the other person,
(30:06):
we're just like yelling at them, and so we talked
about that and how boundaries actually are things that were
responsible for, rather than like forcing other people to change it.
All in all, I will say, one of my favorite
conversations I've ever had in the past three years of
doing the podcast. Yeah, so if any of those things
have stuck out to you, I really recommend that you
go listen to it and I really recommend you follow
(30:29):
Liz and just went up on Monday right. It's brand new.
It's brand new and it's cool because I was actually
supposed to do this interview a month ago and I
got rescheduled and so then it got rescheduled for the
perfect timing of like I just went on this break
to clear my head and I'm like back with the Bang. Okay,
I remember when it canceled because you were so disappointed,
(30:49):
and now it's toking. We think of Donald Miller's thing
of what does make possible, and that cancelation made it
possible likely for you to have a better interview with
her because you were able to have that break and
it shifted how you handled the interview. Oh d because
I think that stuff that I was feeling around the
mental health overload, because I want you guys to hear that,
(31:10):
like I'm an advocate for like education and obviously I
put out content as a mental health professional, but I
hadn't done all the processing around that yet when that
original interview was so we wouldn't have talked about this
at all. I would have kept because I hadn't gone
through it myself. So you're right, yeah, you're right, but
I think whenever that got canceled, I said because I
(31:31):
think I texted you and I think you probably said, well,
like what does this make possible or what is surreparing
you for? donal well, and a lot of people have
said something along the lines of that in their own way.
But we always referenced Donald Miller because when he was
on the podcast we both needed to hear that, a
(31:51):
lot of people did, and he just said it in
such a time, the right time, the way he says
it is great and we just stick with it. But
I will say, like in what you're adding to to
how you're feeling with all the information, I think these
kinds of conversation are important because even if somebody is
a professional, you might not need to be listening to
me right now, and vice versa. Right about whatever professional
(32:14):
it is is like. Sometimes we have to know our
limits and we need to be really responsible about like
how many people were listening to about content, surrounding whatever
part of our lives. It can be anything, because there's
literally content. It's everywhere. There's fashion content, there's mom content,
there's how to balance your life content, there's mental health content,
(32:36):
there's physical health content, there's content. Oh my gosh, it's like, Oh,
there's a lot, and everybody, for the most part, for
the most part people that are putting this stuff out
are wanting to help people, right, but just because somebody
wants to help doesn't mean every content is for us.
Every piece of content. Okay, well, go check it out.
It's on you need therapy, which is cats podcast. She
(32:59):
puts up two episodes a week, which this one was
on Monday, and then on Wednesday you to couch talks,
which is kind of like our fifth thing, except for
I'm not on it. She has invited me to Co
host that yet. What would you like to answer the
questions that people send in? No, actually, we should do
like a amy brown takeover and you give your advice
and then see what it matches up agains. No, you're
(33:20):
the expert. I leave that up to you. But that
episode that I'm talking about, it's called are we going
through a mental health overload? With Liz plank, if you
want to listen to it. I got a text that
(33:45):
was sharing rules to live by and there's ten of them.
I have no idea really where it originated. Yeah, and
I just thought we would go over them. There's ten
and a bonus. We love bonus things like sour cream
and okay, rules to live by one avoid the need
(34:10):
to make others think I am right. MM HMM too.
Never give unsolicited advice. It's always received as criticism. Yeah,
I thought you looked at me like, oh, I know
where these rules are from. Which who? I mean? Who knows?
People listening? They'll be like, oh, yeah, that's from DA, Da, DA, Da. No,
I like that. I just like that because I think
(34:30):
that something that has been really helpful in my life is,
before I give my opinion, I will say like do
you want feedback? Are you looking for feedback, or do
you want me to listen? That, I feel like in
the Burnet Brown Atlas of the heart, the special on
Ho Max, and I'm sure you know it's just got
the book too. But what's standing out to me was
something that she said on the stage during that special.
(34:51):
was sometimes when someone's going through something, just asking them
what they need in that moment, because they might not
even need advice, so they might just want to sit
and stare at the wall or go to about something
completely different. Third thing listed here don't look for or
expect personal slights or criticism. If I'm looking for them,
I will find them in abundance. So that's sort of
(35:12):
like a just a way of thinking, which, yeah, I
have to say sometimes when I'm thinking more negatively, I
do notice more negative things and it's perpetuates. Next thing
is extend love, comfort and understanding rather than demand to
be loved, comforted and understood. So, similar like, you extend
(35:33):
it and you you don't have to demand it, but
you'll likely, hopefully receive it. Number Five, always act on principle,
not on thoughts, feelings or even good motives. What is that?
Always Act on principle, not on thought, because I feel
like sometimes if we act on our emotionings and our
emotions without really sitting with it for a while, like
(35:57):
what's really the right thing to do for us and
not be emotional response. But I think some of that
boils down to your emotional I Q. Oh, okay, I
was gonna say. That kind of makes me think of
that right, wrong and wise thing that you've talked about before. Yeah,
I learned that from my sister. Well, she hits a book.
I think it might be called right wrong. She read
(36:17):
it and yeah, but how mature are you in that
department to decipher when you're acting off, which I mean
I certainly have acted off emotions, and it's like okay,
how much time do I need to give it? Nothing's changed.
I started to say this must be principle. This is principle. Okay, six,
(36:39):
be unfailingly courteous, unfailing. Well, maybe this is a type
of it says be unfailing courteous, but maybe it's unfailingly unfailingly.
I think so. Just be courteous. That's a rule to
live by. I can appreciate that. Yeah, some guy at
the gas station, I don't even care if you get
my door, but he didn't. I was walking behind him
(37:02):
and you know, you always, whether you're male or female,
if someone's walking up right behind you, don't you kind
of hold the door open and make sure they're good?
He did not let fling clothes and I was like well,
okay then that was just so bizarre to me. I'm
sure different parts of the country. That's maybe could be
normal for you, but that is not normal for places
(37:23):
I've lived. Perplexed, but yeah, it's just like the simple
ways we can be courteous to people. It's just bizarre
to me. I was like, I don't know how he
did not see me, but I will give him grace.
Seven thing listed here. The high road is never the
wrong road. How do you feel about that as a therapist?
(37:43):
It's not necessarily wrong, but it's not necessarily always right. Okay,
but why would it be the right road to take
the low road? Well, I guess that. Do you mean
like being the bigger person? Yeah, it's like if you,
if I take the high road here, even though it
probably kills you to have to take the high road,
it's never the wrong road. Yeah, I guess I just
(38:04):
don't want that one to be right. Is why I'm
trying to find a way for it to. You're struggling
with this one, which I think is okay. Again, I
have no idea who where these rules to live by from,
so some of them might not be fair. It is fair.
It is fair. I would just say that one's hard
for you and for me too, honestly, because sometimes going
a little bit low makes us feel better for the moment. Well,
(38:27):
I'm just thinking like there's some decisions that I might
have to make coming up and like it might kill
me to just be the bigger person in some of
these areas. And won't kill me, but it feels emotionally
like that. So maybe I need to make Um, my
decision out of principle and not my emisions. Okay, continue, okay,
rules to live. I already resonating with cats and number eight.
Don't have big deals, regardless of how much my ego
(38:49):
wants me to believe things are a big deal. I
think it's okay to have like big deals, but I
think this isn't talking about like doing the witch tall thing.
That's a big deal. I think I'm allowed to be
excited about that and that is a big deal. I
don't think that that's what it means by big deals here.
I think it's more on not big life events that
are happening, but big deals like if you get all
(39:12):
blown up and in a huffy about something, it's huffier word.
If you and huff and Huff huff about something that's
not you're like making it a big deal, like the
guy not holding door for you. Yeah, I mean, honestly,
I haven't really thought about that sense until it came
up with the courteous thing, but I don't know if
it's like that's where you don't have big deals, regardless
(39:33):
of how much of my ego, because some things your
ego makes it bigger and then that's that's where you
get into trouble. I think that reminds me of one
of if you've ever read the four agreements that book,
and one of the four agreements is don't take things personally.
It feels like the same, like the longest live degree,
which is so that I don't agree with everything about
the four agreements. It is a helpful book, but so
(39:56):
many of the four, maybe maybe all of them, some
all the stuff that it's in there. But I will
say if you try to read that book and you're
not ready for it, it's not going to be. You
have to be ready for that book, because I tried
to read it at one point when I wasn't and
I was like this is but I don't, I'm not
into this, but then later I was and I could
receive it better. So that's a good but I think
(40:18):
that don't take things personally. Has Been Very helpful just
to have that in the back of my mind. For
myself and for a lot of people I work with.
It's a game changer. Not Everything's about. I think that's yeah,
what the big the big deal is? It's not big
like you're having a baby. Big Deals. You got a job, promotion,
big deal like. That's not what the big deals is
talking about. I think you're right. It's what where did
(40:39):
you use taking things personally, like making things bigger than
they are, and that's the EGO. Okay, nine, leave policing
and judging to those paid to do so. WHO. So
I was watching something on instagram that Suzanne's, to be all,
posted about one of the any of your Graham's, I
(41:00):
can't remember, but she's she's an amazing expert. Have you
interviewed her before? No, but I've read some of her
work and I think she's amazing. Oh, she is. So
she was talking about whatever instagram number, I don't know,
and it was this video she put up of her
speaking somewhere and she was judgment came up and she
said just so, y'all know, a gasp is judgment of
(41:22):
like if someone says something to you and you're like
or like that. Your response like that is ah, that
is judgment. I mean, I guess, depending on the conversation,
you might gasp, but there's a bug like that's not judgment.
But you know what, you know what kind of gas
I'm talking about. And I thought, Oh, and you might
think I'm not a judging person, but then start to
(41:45):
pay attention of how you react to certain things or
like what you know? What I really believe about judgment
is we all do it and sometimes it's just like
a natural thing, just like that, the gasp. It's important
to look at what my judgments are, but what's more
important to look at I inc because we can't just
automatically stop judging people. It's how we're wired. Is What
do we do with our judgments? Like where? Where do
(42:07):
our judgments lead us? Do they leads to the high
road or the the low road? So if you're somebody
who's like well, I I just it's automatic. REC okay,
we'll pay attention to the judgments and then pay attention
to how you use those. Yeah, alright, ten, you're already
okay and you're the one that doesn't know it rules
to live. Wait. So what's the source of this? So
(42:29):
you can tell us the source of what the rules
I told you. I don't know. They were texting to me,
but I don't know. Oh, they literally just sent you those.
It wasn't an article. I don't know where these came from.
His three rules. I just they were sent to me
and there was no context other than that it had
been passed down to them from someone else and they
were sharing with me. Okay, and then there's the bonus.
(42:52):
Like I said, figure out what your job is, what
their job is, what God's job is, and let everybody
do their job. Oh, boom, drop the MIC. I like it.
And that's the end of the episode, folks, and that'll
do it. To live by and that'll do it. I
hope y'all are having the week you need to have.
Normally we say that on the fifth thing. Sometimes, when
it's the end of the episode, have the day you
(43:14):
need to have. We said that on Tuesday and we'll
say it here again on Thursday for you and you
go into the weekend and you have the weekend you
need to have. And I got to use that for
someone on someone that we were texting about something and
they were bummed about a trip they're taking because something
didn't work out the way they thought it was going
to work out work wise, and I just said, well,
(43:35):
you're gonna have the trip you need to have, like
it'll work out and it'll end up being the trip
that you needed to have. So when I love that,
because it's not saying like we'll go have a good day,
because sometimes we're not in control of that, but we
sometimes just need to have it any day too. So
keep spreading that. Keep spreading that for sure. I'm also
looking at a sticker that Um cat has here that
(43:57):
says drink water and go to therapy as you're drinking
nice coffee. But there's water a nice coffee right. Good Reminder,
and that is from you need therapy podcast, so, which
is cats podcast, as you know from the third thing,
and you can check out that episode. You can follow
on instagram. You need therapy podcast is the handle. I'm
(44:17):
at Radio Amy and we would love to see you in.
So yeah, I mean just see if you can get there.
If you're in which tall you listen on the bowl
or whatever. We will be doing some ticket giveaways. If
you aren't able to purchase tickets for whatever reason, just
know that there might be a shot for you to
win some tickets if you would like that, and that
(44:39):
every purchase will come with the four things gift from
the shop forward and one country. And then, quickly, before
we wrap on the shop forward, I am still getting
D M s about the denim jacket that Mary put
up from the shop forward with the Shertbo because it's
so cute and it did sell out super quickly. But
Mary said they are working on getting more, but you've
got to sign up of the email list so you'll
(45:01):
get an email blast notification when the Oh you know what,
I don't know if I just said you can't even
get the tickets yet for the Wichita event. was I
acting like people can get them go on sale tomorrow?
They literally go on sale tomorrow. So I guess I
should just clarify that real quick. Select to see dot
com slash amy and then over the shot forward, if
(45:24):
you go to the shot forward, dot com slash fall,
that's where you'll see all the fall things and you
can scroll down to the Denham jacket. You Click on
that and that's where you'll see a link where you
can click to be notified by email when it's back
in stock. I had to do it with the Zara Pants,
the marine pants. I was trying to order them in
a different color and they were out in my size,
but they said Click here to be notified by email
when they're back in stock. And guess what, I got
(45:44):
an email and then I ordered the Zara Marine Pants,
which I'm obsessed with, and that's what will happen with
you in the Denham jacket. You Click on it and
then the shot forward will send you an email when
it's back in stock and you can be one of
the first to have a chance at ordering it, because
I just have a feeling there probably going to sell
it again. But if you go to the fall link
where the denim jacket is, that's where all the other
fall items are. Like Mary made a cute fall y'all
(46:08):
sweatshirt and there's pumpkin spice, there's the four things line
that supports project Meta share in Haiti and all the
fun things that you like about fall. There's some really
cute new more joy sweatshirts and t shirts that are
fall colors that will be perfect for fall that give
back to underprivileged youth in California and in the states
(46:28):
through youth centers of Orange. So yeah, all that, lots
of good things out there and we will see y'all.
I guess next Tuesday for a fifth thing, and then,
which a doll, we'll see y'all in person. No, remember fifth. Okay, bye, bye,
Okay, Little Food for you. So life. Oh it's pretty,
but it's pretty beautiful. Thanks. Beautiful laughs, a little moth
(00:29):
kicking with four happy Thursday, four things, fam fun surprise.
Cat is normally on the fifth thing, but she's on
four things today and it's an o g episode, like
first thing, the second thing, and right now we're inside
the first thing and cat and I are going to
talk about snacks. I feel like I'm always looking for
(00:49):
fun new things to eat, and so we're going to
share with you four things that we're obsessed with right
now and maybe it'll bring you joy. Maybe it'll bring
some joy to your pantry or two your refrigerator, which,
speaking of Pantries, I just have to shout out to
California Closets Nashville, because my pantry just got installed recently
and it is a dream. What do you mean by that?
(01:12):
Well Do. I've done endorsements with them on the bobby
bones show for a long time. This is not a
commercial by any means. I'm just like literally a fan
and shouting them out right now, but I do do
commercials locally on the big ninety eight, but not here
on the podcast, ever. But they did my pantry at
my old house and then I moved and I was
depressed because I just got it done and then someone
came and knocked on our door and offered to buy
(01:32):
our house cash. Basically, technically the real it or knocked,
but you know what I mean, and the knock was
a text, but it was like nobody knocked on your door.
It wasn't an actual I always imagine, when you told
me that, that somebody literally knocked on your door and
said Hey, I'd like to buy your house and you're like, okay,
let me get my stuff, because that's how it happened.
(01:55):
So we ended up moving and I was really sad.
And then when we went into our new house, I
had to do some spots with them and so it's
always good to have an experience when you're doing the spots.
So we decided to do the garage to help give
some organization to the garage. So we did that a
couple of years ago and then they were back and
wanted to do another area and I said let's do
the Pantry. So what do they do? Like the completely
(02:17):
gut it. I go to the design center, we pick
out everything, the type of you know, shelves, and drawers
that will fit my needs in my vibe and we
ended up putting this like magnetic whiteboard cabinet thing in
there and behind the cabinet is all the medicine, but
then on the white board, that's where we now it's
the family puts important things that you need to see,
or messages or instead of just papers being out on
(02:39):
the kitchen counter, they're now stuck to the board. So anyway,
I think we said joy to the pantry. It made
me think of how happy my pantry makes me right now,
and so I'm super grateful for that opportunity to do
that through work. It's very cool and I'm excited. Yeah, well,
I get your excitement of a pantry because I've never
(02:59):
had one in my adult life. My parents had one,
but I always had to put my food in like
a cabinet, like a dish cabinet, and like shove it
in there and it was always organized and I couldn't buy,
I couldn't have like just stuff on hand because I
know where to put it and when I moved. I
hope pantry and you can walk. Well, you can't really
walk in it, but you can like walk in it.
(03:20):
There's space for you to be in it and for
you to shut the door. Never had in my life.
I have stuff that's not food in my pantry because
it's so much room. I have all my appliances on
a shelf. I love it. It's like the things to
get excited about. And yes, I've lived in houses before
without a pantry and it is it's crazy. Try, but
you can get creative and you can find your space
and cabinets and you just figure it out and make
(03:42):
it work. But I also didn't have in that House
that you don't realize you really need until you don't
have it. A garbage disposal. Yeah, those are Nice. I
feel like a new person because now you have one. Yes,
I know it's fun. I'm like, let me flip the switch. Likes.
You don't realize you're going to enjoy so much like
as an adults until it breaks, when your garbage disposed
(04:04):
to breaks. But Your Dad's a building. Yeah, you can
call Your Dad, but that is always a bummer when
things like that happen. Okay, so let's get onto the
fun park. We'll to each you to to equal four
foods that people need to try or have. So I'll
start with the first thing being the Dang little crispy
rice cake chip thingies. They're just called Dang saying. That's
(04:28):
what they're called. D A N ging, the ones that
I tried where they're Sarracha spice. They're called sticky rice
chips by Dang foods and they're very good and I
don't really like Saracha that much, but I liked these.
When I ate it I was like, Dang, that's interesting
(04:53):
Um name. Yeah, okay, I'm actually looking them up. They
have so many flavors, because I wouldn't like the SARATA ones,
but they have a toasted sesame one and a coconut
crunch one. These look delicious. Yeah, Dang, Dang, Dang, that
so many flavors. Dang, Dang, Thai rice chips. They got
(05:14):
him on Amazon, WALMART DOT COM. I don't have to
leave your house to get these. Dang foods DOT COM.
So good. Oh and this probably isn't one of our things,
so I'll throw it in as a bonus one, but
Kat and I are both obsessed with Athletic Greens right
now as a way to get our Greens. I have
I say right now. I've always been a fan of
them and have used it for years, but you're new
to it. Yeah, well, I always wanted to try it
(05:36):
and I never actually did and then I got a
nice little package with it in there. And I will
say I'm a person who, like, really would love to
prefer to eat three meals that have all the things
I need and find it that way. But sometimes it
doesn't happen by the things you need, like nutrients. Sometimes
it just doesn't happen in vitamins and minerals, and so
it's very convenient. You know, it came with this little
(05:58):
water bottle that I think is just like sippy thing
in it, because you have to shake it and stir it. Well,
that is my tip for you if you're gonna try it.
But it is a way, especially when you're on the
go or you know you're not getting or traveling the
nutrients that your body requires and needs to feel its best.
And so, yeah, a little bonus. Athletic Greens are bonus
(06:21):
favorite snack, which is not really my favorite snack. It's
like a supplement, but it's a way and it should
not in any way supplement any food by any means,
but it's just a way of like hey, you know,
if you're not, if you're not going to be able
to get some Greens or different things in your body,
then we don't have to go without. Right. It's very good.
(06:41):
I will give a little tip that I added fresh
squeezed lemon juice and it tastes pretty good and I'm
gonna have to try that. So you put it in,
you shook it up and then you added some lemon juice. Okay,
it tastes just like a green juice now, which I
really like. Yeah, I did the Dang chips. What do
you got for a second thing? So I snacked them,
obsessed with right now. It's not one that anybody's really
(07:03):
gonna like. Oh, I've never heard of that. It's just
animal crackers. But okay, so I've always liked animal crackers.
But if you think about when you're younger, did you
like to get the animal crackers that came in the
Little Red Box? Yes, so, yes, me too, but as
an adult I actually like the kind that come in
(07:24):
the plastic bear at I find them a target. Well,
I must say I saw the plastic bear in your
pantry the other day and it did bring me joy. Yeah,
just seeing it's so cute, so cute, so cute, but
I didn't realize, like, because when you think of animal crackers,
I used to think, Oh, they're so plain, that wouldn't
be they're so good, so good, and it makes you
feel like a kid again. However, you have to get
(07:46):
them in the plastic bear. You can't just get like
animal crackers in the box, which I bet you could order.
Make sure if you can't find the plastic beer your
grocery store, you probably just order it on. I gotta
say I want to add the plastic beer to my
pantry because it'll look really cute and you can reuse
the plastic bear and put other things in it and
you're good, especially if you have kids and like different supplies. And,
(08:07):
oh my gosh, she could really D I y that
plastic bear into something for a child's room. Maybe make
it a lamp. I don't make a plastic I don't know.
I just pictured me. I was thinking like you put
blocks in it or something, but that kind of storage container. Yeah,
that's probably a better idea. I have no idea how
to turn it into a lamp. Okay, third thing I
(08:30):
would like to talk about sour cream. That's not a snack.
Isn't like you can't just eat sour cream, can't you?
But you can dip. I bet that would be amazing.
I'm more bringing the sour cream in as like maybe
a condiment you need to add to your fridge. Now,
(08:51):
some people sour cream makes some want a gag, though,
so I probably should come up with something else. I
just thought. Sour cream is in my fridge right now
because I made my daughter that Buffalo Chicken dip. Yes,
so it's got cream, cheese, sour cream, cheddar cheese, bacon,
shredded chicken and a packet of ranch seasoning and then
(09:14):
some buffalo sauce and you mix that and you bake
it in the oven and it is I mean pre
cook the chicken and the Bacon before you put it
in there, but it is so good. But we had
leftover sour cream from that and I don't always buy
sour cream because I forget. But I know I've talked
about sour cream before, so I know that I love it,
but I don't talk about it multiple right, but I
(09:36):
don't always have it in my fridge and I realized
why do not? Why do I not keep this as
a staple? This is so good. I put it on
my Tacos, I put it in my bowls chicken Sausa, yes,
my chicken SAUCA bowls. That's probably when we've talked about
sour cream. It's like you need to have it, but
also in recovery for my eating disorder. I know that
I've mentioned sour cream is something that I didn't allow
myself to have and then now, in recovery, absolutely allow
(09:59):
myself to have it if I go to chipotle or whoever.
But I was reminded this week to keep it stocked,
like keep that on my grocery list and get it
or get the big top from Costco, now that I'm
a costco member. What you really are? Actually I'm going
there today to get a mattress topper and some gas,
because they have cheap gas. Yes, so I'm just a fan,
(10:20):
staying out different ways to use sour cream. I stand
sour cream. Yes, if the sour cream council was to
hire me as an ambassador, you should have an advert.
What's the sour cream brand? I did land a lakes. Well,
if you're listening out there, Sur cream reps. yeah, sour
cream council. Maybe it is part of the dairy council. Maybe.
(10:43):
So you know, there could be something okay, but can
we scream from the rooftops without being an ambassador? But
I just think it's so good. But it's more so
just me screaming from the rooftops to eat things that
bring you happiness and don't cut them out of your
life because someone tells you you shouldn't have dairy. Some
people cannot have dairy and that is a fact. But
(11:05):
I had convinced myself somehow that I can't have dairy,
but my body metabolizes dairy just fine, so bring it wait.
I really appreciate that you love Sur cream so much
and I think you should offer one extra snack, just
because scream is not actually a snack. Okay, I'm just
(11:25):
gonna be there and you think back for holding me accountable.
So my second thing that I'm obsessed with right now
are the outshine fruit pop schools. I don't know if
you know specifically the peach, but I feel as though
we're getting into fall and then popsicles like the last
(11:46):
thing on my brain. But you eat ice cream all
throughout the year, don't you? That's cold, like I think
that's is it the fact that it's cold that you
think you don't want it. Okay, yeah, good point. You Win.
I'm wanting. Yeah, thank you, but actually maybe I don't
know what's going to happen, but I'm pretty sure I'm
gonna keep eating these. The peach one in the strawberry
one is actually also very good and there's like real
(12:08):
chunks of frozen strawberries in there. They're so good and
I've been eating one every single day and I have
to tell a little story. It kind of goes along
with the sour cream. I went to target to get
the animal crackers. I specifically went to target for the
animal crackers and I was doing a little shopping and
just like walking around target. I went to the frozen
section and target to get more popsicles as well, because
(12:29):
I didn't want around up those because that would be
really bad. And right next to the pop schools was
I'm not going to say the brand name, but it was,
and there's also like a lot of these, I think,
different brands, was this low calorie protein ice cream. Of those.
So these things like market. It like you couldn't eat
the whole pint and it's low calorie in high protein,
(12:52):
and I used to eat that all of the time
and I was convinced that I really like loved it too,
like it was one something that would look forward to eating,
and I would also eat the whole pint, because that's
what the point of it was. was like you could
eat all this and quotes ice cream, but it was
low calorie. So I was like, Oh, I remember that
being good. That was my thought in my head of
(13:12):
there's these two flavors. My favorite ice creams are birthday
cake and cookies and cream always, no matter what kind
of ice cream it is. So they had them, so
I bought them and instead of having my popsicle after
dinner the other night, I was like Oh, Big p Patrick,
my boyfriend, I was like I got this ice cream stuff,
we should have it, and he was like okay, because
(13:32):
he just will eat whatever. And I took one bite
of it and I like gagged, like it was like
not good at all. I feel like that's happened to
me multiple times since being in recovery and things that
I used to think tasted really good zero desire for them,
and how I used to eat so much of it,
I don't know, but really I think it was just
(13:53):
a mental thing I was convince yourself. It's brainwashing. You
brainwashed yourself. Yeah, because I wanted to believe that this
tasted good, but actually didn't. And no shame if anybody
eats that and actually does taste good to you and
it's you haven't brainwashed yourself because that. I don't want
to anybody to feel shamed, like Oh, I actually do
like that ice cream and you enjoyed some last night. Great,
(14:15):
that's awesome. It's just in our personal experience with it.
And so Patrick, but Patrick liked it, like I said that,
which speaks to your point. Like Pat I was like,
oh my gosh, was just so bad, and Patrick was like,
I kind of like it. So he ate a good
amount of it, but then I was like, I don't
want that, I want this popsicle. So then I had
a popsicool perfect. So your recommendation is to put stuff
(14:39):
in your freezer that you actually really like, because the
popsicles bring you and tell you. When I open up
my freezer and I see the different flavors of pop
schools that I can choose from for the day, I
definitely feel joy. Yeah, okay, I found mine, okay, and
it is from Sieta, which is one of my favorite companies.
Like I love Sieta as a whole. They've come on
the podcast before their mission and they're awesome. But if
(15:00):
you tried their truro strips, you brought those to my office,
or those just their chips? I think that was just
their chips. No, I don't think the true ones are
the cinnamon. Oh I have had those. They're so good.
They are so good and Siete has expanded. Years ago
it was hard to find them, but now I feel
like they're in most everywhere stores and they're everywhere. And
(15:21):
I was about to say something about them that I
got an email from them that they're working on something exciting,
but I don't know if it's public news yet. Well,
I don't know because they wanted to send something to me,
but just know that Sianta is working on something that's
going to be very, very cool. And then, speaking of
surprises too, I also just signed a contract on something
that is I'm gonna get to announce later this fall.
(15:42):
That was you know how contracts sometimes are really long
and you're like, I should have probably read every line.
Did you read this? But I didn't read every line.
I read most of them and then I just trusted.
I don't recommend. You're going to tell what I will.
Can't right now, but I signed it. Yeah, you know,
you probably you know, but it's okay. We don't need
(16:04):
to take people on it. I'm just saying I have
something inside things coming up because is working on something cool.
I probably can say it. It It probably is fellacknowledged, but
I don't want to get in trouble. And then my
thing I will be able to say soon, and it's
not the live which toll event. We've already announced that.
It's something different. It'll be on TV and it's not
(16:26):
the Christmas movie something. Okay, so we have that. We
should be Super Fun. Well, and then I'll just say
in the next thing, cat and I are going to
be talking about the live podcast and why the topics
are the way that they are, like the questions that
are gonna be asked, the four questions of the night,
(16:46):
the themes. Why was it curated that way and why
was it important for me to have it flow the
way that it is? And so we'll talk about that next.
But we do have one other snack to get into.
The final and fourth from you, or did we already do,
for I already did my two. Oh, did we did?
I'm like, dig it, that is my cast. Okay, well,
(17:08):
let's recap. Okay, so I had Dang Oh, and then
you had anna crackers, and then I said sour cream.
You said that didn't count, so that's when you shared popsicles,
and then I came back with St Churo Strips. That's
because we're and then we gave a bonus because of
the Athletic Greens, which is not a snap. That's really
(17:29):
six because, yeah, we shared the buffalo situation, which it's
football season, so you've got to make that if I
was going to any football parties, which I'm not, do
you want to go to one? No, that's what I'm saying.
I watched, I watched my sun play football every Saturday now,
and that's when I'm into football. I will say, enjoy
football a lot more now that he's playing and I'm
(17:51):
a football mom. But if I was invited somewhere I
needed to bring a dish, I would take this buffalo
chicken everybody likes because it's a out pleaser, and then
I would serve it with Tortillas, chips, whatever kind of
tortillas you like. I think you can serve it with
crackers if you want. Oh, I bet a ritz cracker
would probably real good with that, O g Ritz cracker.
(18:14):
So good. Okay. So there you go. I'm sure we've
made you hungry with this thing, so we will move on.
So for me, cat, I have been wrestling with am
(18:37):
I living? Am I living my life? What does that
even look like to really live my best life? And
I would say that I've been more so in survival
mode and that I guess. And I'm still alive, so
I'm living, working, but I wanted to unpack that a
(18:59):
little bit more and that's why I feel like that's
why it's the first thing that we'll talk about at
the live podcast event. So the four things, you know,
if they were to be on a four things tote,
it might say something like live life, get unstuck, make
a move, show up. If the event which was on
a Tote, which is an event that feels like I
(19:20):
want to go to, you will be there. Yeah, okay, good,
you have to go there. So I learned from Ali Falon,
who helped me curate is there's, you know, when you're
working through something like an event, with people or even
if you're writing a book, because that's what she does,
and while I'm not writing a book, but it was
sort of like writing an evening and it was like
(19:42):
there's a problem, there's a journey, there's a resolution and
then there's like questions you can ask yourself, and so
we kind of use that as the template for it
and I will say with each section we're going to
have music recommendations to go along with each thing, because
I feel as though music is therapeutic. There will be
(20:03):
book recommendations for each thing as well, so that way
you're not just left hanging at the end of the
night when we go through some of these, you have
some resources to use to start this journey, if you will.
You're taking people on a journey that you are on
and want to continue to go on. Ye, you're inviting
them into that and I would say, like big pictures,
(20:26):
that we're doing it as a community, like that's what
it's all about, like even taking this show on the
road or showing up to this podcast every week, even
though it's not on the road, it's about community and
knowing that we're not alone in all the different things
in life, but getting out there together and being able
to see faces. It's going to be really cool. And
(20:47):
then for those of you that aren't going to be
able to go to which at all, like listening back
to the episodes, you'll be a part of the community.
You'll be a part of it and you'll be listening
to people. You're fell listeners, asking questions and diving into
some of this. And so, yeah, we'll be sharing stories.
There's some video components that are going to be played
(21:09):
that people will get to see, which will just be
audio for the podcast. But yeah, live life, get unstuck,
make a move and show up. And ending with the
show up was intentional because it was how how do
you want to be remembered? How do you want to
show up in the world? What do you want that
to look like like? Let's say you are living your life.
Are you want to live a more full life, but
(21:32):
you're stuck. So that's why the second thing is get unstuck.
What is holding you down? And I've got some personal
things that will be walking through and sharing. You know,
and in the first thing a second ago, we're talking
about we both have a history with eating disorders. Like
I was very stuck in that and I had to
choose to get unstuck. And you know what, as you're talking,
I'm thinking because I recently asked somebody a very simple
(21:54):
question on you need therapy, my podcast, and it was
how do you want to be introduced, like if you
could introduce yourself, like what do you want people to
know about you before they hear you speak? And she
took a second to answer it and to me I
was like I'm asking a really simple question, like how
do you what do you want people to know about you?
(22:14):
And usually people give this like laundry list of like
I did this, and I'm this and I won this
award and this is my job. She has a long
resume of things that she has accomplished, like super, super
out of control accomplished person, and she gave such a
good answer. Had nothing to do with any of that.
And as you were speaking, I was thinking about that
(22:36):
because I don't think that that's actually has comma of
a question that we really think about it, like how
do I want to be remembered? What do I want
people to know about me, which speaks to how am
I living my life, and this whole night in the
conversations around it, and that will come from it. I
think it's going to actually have an impact way bigger
than like one night or one podcast, because people are
(22:57):
going to be leaving continuously thinking about those questions and
then asking other people those questions right in your in
your different every this is a community. But then you
have your own communities and you could take it to
friend groups, Girls Nights, family members, significant other and yeah,
continue to kids. That's a good like even asking that
(23:19):
like question of what do you want people to know
about you before they listen to you? Like finding your
own way to ask that question to your friends. I
want to do that just from asking that person in
my podcast that question. I want to continue to ask
my friends. But what do you want people to really
know about you? And so this whole night is going
to really get a lot of those questions. I think
writing the People's brains, which Ali is great with writing prompts,
(23:40):
and so that's another takeaway from each section is you'll
leave not just with the music and the book recommendation
and the questions, but also writing prompts so that you
can go journals about each thing and unpack this yourself.
It's not anything that's going to get unpacked in one
night by any means all whatsoever. So it's ongoing thing,
(24:02):
but I'm excited even in the unstuck thing. I've got
a little note from Walker Hayes on that and he
has been sober now for I think seven years. So
maybe it's alcohol for you or insert whatever it is
that is keeping you stuck. So hopefully that'll be a
(24:22):
good little section for you to work through. And then,
once you are unstuck, how do you make that move?
What are things that you can do? What does dreaming
look like for you in that section, because some people
don't even want to dream, and my sister and I
were unpacking that. I hope my sister gets to come.
I don't know yet if she will, but she will
definitely be in on that section for sure if she's
(24:45):
able to come. And then, yeah, it'll just be an
evening of, hopefully a lot of different emotions for everyone.
It might hit him a little bit different, I don't know.
For some people there. I don't know what questions are
going to be asked by the audience. So that's the
cool part to unknown, keeping you on your toes. You're
the expert, I feel like. If someone asks like some
(25:06):
super serious question and be like, and now I defer
to my expert, Captain Fata. Thank you for coming, but
other friends of mine that show up, I, you know,
would like for them to be involved. Like it's just
it's also gonna be laid back. Can I just be
like randomly like hey, you come out to this stage,
I want you to talk about this or whatever the
(25:26):
case will be. So it'll be a good time and
we look forward to seeing y'all there. And it's November five,
it's a Saturday night. And then it's exciting because tickets
go on sale tomorrow. Well, if you're listening to this
on Thursday, they go on sale tomorrow, which is Friday September,
and the website link to get there is select a
(25:48):
seat dot com, slash amy. Or if that's hard for
you to remember, I will have a graphic up at
radio AMY DOT com. But tomorrow is a big day. Alright, cat,
you're going to kind of lead this thing because I
would love for you to share the episode that went
up on your podcast this week. You need therapy, because
(26:10):
I feel as though it's a conversation that a lot
of people would enjoy listening to, and I will say
that Houston, who edits and produces my podcast and also yours.
I know he sent you a note that said, okay, this,
this is the best of one of my all time
favorites that you've done, and he just did that to
me a few weeks ago with my tim sure episode,
and he does not throw those out all the time.
(26:33):
So you know it's a good episode when Houston is
having to listen to it over and over while he's
producing it and putting it together. So yeah, tell us
about it. So excited about this episode because, to give
a little backstory, I feel like, I know you felt
like this at times the last probably couple months, I've
(26:54):
been feeling like, oh, I feel like I am redundant
and what I'm talking about, I feel like I'm not
adding any thing to conversations and I was just feeling
a little bit uninspired also about stuff that I was
putting out and talking about it. And it started feeling
more because a lot of him the podcast doesn't feel
like work. To me, it just feels like like fun,
like a really fun part of my job. Um, and
(27:14):
it started to feel more worky. And so part of it,
I think, had to do with this idea that I
think there's so much content around mental health that is
starting to turn in a way that makes it, the
content not so helpful, and I've talked about this on
UNI therapy a couple of times. I don't know that
(27:35):
I've ever talked about it here. And so I just
took a little break, just two weeks where I didn't
make new episodes and I ran some of the best
of episodes from the past, and then I had this
interview scheduled with this woman. Her name is Liz plank.
She is incredible. She's actually the person I was talking
about earlier about the question that I asked, and we
were going to talk about something very specific that she
(27:59):
does a lot of work on. And when she came
on to record with me, we just started talking and
you know, like there's some people that you don't know
that you'll end up having an interview with and you're like,
wait a second, I really like this person. Then it
doesn't feel like I'm like interviewing them at all. Had this,
but you never know when that's going to be. So
there's this like kind of anxiety around like is this
(28:20):
interview going to be hard or smoother? Am I going
to feel sometimes it's the opposite. I think it's going
to be easy and this person is going to be
so awesome and then, for whatever reason, and it might
be on me, but it ends up awkward and you're
like okay. So it didn't feel like that. I don't
know how it felt for her, but it felt like
it was a good conversation with both of us. We
never actually got to what we were supposed to talk about,
(28:41):
which is funny because I told her at the end,
because I had submitted my questions to her beforehand so
she could be prepared, and I was like, I'm so
sorry we didn't get to any of those things if
you had prepared them, and she was like, honestly, I
really do hate doing interviews. I like being she has
a podcast herself. She's a Co host of a podcast
called man enough, which is so good. But she said
(29:01):
I really like being the one that's interviewing. So this
was my favorite thing ever where I just get to
like have a conversation about things that just flow naturally,
and that's what it ended up being. But we talked
about this whole thing that I've been she actually brought
it up, this whole idea around like when is content
too much, like how do we know how to take
a break from that kind of content? Well, I'll even
(29:23):
say to even just in your own life, whatever you're
going through. I feel as though I have gotten to
points in the last two years and I've done so
much work that I've looked at my therapist and said,
I don't even know what's what I feel like I'm
supposed to know all this stuff because, well, I've been
taking it all in, but now I'm in overload exactly.
So that's what we talked about in and it was
(29:45):
really cool to see somebody who's like a mental health
advocate be like, I've actually been grappling with this too.
So we talked a lot about that and then we
talked about like how to have conversations with people who
like disagree with us, because there's a lot of that
in the air right now, just in the world, where
there's we have these strong differing opinions and instead of
coming together and really trying to understand the other person,
(30:06):
we're just like yelling at them, and so we talked
about that and how boundaries actually are things that were
responsible for, rather than like forcing other people to change it.
All in all, I will say, one of my favorite
conversations I've ever had in the past three years of
doing the podcast. Yeah, so if any of those things
have stuck out to you, I really recommend that you
go listen to it and I really recommend you follow
(30:29):
Liz and just went up on Monday right. It's brand new.
It's brand new and it's cool because I was actually
supposed to do this interview a month ago and I
got rescheduled and so then it got rescheduled for the
perfect timing of like I just went on this break
to clear my head and I'm like back with the Bang. Okay,
I remember when it canceled because you were so disappointed,
(30:49):
and now it's toking. We think of Donald Miller's thing
of what does make possible, and that cancelation made it
possible likely for you to have a better interview with
her because you were able to have that break and
it shifted how you handled the interview. Oh d because
I think that stuff that I was feeling around the
mental health overload, because I want you guys to hear that,
(31:10):
like I'm an advocate for like education and obviously I
put out content as a mental health professional, but I
hadn't done all the processing around that yet when that
original interview was so we wouldn't have talked about this
at all. I would have kept because I hadn't gone
through it myself. So you're right, yeah, you're right, but
I think whenever that got canceled, I said because I
(31:31):
think I texted you and I think you probably said, well,
like what does this make possible or what is surreparing
you for? donal well, and a lot of people have
said something along the lines of that in their own way.
But we always referenced Donald Miller because when he was
on the podcast we both needed to hear that, a
(31:51):
lot of people did, and he just said it in
such a time, the right time, the way he says
it is great and we just stick with it. But
I will say, like in what you're adding to to
how you're feeling with all the information, I think these
kinds of conversation are important because even if somebody is
a professional, you might not need to be listening to
me right now, and vice versa. Right about whatever professional
(32:14):
it is is like. Sometimes we have to know our
limits and we need to be really responsible about like
how many people were listening to about content, surrounding whatever
part of our lives. It can be anything, because there's
literally content. It's everywhere. There's fashion content, there's mom content,
there's how to balance your life content, there's mental health content,
(32:36):
there's physical health content, there's content. Oh my gosh, it's like, Oh,
there's a lot, and everybody, for the most part, for
the most part people that are putting this stuff out
are wanting to help people, right, but just because somebody
wants to help doesn't mean every content is for us.
Every piece of content. Okay, well, go check it out.
It's on you need therapy, which is cats podcast. She
(32:59):
puts up two episodes a week, which this one was
on Monday, and then on Wednesday you to couch talks,
which is kind of like our fifth thing, except for
I'm not on it. She has invited me to Co
host that yet. What would you like to answer the
questions that people send in? No, actually, we should do
like a amy brown takeover and you give your advice
and then see what it matches up agains. No, you're
(33:20):
the expert. I leave that up to you. But that
episode that I'm talking about, it's called are we going
through a mental health overload? With Liz plank, if you
want to listen to it. I got a text that
(33:45):
was sharing rules to live by and there's ten of them.
I have no idea really where it originated. Yeah, and
I just thought we would go over them. There's ten
and a bonus. We love bonus things like sour cream
and okay, rules to live by one avoid the need
(34:10):
to make others think I am right. MM HMM too.
Never give unsolicited advice. It's always received as criticism. Yeah,
I thought you looked at me like, oh, I know
where these rules are from. Which who? I mean? Who knows?
People listening? They'll be like, oh, yeah, that's from DA, Da, DA, Da. No,
I like that. I just like that because I think
(34:30):
that something that has been really helpful in my life is,
before I give my opinion, I will say like do
you want feedback? Are you looking for feedback, or do
you want me to listen? That, I feel like in
the Burnet Brown Atlas of the heart, the special on
Ho Max, and I'm sure you know it's just got
the book too. But what's standing out to me was
something that she said on the stage during that special.
(34:51):
was sometimes when someone's going through something, just asking them
what they need in that moment, because they might not
even need advice, so they might just want to sit
and stare at the wall or go to about something
completely different. Third thing listed here don't look for or
expect personal slights or criticism. If I'm looking for them,
I will find them in abundance. So that's sort of
(35:12):
like a just a way of thinking, which, yeah, I
have to say sometimes when I'm thinking more negatively, I
do notice more negative things and it's perpetuates. Next thing
is extend love, comfort and understanding rather than demand to
be loved, comforted and understood. So, similar like, you extend
(35:33):
it and you you don't have to demand it, but
you'll likely, hopefully receive it. Number Five, always act on principle,
not on thoughts, feelings or even good motives. What is that?
Always Act on principle, not on thought, because I feel
like sometimes if we act on our emotionings and our
emotions without really sitting with it for a while, like
(35:57):
what's really the right thing to do for us and
not be emotional response. But I think some of that
boils down to your emotional I Q. Oh, okay, I
was gonna say. That kind of makes me think of
that right, wrong and wise thing that you've talked about before. Yeah,
I learned that from my sister. Well, she hits a book.
I think it might be called right wrong. She read
(36:17):
it and yeah, but how mature are you in that
department to decipher when you're acting off, which I mean
I certainly have acted off emotions, and it's like okay,
how much time do I need to give it? Nothing's changed.
I started to say this must be principle. This is principle. Okay, six,
(36:39):
be unfailingly courteous, unfailing. Well, maybe this is a type
of it says be unfailing courteous, but maybe it's unfailingly unfailingly.
I think so. Just be courteous. That's a rule to
live by. I can appreciate that. Yeah, some guy at
the gas station, I don't even care if you get
my door, but he didn't. I was walking behind him
(37:02):
and you know, you always, whether you're male or female,
if someone's walking up right behind you, don't you kind
of hold the door open and make sure they're good?
He did not let fling clothes and I was like well,
okay then that was just so bizarre to me. I'm
sure different parts of the country. That's maybe could be
normal for you, but that is not normal for places
(37:23):
I've lived. Perplexed, but yeah, it's just like the simple
ways we can be courteous to people. It's just bizarre
to me. I was like, I don't know how he
did not see me, but I will give him grace.
Seven thing listed here. The high road is never the
wrong road. How do you feel about that as a therapist?
(37:43):
It's not necessarily wrong, but it's not necessarily always right. Okay,
but why would it be the right road to take
the low road? Well, I guess that. Do you mean
like being the bigger person? Yeah, it's like if you,
if I take the high road here, even though it
probably kills you to have to take the high road,
it's never the wrong road. Yeah, I guess I just
(38:04):
don't want that one to be right. Is why I'm
trying to find a way for it to. You're struggling
with this one, which I think is okay. Again, I
have no idea who where these rules to live by from,
so some of them might not be fair. It is fair.
It is fair. I would just say that one's hard
for you and for me too, honestly, because sometimes going
a little bit low makes us feel better for the moment. Well,
(38:27):
I'm just thinking like there's some decisions that I might
have to make coming up and like it might kill
me to just be the bigger person in some of
these areas. And won't kill me, but it feels emotionally
like that. So maybe I need to make Um, my
decision out of principle and not my emisions. Okay, continue, okay,
rules to live. I already resonating with cats and number eight.
Don't have big deals, regardless of how much my ego
(38:49):
wants me to believe things are a big deal. I
think it's okay to have like big deals, but I
think this isn't talking about like doing the witch tall thing.
That's a big deal. I think I'm allowed to be
excited about that and that is a big deal. I
don't think that that's what it means by big deals here.
I think it's more on not big life events that
are happening, but big deals like if you get all
(39:12):
blown up and in a huffy about something, it's huffier word.
If you and huff and Huff huff about something that's
not you're like making it a big deal, like the
guy not holding door for you. Yeah, I mean, honestly,
I haven't really thought about that sense until it came
up with the courteous thing, but I don't know if
it's like that's where you don't have big deals, regardless
(39:33):
of how much of my ego, because some things your
ego makes it bigger and then that's that's where you
get into trouble. I think that reminds me of one
of if you've ever read the four agreements that book,
and one of the four agreements is don't take things personally.
It feels like the same, like the longest live degree,
which is so that I don't agree with everything about
the four agreements. It is a helpful book, but so
(39:56):
many of the four, maybe maybe all of them, some
all the stuff that it's in there. But I will
say if you try to read that book and you're
not ready for it, it's not going to be. You
have to be ready for that book, because I tried
to read it at one point when I wasn't and
I was like this is but I don't, I'm not
into this, but then later I was and I could
receive it better. So that's a good but I think
(40:18):
that don't take things personally. Has Been Very helpful just
to have that in the back of my mind. For
myself and for a lot of people I work with.
It's a game changer. Not Everything's about. I think that's yeah,
what the big the big deal is? It's not big
like you're having a baby. Big Deals. You got a job, promotion,
big deal like. That's not what the big deals is
talking about. I think you're right. It's what where did
(40:39):
you use taking things personally, like making things bigger than
they are, and that's the EGO. Okay, nine, leave policing
and judging to those paid to do so. WHO. So
I was watching something on instagram that Suzanne's, to be all,
posted about one of the any of your Graham's, I
(41:00):
can't remember, but she's she's an amazing expert. Have you
interviewed her before? No, but I've read some of her
work and I think she's amazing. Oh, she is. So
she was talking about whatever instagram number, I don't know,
and it was this video she put up of her
speaking somewhere and she was judgment came up and she
said just so, y'all know, a gasp is judgment of
(41:22):
like if someone says something to you and you're like
or like that. Your response like that is ah, that
is judgment. I mean, I guess, depending on the conversation,
you might gasp, but there's a bug like that's not judgment.
But you know what, you know what kind of gas
I'm talking about. And I thought, Oh, and you might
think I'm not a judging person, but then start to
(41:45):
pay attention of how you react to certain things or
like what you know? What I really believe about judgment
is we all do it and sometimes it's just like
a natural thing, just like that, the gasp. It's important
to look at what my judgments are, but what's more
important to look at I inc because we can't just
automatically stop judging people. It's how we're wired. Is What
do we do with our judgments? Like where? Where do
(42:07):
our judgments lead us? Do they leads to the high
road or the the low road? So if you're somebody
who's like well, I I just it's automatic. REC okay,
we'll pay attention to the judgments and then pay attention
to how you use those. Yeah, alright, ten, you're already
okay and you're the one that doesn't know it rules
to live. Wait. So what's the source of this? So
(42:29):
you can tell us the source of what the rules
I told you. I don't know. They were texting to me,
but I don't know. Oh, they literally just sent you those.
It wasn't an article. I don't know where these came from.
His three rules. I just they were sent to me
and there was no context other than that it had
been passed down to them from someone else and they
were sharing with me. Okay, and then there's the bonus.
(42:52):
Like I said, figure out what your job is, what
their job is, what God's job is, and let everybody
do their job. Oh, boom, drop the MIC. I like it.
And that's the end of the episode, folks, and that'll
do it. To live by and that'll do it. I
hope y'all are having the week you need to have.
Normally we say that on the fifth thing. Sometimes, when
it's the end of the episode, have the day you
(43:14):
need to have. We said that on Tuesday and we'll
say it here again on Thursday for you and you
go into the weekend and you have the weekend you
need to have. And I got to use that for
someone on someone that we were texting about something and
they were bummed about a trip they're taking because something
didn't work out the way they thought it was going
to work out work wise, and I just said, well,
(43:35):
you're gonna have the trip you need to have, like
it'll work out and it'll end up being the trip
that you needed to have. So when I love that,
because it's not saying like we'll go have a good day,
because sometimes we're not in control of that, but we
sometimes just need to have it any day too. So
keep spreading that. Keep spreading that for sure. I'm also
looking at a sticker that Um cat has here that
(43:57):
says drink water and go to therapy as you're drinking
nice coffee. But there's water a nice coffee right. Good Reminder,
and that is from you need therapy podcast, so, which
is cats podcast, as you know from the third thing,
and you can check out that episode. You can follow
on instagram. You need therapy podcast is the handle. I'm
(44:17):
at Radio Amy and we would love to see you in.
So yeah, I mean just see if you can get there.
If you're in which tall you listen on the bowl
or whatever. We will be doing some ticket giveaways. If
you aren't able to purchase tickets for whatever reason, just
know that there might be a shot for you to
win some tickets if you would like that, and that
(44:39):
every purchase will come with the four things gift from
the shop forward and one country. And then, quickly, before
we wrap on the shop forward, I am still getting
D M s about the denim jacket that Mary put
up from the shop forward with the Shertbo because it's
so cute and it did sell out super quickly. But
Mary said they are working on getting more, but you've
got to sign up of the email list so you'll
(45:01):
get an email blast notification when the Oh you know what,
I don't know if I just said you can't even
get the tickets yet for the Wichita event. was I
acting like people can get them go on sale tomorrow?
They literally go on sale tomorrow. So I guess I
should just clarify that real quick. Select to see dot
com slash amy and then over the shot forward, if
(45:24):
you go to the shot forward, dot com slash fall,
that's where you'll see all the fall things and you
can scroll down to the Denham jacket. You Click on
that and that's where you'll see a link where you
can click to be notified by email when it's back
in stock. I had to do it with the Zara Pants,
the marine pants. I was trying to order them in
a different color and they were out in my size,
but they said Click here to be notified by email
when they're back in stock. And guess what, I got
(45:44):
an email and then I ordered the Zara Marine Pants,
which I'm obsessed with, and that's what will happen with
you in the Denham jacket. You Click on it and
then the shot forward will send you an email when
it's back in stock and you can be one of
the first to have a chance at ordering it, because
I just have a feeling there probably going to sell
it again. But if you go to the fall link
where the denim jacket is, that's where all the other
fall items are. Like Mary made a cute fall y'all
(46:08):
sweatshirt and there's pumpkin spice, there's the four things line
that supports project Meta share in Haiti and all the
fun things that you like about fall. There's some really
cute new more joy sweatshirts and t shirts that are
fall colors that will be perfect for fall that give
back to underprivileged youth in California and in the states
(46:28):
through youth centers of Orange. So yeah, all that, lots
of good things out there and we will see y'all.
I guess next Tuesday for a fifth thing, and then,
which a doll, we'll see y'all in person. No, remember fifth. Okay, bye, bye,
Feeling Things with Amy & Kat News
Host
Amy Brown
Popular Podcasts
United States of Kennedy
United States of Kennedy is a podcast about our cultural fascination with the Kennedy dynasty. Every week, hosts Lyra Smith and George Civeris go into one aspect of the Kennedy story.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com