September 4, 2025 • 13 mins
Amy and Kat respond to a listener who feels overwhelmed by supporting a family member going through a messy divorce. How do you show up for someone in pain when you don’t have the full story...and when their constant need for support starts draining you? Amy and Kat unpack ways to balance compassion with boundaries, protect your own peace, and still be there for the people you love.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down. If you ever have feelings
that you just won't Amy and Cat gotcha, covin like likeing, No, brother,
ladies and folks, do you just follow an the spirit
where it's all us phone and real stuff, tell the
chill stuff and the m but Swayne, sometimes the best.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Thing you can do it just stop to feel things.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. Happy Tuesday,
Welcome to Couch Talks, our Q and a episode for
a Feeling Things podcast. I'm Amy and I'm Kat.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And quick disclaimer before we get into today's question that
although we're answering your questions and I am a therapist,
that this podcast does not serve as a replacement or
substitute for actual therapy. But we hope it helps you
or at least entertains you.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Our email today is anonymous. They would like to stay anonymous.
They made that clear at the end of the email.
You said, very like serious, They made that clear at
the end. Well, yeah, they said I would like to
stay anonymous, which is very clear, very clear. Going to
be clear, Hi, Amy and Kat. I've listened a four
(01:12):
things since the pandemic days and have enjoyed listening to
you and Kat throughout the years. I'm wanting advice on
supporting a close family member who is going through a
very messy and stressful divorce. In my opinion, the relationship
was toxic and I think there is fault on both sides. However,
my family member is really struggling and leaning on me
for a lot of support. I want to be there
(01:34):
for this person. However, I feel like I'm not getting
the full story and I find it hard to help
when I'm not getting the complete picture. They also want
to call me almost every day to talk for at
least an hour, and to be honest, it's a lot.
I know that they are stressed, but it is putting
a lot of stress on me as well because I
feel like I'm having to be on call for them
(01:54):
to dump their feelings onto Any advice on how to
support a family member going through a hard time I'm
while also protecting my own peace. Sorry for the novel. Also,
I would like to stay anonymous. I love you girls
and appreciate all the hard work you do to put
out content, which that is nice. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well. And this is you know what came to me
as I was listening to this. You read it again,
what is she afraid of? Well, well, you cannot.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Being there for I mean, I no, I cannot. I'm
not her.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I'm asking this to her, Like, what are you afraid of?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, I was thinking she might be afraid of letting
this person down, like she obviously is afraid of, like
not being there's a person.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, what will happen if you don't answer the phone?
What will happen if you aren't available?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
What's going to happen? And two things are coming up
for me? And again this is not therapy, so I
can't really know because I'm not sitting here with you.
But when that happens, a lot of times we think,
well if we don't do it, nobody will. That's one thought.
Another thought that is very subconscious. And I don't think
people really like hearing this either, So I'm gonna try
to say it like lightly and kindly. Sometimes we create
(03:03):
this chaos for ourselves because it actually feels good to
be that needed.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yes, and that is true. I can relate to that.
I can really on both sides. I think of being
the person that might be calling a lot, having gone
through a divorce or gone through different things. Now I
don't know that it was every day for an hour,
But I do know when you're going through something difficult,
sometimes you get into a comfortable pattern of relying on
(03:28):
people and just dumping it and maybe wanting to talk
so that then you can get some sort of validation
and hear that like you're right or you're making the
right decision.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
And if you're calling the same person over and over
again and that person's answering the phone and being really kind,
it's that whole training people how to treat you. That
person that's calling you doesn't know that you feel stressed
about this, doesn't know that you're overwhelmed, doesn't know because
you keep giving them, so they don't have the evidence
to be like, oh, no, I'm overstepping my boundaries.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And they're also in the middle of a major life
event yeah, and chaos and likely in survival mode of sorts,
so they may not have the awareness to know like,
I'm way overstepping some boundaries here and being disrespectful, because
sometimes we can get so caught up in our own
(04:18):
thing that's going on, and divorce is a huge thing,
Like it's huge, like it destroys people and can really
wreck you emotionally, if you're not doing the work, and yeah,
I think that they've gotten into a really unhealthy pattern
with you, and so now you have to be the
pattern breaker, which is not fun because also you might
(04:40):
be getting something from it a little bit, but now
you're getting exhausted, so you're kind of over it and
you're like, oh, at first, maybe this is good, and
I think, well, I'll say my layman's piece, and then
you can give more professional which you already have been doing.
But I think first and foremost just acknowledging their pain
(05:01):
and wanting to be there to support them, which you
have done. But you can verbally do that and then
start to set almost like appointments to talk of like, hey,
I know that you are hurting and going through a
difficult time, and also I want to be here for you,
So let's talk on Thursday at like three if you
(05:22):
can talk. I have a really busy week this week.
I don't even know that it has to be which
you might disagree with me, Kap, but I don't know
that it has to be a conversation of like I
can't talk to you this much, or you're really overstepping,
Like it almost could be that you just implement these
boundaries and it's sort of in a you know, nonchalant
but respectful to yourself kind of way, and to her
(05:43):
it's respectful to her too, And then it doesn't cause
any unnecessary drama or she doesn't feel embarrassed or shame
for calling you all the time. But again, we don't
know this person and their exact personality and the whole situation.
But I think just setting clear limits for yourself and
then if she doesn't respect that, then you can get
(06:05):
a little more firm if you're direct, that's a better word.
Firm feels more like parenting, but direct feels more like
a peer family member. You can get a little bit
more direct, but it's like it's what do you think about?
Like the indirect of like, hey, just you know this
coming week, I know we've been talking a lot and
I would love to be able to support you. I'm
(06:25):
gonna be very.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
You don't even have to say that much.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Keep it simple, like keep it simple, stupid, keep it simple?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
What is that from k kiss?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Like it's a way.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I think my little brother said that to me the
other day because I was asking a lot of questions
about something and he just yeah, I think he said, Okay,
so that's a thing. I thought you were calling me
stupid for a second. We're calling yourself stupid. So we're
kind of making this up into something maybe bigger than
it needs to be. It can be as simple as
hey can't talk right now, I'm free Thursday at three,
(06:58):
would love to catch would love to be there for you?
Or hey, I really want to be there for you.
I can't talk right now Thursday at three? Does that
work as simple as that? And what I also I
want to say as we're talking about this, these kinds
of things are really really hard to answer and give
you really clear feedback because there might be so much
(07:20):
inside of this. I was thinking, like this listener might
have grown up being taught that she has to serve
or be there, or she's not allowed to show up
for herself. There might be a lot of beliefs that
are gonna be harder to unwind than just listening to
us be like do this. And so I've said this
before and I'll probably continue to say it again, like
(07:41):
looking at what's the thing underneath a thing? That's why
I said, like what is she afraid of? Like what
is the fear here that you're not being a good person,
that somebody's going to be mad at you, that you're
not upholding your duties as a whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Fan.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I don't know what family member this is, if you're
a sister, a cousin or what have you, and in law?
So what is the thing underneath the thing you're overwhelmed? Well,
what's underneath that you're afraid if you speak up for yourself?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
What?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Or you feel sad because of what? Like, what is
really underneath that? And that might be a separate you
might want to do some work around that, and then
this setting the boundary is just like a symptom of
that thing.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You know. What stood out to me too that I
wanted to get your thoughts on. She said, I feel
like I'm not getting the full story, and I find
it hard to help when I'm not getting the complete picture. Yeah,
which is also frustrating.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But what is the value that.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Has to have the whole picture? The whole picture and
to help? I don't know. It's probably annoying if you
feel like you're only getting bits and pieces and she's
talking to you so much or he's talking to you
so much, and then you're like, I can't help you
if you're not going to be well truthful or open
and honest about the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, you can kind of sense sometimes, well I can
say that's a therapist that you can sense sometimes when
people are leaving specific things out and then you feel
kind of in this weird in between and I want
to help you, but I feel like I'm just kind
of placating you because I don't really know the whole story, gotcha.
So that kind of feels icky on the inside because
I don't want to be your yes man. But also
(09:11):
from what I am hearing, you're not doing anything wrong,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see what you're setting. And so
that could be it, which goes back to the like
wanting to call the time to have validation. Yeah, like
maybe they're just calling to be like to maybe hear
that they're not doing anything wrong or they're the good person.
That's not a fun place to be at all.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
But I always say it doesn't have to be a
come to Jesus meeting. When you set a boundary, you
can set it and nobody even has to know that
you're setting it, Like you saying, hey, I'm busy, let's
talk Thursday.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, I had the idea to do that, but then
I was going to explain a little more, and then
you drew back, and I'm like, good, keep it simple,
that is right, Like it is best to keep it simple. Yeah,
you don't have to give an explanation for everything. But
I've had to do a lot of growth in that
area over explaining.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, you've gotten so much better.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
But give yourself grace because if I'm used to doing that,
you keeping it simple right now is going to be
really hard for you. So acknowledge that, Like I'm doing
something and it's going to be hard, and I don't
have to tell myself, Oh, just get over it and just
do it. Suck it up. Acknowledge that it's hard to
keep right now. It's hard to keep things simple right now.
It's hard to hold this boundary. I might need to
(10:23):
ask a friend, I might need to ask for help
to help me set boundaries, which she's kind of doing.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But yeahin us, yeah, yeah, and maybe it is a
text like you were saying too, because sometimes setting a
boundary for the first time might be hard to do. Like,
don't don't put pressure on yourself to do it on
your next phone call of like, hey, just you know,
I'm busy, Like, let yourself do it via text, no pressure,
You're still communicating.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
We train people how to treat us. So if I
start setting those little bound indirect boundaries right there, she
might eventually be like, hey, I want to chat this week.
When are you free?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Give a mouse of cookie? It's gonna want milk.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
That's not it?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Give a moosa muffin is the sequel too? If you
give a mouse a cookie, they're going to ask for
a glass of milk, and then the book goes on
all these other things they asked for. So the book
I cannot believe, you know, I never Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Did your mom read to you when you were a kid?
Like you remember her? Like ask her? I wish I
wish my mom was alive and I could ask her.
Did you ever read to me? I don't remember my
mom ember like tucking me and reading to me.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I don't remember anybody reading to me. I just remember
there are certain books I liked as a kid, and
that was one of them.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Never give a mouse of cookie, and.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
No, if you give a musa muffin, and if you
give a mouse a cookie.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
If you give a mouse a cookie was Book one,
Volume one, and then volume two was mayf you give
a moosa muffin? What does he want? Because the mouse,
if you give him cookie, they want milk. If you
give the moose the muffin, what does he want?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You might still want milk. I don't remember I said
I would like to live read the book on air,
but I don't think it'd be very interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well, it might be helpful because is it fall in
line which we train people how to treat us?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But I don't remember the end of it.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
To train ourselves how to treat ourselves.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Amen, works both ways. I don't ever allow myself to
set boundaries. I'm never going to be setting.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Boundaries of just one little boundary at a time. One
small step.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
For you, what is it? One on?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Another step for mankind? For you? Oh wait, Neil Armstrong,
first word, it's one step for I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Was the first part.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Do you believe some people don't believe that we really
landed on the moon? Do you think we did? Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I do.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It looks like it sounds like you were bummed that
I'm not a conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Would be more interesting if you were cuckoo.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But do you think it's crazy people think the world
is flat? Yeah, but people don't think that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Oh I know they do, and they think the whole
main thing was fake.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You know what we haven't talked about, and maybe this
isn't the day. Maybe we'll come back and maybe we'll
do a deep dive on this. Uh huh the seven
m TikTok dance cult. They all deleted their profiles. Oh really, yes, okay,
I mean they might be back by now, but they
did because you know, they raided his house.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Okay, No, I don't know any of these details.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Okay, Well this might be a fun deep dive.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I think so too. Okay, we'd love to hear from you. Hey,
they're at Feeling Things podcast dot com and our phone number.
All the things in the show notes, follow us on socials,
and most importantly.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
We hope you have the day you need to have.
Bye bye,
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down. If you ever have feelings
that you just won't Amy and Cat gotcha, covin like likeing, No, brother,
ladies and folks, do you just follow an the spirit
where it's all us phone and real stuff, tell the
chill stuff and the m but Swayne, sometimes the best.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Thing you can do it just stop to feel things.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. Happy Tuesday,
Welcome to Couch Talks, our Q and a episode for
a Feeling Things podcast. I'm Amy and I'm Kat.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And quick disclaimer before we get into today's question that
although we're answering your questions and I am a therapist,
that this podcast does not serve as a replacement or
substitute for actual therapy. But we hope it helps you
or at least entertains you.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Our email today is anonymous. They would like to stay anonymous.
They made that clear at the end of the email.
You said, very like serious, They made that clear at
the end. Well, yeah, they said I would like to
stay anonymous, which is very clear, very clear. Going to
be clear, Hi, Amy and Kat. I've listened a four
(01:12):
things since the pandemic days and have enjoyed listening to
you and Kat throughout the years. I'm wanting advice on
supporting a close family member who is going through a
very messy and stressful divorce. In my opinion, the relationship
was toxic and I think there is fault on both sides. However,
my family member is really struggling and leaning on me
for a lot of support. I want to be there
(01:34):
for this person. However, I feel like I'm not getting
the full story and I find it hard to help
when I'm not getting the complete picture. They also want
to call me almost every day to talk for at
least an hour, and to be honest, it's a lot.
I know that they are stressed, but it is putting
a lot of stress on me as well because I
feel like I'm having to be on call for them
(01:54):
to dump their feelings onto Any advice on how to
support a family member going through a hard time I'm
while also protecting my own peace. Sorry for the novel. Also,
I would like to stay anonymous. I love you girls
and appreciate all the hard work you do to put
out content, which that is nice. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well. And this is you know what came to me
as I was listening to this. You read it again,
what is she afraid of? Well, well, you cannot.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Being there for I mean, I no, I cannot. I'm
not her.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I'm asking this to her, Like, what are you afraid of?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, I was thinking she might be afraid of letting
this person down, like she obviously is afraid of, like
not being there's a person.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, what will happen if you don't answer the phone?
What will happen if you aren't available?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
What's going to happen? And two things are coming up
for me? And again this is not therapy, so I
can't really know because I'm not sitting here with you.
But when that happens, a lot of times we think,
well if we don't do it, nobody will. That's one thought.
Another thought that is very subconscious. And I don't think
people really like hearing this either, So I'm gonna try
to say it like lightly and kindly. Sometimes we create
(03:03):
this chaos for ourselves because it actually feels good to
be that needed.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yes, and that is true. I can relate to that.
I can really on both sides. I think of being
the person that might be calling a lot, having gone
through a divorce or gone through different things. Now I
don't know that it was every day for an hour,
But I do know when you're going through something difficult,
sometimes you get into a comfortable pattern of relying on
(03:28):
people and just dumping it and maybe wanting to talk
so that then you can get some sort of validation
and hear that like you're right or you're making the
right decision.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
And if you're calling the same person over and over
again and that person's answering the phone and being really kind,
it's that whole training people how to treat you. That
person that's calling you doesn't know that you feel stressed
about this, doesn't know that you're overwhelmed, doesn't know because
you keep giving them, so they don't have the evidence
to be like, oh, no, I'm overstepping my boundaries.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And they're also in the middle of a major life
event yeah, and chaos and likely in survival mode of sorts,
so they may not have the awareness to know like,
I'm way overstepping some boundaries here and being disrespectful, because
sometimes we can get so caught up in our own
(04:18):
thing that's going on, and divorce is a huge thing,
Like it's huge, like it destroys people and can really
wreck you emotionally, if you're not doing the work, and yeah,
I think that they've gotten into a really unhealthy pattern
with you, and so now you have to be the
pattern breaker, which is not fun because also you might
(04:40):
be getting something from it a little bit, but now
you're getting exhausted, so you're kind of over it and
you're like, oh, at first, maybe this is good, and
I think, well, I'll say my layman's piece, and then
you can give more professional which you already have been doing.
But I think first and foremost just acknowledging their pain
(05:01):
and wanting to be there to support them, which you
have done. But you can verbally do that and then
start to set almost like appointments to talk of like, hey,
I know that you are hurting and going through a
difficult time, and also I want to be here for you,
So let's talk on Thursday at like three if you
(05:22):
can talk. I have a really busy week this week.
I don't even know that it has to be which
you might disagree with me, Kap, but I don't know
that it has to be a conversation of like I
can't talk to you this much, or you're really overstepping,
Like it almost could be that you just implement these
boundaries and it's sort of in a you know, nonchalant
but respectful to yourself kind of way, and to her
(05:43):
it's respectful to her too, And then it doesn't cause
any unnecessary drama or she doesn't feel embarrassed or shame
for calling you all the time. But again, we don't
know this person and their exact personality and the whole situation.
But I think just setting clear limits for yourself and
then if she doesn't respect that, then you can get
(06:05):
a little more firm if you're direct, that's a better word.
Firm feels more like parenting, but direct feels more like
a peer family member. You can get a little bit
more direct, but it's like it's what do you think about?
Like the indirect of like, hey, just you know this
coming week, I know we've been talking a lot and
I would love to be able to support you. I'm
(06:25):
gonna be very.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
You don't even have to say that much.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Keep it simple, like keep it simple, stupid, keep it simple?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
What is that from k kiss?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Like it's a way.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I think my little brother said that to me the
other day because I was asking a lot of questions
about something and he just yeah, I think he said, Okay,
so that's a thing. I thought you were calling me
stupid for a second. We're calling yourself stupid. So we're
kind of making this up into something maybe bigger than
it needs to be. It can be as simple as
hey can't talk right now, I'm free Thursday at three,
(06:58):
would love to catch would love to be there for you?
Or hey, I really want to be there for you.
I can't talk right now Thursday at three? Does that
work as simple as that? And what I also I
want to say as we're talking about this, these kinds
of things are really really hard to answer and give
you really clear feedback because there might be so much
(07:20):
inside of this. I was thinking, like this listener might
have grown up being taught that she has to serve
or be there, or she's not allowed to show up
for herself. There might be a lot of beliefs that
are gonna be harder to unwind than just listening to
us be like do this. And so I've said this
before and I'll probably continue to say it again, like
(07:41):
looking at what's the thing underneath a thing? That's why
I said, like what is she afraid of? Like what
is the fear here that you're not being a good person,
that somebody's going to be mad at you, that you're
not upholding your duties as a whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Fan.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I don't know what family member this is, if you're
a sister, a cousin or what have you, and in law?
So what is the thing underneath the thing you're overwhelmed? Well,
what's underneath that you're afraid if you speak up for yourself?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
What?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Or you feel sad because of what? Like, what is
really underneath that? And that might be a separate you
might want to do some work around that, and then
this setting the boundary is just like a symptom of
that thing.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You know. What stood out to me too that I
wanted to get your thoughts on. She said, I feel
like I'm not getting the full story, and I find
it hard to help when I'm not getting the complete picture. Yeah,
which is also frustrating.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But what is the value that.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Has to have the whole picture? The whole picture and
to help? I don't know. It's probably annoying if you
feel like you're only getting bits and pieces and she's
talking to you so much or he's talking to you
so much, and then you're like, I can't help you
if you're not going to be well truthful or open
and honest about the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, you can kind of sense sometimes, well I can
say that's a therapist that you can sense sometimes when
people are leaving specific things out and then you feel
kind of in this weird in between and I want
to help you, but I feel like I'm just kind
of placating you because I don't really know the whole story, gotcha.
So that kind of feels icky on the inside because
I don't want to be your yes man. But also
(09:11):
from what I am hearing, you're not doing anything wrong,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see what you're setting. And so
that could be it, which goes back to the like
wanting to call the time to have validation. Yeah, like
maybe they're just calling to be like to maybe hear
that they're not doing anything wrong or they're the good person.
That's not a fun place to be at all.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
But I always say it doesn't have to be a
come to Jesus meeting. When you set a boundary, you
can set it and nobody even has to know that
you're setting it, Like you saying, hey, I'm busy, let's
talk Thursday.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, I had the idea to do that, but then
I was going to explain a little more, and then
you drew back, and I'm like, good, keep it simple,
that is right, Like it is best to keep it simple. Yeah,
you don't have to give an explanation for everything. But
I've had to do a lot of growth in that
area over explaining.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, you've gotten so much better.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
But give yourself grace because if I'm used to doing that,
you keeping it simple right now is going to be
really hard for you. So acknowledge that, Like I'm doing
something and it's going to be hard, and I don't
have to tell myself, Oh, just get over it and just
do it. Suck it up. Acknowledge that it's hard to
keep right now. It's hard to keep things simple right now.
It's hard to hold this boundary. I might need to
(10:23):
ask a friend, I might need to ask for help
to help me set boundaries, which she's kind of doing.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But yeahin us, yeah, yeah, and maybe it is a
text like you were saying too, because sometimes setting a
boundary for the first time might be hard to do. Like,
don't don't put pressure on yourself to do it on
your next phone call of like, hey, just you know,
I'm busy, Like, let yourself do it via text, no pressure,
You're still communicating.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
We train people how to treat us. So if I
start setting those little bound indirect boundaries right there, she
might eventually be like, hey, I want to chat this week.
When are you free?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Give a mouse of cookie? It's gonna want milk.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
That's not it?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Give a moosa muffin is the sequel too? If you
give a mouse a cookie, they're going to ask for
a glass of milk, and then the book goes on
all these other things they asked for. So the book
I cannot believe, you know, I never Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Did your mom read to you when you were a kid?
Like you remember her? Like ask her? I wish I
wish my mom was alive and I could ask her.
Did you ever read to me? I don't remember my
mom ember like tucking me and reading to me.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I don't remember anybody reading to me. I just remember
there are certain books I liked as a kid, and
that was one of them.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Never give a mouse of cookie, and.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
No, if you give a musa muffin, and if you
give a mouse a cookie.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
If you give a mouse a cookie was Book one,
Volume one, and then volume two was mayf you give
a moosa muffin? What does he want? Because the mouse,
if you give him cookie, they want milk. If you
give the moose the muffin, what does he want?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You might still want milk. I don't remember I said
I would like to live read the book on air,
but I don't think it'd be very interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well, it might be helpful because is it fall in
line which we train people how to treat us?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But I don't remember the end of it.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
To train ourselves how to treat ourselves.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Amen, works both ways. I don't ever allow myself to
set boundaries. I'm never going to be setting.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Boundaries of just one little boundary at a time. One
small step.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
For you, what is it? One on?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Another step for mankind? For you? Oh wait, Neil Armstrong,
first word, it's one step for I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Was the first part.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Do you believe some people don't believe that we really
landed on the moon? Do you think we did? Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I do.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It looks like it sounds like you were bummed that
I'm not a conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Would be more interesting if you were cuckoo.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But do you think it's crazy people think the world
is flat? Yeah, but people don't think that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Oh I know they do, and they think the whole
main thing was fake.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You know what we haven't talked about, and maybe this
isn't the day. Maybe we'll come back and maybe we'll
do a deep dive on this. Uh huh the seven
m TikTok dance cult. They all deleted their profiles. Oh really, yes, okay,
I mean they might be back by now, but they
did because you know, they raided his house.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Okay, No, I don't know any of these details.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Okay, Well this might be a fun deep dive.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I think so too. Okay, we'd love to hear from you. Hey,
they're at Feeling Things podcast dot com and our phone number.
All the things in the show notes, follow us on socials,
and most importantly.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
We hope you have the day you need to have.
Bye bye,
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