August 24, 2023 • 42 mins
After searching for someone to be Amy's right hand for the podcast, she found someone who was literally "waiting for her call." In this episode you meet Haley D & if her story (after a string of no's) doesn't give you hope that there's a yes around the corner...well...we don't know what will. Haley D. has a very interesting life & we look forward to getting to know more about her.
THINGS DISCUSSED WITH HALEY D:
-If you're getting no after no right now...let her story be hope for you
-BravoCon & her theory on Andy + John Mayer
-American Idol (she tried out for it 10 years ago & made it to Hollywood)
-She had a hysterectomy at 33 (hormones, rage, etc...)
-There will be a future episode with her on postpartum
-Mississippi to Nashville for a new life!
-4 Things Gratitude
-Why she walks in silence or with a friend (it's therapeutic, yes, but it's more to do with her new TrueCrime obsession that now has her paranoid)
-Therapy / Knowing Your Worth-Acting As If (special 4 part series coming up!!)
-& MORE
Listen. Enjoy. Like. Subscribe. All the things. And most importantly, have the day you need to have!
HOST:
Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy
GUEST:
Haley D // @HaleyDollarhide
Email Amy with questions, comments, thoughts: 4ThingsWithAmyBrown@gmail.com
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Cast up little food for yourself. Oh it's pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey, it's pretty beautiful.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Thing beautiful that for a little more, said your kick
with full thing with Amy Brown.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
All right, Happy Thursday, Amy here and I have an
exciting announcement for the podcast Hailey D.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Hey, so Hailey D. Which her name is Hayley. Do
you want to say your last name or do you?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, I'm Hailey Dollar Hud Yes, and that is your
Instagram handle, which we sort of met on Instagram, but
we really met through our friend Jackie at her wedding.
That's when we met in person, but we had dm'd
a few times. You know, you got friends of friends
and you start following together acquaintances.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
On the inner world.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
And of course I know Jackie loves you, and I
had been looking for someone to help with a laundry
list of things that I knew I needed in my
life for things to just run the way I want
them to run. Like, I feel like I'm entering a
new era. Ever since the Taylor Swift Conseri Phil is
everything everything an era I can finally exhale and breathe
(01:27):
and start to build what I want to build.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Era.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You're Empowering Era.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Sure, that's way shorter, it's more concise, so my empowering
Era and just building that right team. And if you
listen to the Bobby Bone Show, you know that it's
a whole village there. Bobby's right hand man is Mike
d especially on his podcast, and having someone there to
help you with different things and wanting to grow it
(01:53):
in different things we want to do and filming and
la la la la la. We'll share as things come up,
not that we're trying to keep it a secrets is
where she'll try to figure out exactly what's going to happen.
And of course Kat Defado will still host The Fifth
Thing with me, and I'll still do interviews on Thursdays,
and it'll still be solo episodes, but at times like
Haley D Haley D, which there's a reason for that
(02:14):
will be present and she'll pop on. She's very funny
and thoughtful and has great stories and very relatable. And
that's the moment that I recall when I saw you
on Instagram, when I had the aha moment of I
should DM her. What if she is the perfect person
for this job, or what if she knows somebody and
(02:36):
I just sent a DM and said what's your phone number?
And then I said, I'm going to call you later.
So I called you and I told you what I
was looking for. And I was even hesitant because I thought, well,
maybe it's not her, but maybe you know somebody else.
And I just remember you saying, look, I don't want
to sound like your Meamer, but I can come over
tomorrow and I am the person for this job. And
(02:57):
I thought, okay, then this is how this is perfect.
But I've been trying to find someone for this job
for a while, and I have followed you for a while,
so it's interesting that one day it just clicks, and
I know you have your side of it, so I
think telling your side of it is a quick encouraging
story to people of like, keep going at it, and
(03:21):
the right thing is going to find you, and the
no's are a no for a reason.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And I'm sure there.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I know there's like a fun saying around that, but
like you know, every shut door is an open window
something like that.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yeah, but I mean for real though, because like even
down to like normally I go to therapy on Tuesdays,
and like I thought about this today because I went
today before I got here. And last week I had
a change in schedule and I went on Thursday, and
I said to my therapist, you know, it's like the
(03:54):
universe is finally opening doors for me because I just
stopped caring and I'm giving myself permission to take credit
for things that I deserve.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Literally, I said that Thursday.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
And then Friday morning, I went on a walk with
a friend and was very intentional about leaving my phone
and then I got back to my house and then
I opened it and there was a DM from Radio
Amy and I almost died.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Like literally, I.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Looked at my husband was working from home, and I
was like John, Oh my God, Like Amy just sent
me this message. And little did Amy know because on
her end, like I was telling my friend as much
as Amy, you know, I was an answered prayer for you.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You were an answered prayer for.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Me, because I would say, even though I've lived here
for two years now, I mean the first year I
lived here, I was just surviving.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
You know, moving sucks, and which you moved from Mississippi
to Nashville.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yes, and that's in you know, we'll get into that eventually,
I'm sure, but it's that it's a big move. But
the last year of my life I had I've really
tried to pursue a career and just you know, I
have sent cringe worthy emails amy to people that don't
know me from Adam, like just praying that someone would
(05:13):
read it, or like please I will answer your phone.
I just want to be near music because since I
have been a little kid, I saw myself a part
of this world.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
You know, a part of your world, and you can
sing fun fat Haley D. Yeah, I probably just gonna
call you Hanley.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
The whole D thing is just because I felt like
in my mind I would walk around saying and I
even talked to Mike D about it. I'm like, I
just need to find my mic D. Where's my Mike D?
Where is this person? And so when you came and
your last name started with the D, I was like,
oh my god, you're my Mike D. You're Haley D.
And so here you are. And you did audition for
American Idol ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I made it to Hollywood.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Girl, I didn't just saw audition, but yeah, no, I
mean it sounds a lot cooler than it actually is.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It was fun.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
It's like an experience that I am grateful that I
can say I got to do, but I learned very
quickly that that was not the life for me.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You have two kids too, and y'all moved to Nashville,
and also staying home with them has been great, but
you also realize that's not the life for you either.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I mean being a mom.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Of course, yes, yes, yes, one hundred percent wife that
you love your family, I'm not yeah and that, but
you knew you wanted more, and you moved to this
town and were trying to find it. And I loved
your hearing, your tenacity, and like you weren't going to
give up, and you were going to keep reaching out,
which I had no idea you were doing that. I
literally had no idea you were reaching out to people
in the industry at all whatsoever. I had done a morning,
(06:40):
done some work and then came back and was doing
like my meditation and prayer time in journaling, and then
I pulled up Instagram and that's when I saw your
face and then I sent you a DM and it
was just so clear, perfect time to me, and I thought, well,
she's probably got a lot going on to be busy,
and she's gonna maybe know somebody, but then you came
over on Saturday. We clicked Everything's great. And when you
(07:03):
say you love music and want to be there is
you're helping with women of iHeart Country, which is a
weekend show on iHeartRadio that I host where we play
only women in country music.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Which is my bread and butter. Yes, everything I stand
for in life when in country music.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So it's just really been divine how it has worked out.
And I hope that that story is encouragement that if
you have been going for something, trying for something in
your well.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
And I really want to say this because I've said
this to several people now since I feel like we've
been together for a year now and it's only been
what three days, Yeah, but three days. I said this
to my husband. I was like, it was as if
God was sitting next to me.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And I say this like very seriously.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So if you're listening to this, have hope, because I
felt like God sat next to me when you called
and was going down a list, like a checklist of
very specific prayers that I have prayed really relentlessly for
the last year and just checking them off one by one,
like you couldn't make it up. And it was like,
it is finally freaking happening. Like I got home, so
(08:10):
Amy called me, and I went to her house Saturday,
and I probably thought I'm going to be over there
for like an hour, and I got there at two
thirty and I didn't get home till eight o'clock at
night because we just hit it off. And when I
got home, I ran to my husband and just gave
him the biggest hug and just cried for ten minutes,
(08:31):
like the happiest cry. It was not I hate Amy, No,
it was great. It was like, you know, good things
really do happen for people. And there was, you know,
a time not that long ago where I was really
feeling defeated.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
So perseverance, did I say that right? Yes, perseverance.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
One thing about Haley is sometimes she second guesses her words,
but as do I. So we'll just we'll figure it
out together. But I'm very excited to have you, and
I want people to get to know more about you.
And when you said I rattled off a list on
the phone, I thought, I don't know who this person is,
but I feel like I'm gonna scare them away with
all these ideas and things that I need help with
(09:10):
and need to get done and just building the team
and it's exciting. But you are fully equipped to do
every single thing that I said, which is so wild
to me because I only I knew you from from
Instagram and I think you were top of mind because
you had posted a pizza sandwich video that I really
loved and it's it's bread and cheese and pepperoni, and
(09:31):
you had it, you grilled it and you filmed it
really cute. And on our anniversary, just the two of us, Amy,
we're gonna celebrate over pizza sandwiches. And you I knew
you loved country music and I thought love for women
of Ihart Country it's going to be so great. And
helping with women of Ihart Country social media and helping
grow the show and the podcast, and it's just don't
(09:53):
give up people the right If you're looking for the
right person, they will come. If you are, you know,
wondering why no is noticing your talents and skills, Eventually,
somehow it will happen. But you have to keep you.
You have to put in the work, and you were
doing just that.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Yeah, and you and I will say this, you cannot
care what other people think because there was a time
where people would roll their eyes like I cannot believe
Haley's posting this or she wants to do this, And honestly,
my Instagram was my resume for you, Like you would
have never even considered me for this had you not
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Because I wouldn't have known much about you other than
our friend Jackie right and knowing all the amazing things
she says has said about you. But that's on a
friendship level that work capacity.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, so do you boo.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
So in wanting people to get to know you, I
think I would love for you to do four things gratitude,
so four things you're currently thankful for, and then also
share after that four things that you're just really into. Okay,
(11:03):
I would love for you to do four things gratitude,
so four things you're currently thankful for, and then also
share after that four things that you're just really into.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Okay, out of the gate, I'm very grateful for this opportunity.
And I know that's like obvious, but I am. I'm
very very grateful for that. I am grateful for my health,
I am grateful for my family, and I'm very.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Grateful for the city of Nashville. I really am.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
It's been a very big blessing for my family, for
everyone in my family.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
We are thriving here.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
That's huge because I think when you moved from the
Sippy you were thinking things are not going well and
we need.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
To be I mean, it was kind of no, this
is one of those things I'm gonna butcher. But is
it fight or flight? Flight or fight? What is the saying?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Well, I don't know the saying that that's one of
the there's fight flight freeze.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Well, it was kind of like, I mean, in all seriousness,
my marriage was not great.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Okay, you mean you're either gonna fight for your marriage
or you're gonna run for it.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, we're dipping. Yeah we're done. Yeah okay.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
And I kind of told him like, this is where
my soul belongs and we're going and you can come
with me or you can stay here. And my husband's
not very big on change, and so he decided to
fight for it and we came and honestly, he was
scared the most, Like he is thriving.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
He loves it here.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
So yeah, it's been the best decision we could have
ever made.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
So that's four things you're thankful for? And what are
you into?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I am very into country music, and I am very
into live country music.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I really really am into concerts.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I'm really into Bravo as you know, I'm going to
Bravo Conn in November, and it'll be my first time
going to Vegas.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Very excited about that. I think you're gonna have so
much fun. I am tempted to join you.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Come on.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
The problem is the weekend before that is Kat's bachelorette party,
and I don't think I can be gone two weekends
in a row.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Those are big weekends.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Oh yeah, well, I'll follow your I'll follow your Instagram
and pretend I'm at Bravo Con because will any of
the vander Pump Rules people be there.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Well, you know Rachel or Raquelle whatever she's going by now,
she's you know, not resigned her contract. She will no
longer be on vanderpumt Rules, which hey, nobody hears.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Also, do you think that Andy and John Mayer are dating?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I mean I have a whole theory. I mean, they
swear that they've never but I think there has been
something before. I mean I would be shocked, but I
mean I'm here for it.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Okay. So third thing, third.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Thing that I'm into is walks. I walk every single day.
It's a big thing for my mental health. And like,
if it's raining or blistering hot, I have a treadmill
and I go upstairs. And and the funny thing about
that is I will never run on pavement, but I
will run my socks off on a treadmill.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
So you're listening to something, are you in silence or all? Right?
So I used to listen to things until this is weird.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
But do you remember the Idaho murder back in like
what November?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I mean, who doesn't remember?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
But yeah, I got like obsessively obsessed with I don't
know the best way to say that, but yeah, I
was like really into it. Like I was having nightmares,
Like we got ring cams put on every angle of
my house.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I got like into it.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
And so, okay, So you're into it in an unhealthy
way where you're totally consumed by it, to it and
affecting your everyday life thinking this could happen to you.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
In one aspect, it was good that I was not
so naive to the world, right, But on the other hand,
it was like, Okay, you have to come up for air, Haley.
You know, you have to get on with life. But
I was just not into true crime before that, and
now I love it. So I stopped listening to anything
with headphones on, and then I just kind of realized, Hey,
it's actually really nice to hear.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
The birds chirp.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
So I either go with nothing or I go with
a girlfriend and we talk and catch up, and it's
really a nice just like call it meditation, call it
whatever you want, but that's like an intentional time of
my day where I go at least for an hour.
Especially a big part of my job is on the phone.
There's nothing more gut punching than on Sunday. I kind
(15:10):
of figure out how to turn that off. But like
on Sundays when you're like your average rate is nine
hours today, and I'm like, oh my, at nine hours
every day this week, or you've improved you only spent
eight hours a day on your phone, I'm like, oh
my goodness. You know, so a daily walk for me
to be intentional about not having a phone is clutch.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I definitely have experienced the mental health benefits of that,
and even Birch chirping. There's science that backs up that
that's good for you to hear. And even if I
can get ten minutes, you know, sometimes an hour sounds
intimidating or it's just more so can you get outside
and have that recharge, or can you go eat your
(15:51):
lunch outside? Even just getting vitamin D and being with
nature can be so beneficial. And I had not thought
about if you have a headphones in, how you can't
be prepared or aware.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Oh girl, somebody can walk up straight behind you and
you don't hear them at all. Okay, yeah, right now
I've just scared everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Well, no, it's I think it's stocking headphones just went down.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I think I actually have seen a post where if
you have the earbuds in, just keep it in one
ear and that way your other ear.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I tried it and it just bugged me. Okay, you
need it.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I'm on all or nothing, like my therapist tells me
often like gray as a color, you know, like everything
doesn't have to be black or white.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
But it's just it's something I'm working on.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Because what's your Enneagram number? I'm an eight in every
definition of the sense. Eights are pretty black and white
very much so, and so I'm working on it, but
it's good for me to just see the gray. And
I'll tell you something else I've learned about myself in
the last year. I didn't realize how the way I
talk to myself was so intense. I mean, I'm an
(16:58):
intense person. I'm very extreme, but like you just said,
sometimes an hour can seem overwhelming overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Well, I used to and this.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
You know, Amy and I were talking earlier about postpartum
and we can get into that. But I used to say,
and this goes with the gray area. I used to think, well,
if I can't do an hour, I'm just not gonna
do it at all because ten minutes and I would
literally say to myself, you're a loser. You're a loser
if you only did ten minutes. But actually ten minutes
is better than zero minutes, you know. And so now
(17:31):
it's like, if I can't do an hour, I'll just
go do what I feel like doing. And if I
go out there and it's too blistering hot, because we're
in we've been in it. I feel like we've been
in a heat advisory for all of summer. But like
if I go out there and I decide it's too hot.
I'm just kind of like taken the pressure off of
it and I just turn around and go home.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But I used to would not do that.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I really would beat myself up so bad that I
was a loser.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Well, and right now we're using walking as an example,
But is that with it any task or project, Like
if you can't find a hundred percent list, like it's not.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
But I would back like it would backfire because then
I would just not start, Like if I knew I
couldn't start, I wouldn't I mean, if I couldn't finish,
I just wouldn't start, and then I would feel even worse.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I mean, it was just a really nasty cycle.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
What do you think is like one thing that you
shifted that helped you besides just being encouraged to see
the gray area. But if there's somebody else that's like,
oh my gosh, that's me I am that way, Is
there any I mean thing that worked for you.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
If I'm getting I always say this is like coffee
shop moments where I like snap, I've had a big
therapy journey in the last three years and it all
just went to like I mean this is deep, but
like I took it back like years like twenty your childhood,
like how I was spoken to. I mean, I have
like crazy stories for my childhood, but it was like
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how I was allowed. I mean, when you're a kid,
I mean, what are you really allowed to be spoken to?
But it was like what I thought was normal to
be spoken to, which turned into how I spoke to myself,
which was like years of habits to learning new techniques
to breaking habits.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's been a journey.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
It's been a journey, but it's like I'm so grateful
for the journey because my life.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Has improved immensely.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, I mean I just a little bit that I
know from you and and the hard work that you've done.
And yeah, sometimes it might be addressing something that happened
last week, but then you realize, oh, well, that thing
that happened last week probably only really happened because of
that thing from when I was ten. If you're willing
to go there, then that's when the deep healing can happen.
(19:44):
You can actually, yeah, change course and start to see
the gray or for you, whatever the case is, Like
why am I so rigid? Or why is my self
talk so negative, I'll always go to the root. Yeah,
we can just say all day long here, And we
tried to be as encourage as possible, especially having Kat,
a therapist, as a co host of the fifth thing
of you know, let's talk more positively to ourselves.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Let's not do that. But that's not because we have
it all figured out.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
It's just because the science behind that is that we
know mentally were it's going to be better for our health.
But then why is it that we talked to ourselves
that way? And let's dig a little deeper and then
you can become aware, and having awareness is is everything because.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Sometimes you don't even realize you're doing it. Yes, you
like lash out at other people. I think that's how
I like pinpointed it. I was really unkind to other people,
an example, my husband, and then I was really unkind
to my children. And then I think what really kind
of started flagging it was I was really unkind to
my children and everything I hated about my childhood. I
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had a really abusive stepfather, which I want to I
want to be very clear. The person my mother is
married to now is wonderful. It's not the stepfather I
grew up with. But I was who I hated, and
that was like a red flag for me. But it
was projection, you know, like I'm looking at Amy, like
am I saying that? Right? But I was projecting onto
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my children how I felt inside. And so then it
just kind of you know, it's not like you walk
into a therapist office and it's like, huh, I got
it all figured out.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I'm gonna be so nice tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
But I realized I was saying all these things to them,
but it was really actually saying it to myself.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And anyway, just on that that's exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
How I get I mean certain things I've said to
certain people. Once I've done the work, I realized, oh,
I only said that to them because it's literally how
I feel about myself or vice versa, painful things that
have been said to me. Come to find out, Oh,
I actually have grace and compassion. Doesn't mean you can
be spoken to anyway that by this is just my
own personal experience. It's like, oh, I have room for
(21:51):
forgiveness in that situation because I know that that person
was hurting and they were literally telling me all the
things they actually felt about themselves. And I was the
recipient of it, So okay, I'll deep there so I
can't remember where we are. On things that you like,
Like you like walking, Yeah, sorry, y'all.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
We like therapy.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, so share two more things that help us get
to know you that you're into.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Cooking is also very therapeutic for me, even if I
don't eat it. I'm one of those people that like,
if I'm bored, I will just go in the pantry
and just like joy your child's it.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
So I love it.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Like when I was a kid, I would take potatoes
and slice them up and pretend I was on a
cooking show and fry them or bake them or like
bubble Gump with true.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Hey, maybe you'll have a a potato show one day. Yeah,
Hailey D's potato potatoes.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
So Sharon, I made a potato soup the other night
that is really easy, really good. I mean it was
like frozen hash browns but cubed not shredded, and you
just saw those in a pot with cream of chicken soup,
some cream cheese, some shredded cheese, chicken stock, and you
just left that simmer for a few hours and.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
People ask you, and I would be curious to know
what yours is But people ask you. They'll they're say,
what is your food that you're taking on an island?
You know, like, if you're stranded, I'm taking a potato.
You could do a lot with a potato if you're
stranded on an islon.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Okay, because you can do a mashed potato and new bakedotato,
your French fry and potato tot You've already got a
whole hand. What else can you can have something different
every day of the week routine. But but then you
have nothing else to go with it. It's just a potato?
Does it come with butter inside? You're making this complicated? Okay, sorry, okay,
well what are you going to take? I mean, not
an orange?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Not like you know what I'm like, Maybe there's like
I mean, I'm sorry if I fend like a vegetarian,
but maybe there's like livestock on the island and there's
your protein.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I mean, you're stranded, I'm taking a potato.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I've always said, I I feel like I want Queso
chips and what.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Are you gonna what's what's your shovel well chips?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
But it comes to together, No, not on this island. Okay,
So literally.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
You know what, you and I could go together and
I've got your chips. Well, now I'll take the case
and dip a potato in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're together. Yes, okay,
all right, okay, we're a perfect match, are Okay?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
The classic what do you take on an island? What
beauty product would you take that's a food? Like, what's
one thing that you can't live without? What beauty product
would you take that's a food? Like, what's one thing
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that you can't live without?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Tended moisturizer, Like I said, we're on an island, we
need to protect our skin. Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
One. I really like.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Tart products I have like in tell A shade. But
I'm open to trying new things.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Saying like I used to never have sensitive skin, and
then I had a full blown hysterectomy when I was
thir three, and it changed everything because I'm on hormone
replacements because it put me into full blown menopause and
that's too young to be in menopause or your body
goes crazy. And the medicine just changed my DNA and
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so now I have really sensitive It's weird. I have
not sensitive skin to cleaning products, but I have very
sensitive skin to make up, Like I can't wear Walgreen's
foundation or anything anymore because it will cause you, like,
it'll break me out. Okay, it's wild, though. I had
to like relearn everything about my body.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Nothing against the corner of happy and healthy, but.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Just any kind of oh yeah, it's not a maybe
a more we get we like Bethany Frankel. You know,
she has that little series on her Instagram where she
tries drugstore products, and I kind of went down that
rabbit hole and tried several of her things, and I
was really excited about it because look, I love boogie
on a budget. I'm here for it. And so many
of the products broke me out. But then I would
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try all of her creams that she like. This Laurel
midnight cream that's like thirty dollars from Target is one
of my favorite products. It's like a night cream and
like the face wash as Pond's cold cream like everybody's
grandmother uses. I will die using that stuff. It's five
dollars for tube get your makeup off in one wipe.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh okay, I'm gonna have to try it. It's incredible.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I like Saravey from the drug store. I use their products,
their foaming cleanser. They have a great lotion. I use
that on my body. But why has directed me at
thirty three? I started my period when I was ten
years old. Amy, I've done my time, right, Wow? I
was fourteen.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah. Yeah, everybody's like, h I was in college or whatever.
Yeah I was.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I'm like, well, yeah, ten years old, so obviously I
was the first of my friends.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
It was terrible. I had PCs.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I had endometriosis adnomiosis where it's like the lining of
your wall on the inside and the outside. I had
horrible periods, would be a kneemic. I mean it would
literally keep me from doing things. I was crippled by it.
Literally I would be hospitalized.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
For like my migraines.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
It was just like horrible, and it got worse, significantly
worse after I had children, and after my second child,
we kind of knew we were done having babies, and
I was crazy, Like I was just hormonally. Hormonially, I
was unstable and I knew it. I could feel it.
Isn't that the.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Worst when you're I feel the times when I've been
reacting hormonally, it's like I literally know how crazy I'm
being and there's nothing to do, do not care, Like, no,
I'm gonna go ahead and whatever. Send the sext, say
this thing, do the same throughout the saying I mean,
and then later I'm like.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You're ashamed.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, you know that song Chris Stapleton sings, I got
nobody to blame me or whatever, and she goes she
took all my whiskey and poured it down the drain
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I did that.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I poured a whole bottle of Scotch whiskey down the
drain in one of my like crazy episodes because John
was like, looked at me wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I was like, so you just grabbed his whiskey and
said take this.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
It was like crazy like and it was not a
twenty dollars bottle of Scotch whiskey either.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It was like, I think it was one of the
bottles he'd gotten.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
When he like made partner. Somebody really splurged and I
just was like, watch me. Yeah, I mean, I was crazy.
Yeah it was not.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I looked listen, I'm not even I didn't even have
what you know. I was diagnosed with PMDD in college.
So I feel like some of that, I don't know,
shifted hormone. I got better, and then somewhere later on
the line like hormones, but then some of it. I
also think I was wanting to blame hormones and really
I just needed to do a lot of work on myself.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
And then one combination did the therapy right.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And now I'm they say, they say, my guy in
necologist says perimenopausal. But I feel that times when it's
coming and I'm like, what is happening? I don't know,
and I'm not sleeping right and my mouth is dry.
Everyone keeps telling me menopause is coming. I mean, I'm
forty two. So yeah, you at thirty three, having two
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young kids and then having some of these symptoms that you're.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Like, what the heck? Well, I went in originally to
have the oblasion. That's what my doctor recommended, which is
like would eliminate having a period. Right, They go in
and like freeze everything out. So in order to have that,
you have to go in for like a pre op sonogram.
And when I went in for that, there was a tumor.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
It was none nine. Yeah, there we go. I'm not
laughing at that.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I'm laughing at that I didn't know the word for it,
but she was like, you're no longer a candidate for this.
You know, it tells us that this is hormonal and
that this is you know, some women are options for
that and it changes their whole life, but I was
no longer younger a candidate for that. So we quickly realized, Okay,
now we have to go to Plan B, and that
is take everything.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
And yeah, I mean, it changed my life for the better.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
But it was not like, Okay, she got a hysterectomy
and then the next day.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Everything was great.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
So like the first couple weeks, they couldn't put me
on hormones right away because you're at higher risk for
blood clots because of the hormones. So I had to
experience I mean, it put me into immediate menopause the
second they took all my ovaries and everything. So for
the first two weeks, I had to experience full blown
menopause at thirty three, and it's brutal. And I'm thirty
(30:40):
three and I have no body that's my age to
like coach.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Me through this.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
The only people that have been through this are my
mom's age, and when they went through it, they didn't
have a two year old and a four year old
you know what I'm saying, or a new you know
what I'm saying, like they are not on the same
it was. It was a very unique situation and it
was horrible, truly.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I don't wish it on anyone, and I.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Had a lot of friends that were not necessarily I mean,
I understand it, and it worked out the way it
was supposed to. But that was when the I told
you I had a friend cleanse. I lost a lot
of friends in the process because I was just in
a rut trying to like figure out what the new
normal was for me.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
But I was I was on it, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
I thought I was going to magically be uncrazy after that,
and then I went to a whole new level of
crazy because now my body is completely different.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
And people warning about the hot flashes.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Girl, it's like someone lights a fire on your bones
and you could go stand in the refrigerator in costco
butt naked and it's not helping.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
It's like your bones are on fire.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
And my mom she like sat beside my bed and
would be like, it's just gonna last for two minutes.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And she was right. I mean, one hundred and twenty
seconds and then they was gone.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
So literally, hot flash and I'm talking on fire hot yeah,
and then it just goes away. And so once you
know that two week period was gone, I started on
the patch and I would remember to change it on
Sundays and Wednesdays because we went to church on Sundays
and Wednesdays. And then COVID hit and nobody knew what
day it was, so yeah, that messed everything up. And
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so then I went down a crazy path because I
couldn't remember what day it was. And then I would
like look down and remember I didn't change the patch.
It's like a little sticker you put like right here
on your hip, so it then like oh shoot, yeah,
it would be like falling off and I would like
I would catch myself being mean to everybody. You're kind
of crazy, and I'm like, well, no, wonder I haven't
changed my hormone in three weeks. Your husband's like, yeah,
checked your path, yes, oh literally, And that would send
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me over the edge. Amy Like, there's nothing worse than
somebody telling you to calm down.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Eve, especially when you're not about to start and they're like, oh,
are you about to start?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, are you about to die?
Speaker 3 (32:53):
And then inside you're please like begging, let me start
tomorrow anytime I've been particularly crazy. And then I do
happen to start in the next couple of days. I
sort of exhale, like, oh, okay, yeah, I'm not great.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah, and he would be right, but I would never
admit it, you know what I'm saying, Like that was
just a bad time.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I mean I was like for everything.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
I was like one stip away from the Betty Ford
Center too, Like I was drinking all the time, and
it was just not a good look for me. Then
I got on a pill like a it's called primerin
I think that's what it's called.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
And it's been very successful for me.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
So now because I already take twenty seven pills every morning,
so I was like, what's one more? And now I
consistently take it. So I take a hormone pill every
single day, and now it's fully in my system and
I'm regulated. So between a hormone and you know, therapy,
I'm only.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Thirty percent crazy.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
And what do they tell you if you can just
get it thirty percent right, you're good? Yep, you know,
I say, I'm cooking with grease, and John's like, you're
cooking with gas.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
You're saying it wrong. But yees, so I'm cooking with something,
cooking with something.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Well, I know in the mix of that conversation, you
brought up the friend clanse and that was part of
our six hour hang or whatever it was at my
house and two of my friends that were here, they
were just here hanging out and they got to know you.
And now y'all have like a group text together and
I'm on it. Y'all are all texting about things, and
so it's interesting, you know how people come into your life.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
And those are two friends.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
One of them is an adopted mom that came into
my life because we have kids the same age.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Oh is that how y'all became friends? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Oh I love that, yep, because we both adopted. We
were during COVID actually had done a news segment together
about being white parents to black kids, and we were
on the same segment, but it was zoom, so we
weren't in studio. And then I was hiking one day
and she happened to be the same trail and she
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came up and introduced herself in person, and then we
just started talking started talking about our kids similar things.
She invited me to this adopted mom's group and told
me about it on Facebook, and then they meet in
person anyways, the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So, yeah, we became friends. That's how.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
And then Kat the other cat Cryocat, I met her
at something therapeutic that I was doing for myself during COVID,
which was cryotherapy the three minutes of negative two hundred
and twenty.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I want to try that. Oh yeah, I'll take you cryocat. Well, yeah,
she'll do it for you.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
So I think we got to therapy was one of
your things you're into. Maybe just throw out a fourth
thing in case we haven't covered it that you're into.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I think we covered all of the four things you
were about to say, getting into postpartum most partum well.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Because we Yeah, I wanted to circle back to the
friendship cleanse that you'd me about. Yeah, and then also
you read my mind. I also wanted to circle back
because we also talked that day about postpartum and your
experience with that. So I feel like that's a whole
nother episode of people would like to hear that, and
y'all can send emails. Four Things with Amy Brown gmail
(36:00):
dot com. And I'm just excited to have Haley on
the team. And I'm excited that she's going to get
to know y'all and y'all are going to get to
know her. And it's not like you always hear her voice,
but just know that she's always around, always here. She's
always a lurking. I tell my kids, they'll be like,
how do you know? And I'm like, I know everything. Yeah,
I am always watching. But don't make her mad. She
might put your favorite thing down the drain.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
All Teresa Judai is flip the table if you.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Know, you know, yeah, Bravo or if you're going to
Bravo con hit her up.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Absolutely, she might see you there.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I have another fun announcement, which is a special Acting
as If four part series that is going to be
released on September fourth. That's a Monday, So in just
a few days, on Monday, the twenty eighth of August,
you're going to hear the trailer for Acting as If.
But I'll give you a heads up of what it
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is about. And positive thinking alone is not going to
cut it in certain areas.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I don't know if you can relate to that.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
You think you're on thinking positively, but nothing's really happening.
And I invited my friend and self image scientist Leeann
Ellington to sit down with me for a very doable
approach to helping us claim the reins of confusing thoughts
that are in our mind, you know, those loops, the
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negative thinking. I really want myself, I want Haley. I
want everybody listening to be able to step into who
you want to be. And I want you to know
that that is actually possible. So if you're feeling stuck,
if you're battling self doubt, if you want to take
ownership of your life, ownership of your thoughts, well, Acting
(37:40):
as If is a four part series that literally is
for you. And we designed it into four parts, not
because it's the Four Things podcast, like a bonus series,
but there are literally four guideposts to this whole Acting
as If, and I promise you'll be able to learn it,
grasp it. You can start using it implementing it right away.
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And even if you're someone that's like, eh, this sounds
like positive thinking Acting as If. I've tried that before,
it's never worked for me in the past. I want
you to listen to how Leanne breaks this down into
the four parts, and we're releasing all four episodes on Monday,
the fourth, because we want you to have them all
in a row, but we wanted it to be digestible,
so you can listen to one and then take it in,
(38:22):
and then listen to the other one you're ready and
take it in and not have to wait a week
apart for each thing.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
And it's labor Day, so you'll have plenty of time
to listen.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, labor on yourself. Yeah, you can work on yourself
and start acting as If. I have used acting as
If multiple times. I'm currently still using it in other
areas of my life. For some of you, maybe it'll
only be useful once. I feel like a lot of you,
it's going to be useful in multiple areas of your life.
And you're going to realize even if you take a
few steps backwards in something, you're like, oh, I got
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my Acting as If four guideposts in my toolbox. I
can bust these out and we can rewire our brains.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
And that's the.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Beauty of it. I want you to act as if
you are worthy of the job that you want, Okay, right, Hayley, Yes, yes, yes,
act as if it is normal for you to order
a pizza and not think about it five hundred different
times that you can't believe you ordered the Pizzai, Why
are you eating the pizza? You should be eating a salad.
That was in my eating disorder recovery. Is the first
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n I'd ever even heard of acting as if, and
that was the first time I trained my brain in
that way. And then as of late earlier this year,
I was working through acting as if for worthiness and
knowing that I am worthy, but like really believe. You
can't just be like I am worthy as an affirmation.
You know, the aff me I am worthy, you are worthy? Great,
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we can hear that, but you have to do the
four guide posts. You have to think it, you have
to feel it, you have to believe it, and you
have to do it. If you don't have that recipe,
that's not going to work. You can say those affirmations
all day long, and that's true.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
So I'm very, very, very very excited about the series.
If you can't tell, and on Monday the twenty to
get the trailer, and then the following Monday, on Labor Day,
the fourth, you will get all four parts and then
leanne Ellington also has her own podcast coming out soon,
and I can't wait to tell.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Y'all all about that. It's called What's God Got to
Do with It? Whats God got to do?
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Got to do with It?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I won't even planned, y'all. I love that you are.
You are your singer. I told you my life is
a musical.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
I will just breakout and song all the time, and
that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I'm here for like that is going to start happening,
So I'll tell y'all about that coming up soon. And
then there's with acting as if Leannellington dot com slash
acting as if she's going to have all these free
resources for you to go and check out that will
be helpful and go along with each episode. This is
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something we are very passionate about people getting, especially women,
because I feel like we have a lot of false
narratives going on in our minds at any given moment
about various things, and we need to start acting as
if we belong to be here because we do.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
If you've seen Barbie, you know you get it. You
don't have to ask it. You haven't. I know, I
know I've got to see it. You're miss pop culture,
I know, at least tell me to see it. I've
got to see it.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Okay, Well, thank you Hailey for coming on. So happy
to be here introducing yourself. Thank you for helping me.
I'm already thanking you in the future. Yeah, this is
like free tweet future gratitude for I think everything that
you're going to bring to my life. I already told
you the other day that I was instantly energized by you.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Same.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
It's a mutual feeling, mutual, there's reciprocity here for sure.
Hailey again, where can people find you at at Hailey
Dollar Had And she's going to also be running at
Women of Our Heart Country. And then she's also helping
me get a handle on social media because I've been
fighting that fight for a long time, Like I don't
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I don't know, but I've looked.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
To We're just elevating it a little bit. She's still
in charge of her own stuff. I'm just helping her
elevate her look a little bit. She's a cheerleader and
a lot of it is cleaning her up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
So if you're seeing that change, I am excited about it,
and I'm grateful for Haley's expertise and input.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
And also I want to clarify that you are helping me.
You're teaching me all kinds of things.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Oh good, Yeah, okay, yeah see, And I guess we'll
close with that.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, I have a great week, have the day that
you need to have.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yes, as our lovely Catfata likes to say, and again,
email four things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com.
Love to hear from you and on socials. I am
at radio Amy, but don't be surprised by what you
see there because we're up in the game.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
We're gonna keep you on your toes. Bye.
Cast up little food for yourself. Oh it's pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey, it's pretty beautiful.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Thing beautiful that for a little more, said your kick
with full thing with Amy Brown.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
All right, Happy Thursday, Amy here and I have an
exciting announcement for the podcast Hailey D.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Hey, so Hailey D. Which her name is Hayley. Do
you want to say your last name or do you?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, I'm Hailey Dollar Hud Yes, and that is your
Instagram handle, which we sort of met on Instagram, but
we really met through our friend Jackie at her wedding.
That's when we met in person, but we had dm'd
a few times. You know, you got friends of friends
and you start following together acquaintances.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
On the inner world.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
And of course I know Jackie loves you, and I
had been looking for someone to help with a laundry
list of things that I knew I needed in my
life for things to just run the way I want
them to run. Like, I feel like I'm entering a
new era. Ever since the Taylor Swift Conseri Phil is
everything everything an era I can finally exhale and breathe
(01:27):
and start to build what I want to build.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Era.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You're Empowering Era.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Sure, that's way shorter, it's more concise, so my empowering
Era and just building that right team. And if you
listen to the Bobby Bone Show, you know that it's
a whole village there. Bobby's right hand man is Mike
d especially on his podcast, and having someone there to
help you with different things and wanting to grow it
(01:53):
in different things we want to do and filming and
la la la la la. We'll share as things come up,
not that we're trying to keep it a secrets is
where she'll try to figure out exactly what's going to happen.
And of course Kat Defado will still host The Fifth
Thing with me, and I'll still do interviews on Thursdays,
and it'll still be solo episodes, but at times like
Haley D Haley D, which there's a reason for that
(02:14):
will be present and she'll pop on. She's very funny
and thoughtful and has great stories and very relatable. And
that's the moment that I recall when I saw you
on Instagram, when I had the aha moment of I
should DM her. What if she is the perfect person
for this job, or what if she knows somebody and
(02:36):
I just sent a DM and said what's your phone number?
And then I said, I'm going to call you later.
So I called you and I told you what I
was looking for. And I was even hesitant because I thought, well,
maybe it's not her, but maybe you know somebody else.
And I just remember you saying, look, I don't want
to sound like your Meamer, but I can come over
tomorrow and I am the person for this job. And
(02:57):
I thought, okay, then this is how this is perfect.
But I've been trying to find someone for this job
for a while, and I have followed you for a while,
so it's interesting that one day it just clicks, and
I know you have your side of it, so I
think telling your side of it is a quick encouraging
story to people of like, keep going at it, and
(03:21):
the right thing is going to find you, and the
no's are a no for a reason.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And I'm sure there.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I know there's like a fun saying around that, but
like you know, every shut door is an open window
something like that.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yeah, but I mean for real though, because like even
down to like normally I go to therapy on Tuesdays,
and like I thought about this today because I went
today before I got here. And last week I had
a change in schedule and I went on Thursday, and
I said to my therapist, you know, it's like the
(03:54):
universe is finally opening doors for me because I just
stopped caring and I'm giving myself permission to take credit
for things that I deserve.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Literally, I said that Thursday.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
And then Friday morning, I went on a walk with
a friend and was very intentional about leaving my phone
and then I got back to my house and then
I opened it and there was a DM from Radio
Amy and I almost died.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Like literally, I.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Looked at my husband was working from home, and I
was like John, Oh my God, Like Amy just sent
me this message. And little did Amy know because on
her end, like I was telling my friend as much
as Amy, you know, I was an answered prayer for you.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You were an answered prayer for.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Me, because I would say, even though I've lived here
for two years now, I mean the first year I
lived here, I was just surviving.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
You know, moving sucks, and which you moved from Mississippi
to Nashville.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yes, and that's in you know, we'll get into that eventually,
I'm sure, but it's that it's a big move. But
the last year of my life I had I've really
tried to pursue a career and just you know, I
have sent cringe worthy emails amy to people that don't
know me from Adam, like just praying that someone would
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read it, or like please I will answer your phone.
I just want to be near music because since I
have been a little kid, I saw myself a part
of this world.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
You know, a part of your world, and you can
sing fun fat Haley D. Yeah, I probably just gonna
call you Hanley.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
The whole D thing is just because I felt like
in my mind I would walk around saying and I
even talked to Mike D about it. I'm like, I
just need to find my mic D. Where's my Mike D?
Where is this person? And so when you came and
your last name started with the D, I was like,
oh my god, you're my Mike D. You're Haley D.
And so here you are. And you did audition for
American Idol ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I made it to Hollywood.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Girl, I didn't just saw audition, but yeah, no, I
mean it sounds a lot cooler than it actually is.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It was fun.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
It's like an experience that I am grateful that I
can say I got to do, but I learned very
quickly that that was not the life for me.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You have two kids too, and y'all moved to Nashville,
and also staying home with them has been great, but
you also realize that's not the life for you either.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I mean being a mom.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Of course, yes, yes, yes, one hundred percent wife that
you love your family, I'm not yeah and that, but
you knew you wanted more, and you moved to this
town and were trying to find it. And I loved
your hearing, your tenacity, and like you weren't going to
give up, and you were going to keep reaching out,
which I had no idea you were doing that. I
literally had no idea you were reaching out to people
in the industry at all whatsoever. I had done a morning,
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done some work and then came back and was doing
like my meditation and prayer time in journaling, and then
I pulled up Instagram and that's when I saw your
face and then I sent you a DM and it
was just so clear, perfect time to me, and I thought, well,
she's probably got a lot going on to be busy,
and she's gonna maybe know somebody, but then you came
over on Saturday. We clicked Everything's great. And when you
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say you love music and want to be there is
you're helping with women of iHeart Country, which is a
weekend show on iHeartRadio that I host where we play
only women in country music.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Which is my bread and butter. Yes, everything I stand
for in life when in country music.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So it's just really been divine how it has worked out.
And I hope that that story is encouragement that if
you have been going for something, trying for something in
your well.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
And I really want to say this because I've said
this to several people now since I feel like we've
been together for a year now and it's only been
what three days, Yeah, but three days. I said this
to my husband. I was like, it was as if
God was sitting next to me.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And I say this like very seriously.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So if you're listening to this, have hope, because I
felt like God sat next to me when you called
and was going down a list, like a checklist of
very specific prayers that I have prayed really relentlessly for
the last year and just checking them off one by one,
like you couldn't make it up. And it was like,
it is finally freaking happening. Like I got home, so
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Amy called me, and I went to her house Saturday,
and I probably thought I'm going to be over there
for like an hour, and I got there at two
thirty and I didn't get home till eight o'clock at
night because we just hit it off. And when I
got home, I ran to my husband and just gave
him the biggest hug and just cried for ten minutes,
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like the happiest cry. It was not I hate Amy, No,
it was great. It was like, you know, good things
really do happen for people. And there was, you know,
a time not that long ago where I was really
feeling defeated.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
So perseverance, did I say that right? Yes, perseverance.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
One thing about Haley is sometimes she second guesses her words,
but as do I. So we'll just we'll figure it
out together. But I'm very excited to have you, and
I want people to get to know more about you.
And when you said I rattled off a list on
the phone, I thought, I don't know who this person is,
but I feel like I'm gonna scare them away with
all these ideas and things that I need help with
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and need to get done and just building the team
and it's exciting. But you are fully equipped to do
every single thing that I said, which is so wild
to me because I only I knew you from from
Instagram and I think you were top of mind because
you had posted a pizza sandwich video that I really
loved and it's it's bread and cheese and pepperoni, and
(09:31):
you had it, you grilled it and you filmed it
really cute. And on our anniversary, just the two of us, Amy,
we're gonna celebrate over pizza sandwiches. And you I knew
you loved country music and I thought love for women
of Ihart Country it's going to be so great. And
helping with women of Ihart Country social media and helping
grow the show and the podcast, and it's just don't
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give up people the right If you're looking for the
right person, they will come. If you are, you know,
wondering why no is noticing your talents and skills, Eventually,
somehow it will happen. But you have to keep you.
You have to put in the work, and you were
doing just that.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Yeah, and you and I will say this, you cannot
care what other people think because there was a time
where people would roll their eyes like I cannot believe
Haley's posting this or she wants to do this, And honestly,
my Instagram was my resume for you, Like you would
have never even considered me for this had you not
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Because I wouldn't have known much about you other than
our friend Jackie right and knowing all the amazing things
she says has said about you. But that's on a
friendship level that work capacity.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, so do you boo.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
So in wanting people to get to know you, I
think I would love for you to do four things gratitude,
so four things you're currently thankful for, and then also
share after that four things that you're just really into. Okay,
(11:03):
I would love for you to do four things gratitude,
so four things you're currently thankful for, and then also
share after that four things that you're just really into.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Okay, out of the gate, I'm very grateful for this opportunity.
And I know that's like obvious, but I am. I'm
very very grateful for that. I am grateful for my health,
I am grateful for my family, and I'm very.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Grateful for the city of Nashville. I really am.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
It's been a very big blessing for my family, for
everyone in my family.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
We are thriving here.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
That's huge because I think when you moved from the
Sippy you were thinking things are not going well and
we need.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
To be I mean, it was kind of no, this
is one of those things I'm gonna butcher. But is
it fight or flight? Flight or fight? What is the saying?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Well, I don't know the saying that that's one of
the there's fight flight freeze.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Well, it was kind of like, I mean, in all seriousness,
my marriage was not great.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Okay, you mean you're either gonna fight for your marriage
or you're gonna run for it.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, we're dipping. Yeah we're done. Yeah okay.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
And I kind of told him like, this is where
my soul belongs and we're going and you can come
with me or you can stay here. And my husband's
not very big on change, and so he decided to
fight for it and we came and honestly, he was
scared the most, Like he is thriving.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
He loves it here.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
So yeah, it's been the best decision we could have
ever made.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
So that's four things you're thankful for? And what are
you into?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I am very into country music, and I am very
into live country music.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I really really am into concerts.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I'm really into Bravo as you know, I'm going to
Bravo Conn in November, and it'll be my first time
going to Vegas.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Very excited about that. I think you're gonna have so
much fun. I am tempted to join you.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Come on.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
The problem is the weekend before that is Kat's bachelorette party,
and I don't think I can be gone two weekends
in a row.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Those are big weekends.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Oh yeah, well, I'll follow your I'll follow your Instagram
and pretend I'm at Bravo Con because will any of
the vander Pump Rules people be there.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Well, you know Rachel or Raquelle whatever she's going by now,
she's you know, not resigned her contract. She will no
longer be on vanderpumt Rules, which hey, nobody hears.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Also, do you think that Andy and John Mayer are dating?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I mean I have a whole theory. I mean, they
swear that they've never but I think there has been
something before. I mean I would be shocked, but I
mean I'm here for it.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Okay. So third thing, third.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Thing that I'm into is walks. I walk every single day.
It's a big thing for my mental health. And like,
if it's raining or blistering hot, I have a treadmill
and I go upstairs. And and the funny thing about
that is I will never run on pavement, but I
will run my socks off on a treadmill.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
So you're listening to something, are you in silence or all? Right?
So I used to listen to things until this is weird.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
But do you remember the Idaho murder back in like
what November?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I mean, who doesn't remember?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
But yeah, I got like obsessively obsessed with I don't
know the best way to say that, but yeah, I
was like really into it. Like I was having nightmares,
Like we got ring cams put on every angle of
my house.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I got like into it.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
And so, okay, So you're into it in an unhealthy
way where you're totally consumed by it, to it and
affecting your everyday life thinking this could happen to you.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
In one aspect, it was good that I was not
so naive to the world, right, But on the other hand,
it was like, Okay, you have to come up for air, Haley.
You know, you have to get on with life. But
I was just not into true crime before that, and
now I love it. So I stopped listening to anything
with headphones on, and then I just kind of realized, Hey,
it's actually really nice to hear.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
The birds chirp.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
So I either go with nothing or I go with
a girlfriend and we talk and catch up, and it's
really a nice just like call it meditation, call it
whatever you want, but that's like an intentional time of
my day where I go at least for an hour.
Especially a big part of my job is on the phone.
There's nothing more gut punching than on Sunday. I kind
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of figure out how to turn that off. But like
on Sundays when you're like your average rate is nine
hours today, and I'm like, oh my, at nine hours
every day this week, or you've improved you only spent
eight hours a day on your phone, I'm like, oh
my goodness. You know, so a daily walk for me
to be intentional about not having a phone is clutch.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I definitely have experienced the mental health benefits of that,
and even Birch chirping. There's science that backs up that
that's good for you to hear. And even if I
can get ten minutes, you know, sometimes an hour sounds
intimidating or it's just more so can you get outside
and have that recharge, or can you go eat your
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lunch outside? Even just getting vitamin D and being with
nature can be so beneficial. And I had not thought
about if you have a headphones in, how you can't
be prepared or aware.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Oh girl, somebody can walk up straight behind you and
you don't hear them at all. Okay, yeah, right now
I've just scared everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Well, no, it's I think it's stocking headphones just went down.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I think I actually have seen a post where if
you have the earbuds in, just keep it in one
ear and that way your other ear.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I tried it and it just bugged me. Okay, you
need it.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I'm on all or nothing, like my therapist tells me
often like gray as a color, you know, like everything
doesn't have to be black or white.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
But it's just it's something I'm working on.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Because what's your Enneagram number? I'm an eight in every
definition of the sense. Eights are pretty black and white
very much so, and so I'm working on it, but
it's good for me to just see the gray. And
I'll tell you something else I've learned about myself in
the last year. I didn't realize how the way I
talk to myself was so intense. I mean, I'm an
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intense person. I'm very extreme, but like you just said,
sometimes an hour can seem overwhelming overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Well, I used to and this.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
You know, Amy and I were talking earlier about postpartum
and we can get into that. But I used to say,
and this goes with the gray area. I used to think, well,
if I can't do an hour, I'm just not gonna
do it at all because ten minutes and I would
literally say to myself, you're a loser. You're a loser
if you only did ten minutes. But actually ten minutes
is better than zero minutes, you know. And so now
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it's like, if I can't do an hour, I'll just
go do what I feel like doing. And if I
go out there and it's too blistering hot, because we're
in we've been in it. I feel like we've been
in a heat advisory for all of summer. But like
if I go out there and I decide it's too hot.
I'm just kind of like taken the pressure off of
it and I just turn around and go home.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But I used to would not do that.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I really would beat myself up so bad that I
was a loser.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Well, and right now we're using walking as an example,
But is that with it any task or project, Like
if you can't find a hundred percent list, like it's not.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
But I would back like it would backfire because then
I would just not start, Like if I knew I
couldn't start, I wouldn't I mean, if I couldn't finish,
I just wouldn't start, and then I would feel even worse.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I mean, it was just a really nasty cycle.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
What do you think is like one thing that you
shifted that helped you besides just being encouraged to see
the gray area. But if there's somebody else that's like,
oh my gosh, that's me I am that way, Is
there any I mean thing that worked for you.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
If I'm getting I always say this is like coffee
shop moments where I like snap, I've had a big
therapy journey in the last three years and it all
just went to like I mean this is deep, but
like I took it back like years like twenty your childhood,
like how I was spoken to. I mean, I have
like crazy stories for my childhood, but it was like
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how I was allowed. I mean, when you're a kid,
I mean, what are you really allowed to be spoken to?
But it was like what I thought was normal to
be spoken to, which turned into how I spoke to myself,
which was like years of habits to learning new techniques
to breaking habits.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's been a journey.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
It's been a journey, but it's like I'm so grateful
for the journey because my life.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Has improved immensely.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, I mean I just a little bit that I
know from you and and the hard work that you've done.
And yeah, sometimes it might be addressing something that happened
last week, but then you realize, oh, well, that thing
that happened last week probably only really happened because of
that thing from when I was ten. If you're willing
to go there, then that's when the deep healing can happen.
(19:44):
You can actually, yeah, change course and start to see
the gray or for you, whatever the case is, Like
why am I so rigid? Or why is my self
talk so negative, I'll always go to the root. Yeah,
we can just say all day long here, And we
tried to be as encourage as possible, especially having Kat,
a therapist, as a co host of the fifth thing
of you know, let's talk more positively to ourselves.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Let's not do that. But that's not because we have
it all figured out.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
It's just because the science behind that is that we
know mentally were it's going to be better for our health.
But then why is it that we talked to ourselves
that way? And let's dig a little deeper and then
you can become aware, and having awareness is is everything because.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Sometimes you don't even realize you're doing it. Yes, you
like lash out at other people. I think that's how
I like pinpointed it. I was really unkind to other people,
an example, my husband, and then I was really unkind
to my children. And then I think what really kind
of started flagging it was I was really unkind to
my children and everything I hated about my childhood. I
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had a really abusive stepfather, which I want to I
want to be very clear. The person my mother is
married to now is wonderful. It's not the stepfather I
grew up with. But I was who I hated, and
that was like a red flag for me. But it
was projection, you know, like I'm looking at Amy, like
am I saying that? Right? But I was projecting onto
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my children how I felt inside. And so then it
just kind of you know, it's not like you walk
into a therapist office and it's like, huh, I got
it all figured out.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I'm gonna be so nice tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
But I realized I was saying all these things to them,
but it was really actually saying it to myself.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And anyway, just on that that's exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
How I get I mean certain things I've said to
certain people. Once I've done the work, I realized, oh,
I only said that to them because it's literally how
I feel about myself or vice versa, painful things that
have been said to me. Come to find out, Oh,
I actually have grace and compassion. Doesn't mean you can
be spoken to anyway that by this is just my
own personal experience. It's like, oh, I have room for
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forgiveness in that situation because I know that that person
was hurting and they were literally telling me all the
things they actually felt about themselves. And I was the
recipient of it, So okay, I'll deep there so I
can't remember where we are. On things that you like,
Like you like walking, Yeah, sorry, y'all.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
We like therapy.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, so share two more things that help us get
to know you that you're into.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Cooking is also very therapeutic for me, even if I
don't eat it. I'm one of those people that like,
if I'm bored, I will just go in the pantry
and just like joy your child's it.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
So I love it.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Like when I was a kid, I would take potatoes
and slice them up and pretend I was on a
cooking show and fry them or bake them or like
bubble Gump with true.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Hey, maybe you'll have a a potato show one day. Yeah,
Hailey D's potato potatoes.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
So Sharon, I made a potato soup the other night
that is really easy, really good. I mean it was
like frozen hash browns but cubed not shredded, and you
just saw those in a pot with cream of chicken soup,
some cream cheese, some shredded cheese, chicken stock, and you
just left that simmer for a few hours and.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
People ask you, and I would be curious to know
what yours is But people ask you. They'll they're say,
what is your food that you're taking on an island?
You know, like, if you're stranded, I'm taking a potato.
You could do a lot with a potato if you're
stranded on an islon.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Okay, because you can do a mashed potato and new bakedotato,
your French fry and potato tot You've already got a
whole hand. What else can you can have something different
every day of the week routine. But but then you
have nothing else to go with it. It's just a potato?
Does it come with butter inside? You're making this complicated? Okay, sorry, okay,
well what are you going to take? I mean, not
an orange?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Not like you know what I'm like, Maybe there's like
I mean, I'm sorry if I fend like a vegetarian,
but maybe there's like livestock on the island and there's
your protein.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I mean, you're stranded, I'm taking a potato.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I've always said, I I feel like I want Queso
chips and what.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Are you gonna what's what's your shovel well chips?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
But it comes to together, No, not on this island. Okay,
So literally.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
You know what, you and I could go together and
I've got your chips. Well, now I'll take the case
and dip a potato in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're together. Yes, okay,
all right, okay, we're a perfect match, are Okay?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
The classic what do you take on an island? What
beauty product would you take that's a food? Like, what's
one thing that you can't live without? What beauty product
would you take that's a food? Like, what's one thing
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that you can't live without?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Tended moisturizer, Like I said, we're on an island, we
need to protect our skin. Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
One. I really like.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Tart products I have like in tell A shade. But
I'm open to trying new things.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Saying like I used to never have sensitive skin, and
then I had a full blown hysterectomy when I was
thir three, and it changed everything because I'm on hormone
replacements because it put me into full blown menopause and
that's too young to be in menopause or your body
goes crazy. And the medicine just changed my DNA and
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so now I have really sensitive It's weird. I have
not sensitive skin to cleaning products, but I have very
sensitive skin to make up, Like I can't wear Walgreen's
foundation or anything anymore because it will cause you, like,
it'll break me out. Okay, it's wild, though. I had
to like relearn everything about my body.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Nothing against the corner of happy and healthy, but.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Just any kind of oh yeah, it's not a maybe
a more we get we like Bethany Frankel. You know,
she has that little series on her Instagram where she
tries drugstore products, and I kind of went down that
rabbit hole and tried several of her things, and I
was really excited about it because look, I love boogie
on a budget. I'm here for it. And so many
of the products broke me out. But then I would
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try all of her creams that she like. This Laurel
midnight cream that's like thirty dollars from Target is one
of my favorite products. It's like a night cream and
like the face wash as Pond's cold cream like everybody's
grandmother uses. I will die using that stuff. It's five
dollars for tube get your makeup off in one wipe.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh okay, I'm gonna have to try it. It's incredible.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I like Saravey from the drug store. I use their products,
their foaming cleanser. They have a great lotion. I use
that on my body. But why has directed me at
thirty three? I started my period when I was ten
years old. Amy, I've done my time, right, Wow? I
was fourteen.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah. Yeah, everybody's like, h I was in college or whatever.
Yeah I was.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I'm like, well, yeah, ten years old, so obviously I
was the first of my friends.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
It was terrible. I had PCs.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I had endometriosis adnomiosis where it's like the lining of
your wall on the inside and the outside. I had
horrible periods, would be a kneemic. I mean it would
literally keep me from doing things. I was crippled by it.
Literally I would be hospitalized.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
For like my migraines.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
It was just like horrible, and it got worse, significantly
worse after I had children, and after my second child,
we kind of knew we were done having babies, and
I was crazy, Like I was just hormonally. Hormonially, I
was unstable and I knew it. I could feel it.
Isn't that the.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Worst when you're I feel the times when I've been
reacting hormonally, it's like I literally know how crazy I'm
being and there's nothing to do, do not care, Like, no,
I'm gonna go ahead and whatever. Send the sext, say
this thing, do the same throughout the saying I mean,
and then later I'm like.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You're ashamed.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, you know that song Chris Stapleton sings, I got
nobody to blame me or whatever, and she goes she
took all my whiskey and poured it down the drain
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I did that.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I poured a whole bottle of Scotch whiskey down the
drain in one of my like crazy episodes because John
was like, looked at me wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I was like, so you just grabbed his whiskey and
said take this.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
It was like crazy like and it was not a
twenty dollars bottle of Scotch whiskey either.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It was like, I think it was one of the
bottles he'd gotten.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
When he like made partner. Somebody really splurged and I
just was like, watch me. Yeah, I mean, I was crazy.
Yeah it was not.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I looked listen, I'm not even I didn't even have
what you know. I was diagnosed with PMDD in college.
So I feel like some of that, I don't know,
shifted hormone. I got better, and then somewhere later on
the line like hormones, but then some of it. I
also think I was wanting to blame hormones and really
I just needed to do a lot of work on myself.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
And then one combination did the therapy right.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And now I'm they say, they say, my guy in
necologist says perimenopausal. But I feel that times when it's
coming and I'm like, what is happening? I don't know,
and I'm not sleeping right and my mouth is dry.
Everyone keeps telling me menopause is coming. I mean, I'm
forty two. So yeah, you at thirty three, having two
(29:18):
young kids and then having some of these symptoms that you're.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Like, what the heck? Well, I went in originally to
have the oblasion. That's what my doctor recommended, which is
like would eliminate having a period. Right, They go in
and like freeze everything out. So in order to have that,
you have to go in for like a pre op sonogram.
And when I went in for that, there was a tumor.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
It was none nine. Yeah, there we go. I'm not
laughing at that.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I'm laughing at that I didn't know the word for it,
but she was like, you're no longer a candidate for this.
You know, it tells us that this is hormonal and
that this is you know, some women are options for
that and it changes their whole life, but I was
no longer younger a candidate for that. So we quickly realized, Okay,
now we have to go to Plan B, and that
is take everything.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
And yeah, I mean, it changed my life for the better.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
But it was not like, Okay, she got a hysterectomy
and then the next day.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Everything was great.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
So like the first couple weeks, they couldn't put me
on hormones right away because you're at higher risk for
blood clots because of the hormones. So I had to
experience I mean, it put me into immediate menopause the
second they took all my ovaries and everything. So for
the first two weeks, I had to experience full blown
menopause at thirty three, and it's brutal. And I'm thirty
(30:40):
three and I have no body that's my age to
like coach.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Me through this.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
The only people that have been through this are my
mom's age, and when they went through it, they didn't
have a two year old and a four year old
you know what I'm saying, or a new you know
what I'm saying, like they are not on the same
it was. It was a very unique situation and it
was horrible, truly.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I don't wish it on anyone, and I.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Had a lot of friends that were not necessarily I mean,
I understand it, and it worked out the way it
was supposed to. But that was when the I told
you I had a friend cleanse. I lost a lot
of friends in the process because I was just in
a rut trying to like figure out what the new
normal was for me.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
But I was I was on it, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
I thought I was going to magically be uncrazy after that,
and then I went to a whole new level of
crazy because now my body is completely different.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
And people warning about the hot flashes.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Girl, it's like someone lights a fire on your bones
and you could go stand in the refrigerator in costco
butt naked and it's not helping.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
It's like your bones are on fire.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
And my mom she like sat beside my bed and
would be like, it's just gonna last for two minutes.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And she was right. I mean, one hundred and twenty
seconds and then they was gone.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
So literally, hot flash and I'm talking on fire hot yeah,
and then it just goes away. And so once you
know that two week period was gone, I started on
the patch and I would remember to change it on
Sundays and Wednesdays because we went to church on Sundays
and Wednesdays. And then COVID hit and nobody knew what
day it was, so yeah, that messed everything up. And
(32:21):
so then I went down a crazy path because I
couldn't remember what day it was. And then I would
like look down and remember I didn't change the patch.
It's like a little sticker you put like right here
on your hip, so it then like oh shoot, yeah,
it would be like falling off and I would like
I would catch myself being mean to everybody. You're kind
of crazy, and I'm like, well, no, wonder I haven't
changed my hormone in three weeks. Your husband's like, yeah,
checked your path, yes, oh literally, And that would send
(32:43):
me over the edge. Amy Like, there's nothing worse than
somebody telling you to calm down.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Eve, especially when you're not about to start and they're like, oh,
are you about to start?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, are you about to die?
Speaker 3 (32:53):
And then inside you're please like begging, let me start
tomorrow anytime I've been particularly crazy. And then I do
happen to start in the next couple of days. I
sort of exhale, like, oh, okay, yeah, I'm not great.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah, and he would be right, but I would never
admit it, you know what I'm saying, Like that was
just a bad time.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I mean I was like for everything.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
I was like one stip away from the Betty Ford
Center too, Like I was drinking all the time, and
it was just not a good look for me. Then
I got on a pill like a it's called primerin
I think that's what it's called.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
And it's been very successful for me.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
So now because I already take twenty seven pills every morning,
so I was like, what's one more? And now I
consistently take it. So I take a hormone pill every
single day, and now it's fully in my system and
I'm regulated. So between a hormone and you know, therapy,
I'm only.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Thirty percent crazy.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
And what do they tell you if you can just
get it thirty percent right, you're good? Yep, you know,
I say, I'm cooking with grease, and John's like, you're
cooking with gas.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
You're saying it wrong. But yees, so I'm cooking with something,
cooking with something.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Well, I know in the mix of that conversation, you
brought up the friend clanse and that was part of
our six hour hang or whatever it was at my
house and two of my friends that were here, they
were just here hanging out and they got to know you.
And now y'all have like a group text together and
I'm on it. Y'all are all texting about things, and
so it's interesting, you know how people come into your life.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
And those are two friends.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
One of them is an adopted mom that came into
my life because we have kids the same age.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Oh is that how y'all became friends? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Oh I love that, yep, because we both adopted. We
were during COVID actually had done a news segment together
about being white parents to black kids, and we were
on the same segment, but it was zoom, so we
weren't in studio. And then I was hiking one day
and she happened to be the same trail and she
(34:48):
came up and introduced herself in person, and then we
just started talking started talking about our kids similar things.
She invited me to this adopted mom's group and told
me about it on Facebook, and then they meet in
person anyways, the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So, yeah, we became friends. That's how.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
And then Kat the other cat Cryocat, I met her
at something therapeutic that I was doing for myself during COVID,
which was cryotherapy the three minutes of negative two hundred
and twenty.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I want to try that. Oh yeah, I'll take you cryocat. Well, yeah,
she'll do it for you.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
So I think we got to therapy was one of
your things you're into. Maybe just throw out a fourth
thing in case we haven't covered it that you're into.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I think we covered all of the four things you
were about to say, getting into postpartum most partum well.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Because we Yeah, I wanted to circle back to the
friendship cleanse that you'd me about. Yeah, and then also
you read my mind. I also wanted to circle back
because we also talked that day about postpartum and your
experience with that. So I feel like that's a whole
nother episode of people would like to hear that, and
y'all can send emails. Four Things with Amy Brown gmail
(36:00):
dot com. And I'm just excited to have Haley on
the team. And I'm excited that she's going to get
to know y'all and y'all are going to get to
know her. And it's not like you always hear her voice,
but just know that she's always around, always here. She's
always a lurking. I tell my kids, they'll be like,
how do you know? And I'm like, I know everything. Yeah,
I am always watching. But don't make her mad. She
might put your favorite thing down the drain.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
All Teresa Judai is flip the table if you.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Know, you know, yeah, Bravo or if you're going to
Bravo con hit her up.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Absolutely, she might see you there.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I have another fun announcement, which is a special Acting
as If four part series that is going to be
released on September fourth. That's a Monday, So in just
a few days, on Monday, the twenty eighth of August,
you're going to hear the trailer for Acting as If.
But I'll give you a heads up of what it
(36:51):
is about. And positive thinking alone is not going to
cut it in certain areas.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I don't know if you can relate to that.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
You think you're on thinking positively, but nothing's really happening.
And I invited my friend and self image scientist Leeann
Ellington to sit down with me for a very doable
approach to helping us claim the reins of confusing thoughts
that are in our mind, you know, those loops, the
(37:19):
negative thinking. I really want myself, I want Haley. I
want everybody listening to be able to step into who
you want to be. And I want you to know
that that is actually possible. So if you're feeling stuck,
if you're battling self doubt, if you want to take
ownership of your life, ownership of your thoughts, well, Acting
(37:40):
as If is a four part series that literally is
for you. And we designed it into four parts, not
because it's the Four Things podcast, like a bonus series,
but there are literally four guideposts to this whole Acting
as If, and I promise you'll be able to learn it,
grasp it. You can start using it implementing it right away.
(38:01):
And even if you're someone that's like, eh, this sounds
like positive thinking Acting as If. I've tried that before,
it's never worked for me in the past. I want
you to listen to how Leanne breaks this down into
the four parts, and we're releasing all four episodes on Monday,
the fourth, because we want you to have them all
in a row, but we wanted it to be digestible,
so you can listen to one and then take it in,
(38:22):
and then listen to the other one you're ready and
take it in and not have to wait a week
apart for each thing.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
And it's labor Day, so you'll have plenty of time
to listen.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, labor on yourself. Yeah, you can work on yourself
and start acting as If. I have used acting as
If multiple times. I'm currently still using it in other
areas of my life. For some of you, maybe it'll
only be useful once. I feel like a lot of you,
it's going to be useful in multiple areas of your life.
And you're going to realize even if you take a
few steps backwards in something, you're like, oh, I got
(38:50):
my Acting as If four guideposts in my toolbox. I
can bust these out and we can rewire our brains.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
And that's the.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Beauty of it. I want you to act as if
you are worthy of the job that you want, Okay, right, Hayley, Yes, yes, yes,
act as if it is normal for you to order
a pizza and not think about it five hundred different
times that you can't believe you ordered the Pizzai, Why
are you eating the pizza? You should be eating a salad.
That was in my eating disorder recovery. Is the first
(39:18):
n I'd ever even heard of acting as if, and
that was the first time I trained my brain in
that way. And then as of late earlier this year,
I was working through acting as if for worthiness and
knowing that I am worthy, but like really believe. You
can't just be like I am worthy as an affirmation.
You know, the aff me I am worthy, you are worthy? Great,
(39:40):
we can hear that, but you have to do the
four guide posts. You have to think it, you have
to feel it, you have to believe it, and you
have to do it. If you don't have that recipe,
that's not going to work. You can say those affirmations
all day long, and that's true.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
So I'm very, very, very very excited about the series.
If you can't tell, and on Monday the twenty to
get the trailer, and then the following Monday, on Labor Day,
the fourth, you will get all four parts and then
leanne Ellington also has her own podcast coming out soon,
and I can't wait to tell.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Y'all all about that. It's called What's God Got to
Do with It? Whats God got to do?
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Got to do with It?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I won't even planned, y'all. I love that you are.
You are your singer. I told you my life is
a musical.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
I will just breakout and song all the time, and
that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I'm here for like that is going to start happening,
So I'll tell y'all about that coming up soon. And
then there's with acting as if Leannellington dot com slash
acting as if she's going to have all these free
resources for you to go and check out that will
be helpful and go along with each episode. This is
(40:50):
something we are very passionate about people getting, especially women,
because I feel like we have a lot of false
narratives going on in our minds at any given moment
about various things, and we need to start acting as
if we belong to be here because we do.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
If you've seen Barbie, you know you get it. You
don't have to ask it. You haven't. I know, I
know I've got to see it. You're miss pop culture,
I know, at least tell me to see it. I've
got to see it.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Okay, Well, thank you Hailey for coming on. So happy
to be here introducing yourself. Thank you for helping me.
I'm already thanking you in the future. Yeah, this is
like free tweet future gratitude for I think everything that
you're going to bring to my life. I already told
you the other day that I was instantly energized by you.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Same.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
It's a mutual feeling, mutual, there's reciprocity here for sure.
Hailey again, where can people find you at at Hailey
Dollar Had And she's going to also be running at
Women of Our Heart Country. And then she's also helping
me get a handle on social media because I've been
fighting that fight for a long time, Like I don't
(41:58):
I don't know, but I've looked.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
To We're just elevating it a little bit. She's still
in charge of her own stuff. I'm just helping her
elevate her look a little bit. She's a cheerleader and
a lot of it is cleaning her up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
So if you're seeing that change, I am excited about it,
and I'm grateful for Haley's expertise and input.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
And also I want to clarify that you are helping me.
You're teaching me all kinds of things.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Oh good, Yeah, okay, yeah see, And I guess we'll
close with that.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, I have a great week, have the day that
you need to have.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yes, as our lovely Catfata likes to say, and again,
email four things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com.
Love to hear from you and on socials. I am
at radio Amy, but don't be surprised by what you
see there because we're up in the game.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
We're gonna keep you on your toes. Bye.
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