May 16, 2023 • 33 mins
Today's quote is from Annie Gottlier: "When some things go wrong, take a moment to be thankful for the many things that are going right." Amy pulled this from the '4 Things Gratitude Journal' along with this one from Jessica Honniger: "What if all you ever wanted is what you have right now? Gratitude is the byproduct of contentment." Both quotes are so good...Jessica's got Amy thinking about contentment and what that really means. Her favorite definition of it is: peaceful satisfaction!!! However, she did NOT have peaceful satisfaction the other day when she found out how much it was going to cost to fix the leaking pipe at her house OR when she realized there were raisins in her oatmeal cookies. Kat gives her opposing stance on raisins and they both share 4 things they are grateful for in this episode. Focusing on gratitude is a game changer. It doesn't ignore the situation, but redirects things.....to get back to that peaceful satisfaction faster!
They also go over a couple of listener emails from Julie and Katie. Julie wanted to get the 'Lucky Days' poem that Amy's sister, Cristi wrote because she wants to frame it in her house. It's such a special poem, so Amy decided to read it again for those that have never heard it or may need to hear it again. Katie wanted to know where to get the buffalo necklace that was mentioned a few weeks ago!
Hope you enjoy the episode & have the day you need to have!
HOSTS:
@Kat.Defatta // @YouNeedTherapyPodcast
P.S. The '4 Things Gratitude' journal is a great way to practice gratitude and a thoughtful gift for someone too! ALL proceeds go to Project Medishare in Haiti where they provide education for children and prenatal and postnatal care for moms & babies. Haiti is really suffering right now, so they could use our help. If the journal is something you've been thinking about getting...now is the time. There are two cute color combo options. Click HERE to see them!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat and today's quote is from
our Four Things Gratitude journal. I came across it the
other day when I was journaling, and I loved it
so much that I took a screenshot and knew I
wanted to save it for the Fifth Thing. And it's
from Annie Gottlier, and she said, when some things go wrong,
take a moment to be thankful for the many things
that are going right.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So good, I think it just helps me pivot faster.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
When I do that, I still want to acknowledge whatever
I'm in because I don't want to waste that whatever
I want to be like, this sucks, but then also
look at all these things that.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Don't Yeah, which is good because I feel like, personally me,
I think a lot of people do this when something
goes wrong, it's all you can focus on. Usually that's
not that everything isn't going wrong at the same time.
Sometimes it is, but.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Not everything ycause I've been trying to really not speak
in absolutes because I can do that and I know
I'm not being serious, but I also just don't want
to say it because then it makes it feel heavier
than it is, like you always do this or you
never do that.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
And that's not ever really true, right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So absolutes, try to pay attention to it if you're
listening right now. In your daily conversation with your people,
especially a significant other, that's where I think sometimes it
may come up because there's you know, if you've been
together a while and there's certain frustrations and you may
be having maybe your next argument, pay attention if you
use absolutes, because that's not fair. Yeah, And I mean
(01:40):
I definitely can do that, so I'm there's no shame
I'm saying. It's something I'm working on, but it could
probably help not make everything worse. And then pay attention
if your partner is saying absolutes, and because I feel good,
it doesn't feel good, and you can be like, oh hey,
but then.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
You don't want to tell people what to do.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Ben and I a conversation the other day, and you know,
we have co parenting stuff, and he was speaking in
a way that I didn't want those thoughts in my head,
like I was taking a different approach, and I even
if we were still married, I can't tell him what
to do. But especially can tell what to do now,
like that would.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Just be so annoying.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But also I can still be in control of what
words and energy I want around me, And so I
just said, hey, what's really been working for me lately
is this approach, and so I'm trying to like stay
on that way. So if you want to operate that way,
that's great, but like, don't say it around me, because
(02:40):
that might be working for him.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I like that, Like instead of saying I hate when
you do this, you could just say, hey, what I've
learned is this has really been working well for me,
or hey, I've learned I respond really well to this language,
versus you always say it like that I hate when.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You do that.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I could have said, and I think older younger me,
old old me, which also was younger mean, would have
said you should do this or this is the way
to do it, and it's it may not be for him,
and he received it well because I just shared this
is what's working for me, and I would like to
(03:18):
keep it that way. Yeah, and right now you're killing
that vibe, which when it comes to gratitude, you mind
sharing four things you're thankful for. We haven't done four
things grated with you in.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
A while, I would love to.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
So the first one that's coming to my brain is
our wedding coordinator with our two people, but they're they're
business names, simply Golden because we've saved like triple the
amount of money that we paid for them by them
just giving us recommendations for things and us not knowing that,
like this isn't the normal price to pay for something
like that.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
So they're amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Whenever you say their name or whatever, I instantly the
Harry Styles song pops in my head.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
What it's all so golden?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
That's her styles?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, it so good because isn't that.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Is that on a commercial?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Interesting? Probably all right, well maybe that can be their
theme song.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Simply God.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, they're amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And then the other things that are coming to mind
won my sister because she's been just helping me a
lot with my anxiety around some of this stuff, and
she's just a good sister.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
So is she your second thing?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
That's my second thing, yes, yeah, And then my third
thing would be Trader Joe's not everybody has a Trader
jos by them, but if you do and you haven't been,
you need to go. I used to do all my
grocery shopping there, like that was it if I couldn't
find it Trader Joe's, and I wasn't having it. However,
I've been grocery shopping with Patrick and he likes another
grocery store, and so I finally was like, can we
go back to my thing just once?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
This is what's working for me, I said.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
You know, what I've.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Found is that it really works well for me when
I go to Trader Joe's on Sunday mornings, and I
forgot how much easier that place makes cooking dinner because
they have so many things that it can feel like
you made a meal, but really you just like put
some things together that they already had made or they
are frozen. And that has just saved my life because
the last thing I really want to do at night
(05:15):
is cooked dinner.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And oh my god, so I feel like produce is
cheaper there too.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Everything is cheaper there.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
You can get a jar salsa for like four or
five dollars at the other grocery store, two dollars at
Trader Joe's. Mhm, it's insane. Why wouldn't we be going there?
And they have the flowers and the plants, and the
people that check people out are so kind.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, just the parking lots annoying.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Not the one by my house. Well, it's huge. I
haven't been to that one yet, so we can go together. Really,
I like it last time I went. Besides saving a
little bit on produce. Then I have to drive there
and try to find Okay, I'll go to yours, because
you say it's a bigger parking lot, but I think
of the time I'm trying to loop around trying to
find a spot. And then I'm like, I'm doing all
this to save a dollar on spinach.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Like I'll just go to.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
The but every week there's that's fifty two dollars, isn't
there fifty two weeks in a year.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
But also I've been obsessed lately with the Tailor Farms
chopped salad.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And they have salad kits, though they don't have those ones.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, but I like the chopped and I like, I
don't know, I love all the Tailor Farms flavor ones,
and I'm I don't know, I'm loyal.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I feel like I will say that was something that
was lacking because we've gotten in the mode of buying
the bag chopped salads and they only had like three
different flavors at Treaderdo's. But I'm still grateful for them, Okay.
And then that was three.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Next time y'all make the taco soup or taco chicken salsa. Yeah, well,
there is a taco soup recipe that I have, but
chicken salsa, which is so easy to make. All you
do in a crockpot is shredded or chew chicken breast.
Put it in the crockpot with a can of salsa
and a can of black beans and let it do
its thing, and then you shred it, right, you and
big p you like it, okay, And then you can
(06:52):
make some rice and then avocado and make these bowls
and it's a whole thing. Next time you do that,
get the Tailor Farms Nash hot salad kits.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Oh that does not sound like it goes.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Oh, no, it goes.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
We always get the avocado ranch one.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Okay, that goes that.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah that goes too.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, either will work.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Okay, okay, avocado ranch, I could see how that goes
as well. And then crumble chips up on top, oh
for sure. Always that was three things. So my fourth
thing would be have you ever been to Bobby's daridap.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Oh No, but I see people post about it.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Oh okay, So we'll go to Twitter Joe's and then
we'll go to Bobby's because we went for the first
time this year and it is so good. It's like
a walk up like old style, little like ice cream shop.
They have like hamburgers and hot dogs and stuff. But
I got one of those dipped chocolate cones like soft
serve and then they dip it in the chocolate and
it gets hard.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
It made my whole week.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
If you're ever in Nashville, if you live here or go,
but if you're visiting, because a lot of people visit Nashville.
I mean this this weekend, I feel like five million
people are here. Yeah, all the time. Like there's bachelorette parties,
there's like any kind of party, medical conventions, there's the music.
There's so much that brings people to Nashville.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So Bobby's Bobby's Dairy dep in West Nashville, there was
a long line down the sidewalk wait to wait for
like a whole fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Since we're still talking about gratitude, my friend Jessica honegher
she put a quote in our latest Gratitude Journal, and
it's so good. Since we're still talking about gratitude, my
(08:36):
friend Jessica Honeger, she put a quote in our latest Gratitude.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Journal, and it's so good.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Like I keep saying in my head over and over, contentment, contentment, contentment,
because she had that in the quote, like hers is
what if all you ever wanted is what you have
right now. Gratitude is the byproduct of contentment. It's like contentment,
what is contentment? And then it got me curious, so
I look up the definition of contentment. Of course there's
like a few different ones, but my favorite one is
(09:04):
peaceful satisfaction.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
That sounds so nice.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
So gratitude is the byproduct of peaceful satisfaction, of contentment.
It's like you're content with where you are and whatever
is happening. Because even when things go wrong, like my
water bill was really really high and crazy for several
months and we could not figure it out.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
But I what, I feel like this has happened to
you before though, where like your water bill was like crazy,
hih and you had to call the people.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yes, it's been high for we haven't been able to
figure it out. We've had because it's been going on
for this long. That's why you feel like, is this
happening again. No, I've just been continuing to pay high
water bills except for the month of December it went
down to ninety so we thought we fixed it.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
That still sounds like a lot for water.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, but some of my bills have been five or
six hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Oh oh, I know you're not saying that.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well, what else a I supposed to do? The water
companies can come after me.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I have to give the ducks somewhere to live that
you have at your house now.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yes, and so we've had I've had the water company
out multiple times. I've had a new meter put in,
I had plumbers come out, and I did all the
Do you remember when I put kool aid in my toilet.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
And that the water company is saying, like, this can't
be right.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Well, sometimes when I was on the phone with them,
I'm like you do you do understand that? Like something
has to be wrong? And they're like, uh, your bill's
doing a week. I don't know, like it just they
were very nice, but it's ultimately if they can't.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Figure out the problem.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I'm the homeown oction. It's on me, so I had
to take responsibility. So I finally found this special leak
detection group and they came out and did it and
they were able to find it, like within twenty minutes.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Where was it?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So is this part in the front of my house.
There's this dip in the yard that where it goes down,
and there's also a I don't know what you call it,
a lid there where you can get into the ground
like a metal lid and you open it up and
you can get to some pipes and stuff. So I
had seen water gather there before, and I even told
the water company that and they told me it was
(11:11):
brain and so I never really looked into it. I
just was like, well, it hasn't even rained, but there's
still water there. But oh well, maybe it's still there
from the last time it rained. I don't know all
this to say, we got it fixed. So the leak
detection people they found it there. It was a pipe.
I had a teeny I talked about this on the
Bobby Bone Show, but I like two weeks ago, but
(11:31):
I know you don't listen, So it's fine.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
The sorry you said that, like, I know you don't
care about what I do for a living.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
It's okay, I don't listen in on your therapy sessions.
There was a hole the size of a pinhole and
it was leaking like half a gallon of water per minute.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So that's why my water bill was so crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And that was a very frustrating time, like even still
the last week or so, because I had to pay
the bill to have it fixed, which was pricey. But
I know that the money I'm going to save on
my future expensive water bills, it's gonna obviously it was
the right choice to pay the large sum of money
to have it fixed. And then eventually we'll get back
(12:12):
to normal and I'll be like, oh, this is amazing,
and we'll.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I'll be like a satisfaction.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
It'll be like it never even happened.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
But to combat my frustration, I tried to focus on
the positives of what I have to be grateful for,
Like I have water that flows freely into my house
that is safe to drink. Yes, it is leaking a
lot to permit it, but I have water and some
people do not. I am thankful for that pipe or
(12:39):
whatever then that when I think of the water running
into my house, then my brain's like, oh wow, I'm
thankful for this house, and I'm thankful for and then
you know it, just it piggybacks and then you can
find similar to the quote at the beginning, like focus
on what's going right, Like I can get hung up
on the water and how much I had to spend
this month on it or lat month or all these months,
(13:02):
or I can focus on what is going right and
direct my attention that way so that I don't get
all in a see.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well, and as you're saying this, I'm thinking about how
Brene Brown talks about joy being a byproduct of gratitude.
So kind of what you're doing is you're creating us
a little like path like we find this peaceful satisfaction,
we find this contentment that it moves us to gratitude,
which then moves us to joy.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And so many of us sit around and.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Look at other people and are like, I want Amy's joy,
I want Susie's joy, I wish I had that life.
They look so happy when all of that is actually
stealing joy away from us. But if we look at
our lives and the things that we do have. That's
actually how you get to that place that you see
that you actually want to go.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
It's like what we were talking about at the Live
about abundance and lack. Yeah, if you're looking at someone
else for whatever what they have or that's you focusing
on the lack, but look at your abundance and then
you're going to see more abundance. Wherever you focus your
mind or your energy, your thoughts, it's where they're going
to go.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I heard Annie f Downs, this was like two years
ago probably talk on a podcast, and she said, if
I am looking at another person's life to find out
if I'm okay, I'm always going to end up wanting.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I'm never going to feel satisfied.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So yeah, and focusing on gratitude for me, that's the
game changer. And again it doesn't ignore the situation at all,
but it just redirects things to get me back to
the peaceful satisfaction, the contentment. And you know another thing
though that doesn't bring me peaceful satisfaction is raisin and cookies,
especially if I don't know that they're there.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Why would you not know, well.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Because someone made cookies and then I thought, oh, those
look like good oatmeal cookies. I don't think I see
any raisins and then I bite into it and I
get a raisin, and I'm like, well, to me, I
just don't think that raisins or walnuts or pecans maybe pecans,
let's just stick with walnuts and raisins.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
They do not belong in cookies.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Did you recently bite into a cookie that made you upset? Yes? Okay,
because I love raisins and cookies.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
My one of my favorite cookies would be an oatmeal
raisin cookie. They're so good, it's like a little pop
of sweetness in your mouth.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
No, you know that famous meme. I'm sure you've seen
it or some people even have it.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
On my shoes and stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
But like, it's oatmeal raisin cookies are the reason why
I have trust issues.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I'm the opposite.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I'm like, this is the reason I have joy and
happiness in my life.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh gosh, you're such a cookie connoisseur. I'm shocked.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I love o'meal raisin. There you had TIFFs treats I
think at the live and I was trying to find
the omeal raisin cookie.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Oh they we had an oatmeal chocolate chip. I don't
even know if they make raisin. But I definitely did
not order raisin because I wouldn't do that to people.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I wouldn't want to confuse them.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
But then there's people like me who were like, this
is the best day ever. Thank you so much for
this oatmeal raisin cookie.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
You should do a poll of sea how many people?
Because I think now it's become a thing. It's like
cool to hate on raisins.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
El Royo, you know the sign in Austin, and we
follow their Instagram. They had a sign recently that said, like,
pretty sure raisins are the only food most eaten by accident,
Poor guys.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Do you like prunes?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Okay, a prune and a racin a different No, they're
not a prune.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Isn't that like a big thing? Is that a plum
big old raisin? Yeah, but it's basically the same thing.
It's a shriveled up, you know, griep.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
But I'm not just like taking a handful of raisins
and putting in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I love I love grapes.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Raisins in like salads or stop looking at me like
I'm a psychopath.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Raisins are good. Do you like crasins? You do, don't you.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Al Ea, the crasns they're they're very different. But I
also don't want a crazin and a cookie. But I'll
give you a crasin in a salad.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
That'll be a good cookie.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
As a white chocolate crazin Macadamian nut cookie.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
That sounds delicious.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
They make those of them, especially at Christmas time or something,
because I think it's the red and the white.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, that sounds delicious. I want that in a cookie.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh gosh, I do not.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I feel like we're in a fight.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Okay, I've got an email from Julie. I've got an
email from Julie.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Amy, I'm a longtime listener, first time emailer. I can't
remember how long ago it was, but you read Christie's
poem about a penny on the podcast which is me
talking here.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Christie's my sister.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Back to the email, I was so moved by it
and would love to have it printed and framed in
my new home. I lost my mom to cancer in
twenty thirteen when I was twenty one years old, and
it reminded me of the journey I took with her.
If you wouldn't mind sharing it again, or emailing me
the full poem poem poem.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I wasn't gonna say home.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
As long as it's okay with Christy, I would be
forever grateful. Thank you for being so open with your
grief journey. It helps so many of us. Your friend
from Ohio, Julie, So Julia emailed you Lucky Days. It
should be in your inbox. But I'm also going to
read it now because it's been a minute. Have you
ever heard Lucky Days? I probably just only shared it
on the four Things episode not the thing? All right,
(18:29):
here we go, written by my sister. Christy dosher Lucky Days.
Shiny Penny on the sidewalk, little brown eyed girl holding
mama's hand. She bends right down to pick it up
and cups it like gold sifted from the sand. Her
eyes look up, and her mama looks down and says,
it's your lucky day. If these are lucky days, then
(18:49):
I want to save them up and cash them in
when things don't go my way and count them all
as blessings in my not enoughs I went to pay
good to the bad and hope to the mess. Lucky Day,
which also Julie, I'm if I copied and pasted it
the way I'm reading this right now. There are some
lines that are off if you're listening to this, But
I'll also email you because if you're printing this out
(19:11):
for your house, I want to make sure that you
have it, like how the poem.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Puem poem home, So just say poem pom poems.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
What are you doing with your mouth?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Okay, see because hold.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
On, just breathe and then do it.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Palm anyway, Julie, I want you to print it correctly.
So anyway, here we go, continuing on Shiny Penny on
the parking lot. Grown girl open in mama's door.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Frail.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Mama bends to pick it up, her body too weak
for treatment no more. The prayers went up and the
memories came down. Girl says, How's this a lucky day?
If these are lucky days that I've been saving up,
I want to cash them into day because this is hard,
hard stuff. I want to pay good to this bad
and hope to this mess. Somehow lucky days. But sometimes
(20:07):
lucky is going home home, to that eternal place where
pain's no longer something you own, where you sing of
amazing grace. Girls lie by their mama's side that bright
morning she flew away, and their eyes tear up, and
God looks down and says it's her lucky day. Yes,
these are lucky days. If you look close enough, you
(20:30):
catch a glimpse of grace somehow. And even in the
hard stuff, when that dirt road ahead is not what
you planned, get down on your knees and pray for pennies.
These are the lucky days. There's good and the bad,
and joy in the mess. These are the lucky days.
And did you see how my sister wrote in there
girls lie by their mama's side that bright morning she
(20:50):
flew away. You know last week I was telling you
my mom flew into the duck. So there you go.
That's lucky days. My sister is. She's such a good writer.
I love, I love really good. I love this work
of writing, trying not just work of art. I'm trying
not to say poem. Oh well, did I say it
(21:11):
right at the time? Just whatever normal and then say poem.
Moving on, speaking of my sister, I got another email
from Katie asking about something that was related to my sister,
So I'll share it. Hey, Amy, I love, love love
this story that your sister told her the Buffalo. I
think it's such a good reminder, especially for things that
I've gone through recently. And I would love the necklace
that she has. Do you have a link or even
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the brand if anything? Just let me know your friend
of nine years, Katie.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I love that. She said, up of nine years.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Dang, listen a long time.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
So it was a gift from her husband to replace
this other necklace that had this meaning.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So he got her the.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Fourteen year old one, which the little pricey because I
wanted to get it. I had no idea and I
was like, oh, I want to go on, I want
to match, and then I go look it up and
I'm like, maybe I'll have to wait till somebody wants
to gift it to me, or if I'm celebrating something,
I'll treat myself. They also have a silver version that
is way the price difference is night and day. So
it's the Goldenbear dot com. And the Golden Bear is
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a store like if you're familiar in Colorado, which that's
where my sister and Ben live, and this is a
shop and veil and it's got a lot of really
cute things, but they are pieces that you can have forever.
So do you know the buffalo like it's a buffalo
coin pendent.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
So if you're not familiar with when my sister was
on On Four Things a few weeks ago, to summarize it,
it's pretty much cow's run from storms and buffalo's run
towards the storm because they know that they're gonna end
up spending far less time in the storm if they
just go ahead and get through it.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Are you a buffalo or cow?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I really want to say that I'm a buffalo, but
I think I it depends on the situation.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I am a cow.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
I think most of them I'm a cow.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
But I mean I'm gonna try to be a buffalo now.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, And this is actually a good reminder because I
heard this story.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
It's not right. Storage is the fact a long time
ago I was like, oh no, no, no, that's so nice.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
But I it's nice to be reminded of it and
then to think back of like what have I been
actually doing? Have I been like bracing myself or have
I been just going forth? I think sometimes the brace
is like maybe the storm's going to stop before it
gets here.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Well, see, I also see it as like complete denial procrastination,
Like that's when you're the cow. You're like, well, I
guess I'm just gonna go this way, but the storm's
going that way anyway, but you're turning around and trying
to avoid it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
A lot of my life I spent in denial.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, and some of it was just I didn't know
what I didn't know. But then also I think a
new but I didn't want to know.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I didn't want to know, so I didn't want to
actually go into the storm and see that this is
really is reality.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Way harder to face it. But then you could use
this in any circumstance. But then think about it, like
if I hadn't spent so much time in denial, that
I could have had gone straight ahead into the storm
and saved a lot of time. But whatever, everything is okay, Okay,
face hard things head on or avoid them and then
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spinning up a lot of time somewhere else where you
don't need to be.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
But hey, it all works.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Out exactly the way that it's supposed to be, because
that's how I learned.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yes, and now I know.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
For the next time that there is a storm that
you want to avoid.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, next time there's a storm, I'm going to be
a buffalo. But then also I'm not going to grip
so tightly to the umbroebrella because there's hope, there are rainbows.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I have things to be thankful for.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Do you want to tell us what those are? Do
you want me to do four things?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Stratitude?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
I feel like it only makes sense.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Shoot, I already said Taylor arms chop salad.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Okay, so that's fun.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Okay, can I use that still again? Okay, then I'll
say my salad chopper. Okay, my big bowl that comes
with the roller thinging that chops up even more Way protein.
When you got here today, I was drinking my Way smoothie.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
All of yours are food related. So do you want
to keep going with that theme?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I can, But the Way protein that's new to me
because I have been using a vegan protein for a
long time, which I really like. But then doctor Mark
Hyman told me that with age, and I'm an aging woman,
I'm not saying I'm old.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I'm fine with where I am. I'm forty two.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
We're all in gray and women, we're all, I.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Mean, we have aged since we've been sitting here, I am,
I'm losing muscle, and so he said the wave protein
is the best way to retain that and to build
it because it has the right chain of amino acid.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
So all link together.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You can google it. I'm not an expert. I was
going to say, do you have a specific brand that
you found that you like it? Are you just trying
it out?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well, listen, I'm not even necessarily a fan of what
I ordered.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I decided to go. He told me that.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I said, well, I don't really do a lot of dairy,
so that's what throws me off, Like, I don't want
to upset my stomach because I don't. Sometimes I'll have
certain cheeses, but a lot of times I do goat
cheese because I feel like I digest that better. And
he goes, oh, well, there's a goat's milk. I was like, okay,
so I ordered. I think it's called naked goat, but
that's one ingredient. It's called naked goat because there's it's naked.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
There's nothing else.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
It's just goat.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Only ingredient is goat's milk way and it is not good.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
So so you wouldn't recommend it. No, I would, okay,
there it's more savory. So also I've been kind of maybe.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
This is disgusting, but I'm like, I gotta get all
this wave protein that I can get. I'm not trying
to overdo it, but like, if I don't have a smoothie,
if I make one of my daily harvest bowls, like
there's this wild rice, sweet potato avocado bowl. Yeah, and
I will sprinkle and mix in the goat milk and
it's almost like I'm sprinkling in some goat cheese.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Well, what's the flavor of the smoothie?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Well, that's that's where it's tricky because in the bowl,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Have to do anything.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
It's it just adds like a little bit of an
extra savory flavor and you cannot tell. It's not like
doesn't make it gross to me, you know, like a
different texture. It's still yummy. But am I smoothie? I
have had to learn, So what's the is it vanilla? No?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
That would other ingredient.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I'm there's what, there's no sea, there's no vanilla flavor,
there's no unsweetened vanilla.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
We need to invite some more ingredients into the goat way, right,
But this is.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
The only goat I could find was the naked goat
of an Amazon, so I'm sure maybe somewhere else. But
what I have done is sprinkled in a little bit
of my vegan protein powder, which has flavoring, and that
has helped. And then I put like blueberries and pineapples
and spinach and or whatever I put.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
In my smoothie, and that has helped.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Okay, you are have sold nobody on that goat, No.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
No, no, no, but it's don't give up on it.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Because when I arrived, it's this big tub and I'm like, well, shoot,
I got to figure this out. And so now I
add it into my savory stuff because especially if I'm
eating a bowl that has no meat or whatever her
and I want to still get my protein, which I've
been eating a lot more ground meat lately, like ground.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Beef versus like turkey.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, because my kids don't like the ground turkey or
ground chicken too dry. I guess, I don't know, but
they'll eat the ground beef. So I figure I don't
want to go back. I'd go no, I don't need
to do that because that's protein. Okay, follow me here,
which if I'm Staying with the food theme, I saw
at the store the other day that Siete came out
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with a corn tortilla chip.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
What was it before, cassava flower?
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Oh and no, but aren't normally tortilla chips cornorn?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Right?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
But the founder she they came up with this whole
idea because she couldn't have the corn because of her
autoimmune disease. So she started making tortillas and different things
that didn't have flour and didn't have corn. I'm pretty sure,
but now she's back to the corn. You find a
special kind of.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Corn, she probably doesn't eat this one. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I think they probably are just a as a company
because this was way back when they first started, all
they had was one tortilla, right, and then they have
evolved and now they have so many things, which they're
the coolest, you know, when you're so happy to see
people that are really awesome succeed, like they deserve everything
they're getting because they are just an amazing family. But
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I think that as they're branching out and growing, they're like, oh,
we could make this in a way we're all so
we do it different, like we're going to fry it
in Alvocado oil or whatever and keep the ingredients how
that fit for whatever your needs are, because a lot
of people eat sieta because they can't have other things.
But I saw the corn and so I was like, well,
I have to buy these because I love corn tortilla
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chips like I love Coet's casavva, all those different flavors
that they make. But late July Sea Salt this very good,
which they have gotten so expensive. But you can get
them on sale, and if they're on sale, about like
five because I can just keep them on pantry and
then I get a better deal. Well, I was like, well,
I gotta try this siete ones and they're so good.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
So what are you grateful for it they're corn chips
or the company as a whole.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Well I was gonna just say there are corn chips,
but I guess I should just say them as a whole, Okay,
because they're awesome. I don't know if I've said how
many up said, But I have another one that just
came to my mind. Okay, those now go dark chocolate
pretzel protein bars.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I don't know what kind of protein's in there. Probably
not way because they're probably.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
It's probably not goat protein in there, but those are
so good.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Now, go I think that's how you say it.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Okay, and it's a pretzel.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
There's like broken up pretzels inside. Maybe yeah, so they say,
Or maybe there's just sea salt. I don't know, but
I love anything salty sweet.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
So I think you just said like seventeen things. So
do you want to keep going or well?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I hope that those food res are helpful. I mean,
you'll have a good no cow bar that's vegan protein.
But see how I I'm like trying to take in
because Mark Himen. The reason why I'm listening to what
he's saying. I don't listen to everything he says, but
he's talking from a by allogy standpoint, like our biological
age and aging that's happening within, so that I want
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to pay attention to. Because sure, my outside age or
my chronological age, I can't change that, but I can
try to shift my biological age a little bit.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
What do you want with a naked goat?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
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Speaker 1 (32:20):
But I'll also.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Also link them in the show notes. If anybody ever
looks at the show notes? I have no idea. Sometimes
I am like thinking, what do I need to put
in here? Or oh, did does the description look okay?
Or and then I'm like, does anybody even.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Actually look at this? I wish we could tell?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
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Speaker 1 (32:40):
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Speaker 3 (32:44):
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Speaker 4 (32:53):
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Speaker 1 (32:55):
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Speaker 4 (33:05):
Bye.
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat and today's quote is from
our Four Things Gratitude journal. I came across it the
other day when I was journaling, and I loved it
so much that I took a screenshot and knew I
wanted to save it for the Fifth Thing. And it's
from Annie Gottlier, and she said, when some things go wrong,
take a moment to be thankful for the many things
that are going right.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So good, I think it just helps me pivot faster.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
When I do that, I still want to acknowledge whatever
I'm in because I don't want to waste that whatever
I want to be like, this sucks, but then also
look at all these things that.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Don't Yeah, which is good because I feel like, personally me,
I think a lot of people do this when something
goes wrong, it's all you can focus on. Usually that's
not that everything isn't going wrong at the same time.
Sometimes it is, but.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Not everything ycause I've been trying to really not speak
in absolutes because I can do that and I know
I'm not being serious, but I also just don't want
to say it because then it makes it feel heavier
than it is, like you always do this or you
never do that.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
And that's not ever really true, right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So absolutes, try to pay attention to it if you're
listening right now. In your daily conversation with your people,
especially a significant other, that's where I think sometimes it
may come up because there's you know, if you've been
together a while and there's certain frustrations and you may
be having maybe your next argument, pay attention if you
use absolutes, because that's not fair. Yeah, And I mean
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I definitely can do that, so I'm there's no shame
I'm saying. It's something I'm working on, but it could
probably help not make everything worse. And then pay attention
if your partner is saying absolutes, and because I feel good,
it doesn't feel good, and you can be like, oh hey,
but then.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
You don't want to tell people what to do.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Ben and I a conversation the other day, and you know,
we have co parenting stuff, and he was speaking in
a way that I didn't want those thoughts in my head,
like I was taking a different approach, and I even
if we were still married, I can't tell him what
to do. But especially can tell what to do now,
like that would.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Just be so annoying.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But also I can still be in control of what
words and energy I want around me, And so I
just said, hey, what's really been working for me lately
is this approach, and so I'm trying to like stay
on that way. So if you want to operate that way,
that's great, but like, don't say it around me, because
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that might be working for him.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I like that, Like instead of saying I hate when
you do this, you could just say, hey, what I've
learned is this has really been working well for me,
or hey, I've learned I respond really well to this language,
versus you always say it like that I hate when.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You do that.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I could have said, and I think older younger me,
old old me, which also was younger mean, would have
said you should do this or this is the way
to do it, and it's it may not be for him,
and he received it well because I just shared this
is what's working for me, and I would like to
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keep it that way. Yeah, and right now you're killing
that vibe, which when it comes to gratitude, you mind
sharing four things you're thankful for. We haven't done four
things grated with you in.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
A while, I would love to.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
So the first one that's coming to my brain is
our wedding coordinator with our two people, but they're they're
business names, simply Golden because we've saved like triple the
amount of money that we paid for them by them
just giving us recommendations for things and us not knowing that,
like this isn't the normal price to pay for something
like that.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
So they're amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Whenever you say their name or whatever, I instantly the
Harry Styles song pops in my head.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
What it's all so golden?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
That's her styles?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, it so good because isn't that.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Is that on a commercial?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Interesting? Probably all right, well maybe that can be their
theme song.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Simply God.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, they're amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And then the other things that are coming to mind
won my sister because she's been just helping me a
lot with my anxiety around some of this stuff, and
she's just a good sister.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
So is she your second thing?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
That's my second thing, yes, yeah, And then my third
thing would be Trader Joe's not everybody has a Trader
jos by them, but if you do and you haven't been,
you need to go. I used to do all my
grocery shopping there, like that was it if I couldn't
find it Trader Joe's, and I wasn't having it. However,
I've been grocery shopping with Patrick and he likes another
grocery store, and so I finally was like, can we
go back to my thing just once?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
This is what's working for me, I said.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
You know, what I've.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Found is that it really works well for me when
I go to Trader Joe's on Sunday mornings, and I
forgot how much easier that place makes cooking dinner because
they have so many things that it can feel like
you made a meal, but really you just like put
some things together that they already had made or they
are frozen. And that has just saved my life because
the last thing I really want to do at night
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is cooked dinner.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And oh my god, so I feel like produce is
cheaper there too.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Everything is cheaper there.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
You can get a jar salsa for like four or
five dollars at the other grocery store, two dollars at
Trader Joe's. Mhm, it's insane. Why wouldn't we be going there?
And they have the flowers and the plants, and the
people that check people out are so kind.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, just the parking lots annoying.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Not the one by my house. Well, it's huge. I
haven't been to that one yet, so we can go together. Really,
I like it last time I went. Besides saving a
little bit on produce. Then I have to drive there
and try to find Okay, I'll go to yours, because
you say it's a bigger parking lot, but I think
of the time I'm trying to loop around trying to
find a spot. And then I'm like, I'm doing all
this to save a dollar on spinach.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Like I'll just go to.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
The but every week there's that's fifty two dollars, isn't
there fifty two weeks in a year.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
But also I've been obsessed lately with the Tailor Farms
chopped salad.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And they have salad kits, though they don't have those ones.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, but I like the chopped and I like, I
don't know, I love all the Tailor Farms flavor ones,
and I'm I don't know, I'm loyal.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I feel like I will say that was something that
was lacking because we've gotten in the mode of buying
the bag chopped salads and they only had like three
different flavors at Treaderdo's. But I'm still grateful for them, Okay.
And then that was three.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Next time y'all make the taco soup or taco chicken salsa. Yeah, well,
there is a taco soup recipe that I have, but
chicken salsa, which is so easy to make. All you
do in a crockpot is shredded or chew chicken breast.
Put it in the crockpot with a can of salsa
and a can of black beans and let it do
its thing, and then you shred it, right, you and
big p you like it, okay, And then you can
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make some rice and then avocado and make these bowls
and it's a whole thing. Next time you do that,
get the Tailor Farms Nash hot salad kits.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Oh that does not sound like it goes.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Oh, no, it goes.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
We always get the avocado ranch one.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Okay, that goes that.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah that goes too.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, either will work.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Okay, okay, avocado ranch, I could see how that goes
as well. And then crumble chips up on top, oh
for sure. Always that was three things. So my fourth
thing would be have you ever been to Bobby's daridap.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Oh No, but I see people post about it.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Oh okay, So we'll go to Twitter Joe's and then
we'll go to Bobby's because we went for the first
time this year and it is so good. It's like
a walk up like old style, little like ice cream shop.
They have like hamburgers and hot dogs and stuff. But
I got one of those dipped chocolate cones like soft
serve and then they dip it in the chocolate and
it gets hard.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
It made my whole week.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
If you're ever in Nashville, if you live here or go,
but if you're visiting, because a lot of people visit Nashville.
I mean this this weekend, I feel like five million
people are here. Yeah, all the time. Like there's bachelorette parties,
there's like any kind of party, medical conventions, there's the music.
There's so much that brings people to Nashville.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So Bobby's Bobby's Dairy dep in West Nashville, there was
a long line down the sidewalk wait to wait for
like a whole fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Since we're still talking about gratitude, my friend Jessica honegher
she put a quote in our latest Gratitude Journal, and
it's so good. Since we're still talking about gratitude, my
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friend Jessica Honeger, she put a quote in our latest Gratitude.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Journal, and it's so good.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Like I keep saying in my head over and over, contentment, contentment, contentment,
because she had that in the quote, like hers is
what if all you ever wanted is what you have
right now. Gratitude is the byproduct of contentment. It's like contentment,
what is contentment? And then it got me curious, so
I look up the definition of contentment. Of course there's
like a few different ones, but my favorite one is
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peaceful satisfaction.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
That sounds so nice.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
So gratitude is the byproduct of peaceful satisfaction, of contentment.
It's like you're content with where you are and whatever
is happening. Because even when things go wrong, like my
water bill was really really high and crazy for several
months and we could not figure it out.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
But I what, I feel like this has happened to
you before though, where like your water bill was like crazy,
hih and you had to call the people.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yes, it's been high for we haven't been able to
figure it out. We've had because it's been going on
for this long. That's why you feel like, is this
happening again. No, I've just been continuing to pay high
water bills except for the month of December it went
down to ninety so we thought we fixed it.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
That still sounds like a lot for water.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, but some of my bills have been five or
six hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Oh oh, I know you're not saying that.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well, what else a I supposed to do? The water
companies can come after me.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I have to give the ducks somewhere to live that
you have at your house now.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yes, and so we've had I've had the water company
out multiple times. I've had a new meter put in,
I had plumbers come out, and I did all the
Do you remember when I put kool aid in my toilet.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
And that the water company is saying, like, this can't
be right.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Well, sometimes when I was on the phone with them,
I'm like you do you do understand that? Like something
has to be wrong? And they're like, uh, your bill's
doing a week. I don't know, like it just they
were very nice, but it's ultimately if they can't.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Figure out the problem.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I'm the homeown oction. It's on me, so I had
to take responsibility. So I finally found this special leak
detection group and they came out and did it and
they were able to find it, like within twenty minutes.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Where was it?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So is this part in the front of my house.
There's this dip in the yard that where it goes down,
and there's also a I don't know what you call it,
a lid there where you can get into the ground
like a metal lid and you open it up and
you can get to some pipes and stuff. So I
had seen water gather there before, and I even told
the water company that and they told me it was
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brain and so I never really looked into it. I
just was like, well, it hasn't even rained, but there's
still water there. But oh well, maybe it's still there
from the last time it rained. I don't know all
this to say, we got it fixed. So the leak
detection people they found it there. It was a pipe.
I had a teeny I talked about this on the
Bobby Bone Show, but I like two weeks ago, but
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I know you don't listen, So it's fine.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
The sorry you said that, like, I know you don't
care about what I do for a living.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
It's okay, I don't listen in on your therapy sessions.
There was a hole the size of a pinhole and
it was leaking like half a gallon of water per minute.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So that's why my water bill was so crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And that was a very frustrating time, like even still
the last week or so, because I had to pay
the bill to have it fixed, which was pricey. But
I know that the money I'm going to save on
my future expensive water bills, it's gonna obviously it was
the right choice to pay the large sum of money
to have it fixed. And then eventually we'll get back
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to normal and I'll be like, oh, this is amazing,
and we'll.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I'll be like a satisfaction.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
It'll be like it never even happened.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
But to combat my frustration, I tried to focus on
the positives of what I have to be grateful for,
Like I have water that flows freely into my house
that is safe to drink. Yes, it is leaking a
lot to permit it, but I have water and some
people do not. I am thankful for that pipe or
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whatever then that when I think of the water running
into my house, then my brain's like, oh wow, I'm
thankful for this house, and I'm thankful for and then
you know it, just it piggybacks and then you can
find similar to the quote at the beginning, like focus
on what's going right, Like I can get hung up
on the water and how much I had to spend
this month on it or lat month or all these months,
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or I can focus on what is going right and
direct my attention that way so that I don't get
all in a see.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well, and as you're saying this, I'm thinking about how
Brene Brown talks about joy being a byproduct of gratitude.
So kind of what you're doing is you're creating us
a little like path like we find this peaceful satisfaction,
we find this contentment that it moves us to gratitude,
which then moves us to joy.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And so many of us sit around and.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Look at other people and are like, I want Amy's joy,
I want Susie's joy, I wish I had that life.
They look so happy when all of that is actually
stealing joy away from us. But if we look at
our lives and the things that we do have. That's
actually how you get to that place that you see
that you actually want to go.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
It's like what we were talking about at the Live
about abundance and lack. Yeah, if you're looking at someone
else for whatever what they have or that's you focusing
on the lack, but look at your abundance and then
you're going to see more abundance. Wherever you focus your
mind or your energy, your thoughts, it's where they're going
to go.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I heard Annie f Downs, this was like two years
ago probably talk on a podcast, and she said, if
I am looking at another person's life to find out
if I'm okay, I'm always going to end up wanting.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I'm never going to feel satisfied.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So yeah, and focusing on gratitude for me, that's the
game changer. And again it doesn't ignore the situation at all,
but it just redirects things to get me back to
the peaceful satisfaction, the contentment. And you know another thing
though that doesn't bring me peaceful satisfaction is raisin and cookies,
especially if I don't know that they're there.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Why would you not know, well.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Because someone made cookies and then I thought, oh, those
look like good oatmeal cookies. I don't think I see
any raisins and then I bite into it and I
get a raisin, and I'm like, well, to me, I
just don't think that raisins or walnuts or pecans maybe pecans,
let's just stick with walnuts and raisins.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
They do not belong in cookies.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Did you recently bite into a cookie that made you upset? Yes? Okay,
because I love raisins and cookies.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
My one of my favorite cookies would be an oatmeal
raisin cookie. They're so good, it's like a little pop
of sweetness in your mouth.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
No, you know that famous meme. I'm sure you've seen
it or some people even have it.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
On my shoes and stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
But like, it's oatmeal raisin cookies are the reason why
I have trust issues.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I'm the opposite.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I'm like, this is the reason I have joy and
happiness in my life.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh gosh, you're such a cookie connoisseur. I'm shocked.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I love o'meal raisin. There you had TIFFs treats I
think at the live and I was trying to find
the omeal raisin cookie.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Oh they we had an oatmeal chocolate chip. I don't
even know if they make raisin. But I definitely did
not order raisin because I wouldn't do that to people.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I wouldn't want to confuse them.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
But then there's people like me who were like, this
is the best day ever. Thank you so much for
this oatmeal raisin cookie.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
You should do a poll of sea how many people?
Because I think now it's become a thing. It's like
cool to hate on raisins.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
El Royo, you know the sign in Austin, and we
follow their Instagram. They had a sign recently that said, like,
pretty sure raisins are the only food most eaten by accident,
Poor guys.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Do you like prunes?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Okay, a prune and a racin a different No, they're
not a prune.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Isn't that like a big thing? Is that a plum
big old raisin? Yeah, but it's basically the same thing.
It's a shriveled up, you know, griep.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
But I'm not just like taking a handful of raisins
and putting in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I love I love grapes.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Raisins in like salads or stop looking at me like
I'm a psychopath.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Raisins are good. Do you like crasins? You do, don't you.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Al Ea, the crasns they're they're very different. But I
also don't want a crazin and a cookie. But I'll
give you a crasin in a salad.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
That'll be a good cookie.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
As a white chocolate crazin Macadamian nut cookie.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
That sounds delicious.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
They make those of them, especially at Christmas time or something,
because I think it's the red and the white.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, that sounds delicious. I want that in a cookie.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh gosh, I do not.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I feel like we're in a fight.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Okay, I've got an email from Julie. I've got an
email from Julie.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Amy, I'm a longtime listener, first time emailer. I can't
remember how long ago it was, but you read Christie's
poem about a penny on the podcast which is me
talking here.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Christie's my sister.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Back to the email, I was so moved by it
and would love to have it printed and framed in
my new home. I lost my mom to cancer in
twenty thirteen when I was twenty one years old, and
it reminded me of the journey I took with her.
If you wouldn't mind sharing it again, or emailing me
the full poem poem poem.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I wasn't gonna say home.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
As long as it's okay with Christy, I would be
forever grateful. Thank you for being so open with your
grief journey. It helps so many of us. Your friend
from Ohio, Julie, So Julia emailed you Lucky Days. It
should be in your inbox. But I'm also going to
read it now because it's been a minute. Have you
ever heard Lucky Days? I probably just only shared it
on the four Things episode not the thing? All right,
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here we go, written by my sister. Christy dosher Lucky Days.
Shiny Penny on the sidewalk, little brown eyed girl holding
mama's hand. She bends right down to pick it up
and cups it like gold sifted from the sand. Her
eyes look up, and her mama looks down and says,
it's your lucky day. If these are lucky days, then
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I want to save them up and cash them in
when things don't go my way and count them all
as blessings in my not enoughs I went to pay
good to the bad and hope to the mess. Lucky Day,
which also Julie, I'm if I copied and pasted it
the way I'm reading this right now. There are some
lines that are off if you're listening to this, But
I'll also email you because if you're printing this out
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for your house, I want to make sure that you
have it, like how the poem.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Puem poem home, So just say poem pom poems.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
What are you doing with your mouth?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Okay, see because hold.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
On, just breathe and then do it.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Palm anyway, Julie, I want you to print it correctly.
So anyway, here we go, continuing on Shiny Penny on
the parking lot. Grown girl open in mama's door.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Frail.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Mama bends to pick it up, her body too weak
for treatment no more. The prayers went up and the
memories came down. Girl says, How's this a lucky day?
If these are lucky days that I've been saving up,
I want to cash them into day because this is hard,
hard stuff. I want to pay good to this bad
and hope to this mess. Somehow lucky days. But sometimes
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lucky is going home home, to that eternal place where
pain's no longer something you own, where you sing of
amazing grace. Girls lie by their mama's side that bright
morning she flew away, and their eyes tear up, and
God looks down and says it's her lucky day. Yes,
these are lucky days. If you look close enough, you
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catch a glimpse of grace somehow. And even in the
hard stuff, when that dirt road ahead is not what
you planned, get down on your knees and pray for pennies.
These are the lucky days. There's good and the bad,
and joy in the mess. These are the lucky days.
And did you see how my sister wrote in there
girls lie by their mama's side that bright morning she
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flew away. You know last week I was telling you
my mom flew into the duck. So there you go.
That's lucky days. My sister is. She's such a good writer.
I love, I love really good. I love this work
of writing, trying not just work of art. I'm trying
not to say poem. Oh well, did I say it
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right at the time? Just whatever normal and then say poem.
Moving on, speaking of my sister, I got another email
from Katie asking about something that was related to my sister,
So I'll share it. Hey, Amy, I love, love love
this story that your sister told her the Buffalo. I
think it's such a good reminder, especially for things that
I've gone through recently. And I would love the necklace
that she has. Do you have a link or even
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the brand if anything? Just let me know your friend
of nine years, Katie.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I love that. She said, up of nine years.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Dang, listen a long time.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
So it was a gift from her husband to replace
this other necklace that had this meaning.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So he got her the.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Fourteen year old one, which the little pricey because I
wanted to get it. I had no idea and I
was like, oh, I want to go on, I want
to match, and then I go look it up and
I'm like, maybe I'll have to wait till somebody wants
to gift it to me, or if I'm celebrating something,
I'll treat myself. They also have a silver version that
is way the price difference is night and day. So
it's the Goldenbear dot com. And the Golden Bear is
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a store like if you're familiar in Colorado, which that's
where my sister and Ben live, and this is a
shop and veil and it's got a lot of really
cute things, but they are pieces that you can have forever.
So do you know the buffalo like it's a buffalo
coin pendent.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
So if you're not familiar with when my sister was
on On Four Things a few weeks ago, to summarize it,
it's pretty much cow's run from storms and buffalo's run
towards the storm because they know that they're gonna end
up spending far less time in the storm if they
just go ahead and get through it.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Are you a buffalo or cow?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I really want to say that I'm a buffalo, but
I think I it depends on the situation.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I am a cow.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
I think most of them I'm a cow.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
But I mean I'm gonna try to be a buffalo now.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, And this is actually a good reminder because I
heard this story.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
It's not right. Storage is the fact a long time
ago I was like, oh no, no, no, that's so nice.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
But I it's nice to be reminded of it and
then to think back of like what have I been
actually doing? Have I been like bracing myself or have
I been just going forth? I think sometimes the brace
is like maybe the storm's going to stop before it
gets here.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Well, see, I also see it as like complete denial procrastination,
Like that's when you're the cow. You're like, well, I
guess I'm just gonna go this way, but the storm's
going that way anyway, but you're turning around and trying
to avoid it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
A lot of my life I spent in denial.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, and some of it was just I didn't know
what I didn't know. But then also I think a
new but I didn't want to know.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I didn't want to know, so I didn't want to
actually go into the storm and see that this is
really is reality.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Way harder to face it. But then you could use
this in any circumstance. But then think about it, like
if I hadn't spent so much time in denial, that
I could have had gone straight ahead into the storm
and saved a lot of time. But whatever, everything is okay, Okay,
face hard things head on or avoid them and then
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spinning up a lot of time somewhere else where you
don't need to be.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
But hey, it all works.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Out exactly the way that it's supposed to be, because
that's how I learned.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yes, and now I know.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
For the next time that there is a storm that
you want to avoid.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, next time there's a storm, I'm going to be
a buffalo. But then also I'm not going to grip
so tightly to the umbroebrella because there's hope, there are rainbows.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I have things to be thankful for.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Do you want to tell us what those are? Do
you want me to do four things?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Stratitude?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
I feel like it only makes sense.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Shoot, I already said Taylor arms chop salad.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Okay, so that's fun.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Okay, can I use that still again? Okay, then I'll
say my salad chopper. Okay, my big bowl that comes
with the roller thinging that chops up even more Way protein.
When you got here today, I was drinking my Way smoothie.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
All of yours are food related. So do you want
to keep going with that theme?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I can, But the Way protein that's new to me
because I have been using a vegan protein for a
long time, which I really like. But then doctor Mark
Hyman told me that with age, and I'm an aging woman,
I'm not saying I'm old.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I'm fine with where I am. I'm forty two.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
We're all in gray and women, we're all, I.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Mean, we have aged since we've been sitting here, I am,
I'm losing muscle, and so he said the wave protein
is the best way to retain that and to build
it because it has the right chain of amino acid.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
So all link together.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You can google it. I'm not an expert. I was
going to say, do you have a specific brand that
you found that you like it? Are you just trying
it out?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well, listen, I'm not even necessarily a fan of what
I ordered.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I decided to go. He told me that.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I said, well, I don't really do a lot of dairy,
so that's what throws me off, Like, I don't want
to upset my stomach because I don't. Sometimes I'll have
certain cheeses, but a lot of times I do goat
cheese because I feel like I digest that better. And
he goes, oh, well, there's a goat's milk. I was like, okay,
so I ordered. I think it's called naked goat, but
that's one ingredient. It's called naked goat because there's it's naked.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
There's nothing else.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
It's just goat.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Only ingredient is goat's milk way and it is not good.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
So so you wouldn't recommend it. No, I would, okay,
there it's more savory. So also I've been kind of maybe.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
This is disgusting, but I'm like, I gotta get all
this wave protein that I can get. I'm not trying
to overdo it, but like, if I don't have a smoothie,
if I make one of my daily harvest bowls, like
there's this wild rice, sweet potato avocado bowl. Yeah, and
I will sprinkle and mix in the goat milk and
it's almost like I'm sprinkling in some goat cheese.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Well, what's the flavor of the smoothie?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Well, that's that's where it's tricky because in the bowl,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Have to do anything.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
It's it just adds like a little bit of an
extra savory flavor and you cannot tell. It's not like
doesn't make it gross to me, you know, like a
different texture. It's still yummy. But am I smoothie? I
have had to learn, So what's the is it vanilla? No?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
That would other ingredient.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I'm there's what, there's no sea, there's no vanilla flavor,
there's no unsweetened vanilla.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
We need to invite some more ingredients into the goat way, right,
But this is.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
The only goat I could find was the naked goat
of an Amazon, so I'm sure maybe somewhere else. But
what I have done is sprinkled in a little bit
of my vegan protein powder, which has flavoring, and that
has helped. And then I put like blueberries and pineapples
and spinach and or whatever I put.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
In my smoothie, and that has helped.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Okay, you are have sold nobody on that goat, No.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
No, no, no, but it's don't give up on it.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Because when I arrived, it's this big tub and I'm like, well, shoot,
I got to figure this out. And so now I
add it into my savory stuff because especially if I'm
eating a bowl that has no meat or whatever her
and I want to still get my protein, which I've
been eating a lot more ground meat lately, like ground.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Beef versus like turkey.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, because my kids don't like the ground turkey or
ground chicken too dry. I guess, I don't know, but
they'll eat the ground beef. So I figure I don't
want to go back. I'd go no, I don't need
to do that because that's protein. Okay, follow me here,
which if I'm Staying with the food theme, I saw
at the store the other day that Siete came out
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with a corn tortilla chip.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
What was it before, cassava flower?
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Oh and no, but aren't normally tortilla chips cornorn?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Right?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
But the founder she they came up with this whole
idea because she couldn't have the corn because of her
autoimmune disease. So she started making tortillas and different things
that didn't have flour and didn't have corn. I'm pretty sure,
but now she's back to the corn. You find a
special kind of.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Corn, she probably doesn't eat this one. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I think they probably are just a as a company
because this was way back when they first started, all
they had was one tortilla, right, and then they have
evolved and now they have so many things, which they're
the coolest, you know, when you're so happy to see
people that are really awesome succeed, like they deserve everything
they're getting because they are just an amazing family. But
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I think that as they're branching out and growing, they're like, oh,
we could make this in a way we're all so
we do it different, like we're going to fry it
in Alvocado oil or whatever and keep the ingredients how
that fit for whatever your needs are, because a lot
of people eat sieta because they can't have other things.
But I saw the corn and so I was like, well,
I have to buy these because I love corn tortilla
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chips like I love Coet's casavva, all those different flavors
that they make. But late July Sea Salt this very good,
which they have gotten so expensive. But you can get
them on sale, and if they're on sale, about like
five because I can just keep them on pantry and
then I get a better deal. Well, I was like, well,
I gotta try this siete ones and they're so good.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
So what are you grateful for it they're corn chips
or the company as a whole.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Well I was gonna just say there are corn chips,
but I guess I should just say them as a whole, Okay,
because they're awesome. I don't know if I've said how
many up said, But I have another one that just
came to my mind. Okay, those now go dark chocolate
pretzel protein bars.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I don't know what kind of protein's in there. Probably
not way because they're probably.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
It's probably not goat protein in there, but those are
so good.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Now, go I think that's how you say it.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Okay, and it's a pretzel.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
There's like broken up pretzels inside. Maybe yeah, so they say,
Or maybe there's just sea salt. I don't know, but
I love anything salty sweet.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
So I think you just said like seventeen things. So
do you want to keep going or well?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I hope that those food res are helpful. I mean,
you'll have a good no cow bar that's vegan protein.
But see how I I'm like trying to take in
because Mark Himen. The reason why I'm listening to what
he's saying. I don't listen to everything he says, but
he's talking from a by allogy standpoint, like our biological
age and aging that's happening within, so that I want
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to pay attention to. Because sure, my outside age or
my chronological age, I can't change that, but I can
try to shift my biological age a little bit.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
What do you want with a naked goat?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Our four things gratitude journals, By the way, since we
did tuckle up about gratitude, they're a non intimidating way
to get into the gratitude practice if you're wanting to,
and you don't even have to do four things a
day if that's too much for you, if you're starting out,
you could use a journal and try to journal four
days a week and do one thing each day, and
you could even just do one word or a whole
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paragraph in each section. But they're up at four things
dot com if you want to check those out. And
the best part well, is that it's going to help
you with gratitude, which will lead to peaceful satisfaction and contentment.
But those are the same thing. But all proceeds go
to Project Meta Share in Haiti. They provide education for
children and maternity care for new moms. And Haiti is
(32:02):
really suffering right now. Stuff that's happening there is so unimaginable,
so they could definitely use our help. And you know,
if you've never checked out the journals, you can look
at them, or if you've been thinking about getting a journal,
now would be a really good time. There's two super
cute color options, and again an easy way to find
them is four things dot com.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
But I'll also.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Also link them in the show notes. If anybody ever
looks at the show notes? I have no idea. Sometimes
I am like thinking, what do I need to put
in here? Or oh, did does the description look okay?
Or and then I'm like, does anybody even.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Actually look at this? I wish we could tell?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
And then you can put random like little links in
there that go to something that would make somebody happy.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Where can people find you Cat and your show notes?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
You can buy me on Instagram at Kat dot depata
and at Unique Therapy Podcasts, which is a podcast that
has show notes that I put links in.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
You can also go and click those Yes.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I am at Radioamy.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You can also hit up Radioamy dot com and Cat
and I both hope that you have the day you
need to have.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Bye.
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