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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Cat. And today's quote it's from our favorite El
Royal sign, say Mel Robbins. Oh, well, if he's another favorite.
But we actually have two quotes for you today, this
one being the funnier one. I'm jealous of fahita meat.
I want to be wrapped in a warm tortilla. And
(00:28):
I'm like, oh, that sounds so comforting right now, to
just be wrapped up in a tortilla, A warm tortilla. Yeah,
if you could be wrapped up in any food, what
would you choose? Because I feel like a homemade flower tortilla.
This is I typically go corn for things, but flowers softer.
But if I'm yea and I love the smell of
(00:50):
the flower tortilla. What about you? So I've never thought
about what food I would want to be wrapped up
and so I feel like I've been put on the spot.
I don't know how many. Well I have another one.
I would I wouldn't be wrapped up in this, but
I would want to jump into it a big old
bowl of spaghetti. Okay, I was gonna say that's something.
Did have you ever seen Patch Adams no, oh my,
(01:12):
you've never seen Patch Adams. If I have, I don't remember.
Oh my gosh. Okay, Well, in the movie, a woman
gets to swim in a huge, inflatable pool of spaghetti noodles. Oh,
that's so yeah. I would do that. That That would be
very comforting to me. I would jump in that before
I get wrapped up in a tortilla. But I guess
if I'm gonna be wrapped in something, it's that or
(01:34):
like a big loaf of bread. But that might be
too suffocating. You know. I picture myself in a big
old thing aquiso, like just dunk me in there so
that I can just drink it. We've been doing nachos
with quieso. We just had these last night. We got chips,
laid them out, drizzled queso on top, which I had
already mixed black beans in with the quieso, so that's
(01:57):
in there too, And then we did a layer of
ground meat. I got some lettuce. You know, I love
a chopped salad. Chop chop chop. I'd already gotten the
Tailor Farms bag of chopped lettuce, so it's already chopped.
But I you really like some chopped lettuce I put
the chopped tailor farms in a bowl, and I get
my little roller thingy and I chop it up even
(02:18):
more so that way it's like a sprinkle, and then
I sprinkle it on tops. You know, you're getting some greens.
I like to work that stuff in when I can.
It's easy, it's great, it's glorious. Kids eat it. I
first did it at the Super Bowl, and not at
but on the Super Bowl, had it at my house,
and then we just did it again last night, and
I'm like, okay, I need to add this into a
rotation because everybody's happy. So that's that. Okay, we're talking
(02:42):
about comfort and how a tortilla would make me super comfortable,
and now we've derailed a bit. But your more serious
quote is about comfort, so yeah, ahead and share that.
So this came from an Instagram account at upworthy, and
then it's a tweet from a man. I don't know
this man, Alexander James, and it says some years back,
(03:04):
my wife and I got into the habit of asking
each other do you want comfort or solutions when the
other was having a bad time. That one sentence can
save us from an argument. Nine out of ten times
love it, and you know that's in a romantic relationship,
but that could work in all kinds of relationships. I
love it. Do you want comfort or solutions? Yeah? What
(03:25):
if I said both? I didn't say it that way,
comfort or solutions, but I said something similar to my sister.
She called yesterday and just needed to vent about some things.
And I said, Okay, do you need me to just
listen or do you want my thoughts on what you
just said? And she said, well, yeah, like you said,
(03:45):
but it's just like, well, I really just needed to vent,
but yeah, if you have something you want to say,
say it. Yeah. Okay. So I didn't realize this. This
is a like what's it called a carousel? When there's
other I act like I'm like sixty five years old,
I should know how to use. Yes, okay, that's called
a caroself. Okay, okay, so there's other things. People reply
(04:05):
to that and gave their things, so I want to
read some of them. So this person said, I say,
would you like opinions or to just be heard? How
can I best support you right now? Do you want
a brainstorm or do you just want me to listen?
I like that one we use do you want to
hug or some help? That's so cute. That's really all
of the ones that I like. But yeah, I like that.
(04:26):
Do you want to hug or some help? Maybe a
hug as help? Right? I think that, like you said,
it could be both. Yeah, do you need a hugg
or help from me? Right now? I want to hug
as help or Some people who don't like physical touch
will say I don't want to hug, I want a
high five? Which what's your love language? Physical touch? Yeah,
I figured that one. I can't touch you right now though,
(04:46):
you're too far across the room, so in case you
ever need it. Obviously, in a romantic relationship, physical touch
can be a certain thing. But can a friend offer
someone Yeah, you mean a rubbish shoulders? Give me? How
can I help you? So it's not just about sometimes
me being touched though sometimes I just want to be
like in close proximity to the people that I'm with,
(05:09):
Or it might be me wanting to give that to
somebody else, So I might play with somebody's hair, or
I want to like lay on their shoulder as we're
watching a show. And I have a lot of friends
where like Ken, I don't want you to do that,
and I say, well, this is how you can support
me right now? Well, you can rub my shoulders okay, great,
I mean or like that even just like sometimes I
have that like massage gun thing that it's you don't
even have to touch me. We can touch through this machine.
(05:32):
You can use that like a farragun. Yeah. So our
friend Lisa, she gifted me one of those things that
you put on your shoulder and you put your arms
through it and press down. I don't know what they're
called shoulder massage thingies, don't know the official name. The
point of being able to put your arms through the
holes is to create resistance so that you can the
(05:53):
more you stretch your arms out, the tighter it is
on the shoulders. Just get what I'm saying. Like it
wraps around like an like a big scarf, does it
vibrary this one doesn't. It just moves in circular motions
like the needing like at the nail salon. I want
that that sort of thing and then it heats up.
(06:13):
Wait I want that, Well you can, you know, I
would like to use it. I don't need to have
my own. It's downstairs. Okay, that is me giving you
physical physical touch. You're welcome, thank you, thank you so much.
Mine's words of affirmation, So tell thank you so much.
You're such a good friend. Yours words of affirmation, except
if it's public. Oh yeah, true, yeah, you're like off
(06:34):
the air. Please give me five compliments. Just tell me
I did good. Tell me, which I've learned as a three.
My worthiness does not come from outside validation, so I
shall stop seeking that. I retracted my question. I do
not need you to tell me something. I am good. Okay, fine,
I am worthy on my own. Which worthiness is a
(06:54):
big theme of our live event coming up at the
end of the month in Nashville, and I'm so excited
for people to hear it and all the amazing guests
that are gonna be there, which Cat's one of them.
Oh and on my little board thingy, do you see
what I put right there? The word words a coincidence? Oh,
I did it weeks ago. I like it. I don't
know my sister. That's a gift from her. It's one
(07:15):
of those boards where you can I don't know what
they're called. Letter board kidding. First we have the neck
arm shoulder thingy, and now we have she's like using
her hands to like make her you can't see her,
but she was like, it's like one of these things
that's like a rectangle. And then I was gonna say,
(07:38):
you can interchange the letters. But you're right, it is
called a letter board. I guess some people might call
it a felt board. But but you also didn't know
what a carousel was, so right, I should have made
the feel Sorry, I take it back, Well you taught
you taught me that too, I didn't know I called
it the swipey thing. Anyway. I put wordy up there
(07:59):
so that I would see that every time I'm working
in my podcast room and I would know okay worthy,
and then especially that being a big theme for the
live So I'm so excited for everybody that is coming.
We'll load up the episode on the podcast so everybody's
going to be able to hear it. I got an
email from someone today that's coming from Canada. We are international,
(08:19):
now international all the way from Canada. That's far away
from Nashville. Yeah, so I'm very excited. So those in
the room, I feel as though there's an energy in
there that's going to be amazing. But I get that
not everybody can come, so you will be able to
listen to it. But an idea we've been throwing around,
(08:39):
which I got a company name yesterday. I just have
to get a quote of how much this will cost
to professionally live stream it, and people could buy tickets
for that to cover the cost. Because I know it's
going to I talk to Ali Fallon about it, which
is another one of the guests that's going to be
on stage, and she is so wise. I can't wait
for y'all to hear from her on stage. Like her,
(09:02):
she's so good at what she does. Kat's so good
at what she does. Britney Spencer is so talented with
her music. And then I added another guest, Leanne Ellington,
who's a self image scientist. Her story is amazing too. Look,
we have so many amazing women that are going to
be on stage with us, and men will benefit from it.
This is an event where men that are there are
(09:23):
going to benefit from all of these awesome women on stage.
But livestream could be a possibility. I just gotta get
to quote, and if you would be interested in that,
send an email let me know four things with Amy
Brown at gmail dot com, so maybe I can get
a head count or something. Maybe not this event, just
because this is a little last minute I'll look into
(09:43):
doing it for future events. So we'll see how that goes.
But we all feel unworthy of different things at times.
So my hope is that anybody's showing up that is
not feeling worthy, they leave knowing that they absolutely are
and they deserve a full and beautiful life. Like a rainbow.
Why wouldn't you want to comfort that beautiful rainbow? You're
(10:06):
gonna walk out as a beautiful rainbow. You know, Cat. Earlier,
you mentioned like the quote was from a couple like I, Hey,
I asked my partner, do you want comfort or solutions? Right?
I have the most common things couples argue about, you know, Kat,
(10:31):
Earlier you mentioned like the quote was from a couple
like I, Hey, I asked my partner do you want
comfort or solutions? Right? I have the most common things
couples argue about. Oh, you should ask me these and
I'll answer them and we can rate my current relationship. Okay,
not turning the lights off after leaving the room. I
get mad at that. Yes, not wiping down kitchen counters
(10:54):
and surfaces. No, y'all both do that, well? I think
I just take that as my thing to do. Okay, yeah,
leaving what towels lying around? No, what to watch on TV?
We don't argue about that. We just never can find
something who pays the bills. Well, we pay our own okay, good, Well,
y'all are well. You're gonna get married soon. I hope
(11:18):
what the thermostat should be set to? No, I think
we both like to be cold. You're supposed to have
it colder at night to sleep better. Wait, really that's
what they say. It's supposed to be said at sixty something.
Can't remember the number, but somebody thought, Oh, I don't
like being cold when I sleep. But I'm onto honestly
willing to do whatever to get the best night's sleep,
(11:39):
So I'm probably gonna have to start trying it. Not
loading the dishwasher correctly, No, we don't really use the
dishwasher that often. Your hand wash, yeah, good for you.
I guess I don't know. I don't know if it's better.
I love the dishwasher, and I do get annoyed if
it's not loaded correctly. App Like, how is it loaded? Wrong?
Things just being all put in the wrong way, stuff
(12:00):
that I feel should be on the top that ends
up on the bottom, or vice versa, or the silverware.
You can organize it a certain way so that when
you're putting the silverware away when it's clean, it's a
much more efficient process. I just feel as though there's
ways that you can load the dishwasher. I probably get
that from my mom because I think she used to
get annoyed at me for not loading it correctly. So
(12:21):
it's hereditary. That means you think of another quote that
I had read for today That thought was funny, and
it says, I just go with the flow as long
as I know where the flow is going, and it's
going precisely where ADS like to go. I'm go with
the flow with how the dishwasher is loaded, as long
as it's loaded exactly how I like it. Yeah, another
(12:44):
thing on here, wearing shoes inside the house. No I
do that? Do you do that in your house? We
wear shoes? Shoes in your house? I want to be
a no shoe household. But okay, I've not. I've thought.
I've said that for years and I have not been
able to implement it, nor have I tried. It's just
it's a dream, big dream pipe, dream pipe dream not
double locking the doors at night. People fight about that.
(13:07):
No leaving windows open when one goes out. No, yeah,
I don't. Wow, this very specific. Two thousand adults. Well
that's the only five percent of people that sparks an
argument about, Like, oh wow, they must have a really
good relationship otherwise. Yeah, those are like the little things
that you really get mad at those things because there's
(13:28):
something else really happening kind of thing which makes me
think of I did a couple of weeks ago and
I'm still in it. So this is good. People can
have something to look forward to. But I started a
series on Unique Therapy on the four Horsemen of the
Apocalypse of relationships, which do you know what that is?
I would assume it means the end, Like these four
things contribute to the end of a relationship, so otherwise
(13:52):
known as a breakup. Yes, yes, the end of a relationship.
They were created by this guy. His name is John Gottman.
He's like the go to person when it comes to
couples and relationships and stuff like that in the therapy world.
And he I remember learning in school and it caught
my attention because I was like, I want to know
more about that. He can predict within nine and be
(14:14):
right whether a relationship is going to succeed or fail
based on these four things that he came up with,
which again I'm doing a series on it. So the
first one came out this week and it's on criticism,
and then the rest of them are contempt, defensiveness, and stonewalling.
And the good news is I talk about those, but
then I give the antidote, so then you don't maybe
(14:36):
have the breakup. So it's if someone criticizes things a lot,
like they didn't load the dishwasher correctly, or I'll give
you a little bit of a tease. Because with criticism,
it's interesting because there's a difference between criticizing somebody and
complaining about something, and a complaint can be really helpful.
When I criticize somebody, I'm criticizing like their character. I'm
(14:58):
not focusing on a behavior. So let's say I am
upset about the dishwasher and I'm like, oh, you never
load the dishwasher correctly, You're so dumb. That's criticism versus like, hey,
you know, I love that you tried to help me
load the dishwasher. I have the specific way of doing
it and I'd like to share it with you so
(15:20):
the dishes get the cleanest they can get. You're saying, hey,
I love that you did this. Let me show you
how we can do it better without being like you're
so stupid. Why wouldn't you know how to load the dishwasher? Right?
I mean, hopefully you would never say it like that.
But that's why he has the ability to predict these relationships,
because really these things are how we're communicating with people.
(15:41):
And so this whole thing is about with relationships is
it's not so much if we have conflict or we
don't have conflict, it's how do we manage it when
we have it? Because you're gonna have it? Do I
manage it by yelling at you and calling you names
or stonewalling you and withdrawing or becoming defensive and not
being able to hear you? Which I know what stillballing is,
but someone else might not. So can you explain it?
(16:03):
I know it'll be the fourth episode of this series
that you're doing. But just a quick definition, it's basically
like putting like a hand up or turning your back.
It's shutting down versus leaning in and really trying to
understand somebody or being understood yourself. I mean an easy
example of that is if you get in a fight.
I have done this in my life. If you get
in a fight with somebody and instead of being like, okay, listen,
(16:25):
my feelings were really hurt when I heard this. This
is what I made up in my head about that,
and I want to have a conversation. You just turn
your back. Whether you're in the car you just start
looking out the window, or if you're in bed, you
just turn your back and go to sleep. And you're withdrawing,
and you really are trying to get them to be like, hey,
are you okay over there? But you're withdrawing and you
(16:47):
can't withdraw your way into connecting with somebody, and so
he gives the Okay, if this is what you want
to do, this is what actually you can do to
actually get the kneed met that you're looking for in
the relationship. Ok this is going to be a good series.
I'm here. I try to do it in one episode
and I was like, there's so much information and it's
so interesting, and again, you can apply to any relationship.
(17:08):
It's not just your romantic partner. Because if you're criticizing
me all day long. I don't think that we will
be able to do this. Back to your criticism example,
I am guilty of. Maybe another category is not just criticism,
(17:32):
but using the words always or never that is it. Yeah,
I've done that, but when yeah, when you step back,
it's like, Okay, this person hasn't always. And then I
notice my twelve year old doing the same thing to me,
and so then I'm like, oh gosh, I don't know
where we get it from, but children are doing it.
And then as adults we know better because you know
(17:53):
it's not always or never, but then you're pinning that
on them. And so for me, this I can always
be for myself. Seeing a kid do it and knowing
that I've done it makes me feel like a kid.
And maybe I am going back to some form of
my childhood and that was how I well, you always
do this, It's like, well, no, we always. It's an
immature way to get a nan met when there are
(18:13):
better ways. As a kid, you don't really know. But
when we do that, when we exaggerate it. We all
have said that before, like they never do this or
they always do this, it's because it feels that big
to you. In the moment and you're trying to get
your point across. But when one of your kids says
to you, you never let us do anything fun, what
do you start thinking about? Well, I immediately want to
(18:34):
say I do lots of fun things exactly. So you
start being defensive, which is another one of the horsemen.
And the thing is it's not about like when I
say you never do this. Then you start being like,
wait no, like I'm not a bad mom, Like I
am fun, I'm so fun, Like I'm a cool mom,
and I just made them cinnamon rolls. Yeah, you're such
a cool mom. But then what happens is then she
(18:57):
doesn't get under or whoever's talking to you, whether boy
or a girl, does not get that feeling of understanding
of like they feel something about whatever you did. And
instead of you leaning in and being like, hey, what's
going on, you're like, wait, no, I have to defend myself.
I am a cool mom. And that's not even the point.
So true. Tune in so you need therapy, Well, I
love that you're doing this series. I'm gonna be listening,
(19:20):
and I love that we're Anybody listening is going to
benefit from any type of relationship which you in Big
p I know I tease the second ago that you're
probably gonna get married, but you are I hope so probably. Yeah,
I mean I think we are. But you don't want
to jink say not. You can't if the jinx is
real on that. No, you have to speak it, say it.
(19:40):
We're getting married, Yes, I'm getting married. Yeah. I have
things that are turn ons or turn offs for people,
and I want to see where you in Big pea fall. Okay,
all right, A tattoo for you? Turn on? Turn off?
A neutral? You have tattoos. I have them, but I
don't really care. I could take it or leave it.
(20:02):
I would say that it is probably a turn off
to Patrick, I don't know. He's never said that, but
I don't think he's a tattoo guy. But you're the
one on your arm says yes, oh yes I can, Oh,
yes I can. Yeah, I like mine. When someone you're
dating responds to a text immediately, is that a turn
on or turn off? If I like them? Turn on
if I don't like them, turn off? Yeah, desperate when
(20:25):
someone's really funny, turn on whom? Yeah? I don't even
get that one? Like, oh, I hate when people have
a sense of humor. Gosh, I hate to laugh, Rose,
I mean some people. I guess it says two percent
of people out there are actually turned off by that
because they are just straight business. Sounds exciting when someone's
(20:48):
super talkative. Oh no, is it? What was Big P
like on your first date? Was he very talkative? Okay?
This is what got Big P a second date? Is he?
What's very good at conversation? But he kept hering the
conversation back on me. So I would ask him a
question and he would answer it, but then he would
always say, but what about you? And I did not
experience that a lot in dating. It was always I
(21:10):
would ask a question and they would answer it, and
then they would like wait for me to ask him
another one, like it was all about them, And I
felt like he very much wanted to learn about me.
But I will say one thing that we have talked
about before is that he interrupts a lot, which I
know that I can interrupt, but he interrupts a lot.
And maybe it's because we both like to talk and
(21:32):
we both get passionate about things, so we talk over
each other. So which horsemen do you use to address that?
We don't use any of them. We don't want the
horsemen the things you don't want to do, gotcha. So
I could say, oh, you always talk over me, but
it's like, hey, remember when we talked about how we
(21:53):
need to work on our listening skills. This would be
a great opportunity for that. Okay, Yes the horsemen are
the problem. Yes, but then there's anecdotes to each horseman,
got it. Okay, when someone's overly confident or cocky turn off.
We like the right amount of confidence. Loud talking, well,
I hope that's a turn on for Patrick because I
(22:14):
feel like I can be loud, but I think that
might turn me off. And then when someone gets jealous
or really easily you know, I don't like that, but
I can see why that would be a turn onto people. Well,
it could be seen as protective, but then there's this
line of oh it's over protective. It's like you should
trust I want you to trust me. That's the fine
(22:36):
line too. I want should be jealous, but not too
jealous exactly. Dating is so easy, or being in a
relationship is so easy. The loud talking one that's interesting
to me, of like sometimes being the most grandiose person
in the room. I can be really loud, but not
to be the attention in the room. My voice carries
(22:56):
for some reason. When I went to the museum as
a kid, they had this. It was a what is
the barometer? What would measure your it's you know, the
little I don't know what that's called, Like, it's we
have it right here right now because we're doing the
show and we're talking into microphones and we have levels
that measure what we're talking. I wish I knew what
this it's called. Gonna say, it's just kidding. It's called
(23:20):
a carousel, No it is. Maybe it's a barometer. Maybe.
So my sister and I would be saying the same
exact thing, and hers would be like bit bit barely
moving the little arrows, like because my sister is so
soft and sweet and angelic, although she's not totally that
(23:40):
is why people see. And then I am the loud
one and my barometer was like and I was saying
the same thing. It's just my voice was carrying more so.
But that's not a bad thing, so yeah, yeah, okay,
So the loud having a loud voice versus somebody trying
to be the center of attention. Those are different, right
because I feel as though loudness for a grandiose purpose
(24:04):
could be a red flag. Not that we're talking about
red flags right now. We're just talking about turn on turnoffs,
but red flags should be a turn off unless you're
into that, unless you're just really really into that. Well, Kat,
thank you for joining me for the fifth Thing, as
you always do, but also for Outweigh because we just
(24:24):
recorded this weekend's episode and Cast's going to be a
guest on that, so Outweigh we'll air on Saturday. I'll
be here Thursday for a four Things episode and we'll
be talking vision boards. I have a vision board expert
coming on. I didn't even know there was such a thing. Well,
she has a whole business around it. Sh'll mail you
(24:45):
these kits. It has like everything you need to create,
because sometimes it can be what do I do? It's confusing, intimidating.
I don't know what is this all about? But I
just got my box in the mail and I have
and opened it yet, so I can't give you the
full shi bang. But listen Thursday and you'll know kind
of what it's all about. And I have already seen
(25:07):
multiple things on my vision board that we made back
in January come true. In fact, one of them came
true last Thursday, and I was like, what, this is
crazy and it just happened. And then there's other things
that are starting to happen, and I'm doing things to
actively seek them out. You're not just sitting in your
house waiting for things to come to your front door. Correct,
(25:29):
that is not how it's working. But it's like I've
got my eye on it every day. And so that's
the point of these types of activities. It can be
something fun to do with friends and family, and it
doesn't just have to be at the beginning of the year.
Kat and I have done it together a couple of
times at the start of the year, but you could
do it now it's March. Who cares, you could do
(25:49):
it this summer. It's just what do you want for
your life? Be intentional about it. And so I'm excited
for this conversation on Thursday to have that up and Kat,
obviously you talked about you need therapy, and I'm excited
for people to check out those episodes about the series
about the Horseman, but you have need A week was
the last week of February senter. You have some really
(26:09):
good content up there for eating disorder awareness. I just
love your podcast. It is a very helpful tool for people.
But you're relatable. You're not this therapist that is on
their high horse or anything like that. You are just
You're one of us, and I love that you keep
it real and you try to put things out there
(26:29):
that are gonna be helpful people, even though it's not
a replacement for therapy disclaimer in any way, shape or form.
But I'm proud of you. Thank you, NEP doing amazing
and it's only going to grow. I hope. Yeah. Put
it on the board and the vision board. It's growing
and it will continue too, So I encourage all to
check it out. And you can also find you Need
Therapy on Instagram. The handle is at you Need Therapy
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podcast and then Kat your personal one at Kat dot
Defata and then I am at Radio Amy in my
Instagram buyer. You can check out the link tree links
to the pop up shop for Haiti. We're doing the
weekend of the live. That's going to be a lot
of fun and it's going to be bitterfitting. My life Speaks,
which is an orphanage in Haiti, we've worked with for
a while. I thought it was going to be the
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orphanage where my kids grew up. And then I went
on a walk with the founders of My Life Speak
the other day and it just really hit me some
of the things that she was sharing. I thought, Oh,
my goodness, Okay, we have this perfect thing coming up
at the end of the month. And I had gotten
an email earlier that morning that a big payment at
the orphanage where my kids grew up was being made
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and we all got to vote on it. I was like, yeah,
we'll be able to do that, and I was like, wow,
fun seem solid there right now. It is a roller
coaster ed and flop like it's not always That's not
always the case, but it was almost a very clear
sign to me speaking of paying attention to signs and
how things unfold and how divine things can be when
you're looking for it. It was one of those moments
where that morning I had seen the email about the
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orphanage and they're doing good and we voted for this
money to go, and then I walk with her and
I'm hearing about different things, and then whila, we had
this thing at the end of March a pop up
shop and then all the merch at the four Things
Live events. One hundred percent of the proceeds were going
to be going to Haiti, and I said, oh, my goodness,
we can help. At the end of the month, we've
got the pop up shop, we've got the lives, we
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can help. Boom, y'all are the recipients of the Haiti
pop up shop, Ben and the Haiti merch so and
they'll be pimp enjoy their a squaw for things. So
it'll be a lot of fun. And I just love
looking out for things like that that happen, and when
you're looking for them, you'll see them more. The signs
like my thing that came true last Thursday. It sort
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of was brought to me through another sign, and that
was my sign. I'm like, oh, that's my sign to
move forward like I see it. And then I made
it happen. Finally had to be. I'd been thinking about
it for a while, but then Thursday I got a
sign and I looked at all the other things surrounding
it and it made sense, and boom, we went for it.
And I'm like, that is crazy? What up? Okay? Kat?
Anything any final words, thank you for listening, We love
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your bye bye
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Cat. And today's quote it's from our favorite El
Royal sign, say Mel Robbins. Oh, well, if he's another favorite.
But we actually have two quotes for you today, this
one being the funnier one. I'm jealous of fahita meat.
I want to be wrapped in a warm tortilla. And
(00:28):
I'm like, oh, that sounds so comforting right now, to
just be wrapped up in a tortilla, A warm tortilla. Yeah,
if you could be wrapped up in any food, what
would you choose? Because I feel like a homemade flower tortilla.
This is I typically go corn for things, but flowers softer.
But if I'm yea and I love the smell of
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the flower tortilla. What about you? So I've never thought
about what food I would want to be wrapped up
and so I feel like I've been put on the spot.
I don't know how many. Well I have another one.
I would I wouldn't be wrapped up in this, but
I would want to jump into it a big old
bowl of spaghetti. Okay, I was gonna say that's something.
Did have you ever seen Patch Adams no, oh my,
(01:12):
you've never seen Patch Adams. If I have, I don't remember.
Oh my gosh. Okay, Well, in the movie, a woman
gets to swim in a huge, inflatable pool of spaghetti noodles. Oh,
that's so yeah. I would do that. That That would be
very comforting to me. I would jump in that before
I get wrapped up in a tortilla. But I guess
if I'm gonna be wrapped in something, it's that or
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like a big loaf of bread. But that might be
too suffocating. You know. I picture myself in a big
old thing aquiso, like just dunk me in there so
that I can just drink it. We've been doing nachos
with quieso. We just had these last night. We got chips,
laid them out, drizzled queso on top, which I had
already mixed black beans in with the quieso, so that's
(01:57):
in there too, And then we did a layer of
ground meat. I got some lettuce. You know, I love
a chopped salad. Chop chop chop. I'd already gotten the
Tailor Farms bag of chopped lettuce, so it's already chopped.
But I you really like some chopped lettuce I put
the chopped tailor farms in a bowl, and I get
my little roller thingy and I chop it up even
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more so that way it's like a sprinkle, and then
I sprinkle it on tops. You know, you're getting some greens.
I like to work that stuff in when I can.
It's easy, it's great, it's glorious. Kids eat it. I
first did it at the Super Bowl, and not at
but on the Super Bowl, had it at my house,
and then we just did it again last night, and
I'm like, okay, I need to add this into a
rotation because everybody's happy. So that's that. Okay, we're talking
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about comfort and how a tortilla would make me super comfortable,
and now we've derailed a bit. But your more serious
quote is about comfort, so yeah, ahead and share that.
So this came from an Instagram account at upworthy, and
then it's a tweet from a man. I don't know
this man, Alexander James, and it says some years back,
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my wife and I got into the habit of asking
each other do you want comfort or solutions when the
other was having a bad time. That one sentence can
save us from an argument. Nine out of ten times
love it, and you know that's in a romantic relationship,
but that could work in all kinds of relationships. I
love it. Do you want comfort or solutions? Yeah? What
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if I said both? I didn't say it that way,
comfort or solutions, but I said something similar to my sister.
She called yesterday and just needed to vent about some things.
And I said, Okay, do you need me to just
listen or do you want my thoughts on what you
just said? And she said, well, yeah, like you said,
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but it's just like, well, I really just needed to vent,
but yeah, if you have something you want to say,
say it. Yeah. Okay. So I didn't realize this. This
is a like what's it called a carousel? When there's
other I act like I'm like sixty five years old,
I should know how to use. Yes, okay, that's called
a caroself. Okay, okay, so there's other things. People reply
(04:05):
to that and gave their things, so I want to
read some of them. So this person said, I say,
would you like opinions or to just be heard? How
can I best support you right now? Do you want
a brainstorm or do you just want me to listen?
I like that one we use do you want to
hug or some help? That's so cute. That's really all
of the ones that I like. But yeah, I like that.
(04:26):
Do you want to hug or some help? Maybe a
hug as help? Right? I think that, like you said,
it could be both. Yeah, do you need a hugg
or help from me? Right now? I want to hug
as help or Some people who don't like physical touch
will say I don't want to hug, I want a
high five? Which what's your love language? Physical touch? Yeah,
I figured that one. I can't touch you right now though,
(04:46):
you're too far across the room, so in case you
ever need it. Obviously, in a romantic relationship, physical touch
can be a certain thing. But can a friend offer
someone Yeah, you mean a rubbish shoulders? Give me? How
can I help you? So it's not just about sometimes
me being touched though sometimes I just want to be
like in close proximity to the people that I'm with,
(05:09):
Or it might be me wanting to give that to
somebody else, So I might play with somebody's hair, or
I want to like lay on their shoulder as we're
watching a show. And I have a lot of friends
where like Ken, I don't want you to do that,
and I say, well, this is how you can support
me right now? Well, you can rub my shoulders okay, great,
I mean or like that even just like sometimes I
have that like massage gun thing that it's you don't
even have to touch me. We can touch through this machine.
(05:32):
You can use that like a farragun. Yeah. So our
friend Lisa, she gifted me one of those things that
you put on your shoulder and you put your arms
through it and press down. I don't know what they're
called shoulder massage thingies, don't know the official name. The
point of being able to put your arms through the
holes is to create resistance so that you can the
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more you stretch your arms out, the tighter it is
on the shoulders. Just get what I'm saying. Like it
wraps around like an like a big scarf, does it
vibrary this one doesn't. It just moves in circular motions
like the needing like at the nail salon. I want
that that sort of thing and then it heats up.
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Wait I want that, Well you can, you know, I
would like to use it. I don't need to have
my own. It's downstairs. Okay, that is me giving you
physical physical touch. You're welcome, thank you, thank you so much.
Mine's words of affirmation, So tell thank you so much.
You're such a good friend. Yours words of affirmation, except
if it's public. Oh yeah, true, yeah, you're like off
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the air. Please give me five compliments. Just tell me
I did good. Tell me, which I've learned as a three.
My worthiness does not come from outside validation, so I
shall stop seeking that. I retracted my question. I do
not need you to tell me something. I am good. Okay, fine,
I am worthy on my own. Which worthiness is a
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big theme of our live event coming up at the
end of the month in Nashville, and I'm so excited
for people to hear it and all the amazing guests
that are gonna be there, which Cat's one of them.
Oh and on my little board thingy, do you see
what I put right there? The word words a coincidence? Oh,
I did it weeks ago. I like it. I don't
know my sister. That's a gift from her. It's one
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of those boards where you can I don't know what
they're called. Letter board kidding. First we have the neck
arm shoulder thingy, and now we have she's like using
her hands to like make her you can't see her,
but she was like, it's like one of these things
that's like a rectangle. And then I was gonna say,
(07:38):
you can interchange the letters. But you're right, it is
called a letter board. I guess some people might call
it a felt board. But but you also didn't know
what a carousel was, so right, I should have made
the feel Sorry, I take it back, Well you taught
you taught me that too, I didn't know I called
it the swipey thing. Anyway. I put wordy up there
(07:59):
so that I would see that every time I'm working
in my podcast room and I would know okay worthy,
and then especially that being a big theme for the
live So I'm so excited for everybody that is coming.
We'll load up the episode on the podcast so everybody's
going to be able to hear it. I got an
email from someone today that's coming from Canada. We are international,
(08:19):
now international all the way from Canada. That's far away
from Nashville. Yeah, so I'm very excited. So those in
the room, I feel as though there's an energy in
there that's going to be amazing. But I get that
not everybody can come, so you will be able to
listen to it. But an idea we've been throwing around,
(08:39):
which I got a company name yesterday. I just have
to get a quote of how much this will cost
to professionally live stream it, and people could buy tickets
for that to cover the cost. Because I know it's
going to I talk to Ali Fallon about it, which
is another one of the guests that's going to be
on stage, and she is so wise. I can't wait
for y'all to hear from her on stage. Like her,
(09:02):
she's so good at what she does. Kat's so good
at what she does. Britney Spencer is so talented with
her music. And then I added another guest, Leanne Ellington,
who's a self image scientist. Her story is amazing too. Look,
we have so many amazing women that are going to
be on stage with us, and men will benefit from it.
This is an event where men that are there are
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going to benefit from all of these awesome women on stage.
But livestream could be a possibility. I just gotta get
to quote, and if you would be interested in that,
send an email let me know four things with Amy
Brown at gmail dot com, so maybe I can get
a head count or something. Maybe not this event, just
because this is a little last minute I'll look into
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doing it for future events. So we'll see how that goes.
But we all feel unworthy of different things at times.
So my hope is that anybody's showing up that is
not feeling worthy, they leave knowing that they absolutely are
and they deserve a full and beautiful life. Like a rainbow.
Why wouldn't you want to comfort that beautiful rainbow? You're
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gonna walk out as a beautiful rainbow. You know, Cat. Earlier,
you mentioned like the quote was from a couple like I, Hey,
I asked my partner, do you want comfort or solutions? Right?
I have the most common things couples argue about, you know, Kat,
(10:31):
Earlier you mentioned like the quote was from a couple
like I, Hey, I asked my partner do you want
comfort or solutions? Right? I have the most common things
couples argue about. Oh, you should ask me these and
I'll answer them and we can rate my current relationship. Okay,
not turning the lights off after leaving the room. I
get mad at that. Yes, not wiping down kitchen counters
(10:54):
and surfaces. No, y'all both do that, well? I think
I just take that as my thing to do. Okay, yeah,
leaving what towels lying around? No, what to watch on TV?
We don't argue about that. We just never can find
something who pays the bills. Well, we pay our own okay, good, Well,
y'all are well. You're gonna get married soon. I hope
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what the thermostat should be set to? No, I think
we both like to be cold. You're supposed to have
it colder at night to sleep better. Wait, really that's
what they say. It's supposed to be said at sixty something.
Can't remember the number, but somebody thought, Oh, I don't
like being cold when I sleep. But I'm onto honestly
willing to do whatever to get the best night's sleep,
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So I'm probably gonna have to start trying it. Not
loading the dishwasher correctly, No, we don't really use the
dishwasher that often. Your hand wash, yeah, good for you.
I guess I don't know. I don't know if it's better.
I love the dishwasher, and I do get annoyed if
it's not loaded correctly. App Like, how is it loaded? Wrong?
Things just being all put in the wrong way, stuff
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that I feel should be on the top that ends
up on the bottom, or vice versa, or the silverware.
You can organize it a certain way so that when
you're putting the silverware away when it's clean, it's a
much more efficient process. I just feel as though there's
ways that you can load the dishwasher. I probably get
that from my mom because I think she used to
get annoyed at me for not loading it correctly. So
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it's hereditary. That means you think of another quote that
I had read for today That thought was funny, and
it says, I just go with the flow as long
as I know where the flow is going, and it's
going precisely where ADS like to go. I'm go with
the flow with how the dishwasher is loaded, as long
as it's loaded exactly how I like it. Yeah, another
(12:44):
thing on here, wearing shoes inside the house. No I
do that? Do you do that in your house? We
wear shoes? Shoes in your house? I want to be
a no shoe household. But okay, I've not. I've thought.
I've said that for years and I have not been
able to implement it, nor have I tried. It's just
it's a dream, big dream pipe, dream pipe dream not
double locking the doors at night. People fight about that.
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No leaving windows open when one goes out. No, yeah,
I don't. Wow, this very specific. Two thousand adults. Well
that's the only five percent of people that sparks an
argument about, Like, oh wow, they must have a really
good relationship otherwise. Yeah, those are like the little things
that you really get mad at those things because there's
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something else really happening kind of thing which makes me
think of I did a couple of weeks ago and
I'm still in it. So this is good. People can
have something to look forward to. But I started a
series on Unique Therapy on the four Horsemen of the
Apocalypse of relationships, which do you know what that is?
I would assume it means the end, Like these four
things contribute to the end of a relationship, so otherwise
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known as a breakup. Yes, yes, the end of a relationship.
They were created by this guy. His name is John Gottman.
He's like the go to person when it comes to
couples and relationships and stuff like that in the therapy world.
And he I remember learning in school and it caught
my attention because I was like, I want to know
more about that. He can predict within nine and be
(14:14):
right whether a relationship is going to succeed or fail
based on these four things that he came up with,
which again I'm doing a series on it. So the
first one came out this week and it's on criticism,
and then the rest of them are contempt, defensiveness, and stonewalling.
And the good news is I talk about those, but
then I give the antidote, so then you don't maybe
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have the breakup. So it's if someone criticizes things a lot,
like they didn't load the dishwasher correctly, or I'll give
you a little bit of a tease. Because with criticism,
it's interesting because there's a difference between criticizing somebody and
complaining about something, and a complaint can be really helpful.
When I criticize somebody, I'm criticizing like their character. I'm
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not focusing on a behavior. So let's say I am
upset about the dishwasher and I'm like, oh, you never
load the dishwasher correctly, You're so dumb. That's criticism versus like, hey,
you know, I love that you tried to help me
load the dishwasher. I have the specific way of doing
it and I'd like to share it with you so
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the dishes get the cleanest they can get. You're saying, hey,
I love that you did this. Let me show you
how we can do it better without being like you're
so stupid. Why wouldn't you know how to load the dishwasher? Right?
I mean, hopefully you would never say it like that.
But that's why he has the ability to predict these relationships,
because really these things are how we're communicating with people.
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And so this whole thing is about with relationships is
it's not so much if we have conflict or we
don't have conflict, it's how do we manage it when
we have it? Because you're gonna have it? Do I
manage it by yelling at you and calling you names
or stonewalling you and withdrawing or becoming defensive and not
being able to hear you? Which I know what stillballing is,
but someone else might not. So can you explain it?
(16:03):
I know it'll be the fourth episode of this series
that you're doing. But just a quick definition, it's basically
like putting like a hand up or turning your back.
It's shutting down versus leaning in and really trying to
understand somebody or being understood yourself. I mean an easy
example of that is if you get in a fight.
I have done this in my life. If you get
in a fight with somebody and instead of being like, okay, listen,
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my feelings were really hurt when I heard this. This
is what I made up in my head about that,
and I want to have a conversation. You just turn
your back. Whether you're in the car you just start
looking out the window, or if you're in bed, you
just turn your back and go to sleep. And you're withdrawing,
and you really are trying to get them to be like, hey,
are you okay over there? But you're withdrawing and you
(16:47):
can't withdraw your way into connecting with somebody, and so
he gives the Okay, if this is what you want
to do, this is what actually you can do to
actually get the kneed met that you're looking for in
the relationship. Ok this is going to be a good series.
I'm here. I try to do it in one episode
and I was like, there's so much information and it's
so interesting, and again, you can apply to any relationship.
(17:08):
It's not just your romantic partner. Because if you're criticizing
me all day long. I don't think that we will
be able to do this. Back to your criticism example,
I am guilty of. Maybe another category is not just criticism,
(17:32):
but using the words always or never that is it. Yeah,
I've done that, but when yeah, when you step back,
it's like, Okay, this person hasn't always. And then I
notice my twelve year old doing the same thing to me,
and so then I'm like, oh gosh, I don't know
where we get it from, but children are doing it.
And then as adults we know better because you know
(17:53):
it's not always or never, but then you're pinning that
on them. And so for me, this I can always
be for myself. Seeing a kid do it and knowing
that I've done it makes me feel like a kid.
And maybe I am going back to some form of
my childhood and that was how I well, you always
do this, It's like, well, no, we always. It's an
immature way to get a nan met when there are
(18:13):
better ways. As a kid, you don't really know. But
when we do that, when we exaggerate it. We all
have said that before, like they never do this or
they always do this, it's because it feels that big
to you. In the moment and you're trying to get
your point across. But when one of your kids says
to you, you never let us do anything fun, what
do you start thinking about? Well, I immediately want to
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say I do lots of fun things exactly. So you
start being defensive, which is another one of the horsemen.
And the thing is it's not about like when I
say you never do this. Then you start being like,
wait no, like I'm not a bad mom, Like I
am fun, I'm so fun, Like I'm a cool mom,
and I just made them cinnamon rolls. Yeah, you're such
a cool mom. But then what happens is then she
(18:57):
doesn't get under or whoever's talking to you, whether boy
or a girl, does not get that feeling of understanding
of like they feel something about whatever you did. And
instead of you leaning in and being like, hey, what's
going on, you're like, wait, no, I have to defend myself.
I am a cool mom. And that's not even the point.
So true. Tune in so you need therapy, Well, I
love that you're doing this series. I'm gonna be listening,
(19:20):
and I love that we're Anybody listening is going to
benefit from any type of relationship which you in Big
p I know I tease the second ago that you're
probably gonna get married, but you are I hope so probably. Yeah,
I mean I think we are. But you don't want
to jink say not. You can't if the jinx is
real on that. No, you have to speak it, say it.
(19:40):
We're getting married, Yes, I'm getting married. Yeah. I have
things that are turn ons or turn offs for people,
and I want to see where you in Big pea fall. Okay,
all right, A tattoo for you? Turn on? Turn off?
A neutral? You have tattoos. I have them, but I
don't really care. I could take it or leave it.
(20:02):
I would say that it is probably a turn off
to Patrick, I don't know. He's never said that, but
I don't think he's a tattoo guy. But you're the
one on your arm says yes, oh yes I can, Oh,
yes I can. Yeah, I like mine. When someone you're
dating responds to a text immediately, is that a turn
on or turn off? If I like them? Turn on
if I don't like them, turn off? Yeah, desperate when
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someone's really funny, turn on whom? Yeah? I don't even
get that one? Like, oh, I hate when people have
a sense of humor. Gosh, I hate to laugh, Rose,
I mean some people. I guess it says two percent
of people out there are actually turned off by that
because they are just straight business. Sounds exciting when someone's
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super talkative. Oh no, is it? What was Big P
like on your first date? Was he very talkative? Okay?
This is what got Big P a second date? Is he?
What's very good at conversation? But he kept hering the
conversation back on me. So I would ask him a
question and he would answer it, but then he would
always say, but what about you? And I did not
experience that a lot in dating. It was always I
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would ask a question and they would answer it, and
then they would like wait for me to ask him
another one, like it was all about them, And I
felt like he very much wanted to learn about me.
But I will say one thing that we have talked
about before is that he interrupts a lot, which I
know that I can interrupt, but he interrupts a lot.
And maybe it's because we both like to talk and
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we both get passionate about things, so we talk over
each other. So which horsemen do you use to address that?
We don't use any of them. We don't want the
horsemen the things you don't want to do, gotcha. So
I could say, oh, you always talk over me, but
it's like, hey, remember when we talked about how we
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need to work on our listening skills. This would be
a great opportunity for that. Okay, Yes the horsemen are
the problem. Yes, but then there's anecdotes to each horseman,
got it. Okay, when someone's overly confident or cocky turn off.
We like the right amount of confidence. Loud talking, well,
I hope that's a turn on for Patrick because I
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feel like I can be loud, but I think that
might turn me off. And then when someone gets jealous
or really easily you know, I don't like that, but
I can see why that would be a turn onto people. Well,
it could be seen as protective, but then there's this
line of oh it's over protective. It's like you should
trust I want you to trust me. That's the fine
(22:36):
line too. I want should be jealous, but not too
jealous exactly. Dating is so easy, or being in a
relationship is so easy. The loud talking one that's interesting
to me, of like sometimes being the most grandiose person
in the room. I can be really loud, but not
to be the attention in the room. My voice carries
(22:56):
for some reason. When I went to the museum as
a kid, they had this. It was a what is
the barometer? What would measure your it's you know, the
little I don't know what that's called, Like, it's we
have it right here right now because we're doing the
show and we're talking into microphones and we have levels
that measure what we're talking. I wish I knew what
this it's called. Gonna say, it's just kidding. It's called
(23:20):
a carousel, No it is. Maybe it's a barometer. Maybe.
So my sister and I would be saying the same
exact thing, and hers would be like bit bit barely
moving the little arrows, like because my sister is so
soft and sweet and angelic, although she's not totally that
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is why people see. And then I am the loud
one and my barometer was like and I was saying
the same thing. It's just my voice was carrying more so.
But that's not a bad thing, so yeah, yeah, okay,
So the loud having a loud voice versus somebody trying
to be the center of attention. Those are different, right
because I feel as though loudness for a grandiose purpose
(24:04):
could be a red flag. Not that we're talking about
red flags right now. We're just talking about turn on turnoffs,
but red flags should be a turn off unless you're
into that, unless you're just really really into that. Well, Kat,
thank you for joining me for the fifth Thing, as
you always do, but also for Outweigh because we just
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recorded this weekend's episode and Cast's going to be a
guest on that, so Outweigh we'll air on Saturday. I'll
be here Thursday for a four Things episode and we'll
be talking vision boards. I have a vision board expert
coming on. I didn't even know there was such a thing. Well,
she has a whole business around it. Sh'll mail you
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these kits. It has like everything you need to create,
because sometimes it can be what do I do? It's confusing, intimidating.
I don't know what is this all about? But I
just got my box in the mail and I have
and opened it yet, so I can't give you the
full shi bang. But listen Thursday and you'll know kind
of what it's all about. And I have already seen
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multiple things on my vision board that we made back
in January come true. In fact, one of them came
true last Thursday, and I was like, what, this is
crazy and it just happened. And then there's other things
that are starting to happen, and I'm doing things to
actively seek them out. You're not just sitting in your
house waiting for things to come to your front door. Correct,
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that is not how it's working. But it's like I've
got my eye on it every day. And so that's
the point of these types of activities. It can be
something fun to do with friends and family, and it
doesn't just have to be at the beginning of the year.
Kat and I have done it together a couple of
times at the start of the year, but you could
do it now it's March. Who cares, you could do
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it this summer. It's just what do you want for
your life? Be intentional about it. And so I'm excited
for this conversation on Thursday to have that up and Kat,
obviously you talked about you need therapy, and I'm excited
for people to check out those episodes about the series
about the Horseman, but you have need A week was
the last week of February senter. You have some really
(26:09):
good content up there for eating disorder awareness. I just
love your podcast. It is a very helpful tool for people.
But you're relatable. You're not this therapist that is on
their high horse or anything like that. You are just
You're one of us, and I love that you keep
it real and you try to put things out there
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that are gonna be helpful people, even though it's not
a replacement for therapy disclaimer in any way, shape or form.
But I'm proud of you. Thank you, NEP doing amazing
and it's only going to grow. I hope. Yeah. Put
it on the board and the vision board. It's growing
and it will continue too, So I encourage all to
check it out. And you can also find you Need
Therapy on Instagram. The handle is at you Need Therapy
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podcast and then Kat your personal one at Kat dot
Defata and then I am at Radio Amy in my
Instagram buyer. You can check out the link tree links
to the pop up shop for Haiti. We're doing the
weekend of the live. That's going to be a lot
of fun and it's going to be bitterfitting. My life Speaks,
which is an orphanage in Haiti, we've worked with for
a while. I thought it was going to be the
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orphanage where my kids grew up. And then I went
on a walk with the founders of My Life Speak
the other day and it just really hit me some
of the things that she was sharing. I thought, Oh,
my goodness, Okay, we have this perfect thing coming up
at the end of the month. And I had gotten
an email earlier that morning that a big payment at
the orphanage where my kids grew up was being made
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and we all got to vote on it. I was like, yeah,
we'll be able to do that, and I was like, wow,
fun seem solid there right now. It is a roller
coaster ed and flop like it's not always That's not
always the case, but it was almost a very clear
sign to me speaking of paying attention to signs and
how things unfold and how divine things can be when
you're looking for it. It was one of those moments
where that morning I had seen the email about the
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orphanage and they're doing good and we voted for this
money to go, and then I walk with her and
I'm hearing about different things, and then whila, we had
this thing at the end of March a pop up
shop and then all the merch at the four Things
Live events. One hundred percent of the proceeds were going
to be going to Haiti, and I said, oh, my goodness,
we can help. At the end of the month, we've
got the pop up shop, we've got the lives, we
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can help. Boom, y'all are the recipients of the Haiti
pop up shop, Ben and the Haiti merch so and
they'll be pimp enjoy their a squaw for things. So
it'll be a lot of fun. And I just love
looking out for things like that that happen, and when
you're looking for them, you'll see them more. The signs
like my thing that came true last Thursday. It sort
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of was brought to me through another sign, and that
was my sign. I'm like, oh, that's my sign to
move forward like I see it. And then I made
it happen. Finally had to be. I'd been thinking about
it for a while, but then Thursday I got a
sign and I looked at all the other things surrounding
it and it made sense, and boom, we went for it.
And I'm like, that is crazy? What up? Okay? Kat?
Anything any final words, thank you for listening, We love
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your bye bye
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