Chrissy grew up in her parents retail and shoe stores. From an early age she knew she had a creative spark. She quickly landed the lead role in a Blake Shelton music video and knew she had to pursue acting. After moving to LA, she was cast in another Country Music Star’s Video, Frankie Ballard’s “A Buncha Girls.” But this video was different. From the second Frankie and Chrissy met, sparks flew. 2 weeks later he flew her out for their first date to meet him on the road and watch him play shows. After that they were inseparable. Chrissy realized that acting was no longer her dream, and she wanted to leave LA to be with Frankie in Nashville. But she didn’t want to lose her creative outlet, so she prayed to God for a new dream. And woah, did God answer. Chrissy went back to her family roots of loving shoes and retail and created a Boot Empire named OLD SMOKEYS BOOTS where she has celebrity clients from Lucy Hale to Miranda Lambert. She gets old vintage boots and leather and makes super-funky-cool-one-of-a-kind cowboy boots, belts and purses. Chrissy also talks the secrets to her fruitful/spiritual marriage with Frankie, dealing with the grief of suddenly losing her father, and what a successful life looks like to her.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Carola, She's not afraid. Hey guys, I'm so pumped. On
this episode of Get Real podcast, I have Chrissie Ballard
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joining me. She is just a beautiful, bright light. She's
married to Frankie Ballard and they are just basically a
supermodel couple. They look like they're out of a movie,
they're so good looking. But on top of that, they're
such incredible people. We walked through Chrissie and Frankie's love story.
They met when she was cast to be on his
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music video. They fell in love and stilly. The first
date they had, he basically asked her to go on
the road with him and from there on it was
just sparks. They never broke up. They did long distance
for a while because she was acting in l a
and then she ended up moving to Nashville. She and
Frankie are both so spiritual, and she knew that she
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wanted to be with him in Nashville and her dream
of acting was fading, but she needed a new dream
because she's so creative. She always knew she needed to
create and she prayed to God and he brought her
a completely new dream. And it's old Smoky Boots, which
you guys have to check it out. She has designed
these most incredible creative, funky boots from Miranda Lambert for
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Lucy Hale. She just got to write up in People Magazine.
She's amazing and it's just so cool to see how
her prayers of an answer. We talk a lot about that,
she's a prayer journal, that she has recorded all these
prayers and signs from God that have been answered and
branking her. They have an hour of more of spiritual
morning time every day to start their day off with
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God the Sinner. They're just such an incredible couple. She
walks me through the grief of losing her father and
she's very raw about that, and I appreciate her sharing
that because I know a lot of people struggle with
grief and she was very honest about it and just
how there is no right or wrong way to grieve.
And she then tells me about her wild West theme marriage,
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how she and Frankie got married, uh, in a wild
West town. It's amazing. They're such great people and this
is just such a um, feel good, spiritual, uplifting podcast
that I can't wait for you all to hear it.
So here's Chrissy Ballard. Okay, I'm here with Chrissie Ballard,
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who came up walking up my driveway looking like a
supermodel with I mean just literally a knockout and I'm
hiding I have a hat on. I'm super cash girl.
Oh god, I just have to apologize because I mean,
I can't eat, I can't even I don't even try.
Girl today, you always look so cute. Seriously be this
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tiny little bone. Being deep into my pregnancy now like
seven and a half months, I really the thought of
I used to really consider myself like kind of cute
and sexy, but I just don't feel that way anymore.
You are, though. In't that crazy that you can't see
yourself the way that we can, because every time I've
seen you out, I'm just like obsessed with you. Yeah,
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you always look so cute. It's a it's it's a
new kind of admiration for my body because I'm so
thankful of what it's doing, growing this baby and you know,
bringing new life into the world. But like, I just
don't feel like the hot, hot machine that I used
to be back in the day. Oh You're wonderful, will
ever come back? You know? And that's so crazy? That
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we can't hear what you're thinking about, but to us, like,
you're so cute, and everyone just like all they see
is this tiny little bump and you just look so
cute and everything you wear. Yeah, you are so sweet. Okay,
so we start. I'm gonna start off by telling everyone
who your husband is, which is Frankie Ballard. God, he's
so cute too, I'm telling you he is. I love
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that he looks like a bad boy. He's got this chiseled,
handsome face and all these tattoos. But he is the
most unbelievable man. I know why he's so unbelieving. He
looks like James Dean. He does. I mean he truly
does his leather jackets on, his style throwback. He's like
vintage he is. And he grew up on so many
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of those classic singers like Elvis, and so he can
do moves like Elvis. And he got the moves, oh
he does. He can do all the leg movements. Um,
he can dance. He can dance like most amazing dancers.
He can do the Chuck Berry duck walk. He can
do everything. I don't even know what that is. Yeah,
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I mean I tried to do it. In our kitchen
one day and made him laugh so hard. It's where
Chuck would like hold the guitar and then kick a
foot up while hopping on the other foot, and so
you're gonna know what I'm talking about when you see it.
But he he makes it look cool. And I just
looked so lanky and practically fell over and it was
a funny moment. Is that what made you fall in
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love with him? Was his moves? That and just he
was so charming when I met him. I met him
on a music video set. Okay, so talk to me
about that. Because you were living in l A. I
was living in l A. You moved out there to
be an actress. I was doing the acting thing, and
this was at a point where acting had kind of
slowed down, and a producer friend of mine had asked
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me to do his music video, and so this was
just a job for me. I wasn't really thinking that
I'm going to meet my future husband. Um And so
I showed up to said I was one of the
first girls, and he came right over after filming, and
I was nervous. I was nervous because he was so
handsome and he was so cute. The way he came
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up and like introduced himself and and you know, made
a cheeky joke to me about you know, I just
don't know if you're going to do for the video.
And I was like in full hair and makeup, and
I thought, oh, no, this isn't just a video. Like
I think. I think there's like a spark with this guy.
Love you. I think I want to marry you that
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Um well, I didn't have that exact thought at that time,
but I knew this was no longer a job. I mean,
it was like a spiritual I knew something was happening.
What happened? What did he do? It was just his presence.
Like most artists when they're on set, people are carrying
their things, and he would offer to move my bags,
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or he would ask if I needed anything, or we
always found each other on set. And there was three
other girls on this music video who were also probably
thinking he was super handsome and wanting to know if
he was single, But we just found each other throughout
the day, and um, there was just something so different
about him than any other man I had ever met.
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What music video was it for? It was called a
Bunch of Girls. There was a bunch of girls, but
then there was one. Oh okay, so did he feel
it to you right away? He did, he said, um,
I believe it was his agent or manager at the
time walked over and said something like, well, you know,
are you interested in any of the because you know,
there's four of us girls there and the other girls,
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to be really fair, were beautiful, like beautiful girls, super sweet. Um.
And he pointed to me and I had this I
had this little sure that I made a dress. Um.
So it was really small, and he pointed to me
and yeah, I think we both just felt a connection,
like we just wanted to get to know each other more. Okay,
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So then how did you pursue it? Okay? So I
was the only one that didn't ask for a picture
with him all day cool plain cool and the other girls,
but they were definitely around him more and he would
come find me and talk to me. So at the
end of the day he asked to have a picture
with you with me, and then he asked with you
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he did I had to work its sister. I was
just I was like, yes, my plan is working. Um.
So we're in the back of this van headed back
to the first location. We took a picture and then
he said, well, let me send it to you. So
we got my number okay, and then we texted that
in other ways too. Yeah, he sure does. Um texted
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that whole night and I didn't realize he lived in Nashville. Okay.
So I'm in l A. And he has to fly home,
and I was so sad. I was already sad that
he had to go home. So that's the introduction story. Then,
how did it was an instant? I started dating immediately?
How's the first date? What happened the first day? It
was amazing? Okay. So he's in Nashville, I'm in l A.
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He calls, we're texting, so this is all over the phone.
How old are y'all? How many years ago is this? Okay?
So this was about eight years ago, eight years ago
in May. Okay. So y'all working on a decade here? Yeah,
I like that. Let's just round up that, um. Okay.
So two weeks go by, I'm just talking on the
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phone and he said, I would love for you to
just come out on the road. I've got this run.
I'm going on tour with Bob Seeker or he had
been on tour with Bob Seeker. I think this was
one of the last shows. I've got some club dates,
I've got a stadium show. What do you think that's
a way to impress somebody. Well, this was a whole
new world for me. I was single, and I was
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ready for an adventure, and I pretty much said yes immediately,
just at the one time. Yeah, just the one time.
But we had talked on the phone so much. And
I knew that he was classy. I knew that he
was a gentleman. Like did you think, like we're you
gonna sleep, I gonna share a book? Yeah, I of
course I thought of all this stuff. And I are
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living together instantly on the bus. But here's how God
prepared me. My brother in law was on the PGA
tour at the time, so he's a professional golfer. He was.
He still plays occasionally, but he was and I knew
bus life. They had. My sister and brother in law
had a four wheeler. They is that what it's called.
(10:23):
I feel like that's not right, a fifth wheel? Like
what you mean he didn't travel on a four wheeler.
It was a fifth wheel, so it's not quite a bus.
Oh yeah, I don't think they're traveling at a four wheeler. Sorry, Shonah,
that was not the right thing. But it's like it
is a bus in the sense that it's got the
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pop out. It's just a little bit smaller than a
tour bus. Um, so I knew how to travel, like
I knew how to to hang. So did you get
in your own book? Were you sharing? Was there a
ve know you're gonna go here? Okay? So actually this
was a four and a half day run. Oh okay,
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Well you're going to know for sure after this four
and half day run if you all have a connection
and can work it out, Oh for sure. And it was.
It was seamless. It was so much fun with him. Nervous, Well, yes,
because I liked him so much, but no, because I
was fully myself and this was the first time with
anyone where I just felt like I could be completely crissy.
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And I remember him saying that on the same trip
that he just felt like he could just be himself.
And I remember looking at his cell phone. Um, he
was I think we were exchanging like Twitter accounts, Like
that's how new this was. He was like, I want
to follow you, and I was like, I want to
follow you, and I remember seeing he had the Bible
app on his phone, and I remember thinking, I know,
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I'm gonna fall in love with this guy because I
had never met anyone that had that app on their iPhone.
And he has the balance. He's got the bad boy
midge like singer, like got that whole swag thing going.
But then he's a good, just wholesome, great guy with
moral values. Oh yes, that's the unicorn. He's definitely unicorn.
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I tell him all the time, like I'll touch his
back and I was like, I know there's some angel
wings back here somewhere, like he's just this special human.
And I knew that from from that trip. So to
answer your question, I had my own whole bunk set up.
Never made it into bog. We were very respectful and
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we snuggled for sure. And actually on the last night,
his parents were on the bus, sweet and family too.
I met his parents the last day of that trip,
and it was a good meeting. It was unbelievable, I mean,
and I had prophecy that we would be doing this
over and over again in our life, that I would
be in the stands in a seat watching him on
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stage with his parents over and over and over again.
It was like a feeling. Do you get prophecy a lot?
I do tend to get you get visions or feelings, feelings? Yeah,
Sometimes it's vision, sometimes it's feelings. Sometimes it's a a word.
Sometimes it'll just fall out of my mouth. And it's
just like the Spirit movie through you. Totally, totally. And
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the more I talk about it and the more that
I tell other people, I feel like the stronger it gets.
So was it a feeling? You just had this feeling
I will be doing this all the time. It was
definitely a feeling. So he was at a stadium show
in Detroit for Bob Seeger Guys from Michigan, and it
was it was a feeling but also a vision of
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I'm going to see his dad walking around the stadium
listening to all the different you know, areas where he
can hear Frankie and I'll be sitting next to his
mom and we'll be videoing, and it was it was
a prophecy of like what my future was going to
look like. So it was both, Wow, yeah, that's amazing
and that has certainly come true. It sure has. So
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after that weekend where you're all just hot to trot,
like this is happening. DTR made it official. Oh yeah,
he called and he was he was so sweet. I
just love I love this man so much. He asked
me to be his girlfriend, be exclusive right after that trip,
and I had never had that before. I never had
a man pursue me, called you and asked you to
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be his girlfriend. He did. It was it was the
sweet day. I think he might have been headed into
a sound check. It was early in the morning. And
how did he say it? I need to know. It
was pardon me, baby if I get this wrong, But
it was super romantic and he was like, I just
had the best week with you. We get along so well.
He's like, I don't want to see anybody else. I
don't want you to see anybody else. He's like, this
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might be too early, but what do you think we'll like?
Would you be my girlfriend? And of course, I mean
the answer was yes. From honestly, the moment that I
went out on tour that week, just no reservations, not never, never,
maybe even from the moment I met him, I just
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knew something was brewing. And you have never felt that
way about anyone before, never, never, no, So would you
say you do believe in soulmates. Oh? Absolutely. What is
the difference between dating people that you try to make
it work with and then meeting your soulmates? Got everything
we say all the time to have become one? We
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I we feel that we feel like we're one. When
he wins, I feel like I'm winning. When he's down,
I feel like I'm down in vice versa. And it's
almost unexplainable, but I am the happiest when I'm like
pressed up against him. It's like spirit to spirit. I
can't get enough of it. Like I'm truly obsessed with
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my husband. Oh my god, you together enough for eight
years and it has not dwindled. No, if anything increases,
he probably should be scared at how much I love it.
I have a feeling it's mutual. I feel very blessed.
I do feel like it's mutual. But you have feeling
like you know, Michael's your best friend? Yes, yes, it
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is definitely when you have something excitated a lot of people.
Michael and I broke up for a little while. We
dated people before, and it's just when you're with someone
that you're supposed to be with, it is a very
it's a very amazing feeling. Yeah, it's unbelievable. I wish
that everyone got the opportunity to feel that. I it
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breaks my heart for the people who haven't or who
have lost it, um because I don't think there's anything better,
truly just to have that your person. But the thing
I love about you is you got you seem to
just fully embrace each other, like because a lot of
people who get into this life is very hard for
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the spouse to handle it. And it doesn't seem to
me like you've ever had that issue. I think that
you have some adjustment that you had to get used to,
or was it like right away you're ready for this
crazy life. I do feel like I was born for it.
One my family prepared me for it. How so. Uh,
we traveled a lot when I was a kid, but
a lot of adventures. Got to see a lot of
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the United States, um my sister and brother in law,
and and seeing their life and traveling with them a
little bit, and going out and watching the tour life
and seeing how my sister was when he had to work.
I mean, I was picking up all these clues of
you know how it is at a sound check or
at a show or a meet and greet, and I
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feel like it was just in my blood to just
kind of know what to do. And yeah, I don't
know how to explain it other than I just feel
like I was I was ready for it, um, so
I don't feel like there was an adjustment. But I
was also in the acting world, so I understood the
entertainment aspect of it. And and I think Frankie really
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appreciated that I got it too, because I think that
does make it easier on her husband when we understand wait, no, baby,
you go to that dinner because that's work. Like, I'm
totally fine, I'll stay home. I'll be here waiting for you.
I want to hear all about it, but I don't
necessarily have to be there if this is work. And
I feel like Frankie makes it, makes it a point
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to include you in his too. Oh yeah, it's not
like you're ever feeling like you're being left behind, like
if you if you can't go for some sort of reason. Yeah,
you totally get it. Oh, absolutely absolutely, And we have
fun at those events together. I mean, yes, he'll take
me anywhere. And sometimes I'm like, wait, this is work,
you're gonna get distracted, and you're gonna want to talk
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about me, and we need to talk about you. So
do you love to talk about you? He's so proud.
I saw him posting all over his Instagram about your
People article with Old Smokey's boots, like he cannot get enough.
He's which, he's my biggest fan. I got to talk
about your boots, but he is your biggest fan. I yeah,
Like that's what I'm talking about. How did I get
this superhuman husband? Like I just I feel so blessed.
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I don't want to say unworthy of it, because I
feel like God chose him for me. But I just
feel incredibly blessed that he likes what I'm doing and
that he's proud and he wants to talk about it.
That's talk to me about how he is with your business.
He's instrumental. I mean truly, he has lifted me up
from the beginning. I came to him with this crazy
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idea out of nowhere. Well, and you were transitioning because
you were an actress in l A. You met Frankie
and then you fell in love with him, and you
said you were finding a new dream all of a sudden,
Like I felt like acting was sort of like leaving
and a new dream was taking his place, which is,
you're this incredible boot designer and like leather designer, you
would do all sorts of things belts like purses and
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things like all sorts of things. But how did how
did that one flow in? And yeah, and then how
is Frankie instrumental? I said, to give people a little backstory?
Thank you? That was good. Um, yes, acting door, I
felt like was closing because I wanted to be with
him more than I ever wanted to continue to pursue acting,
because what did that even mean? Like if I can't
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be with him? So old smokies came from a prayer,
many prayers really actually, um, explain Okay, So this was
I loved acting. That was why moved out there. That
I thought that was going to be what I was
going for. But then I met him and I thought,
wait a second, that is the life that I want.
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I want to be with him. I said, God, you
know my heart, you know how much I love acting.
I need a new dream and I need to have
something of my own so that I can move to
Nashville and I can help support his dream, but have
something going on for myself. Um, it's very profound of
you to like know that you needed that. Well, I
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have to create. If I don't get to create, I
feel this blockage and I I just need to be
able to express myself. So I woke up one morning
in Los Angeles. I just took a bunch of stuff
out of my closet, a pair of boots I had
never even worn, and just whipped up the first pair
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of old Smokey's started wearing it to some of his concerts,
and people were like, where did you get your boots?
I could hear this because you put like all sorts
of stuff on boots, Like, tell, tell everyone listening, your
boots are like okay. So I take vintage boots, sometimes
new boots, sometimes customers boots, and I reworked them into
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funky one of the kind's. I like to call them
red carpet pieces for every day. So, um, you know,
I might chopped the top and put a bunch of
chain or studs, metal belts. They get funky real fast. Um.
And I was wearing them around and I could hear people.
So I remember calling Frankie from l A and saying, Babe,
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I want to do this, like I want to take
boots and rework them and make them modern and funky,
and I want to sell them. And he could have
said anything, and he was like, I think that's an
amazing idea, and he just went with it, and sure enough,
a few months later found myself in Nashville. He asked
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me to move in with him, and because he was
so classy, he was never going to ask me to leave,
acting that had to come for me. That's really awesome. Well,
that's because he's such a gentleman, like he didn't want
you to give up on your dream. Yeah, he wasn't
gonna gonna give up on his dream. Yeah, he didn't
want to take that away from me. So my heart
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completely I changed. I was so excited about Old Smokey's.
Had no idea really what I was doing, but I
knew I now had my new dream, which allowed me
to move. And now I can't even believe I've got
this little company. That's I feel so blessed. Mariana Lamb
in my boot. I know she's in like lots of
your boots. I ran into her um recently. Well, I
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mean it's just also interconnected. I love the puzzle pieces
of life but a sweet girlfriend of mine, Casimira, sent
her stylist a message and just said, Hey, my girlfriend
does Old Smokey's boots. If you guys ever you know,
want to collaborate, we would love to just show you
what we've got. Well, I think I probably had like
two boots in the workshop at that time. But I
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met with her stylist, Tiffany Gifford, and got Tiffany's story
and Miranda's camp and Tiffany are so classy. They don't
take anything as a gift. They buy their product. Miranda
does not take gifts product, No, she buys it. So
Tiffany and I came up with this idea and we
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made one pair of boots. Miranda fell in love, and
then we ended up making I think four or five
more pair Gosh belts, yeah, and five or six belts,
and she was like top of your top dream client
number one. Number one was like, what is even happening
right now? I mean, I still can't believe it. And
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you have Lucy Hale. Lucy Hale was the first one.
She crashed my website. Yeah, okay, talked, how did that happen? Well,
this was when Instagram was still I feel like pretty new.
No one was really posting product on Instagram like they
are now, and she posted a thank you with a
picture of boots on her bed and tagged me, And
I woke up to a slew of phone calls. My
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website had crashed, like everything was sold out. I'm amazing
as that. I'm surprised that even had anything up on
the website. I mean, I'm like a one woman show,
and everything I had was gone because of Lucy. Oh
my gosh. Yeah, so your dream was real. All of
a sudden, you have this real life dream happening so fast.
Isn't that crazy how fast it happened? It honestly is.
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And it was all based around prayer and God and
continuing to just ask him to be like the president
of Old Smokey's and saying, this is you gave me
this dream. I didn't even know I had the skills
to do this, Like I had never reworked a pair
of boots in my life, and now, all of a sudden,
my hands know exactly what to do and I know
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what tools to go by. That's sort of unexplainable, because
how do you You You didn't even know what tools existed.
I didn't even know that a whole punch could change
my life doing old Smokey's. I mean, I was buying
stuff at the very beginning at Joe and Fabrics and
Hobby Lobby and figuring it out like super gluing stuff.
So now I'm at the leather store buying real leather
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working tools, working with real you know, uh chisels, and
it's just all of a sudden, all these skills just
came to me. Are you serious? Yes? I mean yeah, this,
this whole dream is seriously built on faith. So talk
to me about your faith, because we were talking earlier.
You have a prayer journal. I do, and I think
(26:03):
this is amazing, So tell me about this. Okay. So
the prayer fits into this, oh absolutely. I mean that's
why I love telling the story of Oltz Movies because
it's seriously just came about from a prayer. Um. So,
my prayer journals started pretty quickly after my father passed.
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So he passed a couple like two and a half
years ago, and lots of questions for God, just things
I never really thought about, and a lot of new
prayers that needed to go up for my mom and
my grandparents and my sister and myself and Frankie's grieving
a lot of family members, and I just wanted to
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record prayers and when they were answered. And then when
you flip the prayer journal over, it's signs from heaven.
And um, I think I told you early. Or this
book is almost full, and I'll write scripture in there,
and I'll write stories, dreams, other prophecy that I've had
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encounters with people that are uh, that have been from
my journal, Like I might see a sign or I
might be thinking of something and someone would say the
exact things. Oh yeah, I mean this this book is
just one thing after another of just affirming God is
who he says he is. Wow. Okay, can you share
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some of your prayers that have been answered? Oh my gosh,
I should I knew I should have looked through this morning. Um.
One that's pretty wild was recently I just went to
have you heard of anything called a discipleship walk? Okay,
So it's three days where you just you're in scripture
and it's a bunch of different women. There's like fifty
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women and everyone goes for a certain reason. No one
really knows why you're going. You don't fill that out
when you um pay for your admission, but it's just
literally three days of God just pouring love into you
through other women. And I went because I wanted some
healing over the loss of my dad. It was very unexpected, wasted.
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It was unexpected and um incredibly traumatic, and I just
I felt like I needed. What does that do to
you emotionally when you go through something like that, like
how do you even what happens and still going through it?
I mean, ah, I think traumatic is a great way
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to describe it. I think, uh, it changes you. I
think there's a big part of my joy that is
in heaven, and I think, um, I feel caught between
my human flesh and being angry and mad and sad
that this ever happened to trying to trust that God
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is who he says he is and that my dad
is in heaven. Um. And that's why that journal means
so much to me, because Heaven is sending me signs
that he's okay. The cardinal being one. The day after
my dad passed, there was a cardinal that tried to
get into my parents house. It was pecking at the
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door and my mom and I we didn't know anything
about signs yet we had no idea why this bird
is trying to get into our house. And ever since
that day, I see cardinals at the most important times,
or when I'm thinking of my dad or praying or
just questioning something, there will be a cardinal that'll just
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show up and like, look at me in the eyes.
And it's not just another bird, It's it's a sign um,
And there's I have a million different ways of that
showing up. Um. But grief's messy. It is. It's messy.
It's messy, and I'm still processing it. And have you
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learned things about yourself that you didn't know through grief? Oh? Yeah,
I mean I think I told you earlier. I think
it's brought out the worst in me, and I think
it's brought out the best in me spiritually. But I
didn't know I could get so mad. Um. I didn't
know I could feel jealousy towards other people who have
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their dad. You know, that's just a terrible feeling, a
terrible emotion to have. But I've learned, like, grief is
really messy and it's okay. And I used to think
I was doing it wrong. And there's no handbook for it.
There's no way to do it right, and uh yeah,
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I'm still going through it. I don't think it's ever
something you finish. I think it's something you just live with.
You live with it, and I'm trying trying to do
the best job I kim living with it with honoring
the people around me and obviously my dad. So you
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said you went on this disciple walk. Yes, thank you
for bringing me all the wame my listeners. The one
thing I do said, they do tell me is that
I interrupted people. So I'm sorry side tracked you. That
was good that I want to hear back about the
disciple WK. Okay, So going on this discipleship walk, and
like I said, you don't fill out the reason you're going.
So I mentioned I was going to get some healing
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um over the loss of my dad. Um, just I
just needed to know he was okay. Even though I
do know that I you always need more. So it's
hardly you don't have tangible yes. Yes, So we're in
tables with different women and there's there's groups of like
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five or six women and um, you are prayed over
or from the time you sign up for this discipleship
walk until way after you're done, because if we believe
in God and Jesus, there's also the flip side to that,
and we're all in spiritual warfare because the enemy is real.
And so you're prayed over this, and there they pray
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for the table you're at. So I sit down. And
my leader's name is Christina, spelled exactly the way my
name is spelled. She was around my age, where like
two years apart, she lost her dad to a heart attack.
I lost my dad to a heart attack. Um, she
was she was grieving in a way where she was
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stuffing her feelings and I certainly was doing the same.
And our dad used to cook the same breakfast. We
had the same kind. It was like biscuits, engravy and
all this amazing Southern food. And I just that was
one of a million different weighs on this walk of
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just saying, God, I know you lined me up to
sit next to her because she knows how I feel.
And I laughed because God made it so obvious, like
he didn't just subtly give me a sign. He same name,
same dad. It's just and she has a connection to cardinals.
She has a connection to birds. I specifically I want
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to cardinals, but It just made me laugh, and it
made me feel so heard by God that he knows
how I feel, he knows what I'm struggling with. And ah,
he also has a sense of humor, like he just
made it so obvious. What has helped you the most
with your grief? Has it been reaching out to others,
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connecting with others? How what has been some of the
ways that you have found peace and grief that's even possible?
That's good, That's a really good question. Um. I think
the the best thing I learned for myself was it's
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not really for anybody else to totally understand. I think
at the beginning, you're so mad and angry, and you
have all these emotions going through and your numb, and
I think I just wanted everyone to know, like how
I felt, and I would tell everybody. I mean, anyone
I ran into, I mentioned what happened, and I learned
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this is such a internal journey with God and what
he's trying, how he's trying to transform your heart towards
Him and to look towards the Kingdom, not this earth.
And it sounds really selfish to say that I just
wanted everyone to know how I felt, But I think
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we all do. I think you just you kind of
want people to understand what you're going through. And when
I let that go, I could focus more on the
thirty five years I got with him and the incredible
dad that he was and is, because I truly believe
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his spirit is still alive, Like he's just not here,
you know, Like we're at this party and he's at
another party, and when I get the invitation, then I'll
go join him at the other party, you know. And
I saw that you said, ever since he's past, so
many opportunities have lined up for you, and you know
it's him opening doors, which is almost Maddy, because I'm like,
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I don't want any of the opportunities. I want him, um,
But you know he's over there orchestrating at all perfectly.
Of course he would like he's so proud of his
He called my mom's sister and I his babies, and
just the greatest man. I mean, truly, I had the
greatest father, and he just he didn't come up short
on anything. And I feel so blessed because I know
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there's people who never had dads or never knew their dad,
or didn't have good dad, and I have to remember that.
I was blessed to get that time with him. And
he loved old smokies, he loved stores. He did. That's
how you got into it. He grew up in his
shoe stores. Yes, my mom and him had shoe stores
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in an outdoor store, fly fishing store. They sold shoes
and clothes and all their retail locations. And I learned
everything that I used from them. And he would call
and me'd be so excited, and he kept telling me
he wanted me to do taller boots because he knows
that girls love tall boots and they like the way
they look on their legs. And I we just go
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back and forth on all these ideas, and he would
try to help me find vintage boots and constantly coming
up with ideas. He had the idea for me to
do belts when I couldn't see it. I had no
idea how I would even do a belt, and then
he lines up Miranda for me, you know, and um,
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it's amazing, it's amazing. So he's always just been so proud,
so proud. I mean, did he and Frankie get along?
Those two were I would I would love to say,
almost inseparable When they got together. He loved and admired
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and respected my dad the way that I always wanted
a man to look at my dad and my Dad's
same thing. He I remember him calling me like a
couple of weeks before he passed and just saying, I
don't care what that man does for a living, and
he said he is a good man, and just how
good does that feel? Just in the timing of it
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was like, I just remember him making sure that I
knew that he felt that way, And of course he
didn't know he was going to pass, but he just
was so proud of him. And we'll talk about Frankie.
He was his son in law years before we got married.
So I remember, you know, we had a thing called
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a celebration of life instead of a funeral. Yes, we
wanted to just celebrate his life as much as we could,
as as opposed to make it, you know, I mean,
obviously it was still incredibly emotional, but we He would
have never wanted something that was, um, I don't know,
just super funeral. Like he needed more of a celebration
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of who he was UM and he deserved that. UM.
The people will come up to Sean and I'd be
like wait, my sister is Shana. They'd say, wait, I
didn't know Frankie and Chrissy weren't married yet because he
would talk about Frankie as if he was already his son,
and um, their relationship was. It was incredible. Yeah, yeah,
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I know. So what have you gathered about this human experience?
Now that you have You've really lived quite a bit
of life, starting out with your parents in a shoe store,
traveling all around, getting a dream to be an actress,
moving to l A. We didn't mention this, but your
first videos was like sheltered when at his mullet. Then
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you met Frankie, like divine pieces had to move for
you to meet Frankie at that music video praying for
another dream and coming to you old smokey like then
having this hard hit losing your dad, Like what have
you gathered through all of the magic that you've experienced
in life and the pain? Like? What what are we
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doing here on this earth? That's not allered question? Just
answer that one for me when you let me know
how that goes and what are we doing here? Um?
I I truly think our number one job is probably
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to point everything towards heaven and towards God and towards
Jesus for what he's done for us. And it's not
about the accolades, and it's not about the where we
are on the rank, or who's number one or who's
it's not about any of that. It's so easy to
get caught up in that, isn't it? It can be,
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And I think something has traumatic, is what has happened
is none of that goes with you? Like it felt
like my father got plucked from this earth and taken
from us and none of that got to go with him.
But but the the love and the memories and the
time that he gave all of us that stayed. So
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why are we doing all these things? Well? I think
it's fun, and I do think we're meant to work,
and I think we're meant to strive and thrive. And
I think we all have gifts and talents. But I
think it's too to share with each other. And then too,
I'm supposed to use my gifts and talents to bring
out your gifts and talents. I'm not just supposed to
use them to be selfish, like we're supposed to use
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them to help each other. I mean, we've lost that
somewhere in the way. Sometimes that gets lost, of course
in the human nature. Of course we're seeing it in
the age of Instagram right now, which is really scary.
If you need to have a new outfit every day,
or a new makeup routine or a new skincare routine,
and it's like, wait, that stuff is fun, but that's
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not what life's about. It's about how are you treating people?
How are you pointing people towards their own goodness? Like
how are you lifting them up? And that is more
apparent to me than ever. We have to do that
because it can best any days, like anything. Yeah, I mean,
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it's so easy to think we're just promised this long life.
My dad had a big heart scare over this Christmas too,
and like we thought for a minute we were going
to lose them, and like I didn't. We didn't, and
I'm so thankful. But for a while I had grasped
that feeling of just realizing this life is so fragile,
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and it's everyone who like who you think is the
strongest person on earth, nobody is, No one is guaranteed anything,
none of us are immune to it. We all had lost,
we will all have lost, and I do think that's
where the connection happens, is when we talk about those
things we talked about this earlier. It's it's almost the
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messier parts of our life are easier to connect with
other people than the pretty shiny things. And I leveld smokies,
but that's not going with me. I mean, I hope
I get to make Jesus boots in heaven because I
feel like he'd be a great designer. But I think
at the end he's going to say, like, how did
you treat the people around you? What did you do
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for them? Like it's not it's really not about us,
and I'm not perfect at it. Believe me. I can
get in my own head and in my own way,
and I can stay in the workshop fifteen hours a day,
and I can just try to get ahead in my
own little business. But I try to remember it's just
not it's not about that. You know, If Old Smokey's
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never grows, I'm okay with that, Like, because I'm so
blessed to just be breathing and to be moving into
be able to feed myself and all these little things
that we all take so for granted. Because you just
said it, I might not get that tomorrow I might
not be here tomorrow. I don't know. I sure hope
I am, because eternity is a long time and whenever
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I get invited to that next party, I'll go. But
I'm going to make the most of this life. So
how do you deal with anxiety and fear and worry
and things like that. I probably worry more. Um, I
definitely can fall into the trap of worrying and then
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I have to surrender it up. So how do you
make yourself surrender? Well, I started to notice the signs
like I'll get fussy or like short, and then you
know you're just not trusting because you're trying to control. Yeah.
I mean we all love to try to control. So
it's my favorite thing and it never works out for us. Never. Yeah,
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just gives me handic attacks. Yes, those are awful. By
the way, I had not had him. I'd had anxiety,
but until I got pregnant, I had never had panic attacks.
It is debilitating, and I know that that means I'm
so far from God because the fact that I'm letting
my worry and my panic consume me to the bottom
of my core means that, like I have pushed God
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out in that moment. Well, I mean, it's a is
a real thing of like you can spind yourself out
of control. I remember one time driving to a show
to see Frankie. I was driving I think to Fresno
and I had one while driving, which was really scary.
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I could not tell you. I wish I could tell you,
but probably was l A was expensive, Let's be honest.
It was probably like how am I gonna pay? Yes, um,
I don't know what it was, but I had one
while driving and it scared me so bad. I called
my parents and they calmed me down. I mean, I'm
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a I'm a grown woman. And I called my parents
and they called me down, and I had to realize, you,
you can't do this again, Like you've got to find
ways to breathe, because you could hurt yourself for another driver.
And I once again I prayed hard on on this
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kind of anxiety, and I feel like God recently took
it from me. I do. I would highly recommend it
because I couldn't really figure out what to do on
my own, and I didn't really know anybody else talking
about it. I didn't know what a panic attack was.
I had no idea. What was going on? I didn't
like shut your body down when you and I'm driving
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and there's no shoulder on this highway. So, um, chest
was beating hard, like out of my chest. You're starting
to get like nauseous and sweating, and I think I
started singing really loud to like calm myself down, and
it worked because it was so bad. I think it
made me laugh. Um, But yeah, I really think it's
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all about the surrender. Do you and Frankie? What is
y'all spiritual life together? Like? It's actually one of my
favorite obviously. I mean, I've I love talking about God
and spirituality. But we when he's home, we get into
this routine of we wake up, we snuggle, of course,
he ugle our dog, and then we make coffee. We
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are such coffee people, like how do you drink your coffee?
Just black? But we get this coffee called pure? It
is so good? Are you drinking coffee right now? I
drink a little bit? Okay, Okay, when you're done, you've
got this baby, girl, I'm getting to some pure because
it's like jet fuel. Okay. Um. And then we will
do spiritual time for about an hour, hour and a half.
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What do you do during that time? He'll go sit
in his favorite chair. I'll go on the front of
the house, sit up in my chair. I'll read, I'll pray,
I'll meditate, I'll worship, listen to music. Um, I'll have
conversations with God. I'm working on listening, which is I
should do it so so much more because I hear
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things like God, we'll speak to me and that's in
the journal, and then when we're done, we'll come together
and we'll talk about like, Okay, would you read about
her baby? God said this to me? So does he
kind of do the same thing? What do we spiritual timeline? Same?
He loves to read, he'll pray, he'll write notes or
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just we love it. We're we are truly obsessed with it.
And when we get out of that routine, we realize
we need it. And so it's hard to do when
we're out on the road or traveling to see family.
But it's seriously our favorite way to start the day.
Oh what a great way just to be so connected, calm, centered,
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focused on what really matters. Yeah, and then you get
to have these great deep conversations about what you just
learned about what you read or what you found while
reading the Bible, or Babe, I went back and looked
in my prayer journal and I prayed this eight months
ago and look at just got answered. Or yeah, it's
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he definitely has a journal. I think he wanted to.
He just told me he wanted to start keeping a
prayer journal. Yeah, I would encourage to anyone. It's it's
just amazing how many actually get answered. But if you
don't write it down maybe or take notice of it,
you might not even realize that your prayers are getting answer. Yeah,
you're gonna forget. I mean, I'm telling you I have
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so many and I blanked, probably just being a little
bit nervous right now, but I have hundreds hundreds of
prayers answered. Yeah. So what brings you the most joy?
I'm full of joy right now. Um, you're a joyful person.
Every time you just radiate joy. I'm just I feel
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lucky to be alive, like truly. Um, what brings me joy? Time? Truly? Time?
But it sounds so cliche, but time with people that
I love. I just it's the most precious gift. I
don't ever want to take that for granted. And I'm
not always in my best mood or on my my
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a game. But time is it brings me joy? Um,
obviously my family and Frankie and our little dog and
Old Smokey's brings me joy. It truly does. Watching Frankie
on stage brings me joy. What do you love most
about watching him on stage? Everything? I geek out like,
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I suit like hardcore, looked like a super super fan. Um,
He's just he was born to be an entertainer. You
I watch him and I'm mesmerized. He just it's I
don't know how to describe other than he's the most
amazing singer to me, songwriter, guitar player, an entertainer because
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from the time you show up, from the time you
have to leave, you want more. And I'm his wife,
like I cannot get enough of his show. I really can't.
What's your favorite song? And he sings, Oh, well, that's
hard because I honestly love all of his albums. Um okay.
He has a lot of new music coming out. He
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wrote all of his new music, and he's got this
song called well there's a ton but there's a really
neat one called two Planes that he wrote when I
was living in l A. And when you hear this song.
It is so cinematic and it's it's our story, and
I think when people listen to it, they might think
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it's about a breakup, but it's not. It's about two
planes having to fly in different directions and how it
would break our hearts every time we had to do that.
And it's so sweet and it's so romantic, and it
just it's dramatic and it I just can't get story.
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It's a great love story, and it was it was
meant for the last album, but it got a second
life now and I am I've been rooting for this
song for so long. Yes, so clearly I'm a big fan. Okay,
what is the secret to marriage, especially being married to
an entertainer? Secret to make someone who has lots of
adoring female fans? Oh? Could I ever bother you? I
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feel like he set it up to where he's so
trustworthy that I never had to I truly never thought
about it. He made me feel comfortable with that and
he always has so um where I love that he
makes other ladies or kids or men feel special like
it doesn't make me jealous. Um, But what's the secret's marriage? Um?
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That's such a great question. I just feel like it's
being authentically yourself with each other and allowing the other
person to authentically be themselves. I want Frankie too, always
feel like he can just be himself around me, and
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when we don't agree on something, or if we get
fussy or we're worried about something that we don't keep
a record of it, like we talk about it, we
communicate about it, and we just let it go. And
I've always loved that about him. He's such a great
communicator and he truly always has been, and so I think,
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obviously that's a great a great one, such a good
point though to not keep score, because what good is
that going to do? Well? Most of the time, I
feel like when anybody could be with a family member
or a friend, when any you kind of get in
those those TIFFs or those ruts in life, it's because
you're truly worried about something or you've got something on
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your heart. It's not really about what you're talking about,
and it's just allowing that person to be in the
space that they need to be, supporting them and not
making them feel bad about it. And he's so good
about that. I mean, there was no handbook for Frankie
and grief, Like, how did he deal with that? Dad's yeah,
he for handling his wife who was going there, and
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he was so kind and so supportive, and he just
let me feel when I needed to feel. And I'm
forever grateful for that because that wasn't easy on him.
He not only had his own grief, but he had
the burden of my grief as well. So I think,
honest is a calm place for you to fall. Oh yeah,
I mean, and always always pointing me to heaven, always
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reminding me that this earth isn't it. Where did he
get that bath from? He's he's been a really spiritual
man since his parents instilled it in him, since he
was a kid. And I think he was always really
curious and um he continued to study throughout college and
he's I was always very impressed with him. Like I
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said early on, he's just always stayed close to God,
he really has, and so um he's always pushing himself
to learn more and now we get to do it together.
And yeah, very grateful. I Actually, you know what, that's
the key to marriage is we just try to put
God in the center of it, like put him in
the center that was in our wedding vowels. We put
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him in the middle. And if I'm honoring God, I
will always be honoring my husband. So that is a
great point. Just keep him in the middle. He's in
the middle of us right now. I I love you too.
Tell me about your wedding. Okay, I want to talk
to you forever, but we're already getting close in our
so like, hey, about your wedding because you'll have like
a really cool theme. M This was a really cool place.
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So it's called Star Hill Ranch. It was um in
be Cave, Texas. So that's just a little outside of Austin,
where I grew up. And it was a little wild
West town. So there was I can't remember how how
many buildings there were, but there was a really neat
um old school that I think was our reception hall.
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I should know this, but I swear sometimes I just
lose memory. It's like where did they go? Well, there's
just too much coming in, thank you, because sometimes like seriously,
what's going on? Um, we got married in this little
tiny white church. Okay, get this. We talked about prophecy
right before we chose the location of our wedding. I
put together like a four picture like collage for Frankie.
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Of we knew we wanted a little white church, so
I went on Google and I just chose a cute
little white chapel of the white Chapel. It was the
white chapel we got married in. And that was just
freaking random. And we didn't know that till maybe after
we got married. Found a picture of a white chapel
you liked. I thought it was super cute. It was tiny,
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and then you stumbled upon this cute little town in
b Cave where it was, Yeah, it was in b Cave, Texas,
and uh, yeah it was What did you do when
you found that out? Did you freak out? I just
know that it was divine, you knew. I just knew
it was divine because we wanted to get married on
a Sunday um which I don't think a lot of
people get married on Sunday because it's the most spiritual
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day of the week. I mean, it could be any day,
but to us, we just, like I said, we wanted
to keep God at this center, so we made it Sunday.
And this little wild West town, it was so cute,
had so much character, like grooms quarters, was like this
old general bar where it was a long bar and
cool neon lights, and so our guests could walk around
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this little town and go from building to building. And
it was in March, and in Texas it's usually like
eighty degrees. It was fifty seven degrees on our wedding day,
which was amazing because everyone's all dressed up, you're dancing,
you're hot, so no one's sweating, no one's sweating, no
one's freezing. Yeah. No, there might have been a few
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ladies who needed some like shawls or cardigans or something
not like dying. That sounded so old. People still say
shawls soon. Yeah, was, and so of course like I have,
you know, a big skirt on, and so I wasn't
hot dancing and it was incredible. My mom walked me
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down the aisle diad. Y'all got married after your dad passed.
My dad had passed about two months before we got married.
So the the incredible thing was he knew every single
detail of our wedding. He went to the location, he
was with me when I bought my dress. He um,
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he saw everything. So yeah, and that was honestly. He
saw the location December and we lost him on January four.
So God at least gave me um the piece of
knowing my dad knew where how the wedding would be.
Did he send you any signs when you're on your wedding? Oh?
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I wish I could say yes. It was probably just everywhere.
We tried to incorporate him in a bunch of different
ways in the wedding, like even just the smallest little
detail of his picture was in my bouquet, and um,
we uh he loved that song by Usher. I think
it's called Yeah. I want to see it's called Yeah.
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He just he loved it. And so instead of doing
the father daughter dance, we told everyone to come out
to the dance floor and we all danced to that,
and um, so yeah he was. He was everywhere throughout.
But Yssie, you're so amazing. I appreciate you sharing all
this and also saying that there is no handbook for
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Greek because there isn't there's not and for anyone who's
going through it. And I was like, I just feel
like I'm doing this wrong or it looks like this
for somebody else. Why why does it look like this
for me? You're not doing it wrong, like you can't
do it wrong. And I just don't think it's something
you finish. I think it's something you just learned to
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live with. And um there are days that I'm better
at it than others, But um, I just I try
to look for the connection between heaven and Earth. That's
why I talk about it so much. I have to,
or like, what's the point, yeah, shedding such light to
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others by sharing that, I'm trying hopefully, I don't want
to shed darkness that you could never You're so bright,
you're so sweet. I'm sure I've definitely shed some darkness. No. No,
you just have human emotions that you're so good at
working through and like getting to the core of them.
Instead of just breezing through them, you're feeling of and
living them. And I had to learn that. To learn that, Yeah,
(01:00:40):
it was it was easier to not want to think
about it and to try stuffy. Yeah, and that's obviously
we can't do. How did you learn to not stuff? Um? Well,
it started to come out in other way as you
started to have more anxiety. I started to I had
heart palpitations. I Uh, my sister and I both just
(01:01:02):
started having some health problems. I mean truly because it
was going somewhere in your body. Yeah, and I believe
in that. And my precious mom she couldn't escape it.
You know, she was alone in her house and she
was able to release her emotions more often, and we
noticed she wasn't getting sick. And it hit my sister
(01:01:26):
and I like, we've got we've we have to we
have to just even if we're in public and you
have to cry, you have you have to let it out.
I mean so I feel like I'm still I'm still
learning that because I can tend to be one that
just wants to be positive and smile all the time.
But um, it's real. It's and there's other people out
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there like me too. It's real, and it's okay to
like cry every day. I mean, yes, it's okay. I
love to cry. It feels good. It's so good it does.
And if I have to cry and I I have
to cry, if it comes on, I have to let
it out, well that's good. I wish I want to
be more like that well because I feel that same way,
Like if I have all that emotion that I can
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feel and it's wanting to pour out of my body, yeah,
like if I stuff it in. It just it changes me.
It changes Yeah, it's going to change your day and
the way you relate to people. And um, it's a
it's a process. I'm learning how to thank you for sharing.
I like trap every single interview over to leave your Light. Okay,
(01:02:30):
So I love this part. So okay, then you know
what it is? Just just some inspiration two people listening
to m Just something that you want people to know
that you've learned that maybe you would wish other people
could know, Like just some sort of love this inspirations.
Such a great question and I love the way you
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word it too. Okay, So I did I pre thought
of this because I honestly I love your podcast, but
I was what does leave your Light mean to me?
And I think leaving your light means using I may
have even said this earlier, but using your unique gifts
and talents, which is your light to light somebody else's.
(01:03:14):
So it's like if your candles not lit and mine is,
then I want to take my lit candle and I
want to light your flame. So leaving your light by
if you're an encourager, encouraged the gifts that you've got
and lift that person up so you might be like
(01:03:36):
a really great teacher and I'm really great encourager, and
I'm like, I just love how you teach people, and
that would be leaving your light on someone that it's
just finding those things because everybody has amazing qualities and
it's just speaking them over people and helping people realize
their own light. Yeah, just bring out their light. Prissie,
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you are a noble lives and you freaking together are amazing.
Thank you. What a great what a great couple. Y'all
are just like so rooted and such like godliness. But
then you're also so just open with the world too,
Like you're just so easy to be around. You really
have a personality. Come on, I've always been drawn to you.
(01:04:23):
I always have loved talking to and you ask amazing
questions too, So it's not like it comes it really
stems from you because you're the one asking these questions
that we should talk about. Well, I just appreciate you'd
be willing you're willingness to talk about them because I
feel like that's feeling for people, feeling for everyone involved.
(01:04:44):
You know, it's nice to be able to share these
things that are that are so painful because we all
have these painful things, and if we can't talk about
them and realize that we all are going through them, yeah,
we suffer silently. Yeah, And I think that's what makes
me the most sad, is I because of our situation
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with my dad, We've talked to so many people who
have had the same story that you just would never know.
I mean, you never know what people are going through.
And my new thing is if someone's like rude or
frustrated or mad or that you don't know, just ask
yourself they what are they going through? Like? You do
not know? And it's probably not something great because they
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obviously it's coming out in their personality. So let's just
cut each other's grace. It's grace grace because I've needed
a lot of grace in my grief, so I have
a lot of grace to give. You're amazing, Thank you
so much for joining me, Thank you for having you
to the rest. And everyone gonna check out Old Smokey's
Boots because they are fantastic. Is it just old? What
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is your like? You got? It's Old Smokey's Boots dot com.
Y'all are going to freak. I love you, love you too.
You're the best b
Carola, She's not afraid. Hey guys, I'm so pumped. On
this episode of Get Real podcast, I have Chrissie Ballard
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joining me. She is just a beautiful, bright light. She's
married to Frankie Ballard and they are just basically a
supermodel couple. They look like they're out of a movie,
they're so good looking. But on top of that, they're
such incredible people. We walked through Chrissie and Frankie's love story.
They met when she was cast to be on his
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music video. They fell in love and stilly. The first
date they had, he basically asked her to go on
the road with him and from there on it was
just sparks. They never broke up. They did long distance
for a while because she was acting in l a
and then she ended up moving to Nashville. She and
Frankie are both so spiritual, and she knew that she
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wanted to be with him in Nashville and her dream
of acting was fading, but she needed a new dream
because she's so creative. She always knew she needed to
create and she prayed to God and he brought her
a completely new dream. And it's old Smoky Boots, which
you guys have to check it out. She has designed
these most incredible creative, funky boots from Miranda Lambert for
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Lucy Hale. She just got to write up in People Magazine.
She's amazing and it's just so cool to see how
her prayers of an answer. We talk a lot about that,
she's a prayer journal, that she has recorded all these
prayers and signs from God that have been answered and
branking her. They have an hour of more of spiritual
morning time every day to start their day off with
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God the Sinner. They're just such an incredible couple. She
walks me through the grief of losing her father and
she's very raw about that, and I appreciate her sharing
that because I know a lot of people struggle with
grief and she was very honest about it and just
how there is no right or wrong way to grieve.
And she then tells me about her wild West theme marriage,
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how she and Frankie got married, uh, in a wild
West town. It's amazing. They're such great people and this
is just such a um, feel good, spiritual, uplifting podcast
that I can't wait for you all to hear it.
So here's Chrissy Ballard. Okay, I'm here with Chrissie Ballard,
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who came up walking up my driveway looking like a
supermodel with I mean just literally a knockout and I'm
hiding I have a hat on. I'm super cash girl.
Oh god, I just have to apologize because I mean,
I can't eat, I can't even I don't even try.
Girl today, you always look so cute. Seriously be this
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tiny little bone. Being deep into my pregnancy now like
seven and a half months, I really the thought of
I used to really consider myself like kind of cute
and sexy, but I just don't feel that way anymore.
You are, though. In't that crazy that you can't see
yourself the way that we can, because every time I've
seen you out, I'm just like obsessed with you. Yeah,
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you always look so cute. It's a it's it's a
new kind of admiration for my body because I'm so
thankful of what it's doing, growing this baby and you know,
bringing new life into the world. But like, I just
don't feel like the hot, hot machine that I used
to be back in the day. Oh You're wonderful, will
ever come back? You know? And that's so crazy? That
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we can't hear what you're thinking about, but to us, like,
you're so cute, and everyone just like all they see
is this tiny little bump and you just look so
cute and everything you wear. Yeah, you are so sweet. Okay,
so we start. I'm gonna start off by telling everyone
who your husband is, which is Frankie Ballard. God, he's
so cute too, I'm telling you he is. I love
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that he looks like a bad boy. He's got this chiseled,
handsome face and all these tattoos. But he is the
most unbelievable man. I know why he's so unbelieving. He
looks like James Dean. He does. I mean he truly
does his leather jackets on, his style throwback. He's like
vintage he is. And he grew up on so many
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of those classic singers like Elvis, and so he can
do moves like Elvis. And he got the moves, oh
he does. He can do all the leg movements. Um,
he can dance. He can dance like most amazing dancers.
He can do the Chuck Berry duck walk. He can
do everything. I don't even know what that is. Yeah,
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I mean I tried to do it. In our kitchen
one day and made him laugh so hard. It's where
Chuck would like hold the guitar and then kick a
foot up while hopping on the other foot, and so
you're gonna know what I'm talking about when you see it.
But he he makes it look cool. And I just
looked so lanky and practically fell over and it was
a funny moment. Is that what made you fall in
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love with him? Was his moves? That and just he
was so charming when I met him. I met him
on a music video set. Okay, so talk to me
about that. Because you were living in l A. I
was living in l A. You moved out there to
be an actress. I was doing the acting thing, and
this was at a point where acting had kind of
slowed down, and a producer friend of mine had asked
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me to do his music video, and so this was
just a job for me. I wasn't really thinking that
I'm going to meet my future husband. Um And so
I showed up to said I was one of the
first girls, and he came right over after filming, and
I was nervous. I was nervous because he was so
handsome and he was so cute. The way he came
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up and like introduced himself and and you know, made
a cheeky joke to me about you know, I just
don't know if you're going to do for the video.
And I was like in full hair and makeup, and
I thought, oh, no, this isn't just a video. Like
I think. I think there's like a spark with this guy.
Love you. I think I want to marry you that
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Um well, I didn't have that exact thought at that time,
but I knew this was no longer a job. I mean,
it was like a spiritual I knew something was happening.
What happened? What did he do? It was just his presence.
Like most artists when they're on set, people are carrying
their things, and he would offer to move my bags,
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or he would ask if I needed anything, or we
always found each other on set. And there was three
other girls on this music video who were also probably
thinking he was super handsome and wanting to know if
he was single, But we just found each other throughout
the day, and um, there was just something so different
about him than any other man I had ever met.
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What music video was it for? It was called a
Bunch of Girls. There was a bunch of girls, but
then there was one. Oh okay, so did he feel
it to you right away? He did, he said, um,
I believe it was his agent or manager at the
time walked over and said something like, well, you know,
are you interested in any of the because you know,
there's four of us girls there and the other girls,
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to be really fair, were beautiful, like beautiful girls, super sweet. Um.
And he pointed to me and I had this I
had this little sure that I made a dress. Um.
So it was really small, and he pointed to me
and yeah, I think we both just felt a connection,
like we just wanted to get to know each other more. Okay,
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So then how did you pursue it? Okay? So I
was the only one that didn't ask for a picture
with him all day cool plain cool and the other girls,
but they were definitely around him more and he would
come find me and talk to me. So at the
end of the day he asked to have a picture
with you with me, and then he asked with you
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he did I had to work its sister. I was
just I was like, yes, my plan is working. Um.
So we're in the back of this van headed back
to the first location. We took a picture and then
he said, well, let me send it to you. So
we got my number okay, and then we texted that
in other ways too. Yeah, he sure does. Um texted
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that whole night and I didn't realize he lived in Nashville. Okay.
So I'm in l A. And he has to fly home,
and I was so sad. I was already sad that
he had to go home. So that's the introduction story. Then,
how did it was an instant? I started dating immediately?
How's the first date? What happened the first day? It
was amazing? Okay. So he's in Nashville, I'm in l A.
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He calls, we're texting, so this is all over the phone.
How old are y'all? How many years ago is this? Okay?
So this was about eight years ago, eight years ago
in May. Okay. So y'all working on a decade here? Yeah,
I like that. Let's just round up that, um. Okay.
So two weeks go by, I'm just talking on the
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phone and he said, I would love for you to
just come out on the road. I've got this run.
I'm going on tour with Bob Seeker or he had
been on tour with Bob Seeker. I think this was
one of the last shows. I've got some club dates,
I've got a stadium show. What do you think that's
a way to impress somebody. Well, this was a whole
new world for me. I was single, and I was
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ready for an adventure, and I pretty much said yes immediately,
just at the one time. Yeah, just the one time.
But we had talked on the phone so much. And
I knew that he was classy. I knew that he
was a gentleman. Like did you think, like we're you
gonna sleep, I gonna share a book? Yeah, I of
course I thought of all this stuff. And I are
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living together instantly on the bus. But here's how God
prepared me. My brother in law was on the PGA
tour at the time, so he's a professional golfer. He was.
He still plays occasionally, but he was and I knew
bus life. They had. My sister and brother in law
had a four wheeler. They is that what it's called.
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I feel like that's not right, a fifth wheel? Like
what you mean he didn't travel on a four wheeler.
It was a fifth wheel, so it's not quite a bus.
Oh yeah, I don't think they're traveling at a four wheeler. Sorry, Shonah,
that was not the right thing. But it's like it
is a bus in the sense that it's got the
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pop out. It's just a little bit smaller than a
tour bus. Um, so I knew how to travel, like
I knew how to to hang. So did you get
in your own book? Were you sharing? Was there a
ve know you're gonna go here? Okay? So actually this
was a four and a half day run. Oh okay,
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Well you're going to know for sure after this four
and half day run if you all have a connection
and can work it out, Oh for sure. And it was.
It was seamless. It was so much fun with him. Nervous, Well, yes,
because I liked him so much, but no, because I
was fully myself and this was the first time with
anyone where I just felt like I could be completely crissy.
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And I remember him saying that on the same trip
that he just felt like he could just be himself.
And I remember looking at his cell phone. Um, he
was I think we were exchanging like Twitter accounts, Like
that's how new this was. He was like, I want
to follow you, and I was like, I want to
follow you, and I remember seeing he had the Bible
app on his phone, and I remember thinking, I know,
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I'm gonna fall in love with this guy because I
had never met anyone that had that app on their iPhone.
And he has the balance. He's got the bad boy
midge like singer, like got that whole swag thing going.
But then he's a good, just wholesome, great guy with
moral values. Oh yes, that's the unicorn. He's definitely unicorn.
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I tell him all the time, like I'll touch his
back and I was like, I know there's some angel
wings back here somewhere, like he's just this special human.
And I knew that from from that trip. So to
answer your question, I had my own whole bunk set up.
Never made it into bog. We were very respectful and
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we snuggled for sure. And actually on the last night,
his parents were on the bus, sweet and family too.
I met his parents the last day of that trip,
and it was a good meeting. It was unbelievable, I mean,
and I had prophecy that we would be doing this
over and over again in our life, that I would
be in the stands in a seat watching him on
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stage with his parents over and over and over again.
It was like a feeling. Do you get prophecy a lot?
I do tend to get you get visions or feelings, feelings? Yeah,
Sometimes it's vision, sometimes it's feelings. Sometimes it's a a word.
Sometimes it'll just fall out of my mouth. And it's
just like the Spirit movie through you. Totally, totally. And
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the more I talk about it and the more that
I tell other people, I feel like the stronger it gets.
So was it a feeling? You just had this feeling
I will be doing this all the time. It was
definitely a feeling. So he was at a stadium show
in Detroit for Bob Seeger Guys from Michigan, and it
was it was a feeling but also a vision of
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I'm going to see his dad walking around the stadium
listening to all the different you know, areas where he
can hear Frankie and I'll be sitting next to his
mom and we'll be videoing, and it was it was
a prophecy of like what my future was going to
look like. So it was both, Wow, yeah, that's amazing
and that has certainly come true. It sure has. So
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after that weekend where you're all just hot to trot,
like this is happening. DTR made it official. Oh yeah,
he called and he was he was so sweet. I
just love I love this man so much. He asked
me to be his girlfriend, be exclusive right after that trip,
and I had never had that before. I never had
a man pursue me, called you and asked you to
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be his girlfriend. He did. It was it was the
sweet day. I think he might have been headed into
a sound check. It was early in the morning. And
how did he say it? I need to know. It
was pardon me, baby if I get this wrong, But
it was super romantic and he was like, I just
had the best week with you. We get along so well.
He's like, I don't want to see anybody else. I
don't want you to see anybody else. He's like, this
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might be too early, but what do you think we'll like?
Would you be my girlfriend? And of course, I mean
the answer was yes. From honestly, the moment that I
went out on tour that week, just no reservations, not never, never,
maybe even from the moment I met him, I just
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knew something was brewing. And you have never felt that
way about anyone before, never, never, no, So would you
say you do believe in soulmates. Oh? Absolutely. What is
the difference between dating people that you try to make
it work with and then meeting your soulmates? Got everything
we say all the time to have become one? We
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I we feel that we feel like we're one. When
he wins, I feel like I'm winning. When he's down,
I feel like I'm down in vice versa. And it's
almost unexplainable, but I am the happiest when I'm like
pressed up against him. It's like spirit to spirit. I
can't get enough of it. Like I'm truly obsessed with
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my husband. Oh my god, you together enough for eight
years and it has not dwindled. No, if anything increases,
he probably should be scared at how much I love it.
I have a feeling it's mutual. I feel very blessed.
I do feel like it's mutual. But you have feeling
like you know, Michael's your best friend? Yes, yes, it
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is definitely when you have something excitated a lot of people.
Michael and I broke up for a little while. We
dated people before, and it's just when you're with someone
that you're supposed to be with, it is a very
it's a very amazing feeling. Yeah, it's unbelievable. I wish
that everyone got the opportunity to feel that. I it
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breaks my heart for the people who haven't or who
have lost it, um because I don't think there's anything better,
truly just to have that your person. But the thing
I love about you is you got you seem to
just fully embrace each other, like because a lot of
people who get into this life is very hard for
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the spouse to handle it. And it doesn't seem to
me like you've ever had that issue. I think that
you have some adjustment that you had to get used to,
or was it like right away you're ready for this
crazy life. I do feel like I was born for it.
One my family prepared me for it. How so. Uh,
we traveled a lot when I was a kid, but
a lot of adventures. Got to see a lot of
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the United States, um my sister and brother in law,
and and seeing their life and traveling with them a
little bit, and going out and watching the tour life
and seeing how my sister was when he had to work.
I mean, I was picking up all these clues of
you know how it is at a sound check or
at a show or a meet and greet, and I
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feel like it was just in my blood to just
kind of know what to do. And yeah, I don't
know how to explain it other than I just feel
like I was I was ready for it, um, so
I don't feel like there was an adjustment. But I
was also in the acting world, so I understood the
entertainment aspect of it. And and I think Frankie really
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appreciated that I got it too, because I think that
does make it easier on her husband when we understand wait, no, baby,
you go to that dinner because that's work. Like, I'm
totally fine, I'll stay home. I'll be here waiting for you.
I want to hear all about it, but I don't
necessarily have to be there if this is work. And
I feel like Frankie makes it, makes it a point
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to include you in his too. Oh yeah, it's not
like you're ever feeling like you're being left behind, like
if you if you can't go for some sort of reason. Yeah,
you totally get it. Oh, absolutely absolutely, And we have
fun at those events together. I mean, yes, he'll take
me anywhere. And sometimes I'm like, wait, this is work,
you're gonna get distracted, and you're gonna want to talk
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about me, and we need to talk about you. So
do you love to talk about you? He's so proud.
I saw him posting all over his Instagram about your
People article with Old Smokey's boots, like he cannot get enough.
He's which, he's my biggest fan. I got to talk
about your boots, but he is your biggest fan. I yeah,
Like that's what I'm talking about. How did I get
this superhuman husband? Like I just I feel so blessed.
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I don't want to say unworthy of it, because I
feel like God chose him for me. But I just
feel incredibly blessed that he likes what I'm doing and
that he's proud and he wants to talk about it.
That's talk to me about how he is with your business.
He's instrumental. I mean truly, he has lifted me up
from the beginning. I came to him with this crazy
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idea out of nowhere. Well, and you were transitioning because
you were an actress in l A. You met Frankie
and then you fell in love with him, and you
said you were finding a new dream all of a sudden,
Like I felt like acting was sort of like leaving
and a new dream was taking his place, which is,
you're this incredible boot designer and like leather designer, you
would do all sorts of things belts like purses and
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things like all sorts of things. But how did how
did that one flow in? And yeah, and then how
is Frankie instrumental? I said, to give people a little backstory?
Thank you? That was good. Um, yes, acting door, I
felt like was closing because I wanted to be with
him more than I ever wanted to continue to pursue acting,
because what did that even mean? Like if I can't
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be with him? So old smokies came from a prayer,
many prayers really actually, um, explain Okay, So this was
I loved acting. That was why moved out there. That
I thought that was going to be what I was
going for. But then I met him and I thought,
wait a second, that is the life that I want.
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I want to be with him. I said, God, you
know my heart, you know how much I love acting.
I need a new dream and I need to have
something of my own so that I can move to
Nashville and I can help support his dream, but have
something going on for myself. Um, it's very profound of
you to like know that you needed that. Well, I
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have to create. If I don't get to create, I
feel this blockage and I I just need to be
able to express myself. So I woke up one morning
in Los Angeles. I just took a bunch of stuff
out of my closet, a pair of boots I had
never even worn, and just whipped up the first pair
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of old Smokey's started wearing it to some of his concerts,
and people were like, where did you get your boots?
I could hear this because you put like all sorts
of stuff on boots, Like, tell, tell everyone listening, your
boots are like okay. So I take vintage boots, sometimes
new boots, sometimes customers boots, and I reworked them into
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funky one of the kind's. I like to call them
red carpet pieces for every day. So, um, you know,
I might chopped the top and put a bunch of
chain or studs, metal belts. They get funky real fast. Um.
And I was wearing them around and I could hear people.
So I remember calling Frankie from l A and saying, Babe,
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I want to do this, like I want to take
boots and rework them and make them modern and funky,
and I want to sell them. And he could have
said anything, and he was like, I think that's an
amazing idea, and he just went with it, and sure enough,
a few months later found myself in Nashville. He asked
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me to move in with him, and because he was
so classy, he was never going to ask me to leave,
acting that had to come for me. That's really awesome. Well,
that's because he's such a gentleman, like he didn't want
you to give up on your dream. Yeah, he wasn't
gonna gonna give up on his dream. Yeah, he didn't
want to take that away from me. So my heart
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completely I changed. I was so excited about Old Smokey's.
Had no idea really what I was doing, but I
knew I now had my new dream, which allowed me
to move. And now I can't even believe I've got
this little company. That's I feel so blessed. Mariana Lamb
in my boot. I know she's in like lots of
your boots. I ran into her um recently. Well, I
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mean it's just also interconnected. I love the puzzle pieces
of life but a sweet girlfriend of mine, Casimira, sent
her stylist a message and just said, Hey, my girlfriend
does Old Smokey's boots. If you guys ever you know,
want to collaborate, we would love to just show you
what we've got. Well, I think I probably had like
two boots in the workshop at that time. But I
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met with her stylist, Tiffany Gifford, and got Tiffany's story
and Miranda's camp and Tiffany are so classy. They don't
take anything as a gift. They buy their product. Miranda
does not take gifts product, No, she buys it. So
Tiffany and I came up with this idea and we
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made one pair of boots. Miranda fell in love, and
then we ended up making I think four or five
more pair Gosh belts, yeah, and five or six belts,
and she was like top of your top dream client
number one. Number one was like, what is even happening
right now? I mean, I still can't believe it. And
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you have Lucy Hale. Lucy Hale was the first one.
She crashed my website. Yeah, okay, talked, how did that happen? Well,
this was when Instagram was still I feel like pretty new.
No one was really posting product on Instagram like they
are now, and she posted a thank you with a
picture of boots on her bed and tagged me, And
I woke up to a slew of phone calls. My
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website had crashed, like everything was sold out. I'm amazing
as that. I'm surprised that even had anything up on
the website. I mean, I'm like a one woman show,
and everything I had was gone because of Lucy. Oh
my gosh. Yeah, so your dream was real. All of
a sudden, you have this real life dream happening so fast.
Isn't that crazy how fast it happened? It honestly is.
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And it was all based around prayer and God and
continuing to just ask him to be like the president
of Old Smokey's and saying, this is you gave me
this dream. I didn't even know I had the skills
to do this, Like I had never reworked a pair
of boots in my life, and now, all of a sudden,
my hands know exactly what to do and I know
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what tools to go by. That's sort of unexplainable, because
how do you You You didn't even know what tools existed.
I didn't even know that a whole punch could change
my life doing old Smokey's. I mean, I was buying
stuff at the very beginning at Joe and Fabrics and
Hobby Lobby and figuring it out like super gluing stuff.
So now I'm at the leather store buying real leather
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working tools, working with real you know, uh chisels, and
it's just all of a sudden, all these skills just
came to me. Are you serious? Yes? I mean yeah, this,
this whole dream is seriously built on faith. So talk
to me about your faith, because we were talking earlier.
You have a prayer journal. I do, and I think
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this is amazing, So tell me about this. Okay. So
the prayer fits into this, oh absolutely. I mean that's
why I love telling the story of Oltz Movies because
it's seriously just came about from a prayer. Um. So,
my prayer journals started pretty quickly after my father passed.
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So he passed a couple like two and a half
years ago, and lots of questions for God, just things
I never really thought about, and a lot of new
prayers that needed to go up for my mom and
my grandparents and my sister and myself and Frankie's grieving
a lot of family members, and I just wanted to
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record prayers and when they were answered. And then when
you flip the prayer journal over, it's signs from heaven.
And um, I think I told you early. Or this
book is almost full, and I'll write scripture in there,
and I'll write stories, dreams, other prophecy that I've had
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encounters with people that are uh, that have been from
my journal, Like I might see a sign or I
might be thinking of something and someone would say the
exact things. Oh yeah, I mean this this book is
just one thing after another of just affirming God is
who he says he is. Wow. Okay, can you share
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some of your prayers that have been answered? Oh my gosh,
I should I knew I should have looked through this morning. Um.
One that's pretty wild was recently I just went to
have you heard of anything called a discipleship walk? Okay,
So it's three days where you just you're in scripture
and it's a bunch of different women. There's like fifty
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women and everyone goes for a certain reason. No one
really knows why you're going. You don't fill that out
when you um pay for your admission, but it's just
literally three days of God just pouring love into you
through other women. And I went because I wanted some
healing over the loss of my dad. It was very unexpected, wasted.
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It was unexpected and um incredibly traumatic, and I just
I felt like I needed. What does that do to
you emotionally when you go through something like that, like
how do you even what happens and still going through it?
I mean, ah, I think traumatic is a great way
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to describe it. I think, uh, it changes you. I
think there's a big part of my joy that is
in heaven, and I think, um, I feel caught between
my human flesh and being angry and mad and sad
that this ever happened to trying to trust that God
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is who he says he is and that my dad
is in heaven. Um. And that's why that journal means
so much to me, because Heaven is sending me signs
that he's okay. The cardinal being one. The day after
my dad passed, there was a cardinal that tried to
get into my parents house. It was pecking at the
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door and my mom and I we didn't know anything
about signs yet we had no idea why this bird
is trying to get into our house. And ever since
that day, I see cardinals at the most important times,
or when I'm thinking of my dad or praying or
just questioning something, there will be a cardinal that'll just
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show up and like, look at me in the eyes.
And it's not just another bird, It's it's a sign um,
And there's I have a million different ways of that
showing up. Um. But grief's messy. It is. It's messy.
It's messy, and I'm still processing it. And have you
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learned things about yourself that you didn't know through grief? Oh? Yeah,
I mean I think I told you earlier. I think
it's brought out the worst in me, and I think
it's brought out the best in me spiritually. But I
didn't know I could get so mad. Um. I didn't
know I could feel jealousy towards other people who have
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their dad. You know, that's just a terrible feeling, a
terrible emotion to have. But I've learned, like, grief is
really messy and it's okay. And I used to think
I was doing it wrong. And there's no handbook for it.
There's no way to do it right, and uh yeah,
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I'm still going through it. I don't think it's ever
something you finish. I think it's something you just live with.
You live with it, and I'm trying trying to do
the best job I kim living with it with honoring
the people around me and obviously my dad. So you
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said you went on this disciple walk. Yes, thank you
for bringing me all the wame my listeners. The one
thing I do said, they do tell me is that
I interrupted people. So I'm sorry side tracked you. That
was good that I want to hear back about the
disciple WK. Okay, So going on this discipleship walk, and
like I said, you don't fill out the reason you're going.
So I mentioned I was going to get some healing
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um over the loss of my dad. Um, just I
just needed to know he was okay. Even though I
do know that I you always need more. So it's
hardly you don't have tangible yes. Yes, So we're in
tables with different women and there's there's groups of like
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five or six women and um, you are prayed over
or from the time you sign up for this discipleship
walk until way after you're done, because if we believe
in God and Jesus, there's also the flip side to that,
and we're all in spiritual warfare because the enemy is real.
And so you're prayed over this, and there they pray
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for the table you're at. So I sit down. And
my leader's name is Christina, spelled exactly the way my
name is spelled. She was around my age, where like
two years apart, she lost her dad to a heart attack.
I lost my dad to a heart attack. Um, she
was she was grieving in a way where she was
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stuffing her feelings and I certainly was doing the same.
And our dad used to cook the same breakfast. We
had the same kind. It was like biscuits, engravy and
all this amazing Southern food. And I just that was
one of a million different weighs on this walk of
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just saying, God, I know you lined me up to
sit next to her because she knows how I feel.
And I laughed because God made it so obvious, like
he didn't just subtly give me a sign. He same name,
same dad. It's just and she has a connection to cardinals.
She has a connection to birds. I specifically I want
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to cardinals, but It just made me laugh, and it
made me feel so heard by God that he knows
how I feel, he knows what I'm struggling with. And ah,
he also has a sense of humor, like he just
made it so obvious. What has helped you the most
with your grief? Has it been reaching out to others,
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connecting with others? How what has been some of the
ways that you have found peace and grief that's even possible?
That's good, That's a really good question. Um. I think
the the best thing I learned for myself was it's
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not really for anybody else to totally understand. I think
at the beginning, you're so mad and angry, and you
have all these emotions going through and your numb, and
I think I just wanted everyone to know, like how
I felt, and I would tell everybody. I mean, anyone
I ran into, I mentioned what happened, and I learned
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this is such a internal journey with God and what
he's trying, how he's trying to transform your heart towards
Him and to look towards the Kingdom, not this earth.
And it sounds really selfish to say that I just
wanted everyone to know how I felt, But I think
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we all do. I think you just you kind of
want people to understand what you're going through. And when
I let that go, I could focus more on the
thirty five years I got with him and the incredible
dad that he was and is, because I truly believe
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his spirit is still alive, Like he's just not here,
you know, Like we're at this party and he's at
another party, and when I get the invitation, then I'll
go join him at the other party, you know. And
I saw that you said, ever since he's past, so
many opportunities have lined up for you, and you know
it's him opening doors, which is almost Maddy, because I'm like,
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I don't want any of the opportunities. I want him, um,
But you know he's over there orchestrating at all perfectly.
Of course he would like he's so proud of his
He called my mom's sister and I his babies, and
just the greatest man. I mean, truly, I had the
greatest father, and he just he didn't come up short
on anything. And I feel so blessed because I know
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there's people who never had dads or never knew their dad,
or didn't have good dad, and I have to remember that.
I was blessed to get that time with him. And
he loved old smokies, he loved stores. He did. That's
how you got into it. He grew up in his
shoe stores. Yes, my mom and him had shoe stores
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in an outdoor store, fly fishing store. They sold shoes
and clothes and all their retail locations. And I learned
everything that I used from them. And he would call
and me'd be so excited, and he kept telling me
he wanted me to do taller boots because he knows
that girls love tall boots and they like the way
they look on their legs. And I we just go
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back and forth on all these ideas, and he would
try to help me find vintage boots and constantly coming
up with ideas. He had the idea for me to
do belts when I couldn't see it. I had no
idea how I would even do a belt, and then
he lines up Miranda for me, you know, and um,
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it's amazing, it's amazing. So he's always just been so proud,
so proud. I mean, did he and Frankie get along?
Those two were I would I would love to say,
almost inseparable When they got together. He loved and admired
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and respected my dad the way that I always wanted
a man to look at my dad and my Dad's
same thing. He I remember him calling me like a
couple of weeks before he passed and just saying, I
don't care what that man does for a living, and
he said he is a good man, and just how
good does that feel? Just in the timing of it
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was like, I just remember him making sure that I
knew that he felt that way, And of course he
didn't know he was going to pass, but he just
was so proud of him. And we'll talk about Frankie.
He was his son in law years before we got married.
So I remember, you know, we had a thing called
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a celebration of life instead of a funeral. Yes, we
wanted to just celebrate his life as much as we could,
as as opposed to make it, you know, I mean,
obviously it was still incredibly emotional, but we He would
have never wanted something that was, um, I don't know,
just super funeral. Like he needed more of a celebration
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of who he was UM and he deserved that. UM.
The people will come up to Sean and I'd be
like wait, my sister is Shana. They'd say, wait, I
didn't know Frankie and Chrissy weren't married yet because he
would talk about Frankie as if he was already his son,
and um, their relationship was. It was incredible. Yeah, yeah,
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I know. So what have you gathered about this human experience?
Now that you have You've really lived quite a bit
of life, starting out with your parents in a shoe store,
traveling all around, getting a dream to be an actress,
moving to l A. We didn't mention this, but your
first videos was like sheltered when at his mullet. Then
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you met Frankie, like divine pieces had to move for
you to meet Frankie at that music video praying for
another dream and coming to you old smokey like then
having this hard hit losing your dad, Like what have
you gathered through all of the magic that you've experienced
in life and the pain? Like? What what are we
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doing here on this earth? That's not allered question? Just
answer that one for me when you let me know
how that goes and what are we doing here? Um?
I I truly think our number one job is probably
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to point everything towards heaven and towards God and towards
Jesus for what he's done for us. And it's not
about the accolades, and it's not about the where we
are on the rank, or who's number one or who's
it's not about any of that. It's so easy to
get caught up in that, isn't it? It can be,
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And I think something has traumatic, is what has happened
is none of that goes with you? Like it felt
like my father got plucked from this earth and taken
from us and none of that got to go with him.
But but the the love and the memories and the
time that he gave all of us that stayed. So
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why are we doing all these things? Well? I think
it's fun, and I do think we're meant to work,
and I think we're meant to strive and thrive. And
I think we all have gifts and talents. But I
think it's too to share with each other. And then too,
I'm supposed to use my gifts and talents to bring
out your gifts and talents. I'm not just supposed to
use them to be selfish, like we're supposed to use
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them to help each other. I mean, we've lost that
somewhere in the way. Sometimes that gets lost, of course
in the human nature. Of course we're seeing it in
the age of Instagram right now, which is really scary.
If you need to have a new outfit every day,
or a new makeup routine or a new skincare routine,
and it's like, wait, that stuff is fun, but that's
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not what life's about. It's about how are you treating people?
How are you pointing people towards their own goodness? Like
how are you lifting them up? And that is more
apparent to me than ever. We have to do that
because it can best any days, like anything. Yeah, I mean,
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it's so easy to think we're just promised this long life.
My dad had a big heart scare over this Christmas too,
and like we thought for a minute we were going
to lose them, and like I didn't. We didn't, and
I'm so thankful. But for a while I had grasped
that feeling of just realizing this life is so fragile,
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and it's everyone who like who you think is the
strongest person on earth, nobody is, No one is guaranteed anything,
none of us are immune to it. We all had lost,
we will all have lost, and I do think that's
where the connection happens, is when we talk about those
things we talked about this earlier. It's it's almost the
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messier parts of our life are easier to connect with
other people than the pretty shiny things. And I leveld smokies,
but that's not going with me. I mean, I hope
I get to make Jesus boots in heaven because I
feel like he'd be a great designer. But I think
at the end he's going to say, like, how did
you treat the people around you? What did you do
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for them? Like it's not it's really not about us,
and I'm not perfect at it. Believe me. I can
get in my own head and in my own way,
and I can stay in the workshop fifteen hours a day,
and I can just try to get ahead in my
own little business. But I try to remember it's just
not it's not about that. You know, If Old Smokey's
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never grows, I'm okay with that, Like, because I'm so
blessed to just be breathing and to be moving into
be able to feed myself and all these little things
that we all take so for granted. Because you just
said it, I might not get that tomorrow I might
not be here tomorrow. I don't know. I sure hope
I am, because eternity is a long time and whenever
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I get invited to that next party, I'll go. But
I'm going to make the most of this life. So
how do you deal with anxiety and fear and worry
and things like that. I probably worry more. Um, I
definitely can fall into the trap of worrying and then
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I have to surrender it up. So how do you
make yourself surrender? Well, I started to notice the signs
like I'll get fussy or like short, and then you
know you're just not trusting because you're trying to control. Yeah.
I mean we all love to try to control. So
it's my favorite thing and it never works out for us. Never. Yeah,
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just gives me handic attacks. Yes, those are awful. By
the way, I had not had him. I'd had anxiety,
but until I got pregnant, I had never had panic attacks.
It is debilitating, and I know that that means I'm
so far from God because the fact that I'm letting
my worry and my panic consume me to the bottom
of my core means that, like I have pushed God
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out in that moment. Well, I mean, it's a is
a real thing of like you can spind yourself out
of control. I remember one time driving to a show
to see Frankie. I was driving I think to Fresno
and I had one while driving, which was really scary.
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I could not tell you. I wish I could tell you,
but probably was l A was expensive, Let's be honest.
It was probably like how am I gonna pay? Yes, um,
I don't know what it was, but I had one
while driving and it scared me so bad. I called
my parents and they calmed me down. I mean, I'm
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a I'm a grown woman. And I called my parents
and they called me down, and I had to realize, you,
you can't do this again, Like you've got to find
ways to breathe, because you could hurt yourself for another driver.
And I once again I prayed hard on on this
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kind of anxiety, and I feel like God recently took
it from me. I do. I would highly recommend it
because I couldn't really figure out what to do on
my own, and I didn't really know anybody else talking
about it. I didn't know what a panic attack was.
I had no idea. What was going on? I didn't
like shut your body down when you and I'm driving
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and there's no shoulder on this highway. So, um, chest
was beating hard, like out of my chest. You're starting
to get like nauseous and sweating, and I think I
started singing really loud to like calm myself down, and
it worked because it was so bad. I think it
made me laugh. Um, But yeah, I really think it's
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all about the surrender. Do you and Frankie? What is
y'all spiritual life together? Like? It's actually one of my
favorite obviously. I mean, I've I love talking about God
and spirituality. But we when he's home, we get into
this routine of we wake up, we snuggle, of course,
he ugle our dog, and then we make coffee. We
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are such coffee people, like how do you drink your coffee?
Just black? But we get this coffee called pure? It
is so good? Are you drinking coffee right now? I
drink a little bit? Okay, Okay, when you're done, you've
got this baby, girl, I'm getting to some pure because
it's like jet fuel. Okay. Um. And then we will
do spiritual time for about an hour, hour and a half.
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What do you do during that time? He'll go sit
in his favorite chair. I'll go on the front of
the house, sit up in my chair. I'll read, I'll pray,
I'll meditate, I'll worship, listen to music. Um, I'll have
conversations with God. I'm working on listening, which is I
should do it so so much more because I hear
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things like God, we'll speak to me and that's in
the journal, and then when we're done, we'll come together
and we'll talk about like, Okay, would you read about
her baby? God said this to me? So does he
kind of do the same thing? What do we spiritual timeline? Same?
He loves to read, he'll pray, he'll write notes or
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just we love it. We're we are truly obsessed with it.
And when we get out of that routine, we realize
we need it. And so it's hard to do when
we're out on the road or traveling to see family.
But it's seriously our favorite way to start the day.
Oh what a great way just to be so connected, calm, centered,
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focused on what really matters. Yeah, and then you get
to have these great deep conversations about what you just
learned about what you read or what you found while
reading the Bible, or Babe, I went back and looked
in my prayer journal and I prayed this eight months
ago and look at just got answered. Or yeah, it's
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he definitely has a journal. I think he wanted to.
He just told me he wanted to start keeping a
prayer journal. Yeah, I would encourage to anyone. It's it's
just amazing how many actually get answered. But if you
don't write it down maybe or take notice of it,
you might not even realize that your prayers are getting answer. Yeah,
you're gonna forget. I mean, I'm telling you I have
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so many and I blanked, probably just being a little
bit nervous right now, but I have hundreds hundreds of
prayers answered. Yeah. So what brings you the most joy?
I'm full of joy right now. Um, you're a joyful person.
Every time you just radiate joy. I'm just I feel
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lucky to be alive, like truly. Um, what brings me joy? Time? Truly? Time?
But it sounds so cliche, but time with people that
I love. I just it's the most precious gift. I
don't ever want to take that for granted. And I'm
not always in my best mood or on my my
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a game. But time is it brings me joy? Um,
obviously my family and Frankie and our little dog and
Old Smokey's brings me joy. It truly does. Watching Frankie
on stage brings me joy. What do you love most
about watching him on stage? Everything? I geek out like,
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I suit like hardcore, looked like a super super fan. Um,
He's just he was born to be an entertainer. You
I watch him and I'm mesmerized. He just it's I
don't know how to describe other than he's the most
amazing singer to me, songwriter, guitar player, an entertainer because
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from the time you show up, from the time you
have to leave, you want more. And I'm his wife,
like I cannot get enough of his show. I really can't.
What's your favorite song? And he sings, Oh, well, that's
hard because I honestly love all of his albums. Um okay.
He has a lot of new music coming out. He
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wrote all of his new music, and he's got this
song called well there's a ton but there's a really
neat one called two Planes that he wrote when I
was living in l A. And when you hear this song.
It is so cinematic and it's it's our story, and
I think when people listen to it, they might think
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it's about a breakup, but it's not. It's about two
planes having to fly in different directions and how it
would break our hearts every time we had to do that.
And it's so sweet and it's so romantic, and it
just it's dramatic and it I just can't get story.
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It's a great love story, and it was it was
meant for the last album, but it got a second
life now and I am I've been rooting for this
song for so long. Yes, so clearly I'm a big fan. Okay,
what is the secret to marriage, especially being married to
an entertainer? Secret to make someone who has lots of
adoring female fans? Oh? Could I ever bother you? I
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feel like he set it up to where he's so
trustworthy that I never had to I truly never thought
about it. He made me feel comfortable with that and
he always has so um where I love that he
makes other ladies or kids or men feel special like
it doesn't make me jealous. Um, But what's the secret's marriage? Um?
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That's such a great question. I just feel like it's
being authentically yourself with each other and allowing the other
person to authentically be themselves. I want Frankie too, always
feel like he can just be himself around me, and
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when we don't agree on something, or if we get
fussy or we're worried about something that we don't keep
a record of it, like we talk about it, we
communicate about it, and we just let it go. And
I've always loved that about him. He's such a great
communicator and he truly always has been, and so I think,
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obviously that's a great a great one, such a good
point though to not keep score, because what good is
that going to do? Well? Most of the time, I
feel like when anybody could be with a family member
or a friend, when any you kind of get in
those those TIFFs or those ruts in life, it's because
you're truly worried about something or you've got something on
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your heart. It's not really about what you're talking about,
and it's just allowing that person to be in the
space that they need to be, supporting them and not
making them feel bad about it. And he's so good
about that. I mean, there was no handbook for Frankie
and grief, Like, how did he deal with that? Dad's yeah,
he for handling his wife who was going there, and
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he was so kind and so supportive, and he just
let me feel when I needed to feel. And I'm
forever grateful for that because that wasn't easy on him.
He not only had his own grief, but he had
the burden of my grief as well. So I think,
honest is a calm place for you to fall. Oh yeah,
I mean, and always always pointing me to heaven, always
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reminding me that this earth isn't it. Where did he
get that bath from? He's he's been a really spiritual
man since his parents instilled it in him, since he
was a kid. And I think he was always really
curious and um he continued to study throughout college and
he's I was always very impressed with him. Like I
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said early on, he's just always stayed close to God,
he really has, and so um he's always pushing himself
to learn more and now we get to do it together.
And yeah, very grateful. I Actually, you know what, that's
the key to marriage is we just try to put
God in the center of it, like put him in
the center that was in our wedding vowels. We put
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him in the middle. And if I'm honoring God, I
will always be honoring my husband. So that is a
great point. Just keep him in the middle. He's in
the middle of us right now. I I love you too.
Tell me about your wedding. Okay, I want to talk
to you forever, but we're already getting close in our
so like, hey, about your wedding because you'll have like
a really cool theme. M This was a really cool place.
(55:35):
So it's called Star Hill Ranch. It was um in
be Cave, Texas. So that's just a little outside of Austin,
where I grew up. And it was a little wild
West town. So there was I can't remember how how
many buildings there were, but there was a really neat
um old school that I think was our reception hall.
(55:57):
I should know this, but I swear sometimes I just
lose memory. It's like where did they go? Well, there's
just too much coming in, thank you, because sometimes like seriously,
what's going on? Um, we got married in this little
tiny white church. Okay, get this. We talked about prophecy
right before we chose the location of our wedding. I
put together like a four picture like collage for Frankie.
(56:21):
Of we knew we wanted a little white church, so
I went on Google and I just chose a cute
little white chapel of the white Chapel. It was the
white chapel we got married in. And that was just
freaking random. And we didn't know that till maybe after
we got married. Found a picture of a white chapel
you liked. I thought it was super cute. It was tiny,
(56:44):
and then you stumbled upon this cute little town in
b Cave where it was, Yeah, it was in b Cave, Texas,
and uh, yeah it was What did you do when
you found that out? Did you freak out? I just
know that it was divine, you knew. I just knew
it was divine because we wanted to get married on
a Sunday um which I don't think a lot of
people get married on Sunday because it's the most spiritual
(57:04):
day of the week. I mean, it could be any day,
but to us, we just, like I said, we wanted
to keep God at this center, so we made it Sunday.
And this little wild West town, it was so cute,
had so much character, like grooms quarters, was like this
old general bar where it was a long bar and
cool neon lights, and so our guests could walk around
(57:26):
this little town and go from building to building. And
it was in March, and in Texas it's usually like
eighty degrees. It was fifty seven degrees on our wedding day,
which was amazing because everyone's all dressed up, you're dancing,
you're hot, so no one's sweating, no one's sweating, no
one's freezing. Yeah. No, there might have been a few
(57:47):
ladies who needed some like shawls or cardigans or something
not like dying. That sounded so old. People still say
shawls soon. Yeah, was, and so of course like I have,
you know, a big skirt on, and so I wasn't
hot dancing and it was incredible. My mom walked me
(58:08):
down the aisle diad. Y'all got married after your dad passed.
My dad had passed about two months before we got married.
So the the incredible thing was he knew every single
detail of our wedding. He went to the location, he
was with me when I bought my dress. He um,
(58:30):
he saw everything. So yeah, and that was honestly. He
saw the location December and we lost him on January four.
So God at least gave me um the piece of
knowing my dad knew where how the wedding would be.
Did he send you any signs when you're on your wedding? Oh?
(58:52):
I wish I could say yes. It was probably just everywhere.
We tried to incorporate him in a bunch of different
ways in the wedding, like even just the smallest little
detail of his picture was in my bouquet, and um,
we uh he loved that song by Usher. I think
it's called Yeah. I want to see it's called Yeah.
(59:13):
He just he loved it. And so instead of doing
the father daughter dance, we told everyone to come out
to the dance floor and we all danced to that,
and um, so yeah he was. He was everywhere throughout.
But Yssie, you're so amazing. I appreciate you sharing all
this and also saying that there is no handbook for
(59:36):
Greek because there isn't there's not and for anyone who's
going through it. And I was like, I just feel
like I'm doing this wrong or it looks like this
for somebody else. Why why does it look like this
for me? You're not doing it wrong, like you can't
do it wrong. And I just don't think it's something
you finish. I think it's something you just learned to
(59:58):
live with. And um there are days that I'm better
at it than others, But um, I just I try
to look for the connection between heaven and Earth. That's
why I talk about it so much. I have to,
or like, what's the point, yeah, shedding such light to
(01:00:18):
others by sharing that, I'm trying hopefully, I don't want
to shed darkness that you could never You're so bright,
you're so sweet. I'm sure I've definitely shed some darkness. No. No,
you just have human emotions that you're so good at
working through and like getting to the core of them.
Instead of just breezing through them, you're feeling of and
living them. And I had to learn that. To learn that, Yeah,
(01:00:40):
it was it was easier to not want to think
about it and to try stuffy. Yeah, and that's obviously
we can't do. How did you learn to not stuff? Um? Well,
it started to come out in other way as you
started to have more anxiety. I started to I had
heart palpitations. I Uh, my sister and I both just
(01:01:02):
started having some health problems. I mean truly because it
was going somewhere in your body. Yeah, and I believe
in that. And my precious mom she couldn't escape it.
You know, she was alone in her house and she
was able to release her emotions more often, and we
noticed she wasn't getting sick. And it hit my sister
(01:01:26):
and I like, we've got we've we have to we
have to just even if we're in public and you
have to cry, you have you have to let it out.
I mean so I feel like I'm still I'm still
learning that because I can tend to be one that
just wants to be positive and smile all the time.
But um, it's real. It's and there's other people out
(01:01:49):
there like me too. It's real, and it's okay to
like cry every day. I mean, yes, it's okay. I
love to cry. It feels good. It's so good it does.
And if I have to cry and I I have
to cry, if it comes on, I have to let
it out, well that's good. I wish I want to
be more like that well because I feel that same way,
Like if I have all that emotion that I can
(01:02:09):
feel and it's wanting to pour out of my body, yeah,
like if I stuff it in. It just it changes me.
It changes Yeah, it's going to change your day and
the way you relate to people. And um, it's a
it's a process. I'm learning how to thank you for sharing.
I like trap every single interview over to leave your Light. Okay,
(01:02:30):
So I love this part. So okay, then you know
what it is? Just just some inspiration two people listening
to m Just something that you want people to know
that you've learned that maybe you would wish other people
could know, Like just some sort of love this inspirations.
Such a great question and I love the way you
(01:02:51):
word it too. Okay, So I did I pre thought
of this because I honestly I love your podcast, but
I was what does leave your Light mean to me?
And I think leaving your light means using I may
have even said this earlier, but using your unique gifts
and talents, which is your light to light somebody else's.
(01:03:14):
So it's like if your candles not lit and mine is,
then I want to take my lit candle and I
want to light your flame. So leaving your light by
if you're an encourager, encouraged the gifts that you've got
and lift that person up so you might be like
(01:03:36):
a really great teacher and I'm really great encourager, and
I'm like, I just love how you teach people, and
that would be leaving your light on someone that it's
just finding those things because everybody has amazing qualities and
it's just speaking them over people and helping people realize
their own light. Yeah, just bring out their light. Prissie,
(01:04:00):
you are a noble lives and you freaking together are amazing.
Thank you. What a great what a great couple. Y'all
are just like so rooted and such like godliness. But
then you're also so just open with the world too,
Like you're just so easy to be around. You really
have a personality. Come on, I've always been drawn to you.
(01:04:23):
I always have loved talking to and you ask amazing
questions too, So it's not like it comes it really
stems from you because you're the one asking these questions
that we should talk about. Well, I just appreciate you'd
be willing you're willingness to talk about them because I
feel like that's feeling for people, feeling for everyone involved.
(01:04:44):
You know, it's nice to be able to share these
things that are that are so painful because we all
have these painful things, and if we can't talk about
them and realize that we all are going through them, yeah,
we suffer silently. Yeah, And I think that's what makes
me the most sad, is I because of our situation
(01:05:07):
with my dad, We've talked to so many people who
have had the same story that you just would never know.
I mean, you never know what people are going through.
And my new thing is if someone's like rude or
frustrated or mad or that you don't know, just ask
yourself they what are they going through? Like? You do
not know? And it's probably not something great because they
(01:05:27):
obviously it's coming out in their personality. So let's just
cut each other's grace. It's grace grace because I've needed
a lot of grace in my grief, so I have
a lot of grace to give. You're amazing, Thank you
so much for joining me, Thank you for having you
to the rest. And everyone gonna check out Old Smokey's
Boots because they are fantastic. Is it just old? What
(01:05:49):
is your like? You got? It's Old Smokey's Boots dot com.
Y'all are going to freak. I love you, love you too.
You're the best b
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