October 11, 2021 • 50 mins
Laci Kaye is SO PRETTY it actually hurts me. Like I feel deep pain for her beauty, and soul, and whole vibe. I know that sounds super emo but it’s just the truth. Some people just hit ya immediately. It was love at first everything for me with her. You want to hear her journey. It’s incredible. Raised by her single mama who gave birth to her at 16, Laci shares with me intimate details of her childhood and gives a first hand, detailed explanation about her journey with American Idol… what the judges are really like, even secrets Katy Perry told her ;)!! Laci Kaye Booth has coined the phrase “dreamy country” for her style and brand, and let me tell ya something, she lives up to it and more! I feel like we were made to be friends and I just love her voice and songs, including her single, SHUFFLE. So good. Make sure you listen through to the extra 2 endings of the podcast. She forgot to announce what stars sing on her album. Twice. So you have to secret endings you definitely want to stick around for!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, Hi, Carola. She's a queen. She's getting not afraid
to fail, so just let it flow. No one getting Carol. Carol.
(00:27):
I am beyond thrilled, like over the mid thrill because
I have Lacey K. Booth in my home, in my
studio with me right now. What's up? You have a
beautiful home. Thank you, thank you. Um, I have I
feel like I have been so busy lately, but thank
you so much for having me. Yeah, your life has
(00:48):
been quite the world one, I would say lately for sure.
When did lately start? Oh gosh, radio tour, radio tour
in the pandemic. Um, So we were actually going to
go on actual tour like in in August. Yeah and um.
And then right like a couple of days before we
were still leave, we get told like the Delta variant
(01:09):
was getting worse. So we just made it all virtual
and we zoom in with these radio stations and it's
it's great. It's intense. Yeah, that's kind of I feel
like that's kind of maybe a better way to do it.
I back in my day, baby, I was an artist,
and I did. I feel like we're on radio tour
for like two years, just like going around radio set
well and then used to play for that's what I'm
(01:29):
about to start doing. So our fears and festivals they're back,
um radio sho radio shows. I mean as much as
they can, as much as we all can, just like
to this week. Oh my god. Okay, so you're twenty
six years old. You were top five American Idol Season
two ret reboot. Explain this to me. I'm so old
(01:50):
and try not to be choogy, but like I'm I
just learned chogy. Okay, great, and you're ginghi talk just
do everything everything, and they just are the ones that
broke the news that skinny jeans are out, So I ho,
I know, So how what are you SUPs wear with boots?
We'll see you're a trend setter and a style of makers.
Everyone put it on TikTok and then let's follow you.
(02:11):
Let's be like skinny jeans are actually back in and
momow is the way to go inside parts, inside parts. Okay,
so you're twenty six, you tell me about the American
Idol season. It was American Idol season season boots to rebase,
so they started over. It used to be on Box,
now it's on ABC. So they started over after season fifteen.
(02:31):
So I was technically on season two, that's what they
call it, But I was season seventeen. Is what I
like to tell people because it makes more sense. Were
you so excited nervous? What were the feelings because you
come from a small town, it's very small town. How
many people in your town and you know everyone basically
did everyone? Was everyone in love with you? Oh my gosh,
(02:52):
they were sold Like after Idol, everybody everybody was so supportive.
But before no, I was so introverted. Now you weren't.
Yeah really, what does that look like? What is introverted? Uh? Well,
I mean I kind of forced myself to be extroverted.
Like I've made myself trial for cheerleading, and I was
a cheerleader for seven years. You've freaked out when you
(03:14):
had to do like shows in front of the whole school. Yeah,
well I was always the girl who's saying too, But
I wouldn't talk. I would just get up there and
sing the national anthem and then would be like, you
did a great job. Thanks. So I'm not really introverted.
What goes on in an introverts head when you have
a big performance to do and you know you like
want to do the actual skill talent thing that you have,
(03:37):
but doing in front of the people is a big
part of it as well, Like what what what do you?
How do you deal with those I feel like there's
so many emotions at once and you're just trying to
keep um yourself together. Because I had my first like
panic fullam panic attack on idol like before, right before
I think it was like top six, and it was
(04:01):
just getting too much, like between the social media and
having to do interviews all the time and like being
in front of all those people and know one when
that red light comes on, the red light thing is
a real thing, right, six million? Yeah, like because everyone
says like the red light comes on, and like you, yeah, yeah,
I have I'm sort of having mild heart pop patients
right now thinking about it, like all of a sudden,
and here's like Katy Perry, Ryan and Luke Bryan, Ryan
(04:26):
Seacrest and Bob Is all sitting in front of you,
as well as six million people in American. Idol is
not just like some casual show that people think is JUGI.
It's really like it is the happening things. So everyone
cools watching it that reads are watching, right, seed Nicks
watched it. That's what I was like, You now probably
actually like sing a duet with her because of it,
(04:47):
you have done one with her on America. I would
fall in flor and die. Yeah somebody, okay, So tell
me what happened in that panic attack? Like how did
you get there? Gosh? Um? I just remember I got
off the phone my mom because I knew something was wrong.
I just fell off and I was about to go
on stage, and I called her and she was like,
are you okay, like she could just tell him my voice,
(05:07):
and I was like, yeah, I gotta go. I love you,
and she was like, dude, good luck. And then immediately
I just started like I couldn't breathe. I couldn't catch
my breath. I walked. We weren't supposed to go anywhere backstage,
we weren't supposed to, but I just like left the
room that we were held up in and just started walking,
and producers started following me because they knew something was wrong.
And I just couldn't catch my breath and cried all
(05:30):
my makeup off and they had to like touch me
up real quick and went back on stage. So did
the crying relieve the panic attack. Yeah, I felt like
it did well. Also, a producer was like, uh, she
put water on my hands, like my palms, you could
feel it. And then she was like, this is going
to help. Um, don't worry about crying your makeup off,
your fine and just like hugged me and then I
was good. You have to get it out and to
(05:52):
resent her, right. I think that's what I was holding
in so many emotions during the time. What are the
emotions that someone holds him when you were on a
kind of idol. Now you have made it to top six.
You are like hot thing on TV. Everyone's loving you,
voting for you. You're winning people's approval. I mean that's stressful.
You have to win votes, right, right, don't do anything stupid,
don't say anything. That's what's going on in my mind.
(06:15):
I know. Do you ever forget the words? Well, no,
there's no prompters for for the lyrics, just for like this.
You've ever had like any kind of like that much
exposure all of a sudden, have all this at once,
I mean that is throwing you to the I felt
like anything, I know you can exactly. I called a
(06:36):
boot camp, and it's exactly what it was yeah, intense, intense.
Don't you get through that? It's like okay, okay, so
you get to like the final few episodes, how do
how do you start feeling when you're starting to get
towards the end, like oh my gosh, like you're like
making it. And I remember in your audition, Luke Brian
wanted to like call you the winner. I could tell
and everyone's like, it's some coach commit to your soulful boys.
(06:59):
Everyone really want you to stay in your lane because
they know you're special, which I thought was so cool
that all those artists were saying that from the beginning,
right right, like you have something special. Don't do what
everyone tells you to do because you have something special.
Right They thought that I would get lost up there
in the belters since because I mean I was scared
of that too. Like I hear a beautiful voice second belt,
I get really intimidated, you know, because I could never
(07:21):
do that. I always have I've always had a soft voice.
But what you have is so special. Thank you. And
I told you that when you walked in, Like I
am jaded because I'm so surrounded by amazing talent, which
is a huge blessing. Brian Nashville and be surrounded by
office talent. But your voice is so special. Thank you
so much. It is so special. I thank you that
(07:43):
that means the world to me. Early does. I just
I felt like my whole life I've been I've been
wanting to be a Nora Jones or Stevie Nicks because
those were my idols since I was little, and I
just wanted to um do what they do. Did you
develop this tone on your own? Was this a tone
you're trying to develop or did it just come out naturally?
(08:03):
I feel like it somewhat came out naturally because I knew,
I mean, I knew I couldn't hit high built high notes.
And when I was younger, I wanted to sing like
Marcina mcbrade because I was like one of my mom's
favorite singers, and I just I couldn't. And so I
think I heard Stevie Nick's voice on the radio when
my step dad was taking men school one morning, and
(08:24):
I was like, oh, she has like a raspy voice.
I mean, it's not as soft as Nora's. But and
then I heard Nora's voice and I was like this works,
Like this can actually work. You can you can do
something with it? You don't have to always belt well.
I think that's the thing, especially with women, like you
feel like, you know, women singers are belters like you said,
but like there's this whole other vibe that you can
(08:48):
put out that like nobody just wants like one flavor
all the time. You need it all right exactly. I
think it's hearing I have stalked you so hard, like
I actually would just like you beat your songs treasure?
Do you like treasure? That when that one comes out,
I feel like that's going to be your leg before
it cheats, is going to be the song that like
(09:10):
it's catapults you too massive? Its treasure is like whoa
this is it? Tell me about that song? It's it's
a fun one. I Um, we had all I think
eight eight songs picked out to record because you wrote
three songs quarantine right during quarantine. Gosh a lot of writing?
Are you writing? That's like more than every day? Yeah?
(09:31):
I felt like it was. I mean I would write
a lot like by myself too, but um, I took
a break. I had to because it was just like
to write about for three d songs like what's on
your mind. You know, I thought, being like in the
pandemic and being in one bedroom apartment, it would be
like really hard to be inspired by stuff. Um, I
was live with my boyfriend and my two dogs. Okay,
(09:52):
you weren't all alone in the pandemic, because that's a
that's a lot. Yeah, okay, so you have a lot. Well,
I guess you know if you're gonna like make it
a break up with your boyfriend, if you sur write
the pan demic, right, that's when I wrote, wrote used
to you. I sat down to write it as a
breakup song. You're gonna break up with it? Yeah? Well,
I mean we we were in a one bedroom apartment.
Like it was like I never lived with anybody before
in my life but my parents. So we'll test you. Yeah.
(10:14):
So you're like, okay, I'm gonna hear You're like, okay, boyfriend,
I'm gonna give you this song, and then I'm gonna
be gone. We're broken up, all right? How you're going
to drop it? Yeah? I mean the title is used
to you, like, I'm you know, I sat down to
write as like a breakup song, and then I was like,
it's not a breakup song. I really like this guy,
and I wanted to work and I think I'm used
(10:35):
to him in all the right ways. Are dropping together forever?
Four years, four years on the seventeenth. Okay, so what
were you writing about during this pandemic? These three hundred
songs you're coming off American Idol? I guess your radio
tours kind of paused for a minute and all everything
sort of paused. So you're just like writing, writing, writing.
(10:55):
Have you haven't started recording your album for your collection yet?
I love that it's called means you can keep adding
to right right Love's so fitting for dreamy country. Thank you? Um,
what are you writing about? What's inspiring you? And like,
what are you pouring into these songs? Um? I was
writing a lot of love songs at the time, and
also a lot of um just like mental health songs
(11:18):
because I felt like during at that time, it was UM,
I think for everybody, it was kind of hard to
you know, stay sane and when you're just inside all
the time and no social no connections you can make
with people. UM, it was kind of hard. But I
started reading some books and watching TV shows and trying
(11:38):
to write about what I was reading and seeing on TV.
But helped gravitate towards when you read a book, like,
what are you looking for in a book? Um? I
like thrillers. I did, but lately I've been wanting to
get into the like romance novels, because I feel like
that would kind of make like my writing better when
it comes to love songs interesting. Maybe I don't know,
(12:00):
we'll see. I get too scared with thrillers. I can't
watch anything really well. My mind shuts down. I'm like,
have too fragile. I can't put anything. I don't have
too much going on. I can't. I can't watch it
at night. No, I can't watch any scared movies at night.
I addicted to c S I Miami, and I watch
it all the time. And I just had terrible, terrible
nightmare really and it just made me so fearful. All
of a sudden, I knew terrible things that could happen
(12:22):
that I never knew before. Right, Yeah, it can get
kind of people let you down that whole. Yeah, Okay,
so you signed a big machine. Tell me did you
know that was gonna happen? Were you shopping for record deals?
How did you get your record? Because now here you
are you've been dreaming about this your whole life. You
go on American Idol? What prompted you to go on
(12:43):
American Idol? I had tried out for the Voice twice
already and get rejected. I was like, no more rejection.
So I was like, no, I'm not trying out for
any other TV show, even though American Idol was like
something I watched since I was really little. I voted
up for carry Underwood and then you met her that
that was crazy to You've liked her whole life, it was.
(13:04):
I was just like looking at her like are you real?
Did the same thing to Katie Berry Do It's like,
are you real? Look porcelain just perfect? So you decided
to give it a whirl? I did. I was like
in college, commuting back and forth from my house I
still lived with my parents and thirty hours away from
my bachelor's degree, because that's what my mom and step
(13:25):
bad always told me. Get go, get your bachelor's degree
and then you can move off and do the whole
thing and thing just so you have a backup plan.
And I was like okay, and um thirty hours, thirty
hours away from my degree, and um my mom was
like American idols having tryouts in Houston. You should go.
Mom was the one that did it, and a producer
had reached out and got me in front of the
(13:47):
line pass, so that helped. But she was like, I
really think you should do it. So she drove me
pretty much pushed me out of the car. I was
had flash cards like studying, like from one of my tests,
and she was like, you need to go in. You
just need to try Is this your mom? Yes, yeah,
she's so sweet, your mom. She my best friend. Let
my writer or die exactly, and she like pushed me
(14:08):
on the car. I had forgot my I D that day,
so I was like, I'm probably not even going to
get in, and I did and I sang. And what
was really intimidating about that process is that that at
the open call auditions, they'll have like three tables set
up with a producer at each table and just a
room full of people and who people who are auditioning.
(14:30):
It's an audition in front of other people who are
auditioning while they're singing, So you'll have three people singing
at the same time with this room full of people
that are listening to mixing songs. Is like is it
like crying. I feel like that would just like give
me so much anxiety, especially when you're singing and like
somebody who's like belt and starts, how can you focus
on your song? I that that was like the most
(14:51):
nerve wracking part. I was like, I don't even know
if I can. There's a room people waiting tradition while
three people are auditioning, are there? Are there? They're like
judges before the main judge that you have to get through. Yeah. Users,
So that's also like subjective because like what if your
three producers were like, oh, I don't I don't feel
if they only like three producers in the next spot
would have felt it right, it's so much magic, it
(15:14):
really is. I was like, I feel so lucky to
have gotten the producer that I did, because I don't
know another Everyone sees everyone's gift like one man's trash
is right, right, you know you should have called me
to do that with you. You know, it's like true,
(15:35):
so all the stars have to align and everything has
to like that's why, Yeah, I felt like it was
like I felt like it was really magical, like the
entire time because you have a great experience. I did.
I did I think. Um, the only thing that was
kind of like a crutch was getting you to the
social media stuff, like all the comments and the people
(15:57):
are they night there's oh, there's both. There's people who
are so super nice and supportive, and then there's people
who they'll judge you from head to toe. And it's
just something I think, Um, a lot of people are
going through with this TikTok thing. Yeah, how do you
navigate that being in a public eye? Um gosh, they
(16:18):
told me you're in top twenty. Oh no. Once we
got to top forty, the producer said, whatever you do,
do not read the comments, do not read them. And
I was like, I did the opposite. I read every
single one because I just want to know what people thought,
you know, and um, completely, I mean ruined me at
(16:38):
My mom would come down every weekend and I would
just like lay in her lap and just cry like
I was just so bent out of shape about And
you could read like a thousand great comments and then
that one bad one about yourself would just completely tear
you up, Like it just sticks. It would stick to
my brain and I would just that's what all I
would think about. And but then I learned my lesson
(16:59):
and I was like, no more, no ma reading comments,
but I grew thicker skin. I'm kind of grateful for
it because now I'm like, anybody could say anything to
me and I'd be like, Okay, projection of your own
life that you're wearing in right, thing to do with
you right, because you have to be a certain kind
of miserable to go out and try to attack somebody
a complete stranger on online. So what is that like?
(17:20):
Sky rocking? Skyrocketing from fame from like a town of
five thousand. You've always been musical, You've always had this gift,
You've always been a performer, but now you're like you
have stardom around you. What is that? Like? How do
you transition from those very extreme opposites so quickly and
you don't have like a buffer period. They're not like, oh,
(17:41):
let's just work our way into this and gradually game
fans and like right, it was. There was a lot
of times that I would not post on social media
just because it would just be like, Okay, two hundred
and twenty sorry, two thousand people are going to see this,
and like, you know, it's it's just it's weird going
(18:04):
from like just a small group of people you know
is gonna see this about you, and then to that
many people. But um, it was an adjustment because I
felt like right after Idol, I got to spend a
few months at home and then I moved and I
thought I was coming back for a couple of months,
but I ended up. I was like, no, I don't
want to and I got an apartment in Nashville and
(18:26):
that's a big So now you're moving to Nashville right right,
And you don't probably know that many people, maybe some
people from the show only new my manager how you
just met her and well, um, there's a deal with
red Light and American Idol. Well you got the best one.
I know. I know I from the moment I met her,
(18:47):
I was like, that's the one. And I enjoy working
with females. It's great to have really nice to females. Completely. Yeah,
she she gets it, she gets she's in the room.
So that's what we're talking nice. I'm just kidding it. Truly,
Rachel's best. She is. Um, Okay, so then you moved
to Nashville. Are you signed a big machine yet? When
(19:09):
does the record deal happen? Because you don't automatically get
a record deal when you're top five from American Idol
or do you Um, no, they have to you know,
pick up get one right. Well, I was already signed
with nineteen. They ended up picking me up. No, nineteen, Um,
it's a label from Idol, So I'm signed with a
Big Machine and nineteen. So they ended up picking me
(19:31):
up um after the show, and then they actually paid
for me to come to Nashville and be here for
a few months. And uh but I knew once those
three months for up that I would need to have
like a record deal Nashville to be able to afford
to be in Nashville, or publishing deal or you know,
(19:52):
to go get one Like how do you what do
you do? Go like knock on people's stores, Like how
do you go get a record deal? I mean, I
still I think what really started the buzz was I
started writing a lot, but different writers and UM made
those connections. And then once you know, people like publishing
people were UM, I guess my name was kind of
(20:12):
circulating that way, and then Big Machine caught up on it.
But I will say how my whole record deal kick
started was I I had a meeting with Dan Huff
who is my producer, and actually Autumn House from Red
Light brought me over there and because she knows him,
and we had a meeting and we were just talking
(20:34):
and I played him one song and he was like,
I want to produce see it. And I was like what.
And so that was December of twenty nineteen, and I
think he had a Christmas party with Jimmy Harnan, which
is the president of my label, me to He's so great,
(20:55):
He's so great. And then um, so he showed him
some of my music and then we had a meeting
in January, and um then that's when we were you know,
we didn't I didn't actually sign until August because the
pandemic it So I would like to ask people, what
is it like when you actually live your dreams. So
(21:16):
many people have these big dreams and they just keep
them as dreams because dreams are, especially big dreams are
often hard to come true. You are living your dreams,
so what is that like? You have national exposure, people
are loving you, You're signed a major management, major record deal.
You performed with some superstars, like you were on the
(21:37):
radar of country music, which is what you've always wanted.
What does it feel like? Does it feel like it
felt in your dreams? It does Sometimes I think I
tell people have imposter syndrome because sometimes I'm like, really, yeah,
I'm like, is this really the life I'm living? Like
I cannot believe this? Like what like something magical is
going on, because like I've always seen it, prayed for it,
(21:59):
I've always wished for it. Um, there's moments where I'll
be like, Lacey, stop and really like appreciate this moment
because I mean, look at what you're doing. And then
I'll just sit there and be like, thank you God,
because it's just something I always wanted, all the details
and the extra parts and the grind behind it. Though,
(22:19):
did you know about any Because so many people are like,
you have this dream and it's all glamorous, right, talk
to me about the actual grind behind the dream, because
that's like behind Auzzi the Wizard of Oz when you
open the like, oh, there's this whole other world all
right time and right on all the time. You can
(22:39):
have a bad day and you can't see your best
because you're presenting yourself, which is a brand. It's interesting
when you are the brand. Oh I know, I'm still
getting to that. Right, Everyone who sees you expects you
to be your brand, right, so you can't be in
a bad mood. You can have a bad day, like
exactly what is that? One person right never forgets that
(23:01):
would be like, well, Lacey was so mean to me.
I know, pressure, isn't it? It really is. It's it's
a grind for sure, all of it, all the behind
the scenes it is. And I don't think I was prepared,
um mentally for how much you know, you would have
to be on And like I said, I'm pretty introverted naturally,
so um, having you know, to to talk and um
(23:23):
and just do interviews and that's something that I was, Um,
I'm glad that. Um it's kind of getting me out
of my show. I'm glad born. Okay, So talk to
me about your mom. Talk to me about your relationship
with her. I love her so much. She had you
when she was seventeen and her yea, yeah, well her
(23:44):
my dad got married for a year and then divorce.
But um, yeah it was just me and her and
your dad. Because I watched a lot of your videos,
he wasn't necessarily like super present in your childhood, right right, right? Yeah?
He Um, he's a Texas music artist, so he's what's
his name, Jody Booth? I know, I know he Um, yeah,
(24:07):
he was playing gigs all around Texas when I was
growing up, so I mean he was he was grinding,
he was working hard, he was chasing his dream. So, um,
I don't knock him for that, but um, we did.
I I tell people that whenever I think I was fifteen,
he took me on a trip to Arkansas to record
because he had heard that I was, you know, getting
(24:28):
into the music thing, and I mean he had known it,
but he had heard that I started writing for my mom.
My mom called him and said she's been writing her
own songs, and so he was like, I want to
take you up to Arkansas and at another guy who
has a studio. And I don't even know where the
story is going. Tears are here. He was like, I
want you to come up to the studio and record
(24:50):
a couple of songs that you've been writing. And I
was like okay. And it was a long drive. It
felt like a long drive, and I remember looking over
at him and being like, who is this guy? I
feel I feel like I know, but I don't know.
At the same time, and so we just started bonding
like that, bonding over feeling like who is this guy
that your dad? Right? Right? And then I mean the
(25:11):
whole town knew he was because he was, you know,
famous in a small town, and uh, they'd be like,
where's your dad at this weekend? Or your Jody boost
daughter and and it just feels so weird sometimes. I
remember you didn't have much time with them, really no.
I mean he would come get me some holidays and
I would get to spend a little bit of time
with them, and we'd always bond over music. But um,
(25:31):
I think that I tell people that that Arkansas trip
was like a turning fort point in a little bit
of a way, um, just because I got to know
him a little better and he got to know me
a little better. And uh, from then on we've been
building our relationship. Were you able to share your hearts
a lot more vulnerably because you could speak to each
other through music? Right? I know that sounds so cheap,
(25:51):
Like really, your hearts could speak through music a hundred percent.
You can write songs to each other and like show
each other songs like have you heard this song? You know? Yeah?
Definitely yeah, And then he would like help me, you know,
like I had taught myself. He taught me my first
three guitar chords. Then I taught myself you know, a
lot more via the internet, and then he would like
(26:13):
help me with my technique. And I mean just yeah,
he was. He's been really great together. Oh yeah, Um, well,
before I went to Nashville, I'm only ever written by
myself and with him, But I wouldn't say we wrote together.
I would write a song and i'd take it to
him and he'd like, you know, and help you revise
(26:34):
and edited. So you're writing school, yeah, pretty much. Yeah, definitely.
What do you love the most about your relationship with
your mom? Oh my gosh, I feel like I could
I can tell her anything and she, you know, no
matter what, she'll she'll always support me and love me.
And but she always tells me when I'm wrong, Like
she's very very blunt, and she's always been that way
(26:57):
with me. She's just really really helpful, really helpful. It
really is, because I'm I'm always going to need that
for sure. M hm much. Okay, So talk to me
about your songs that you have on your collection. Shuffle
is your single and it's kind of describing you as
a person and like dating, talk to me about this,
(27:17):
and should your boyfriend be worried? I feel like your
boyfriend's hanging in there. He's Oh, he's hanging in there.
He yeah, definitely. I was on my way to write
this song, and um, I wrote it with my buddy
Sam Ellis and Derek Sutherland, and I was on my
way to Sam's house and just driving, and I didn't
really have any ideas for the day. And um, I
don't remember if I just started thinking about my grandma
(27:40):
or the song stand By Your Man actually came on.
But for some reason, I started thinking about my grandma
and how she would, uh, we would have karaoke nights
on her back porch, and everybody in my family, my
mom's side, loves to sing karaoke, So your musical all
over the yah, my Dad's whole side of the family,
they're all musicians and uh um, so we would have
(28:02):
karaoke parties and my grandma will get up there and
sing stand by Your Man by Tammy why it and
dedicated to my Grandpa. And she's so funny. She'd be like,
this one's for you, Frank. And because she's been a
saint standard. He was a wild one back in the day,
but she um, she picked up the kids and left
(28:25):
and moved towns and he was like, okay, I gotta
straight enough, and then moved, moved and met her and
he's been an angel ever since. He's just the best person.
And um anyway, that's truly her song to him. And
I was thinking about it, and I was like, what
is my song and my relationship? And I just jokingly
said I'm somewhere between stand By Your Man and Goodbye Role.
(28:49):
But I was like, this kind of harsh, so I
didn't say it. In the ride. I was like, I'm
I was trying to explain to them what I was thinking.
I was like, I'm somewhere between stand By Your Man
and and for for a minute they were like this
is this girl talking about and then Derek mich writer
kind of filled into blank. He was like an earl
had to die that song. And I was like, you
said it. I didn't have to say it, so I
(29:09):
don't have to be the man hater. Oh I love
it so much, okay, and you have to tell me
about treasure. Where did that one come from? Because I'm
like obsessed with treasure. Oh my gosh. So I can't
get involve them. But treasure is like it's stuck in
my head. It can get stuck in your head. It's crazy. Um.
We had all eight songs, you know, ready to record
(29:31):
and and then I had written Treasure like last minute
and Jimmy, it's always last night. I know, last minute,
it really is. And I wrote it with Jesse, Joe Dillon,
Laura Belts, and Jimmy Robbins terrible, terrible best right. I
think it was actually a day they were supposed to
write with Maren and then Marion had something come up,
so they were like, Lacy, do you want to I
(29:52):
was like, yeah, okay, kill or combo right right? And um,
so I walked into the room and um, I had
written with all all of them before, but separately, never together,
and um, I think it was the first time Jimmy
wrote at his house, so this is like the first
song written at Jimmy's house and yeah, right, And so
(30:14):
I walked in and Laura had already been like, you know,
thinking about the idea, and she said, I see, would
you call yourself trash and a song? Yeah? Actually I was,
So we just Uh. We joked about it, and then
we we wrote it and I really, I really liked it.
Liked how sassy it was. I liked how fun it was.
(30:37):
And in the actual demo, the Donna Nana Donna Donna, No,
it was whistles. It was actually whistles. And I didn't
have as much of as the Latin vibe as it
has now. Um and Jimmy um harnin My Guy Big Machine.
He he was like, Lacy, you have Latin roots, he was,
(30:58):
And my mom's have Mexicans. Um a quarter, I tell everybody.
And he was like, why don't we make this really
like have a Latin vibe? And I love I loved it.
I love the idea, and so we really we really
went with it. Okay, So I have to know, what
is Katie Perry like in real life? Oh my gosh,
she's an angel, she really oh my gosh. Yes, Well,
(31:23):
I didn't really get to spend a whole bunch of
time with her on idol Um. I get to see her,
you know, after the show is behind the scenes a
little bit. But every time she would come, she would
come up to me, look me in the eye and
just tell me something that would like completely. I'd be
like thinking about it for days, like just gave me.
Oh yeah, She'd be like, well, I was still in
(31:44):
the show, so when she told me this, it really
related to the show. But she was like do what
you know, it needs to be done now and then
later on in your career you can do what you want.
And I was like, that's something to think about. And
you know, she would talk to me about my confidence
and um, just the fact that Katie Perry believed in
me and wanted me to win was just like the
(32:07):
craziest thing because I remember dancing around my bedroom too
hot and cold. You know, it's crazy. It's crazy when
all starts happening like this is so wild. I know,
he's the craziest person you've met, craziest he like what
was like on my jaws on the ground. I'm just
like trying to hold myself together. I can't believe I'm
being We're not crazy, but just like was the most
(32:30):
like got you going right, Oh gosh, it's between Katy
Perry and I would say, I don't know. I feel
like Miranda Lambert walked past me. I didn't even know
I was there, but walked past me. The c as
and I was like, my knees got weak, Like, oh my,
I love her so much. How does Katie Perry smell?
(32:50):
She's really good. I don't really remember, but she she's
she's beautiful like she I was never like super super
close to her, but old times, yeah, I think she
smelled good like you smell good. Sprayed for you alone
this morning, this was amazing. Thank you, Thank you. I
(33:11):
put on makeup for you. I haven't I really tried
to like give you my best. Thank you? Okay, So
what can we be looking forward to you doing in
the future? Where can we be finding me? Where are
you torn? What's going on? So I'm just doing a
bunch of radio shows. I think this week I'll be
in Charlotte, North Carolina, and Columbus, Ohio, and then um,
(33:34):
I have a bunch of those kind of lined up
all over the states. And then you've gotten used to
road life being gone all the time. No, I just
went on the road for like the first time last week,
and so I hadn't checked a bag for like a
two day trip. So I learned the hard way that
carry on And I'm like, but how am I supposed
to fit most frightday in there, I mean real here,
(33:56):
I know. So yeah, I'm kind of I feel like
I'm really going to get used to it this month
and next month. But um, I have a show. I
have a stagecoach next year. That's a big one. Yeah, yeah,
Coachella for country and music. I know, who are you
playing with? What big artist? Um, Carrie under You probably
(34:18):
be on her bus hanging out before chilling with his
and my fissurees break. I love babies, So that's given me. Okay,
so fine, that's awesome. Well, holy cow, you were just
crushing it and doing it. Tell me what you've learned
about life that you didn't know before this world one experience?
(34:41):
Like what gosh, what has like? What have you learned
about life, humanity, fame? What has like it clicked in
your brain? About all about I tell people this all
the time. The biggest lesson for me was getting out
of my small town. Even they're amazing. I love my
my hometown, but just getting out and getting to meet
other people and being around other culture is and it
(35:01):
really opened my mind and my heart to a lot
of things. And I think it's so important for people
to at least for a couple of months or just
travel meet other people that aren't from your home down
because it just really it changed my you know, a
way of thinking in a lot of ways. And UM
just really opened up my heart. And I've I've made
so many friends and connections since then, and UM, I'm
(35:24):
really grateful for the people I've met and tell me
about like your relationship with God, because I feel like
he is a very present. I'm gonna start crying. Good,
let it out. Gosh. I remember, um, after my very
first tryout in Houston, UM, getting in my car because
they had said they'll they'll call me back if I got,
you know, onto the next round. And I remember I
(35:46):
pulled into my parking spot at sam Houston where I
was going to school, and I just like put my
hands together and I just like prayed for like twenty minutes,
like God, like I really want this, this is what
I want to sorry my whole life. And I promised
I will be like sorry, I never cry. I love
(36:08):
to cry. If I don't cry every day, it's not
a good day, I know, right, I mean, I gotta
let it out. I was like, I'll promise I'll be
a light for you and just if this is the
path that you want me to take, please, you know,
just give me a sign, and like I really really
want it. And and then it just like happened all
like magically, and I just knew it was him. You know,
(36:29):
this is your mission, this is your purpose, This is
your outlet to shine for God. Right, this is your
talent that He gave you. This is like the moment
for you to have to enjoy this talent in life,
but also to use it for a higher purpose. So
that's a bigness of your really a higher purpose. Right,
And you know, you kind of get lost in it
sometimes and right, And I've I've looked back, especially lately,
(36:53):
and like I don't pray as much as I did
during those times, and you know, and sometimes I get
a little, you know, lost for what my purpose is.
And and just lately here lately, I've been remembering and
just feeling really grateful that I still have a relation,
a good relationship with God and um and that my mom,
you know, she prays with me every single day. Like
(37:14):
she'll call me and be like, okay, we have to
say our prayers and okay, she's the best. I love
your mom. I gonna cry about talking about your mom
like that's a good mama mama. Oh man, man, it's
just like I feel you on that. And it is
easy to get kind of lost in all of this
(37:34):
stuff because there's so much going on. There's so many
people involved with your career. Now it's so much more
than you're just your dream. It really is like a
lot of people's business, right, right, So it becomes more pressure,
and it becomes like sometimes you lose the that just
pure connection because that's all you had in the beginning, right,
That's all I had. It's so true. And I think
(37:55):
about the same thing with songwriting, like right, and with
these hits on writers and their pressure and like my single,
whereas before you just wrote, right, you just wrote what
you wanted to say, and um, now it's you know,
I took a three month break off of writing because
it was just it got to the point where I
was like, am I enjoying this still? You know, I've
been doing it so much. I didn't. I felt like
(38:17):
I was a little burnout on it, and I was
I wasn't writing, um and feeling that like magical butterfly
feeling afterwards, and I was like, I'm gonna take a break.
So I took the summer off and have my first
ride like a week or two ago, and it was
just I felt that those magical butterfly feelings all over again.
It was just great, And yeah, I needed that little break.
(38:37):
Good for you to listen to yourself, though, I feel
like that is such the key to like really staying
in your purpose, listening to your intuition. Does your intuition
guide you? Oh my gosh, yes, how does it speak
to you? I just it's just a feeling, and you know,
I talked to myself all the time, so it's I
feel like, did it stop you in your tracks? If
it's not supposed to be? If it's if it's wrong,
(38:58):
do you definitely nauseous? Are like weird? Like when you're
like when something's presenting itself in your life that isn't
the right path for you? Does that feel like? I
feel like it's just it's like a feeling in my body,
Like it's just kind of negative and doesn't this doesn't
need to happen. You need to really pause and think
about it. This is you know, this is the way
you should go, This is what you need to be doing.
(39:19):
And if it's not. What does it feel like when
it's right, Oh my gosh, magical, like just flows flows,
it's just easy. Yeah, it's not that what you're doing
is easy, because what you're doing is actually really hard,
like being an American idol and doing everything you're doing
it really hard, but it was it flowed easy. That's
how I go by it to Like my body now,
(39:41):
I'm so in tune with my body. My body like
yells at me. It makes me feel like nauseous or
like sick. Meditate. I need to. I need to meditate
more because but I just yeah, I feel like you're
When I first met your energy was just like I
was like a love this person. She's amazing. Thank you.
(40:02):
Well I feel that way about you. I feel something
with you, Lacy that is so and my word means nothing,
it doesn't matter, but just coming from me because here
you are sitting with me, I feel something that is
so special and different and like maybe it is your
connection and purity to God, like that's like guiding you
and that he's like really like in this walk with you,
but like it feels very soulful and like you are
(40:25):
just supposed to be doing this. You have something so
unique and special. Thank you so much, so good. Thank
You're just so good. You sound like an angel. Oh
my gosh, thank you. Okay, I want to wrap up
because I know you have other things to do, but like,
what is dreamy country, because like is that what you
call yourself? Dreamy country? Yeah, so I'm here for that.
Thank you. Oh they really did a great job. Was
(40:49):
very dreamy. Your racks of clothes and the things that
you put on, like absolutely on the floor dad, thank you. Yeah,
the purple dress. Did you see the purple dress? The
one that really got me. That was that thing that
was white and the feather. Yeah, I was like one
of my favorites. Couldn't take that home. But I could
not handle that. You're like coachure or I say that
(41:10):
word wrong coach or you know in the country, which
I know that was a good little mixture. But when
I first knowd to town at Um, I got asked
a lot what's your style of music? Like where, because
you know, writers want to know like where you're going.
You know, they don't want to just like help you
write a song that's completely not you. So they would say,
like what's your style of music? And what like what's
(41:31):
your genre in the country lane. And I just came
up with dreamy country because I felt like it fit.
And I know there's like dream pop out there, and
I listened to a bit of that and I really
like enjoyed it. I was like, I wonder I could
do something with the country with this, and and I
remember I told Nathan Chapman, my co writer, first, about
the dreamy country thing, and he was like, I completely
(41:53):
hear it, and he said kind of like a Lana
del Rey meets country music. And I was like, that
would be amazing, Yeah, that would so with some more
jobs though, right right next, Yeah, I feel like they're
pretty dreamy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And even like your style,
like your clothes, the way you sing, the way you
(42:14):
present like you are very dreamy country. It's like totally
thank you. That makes you feel good. Is that hard
to have to brand yourself or is it just natural?
Are you just following what feels natural. I felt like
I followed what felt natural, and I think that really
helped a lot with me getting my record label deal.
That was the first thing I told them. I was like,
I'm dreaming, this is what I am. I am dreaming country.
(42:37):
I didn't and they were they you could see they
were all kind of like intrigued, like, Okay, what is
dreamy country? And so I think that it's really helped me,
you know, in the Nashville to know who I was
before really I moved here. So true because especially if
you come off one of these shows and right, you
have so much talent, but you haven't necessarily had the
time to write around your or your style or your vibe.
(42:59):
Death then you're on this time frame because you know,
you want to seize the day of this opportunity, and
so you want to put music out. But a lot
of times artists, I feel like, don't necessarily know what
their sound is, so they start recording all these songs
that really aren't true to them this yep, and it
can create a little chaos and like how they feel
about their career definitely not a match. Chaos is the
(43:20):
exact word for it. And you know I kind of
went through that a little bit. Even though I called
myself Jamie Country, I would find myself writing a super
pop you know, not to when you're in the national
song but I know quickly that that doesn't fit. You know, yes,
you know you're knowing your sound. That's anything. Knowing who
you are, knowing what feels right to you, knowing you're
(43:40):
like how how you feel connected to your talent. That's
huge and that's really all you need because if you
just follow that, then like it's God leading you the
whole time. Definitely much easier than sometimes I'll be like
I'll write a song and be like where did that
come from? And then okay, um, okay, Well I have
loved having you on. Oh my god, I'd love being here,
(44:03):
so I'm obsessed. Don't worry, I'll keep it chill. But like,
I really love you. I think you're amazing. I love
your soul. I think you're stunningly beautiful, but you're even
more like just beautiful and so full on the inside
your music. Truly, I think you're just just a blessing
to this earth. Oh gosh, thank you. I'm happy to
(44:24):
happy in my life. This was the biggest blessing honestly
for this week for sure. Yeah. Okay, well thanks um
I and we'll we're gonna do like a little footage
later because you brought a guitar, so we're gonna have
to like that. Yeah. I was like, should I bring this? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes.
I always wrap up with leave your light, which is basically,
(44:46):
what do you want people to know? It's just super
open ended, anything anything that just comes to mind. I
feel like I've struggled with this back in, you know,
through idol before idol um. I want people to know
that they're worthy and that they're loved and that you know,
(45:06):
that's something that I've just come to realize. You know,
I'm like, do I deserve this? And then I'm like,
I am worthy. I feel like I am worthy of this,
and as long as I'm kind to others and good others,
I feel like, yeah, you're worthy and and I feel
like everybody needs to know that you're amazing. Have a temper? Ever?
Do you ever get mad? You're so pure and you're
the greatest. Thank you every day. No. You know, my
(45:31):
therapist told me they she's like to my elbows. This
is one thing that intrigued me. She was like, you
monks like they met all the time, and they you know,
they don't age as fast as the rest of the populations,
like even in like they've done like you know, research
(45:53):
on it. There's something their brain that doesn't age either.
It's crazy totally. I need a aren't meditating more? We
get so lost and all this stuff in life that
actually doesn't matter at all thoughts, it makes you in
a whirlwind tailspin, like you feel stressed out. You have
to get it done, but really like no one even
knows right that you're doing it besides your head. Who's
(46:16):
going crazy exactly. And I think meditating really helps and
it slows it down, like like not get wrapped up
in the immediate anxiety of worldly pressures completely. Yeah, I think, yeah,
me you, yes, Thank you so much for joining me.
Everyone having to checkout your music. If you're on tour
(46:37):
near anyone who's listening to podcast, you need to go watch.
You are just absolutely incredible and I am so honored
that you came on the podcast. Oh my gosh, I'm
honored to be here. Thank you, thank you. Okay, we
forgot one very very very important facts that we had
into this podcast, but we come back for your viewing
listening pleasure because manager Rachel's like, you didn't talk about Keith,
(47:02):
And I'm like, who's Keith What? Yeah, he's playing guitar
on Treasure. Uh yeah, I don't even know how I forgot.
I think I was just, yeah, everywhere did you get
to be with I haven't got to meet him yet,
but he so. Jimmy Harnan sent he used to work
with him back in his capital days. He tells the
(47:23):
story all the time. I know, right, he sent in
my music and and then uh, the next day he
said he got a text from Keith that said, yo, Jimmy.
He said, yo Keith, and he said, um. I think
he said something like she's got swagger, She's a real deal.
I'd love to be a part of this and anyway
I can. And I was just like, he texted me
(47:44):
that and told me while I was in Target shopping
and about fell out in the middle of ale. I
was like, why Keith Irban wants to play on a
song that's insane? What do you do with those feelings?
I don't even know. I remember I told my mom.
I called my mom and I was like, can you
believe this? Like, Keith Urban wants to be a part
of my record, like as a new artist like that?
(48:06):
I feel like that. Really he is a champion for
a new artist. He's got a very like giving art
towards one generation to come up and have opportunities. He does.
He's so supportive, and he's so freaking talented and sexy
and so attracted to Nicole Kidman. Everything she plays and like,
(48:27):
how are you actually on this earth? You're so beyond
know her hair's everything, She's dreaming, the way that she
acts in like these roles, and like how are you
a human? Keith? And and she's always like swinging and
when he's performing, I'm like, okay, I saw a card
at this little boutique shop and it had a picture
(48:48):
of Nicole Kidman on it and said are you Kidman me?
And I was like, this is gonna be my thank you,
not to Keith. You have to do that. I know
I have to do it, but I have to do it.
To do that made for this moment for sure, for sure. Okay,
well that was just the last whole thing that we
had to mention, so by for real, by okay, this
is really something we have forgotten to talk about. Charles.
(49:10):
I'm like, who the heck is Charles, Charles Kelly. Charles
Kelly is also on your collection? He is amazing. I
remember seeing him in two thousand and thirteen. I went
to the Houston Life Sock Show and Roudio and got
to watch him and Lady A perform and I was
just like so inspired. And then I gets right with
(49:30):
him like a year ago and crazy, what broken heart
still beats? And he wrote that with you, Yes, Yes,
and he sings it with you. Yes. He's so sweet,
I know, totally living all your teams, like with all
the best people. I feel so lucky. I feel so
lucky to have these people like on board on my
very first project to release. Uh, it's like a weird feeling.
(49:54):
But just to know that they like support me, they
believe in me that much to put their name, you know,
out there on my the project is just insane. He's going,
this is going all the way. Lacy. Yeah, I got
in on this interview before. You don't have time for me.
This is really fun. Charles mkeith, I love you. Are
we thinking anyone else? Is Katie Perry on the Cluction? Okay?
(50:18):
It's line al Ritchie okay? And Luke Bryan. I'm surprised
Luke didn't do something. Oh my gosh, that all happens.
Yeah maybe I hope Okay, alright, bye for real bye
Hi, Hi, Carola. She's a queen. She's getting not afraid
to fail, so just let it flow. No one getting Carol. Carol.
(00:27):
I am beyond thrilled, like over the mid thrill because
I have Lacey K. Booth in my home, in my
studio with me right now. What's up? You have a
beautiful home. Thank you, thank you. Um, I have I
feel like I have been so busy lately, but thank
you so much for having me. Yeah, your life has
(00:48):
been quite the world one, I would say lately for sure.
When did lately start? Oh gosh, radio tour, radio tour
in the pandemic. Um, So we were actually going to
go on actual tour like in in August. Yeah and um.
And then right like a couple of days before we
were still leave, we get told like the Delta variant
(01:09):
was getting worse. So we just made it all virtual
and we zoom in with these radio stations and it's
it's great. It's intense. Yeah, that's kind of I feel
like that's kind of maybe a better way to do it.
I back in my day, baby, I was an artist,
and I did. I feel like we're on radio tour
for like two years, just like going around radio set
well and then used to play for that's what I'm
(01:29):
about to start doing. So our fears and festivals they're back,
um radio sho radio shows. I mean as much as
they can, as much as we all can, just like
to this week. Oh my god. Okay, so you're twenty
six years old. You were top five American Idol Season
two ret reboot. Explain this to me. I'm so old
(01:50):
and try not to be choogy, but like I'm I
just learned chogy. Okay, great, and you're ginghi talk just
do everything everything, and they just are the ones that
broke the news that skinny jeans are out, So I ho,
I know, So how what are you SUPs wear with boots?
We'll see you're a trend setter and a style of makers.
Everyone put it on TikTok and then let's follow you.
(02:11):
Let's be like skinny jeans are actually back in and
momow is the way to go inside parts, inside parts. Okay,
so you're twenty six, you tell me about the American
Idol season. It was American Idol season season boots to rebase,
so they started over. It used to be on Box,
now it's on ABC. So they started over after season fifteen.
(02:31):
So I was technically on season two, that's what they
call it, But I was season seventeen. Is what I
like to tell people because it makes more sense. Were
you so excited nervous? What were the feelings because you
come from a small town, it's very small town. How
many people in your town and you know everyone basically
did everyone? Was everyone in love with you? Oh my gosh,
(02:52):
they were sold Like after Idol, everybody everybody was so supportive.
But before no, I was so introverted. Now you weren't.
Yeah really, what does that look like? What is introverted? Uh? Well,
I mean I kind of forced myself to be extroverted.
Like I've made myself trial for cheerleading, and I was
a cheerleader for seven years. You've freaked out when you
(03:14):
had to do like shows in front of the whole school. Yeah,
well I was always the girl who's saying too, But
I wouldn't talk. I would just get up there and
sing the national anthem and then would be like, you
did a great job. Thanks. So I'm not really introverted.
What goes on in an introverts head when you have
a big performance to do and you know you like
want to do the actual skill talent thing that you have,
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but doing in front of the people is a big
part of it as well, Like what what what do you?
How do you deal with those I feel like there's
so many emotions at once and you're just trying to
keep um yourself together. Because I had my first like
panic fullam panic attack on idol like before, right before
I think it was like top six, and it was
(04:01):
just getting too much, like between the social media and
having to do interviews all the time and like being
in front of all those people and know one when
that red light comes on, the red light thing is
a real thing, right, six million? Yeah, like because everyone
says like the red light comes on, and like you, yeah, yeah,
I have I'm sort of having mild heart pop patients
right now thinking about it, like all of a sudden,
and here's like Katy Perry, Ryan and Luke Bryan, Ryan
(04:26):
Seacrest and Bob Is all sitting in front of you,
as well as six million people in American. Idol is
not just like some casual show that people think is JUGI.
It's really like it is the happening things. So everyone
cools watching it that reads are watching, right, seed Nicks
watched it. That's what I was like, You now probably
actually like sing a duet with her because of it,
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you have done one with her on America. I would
fall in flor and die. Yeah somebody, okay, So tell
me what happened in that panic attack? Like how did
you get there? Gosh? Um? I just remember I got
off the phone my mom because I knew something was wrong.
I just fell off and I was about to go
on stage, and I called her and she was like,
are you okay, like she could just tell him my voice,
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and I was like, yeah, I gotta go. I love you,
and she was like, dude, good luck. And then immediately
I just started like I couldn't breathe. I couldn't catch
my breath. I walked. We weren't supposed to go anywhere backstage,
we weren't supposed to, but I just like left the
room that we were held up in and just started walking,
and producers started following me because they knew something was wrong.
And I just couldn't catch my breath and cried all
(05:30):
my makeup off and they had to like touch me
up real quick and went back on stage. So did
the crying relieve the panic attack. Yeah, I felt like
it did well. Also, a producer was like, uh, she
put water on my hands, like my palms, you could
feel it. And then she was like, this is going
to help. Um, don't worry about crying your makeup off,
your fine and just like hugged me and then I
was good. You have to get it out and to
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resent her, right. I think that's what I was holding
in so many emotions during the time. What are the
emotions that someone holds him when you were on a
kind of idol. Now you have made it to top six.
You are like hot thing on TV. Everyone's loving you,
voting for you. You're winning people's approval. I mean that's stressful.
You have to win votes, right, right, don't do anything stupid,
don't say anything. That's what's going on in my mind.
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I know. Do you ever forget the words? Well, no,
there's no prompters for for the lyrics, just for like this.
You've ever had like any kind of like that much
exposure all of a sudden, have all this at once,
I mean that is throwing you to the I felt
like anything, I know you can exactly. I called a
(06:36):
boot camp, and it's exactly what it was yeah, intense, intense.
Don't you get through that? It's like okay, okay, so
you get to like the final few episodes, how do
how do you start feeling when you're starting to get
towards the end, like oh my gosh, like you're like
making it. And I remember in your audition, Luke Brian
wanted to like call you the winner. I could tell
and everyone's like, it's some coach commit to your soulful boys.
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Everyone really want you to stay in your lane because
they know you're special, which I thought was so cool
that all those artists were saying that from the beginning,
right right, like you have something special. Don't do what
everyone tells you to do because you have something special.
Right They thought that I would get lost up there
in the belters since because I mean I was scared
of that too. Like I hear a beautiful voice second belt,
I get really intimidated, you know, because I could never
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do that. I always have I've always had a soft voice.
But what you have is so special. Thank you. And
I told you that when you walked in, Like I
am jaded because I'm so surrounded by amazing talent, which
is a huge blessing. Brian Nashville and be surrounded by
office talent. But your voice is so special. Thank you
so much. It is so special. I thank you that
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that means the world to me. Early does. I just
I felt like my whole life I've been I've been
wanting to be a Nora Jones or Stevie Nicks because
those were my idols since I was little, and I
just wanted to um do what they do. Did you
develop this tone on your own? Was this a tone
you're trying to develop or did it just come out naturally?
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I feel like it somewhat came out naturally because I knew,
I mean, I knew I couldn't hit high built high notes.
And when I was younger, I wanted to sing like
Marcina mcbrade because I was like one of my mom's
favorite singers, and I just I couldn't. And so I
think I heard Stevie Nick's voice on the radio when
my step dad was taking men school one morning, and
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I was like, oh, she has like a raspy voice.
I mean, it's not as soft as Nora's. But and
then I heard Nora's voice and I was like this works,
Like this can actually work. You can you can do
something with it? You don't have to always belt well.
I think that's the thing, especially with women, like you
feel like, you know, women singers are belters like you said,
but like there's this whole other vibe that you can
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put out that like nobody just wants like one flavor
all the time. You need it all right exactly. I
think it's hearing I have stalked you so hard, like
I actually would just like you beat your songs treasure?
Do you like treasure? That when that one comes out,
I feel like that's going to be your leg before
it cheats, is going to be the song that like
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it's catapults you too massive? Its treasure is like whoa
this is it? Tell me about that song? It's it's
a fun one. I Um, we had all I think
eight eight songs picked out to record because you wrote
three songs quarantine right during quarantine. Gosh a lot of writing?
Are you writing? That's like more than every day? Yeah?
(09:31):
I felt like it was. I mean I would write
a lot like by myself too, but um, I took
a break. I had to because it was just like
to write about for three d songs like what's on
your mind. You know, I thought, being like in the
pandemic and being in one bedroom apartment, it would be
like really hard to be inspired by stuff. Um, I
was live with my boyfriend and my two dogs. Okay,
(09:52):
you weren't all alone in the pandemic, because that's a
that's a lot. Yeah, okay, so you have a lot. Well,
I guess you know if you're gonna like make it
a break up with your boyfriend, if you sur write
the pan demic, right, that's when I wrote, wrote used
to you. I sat down to write it as a
breakup song. You're gonna break up with it? Yeah? Well,
I mean we we were in a one bedroom apartment.
Like it was like I never lived with anybody before
in my life but my parents. So we'll test you. Yeah.
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So you're like, okay, I'm gonna hear You're like, okay, boyfriend,
I'm gonna give you this song, and then I'm gonna
be gone. We're broken up, all right? How you're going
to drop it? Yeah? I mean the title is used
to you, like, I'm you know, I sat down to
write as like a breakup song, and then I was like,
it's not a breakup song. I really like this guy,
and I wanted to work and I think I'm used
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to him in all the right ways. Are dropping together forever?
Four years, four years on the seventeenth. Okay, so what
were you writing about during this pandemic? These three hundred
songs you're coming off American Idol? I guess your radio
tours kind of paused for a minute and all everything
sort of paused. So you're just like writing, writing, writing.
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Have you haven't started recording your album for your collection yet?
I love that it's called means you can keep adding
to right right Love's so fitting for dreamy country. Thank you? Um,
what are you writing about? What's inspiring you? And like,
what are you pouring into these songs? Um? I was
writing a lot of love songs at the time, and
also a lot of um just like mental health songs
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because I felt like during at that time, it was UM,
I think for everybody, it was kind of hard to
you know, stay sane and when you're just inside all
the time and no social no connections you can make
with people. UM, it was kind of hard. But I
started reading some books and watching TV shows and trying
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to write about what I was reading and seeing on TV.
But helped gravitate towards when you read a book, like,
what are you looking for in a book? Um? I
like thrillers. I did, but lately I've been wanting to
get into the like romance novels, because I feel like
that would kind of make like my writing better when
it comes to love songs interesting. Maybe I don't know,
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we'll see. I get too scared with thrillers. I can't
watch anything really well. My mind shuts down. I'm like,
have too fragile. I can't put anything. I don't have
too much going on. I can't. I can't watch it
at night. No, I can't watch any scared movies at night.
I addicted to c S I Miami, and I watch
it all the time. And I just had terrible, terrible
nightmare really and it just made me so fearful. All
of a sudden, I knew terrible things that could happen
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that I never knew before. Right, Yeah, it can get
kind of people let you down that whole. Yeah, Okay,
so you signed a big machine. Tell me did you
know that was gonna happen? Were you shopping for record deals?
How did you get your record? Because now here you
are you've been dreaming about this your whole life. You
go on American Idol? What prompted you to go on
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American Idol? I had tried out for the Voice twice
already and get rejected. I was like, no more rejection.
So I was like, no, I'm not trying out for
any other TV show, even though American Idol was like
something I watched since I was really little. I voted
up for carry Underwood and then you met her that
that was crazy to You've liked her whole life, it was.
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I was just like looking at her like are you real?
Did the same thing to Katie Berry Do It's like,
are you real? Look porcelain just perfect? So you decided
to give it a whirl? I did. I was like
in college, commuting back and forth from my house I
still lived with my parents and thirty hours away from
my bachelor's degree, because that's what my mom and step
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bad always told me. Get go, get your bachelor's degree
and then you can move off and do the whole
thing and thing just so you have a backup plan.
And I was like okay, and um thirty hours, thirty
hours away from my degree, and um my mom was
like American idols having tryouts in Houston. You should go.
Mom was the one that did it, and a producer
had reached out and got me in front of the
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line pass, so that helped. But she was like, I
really think you should do it. So she drove me
pretty much pushed me out of the car. I was
had flash cards like studying, like from one of my tests,
and she was like, you need to go in. You
just need to try Is this your mom? Yes, yeah,
she's so sweet, your mom. She my best friend. Let
my writer or die exactly, and she like pushed me
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on the car. I had forgot my I D that day,
so I was like, I'm probably not even going to
get in, and I did and I sang. And what
was really intimidating about that process is that that at
the open call auditions, they'll have like three tables set
up with a producer at each table and just a
room full of people and who people who are auditioning.
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It's an audition in front of other people who are
auditioning while they're singing, So you'll have three people singing
at the same time with this room full of people
that are listening to mixing songs. Is like is it
like crying. I feel like that would just like give
me so much anxiety, especially when you're singing and like
somebody who's like belt and starts, how can you focus
on your song? I that that was like the most
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nerve wracking part. I was like, I don't even know
if I can. There's a room people waiting tradition while
three people are auditioning, are there? Are there? They're like
judges before the main judge that you have to get through. Yeah. Users,
So that's also like subjective because like what if your
three producers were like, oh, I don't I don't feel
if they only like three producers in the next spot
would have felt it right, it's so much magic, it
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really is. I was like, I feel so lucky to
have gotten the producer that I did, because I don't
know another Everyone sees everyone's gift like one man's trash
is right, right, you know you should have called me
to do that with you. You know, it's like true,
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so all the stars have to align and everything has
to like that's why, Yeah, I felt like it was
like I felt like it was really magical, like the
entire time because you have a great experience. I did.
I did I think. Um, the only thing that was
kind of like a crutch was getting you to the
social media stuff, like all the comments and the people
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are they night there's oh, there's both. There's people who
are so super nice and supportive, and then there's people
who they'll judge you from head to toe. And it's
just something I think, Um, a lot of people are
going through with this TikTok thing. Yeah, how do you
navigate that being in a public eye? Um gosh, they
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told me you're in top twenty. Oh no. Once we
got to top forty, the producer said, whatever you do,
do not read the comments, do not read them. And
I was like, I did the opposite. I read every
single one because I just want to know what people thought,
you know, and um, completely, I mean ruined me at
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My mom would come down every weekend and I would
just like lay in her lap and just cry like
I was just so bent out of shape about And
you could read like a thousand great comments and then
that one bad one about yourself would just completely tear
you up, Like it just sticks. It would stick to
my brain and I would just that's what all I
would think about. And but then I learned my lesson
(16:59):
and I was like, no more, no ma reading comments,
but I grew thicker skin. I'm kind of grateful for
it because now I'm like, anybody could say anything to
me and I'd be like, Okay, projection of your own
life that you're wearing in right, thing to do with
you right, because you have to be a certain kind
of miserable to go out and try to attack somebody
a complete stranger on online. So what is that like?
(17:20):
Sky rocking? Skyrocketing from fame from like a town of
five thousand. You've always been musical, You've always had this gift,
You've always been a performer, but now you're like you
have stardom around you. What is that? Like? How do
you transition from those very extreme opposites so quickly and
you don't have like a buffer period. They're not like, oh,
(17:41):
let's just work our way into this and gradually game
fans and like right, it was. There was a lot
of times that I would not post on social media
just because it would just be like, Okay, two hundred
and twenty sorry, two thousand people are going to see this,
and like, you know, it's it's just it's weird going
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from like just a small group of people you know
is gonna see this about you, and then to that
many people. But um, it was an adjustment because I
felt like right after Idol, I got to spend a
few months at home and then I moved and I
thought I was coming back for a couple of months,
but I ended up. I was like, no, I don't
want to and I got an apartment in Nashville and
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that's a big So now you're moving to Nashville right right,
And you don't probably know that many people, maybe some
people from the show only new my manager how you
just met her and well, um, there's a deal with
red Light and American Idol. Well you got the best one.
I know. I know I from the moment I met her,
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I was like, that's the one. And I enjoy working
with females. It's great to have really nice to females. Completely. Yeah,
she she gets it, she gets she's in the room.
So that's what we're talking nice. I'm just kidding it. Truly,
Rachel's best. She is. Um, Okay, so then you moved
to Nashville. Are you signed a big machine yet? When
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does the record deal happen? Because you don't automatically get
a record deal when you're top five from American Idol
or do you Um, no, they have to you know,
pick up get one right. Well, I was already signed
with nineteen. They ended up picking me up. No, nineteen, Um,
it's a label from Idol, So I'm signed with a
Big Machine and nineteen. So they ended up picking me
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up um after the show, and then they actually paid
for me to come to Nashville and be here for
a few months. And uh but I knew once those
three months for up that I would need to have
like a record deal Nashville to be able to afford
to be in Nashville, or publishing deal or you know,
(19:52):
to go get one Like how do you what do
you do? Go like knock on people's stores, Like how
do you go get a record deal? I mean, I
still I think what really started the buzz was I
started writing a lot, but different writers and UM made
those connections. And then once you know, people like publishing
people were UM, I guess my name was kind of
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circulating that way, and then Big Machine caught up on it.
But I will say how my whole record deal kick
started was I I had a meeting with Dan Huff
who is my producer, and actually Autumn House from Red
Light brought me over there and because she knows him,
and we had a meeting and we were just talking
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and I played him one song and he was like,
I want to produce see it. And I was like what.
And so that was December of twenty nineteen, and I
think he had a Christmas party with Jimmy Harnan, which
is the president of my label, me to He's so great,
(20:55):
He's so great. And then um, so he showed him
some of my music and then we had a meeting
in January, and um then that's when we were you know,
we didn't I didn't actually sign until August because the
pandemic it So I would like to ask people, what
is it like when you actually live your dreams. So
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many people have these big dreams and they just keep
them as dreams because dreams are, especially big dreams are
often hard to come true. You are living your dreams,
so what is that like? You have national exposure, people
are loving you, You're signed a major management, major record deal.
You performed with some superstars, like you were on the
(21:37):
radar of country music, which is what you've always wanted.
What does it feel like? Does it feel like it
felt in your dreams? It does Sometimes I think I
tell people have imposter syndrome because sometimes I'm like, really, yeah,
I'm like, is this really the life I'm living? Like
I cannot believe this? Like what like something magical is
going on, because like I've always seen it, prayed for it,
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I've always wished for it. Um, there's moments where I'll
be like, Lacey, stop and really like appreciate this moment
because I mean, look at what you're doing. And then
I'll just sit there and be like, thank you God,
because it's just something I always wanted, all the details
and the extra parts and the grind behind it. Though,
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did you know about any Because so many people are like,
you have this dream and it's all glamorous, right, talk
to me about the actual grind behind the dream, because
that's like behind Auzzi the Wizard of Oz when you
open the like, oh, there's this whole other world all
right time and right on all the time. You can
(22:39):
have a bad day and you can't see your best
because you're presenting yourself, which is a brand. It's interesting
when you are the brand. Oh I know, I'm still
getting to that. Right, Everyone who sees you expects you
to be your brand, right, so you can't be in
a bad mood. You can have a bad day, like
exactly what is that? One person right never forgets that
(23:01):
would be like, well, Lacey was so mean to me.
I know, pressure, isn't it? It really is. It's it's
a grind for sure, all of it, all the behind
the scenes it is. And I don't think I was prepared,
um mentally for how much you know, you would have
to be on And like I said, I'm pretty introverted naturally,
so um, having you know, to to talk and um
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and just do interviews and that's something that I was, Um,
I'm glad that. Um it's kind of getting me out
of my show. I'm glad born. Okay, So talk to
me about your mom. Talk to me about your relationship
with her. I love her so much. She had you
when she was seventeen and her yea, yeah, well her
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my dad got married for a year and then divorce.
But um, yeah it was just me and her and
your dad. Because I watched a lot of your videos,
he wasn't necessarily like super present in your childhood, right right, right? Yeah?
He Um, he's a Texas music artist, so he's what's
his name, Jody Booth? I know, I know he Um, yeah,
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he was playing gigs all around Texas when I was
growing up, so I mean he was he was grinding,
he was working hard, he was chasing his dream. So, um,
I don't knock him for that, but um, we did.
I I tell people that whenever I think I was fifteen,
he took me on a trip to Arkansas to record
because he had heard that I was, you know, getting
(24:28):
into the music thing, and I mean he had known it,
but he had heard that I started writing for my mom.
My mom called him and said she's been writing her
own songs, and so he was like, I want to
take you up to Arkansas and at another guy who
has a studio. And I don't even know where the
story is going. Tears are here. He was like, I
want you to come up to the studio and record
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a couple of songs that you've been writing. And I
was like okay. And it was a long drive. It
felt like a long drive, and I remember looking over
at him and being like, who is this guy? I
feel I feel like I know, but I don't know.
At the same time, and so we just started bonding
like that, bonding over feeling like who is this guy
that your dad? Right? Right? And then I mean the
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whole town knew he was because he was, you know,
famous in a small town, and uh, they'd be like,
where's your dad at this weekend? Or your Jody boost
daughter and and it just feels so weird sometimes. I
remember you didn't have much time with them, really no.
I mean he would come get me some holidays and
I would get to spend a little bit of time
with them, and we'd always bond over music. But um,
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I think that I tell people that that Arkansas trip
was like a turning fort point in a little bit
of a way, um, just because I got to know
him a little better and he got to know me
a little better. And uh, from then on we've been
building our relationship. Were you able to share your hearts
a lot more vulnerably because you could speak to each
other through music? Right? I know that sounds so cheap,
(25:51):
Like really, your hearts could speak through music a hundred percent.
You can write songs to each other and like show
each other songs like have you heard this song? You know? Yeah?
Definitely yeah, And then he would like help me, you know,
like I had taught myself. He taught me my first
three guitar chords. Then I taught myself you know, a
lot more via the internet, and then he would like
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help me with my technique. And I mean just yeah,
he was. He's been really great together. Oh yeah, Um, well,
before I went to Nashville, I'm only ever written by
myself and with him, But I wouldn't say we wrote together.
I would write a song and i'd take it to
him and he'd like, you know, and help you revise
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and edited. So you're writing school, yeah, pretty much. Yeah, definitely.
What do you love the most about your relationship with
your mom? Oh my gosh, I feel like I could
I can tell her anything and she, you know, no
matter what, she'll she'll always support me and love me.
And but she always tells me when I'm wrong, Like
she's very very blunt, and she's always been that way
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with me. She's just really really helpful, really helpful. It
really is, because I'm I'm always going to need that
for sure. M hm much. Okay, So talk to me
about your songs that you have on your collection. Shuffle
is your single and it's kind of describing you as
a person and like dating, talk to me about this,
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and should your boyfriend be worried? I feel like your
boyfriend's hanging in there. He's Oh, he's hanging in there.
He yeah, definitely. I was on my way to write
this song, and um, I wrote it with my buddy
Sam Ellis and Derek Sutherland, and I was on my
way to Sam's house and just driving, and I didn't
really have any ideas for the day. And um, I
don't remember if I just started thinking about my grandma
(27:40):
or the song stand By Your Man actually came on.
But for some reason, I started thinking about my grandma
and how she would, uh, we would have karaoke nights
on her back porch, and everybody in my family, my
mom's side, loves to sing karaoke, So your musical all
over the yah, my Dad's whole side of the family,
they're all musicians and uh um, so we would have
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karaoke parties and my grandma will get up there and
sing stand by Your Man by Tammy why it and
dedicated to my Grandpa. And she's so funny. She'd be like,
this one's for you, Frank. And because she's been a
saint standard. He was a wild one back in the day,
but she um, she picked up the kids and left
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and moved towns and he was like, okay, I gotta
straight enough, and then moved, moved and met her and
he's been an angel ever since. He's just the best person.
And um anyway, that's truly her song to him. And
I was thinking about it, and I was like, what
is my song and my relationship? And I just jokingly
said I'm somewhere between stand By Your Man and Goodbye Role.
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But I was like, this kind of harsh, so I
didn't say it. In the ride. I was like, I'm
I was trying to explain to them what I was thinking.
I was like, I'm somewhere between stand By Your Man
and and for for a minute they were like this
is this girl talking about and then Derek mich writer
kind of filled into blank. He was like an earl
had to die that song. And I was like, you
said it. I didn't have to say it, so I
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don't have to be the man hater. Oh I love
it so much, okay, and you have to tell me
about treasure. Where did that one come from? Because I'm
like obsessed with treasure. Oh my gosh. So I can't
get involve them. But treasure is like it's stuck in
my head. It can get stuck in your head. It's crazy. Um.
We had all eight songs, you know, ready to record
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and and then I had written Treasure like last minute
and Jimmy, it's always last night. I know, last minute,
it really is. And I wrote it with Jesse, Joe Dillon,
Laura Belts, and Jimmy Robbins terrible, terrible best right. I
think it was actually a day they were supposed to
write with Maren and then Marion had something come up,
so they were like, Lacy, do you want to I
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was like, yeah, okay, kill or combo right right? And um,
so I walked into the room and um, I had
written with all all of them before, but separately, never together,
and um, I think it was the first time Jimmy
wrote at his house, so this is like the first
song written at Jimmy's house and yeah, right, And so
(30:14):
I walked in and Laura had already been like, you know,
thinking about the idea, and she said, I see, would
you call yourself trash and a song? Yeah? Actually I was,
So we just Uh. We joked about it, and then
we we wrote it and I really, I really liked it.
Liked how sassy it was. I liked how fun it was.
(30:37):
And in the actual demo, the Donna Nana Donna Donna, No,
it was whistles. It was actually whistles. And I didn't
have as much of as the Latin vibe as it
has now. Um and Jimmy um harnin My Guy Big Machine.
He he was like, Lacy, you have Latin roots, he was,
(30:58):
And my mom's have Mexicans. Um a quarter, I tell everybody.
And he was like, why don't we make this really
like have a Latin vibe? And I love I loved it.
I love the idea, and so we really we really
went with it. Okay, So I have to know, what
is Katie Perry like in real life? Oh my gosh,
she's an angel, she really oh my gosh. Yes, Well,
(31:23):
I didn't really get to spend a whole bunch of
time with her on idol Um. I get to see her,
you know, after the show is behind the scenes a
little bit. But every time she would come, she would
come up to me, look me in the eye and
just tell me something that would like completely. I'd be
like thinking about it for days, like just gave me.
Oh yeah, She'd be like, well, I was still in
(31:44):
the show, so when she told me this, it really
related to the show. But she was like do what
you know, it needs to be done now and then
later on in your career you can do what you want.
And I was like, that's something to think about. And
you know, she would talk to me about my confidence
and um, just the fact that Katie Perry believed in
me and wanted me to win was just like the
(32:07):
craziest thing because I remember dancing around my bedroom too
hot and cold. You know, it's crazy. It's crazy when
all starts happening like this is so wild. I know,
he's the craziest person you've met, craziest he like what
was like on my jaws on the ground. I'm just
like trying to hold myself together. I can't believe I'm
being We're not crazy, but just like was the most
(32:30):
like got you going right, Oh gosh, it's between Katy
Perry and I would say, I don't know. I feel
like Miranda Lambert walked past me. I didn't even know
I was there, but walked past me. The c as
and I was like, my knees got weak, Like, oh my,
I love her so much. How does Katie Perry smell?
(32:50):
She's really good. I don't really remember, but she she's
she's beautiful like she I was never like super super
close to her, but old times, yeah, I think she
smelled good like you smell good. Sprayed for you alone
this morning, this was amazing. Thank you, Thank you. I
(33:11):
put on makeup for you. I haven't I really tried
to like give you my best. Thank you? Okay, So
what can we be looking forward to you doing in
the future? Where can we be finding me? Where are
you torn? What's going on? So I'm just doing a
bunch of radio shows. I think this week I'll be
in Charlotte, North Carolina, and Columbus, Ohio, and then um,
(33:34):
I have a bunch of those kind of lined up
all over the states. And then you've gotten used to
road life being gone all the time. No, I just
went on the road for like the first time last week,
and so I hadn't checked a bag for like a
two day trip. So I learned the hard way that
carry on And I'm like, but how am I supposed
to fit most frightday in there, I mean real here,
(33:56):
I know. So yeah, I'm kind of I feel like
I'm really going to get used to it this month
and next month. But um, I have a show. I
have a stagecoach next year. That's a big one. Yeah, yeah,
Coachella for country and music. I know, who are you
playing with? What big artist? Um, Carrie under You probably
(34:18):
be on her bus hanging out before chilling with his
and my fissurees break. I love babies, So that's given me. Okay,
so fine, that's awesome. Well, holy cow, you were just
crushing it and doing it. Tell me what you've learned
about life that you didn't know before this world one experience?
(34:41):
Like what gosh, what has like? What have you learned
about life, humanity, fame? What has like it clicked in
your brain? About all about I tell people this all
the time. The biggest lesson for me was getting out
of my small town. Even they're amazing. I love my
my hometown, but just getting out and getting to meet
other people and being around other culture is and it
(35:01):
really opened my mind and my heart to a lot
of things. And I think it's so important for people
to at least for a couple of months or just
travel meet other people that aren't from your home down
because it just really it changed my you know, a
way of thinking in a lot of ways. And UM
just really opened up my heart. And I've I've made
so many friends and connections since then, and UM, I'm
(35:24):
really grateful for the people I've met and tell me
about like your relationship with God, because I feel like
he is a very present. I'm gonna start crying. Good,
let it out. Gosh. I remember, um, after my very
first tryout in Houston, UM, getting in my car because
they had said they'll they'll call me back if I got,
you know, onto the next round. And I remember I
(35:46):
pulled into my parking spot at sam Houston where I
was going to school, and I just like put my
hands together and I just like prayed for like twenty minutes,
like God, like I really want this, this is what
I want to sorry my whole life. And I promised
I will be like sorry, I never cry. I love
(36:08):
to cry. If I don't cry every day, it's not
a good day, I know, right, I mean, I gotta
let it out. I was like, I'll promise I'll be
a light for you and just if this is the
path that you want me to take, please, you know,
just give me a sign, and like I really really
want it. And and then it just like happened all
like magically, and I just knew it was him. You know,
(36:29):
this is your mission, this is your purpose, This is
your outlet to shine for God. Right, this is your
talent that He gave you. This is like the moment
for you to have to enjoy this talent in life,
but also to use it for a higher purpose. So
that's a bigness of your really a higher purpose. Right,
And you know, you kind of get lost in it
sometimes and right, And I've I've looked back, especially lately,
(36:53):
and like I don't pray as much as I did
during those times, and you know, and sometimes I get
a little, you know, lost for what my purpose is.
And and just lately here lately, I've been remembering and
just feeling really grateful that I still have a relation,
a good relationship with God and um and that my mom,
you know, she prays with me every single day. Like
(37:14):
she'll call me and be like, okay, we have to
say our prayers and okay, she's the best. I love
your mom. I gonna cry about talking about your mom
like that's a good mama mama. Oh man, man, it's
just like I feel you on that. And it is
easy to get kind of lost in all of this
(37:34):
stuff because there's so much going on. There's so many
people involved with your career. Now it's so much more
than you're just your dream. It really is like a
lot of people's business, right, right, So it becomes more pressure,
and it becomes like sometimes you lose the that just
pure connection because that's all you had in the beginning, right,
That's all I had. It's so true. And I think
(37:55):
about the same thing with songwriting, like right, and with
these hits on writers and their pressure and like my single,
whereas before you just wrote, right, you just wrote what
you wanted to say, and um, now it's you know,
I took a three month break off of writing because
it was just it got to the point where I
was like, am I enjoying this still? You know, I've
been doing it so much. I didn't. I felt like
(38:17):
I was a little burnout on it, and I was
I wasn't writing, um and feeling that like magical butterfly
feeling afterwards, and I was like, I'm gonna take a break.
So I took the summer off and have my first
ride like a week or two ago, and it was
just I felt that those magical butterfly feelings all over again.
It was just great, And yeah, I needed that little break.
(38:37):
Good for you to listen to yourself, though, I feel
like that is such the key to like really staying
in your purpose, listening to your intuition. Does your intuition
guide you? Oh my gosh, yes, how does it speak
to you? I just it's just a feeling, and you know,
I talked to myself all the time, so it's I
feel like, did it stop you in your tracks? If
it's not supposed to be? If it's if it's wrong,
(38:58):
do you definitely nauseous? Are like weird? Like when you're
like when something's presenting itself in your life that isn't
the right path for you? Does that feel like? I
feel like it's just it's like a feeling in my body,
Like it's just kind of negative and doesn't this doesn't
need to happen. You need to really pause and think
about it. This is you know, this is the way
you should go, This is what you need to be doing.
(39:19):
And if it's not. What does it feel like when
it's right, Oh my gosh, magical, like just flows flows,
it's just easy. Yeah, it's not that what you're doing
is easy, because what you're doing is actually really hard,
like being an American idol and doing everything you're doing
it really hard, but it was it flowed easy. That's
how I go by it to Like my body now,
(39:41):
I'm so in tune with my body. My body like
yells at me. It makes me feel like nauseous or
like sick. Meditate. I need to. I need to meditate
more because but I just yeah, I feel like you're
When I first met your energy was just like I
was like a love this person. She's amazing. Thank you.
(40:02):
Well I feel that way about you. I feel something
with you, Lacy that is so and my word means nothing,
it doesn't matter, but just coming from me because here
you are sitting with me, I feel something that is
so special and different and like maybe it is your
connection and purity to God, like that's like guiding you
and that he's like really like in this walk with you,
but like it feels very soulful and like you are
(40:25):
just supposed to be doing this. You have something so
unique and special. Thank you so much, so good. Thank
You're just so good. You sound like an angel. Oh
my gosh, thank you. Okay, I want to wrap up
because I know you have other things to do, but like,
what is dreamy country, because like is that what you
call yourself? Dreamy country? Yeah, so I'm here for that.
Thank you. Oh they really did a great job. Was
(40:49):
very dreamy. Your racks of clothes and the things that
you put on, like absolutely on the floor dad, thank you. Yeah,
the purple dress. Did you see the purple dress? The
one that really got me. That was that thing that
was white and the feather. Yeah, I was like one
of my favorites. Couldn't take that home. But I could
not handle that. You're like coachure or I say that
(41:10):
word wrong coach or you know in the country, which
I know that was a good little mixture. But when
I first knowd to town at Um, I got asked
a lot what's your style of music? Like where, because
you know, writers want to know like where you're going.
You know, they don't want to just like help you
write a song that's completely not you. So they would say,
like what's your style of music? And what like what's
(41:31):
your genre in the country lane. And I just came
up with dreamy country because I felt like it fit.
And I know there's like dream pop out there, and
I listened to a bit of that and I really
like enjoyed it. I was like, I wonder I could
do something with the country with this, and and I
remember I told Nathan Chapman, my co writer, first, about
the dreamy country thing, and he was like, I completely
(41:53):
hear it, and he said kind of like a Lana
del Rey meets country music. And I was like, that
would be amazing, Yeah, that would so with some more
jobs though, right right next, Yeah, I feel like they're
pretty dreamy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And even like your style,
like your clothes, the way you sing, the way you
(42:14):
present like you are very dreamy country. It's like totally
thank you. That makes you feel good. Is that hard
to have to brand yourself or is it just natural?
Are you just following what feels natural. I felt like
I followed what felt natural, and I think that really
helped a lot with me getting my record label deal.
That was the first thing I told them. I was like,
I'm dreaming, this is what I am. I am dreaming country.
(42:37):
I didn't and they were they you could see they
were all kind of like intrigued, like, Okay, what is
dreamy country? And so I think that it's really helped me,
you know, in the Nashville to know who I was
before really I moved here. So true because especially if
you come off one of these shows and right, you
have so much talent, but you haven't necessarily had the
time to write around your or your style or your vibe.
(42:59):
Death then you're on this time frame because you know,
you want to seize the day of this opportunity, and
so you want to put music out. But a lot
of times artists, I feel like, don't necessarily know what
their sound is, so they start recording all these songs
that really aren't true to them this yep, and it
can create a little chaos and like how they feel
about their career definitely not a match. Chaos is the
(43:20):
exact word for it. And you know I kind of
went through that a little bit. Even though I called
myself Jamie Country, I would find myself writing a super
pop you know, not to when you're in the national
song but I know quickly that that doesn't fit. You know, yes,
you know you're knowing your sound. That's anything. Knowing who
you are, knowing what feels right to you, knowing you're
(43:40):
like how how you feel connected to your talent. That's
huge and that's really all you need because if you
just follow that, then like it's God leading you the
whole time. Definitely much easier than sometimes I'll be like
I'll write a song and be like where did that
come from? And then okay, um, okay, Well I have
loved having you on. Oh my god, I'd love being here,
(44:03):
so I'm obsessed. Don't worry, I'll keep it chill. But like,
I really love you. I think you're amazing. I love
your soul. I think you're stunningly beautiful, but you're even
more like just beautiful and so full on the inside
your music. Truly, I think you're just just a blessing
to this earth. Oh gosh, thank you. I'm happy to
(44:24):
happy in my life. This was the biggest blessing honestly
for this week for sure. Yeah. Okay, well thanks um
I and we'll we're gonna do like a little footage
later because you brought a guitar, so we're gonna have
to like that. Yeah. I was like, should I bring this? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes.
I always wrap up with leave your light, which is basically,
(44:46):
what do you want people to know? It's just super
open ended, anything anything that just comes to mind. I
feel like I've struggled with this back in, you know,
through idol before idol um. I want people to know
that they're worthy and that they're loved and that you know,
(45:06):
that's something that I've just come to realize. You know,
I'm like, do I deserve this? And then I'm like,
I am worthy. I feel like I am worthy of this,
and as long as I'm kind to others and good others,
I feel like, yeah, you're worthy and and I feel
like everybody needs to know that you're amazing. Have a temper? Ever?
Do you ever get mad? You're so pure and you're
the greatest. Thank you every day. No. You know, my
(45:31):
therapist told me they she's like to my elbows. This
is one thing that intrigued me. She was like, you
monks like they met all the time, and they you know,
they don't age as fast as the rest of the populations,
like even in like they've done like you know, research
(45:53):
on it. There's something their brain that doesn't age either.
It's crazy totally. I need a aren't meditating more? We
get so lost and all this stuff in life that
actually doesn't matter at all thoughts, it makes you in
a whirlwind tailspin, like you feel stressed out. You have
to get it done, but really like no one even
knows right that you're doing it besides your head. Who's
(46:16):
going crazy exactly. And I think meditating really helps and
it slows it down, like like not get wrapped up
in the immediate anxiety of worldly pressures completely. Yeah, I think, yeah,
me you, yes, Thank you so much for joining me.
Everyone having to checkout your music. If you're on tour
(46:37):
near anyone who's listening to podcast, you need to go watch.
You are just absolutely incredible and I am so honored
that you came on the podcast. Oh my gosh, I'm
honored to be here. Thank you, thank you. Okay, we
forgot one very very very important facts that we had
into this podcast, but we come back for your viewing
listening pleasure because manager Rachel's like, you didn't talk about Keith,
(47:02):
And I'm like, who's Keith What? Yeah, he's playing guitar
on Treasure. Uh yeah, I don't even know how I forgot.
I think I was just, yeah, everywhere did you get
to be with I haven't got to meet him yet,
but he so. Jimmy Harnan sent he used to work
with him back in his capital days. He tells the
(47:23):
story all the time. I know, right, he sent in
my music and and then uh, the next day he
said he got a text from Keith that said, yo, Jimmy.
He said, yo Keith, and he said, um. I think
he said something like she's got swagger, She's a real deal.
I'd love to be a part of this and anyway
I can. And I was just like, he texted me
(47:44):
that and told me while I was in Target shopping
and about fell out in the middle of ale. I
was like, why Keith Irban wants to play on a
song that's insane? What do you do with those feelings?
I don't even know. I remember I told my mom.
I called my mom and I was like, can you
believe this? Like, Keith Urban wants to be a part
of my record, like as a new artist like that?
(48:06):
I feel like that. Really he is a champion for
a new artist. He's got a very like giving art
towards one generation to come up and have opportunities. He does.
He's so supportive, and he's so freaking talented and sexy
and so attracted to Nicole Kidman. Everything she plays and like,
(48:27):
how are you actually on this earth? You're so beyond
know her hair's everything, She's dreaming, the way that she
acts in like these roles, and like how are you
a human? Keith? And and she's always like swinging and
when he's performing, I'm like, okay, I saw a card
at this little boutique shop and it had a picture
(48:48):
of Nicole Kidman on it and said are you Kidman me?
And I was like, this is gonna be my thank you,
not to Keith. You have to do that. I know
I have to do it, but I have to do it.
To do that made for this moment for sure, for sure. Okay,
well that was just the last whole thing that we
had to mention, so by for real, by okay, this
is really something we have forgotten to talk about. Charles.
(49:10):
I'm like, who the heck is Charles, Charles Kelly. Charles
Kelly is also on your collection? He is amazing. I
remember seeing him in two thousand and thirteen. I went
to the Houston Life Sock Show and Roudio and got
to watch him and Lady A perform and I was
just like so inspired. And then I gets right with
(49:30):
him like a year ago and crazy, what broken heart
still beats? And he wrote that with you, Yes, Yes,
and he sings it with you. Yes. He's so sweet,
I know, totally living all your teams, like with all
the best people. I feel so lucky. I feel so
lucky to have these people like on board on my
very first project to release. Uh, it's like a weird feeling.
(49:54):
But just to know that they like support me, they
believe in me that much to put their name, you know,
out there on my the project is just insane. He's going,
this is going all the way. Lacy. Yeah, I got
in on this interview before. You don't have time for me.
This is really fun. Charles mkeith, I love you. Are
we thinking anyone else? Is Katie Perry on the Cluction? Okay?
(50:18):
It's line al Ritchie okay? And Luke Bryan. I'm surprised
Luke didn't do something. Oh my gosh, that all happens.
Yeah maybe I hope Okay, alright, bye for real bye
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Caroline Hobby
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