June 17, 2024 • 46 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
At carl Line. She's a queen and talking, so she's
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No one can do we quiet car Line is sounding Caroline.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
What's up you guys?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
We have had so much fun with this bonus episode
of burning Questions.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
This year that we thought it's time to do a.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Mashup of some of the hottest burning questions that we've had.
So buckle up and get ready to laugh, to maybe
cry and cringe at some of this year's most scorching
burning questions.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Here's a little recap.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Enjoy.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Okay, we are back with ray Lynn and we are
doing a bonus episode of Call Caroline where Call Caroline
listeners are calling in with their burning questions.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Are you ready to go? You're ready to get after this?
Speaker 5 (01:11):
I'm ready?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And or do we get to be like therapists like online? Yeah, okay,
I'm ready, which.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You actually could be a great therapist because you have
so much wisdom. If you haven't heard that the Monday's episode,
listen to it because Raylyn drops some wisdom on life.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
We try you do.
Speaker 7 (01:26):
Okay, Okay, let's see what we got.
Speaker 8 (01:29):
We got, Hi, Caroline, this is Katie, My question is,
what would you say is a habit or a little
tick that your husband has that gets on your nerves
and how do you handle that?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
And then secondly, what would he say about you and
your annoying tick and how do you try to manage
that as well?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Thanks? Thanks?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I mean that's marriage, one on one.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
You're gonnannoy them? You go first?
Speaker 7 (02:01):
No, no, no, you do because Josh is perfect.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Josh's like an angel.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Josh is perfect. I would say, I don't think it's annoying.
I just like I feel like he doesn't think that
I'm funny.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
He doesn't think you're funny.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I'm funny, but like he does think I'm funny, but
he is a We have very different like we're our
humor is different.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
But are you trying to make him laugh all the time?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yes, I'm always trying to make him laugh and he's
not laughing, and but then it makes me laugh because
he doesn't laugh. And like, especially like when my best
friend to me he's over, We're always just annoying him,
which I think is so funny. But he acts like
he's annoyed. But don't you love this about guys? They
act like they annoyed, but they actually love it. Like
he loves like girl talk like he does, Oh, he
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loves go He's like, so he acts like he doesn't
want to know what's going on. But then the other
room we're talking, He's like, so what are we talking about? Like,
my favorite thing that Kaylee Dickerson said is I think.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
We were over. You were there too.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
We were over at Canaan Smith's is years ago, oh,
at a birthday birthday party.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
And then he comes over, he goes, what are we drinking? Girlies?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
But probably my annoying tick if he Russell said that,
No Kaylee, Josh said that to Kaylee and me, what
are we drinking girlies?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
And he thought that she thought it was so funny.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
My I already know one thing about myself, and I'm actually,
this is a bad thing, but it's not. It's not bad,
but like I process things in my head, and so
I feel like he's already gonna know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
So if I'm like talking about.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
The moon landing, right, like the moon landing just like
something wild, right, I'll be.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Like, but has someone landed on the moon lately?
Speaker 5 (03:33):
No? And I don't know if I believe in it.
But so anyway, flat earth Earth, I don't know if
you're flat earth? Oh my god, I don't.
Speaker 9 (03:39):
Even know what?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, I but like I could, I process things in
my head. So Josh will be like, you know, will
we talk about something? And then I'll be thinking of
something else and I'll just say, what do you think
about this?
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Or not?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Like, oh, can you believe that He's like, what are
you actually talking about?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Probably that's one of tho ticks probab probably have so
many of them.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
But does he do anything though? Because like, okay, especially
like when you have a kid, you.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Start talking about Michael.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Well, Michael is great, Michael's the best.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
He's the best. But I mean when you're married to
someone for ten years almost and you have a kid.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Like and also to like I'm kind of messy. Josh
is very clean.
Speaker 7 (04:12):
Oh okay, see that would drive me nuts.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I'm super clean, Like I'm clean, but I'm not, like
I just like my sink doesn't have to be clean.
The common areas have to be clean, like the living room,
that's fair, kitchen like stuff like that. But like, and
it's probably the military part of Josh too, Like everything
has to be in it the spot, which is great.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Okay, Well, because like there's this thing called the h H.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Have you heard of the HH?
Speaker 7 (04:35):
It's the husband hatred. It happens when you have a baby.
Did you ever have that?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You never got the HH? Like you never hated Josh?
Like did he always like because like you.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Know, like when you have a baby, I sometimes feel
like men just like don't know what to do.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
But Josh didn't.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
He did, he did.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
I knew he was one of those he did did.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
He just do all the funniest thing that he did.
And I'll never forget when.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
I don't know, Michael, Okay, sometimes you're like, no, I
get it.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You don't know how to do anything with this baby.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It was really funny. One thing that Josh should say,
he goes, I just don't know what to do. I
just don't have a boob. If I had a boob,
I would help, but I don't have titties. Like it
was just like funny, like when you're nursing, it's like
he's like and it felt because the only one. He
felt very hopeless. But Josh was so great. He would
clean my the breast pump, he would do the stuff.
He'd always have it ready for me to pump in
them on my like Josh was like, no complaints.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
He was pretty epic.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So Josh said he loved his thing is he never
wanted Daisy to cry, obviously, so he'd blow dry her
with a blow dryer so that she wouldn't cry. And
I'll never forget when Tyler Hyber came over Tyler and
Haley to come visit Daisy and Daisy like I was
blow I was changing his diaper and like we're used to.
I'm obviously used to changing her diaper, and Daisy and
Josh blow drying her because I've seen this. But the
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average person that comes over, they were like, what the
hell is Josh doing? Like he goes, are you blow
drying your baby right now? And he goes, she doesn't cry.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
She was crying with me. And then he's like, it's
actually pretty genius. But it was funny. We ended up
having the PEDIATRICI.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
At first, I just say, okay, we have to stop
with the blow dryers.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
So funny, but I feel like sometimes guys are just
not aware.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I feel like if I was going to say something
that annoyed me, it's like just because Michael is so
great and so sweet, and Michael's such a good.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Husband, father, all of it.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
But it's like, I just feel like he's such a dude,
Like Michael is a guy, is a guy is a guy.
He grew up with four brothers, he's been in a band,
he's one of four brothers.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Josh is a dude. But also he had four sisters. Okay,
he's got an unfair advantage.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
That's a super unfair advantage.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Okay, And ladies, just let you know, if you marry
someone who has sisters, they are going to understand a
female life. Michael grew up with three rowdy brothers. He's
in a band with three other guys his whole life.
He's been around dudes forever.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
And he had daughter.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah that God's saying, I got a level the playing
field here, you know. And now he's in Sunny is
like girl girl. I mean she's a venture girl, but
like she's girly. So he's just like the girl world
is Like.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
He's learning it with me, you know, because he didn't.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Grow up in it, but Josh grob in it, so
he knows what girls need.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So what's your annoying tick about Michael gonna answer the question,
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
My noise, Well, he's so great and he's such a
I mean.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Disposition our husbands.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I don't want Michael to be like I can't believe
you're talking blast, you know. I think sometimes he just
doesn't know to look for certain details that I need done.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
But guys forget details. That's why, that's why they need
a woman like that. I know. It's like, and that's
the thing is I want to feel needed.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
So like I can't get mad if Josh forgets a
sound machine for a nap, like or forget to sleep
like you know, because of course he did, like of
course he didn't like forgot the bottle like you know,
like he's not so but it makes you feel needed.
But also I get what you're saying. But that's also
being married to the dude.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I know well, and it's just like you know, I
feel like for me, I probably didn't really have many
things that annoyed me too much until Sonny was born.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Because it's like.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
You notice everything you're doing, you're packing, you like, if
you're you know what she needs to wear, you know
what she needs to pack, you know what she needs
to eat, you know, and she needs to change her diver,
you know, and she needs to be fed, you know,
getting your school in line, getting your appointments with their
doctor in line. It's like Michael's there to help, but like,
for some reason, women just do all that.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Why do women just do all that on the resume?
That's true.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I think that That's probably what I got annoyed, is like, man,
my workload just got which I love this work.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
Yeah, I love them on workload, but I'm like.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Why do you not?
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Why do I just Why did the download hit me
and it didn't hit you?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Is that just it?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
I think? And we feel needed though.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
I mean I know I'm needed.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
I know, yeah, I know I needed. I know I needed, Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
That's why we got a puppy for Sonny for Christmas.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
But I said to Michael and Sonny, I said, I
am not gonna imprint with this dog.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Oh it's yours.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
No, I am not gonna imprint with this dog because
I will get in there and I will love this dog.
I will kiss this dog, I will nurture this dog.
I will spoon see this dog.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I'm gonna snuggle this dog, and then this dog is
gonna only want to be with me, and I was like,
that's not y'all dog.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
This is y'all's dog.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So I like, I keep the dog alive.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
But I have stood back.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I didn't like love it extra. I'm like, girl, you're
gonna survive.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
This is your thing, this is your dog and it
imprinted with sunny or she slings that thing over her
shoulder talk.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
She's so funny, you're tough.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, so oh, I think that just like him not
being able to like know what isn't my running to
do list and just like take some of it would
be my annoyed saying you don't.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Know my Costco list. Your Costco Gurley thing cracked me up.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I don't know how that thing popped off. It was
hilarious Costco Gurley. I'm a Costco Girley. I was like,
of course I buy extra Televi for my friends were
too cheap to buy.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
I'm a Costco Girlly. I was just meaning so stupid.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Raylan made a video on her Instagram and TikTok. I
don't know wherever it is, but it's like Costco Gurley.
That thing that went viral.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Yeah, it was hilarious.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
Did Costco give you a free membership, but they should,
they should.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah it was great.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Yeah, you'd be a great spokesperson Costco anyway. So you know,
I think just like accepting the fact.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
And it's like you said earlier in our interview that
we talked about our long form interview on Monday, it's like,
you can't get annoyed by every little thing because when
you live with.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Some one, and especially yeah, there's seasons.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
There's seasons that are intense in your little head.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Football kind of annoys me, just like, why is everything
the game from He's a football You're not even like
you don't even have a team, you have a player,
you like players, and now fantasy messes up everything.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
He's one of those Michael's not that see like, and I.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Don't mind football.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I love football, but it's like, why can't we just
have a team and that's what we watch every week?
But no, now there's players, and you gotta do your players,
have gotta do goods, you gotta watch your players play
every time.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
I don't know football because of Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Yeah, god, I know it's so annoying.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I'm so annoying.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
I know. I love it though, I like seeing her
with a guy like that. Though it's cool. I like
that She's like she.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Got pursued too, because I mean, it'd be very hard
to pursue Taylor Swift.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Yeah, it's like, how do you like, where do you start?
Speaker 10 (10:47):
But he he just did, And I'm like, you're not
gonna get unless you try it.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Hey, and he got it. He did.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
We'll see what how it goes. But I've enjoyed watching it.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Thank you very I think it'd be super cute.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
I think it'd be great. It see like a royal wedding.
Everyone in the world's want to say, of course, I know.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, So anyway, I think that there's season.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
How the big revolving door of our whole conversation based
off what are we get annoyed by by our husbands?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I know, right, But you know what, at the end
of the day, I'm like, because sometimes when I'm in
the midst of my annoyance, especially like when Sunny was
super young and like your postpartum, your bodies whack, your
emotions are insane, You're crying about everything, and then this
husband doesn't have a boob and the baby just wants you,
and you got this whole list of things to do,
and I'm literally like, what in the world, Like you're
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losing your mind. I mean I did for a little,
but it's the most love you've ever felt. But then
you're also like, are you like is everybodykay?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Are you like?
Speaker 7 (11:37):
But are you like in this with me?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Because like I feel like they are.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
They are, but they just don't know what to do.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And then you get through it, and then you go
through seasons and you grow.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
It's just like stick it out.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Like you said, if you've got a good person and
a good partner, you married him for a reason.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Yeah, you're married to a good person.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
You're always gonna work it out, and there's gonna be
seasons where like sometimes I feel like he's annoying me,
but like she's asking, Katy's asking, like what do you do?
I am annoying because I'm a little I think controlling,
probably absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But I'm like, you should, Yeah, you should do this
way because it's gonna work out better, and this is
the plan I need this to have.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So I think being married to someone is being with
someone all the time. I mean, yeah, it's just there's
gonna be time.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Oh my gosh. Absolutely, except for Josh.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You don't never get the h h. You never got
the h H.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
I never hated my husband.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
That's not real hate.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
It's just annoyance.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, just low annoying.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Yeah, Okay, okay, we're gonna do one more question and listen.
Michael and Josh, we love you so much.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Absolutely, there's no no farm, no.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Harm, no foul, no harm, no foul. I mean, if
he got on here, he would have he would probably
they say, we're perfectly.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
What would Josh say about.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
You, He's probably just saying wild, that's why I like you.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, Michae would probably say I'm a little bit controlling,
But I'm not controlling.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I just think really the thing about me is like
if we went on this Christmas bar crawl when I
planned a drink, I get schmisted and he like, he's
the best husband.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Though, he just carries me back into the house. He's
like I had to tell the uber driver, like, I
swear this is my wife. I'll show you the photos.
I'm not taking her.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
So you go hard.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
I go hard on the payment, not very much. But
what I do when you do, you're let But do
you have the next question.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Okay, okay, we're ready for the next question.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Here we go.
Speaker 11 (13:15):
Hey, Caroline, I could use a little bit of advice.
So me and my fiance are planning our wedding for
later this year, and oh my gosh, it is so
expensive to plan a wedding, even a simple one.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Hello.
Speaker 11 (13:28):
So we have come back that conclusion that we want
this to be a child free wedding, and we're really
nervous that that's going to cause some controversy. So I
just wanted to get your advice on the best way
for us to break it to people that they need
to leave their kids at home.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I think the best way to break it to people
to leave kids at home is listen, does she have
Obviously the girl probably doesn't have kids, but that's okay.
Just say hey, I want I want you guys to
have a good time.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
I want you to have a date night. Like it's
an advance enough for you to get a sitter. We're
doing child free.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That way, everybody can truly enjoy themselves and not have
the stress of.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Bringing their children.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I think when you come from that aspect, because everybody
wants to like have a break, you know what I mean,
and like not be on, you know, and like we're
Daisy is gonna be in a wedding, a flower girls.
She's be the flower girl. She's the only kid at
the wedding. But then she's gonna go home and go
to bed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10 (14:29):
Girl, Mom's got to MoMA's got to get an Uberam
just kidding, No, But I'm just saying, like, I don't
think it's bad if you come from that aspect of Like,
I don't think that that's heartless.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
And I think people just I think it all depends
on the people that you're inviting. But I don't think.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
It's Honestly, I think parents are looking for a hard
no sometimes not to bring their kids because.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Because they feel guilty, Like I know I would feel guilty,
Oh should I bring Daisy?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
There's gonna be family or whatever. But if there's a
hard no, don't you just.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Kind of if Sonny wants to go everywhere, and like
how you're a dating I want to bring Sonny everywhere.
But then like when you do have like the hard no,
it's just gonna be appearents, like because how often do
you get a date night?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, you know That's what I'm saying I think if
you stretch up, and I think if you approach it
in that way.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
You're gonna be fine. Girl.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, agreed, that's what you do. Totally agreed, And honestly,
just think about it. You're kind of doing them a
favor because they might not have done it for themselves.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
It's your damn day.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
If you don't want kids there, you don't have to
have kids there.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
I want you to dress like a unicorn. Okay, you
have to dress it is your damn day. That's another thing.
Take that back, take it back.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Okay, Well, there you go. All the all the problems
of the world solved.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Thank you guys for tuning in to Caroline and Ray
this bonus ever episode of Call Caroline and Ray all
your burning questions answered.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I'm so excited to be back on a bonus episode
of Call Caroline with Kayleie Dickerson where we answer your
burning questions.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
I cannot wait.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
You ready to burn? I'm rented up?
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Ready burn it up there. Okay, let's see what we got.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Hi, girls.
Speaker 12 (16:15):
In a recent discussion with some married friends over dinner,
the topic came up of what is the average amount
of a married couple to have sex a week, wondering
what you both think about this?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Do you want to go first?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I just love this because you and I in the
first podcast we were like champs, and I want to
know if you're still this is actually a great question
because we were like, yeah, we have sex every day,
every day.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
And now I'm thinking, like, whoa, that was a lot
for me.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Are you still keeping that?
Speaker 13 (16:48):
I actually thought about this this morning getting ready to
see you. I was like, I feel like we need
to readdress this. I'm so glad we're going to readdress
because yeah, we'd been married for what four years? Three
no kids, and that was a goal of mine because
the goal it was a goal.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Oh for sure, every single day it was a goal.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Wait, it was a goal.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
You're like, we're gonna have sex every day?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Oh yeah, tell me what the goal was, Like, why
was that the goal because you just knew that would
make the marriage?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Well?
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Or because you couldn't get enough of that burn and
record Russell Dickerson.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Yes, he was like a hot dad before he was
a hot dad.
Speaker 13 (17:21):
I I know, obviously, but also I feel like that
was one of the things I watched I didn't really
see in my parents marriage was like passion for each other,
and so I they loved each other and they're still
married like fifty five years, but they had me at
forty two, So like, obviously all these things are at play, right,
(17:41):
And I was like, if I don't prioritize this now,
how am I going to prioritize it when I have kids?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
God, you're always on it.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
You knew you see you You're I'm an observer.
Speaker 13 (17:51):
I'm the youngest of six kids, so like my whole
life was watching everyone live and be like yes, no, yes, no,
like that don't want to do that?
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (18:00):
So that really worked in your favorite Yeah, I really did.
Speaker 13 (18:02):
I'd a major advantage, honestly, And so I would look
at other marriages. And what's funny is one of my
best friend's parents they are obsessed with each other so cute.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
I look up to them so much.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
And if they're older, they're older, yeah, but she's the oldest.
Speaker 13 (18:15):
So they are younger parents than my They're like twenty
years younger than my parents.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
And like she would be like.
Speaker 13 (18:22):
When she was in high school, my friend was in
high school, her mom would be like, honey, I'm drawing
the bath, like with all the friends over and like,
no shame in their game? Was it friend embarrassed? No,
I mean maybe a little, but she was so used
to it. They're so fun and like funny. I probably
in high school would have been mortified if the parents
someone's parents said that, but like as someone who I
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didn't see that with my parents, I always admired it.
And but I, you know what's so funny is I
would think, like, what makes couples great together?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (18:52):
And I thought they laugh at each other and that
was like a correlation i'd made. Come to find out later,
I was reading this marriage book and it was talking
about sex and the more sex you have, the funnier
you find each other.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Really, so I tell you why that is.
Speaker 13 (19:05):
I have no idea box comfortable or connected all of it,
all of it, And I was like, oh, how interesting.
I saw the fruit and I recognized that before I
knew what the root was, that they were connecting. And
for me personally, I tend to stuff things like I
don't want to deal with a feeling or emotional like ignore.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
I'll like ignore it, don't make a big deal.
Speaker 13 (19:27):
And I can't obviously be intimate with my husband if
I can't be intimate with my thoughts and emotions.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Oh look you there, Kaylee Dickerson. Again, you are so wise.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
So I this was something I kind of put in
place for myself.
Speaker 13 (19:40):
Was like, okay, well we're going to be intimate that
way later, so I better talk about it now. I
better say like, hey, that really hurt my feelings or
hey I'm feeling like distant or I haven't had enough
time with you, or I have to say it.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
So you wouldn't have spoken up before. That was not natural.
It was hard for me to do.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, so you're like, okay, I'm gonna because we're going
to be intimate.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
I want to be intimate across the board.
Speaker 13 (20:03):
Yeah, so anyway, I'll have to say, it's not every
single day anymore.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
We have kids.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I know we're tired. Uh, but I love it. That
was a goal though, I love it.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
Yeah, it was my goal. It was totally my goal.
I mean, and you won that goal for years, for years.
I mean, I still it still.
Speaker 13 (20:16):
Wasn't every single day, every single week like obviously, but
if you aimed for every day, it was probably like
at least five times. And now I'd say we're more
in the four four department three four department.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Four department A week we tried with a baby that's
four months old.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Kaylee, you are killing the game. Maybe no, I mean
obviously postpartum. Yeah, you gotta give yourself a break, right, you.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Gotta hold two months?
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Yeah, so I'd.
Speaker 13 (20:41):
Say those first like few months, probably more like one
to two.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
Yeah, and then we try to up it. But I
don't know. This week we were real tight. We probably
was probably only twice last week.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Okay, So like win because like we since we're talking
about sex, we have to like no pun intended, slip
it in sometimes, right, because like Sonny sleeps in the
bed with us years ago, but I love it.
Speaker 13 (21:06):
No, Caroline know this that I slept in my parents' bed. Yeah,
but because of that, you.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Have to find other times.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Okay, So do y'all are y'all nighttime people?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
In the end?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Are you traditional in the bed at night when the
kids are asleep?
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 13 (21:21):
Or a nap time, love a good nap time. Yeah,
that's more so. That's an easy with kids because by
the end of the night, I'm so tired, and I
try to coordinate that they at least overlap at the
one o'clock.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Nap so you can have Yeah, how much time you need, not.
Speaker 13 (21:34):
A time, but hey, mmy sleeps for like three hours,
so I'm not saying it's three hours.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
But like we got we have.
Speaker 13 (21:41):
Some freedom there, like, and we're not as tired as
we are.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Actually at yesterday, we were hanging out and Sonny was
watching cartoons upstairs, and I was talking to Michael in
his office and he.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
Was like, you're quick.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
You really fast. I'm like, I mean, and I was like,
you gotta, it's gonna be fat fast.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I mean, I'm like, I'm talking like five minutes or
under fast. It's like, okay, but you have to make
this happen fast and then come to find out right
towards the moment, said He's like, mom, I'm.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Like, go go, go.
Speaker 13 (22:11):
Right towards the moment, but I'm like, just get real
with Caroline.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Hobby, everybody, you know, people need to know about how
you get it in Okay, I'm not trying to have
all these sexual puns doing it, but it's happening because
it's important.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You got it.
Speaker 13 (22:27):
It's so important, it's so so so important because if.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
That goes, it really can That's the beginning of the
downward slide.
Speaker 13 (22:33):
Yeah, And I think if anyone's really honest with themselves.
When there's an one of my friends she says this,
She goes, I need an emotional orgasm before I can
have a real one.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Mmmm.
Speaker 13 (22:43):
So she has they have this, like she needs to
have a heart to heart conversation and like not even
a big deep something, but just a hey.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
How was your day? What are you worried about right now?
Speaker 13 (22:54):
Like just a connectedness emotionally, And that makes all the
difference too. And I think it's it's cyclical, like the
more you're having sex, the more because because that hormone
that's released when you breastfeed is released, men release it.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
After they have sex fact fun fact.
Speaker 13 (23:12):
And so they form a bond in all of that.
So if you're looking for him to be mushy and
all that there, it depends on the guy.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
I'm like imaginings some like not nice guy who's not
mushy afterwards.
Speaker 13 (23:26):
But if you marry a good one, it does form
some bonding and then they're more likely to be vulnerable
and open and and then you are. Because it's just cyclical,
it feeds, it feeds itself, and if.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
You don't have that intimacy your relationship.
Speaker 13 (23:43):
Starts to get a little Yeah, we get we get more,
we misunderstand each other, Yeah, we miss each other. It's yeah, yeah,
you feel less on the same page. And I'm like,
why do I feel like this? Oh, because it's been
a couple of days.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, a couple of days.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Win, a couple of days. I'm like Michael, and I
will say, Okay, So to get back to the question,
I say, we are like at it two times a week.
Speaker 13 (24:06):
Okay, Okay, there's many weeks that it's been like that
in the last several months.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
If we were four times a week, I would be like,
we're killing killing the game, it feels, do you okay.
Speaker 13 (24:16):
I also feel like there's weeks that it's like two
times a week for like two weeks, and then there's
a week that it's like four yeah, yeah, yeah, because
it is it's the more you have, the more you
crave it. It's just it's it feeds itself.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I'll just keep saying that, and that's why it is important,
Like I do believe just to like bring it back
to like not just to be funny about sex and stuff,
but like it is a huge part of a relationship. Yeah,
if you're, in my personal opinion and observation of couples
and myself, if you're not having a healthy sexual relationship
(24:50):
weekly and like feeling that emotional intimacy and physical intimacy,
it's going to start sliding.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I feel like that's how it starts to slip.
Speaker 13 (24:58):
I will say also with the caveat of like we
weren't doing that dating personally. Oh yeah, So I actually
think it protected me in a lot of ways and
our relationship because we actually genuinely were obsessed with being
with each other that I knew he was that was
all going to be great.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
You know, I knew I was already going.
Speaker 13 (25:20):
There was no need to test drive, Like I was like,
this is We're gonna be fine.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
What if it would have been bad?
Speaker 5 (25:24):
It was.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
It wasn't gonna be bad.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
It was good.
Speaker 13 (25:26):
Yeah, there's chemistry, like you have chemistry, and there was chemistry.
But I do think that was one of the reasons
that we are still obsessed with hanging out with each
other and everyone's like, how do I get what y'all have?
And I really do think that was a huge piece
of it because and why I know, he's such a
good man and all these things, like he honored me
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for like two and a half years, you know, and
protected me, so that now on this side, I'm like,
there's no way he would do anything different. And we
built such a solid foundation of just being obsessed with
each other, and so then you add in the extra
and then it's just pretty great.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Okay, So what was your wedding night?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Like awesome?
Speaker 7 (26:09):
It was actually it was like I really was, no, like, no,
it was it was everything you could have dreamed of,
everything I dreamed of anymore. Seriously dead serious.
Speaker 13 (26:17):
That's like, which is crazy? That is like it is
that's not everybody's story. Were you nervous because I mean
this is two and a half years ago, held up?
Speaker 7 (26:24):
No, I was just so excited. Like it's so funny.
Speaker 13 (26:27):
His contact photo in my phone is still like a
picture a selfie we took on the way to the
hotel after our after our wedding, and like the excitement
is so like palpable, Like when you look at this picture,
it's so cute.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
It's so cute. I mean that is Yeah, it has
to be one of the most thrilling moments of your life.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Yeah, it really was. And our honeymoon. What a blast?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Were you all just naked the whole time?
Speaker 13 (26:48):
Yeah, pretty much, and like four times a day or
like I mean, yeah, yeah, we tried.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
That was a little bit much. One of those days,
I was like, that's too much. We need we need
to chill. Like I'm actually I'm sore.
Speaker 13 (27:00):
Yeah, I'm like if you yeah, yes, it's like if
you don't, if you don't, like all you really have
to look forward to being married is like paying taxes together.
And so I was like, I really want to like
have something to look forward to, and so like we
moved in together after that, and it was truly just
like this newlywed happy bubble.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
And I don't know that it's popped, you know, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
A little bit.
Speaker 13 (27:23):
Kids pop it a little bit, but in the best way,
you know. I don't want to make it seem like
the kids they're so I would never change a single thing.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
But because now you get to love Russell in a
whole new way, yeah, and see the kids and him
seeing be I would do that the exact.
Speaker 13 (27:36):
Same way every single time if I had a choice,
which I don't, I'm not going to relive my life.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
But right I highly recommend it.
Speaker 13 (27:44):
But I would say the reason I say all that is,
you know, I think in a dating relationship, if you're
actively having sex that much, it's actually detrimental because you're
not getting to know the person exactly. And and anyone, I'm like,
that's that's like saying everyone has a sex drive, right that.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
I always say it's like dating someone because you both
like lunch.
Speaker 13 (28:04):
It's like, well, yeah, obviously we all like lunch, but
it doesn't mean that you are compatible. And I think
that can be hidden when you have sex too early.
I think it can hide a lot. My love converts
a multitude of sins, and I feel like sex conceals
sin because.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
As soon as you have it, especially as a female,
you're emotionally attached, and so.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
Are they, whether they tell you or not, or.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
They start running away, and then you've given yourself and
you're like, oh my gosh, or yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
I think it's really practical. Honestly, it's like and you
learn self control.
Speaker 13 (28:37):
So in the same way Russell and I had self
control towards each other, we have self control married.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Like, it doesn't even cross my mind.
Speaker 13 (28:45):
I'm like, he said no to me for two and
a half years, he's not going to say yes to
some random person on the fly, Like that's just never,
that's not gonna happen. And so I think you need
to learn to flex that muscle one way or another.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
And I think dating trains you to do it.
Speaker 13 (28:59):
And then I mean, I'm not here to be like
ultra religious on the matter, Like I love people who've
lived together slepty of whatever, like you do you, But
I think this is there's a reason. I feel like
God instills that in us, and like try he tries
to protect us.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
I think what we said before is go back to
the podcast.
Speaker 13 (29:19):
I think it can really hurt you, and you can
get emotionally attached to someone that you're not supposed to.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Be with and maybe end up with someone that you're
not supposed to be with.
Speaker 13 (29:27):
Yeah, honestly, And I'm like, this is the most important
decision of your life. Like I wanted to be as
soberminded in that decision as possible. I didn't want it
clouded by well, we have great chemistry or this or that.
And I just think a lot I've watched it happen
sadly that a lot of personality and a lot of
hidden things are hidden and stay hidden because you can
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just bury it with.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Your physical connection. And it takes a minute to get
to know someone fully.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, and you've got to be willing to like kind
of ride out a period of time, because I've always said, like,
the first eight months, I feel.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Like you just got love goggles on.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yes, you can't.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
See anything, but how amazing this person is.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
You can't believe you have this connection.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
They're so cute, all the things they do, You're like,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
And then come about eight months to a year.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
That's why you're like, ooh, it's just getting real. And
do we want to stick this out?
Speaker 14 (30:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (30:20):
Yeah, totally. And I think I had a note when
Rus and I got married. Nothing surprised me, nothing. I
was like, I knew you were like this, you knew
I'm like this.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Here we are, and that's why you're so grounded and
you have such a strong foundation.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
I really, I really think that.
Speaker 13 (30:35):
Yeah, And I'm always hesitant to share it. I don't
even actually know if I've ever shared it in this
like great detail, because like you don't want people to
feel judged by it or like feel like anything other
than I just want people to build right And I
think that really helped us build right.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I love that, okay.
Speaker 13 (30:55):
And now, hey, on the other side, it's a party,
you know. It's like on the other side, you're like, yeah,
let's have sex every day. That's why we were like
two and a half years. That's why when he was like, well,
I'm not getting married tilling forty, I was like, well,
I'm not a nun, my guy, so find someone else.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
They ain't gonna hit, ain't gonna be me.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Kay I love you, Okay. So to answer the question,
have sex as much as possible?
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Yeah, really honestly, have.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
It all the time. Yeah, but wait for that commitment.
Speaker 13 (31:22):
Yeah right, wait for a safe Yeah, a safe place.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Well, if that's not a burning question, I don't know
what is.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
So thank you Kaylee Dickerson for joining me on my
podcast This is I feel like we had a combo
of get real and coffee with Kaylee.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
It was an honor, it was in a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
It was so much fun. Thanks for going all the
way with me.
Speaker 13 (31:42):
Hey, with the distance, that's a danger of being with
like good friends, all these kinds of things.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
You're just like, you never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
Oops, whoop said all that.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
You guys are going to be thrilled. We've got Terry Clark, Hi, Caroline,
She's gonna answer your burning questions.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
So let's see what we got.
Speaker 15 (32:08):
Hey, huge fan, Terry, A few questions. Tell us about
when you got that first big break. Where were you
at mentally, physically and emotionally in your music when you
finally broke through. What did it feel like like when
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you were there? Was it something impossible? Did you know
what was going to happen? Would love to hear that story.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I did.
Speaker 15 (32:39):
Tell us about the dream you were chasing when you
came to town, and then also what you left behind
when you did make that move, and how did that
dream change after being in town a few years? What
was your thought process day one versus two years later?
(33:00):
Where were you at? Can't wait to hear thank you?
Speaker 14 (33:04):
Okay, so some of that was entered we talked about
in the episode.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Yeah we did.
Speaker 16 (33:08):
Okay, we did the first big break. And I don't
know this gentleman's name, but whatever your name is, The
first big break felt to me like when I got
my record deal with Mercury in nineteen ninety four, because
I had been in town for eight years playing for tips,
and I waited tables eight years. I bartended. Oh it
took eight years. And I had also done other record
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label auditions for many other labels in town, and I
was turned down. I actually was told by one record
label at the time that he said, she may be
the most powerful country music female I have heard, but
not what we're looking for.
Speaker 14 (33:46):
Okay, you're like, okay, scratching my head on that one.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
But there was one reason or another, and I got
it honest.
Speaker 16 (33:54):
Here back in the day, labels had quotas for females,
like they were like, we have three females we haven't
broken yet. We can't sign another one till we either
drop one of these or we break one of the
other ones.
Speaker 14 (34:05):
So you broke in when it was hard to be
a female.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
It was hard.
Speaker 16 (34:08):
It's always been hard. Okay, it's always been hard. Just
because we were getting more airplay in the nineties and
two thousands doesn't mean it wasn't hard to get a
record deal.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
So so my.
Speaker 16 (34:18):
First big break after all of that and hearing a
lot of that for years was Mercury Records. Keith Stega
all heard a demo tape, asked me to come sing
live for him in his studio. I brought my guitar,
sang a few songs, and he was busy working with
some other people and he wasn't at Mercury yet, but
he kept me in the back of his mind. And
six months later I got a phone call and he
was now head of an art Mercury Records, and he said,
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I want to sign you as one of my first acts,
but Luke Lewis has to hear you. Can you come
to the office. And I took my guitar into Luke's
office and sat there and I played If I Were
You because I had written that song, and I played
a couple of cover songs, and they called me the next.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Day and for me a record deal.
Speaker 16 (35:00):
And up until that point, I'd had so many tears
shed I remember specifically walking from one meeting where they
said we can't sign you right now, where I had
been banking on that one in tears, walking across the
parking lot.
Speaker 14 (35:14):
Did you want to walk out and just walk back
home to hate it?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Ever?
Speaker 16 (35:17):
Oh, there were plenty of times where I'd considered, I
thought about giving up, but it was a thought.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
It wasn't a reality anyway.
Speaker 16 (35:23):
So nineteen ninety four, when I got my record deal
with Mercury, they called the next day and they said,
we would like to offer you a record deal with
Mercury Record.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
I was just like I could not believe it.
Speaker 16 (35:34):
I was like, I didn't believe it until the ink
was dry on until I signed the contract because I
had been let down so much. So it was a
really celebratory day. It was a lot of heartbreak leading
up to that, so that felt like the big break
for me.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
And I knew if I.
Speaker 16 (35:52):
Could just get a chance, if I could just get
somebody to take a chance on me.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
You're going to show them yes at all exactly. And
look at you now, look at you.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
It's been a.
Speaker 16 (36:01):
Long very it's been. The longevity is the thing I'm
the most proud of. I think that she should be been.
I'm sitting here talking to you that many years later,
and that you want to talk to me.
Speaker 14 (36:11):
You're doing a Terry Clark take two with the biggest
aides and country music.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
It's pretty cool and very very grateful, Yeah, very grateful.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, And let's not forget you're also besties in my world.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
With Dolly. I mean, well, I got my picture with Dolly.
I run it a plane with Dolly and she was hilarious.
Speaker 7 (36:29):
How could she not be She's the greatest human honor.
Speaker 16 (36:31):
Oh, I just I think everybody wants to be Dolly.
I think she should run for president, but we'll get
into that another time.
Speaker 14 (36:37):
I know, I think she's for president. She handles everything
with grace.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
She does.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
She's just she just doesn't say anything wrong everything.
Speaker 16 (36:45):
It's like you hang on every word coming out of
her mouth because it's like she's just full of just
down home wisdom and that's the way it should be.
Speaker 14 (36:52):
Forgetting it so like she doesn't.
Speaker 16 (36:54):
Get all fancy. She just tells it, well, here's the
way it is. And it's like, well, yeah, it is
that way.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
Like you did the Aubrey tribute to her, right.
Speaker 16 (37:02):
Yes, I did nine to five acoustic. Oh oh yeah, god,
it's so much fun, I know.
Speaker 14 (37:08):
And even then her grace with like el King, because
like el King got a little drunk and played it
and I was like, let's give her some grace.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
We've all had a little bit too.
Speaker 16 (37:15):
Much for Elle and I have had some great conversations
with her that night and I had left. By the
time things had had the wheels had kind of come off.
But you know what, I think that everybody's path is different.
I am pulling for her and I think she's going
to be better than ever agreed. I think I've got
I got a good feeling about Sometimes you just need
a catalyst, and I think she's going to be fine.
Speaker 14 (37:37):
Everybody has those moments, and when you're putting yourself on stage,
a lot of people to see them sometimes.
Speaker 16 (37:42):
And forgiveness is uh is something we could all use
a little bit of. And nobody's perfect. So anybody who's
throwing rocks in their glass house needs to not do that.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
He checked it.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
They just haven't been caught yet.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Amen to that. I think we have one more question.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I got one more.
Speaker 14 (38:00):
Oh, do you have any things that you say that
are super Canadian?
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (38:05):
You know, you bet you?
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (38:08):
Geez o?
Speaker 7 (38:09):
Got it sounds more like I'm from Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
He Terry fan here.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
I can't wait to hear you on Caroline's podcast. I
have a little question for you. Out of all the
performances and collaborations you've done, is there one that's most memorable?
And why is that most memorable?
Speaker 6 (38:28):
Oh my goodness, that is a loaded question because I've
done a lot of collaborations and here recently on my
album Take two.
Speaker 14 (38:39):
Wow, I know you really have had too many to
have a favorite. Like your collaborations are epic.
Speaker 16 (38:45):
Okay, but I'm gonna go back and like go back
to like an icon. Well, gosh, I've collaborated with Riba,
that's not it's hard to beat that, Tanya Tucker on Delta.
Speaker 6 (38:56):
Dawn and Emmy Lou Harris.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
It's so crazy.
Speaker 16 (38:59):
From now, I think Tanya Tucker, Emmy Lou Harris and
Riba are the I can't pick just one out of
those three, but because they're so iconic. Yes, and as
much as I love everything on Take two there they
are a lot of newer artists. But gosh, as far
as performance goes, one performance of a collaboration that maybe
(39:21):
not a lot of people are going to be familiar
with it or that of the album is on my
Classic Records, the covers I did Leaven on Your Mind
with Jan Orden and that that version.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Of that song.
Speaker 16 (39:32):
I'm really proud of our vocal performance together on that song.
And Jan Arden's a Canadian icon, not necessarily a country
but she's movie stars, she's a television star, she's a
she's a social media star, and she is a phenomenal songwriter,
singer and entertainer.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
Very very funny and a good friend.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
The life you have lived, very lucky. What a life.
Harry Clark in the house. Thank you so much for
joining me.
Speaker 14 (39:57):
Thank you, Carol on this bonus episode and my podcast.
It is just a thrill and a pleasure and an
honor to be able to sit down with you.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
Well, I'm honored to get to be here. Thank you
so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Okay, we are back with a bonus episode, Call.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Caroline, where we answer your burning questions, and I have
Alex and Drake White here, and actually I'm going to
start off with one question.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I want to know how do y'all keep it hot
in the bedroom.
Speaker 17 (40:31):
I didn't know you're going to ask it.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
I'm being serious. Well, it helps that.
Speaker 18 (40:35):
He's a musician who tours and is gone on the road.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
You so then when he comes home you're ready for it. Yeah,
get it in.
Speaker 18 (40:41):
And then of course he has a beard and you know,
just manly all the things. I'm like, Oh, you're just
the sexiest thing coming in off the road after being
gone for you know so many.
Speaker 17 (40:49):
All right, I'm gonna hold you to that.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
Yeah, no, he's.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Gonna say your sexy thing is home, bebe or if
I'm like, oh those d I don't.
Speaker 17 (40:57):
I don't see how people actually live each each other
three sixty five days a year. Alex is awesome. I
have a great wife, I have a great we have
a great thing in chemistry. But like I was born for,
he's a gypsy for leaving man. And I think it's
so it's so cool, like to come home and to
have somebody to come home to. And I think about
(41:18):
it all the time, like, oh, I can't wait to
get home.
Speaker 7 (41:21):
But then see each other.
Speaker 18 (41:22):
You know, you guys probably need yea, you feel the same.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
It's nice to miss each other.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
Yeah, yeh, it's a good thing.
Speaker 17 (41:27):
Well it's not new. It's not this new thing like
used to a long time ago. And I do this
a lot like back in the old days, like guys
went out on these hunting excursions. And I'm not using
that as an excuse to go out on more hunting excerpts.
Speaker 7 (41:41):
But you're going on tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
You leave tomorrow for a hunting excursions, and I surely.
Speaker 17 (41:45):
We're not supposed to be around each other twenty four
to seven all day, three sixty five, like that absence
is supposed to be a good thing.
Speaker 18 (41:53):
Yeah, And I'm an extroverted introvert, you know, so I
like that a long time too, to kind of recharge.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 18 (41:59):
So it's not okay, good balance, Okay.
Speaker 7 (42:01):
Okay, okay, okay, So the distance keeps it hot.
Speaker 6 (42:05):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
We got some calling questions.
Speaker 19 (42:07):
Right, Hey, what's up, Drake. It's your buddy Michael Hobby,
And I'd like to know how you keep such a
positive attitude and stay so motivated and driven after everything
that you've been through, you know, personally and professionally in
(42:27):
this life.
Speaker 17 (42:29):
Well, I mean it's it goes back to kind of
our interview. I mean, there's nothing I cannot take credit
for that. It's something I get up and I work
out every day. I Mean, I've got a sticky note
on my mirror every every night, every every morning that
I look at that says, you know, think positively thoughts
about think positive thoughts about yourself, Say positive things about yourself.
(42:52):
Say good things are going to happen. Know that people
are for you, not against you, and it will come.
I say we are magnets for all things good. We
do not chase, we attract. Love comes to us easy,
and what is meant to find us will simply find us.
I say that every day, every single day, and it
is a grind, Michael and I don't always do a
(43:17):
good job at it. I feel a lot at being positive.
My brand is positive. You know, what the outside world
sees is positive and what the music reads, a lot
of it reads is positive. But it is a constant
kind of therapy session in my head of what am
(43:37):
I going to do with this thought? What am I
going to do? Is it true?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Is it not?
Speaker 17 (43:42):
And as far as like what I've been through, like
I think it's a superpower to learn how to flip
everything that happens bad for good. So oh I'm I'm
I'm glad I'm going through this because now I'm going
to be a vessel for somebody else to to get
through something. And I've had so many people talk about,
(44:03):
you know, making get through suicidal thoughts because of a song,
and I'm like, are you kidding me? Like that's that's amazing.
So number ones are great, they would be great. I
don't know what it feels like. Michael. Maybe you could
tell me what that feels like. But I think the
bigger thing for me, And I'm not just saying this
(44:24):
because this is a warm and sunshiny thing. It's like
when somebody says that they didn't commit suicide because this
song helped them get through this part of life and
gave them hope. Then that's why I know that I'm
still doing it for the right reasons and I'm still
supposed to do it, you know, And you know that's it.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
And I want to add to that too.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Though your brand is positive, but like your brand is real,
like you don't hold back from sharing the truth of it.
And you probably really struggle with these hard thoughts because
God has really put you through some hard you know.
So it's like you wouldn't be a human if you
weren't struggling. You can't brush over what's happened to you, guys.
You know you have to get in the fire with it.
(45:08):
And I love that your band was called I don't
know if it still is Drake Whit in the Big Fire.
I mean, you've been in the big fire the whole time.
Y'all been in the big fire life. You're not playing small.
So when you get hit, it's hard.
Speaker 17 (45:19):
You know, we're lucky to go through it because I
just think that he gave us these obstacles and these
things because he allowed us to go through them, because
he knows what we'll do with it. And if if
you give me that responsibility, if that's the way you
think of it, man, you gave me that responsibility because
(45:40):
you knew that I would be diligent with you know,
diligent with with showing people towards you with it. Then
I'm we're doing Then. I'm really excited because we've been
through a lot of shit like it's it's it's really hard.
But at the same time, we've got a great group
(46:01):
of people and we've got a great just love for life.
Dang it. I do love it. I love the seventy
five years, ninety two years. Ye, I do love it.
I love being a part of it. I love sunsets
and sunrises and beach houses.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
And let's get a beach house, Alex, do you have
anything you want to add about now, Let's get a
beach house. Let's get ext all the boxes. I love
I love it. I love you guys. You guys are
just the best. Y'all are such a testament to.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
Like faith and perseverance and believing in a dream and
marriage and working through the hard stuff and you know,
just just soldiering on.
Speaker 7 (46:40):
You know, you just keep on, keep on, keeping on,
At carl Line. She's a queen and talking, so she's
getting an afraid to favor its episode, So just let
it flow.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
No one can do we quiet car Line is sounding Caroline.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
What's up you guys?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
We have had so much fun with this bonus episode
of burning Questions.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
This year that we thought it's time to do a.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Mashup of some of the hottest burning questions that we've had.
So buckle up and get ready to laugh, to maybe
cry and cringe at some of this year's most scorching
burning questions.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Here's a little recap.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Enjoy.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Okay, we are back with ray Lynn and we are
doing a bonus episode of Call Caroline where Call Caroline
listeners are calling in with their burning questions.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Are you ready to go? You're ready to get after this?
Speaker 5 (01:11):
I'm ready?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And or do we get to be like therapists like online? Yeah, okay,
I'm ready, which.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You actually could be a great therapist because you have
so much wisdom. If you haven't heard that the Monday's episode,
listen to it because Raylyn drops some wisdom on life.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
We try you do.
Speaker 7 (01:26):
Okay, Okay, let's see what we got.
Speaker 8 (01:29):
We got, Hi, Caroline, this is Katie, My question is,
what would you say is a habit or a little
tick that your husband has that gets on your nerves
and how do you handle that?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
And then secondly, what would he say about you and
your annoying tick and how do you try to manage
that as well?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Thanks? Thanks?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I mean that's marriage, one on one.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
You're gonnannoy them? You go first?
Speaker 7 (02:01):
No, no, no, you do because Josh is perfect.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Josh's like an angel.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Josh is perfect. I would say, I don't think it's annoying.
I just like I feel like he doesn't think that
I'm funny.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
He doesn't think you're funny.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I'm funny, but like he does think I'm funny, but
he is a We have very different like we're our
humor is different.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
But are you trying to make him laugh all the time?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yes, I'm always trying to make him laugh and he's
not laughing, and but then it makes me laugh because
he doesn't laugh. And like, especially like when my best
friend to me he's over, We're always just annoying him,
which I think is so funny. But he acts like
he's annoyed. But don't you love this about guys? They
act like they annoyed, but they actually love it. Like
he loves like girl talk like he does, Oh, he
(02:44):
loves go He's like, so he acts like he doesn't
want to know what's going on. But then the other
room we're talking, He's like, so what are we talking about? Like,
my favorite thing that Kaylee Dickerson said is I think.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
We were over. You were there too.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
We were over at Canaan Smith's is years ago, oh,
at a birthday birthday party.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
And then he comes over, he goes, what are we drinking? Girlies?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
But probably my annoying tick if he Russell said that,
No Kaylee, Josh said that to Kaylee and me, what
are we drinking girlies?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
And he thought that she thought it was so funny.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
My I already know one thing about myself, and I'm actually,
this is a bad thing, but it's not. It's not bad,
but like I process things in my head, and so
I feel like he's already gonna know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
So if I'm like talking about.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
The moon landing, right, like the moon landing just like
something wild, right, I'll be.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Like, but has someone landed on the moon lately?
Speaker 5 (03:33):
No? And I don't know if I believe in it.
But so anyway, flat earth Earth, I don't know if
you're flat earth? Oh my god, I don't.
Speaker 9 (03:39):
Even know what?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, I but like I could, I process things in
my head. So Josh will be like, you know, will
we talk about something? And then I'll be thinking of
something else and I'll just say, what do you think
about this?
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Or not?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Like, oh, can you believe that He's like, what are
you actually talking about?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Probably that's one of tho ticks probab probably have so
many of them.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
But does he do anything though? Because like, okay, especially
like when you have a kid, you.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Start talking about Michael.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Well, Michael is great, Michael's the best.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
He's the best. But I mean when you're married to
someone for ten years almost and you have a kid.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Like and also to like I'm kind of messy. Josh
is very clean.
Speaker 7 (04:12):
Oh okay, see that would drive me nuts.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I'm super clean, Like I'm clean, but I'm not, like
I just like my sink doesn't have to be clean.
The common areas have to be clean, like the living room,
that's fair, kitchen like stuff like that. But like, and
it's probably the military part of Josh too, Like everything
has to be in it the spot, which is great.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Okay, Well, because like there's this thing called the h H.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Have you heard of the HH?
Speaker 7 (04:35):
It's the husband hatred. It happens when you have a baby.
Did you ever have that?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You never got the HH? Like you never hated Josh?
Like did he always like because like you.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Know, like when you have a baby, I sometimes feel
like men just like don't know what to do.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
But Josh didn't.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
He did, he did.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
I knew he was one of those he did did.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
He just do all the funniest thing that he did.
And I'll never forget when.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
I don't know, Michael, Okay, sometimes you're like, no, I
get it.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You don't know how to do anything with this baby.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It was really funny. One thing that Josh should say,
he goes, I just don't know what to do. I
just don't have a boob. If I had a boob,
I would help, but I don't have titties. Like it
was just like funny, like when you're nursing, it's like
he's like and it felt because the only one. He
felt very hopeless. But Josh was so great. He would
clean my the breast pump, he would do the stuff.
He'd always have it ready for me to pump in
them on my like Josh was like, no complaints.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
He was pretty epic.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So Josh said he loved his thing is he never
wanted Daisy to cry, obviously, so he'd blow dry her
with a blow dryer so that she wouldn't cry. And
I'll never forget when Tyler Hyber came over Tyler and
Haley to come visit Daisy and Daisy like I was
blow I was changing his diaper and like we're used to.
I'm obviously used to changing her diaper, and Daisy and
Josh blow drying her because I've seen this. But the
(05:44):
average person that comes over, they were like, what the
hell is Josh doing? Like he goes, are you blow
drying your baby right now? And he goes, she doesn't cry.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
She was crying with me. And then he's like, it's
actually pretty genius. But it was funny. We ended up
having the PEDIATRICI.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
At first, I just say, okay, we have to stop
with the blow dryers.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
So funny, but I feel like sometimes guys are just
not aware.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I feel like if I was going to say something
that annoyed me, it's like just because Michael is so
great and so sweet, and Michael's such a good.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Husband, father, all of it.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
But it's like, I just feel like he's such a dude,
Like Michael is a guy, is a guy is a guy.
He grew up with four brothers, he's been in a band,
he's one of four brothers.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Josh is a dude. But also he had four sisters. Okay,
he's got an unfair advantage.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
That's a super unfair advantage.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Okay, And ladies, just let you know, if you marry
someone who has sisters, they are going to understand a
female life. Michael grew up with three rowdy brothers. He's
in a band with three other guys his whole life.
He's been around dudes forever.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
And he had daughter.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah that God's saying, I got a level the playing
field here, you know. And now he's in Sunny is
like girl girl. I mean she's a venture girl, but
like she's girly. So he's just like the girl world
is Like.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
He's learning it with me, you know, because he didn't.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Grow up in it, but Josh grob in it, so
he knows what girls need.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So what's your annoying tick about Michael gonna answer the question,
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
My noise, Well, he's so great and he's such a
I mean.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Disposition our husbands.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I don't want Michael to be like I can't believe
you're talking blast, you know. I think sometimes he just
doesn't know to look for certain details that I need done.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
But guys forget details. That's why, that's why they need
a woman like that. I know. It's like, and that's
the thing is I want to feel needed.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
So like I can't get mad if Josh forgets a
sound machine for a nap, like or forget to sleep
like you know, because of course he did, like of
course he didn't like forgot the bottle like you know,
like he's not so but it makes you feel needed.
But also I get what you're saying. But that's also
being married to the dude.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I know well, and it's just like you know, I
feel like for me, I probably didn't really have many
things that annoyed me too much until Sonny was born.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Because it's like.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
You notice everything you're doing, you're packing, you like, if
you're you know what she needs to wear, you know
what she needs to pack, you know what she needs
to eat, you know, and she needs to change her diver,
you know, and she needs to be fed, you know,
getting your school in line, getting your appointments with their
doctor in line. It's like Michael's there to help, but like,
for some reason, women just do all that.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Why do women just do all that on the resume?
That's true.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I think that That's probably what I got annoyed, is like, man,
my workload just got which I love this work.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
Yeah, I love them on workload, but I'm like.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Why do you not?
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Why do I just Why did the download hit me
and it didn't hit you?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Is that just it?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
I think? And we feel needed though.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
I mean I know I'm needed.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
I know, yeah, I know I needed. I know I needed, Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
That's why we got a puppy for Sonny for Christmas.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
But I said to Michael and Sonny, I said, I
am not gonna imprint with this dog.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Oh it's yours.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
No, I am not gonna imprint with this dog because
I will get in there and I will love this dog.
I will kiss this dog, I will nurture this dog.
I will spoon see this dog.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I'm gonna snuggle this dog, and then this dog is
gonna only want to be with me, and I was like,
that's not y'all dog.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
This is y'all's dog.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So I like, I keep the dog alive.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
But I have stood back.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I didn't like love it extra. I'm like, girl, you're
gonna survive.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
This is your thing, this is your dog and it
imprinted with sunny or she slings that thing over her
shoulder talk.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
She's so funny, you're tough.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, so oh, I think that just like him not
being able to like know what isn't my running to
do list and just like take some of it would
be my annoyed saying you don't.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Know my Costco list. Your Costco Gurley thing cracked me up.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I don't know how that thing popped off. It was
hilarious Costco Gurley. I'm a Costco Girley. I was like,
of course I buy extra Televi for my friends were
too cheap to buy.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
I'm a Costco Girlly. I was just meaning so stupid.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Raylan made a video on her Instagram and TikTok. I
don't know wherever it is, but it's like Costco Gurley.
That thing that went viral.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Yeah, it was hilarious.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
Did Costco give you a free membership, but they should,
they should.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah it was great.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Yeah, you'd be a great spokesperson Costco anyway. So you know,
I think just like accepting the fact.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
And it's like you said earlier in our interview that
we talked about our long form interview on Monday, it's like,
you can't get annoyed by every little thing because when
you live with.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Some one, and especially yeah, there's seasons.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
There's seasons that are intense in your little head.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Football kind of annoys me, just like, why is everything
the game from He's a football You're not even like
you don't even have a team, you have a player,
you like players, and now fantasy messes up everything.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
He's one of those Michael's not that see like, and I.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Don't mind football.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I love football, but it's like, why can't we just
have a team and that's what we watch every week?
But no, now there's players, and you gotta do your players,
have gotta do goods, you gotta watch your players play
every time.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
I don't know football because of Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Yeah, god, I know it's so annoying.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I'm so annoying.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
I know. I love it though, I like seeing her
with a guy like that. Though it's cool. I like
that She's like she.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Got pursued too, because I mean, it'd be very hard
to pursue Taylor Swift.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Yeah, it's like, how do you like, where do you start?
Speaker 10 (10:47):
But he he just did, And I'm like, you're not
gonna get unless you try it.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Hey, and he got it. He did.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
We'll see what how it goes. But I've enjoyed watching it.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Thank you very I think it'd be super cute.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
I think it'd be great. It see like a royal wedding.
Everyone in the world's want to say, of course, I know.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, So anyway, I think that there's season.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
How the big revolving door of our whole conversation based
off what are we get annoyed by by our husbands?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I know, right, But you know what, at the end
of the day, I'm like, because sometimes when I'm in
the midst of my annoyance, especially like when Sunny was
super young and like your postpartum, your bodies whack, your
emotions are insane, You're crying about everything, and then this
husband doesn't have a boob and the baby just wants you,
and you got this whole list of things to do,
and I'm literally like, what in the world, Like you're
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losing your mind. I mean I did for a little,
but it's the most love you've ever felt. But then
you're also like, are you like is everybodykay?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Are you like?
Speaker 7 (11:37):
But are you like in this with me?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Because like I feel like they are.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
They are, but they just don't know what to do.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And then you get through it, and then you go
through seasons and you grow.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
It's just like stick it out.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Like you said, if you've got a good person and
a good partner, you married him for a reason.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Yeah, you're married to a good person.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
You're always gonna work it out, and there's gonna be
seasons where like sometimes I feel like he's annoying me,
but like she's asking, Katy's asking, like what do you do?
I am annoying because I'm a little I think controlling,
probably absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But I'm like, you should, Yeah, you should do this
way because it's gonna work out better, and this is
the plan I need this to have.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So I think being married to someone is being with
someone all the time. I mean, yeah, it's just there's
gonna be time.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Oh my gosh. Absolutely, except for Josh.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You don't never get the h h. You never got
the h H.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
I never hated my husband.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
That's not real hate.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
It's just annoyance.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, just low annoying.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Yeah, Okay, okay, we're gonna do one more question and listen.
Michael and Josh, we love you so much.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Absolutely, there's no no farm, no.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Harm, no foul, no harm, no foul. I mean, if
he got on here, he would have he would probably
they say, we're perfectly.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
What would Josh say about.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
You, He's probably just saying wild, that's why I like you.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, Michae would probably say I'm a little bit controlling,
But I'm not controlling.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I just think really the thing about me is like
if we went on this Christmas bar crawl when I
planned a drink, I get schmisted and he like, he's
the best husband.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Though, he just carries me back into the house. He's
like I had to tell the uber driver, like, I
swear this is my wife. I'll show you the photos.
I'm not taking her.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
So you go hard.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
I go hard on the payment, not very much. But
what I do when you do, you're let But do
you have the next question.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Okay, okay, we're ready for the next question.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Here we go.
Speaker 11 (13:15):
Hey, Caroline, I could use a little bit of advice.
So me and my fiance are planning our wedding for
later this year, and oh my gosh, it is so
expensive to plan a wedding, even a simple one.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Hello.
Speaker 11 (13:28):
So we have come back that conclusion that we want
this to be a child free wedding, and we're really
nervous that that's going to cause some controversy. So I
just wanted to get your advice on the best way
for us to break it to people that they need
to leave their kids at home.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I think the best way to break it to people
to leave kids at home is listen, does she have
Obviously the girl probably doesn't have kids, but that's okay.
Just say hey, I want I want you guys to
have a good time.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
I want you to have a date night. Like it's
an advance enough for you to get a sitter. We're
doing child free.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That way, everybody can truly enjoy themselves and not have
the stress of.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Bringing their children.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I think when you come from that aspect, because everybody
wants to like have a break, you know what I mean,
and like not be on, you know, and like we're
Daisy is gonna be in a wedding, a flower girls.
She's be the flower girl. She's the only kid at
the wedding. But then she's gonna go home and go
to bed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10 (14:29):
Girl, Mom's got to MoMA's got to get an Uberam
just kidding, No, But I'm just saying, like, I don't
think it's bad if you come from that aspect of Like,
I don't think that that's heartless.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
And I think people just I think it all depends
on the people that you're inviting. But I don't think.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
It's Honestly, I think parents are looking for a hard
no sometimes not to bring their kids because.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Because they feel guilty, Like I know I would feel guilty,
Oh should I bring Daisy?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
There's gonna be family or whatever. But if there's a
hard no, don't you just.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Kind of if Sonny wants to go everywhere, and like
how you're a dating I want to bring Sonny everywhere.
But then like when you do have like the hard no,
it's just gonna be appearents, like because how often do
you get a date night?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, you know That's what I'm saying I think if
you stretch up, and I think if you approach it
in that way.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
You're gonna be fine. Girl.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, agreed, that's what you do. Totally agreed, And honestly,
just think about it. You're kind of doing them a
favor because they might not have done it for themselves.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
It's your damn day.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
If you don't want kids there, you don't have to
have kids there.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
I want you to dress like a unicorn. Okay, you
have to dress it is your damn day. That's another thing.
Take that back, take it back.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Okay, Well, there you go. All the all the problems
of the world solved.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Thank you guys for tuning in to Caroline and Ray
this bonus ever episode of Call Caroline and Ray all
your burning questions answered.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I'm so excited to be back on a bonus episode
of Call Caroline with Kayleie Dickerson where we answer your
burning questions.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
I cannot wait.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
You ready to burn? I'm rented up?
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Ready burn it up there. Okay, let's see what we got.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Hi, girls.
Speaker 12 (16:15):
In a recent discussion with some married friends over dinner,
the topic came up of what is the average amount
of a married couple to have sex a week, wondering
what you both think about this?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Do you want to go first?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I just love this because you and I in the
first podcast we were like champs, and I want to
know if you're still this is actually a great question
because we were like, yeah, we have sex every day,
every day.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
And now I'm thinking, like, whoa, that was a lot
for me.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Are you still keeping that?
Speaker 13 (16:48):
I actually thought about this this morning getting ready to
see you. I was like, I feel like we need
to readdress this. I'm so glad we're going to readdress
because yeah, we'd been married for what four years? Three
no kids, and that was a goal of mine because
the goal it was a goal.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Oh for sure, every single day it was a goal.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Wait, it was a goal.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
You're like, we're gonna have sex every day?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Oh yeah, tell me what the goal was, Like, why
was that the goal because you just knew that would
make the marriage?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Well?
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Or because you couldn't get enough of that burn and
record Russell Dickerson.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Yes, he was like a hot dad before he was
a hot dad.
Speaker 13 (17:21):
I I know, obviously, but also I feel like that
was one of the things I watched I didn't really
see in my parents marriage was like passion for each other,
and so I they loved each other and they're still
married like fifty five years, but they had me at
forty two, So like, obviously all these things are at play, right,
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And I was like, if I don't prioritize this now,
how am I going to prioritize it when I have kids?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
God, you're always on it.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
You knew you see you You're I'm an observer.
Speaker 13 (17:51):
I'm the youngest of six kids, so like my whole
life was watching everyone live and be like yes, no, yes, no,
like that don't want to do that?
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (18:00):
So that really worked in your favorite Yeah, I really did.
Speaker 13 (18:02):
I'd a major advantage, honestly, And so I would look
at other marriages. And what's funny is one of my
best friend's parents they are obsessed with each other so cute.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
I look up to them so much.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
And if they're older, they're older, yeah, but she's the oldest.
Speaker 13 (18:15):
So they are younger parents than my They're like twenty
years younger than my parents.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
And like she would be like.
Speaker 13 (18:22):
When she was in high school, my friend was in
high school, her mom would be like, honey, I'm drawing
the bath, like with all the friends over and like,
no shame in their game? Was it friend embarrassed? No,
I mean maybe a little, but she was so used
to it. They're so fun and like funny. I probably
in high school would have been mortified if the parents
someone's parents said that, but like as someone who I
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didn't see that with my parents, I always admired it.
And but I, you know what's so funny is I
would think, like, what makes couples great together?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (18:52):
And I thought they laugh at each other and that
was like a correlation i'd made. Come to find out later,
I was reading this marriage book and it was talking
about sex and the more sex you have, the funnier
you find each other.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Really, so I tell you why that is.
Speaker 13 (19:05):
I have no idea box comfortable or connected all of it,
all of it, And I was like, oh, how interesting.
I saw the fruit and I recognized that before I
knew what the root was, that they were connecting. And
for me personally, I tend to stuff things like I
don't want to deal with a feeling or emotional like ignore.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
I'll like ignore it, don't make a big deal.
Speaker 13 (19:27):
And I can't obviously be intimate with my husband if
I can't be intimate with my thoughts and emotions.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Oh look you there, Kaylee Dickerson. Again, you are so wise.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
So I this was something I kind of put in
place for myself.
Speaker 13 (19:40):
Was like, okay, well we're going to be intimate that
way later, so I better talk about it now. I
better say like, hey, that really hurt my feelings or
hey I'm feeling like distant or I haven't had enough
time with you, or I have to say it.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
So you wouldn't have spoken up before. That was not natural.
It was hard for me to do.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, so you're like, okay, I'm gonna because we're going
to be intimate.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
I want to be intimate across the board.
Speaker 13 (20:03):
Yeah, so anyway, I'll have to say, it's not every
single day anymore.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
We have kids.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I know we're tired. Uh, but I love it. That
was a goal though, I love it.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
Yeah, it was my goal. It was totally my goal.
I mean, and you won that goal for years, for years.
I mean, I still it still.
Speaker 13 (20:16):
Wasn't every single day, every single week like obviously, but
if you aimed for every day, it was probably like
at least five times. And now I'd say we're more
in the four four department three four department.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Four department A week we tried with a baby that's
four months old.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Kaylee, you are killing the game. Maybe no, I mean
obviously postpartum. Yeah, you gotta give yourself a break, right, you.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Gotta hold two months?
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Yeah, so I'd.
Speaker 13 (20:41):
Say those first like few months, probably more like one
to two.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
Yeah, and then we try to up it. But I
don't know. This week we were real tight. We probably
was probably only twice last week.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Okay, So like win because like we since we're talking
about sex, we have to like no pun intended, slip
it in sometimes, right, because like Sonny sleeps in the
bed with us years ago, but I love it.
Speaker 13 (21:06):
No, Caroline know this that I slept in my parents' bed. Yeah,
but because of that, you.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Have to find other times.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Okay, So do y'all are y'all nighttime people?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
In the end?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Are you traditional in the bed at night when the
kids are asleep?
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 13 (21:21):
Or a nap time, love a good nap time. Yeah,
that's more so. That's an easy with kids because by
the end of the night, I'm so tired, and I
try to coordinate that they at least overlap at the
one o'clock.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Nap so you can have Yeah, how much time you need, not.
Speaker 13 (21:34):
A time, but hey, mmy sleeps for like three hours,
so I'm not saying it's three hours.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
But like we got we have.
Speaker 13 (21:41):
Some freedom there, like, and we're not as tired as
we are.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Actually at yesterday, we were hanging out and Sonny was
watching cartoons upstairs, and I was talking to Michael in
his office and he.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
Was like, you're quick.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
You really fast. I'm like, I mean, and I was like,
you gotta, it's gonna be fat fast.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I mean, I'm like, I'm talking like five minutes or
under fast. It's like, okay, but you have to make
this happen fast and then come to find out right
towards the moment, said He's like, mom, I'm.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Like, go go, go.
Speaker 13 (22:11):
Right towards the moment, but I'm like, just get real
with Caroline.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Hobby, everybody, you know, people need to know about how
you get it in Okay, I'm not trying to have
all these sexual puns doing it, but it's happening because
it's important.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You got it.
Speaker 13 (22:27):
It's so important, it's so so so important because if.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
That goes, it really can That's the beginning of the
downward slide.
Speaker 13 (22:33):
Yeah, And I think if anyone's really honest with themselves.
When there's an one of my friends she says this,
She goes, I need an emotional orgasm before I can
have a real one.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Mmmm.
Speaker 13 (22:43):
So she has they have this, like she needs to
have a heart to heart conversation and like not even
a big deep something, but just a hey.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
How was your day? What are you worried about right now?
Speaker 13 (22:54):
Like just a connectedness emotionally, And that makes all the
difference too. And I think it's it's cyclical, like the
more you're having sex, the more because because that hormone
that's released when you breastfeed is released, men release it.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
After they have sex fact fun fact.
Speaker 13 (23:12):
And so they form a bond in all of that.
So if you're looking for him to be mushy and
all that there, it depends on the guy.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
I'm like imaginings some like not nice guy who's not
mushy afterwards.
Speaker 13 (23:26):
But if you marry a good one, it does form
some bonding and then they're more likely to be vulnerable
and open and and then you are. Because it's just cyclical,
it feeds, it feeds itself, and if.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
You don't have that intimacy your relationship.
Speaker 13 (23:43):
Starts to get a little Yeah, we get we get more,
we misunderstand each other, Yeah, we miss each other. It's yeah, yeah,
you feel less on the same page. And I'm like,
why do I feel like this? Oh, because it's been
a couple of days.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, a couple of days.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Win, a couple of days. I'm like Michael, and I
will say, Okay, So to get back to the question,
I say, we are like at it two times a week.
Speaker 13 (24:06):
Okay, Okay, there's many weeks that it's been like that
in the last several months.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
If we were four times a week, I would be like,
we're killing killing the game, it feels, do you okay.
Speaker 13 (24:16):
I also feel like there's weeks that it's like two
times a week for like two weeks, and then there's
a week that it's like four yeah, yeah, yeah, because
it is it's the more you have, the more you
crave it. It's just it's it feeds itself.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I'll just keep saying that, and that's why it is important,
Like I do believe just to like bring it back
to like not just to be funny about sex and stuff,
but like it is a huge part of a relationship. Yeah,
if you're, in my personal opinion and observation of couples
and myself, if you're not having a healthy sexual relationship
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weekly and like feeling that emotional intimacy and physical intimacy,
it's going to start sliding.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I feel like that's how it starts to slip.
Speaker 13 (24:58):
I will say also with the caveat of like we
weren't doing that dating personally. Oh yeah, So I actually
think it protected me in a lot of ways and
our relationship because we actually genuinely were obsessed with being
with each other that I knew he was that was
all going to be great.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
You know, I knew I was already going.
Speaker 13 (25:20):
There was no need to test drive, Like I was like,
this is We're gonna be fine.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
What if it would have been bad?
Speaker 5 (25:24):
It was.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
It wasn't gonna be bad.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
It was good.
Speaker 13 (25:26):
Yeah, there's chemistry, like you have chemistry, and there was chemistry.
But I do think that was one of the reasons
that we are still obsessed with hanging out with each
other and everyone's like, how do I get what y'all have?
And I really do think that was a huge piece
of it because and why I know, he's such a
good man and all these things, like he honored me
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for like two and a half years, you know, and
protected me, so that now on this side, I'm like,
there's no way he would do anything different. And we
built such a solid foundation of just being obsessed with
each other, and so then you add in the extra
and then it's just pretty great.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Okay, So what was your wedding night?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Like awesome?
Speaker 7 (26:09):
It was actually it was like I really was, no, like, no,
it was it was everything you could have dreamed of,
everything I dreamed of anymore. Seriously dead serious.
Speaker 13 (26:17):
That's like, which is crazy? That is like it is
that's not everybody's story. Were you nervous because I mean
this is two and a half years ago, held up?
Speaker 7 (26:24):
No, I was just so excited. Like it's so funny.
Speaker 13 (26:27):
His contact photo in my phone is still like a
picture a selfie we took on the way to the
hotel after our after our wedding, and like the excitement
is so like palpable, Like when you look at this picture,
it's so cute.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
It's so cute. I mean that is Yeah, it has
to be one of the most thrilling moments of your life.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Yeah, it really was. And our honeymoon. What a blast?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Were you all just naked the whole time?
Speaker 13 (26:48):
Yeah, pretty much, and like four times a day or
like I mean, yeah, yeah, we tried.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
That was a little bit much. One of those days,
I was like, that's too much. We need we need
to chill. Like I'm actually I'm sore.
Speaker 13 (27:00):
Yeah, I'm like if you yeah, yes, it's like if
you don't, if you don't, like all you really have
to look forward to being married is like paying taxes together.
And so I was like, I really want to like
have something to look forward to, and so like we
moved in together after that, and it was truly just
like this newlywed happy bubble.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
And I don't know that it's popped, you know, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
A little bit.
Speaker 13 (27:23):
Kids pop it a little bit, but in the best way,
you know. I don't want to make it seem like
the kids they're so I would never change a single thing.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
But because now you get to love Russell in a
whole new way, yeah, and see the kids and him
seeing be I would do that the exact.
Speaker 13 (27:36):
Same way every single time if I had a choice,
which I don't, I'm not going to relive my life.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
But right I highly recommend it.
Speaker 13 (27:44):
But I would say the reason I say all that is,
you know, I think in a dating relationship, if you're
actively having sex that much, it's actually detrimental because you're
not getting to know the person exactly. And and anyone, I'm like,
that's that's like saying everyone has a sex drive, right that.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
I always say it's like dating someone because you both
like lunch.
Speaker 13 (28:04):
It's like, well, yeah, obviously we all like lunch, but
it doesn't mean that you are compatible. And I think
that can be hidden when you have sex too early.
I think it can hide a lot. My love converts
a multitude of sins, and I feel like sex conceals
sin because.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
As soon as you have it, especially as a female,
you're emotionally attached, and so.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
Are they, whether they tell you or not, or.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
They start running away, and then you've given yourself and
you're like, oh my gosh, or yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
I think it's really practical. Honestly, it's like and you
learn self control.
Speaker 13 (28:37):
So in the same way Russell and I had self
control towards each other, we have self control married.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Like, it doesn't even cross my mind.
Speaker 13 (28:45):
I'm like, he said no to me for two and
a half years, he's not going to say yes to
some random person on the fly, Like that's just never,
that's not gonna happen. And so I think you need
to learn to flex that muscle one way or another.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
And I think dating trains you to do it.
Speaker 13 (28:59):
And then I mean, I'm not here to be like
ultra religious on the matter, Like I love people who've
lived together slepty of whatever, like you do you, But
I think this is there's a reason. I feel like
God instills that in us, and like try he tries
to protect us.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
I think what we said before is go back to
the podcast.
Speaker 13 (29:19):
I think it can really hurt you, and you can
get emotionally attached to someone that you're not supposed to.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Be with and maybe end up with someone that you're
not supposed to be with.
Speaker 13 (29:27):
Yeah, honestly, And I'm like, this is the most important
decision of your life. Like I wanted to be as
soberminded in that decision as possible. I didn't want it
clouded by well, we have great chemistry or this or that.
And I just think a lot I've watched it happen
sadly that a lot of personality and a lot of
hidden things are hidden and stay hidden because you can
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just bury it with.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Your physical connection. And it takes a minute to get
to know someone fully.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, and you've got to be willing to like kind
of ride out a period of time, because I've always said, like,
the first eight months, I feel.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Like you just got love goggles on.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yes, you can't.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
See anything, but how amazing this person is.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
You can't believe you have this connection.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
They're so cute, all the things they do, You're like,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
And then come about eight months to a year.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
That's why you're like, ooh, it's just getting real. And
do we want to stick this out?
Speaker 14 (30:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (30:20):
Yeah, totally. And I think I had a note when
Rus and I got married. Nothing surprised me, nothing. I
was like, I knew you were like this, you knew
I'm like this.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Here we are, and that's why you're so grounded and
you have such a strong foundation.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
I really, I really think that.
Speaker 13 (30:35):
Yeah, And I'm always hesitant to share it. I don't
even actually know if I've ever shared it in this
like great detail, because like you don't want people to
feel judged by it or like feel like anything other
than I just want people to build right And I
think that really helped us build right.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I love that, okay.
Speaker 13 (30:55):
And now, hey, on the other side, it's a party,
you know. It's like on the other side, you're like, yeah,
let's have sex every day. That's why we were like
two and a half years. That's why when he was like, well,
I'm not getting married tilling forty, I was like, well,
I'm not a nun, my guy, so find someone else.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
They ain't gonna hit, ain't gonna be me.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Kay I love you, Okay. So to answer the question,
have sex as much as possible?
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Yeah, really honestly, have.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
It all the time. Yeah, but wait for that commitment.
Speaker 13 (31:22):
Yeah right, wait for a safe Yeah, a safe place.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Well, if that's not a burning question, I don't know
what is.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
So thank you Kaylee Dickerson for joining me on my
podcast This is I feel like we had a combo
of get real and coffee with Kaylee.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
It was an honor, it was in a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
It was so much fun. Thanks for going all the
way with me.
Speaker 13 (31:42):
Hey, with the distance, that's a danger of being with
like good friends, all these kinds of things.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
You're just like, you never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
Oops, whoop said all that.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
You guys are going to be thrilled. We've got Terry Clark, Hi, Caroline,
She's gonna answer your burning questions.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
So let's see what we got.
Speaker 15 (32:08):
Hey, huge fan, Terry, A few questions. Tell us about
when you got that first big break. Where were you
at mentally, physically and emotionally in your music when you
finally broke through. What did it feel like like when
(32:29):
you were there? Was it something impossible? Did you know
what was going to happen? Would love to hear that story.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I did.
Speaker 15 (32:39):
Tell us about the dream you were chasing when you
came to town, and then also what you left behind
when you did make that move, and how did that
dream change after being in town a few years? What
was your thought process day one versus two years later?
(33:00):
Where were you at? Can't wait to hear thank you?
Speaker 14 (33:04):
Okay, so some of that was entered we talked about
in the episode.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Yeah we did.
Speaker 16 (33:08):
Okay, we did the first big break. And I don't
know this gentleman's name, but whatever your name is, The
first big break felt to me like when I got
my record deal with Mercury in nineteen ninety four, because
I had been in town for eight years playing for tips,
and I waited tables eight years. I bartended. Oh it
took eight years. And I had also done other record
(33:31):
label auditions for many other labels in town, and I
was turned down. I actually was told by one record
label at the time that he said, she may be
the most powerful country music female I have heard, but
not what we're looking for.
Speaker 14 (33:46):
Okay, you're like, okay, scratching my head on that one.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
But there was one reason or another, and I got
it honest.
Speaker 16 (33:54):
Here back in the day, labels had quotas for females,
like they were like, we have three females we haven't
broken yet. We can't sign another one till we either
drop one of these or we break one of the
other ones.
Speaker 14 (34:05):
So you broke in when it was hard to be
a female.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
It was hard.
Speaker 16 (34:08):
It's always been hard. Okay, it's always been hard. Just
because we were getting more airplay in the nineties and
two thousands doesn't mean it wasn't hard to get a
record deal.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
So so my.
Speaker 16 (34:18):
First big break after all of that and hearing a
lot of that for years was Mercury Records. Keith Stega
all heard a demo tape, asked me to come sing
live for him in his studio. I brought my guitar,
sang a few songs, and he was busy working with
some other people and he wasn't at Mercury yet, but
he kept me in the back of his mind. And
six months later I got a phone call and he
was now head of an art Mercury Records, and he said,
(34:41):
I want to sign you as one of my first acts,
but Luke Lewis has to hear you. Can you come
to the office. And I took my guitar into Luke's
office and sat there and I played If I Were
You because I had written that song, and I played
a couple of cover songs, and they called me the next.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Day and for me a record deal.
Speaker 16 (35:00):
And up until that point, I'd had so many tears
shed I remember specifically walking from one meeting where they
said we can't sign you right now, where I had
been banking on that one in tears, walking across the
parking lot.
Speaker 14 (35:14):
Did you want to walk out and just walk back
home to hate it?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Ever?
Speaker 16 (35:17):
Oh, there were plenty of times where I'd considered, I
thought about giving up, but it was a thought.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
It wasn't a reality anyway.
Speaker 16 (35:23):
So nineteen ninety four, when I got my record deal
with Mercury, they called the next day and they said,
we would like to offer you a record deal with
Mercury Record.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
I was just like I could not believe it.
Speaker 16 (35:34):
I was like, I didn't believe it until the ink
was dry on until I signed the contract because I
had been let down so much. So it was a
really celebratory day. It was a lot of heartbreak leading
up to that, so that felt like the big break
for me.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
And I knew if I.
Speaker 16 (35:52):
Could just get a chance, if I could just get
somebody to take a chance on me.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
You're going to show them yes at all exactly. And
look at you now, look at you.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
It's been a.
Speaker 16 (36:01):
Long very it's been. The longevity is the thing I'm
the most proud of. I think that she should be been.
I'm sitting here talking to you that many years later,
and that you want to talk to me.
Speaker 14 (36:11):
You're doing a Terry Clark take two with the biggest
aides and country music.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
It's pretty cool and very very grateful, Yeah, very grateful.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, And let's not forget you're also besties in my world.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
With Dolly. I mean, well, I got my picture with Dolly.
I run it a plane with Dolly and she was hilarious.
Speaker 7 (36:29):
How could she not be She's the greatest human honor.
Speaker 16 (36:31):
Oh, I just I think everybody wants to be Dolly.
I think she should run for president, but we'll get
into that another time.
Speaker 14 (36:37):
I know, I think she's for president. She handles everything
with grace.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
She does.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
She's just she just doesn't say anything wrong everything.
Speaker 16 (36:45):
It's like you hang on every word coming out of
her mouth because it's like she's just full of just
down home wisdom and that's the way it should be.
Speaker 14 (36:52):
Forgetting it so like she doesn't.
Speaker 16 (36:54):
Get all fancy. She just tells it, well, here's the
way it is. And it's like, well, yeah, it is
that way.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
Like you did the Aubrey tribute to her, right.
Speaker 16 (37:02):
Yes, I did nine to five acoustic. Oh oh yeah, god,
it's so much fun, I know.
Speaker 14 (37:08):
And even then her grace with like el King, because
like el King got a little drunk and played it
and I was like, let's give her some grace.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
We've all had a little bit too.
Speaker 16 (37:15):
Much for Elle and I have had some great conversations
with her that night and I had left. By the
time things had had the wheels had kind of come off.
But you know what, I think that everybody's path is different.
I am pulling for her and I think she's going
to be better than ever agreed. I think I've got
I got a good feeling about Sometimes you just need
a catalyst, and I think she's going to be fine.
Speaker 14 (37:37):
Everybody has those moments, and when you're putting yourself on stage,
a lot of people to see them sometimes.
Speaker 16 (37:42):
And forgiveness is uh is something we could all use
a little bit of. And nobody's perfect. So anybody who's
throwing rocks in their glass house needs to not do that.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
He checked it.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
They just haven't been caught yet.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Amen to that. I think we have one more question.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I got one more.
Speaker 14 (38:00):
Oh, do you have any things that you say that
are super Canadian?
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (38:05):
You know, you bet you?
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (38:08):
Geez o?
Speaker 7 (38:09):
Got it sounds more like I'm from Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
He Terry fan here.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
I can't wait to hear you on Caroline's podcast. I
have a little question for you. Out of all the
performances and collaborations you've done, is there one that's most memorable?
And why is that most memorable?
Speaker 6 (38:28):
Oh my goodness, that is a loaded question because I've
done a lot of collaborations and here recently on my
album Take two.
Speaker 14 (38:39):
Wow, I know you really have had too many to
have a favorite. Like your collaborations are epic.
Speaker 16 (38:45):
Okay, but I'm gonna go back and like go back
to like an icon. Well, gosh, I've collaborated with Riba,
that's not it's hard to beat that, Tanya Tucker on Delta.
Speaker 6 (38:56):
Dawn and Emmy Lou Harris.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
It's so crazy.
Speaker 16 (38:59):
From now, I think Tanya Tucker, Emmy Lou Harris and
Riba are the I can't pick just one out of
those three, but because they're so iconic. Yes, and as
much as I love everything on Take two there they
are a lot of newer artists. But gosh, as far
as performance goes, one performance of a collaboration that maybe
(39:21):
not a lot of people are going to be familiar
with it or that of the album is on my
Classic Records, the covers I did Leaven on Your Mind
with Jan Orden and that that version.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Of that song.
Speaker 16 (39:32):
I'm really proud of our vocal performance together on that song.
And Jan Arden's a Canadian icon, not necessarily a country
but she's movie stars, she's a television star, she's a
she's a social media star, and she is a phenomenal songwriter,
singer and entertainer.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
Very very funny and a good friend.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
The life you have lived, very lucky. What a life.
Harry Clark in the house. Thank you so much for
joining me.
Speaker 14 (39:57):
Thank you, Carol on this bonus episode and my podcast.
It is just a thrill and a pleasure and an
honor to be able to sit down with you.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
Well, I'm honored to get to be here. Thank you
so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Okay, we are back with a bonus episode, Call.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Caroline, where we answer your burning questions, and I have
Alex and Drake White here, and actually I'm going to
start off with one question.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I want to know how do y'all keep it hot
in the bedroom.
Speaker 17 (40:31):
I didn't know you're going to ask it.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
I'm being serious. Well, it helps that.
Speaker 18 (40:35):
He's a musician who tours and is gone on the road.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
You so then when he comes home you're ready for it. Yeah,
get it in.
Speaker 18 (40:41):
And then of course he has a beard and you know,
just manly all the things. I'm like, Oh, you're just
the sexiest thing coming in off the road after being
gone for you know so many.
Speaker 17 (40:49):
All right, I'm gonna hold you to that.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
Yeah, no, he's.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Gonna say your sexy thing is home, bebe or if
I'm like, oh those d I don't.
Speaker 17 (40:57):
I don't see how people actually live each each other
three sixty five days a year. Alex is awesome. I
have a great wife, I have a great we have
a great thing in chemistry. But like I was born for,
he's a gypsy for leaving man. And I think it's
so it's so cool, like to come home and to
have somebody to come home to. And I think about
(41:18):
it all the time, like, oh, I can't wait to
get home.
Speaker 7 (41:21):
But then see each other.
Speaker 18 (41:22):
You know, you guys probably need yea, you feel the same.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
It's nice to miss each other.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
Yeah, yeh, it's a good thing.
Speaker 17 (41:27):
Well it's not new. It's not this new thing like
used to a long time ago. And I do this
a lot like back in the old days, like guys
went out on these hunting excursions. And I'm not using
that as an excuse to go out on more hunting excerpts.
Speaker 7 (41:41):
But you're going on tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
You leave tomorrow for a hunting excursions, and I surely.
Speaker 17 (41:45):
We're not supposed to be around each other twenty four
to seven all day, three sixty five, like that absence
is supposed to be a good thing.
Speaker 18 (41:53):
Yeah, And I'm an extroverted introvert, you know, so I
like that a long time too, to kind of recharge.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 18 (41:59):
So it's not okay, good balance, Okay.
Speaker 7 (42:01):
Okay, okay, okay, So the distance keeps it hot.
Speaker 6 (42:05):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
We got some calling questions.
Speaker 19 (42:07):
Right, Hey, what's up, Drake. It's your buddy Michael Hobby,
And I'd like to know how you keep such a
positive attitude and stay so motivated and driven after everything
that you've been through, you know, personally and professionally in
(42:27):
this life.
Speaker 17 (42:29):
Well, I mean it's it goes back to kind of
our interview. I mean, there's nothing I cannot take credit
for that. It's something I get up and I work
out every day. I Mean, I've got a sticky note
on my mirror every every night, every every morning that
I look at that says, you know, think positively thoughts
about think positive thoughts about yourself, Say positive things about yourself.
(42:52):
Say good things are going to happen. Know that people
are for you, not against you, and it will come.
I say we are magnets for all things good. We
do not chase, we attract. Love comes to us easy,
and what is meant to find us will simply find us.
I say that every day, every single day, and it
is a grind, Michael and I don't always do a
(43:17):
good job at it. I feel a lot at being positive.
My brand is positive. You know, what the outside world
sees is positive and what the music reads, a lot
of it reads is positive. But it is a constant
kind of therapy session in my head of what am
(43:37):
I going to do with this thought? What am I
going to do? Is it true?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Is it not?
Speaker 17 (43:42):
And as far as like what I've been through, like
I think it's a superpower to learn how to flip
everything that happens bad for good. So oh I'm I'm
I'm glad I'm going through this because now I'm going
to be a vessel for somebody else to to get
through something. And I've had so many people talk about,
(44:03):
you know, making get through suicidal thoughts because of a song,
and I'm like, are you kidding me? Like that's that's amazing.
So number ones are great, they would be great. I
don't know what it feels like. Michael. Maybe you could
tell me what that feels like. But I think the
bigger thing for me, And I'm not just saying this
(44:24):
because this is a warm and sunshiny thing. It's like
when somebody says that they didn't commit suicide because this
song helped them get through this part of life and
gave them hope. Then that's why I know that I'm
still doing it for the right reasons and I'm still
supposed to do it, you know, And you know that's it.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
And I want to add to that too.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Though your brand is positive, but like your brand is real,
like you don't hold back from sharing the truth of it.
And you probably really struggle with these hard thoughts because
God has really put you through some hard you know.
So it's like you wouldn't be a human if you
weren't struggling. You can't brush over what's happened to you, guys.
You know you have to get in the fire with it.
(45:08):
And I love that your band was called I don't
know if it still is Drake Whit in the Big Fire.
I mean, you've been in the big fire the whole time.
Y'all been in the big fire life. You're not playing small.
So when you get hit, it's hard.
Speaker 17 (45:19):
You know, we're lucky to go through it because I
just think that he gave us these obstacles and these
things because he allowed us to go through them, because
he knows what we'll do with it. And if if
you give me that responsibility, if that's the way you
think of it, man, you gave me that responsibility because
(45:40):
you knew that I would be diligent with you know,
diligent with with showing people towards you with it. Then
I'm we're doing Then. I'm really excited because we've been
through a lot of shit like it's it's it's really hard.
But at the same time, we've got a great group
(46:01):
of people and we've got a great just love for life.
Dang it. I do love it. I love the seventy
five years, ninety two years. Ye, I do love it.
I love being a part of it. I love sunsets
and sunrises and beach houses.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
And let's get a beach house, Alex, do you have
anything you want to add about now, Let's get a
beach house. Let's get ext all the boxes. I love
I love it. I love you guys. You guys are
just the best. Y'all are such a testament to.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
Like faith and perseverance and believing in a dream and
marriage and working through the hard stuff and you know,
just just soldiering on.
Speaker 7 (46:40):
You know, you just keep on, keep on, keeping on,
Host
Caroline Hobby
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