August 15, 2024 • 19 mins
On this week's bonus episode of Get Real with Caroline Hobby, Morgan Huelsman joins Caroline to answer some burning questions! The questions include: If you could be friends with any celebrity, who would it be and why? What's the quickest way to get on your bad side? What's one thing you did as a teenager your parents still don't know?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
At carl Line. She's a queen and talking and.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
She's getting really not afraid to feel as episode and
so just let it flow. No one can do we
quiet car Line, He's sounding Caroline.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm so excited to be here with Morgan Hielsman and
some burning questions. If you listen to the podcast, we've
definitely got into some burning heat there at the end
talking about dating. I'm having a little bit of a
vulnerability hangover.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
So it did great, You're so did so great?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Like it was awesome.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
We were just talking off.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Of the bike. You did you lived a life and
it was awesome.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I lived a life. I lived a life.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Nobody again, I'm never gonna worry or wonder what it's
like out there.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I didn't go like hard all the way, thankfully. I
wasn't someone who was like sleeping around with a bunch
of people. Yeah, but I was trying to make out
and I.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Did making That's fun, So I get it.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
It is fun. Yeah, But you're like living the life.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
I mean you are. We talked about this.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
You have a new podcast that you just launched that
is so exciting. Take this personally, yes, yeah, and it
is so great. You cover all the big questions that
a thirty something year old woman who is now dating
someone man in uniform. We will not mention anything other
than that. But you've been out there. You've been in
the wild West. You've been on the dating apps, which
(01:31):
is terrifying. I thank god they did not exist when
I was out there, and thank god people didn't like
document things.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Oh yeah, everything's documented now. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I mean, you can't mess up out there in the
dating world, can you.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
You know, Caroline, you might have been on like you
know how like there's the Nashville like there's for every city,
there's like a Facebook, like are we dating the same
guy or whatever? If there was a girl, and I
feel like you would have been.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
On it for sure, for sure.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I mean, thank goodness, but it's okay. I would have too,
Like we're in that together.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
You're so You're so cool.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Cool now, don't I became cool after a lot of life,
just like you. So let's get people a hope.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yes, because I'm like having hives reliving my twenties and
thirties in Nashville on the dating scene, trying to date
artists and not they weren't trying to date me, but
I was trying to date them.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
It gave me full blown hives.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
So anyone listening who's out there in the wild West
of dating, it's okay.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
If you don't get it right, you know it's gonna
be clunky. You're gonna make an idiot of yourself.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Your flirt to roast Ratio may totally suck, and you
may just roast like me and suck at flirting, but
you'll figure it out eventually. Just keep on moving forward,
stay in the game, listen to Morgan's podcast, get some
good insight, and it's all gonna be fine.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Right, yeah, and work case now, just take yourself out
on a date. If you don't want to do any
of the dating anymore, just take yourself out to dinner.
You don't have to go on the dates with all
the guys you're like, dang, I'm really tired of this.
That's the secret. Just go out by yourself.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
But I do love how you had one post before
you found your man that you're like doing this and you're.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Like, if anyone tells me to stop looking for a guy,
I'm going to it. Because everyone was like, don't look
for a guy.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Don't look for the one I you know. That's also
really great. It's like, if any of my single friends
come to me, I'm just gonna listen, be like I
hear you, Like I'm not even gonna try and tell
you anything because like I know how that feels, and
you do not want to hear any of this from me,
so like, yeah, you can't. You can't pretend to be
in somebody else's shoes, for sure, but you can empathize
(03:23):
and you can understand. But sure as heck if somebody
is single, do not say you should stop looking, because
I'm promise you that's not how it works, right exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Okay, you're ready for some braining questions. Yeah, it's gonna
be great. Am I just wanted to reach in here,
they're like and grab that break. If you could be
friends with any celebrity?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Who and why?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Ooh?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
And that's good because you have access to a bunch
of celebrities, so you kind of know some things about
them that other people wouldn't. Would you pick a celebrity
that you already know?
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Well, the ones that I want to be friends with,
I kind of am friends with them, like like the
younger artists, like I know Kylie Morgan, Abby Anderson, like
Cole Swindell and I would often be out at bars
and stuff together. I like there was a lot of
them that like, especially when I was going out a
lot and stuff too. We would all hang out. But
(04:17):
so so I would choose them, but they're already kind
of friends in a way. So I would say Ryan
Ynolds and Blake Lively because I'm obsessed with him, and
Ryan Reynolds is just hilarious. Blake Lively is an icon,
and I don't know, I feel like life with him
would be really fun.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, that's why I know.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Can you imagine being on a double date with Taylor
Ship of Travis Kelcey, Ryan Reynolds, and Blake Livery No.
I bet that would be so much fun, so fun.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Throw Gigi and Bradley Cooper in there too.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Oh and if you put Hugh Jackman there too, I'd die.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I love Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
He's amazing.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
He might be the best.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Is he your hall pass?
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Okay, So here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
If I actually had to think about who I want
to actually get down and dirty and nitty griddy with,
I don't think there's anybody out there that I want
to have sex with besides my husband.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
You know that's fair.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I really don't like cause now that I've been married
for so long and I've had so much sex.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I mean, honestly, you know, when you're married.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I love that you guys have healthy sex. I think
that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
But it's just like there is no mystery to me
about what it is. I am not craving it. I
am not like longing for this like lustful notebook.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Moment, like and I know behind every great sex capaide
there's a whole person with problems that you have to
deal with. And like, I am not trying to get
involved with anyone else's life. I finally got my life
sorted out and like I have a very lovely, beautiful,
happy home.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
But like I am not trying to go get involved
with somebody else's mess.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Nothing so fair, you know. Like my version of a
hall pass is like who who you want to get
dinner with?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Like I'd pick a girl, I would have a girl
haul brus not so I don't want to do anything
physical with anyone.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah, but like a dinner with you could have a
dinner with anybody. Just at dinner you go and eat food.
Is that still kind of as physical?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I actually have.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
No physical attraction to anyone else. I've tried to think
about it before. I have tried to fantasize before, not.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Physical like literally going to eat food Caroline, which I
want to like just anything any person in the world
that you could go to dinner with. Like if I
were to say, hal pass for me, I'm thinking, like,
who do I want to go have dinner with?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Not get down at dirty with? No, not.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
At this point in my life is out.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
There, there's diseases, and then people have their problems.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
You have dirtey yes, yes, and like when you actually
get to know someone, Oh my god. Okay, So when
I was dating back in the day too, Okay, you
said dinner, but I'm taking it to the dating and
I would get grossed out by people's mouths, by their ankles,
by the way they talk, Like, oh, ideated this one guy.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
How would you see ankles when you're like on a date.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Well, because they have legs that they with I'm ass.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
And the first thing you see is ankles. Oh yeah,
I have another thing to be afraid of my ankles.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
No. Oh, but it's not like Michael doesn't have this
body that you see it and you're like, oh my god,
that's the set, like that's a GQ model. To me,
it is, but it's like I like his physique, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
It's good for my.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Eyes, Like it's like, oh my eyes like this. But
like this guy had a very fit body, but like
his ankles were just way too small and his mouth
was too small for me. And some people would like that,
but for me, I'm like I couldn't even watch them speak.
Like I was like, I have to get out of
this relationship of media. You had a lot of icks
(07:30):
all over the place. I am it to the core,
like I can get icked out immediately, Like I will
get so icked out, which is crazy because then all
the people that were chasing after who did not want
me probably had the most icks of any of them,
but like.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
They didn't ever want to be with me.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
So I was like, I love it, okay, but if
I could have a date, a friend date with anyone,
who would it be?
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Hmm, someone who doesn't give you ICKX and has great ankles.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Got a lot of problems here, Morgan.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
I'm married. Thank you, Michael loving me, I get back.
I know he's like, what in the world is wrong
with you? Did you like fall.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Off the locker? I bring that out of people, Okay,
I just make people. Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I try to think, Okay, who would you have the
friend day with? Who would you have the friend day with?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Well?
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Why would still me? Like likela, but who would you
want to make out with? I didn't really have one.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
You don't either, No, I really don't not one.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Like I mean, listen, Glenn Powell is very attractive, but
I don't like.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Okay, I don't want an end to him.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
He is He's too smiley for me. That smile is
too big, Like I am like, that is too big
of a smile. He is always just cheating, right, you
have unreasonable I have problems.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
You don't. They're called problems you do, yes, but I
support you.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I don't get the Glenn Poal thing at all. Like,
and people are like, oh my god, he's holding a
pub gun.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
To my head.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
That's probably who I choose right in the past moment.
But like, I just don't have a desire to make
out with random strangers anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I know, accep of a season, yeah passes. I can't
even think of anyone I would want to go to
dinner with, Like, I just want to eat at home,
Pasa in my bed watching So.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Pasla is your date? Pasta would be my date?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Okay, yeah, yeah, honestly this is cheesy, but I just
love hanging out with my daughter.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
She's gonna be like, mom, I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Be associated with you after I heard this podcast, thank
you for picking me as your date, but like, yes,
I would just want to hang out with her.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I like it. That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Okay, I feel like I've just gone off the rails.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Am I doing it again? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Because we need more of this.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Oh, what's the quickest way to get on your bad side? Okay?
Lying like you tell me one lie and I tap
out pretty quickly if I figure out it's a lie,
Like I'm not talking like okay to understanding no no no,
or like you look pretty day. But maybe I don't
like not that kind of lie. I mean, like, if
(10:01):
you like lie about something, my trust is broken. I've
had my trust broken so much that if you do
that now, it's like a you're out cut it loose,
Like just be honest. I think it's really easy to
be honest even when it's hard, instead of like trying
to make applies. So you lie to me and we're
we're gonna have some issues.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
That's fair.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Yeah, that's good. What about you.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Fascinating it on my bad side?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I think to not communicate with me, like I know
for me, I am insane. If anyone has listened to
this episode or the one that we did earlier, you
will see that I actually.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Have stopped talking bad about yourself. You did great.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I have a lot of spinning, wild energy and I
but I also never want to hurt anyone. And I
really do want to have great relationships with people. And
I if I've done something wrong, I want to make
it right. If there's a misunderstanding, I want to correct it.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I want to get on the same page as people.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
So if you just like don't communicate with me, and
you something's gone down and you won't communicate, and then
I can't, like I just can't.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I can't keep trying for you anymore, that's fair.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I think that's a very fair reason to be on
somebody's bad side. Yeah, And I've had that happen.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
A lot actually lately with some close friends. And it's
like it got confusing because there's some very intense things
that happen with life, because as you get older, you know,
like things happen, and like big things happen, you know,
like marriage, children, divorce, job situations, all of it, like
what you're talking about your podcast, and it's like people
respond very differently to all of that and it's very personal.
And I've just run into some communication issues where I'm
(11:35):
sure I wasn't a great communicator either, but I never
had the chance to resolve any of it. And that,
to me, it's like, Okay, I can only try for
so long, and then if you don't want to communicate
with me, then I get it.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
It's just it's still so hard to that's a different
kind of heartbreaking grief as you get older and you
lose people that you're close with because life circumstances don't
fit the relationship anymore. And that's really hard.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
It is hard, as Megan Maronis, just because it's good
doesn't mean it last.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Oh oh yeah, that sounds a good insert quote.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, I've been hanging out of that one because I'm like, man,
that is so true. Should do one more?
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Okay? Am I doing one more?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Do you want to pick one.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Nope.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Oh, I'm just doing this by myself.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Okay, what's the biggest lie? I don't know that. What's
the biggest life you've ever told? I just got done
telling you how I don't like lives, so I don't
I'm gonna pick another one. Okay. I don't feel like
I'm gonna have a good one for that. I'm like
a I have a heart on my sleep credit person.
Everybody knows exactly how I feel all the time. That's good.
I like that about it. Yeah, it has its downsides too, Yeah,
(12:37):
but it's good. What's one thing you did as a
teenager that your parents still don't know about? Oh? La,
law shoot, I mean I snuck out all the time.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
You would like leave your house like I did. I
get a car.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
I broke the window seal when I was sneaking out
one time. I think they figured that out like ten
years later tho, when they were trying to pick something
and they were like, why, then it's working. I was like, oh, yeah,
I definitely broke that. I definitely broke that when I
was stepping my foot because it was funny. The window
of my bedroom had like you know those little things
on the side where they have like the little like
well underneath. It's not like, oh, there's nothing in it,
but it's like empty. And so outside of my window
(13:15):
was as well. So I literally have to like shoot
off the lunch of the window to like get across
it and like jump and sprain my ankle. Was it
you were on a second floor, No, I was on
like a main floor, which just I had to jump
over this big well to like get out of the window.
And when I did that, one of the times, the
wood just and I was like, I'm gonna deal with
that later. Never don't later your parents?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Like what time would you leave?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I've always wondered this, First off, how are you balls
enough to sneak out in the middle of the night,
Like what time are you leaving?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
And where are you going? And how do you know
you're not gonna get caught?
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Well, I was sneaking out probably when I was in
eighth grade.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Eighth, like rand I was worn.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
I was one rebellious too. I had older sisters. I
grew up very quickly, so I had older friends. Did
someonet come get you in a I had friends that
were freshmen, so they were old enough. So it was
like a one year different. So, but they were old
enough to drive.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
They're fifteen, so but not really legally because you gotta
be sixteen.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Well, in Kansas at the time, you could drive at
fifteen if you had all your hours.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Okay, So these freshmen are coming in a lot of
them were.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Coming from smaller town, so really you could drive, especially
coming from the small town. What time would they get you,
like eleven twelve? I mean like on Friday night and
I just got done watching a Disney movie, and like
they kept going to bed and I'd get in. I'm
pretty sure my parents knew every time. I'm pretty positive
they knew every time.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I don't think so, because they would freak out if
you were leaving.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
I'm telling you they were not concerned about me. They
were like, she'll figure it out. And if she's not,
we're gonna get me called from the cops and we're
gonna then she'll really figure it out.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Where would y'all go?
Speaker 5 (14:36):
We went to parties. We went to bar and parties.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
So they're drinking and driving.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
We weren't, like, no, we the person who was always
driving was always sober.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Okay, so you had a GD that's responsible.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah, well we learned that like we we weren't we
were sneaky, we weren't dumb, you know what I mean,
Like we didn't know the right things to do, so
or like we would go and we would stay at
somebody's house and then like at four am, wake up
and drive me back. I can I sneak back in
and oh, wake up at home.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
That's impressive, Morgan.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Yeah, I did get a concussion at one of those
parties that I went to.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
What were you doing?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I fell on a skateboard. How that happened? I thought
it would be a good idea to skateboard inside a
house and I've never skateboarded in my life, and just
backward hit my head on the table, and like there
was like fifteen people around who were like, she can't
be on her back, she can't be on her back,
Like keep her on her side. I had like people
watching me over the night because we couldn't tell our parents.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
You can't take you in the hospital, so you just
pray that it's not so bad.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Yeah, you pulled out of it, and I did. I
was okay, but I had a wicked hangover. I was
and it was funny. I think this is where my
parents figured it out. We had a we had went
to a house and played beer pung and I was
severely hung over the next day, severely because of course
I'm a freaking child drinking beer. No, this is this
(15:53):
has evolved into like freshman sophomore year. This was only
the course of a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
But it goes so pretty darred in eighth grade.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Yeah, I told you, I thought I was twenty. And
I came back and I was like pugging in the
toilet and then I'd like lay and my parents are like,
what's wrong with you? I was like, I think I
ate bad pizza last night. And then like five hours
later they came in. We're like, we know you didn't
eat bad pizza. Like we're not dumb. I'm like, okay,
but like it was really bad, really bad. So I
(16:23):
think they caught on at some point. But yeah, I
got away with a few of them, not all of them,
but few Carl Yeah, good freak.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I mean because now as a mother, I'm like, oh
my god, my heart is like, oh yeah, beating.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
But well, you know here, you I learned a.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Lot of lessons that way, right, you know, And I
had I learned. I had a lot of good memories
from it. And I learned things early, so then when
I got older, when I was in college, I was
like really responsible converting everybody else. Yeah, you're over it,
you're right. Oh, I know how to get over these hangovers.
I know how to go through this. I got this,
So that's anything you got.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I mean, these are like the deep files that I
haven't talked about ever.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
In my life.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
But yeah, I mean I I did. I used to
drink some alcohol in high school. That like what was
the question?
Speaker 5 (17:07):
It was that, what what's one thing you did as
a teenager that your parents still don't know about?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Oh? Yeah, I mean I drank a little bit in
high school. And I definitely don't think my parents ever
knew that, like ever that they knew you ever drink.
I don't think they ever knew I drank because like
I was, Yeah, no, I don't think so, sorry, Mom
and dad.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
It was just how to try it a little bit.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
They thought you were perfect, yeah m hm, but you
weren't perfect.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Oh no, definitely, I mean I was pretty perfect.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
But like when I like as start as rule following
and stuff, but there came a time when like I
got a little curious about alcohol in high school.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
That makes sense. I feel like that's that age that
it happens.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, like on our senior prom when we were like
going in a limo, like people brought alcohol and I
definitely drank it.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
It's not that bad or typical.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
But I do feel like, well, like you know, maybe
your daughter is going to be a little angel, because
you sound like you're an angel.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I'm hoping that Sonny's just gonna grow up around all
of this lifestyle. Like she's already going backstage, like.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
She's watching Black Crow's side stage.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
You know, she's like traveling in buses and vans and
like going seeing festivals and all that.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Oh, she'll be a pro.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Maybe she's not even gonna think it's interesting, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
One can help. Or she's gonna be like you and
think it was really interesting and then want to date it.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
But I didn't know about it. That was the difference.
I thought it was magical.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
It will go either way. Either she'll be so disinterested
because she's had her whole life, or she'll be like,
this is my life, So I'm gonna dive in deeper.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, and I'm gonna be like, Michael, you gotta sit
down and have the hard truth about what it's like
to day and an artists.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
That might be where you have to start telling her
all your stories and be like, this is why this
won't work.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, she just come back and listen to these podcasts
and I'll be like, oh, okay, here we go.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
You're amazing, Morgan. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Thank you for joining us for these burning questions, so
fine for launching your podcast.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
I mean, how are you loving having this podcast out
in the world.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
I yeah, I'm really excited it's finally here. It was
the long, long few years to get it here, and
I'm just really happy it's working.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
On it for years. Really, Yeah, what have you been
working on?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
There's a lot of life happening, a lot of things
that were tied up that we could have release it
quite yet. But now it's here and time has come. Yeah,
it's finally ready to be in the world. So I'm
really trying.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Okay, tell everyone where they can find it, tell us
everything we need to know, rape up with all the details.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Take this personally, you can follow Take this person on Instagram,
you can stream it wherever you get your podcasts. I
heart spofy Apple, Amazon, whatever. Morgan set everything up perfectly
and there's also full YouTube interviews that are up on
web Girl Morgan And Yeah, I think that's all for now.
It might be more later.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
You're amazing, Thank you so much, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I
At carl Line. She's a queen and talking and.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
She's getting really not afraid to feel as episode and
so just let it flow. No one can do we
quiet car Line, He's sounding Caroline.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm so excited to be here with Morgan Hielsman and
some burning questions. If you listen to the podcast, we've
definitely got into some burning heat there at the end
talking about dating. I'm having a little bit of a
vulnerability hangover.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
So it did great, You're so did so great?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Like it was awesome.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
We were just talking off.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Of the bike. You did you lived a life and
it was awesome.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I lived a life. I lived a life.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Nobody again, I'm never gonna worry or wonder what it's
like out there.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I didn't go like hard all the way, thankfully. I
wasn't someone who was like sleeping around with a bunch
of people. Yeah, but I was trying to make out
and I.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Did making That's fun, So I get it.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
It is fun. Yeah, But you're like living the life.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
I mean you are. We talked about this.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
You have a new podcast that you just launched that
is so exciting. Take this personally, yes, yeah, and it
is so great. You cover all the big questions that
a thirty something year old woman who is now dating
someone man in uniform. We will not mention anything other
than that. But you've been out there. You've been in
the wild West. You've been on the dating apps, which
(01:31):
is terrifying. I thank god they did not exist when
I was out there, and thank god people didn't like
document things.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Oh yeah, everything's documented now. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I mean, you can't mess up out there in the
dating world, can you.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
You know, Caroline, you might have been on like you
know how like there's the Nashville like there's for every city,
there's like a Facebook, like are we dating the same
guy or whatever? If there was a girl, and I
feel like you would have been.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
On it for sure, for sure.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I mean, thank goodness, but it's okay. I would have too,
Like we're in that together.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
You're so You're so cool.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Cool now, don't I became cool after a lot of life,
just like you. So let's get people a hope.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yes, because I'm like having hives reliving my twenties and
thirties in Nashville on the dating scene, trying to date
artists and not they weren't trying to date me, but
I was trying to date them.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
It gave me full blown hives.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
So anyone listening who's out there in the wild West
of dating, it's okay.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
If you don't get it right, you know it's gonna
be clunky. You're gonna make an idiot of yourself.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Your flirt to roast Ratio may totally suck, and you
may just roast like me and suck at flirting, but
you'll figure it out eventually. Just keep on moving forward,
stay in the game, listen to Morgan's podcast, get some
good insight, and it's all gonna be fine.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Right, yeah, and work case now, just take yourself out
on a date. If you don't want to do any
of the dating anymore, just take yourself out to dinner.
You don't have to go on the dates with all
the guys you're like, dang, I'm really tired of this.
That's the secret. Just go out by yourself.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
But I do love how you had one post before
you found your man that you're like doing this and you're.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Like, if anyone tells me to stop looking for a guy,
I'm going to it. Because everyone was like, don't look
for a guy.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Don't look for the one I you know. That's also
really great. It's like, if any of my single friends
come to me, I'm just gonna listen, be like I
hear you, Like I'm not even gonna try and tell
you anything because like I know how that feels, and
you do not want to hear any of this from me,
so like, yeah, you can't. You can't pretend to be
in somebody else's shoes, for sure, but you can empathize
(03:23):
and you can understand. But sure as heck if somebody
is single, do not say you should stop looking, because
I'm promise you that's not how it works, right exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Okay, you're ready for some braining questions. Yeah, it's gonna
be great. Am I just wanted to reach in here,
they're like and grab that break. If you could be
friends with any celebrity?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Who and why?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Ooh?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
And that's good because you have access to a bunch
of celebrities, so you kind of know some things about
them that other people wouldn't. Would you pick a celebrity
that you already know?
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Well, the ones that I want to be friends with,
I kind of am friends with them, like like the
younger artists, like I know Kylie Morgan, Abby Anderson, like
Cole Swindell and I would often be out at bars
and stuff together. I like there was a lot of
them that like, especially when I was going out a
lot and stuff too. We would all hang out. But
(04:17):
so so I would choose them, but they're already kind
of friends in a way. So I would say Ryan
Ynolds and Blake Lively because I'm obsessed with him, and
Ryan Reynolds is just hilarious. Blake Lively is an icon,
and I don't know, I feel like life with him
would be really fun.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, that's why I know.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Can you imagine being on a double date with Taylor
Ship of Travis Kelcey, Ryan Reynolds, and Blake Livery No.
I bet that would be so much fun, so fun.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Throw Gigi and Bradley Cooper in there too.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Oh and if you put Hugh Jackman there too, I'd die.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I love Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
He's amazing.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
He might be the best.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Is he your hall pass?
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Okay, So here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
If I actually had to think about who I want
to actually get down and dirty and nitty griddy with,
I don't think there's anybody out there that I want
to have sex with besides my husband.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
You know that's fair.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I really don't like cause now that I've been married
for so long and I've had so much sex.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I mean, honestly, you know, when you're married.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I love that you guys have healthy sex. I think
that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
But it's just like there is no mystery to me
about what it is. I am not craving it. I
am not like longing for this like lustful notebook.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Moment, like and I know behind every great sex capaide
there's a whole person with problems that you have to
deal with. And like, I am not trying to get
involved with anyone else's life. I finally got my life
sorted out and like I have a very lovely, beautiful,
happy home.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
But like I am not trying to go get involved
with somebody else's mess.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Nothing so fair, you know. Like my version of a
hall pass is like who who you want to get
dinner with?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Like I'd pick a girl, I would have a girl
haul brus not so I don't want to do anything
physical with anyone.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah, but like a dinner with you could have a
dinner with anybody. Just at dinner you go and eat food.
Is that still kind of as physical?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I actually have.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
No physical attraction to anyone else. I've tried to think
about it before. I have tried to fantasize before, not.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Physical like literally going to eat food Caroline, which I
want to like just anything any person in the world
that you could go to dinner with. Like if I
were to say, hal pass for me, I'm thinking, like,
who do I want to go have dinner with?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Not get down at dirty with? No, not.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
At this point in my life is out.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
There, there's diseases, and then people have their problems.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
You have dirtey yes, yes, and like when you actually
get to know someone, Oh my god. Okay, So when
I was dating back in the day too, Okay, you
said dinner, but I'm taking it to the dating and
I would get grossed out by people's mouths, by their ankles,
by the way they talk, Like, oh, ideated this one guy.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
How would you see ankles when you're like on a date.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Well, because they have legs that they with I'm ass.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
And the first thing you see is ankles. Oh yeah,
I have another thing to be afraid of my ankles.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
No. Oh, but it's not like Michael doesn't have this
body that you see it and you're like, oh my god,
that's the set, like that's a GQ model. To me,
it is, but it's like I like his physique, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
It's good for my.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Eyes, Like it's like, oh my eyes like this. But
like this guy had a very fit body, but like
his ankles were just way too small and his mouth
was too small for me. And some people would like that,
but for me, I'm like I couldn't even watch them speak.
Like I was like, I have to get out of
this relationship of media. You had a lot of icks
(07:30):
all over the place. I am it to the core,
like I can get icked out immediately, Like I will
get so icked out, which is crazy because then all
the people that were chasing after who did not want
me probably had the most icks of any of them,
but like.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
They didn't ever want to be with me.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
So I was like, I love it, okay, but if
I could have a date, a friend date with anyone,
who would it be?
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Hmm, someone who doesn't give you ICKX and has great ankles.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Got a lot of problems here, Morgan.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
I'm married. Thank you, Michael loving me, I get back.
I know he's like, what in the world is wrong
with you? Did you like fall.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Off the locker? I bring that out of people, Okay,
I just make people. Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I try to think, Okay, who would you have the
friend day with? Who would you have the friend day with?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Well?
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Why would still me? Like likela, but who would you
want to make out with? I didn't really have one.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
You don't either, No, I really don't not one.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Like I mean, listen, Glenn Powell is very attractive, but
I don't like.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Okay, I don't want an end to him.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
He is He's too smiley for me. That smile is
too big, Like I am like, that is too big
of a smile. He is always just cheating, right, you
have unreasonable I have problems.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
You don't. They're called problems you do, yes, but I
support you.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I don't get the Glenn Poal thing at all. Like,
and people are like, oh my god, he's holding a
pub gun.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
To my head.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
That's probably who I choose right in the past moment.
But like, I just don't have a desire to make
out with random strangers anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I know, accep of a season, yeah passes. I can't
even think of anyone I would want to go to
dinner with, Like, I just want to eat at home,
Pasa in my bed watching So.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Pasla is your date? Pasta would be my date?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Okay, yeah, yeah, honestly this is cheesy, but I just
love hanging out with my daughter.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
She's gonna be like, mom, I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Be associated with you after I heard this podcast, thank
you for picking me as your date, but like, yes,
I would just want to hang out with her.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I like it. That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Okay, I feel like I've just gone off the rails.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Am I doing it again? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Because we need more of this.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Oh, what's the quickest way to get on your bad side? Okay?
Lying like you tell me one lie and I tap
out pretty quickly if I figure out it's a lie,
Like I'm not talking like okay to understanding no no no,
or like you look pretty day. But maybe I don't
like not that kind of lie. I mean, like, if
(10:01):
you like lie about something, my trust is broken. I've
had my trust broken so much that if you do
that now, it's like a you're out cut it loose,
Like just be honest. I think it's really easy to
be honest even when it's hard, instead of like trying
to make applies. So you lie to me and we're
we're gonna have some issues.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
That's fair.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Yeah, that's good. What about you.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Fascinating it on my bad side?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I think to not communicate with me, like I know
for me, I am insane. If anyone has listened to
this episode or the one that we did earlier, you
will see that I actually.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Have stopped talking bad about yourself. You did great.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I have a lot of spinning, wild energy and I
but I also never want to hurt anyone. And I
really do want to have great relationships with people. And
I if I've done something wrong, I want to make
it right. If there's a misunderstanding, I want to correct it.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I want to get on the same page as people.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
So if you just like don't communicate with me, and
you something's gone down and you won't communicate, and then
I can't, like I just can't.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I can't keep trying for you anymore, that's fair.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I think that's a very fair reason to be on
somebody's bad side. Yeah, And I've had that happen.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
A lot actually lately with some close friends. And it's
like it got confusing because there's some very intense things
that happen with life, because as you get older, you know,
like things happen, and like big things happen, you know,
like marriage, children, divorce, job situations, all of it, like
what you're talking about your podcast, and it's like people
respond very differently to all of that and it's very personal.
And I've just run into some communication issues where I'm
(11:35):
sure I wasn't a great communicator either, but I never
had the chance to resolve any of it. And that,
to me, it's like, Okay, I can only try for
so long, and then if you don't want to communicate
with me, then I get it.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
It's just it's still so hard to that's a different
kind of heartbreaking grief as you get older and you
lose people that you're close with because life circumstances don't
fit the relationship anymore. And that's really hard.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
It is hard, as Megan Maronis, just because it's good
doesn't mean it last.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Oh oh yeah, that sounds a good insert quote.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, I've been hanging out of that one because I'm like, man,
that is so true. Should do one more?
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Okay? Am I doing one more?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Do you want to pick one.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Nope.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Oh, I'm just doing this by myself.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Okay, what's the biggest lie? I don't know that. What's
the biggest life you've ever told? I just got done
telling you how I don't like lives, so I don't
I'm gonna pick another one. Okay. I don't feel like
I'm gonna have a good one for that. I'm like
a I have a heart on my sleep credit person.
Everybody knows exactly how I feel all the time. That's good.
I like that about it. Yeah, it has its downsides too, Yeah,
(12:37):
but it's good. What's one thing you did as a
teenager that your parents still don't know about? Oh? La,
law shoot, I mean I snuck out all the time.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
You would like leave your house like I did. I
get a car.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
I broke the window seal when I was sneaking out
one time. I think they figured that out like ten
years later tho, when they were trying to pick something
and they were like, why, then it's working. I was like, oh, yeah,
I definitely broke that. I definitely broke that when I
was stepping my foot because it was funny. The window
of my bedroom had like you know those little things
on the side where they have like the little like
well underneath. It's not like, oh, there's nothing in it,
but it's like empty. And so outside of my window
(13:15):
was as well. So I literally have to like shoot
off the lunch of the window to like get across
it and like jump and sprain my ankle. Was it
you were on a second floor, No, I was on
like a main floor, which just I had to jump
over this big well to like get out of the window.
And when I did that, one of the times, the
wood just and I was like, I'm gonna deal with
that later. Never don't later your parents?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Like what time would you leave?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I've always wondered this, First off, how are you balls
enough to sneak out in the middle of the night,
Like what time are you leaving?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
And where are you going? And how do you know
you're not gonna get caught?
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Well, I was sneaking out probably when I was in
eighth grade.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Eighth, like rand I was worn.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
I was one rebellious too. I had older sisters. I
grew up very quickly, so I had older friends. Did
someonet come get you in a I had friends that
were freshmen, so they were old enough. So it was
like a one year different. So, but they were old
enough to drive.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
They're fifteen, so but not really legally because you gotta
be sixteen.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Well, in Kansas at the time, you could drive at
fifteen if you had all your hours.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Okay, So these freshmen are coming in a lot of
them were.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Coming from smaller town, so really you could drive, especially
coming from the small town. What time would they get you,
like eleven twelve? I mean like on Friday night and
I just got done watching a Disney movie, and like
they kept going to bed and I'd get in. I'm
pretty sure my parents knew every time. I'm pretty positive
they knew every time.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I don't think so, because they would freak out if
you were leaving.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
I'm telling you they were not concerned about me. They
were like, she'll figure it out. And if she's not,
we're gonna get me called from the cops and we're
gonna then she'll really figure it out.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Where would y'all go?
Speaker 5 (14:36):
We went to parties. We went to bar and parties.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
So they're drinking and driving.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
We weren't, like, no, we the person who was always
driving was always sober.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Okay, so you had a GD that's responsible.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah, well we learned that like we we weren't we
were sneaky, we weren't dumb, you know what I mean,
Like we didn't know the right things to do, so
or like we would go and we would stay at
somebody's house and then like at four am, wake up
and drive me back. I can I sneak back in
and oh, wake up at home.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
That's impressive, Morgan.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Yeah, I did get a concussion at one of those
parties that I went to.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
What were you doing?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I fell on a skateboard. How that happened? I thought
it would be a good idea to skateboard inside a
house and I've never skateboarded in my life, and just
backward hit my head on the table, and like there
was like fifteen people around who were like, she can't
be on her back, she can't be on her back,
Like keep her on her side. I had like people
watching me over the night because we couldn't tell our parents.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
You can't take you in the hospital, so you just
pray that it's not so bad.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Yeah, you pulled out of it, and I did. I
was okay, but I had a wicked hangover. I was
and it was funny. I think this is where my
parents figured it out. We had a we had went
to a house and played beer pung and I was
severely hung over the next day, severely because of course
I'm a freaking child drinking beer. No, this is this
(15:53):
has evolved into like freshman sophomore year. This was only
the course of a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
But it goes so pretty darred in eighth grade.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Yeah, I told you, I thought I was twenty. And
I came back and I was like pugging in the
toilet and then I'd like lay and my parents are like,
what's wrong with you? I was like, I think I
ate bad pizza last night. And then like five hours
later they came in. We're like, we know you didn't
eat bad pizza. Like we're not dumb. I'm like, okay,
but like it was really bad, really bad. So I
(16:23):
think they caught on at some point. But yeah, I
got away with a few of them, not all of them,
but few Carl Yeah, good freak.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I mean because now as a mother, I'm like, oh
my god, my heart is like, oh yeah, beating.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
But well, you know here, you I learned a.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Lot of lessons that way, right, you know, And I
had I learned. I had a lot of good memories
from it. And I learned things early, so then when
I got older, when I was in college, I was
like really responsible converting everybody else. Yeah, you're over it,
you're right. Oh, I know how to get over these hangovers.
I know how to go through this. I got this,
So that's anything you got.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I mean, these are like the deep files that I
haven't talked about ever.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
In my life.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
But yeah, I mean I I did. I used to
drink some alcohol in high school. That like what was
the question?
Speaker 5 (17:07):
It was that, what what's one thing you did as
a teenager that your parents still don't know about?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Oh? Yeah, I mean I drank a little bit in
high school. And I definitely don't think my parents ever
knew that, like ever that they knew you ever drink.
I don't think they ever knew I drank because like
I was, Yeah, no, I don't think so, sorry, Mom
and dad.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
It was just how to try it a little bit.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
They thought you were perfect, yeah m hm, but you
weren't perfect.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Oh no, definitely, I mean I was pretty perfect.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
But like when I like as start as rule following
and stuff, but there came a time when like I
got a little curious about alcohol in high school.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
That makes sense. I feel like that's that age that
it happens.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, like on our senior prom when we were like
going in a limo, like people brought alcohol and I
definitely drank it.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
It's not that bad or typical.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
But I do feel like, well, like you know, maybe
your daughter is going to be a little angel, because
you sound like you're an angel.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I'm hoping that Sonny's just gonna grow up around all
of this lifestyle. Like she's already going backstage, like.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
She's watching Black Crow's side stage.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
You know, she's like traveling in buses and vans and
like going seeing festivals and all that.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Oh, she'll be a pro.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Maybe she's not even gonna think it's interesting, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
One can help. Or she's gonna be like you and
think it was really interesting and then want to date it.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
But I didn't know about it. That was the difference.
I thought it was magical.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
It will go either way. Either she'll be so disinterested
because she's had her whole life, or she'll be like,
this is my life, So I'm gonna dive in deeper.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, and I'm gonna be like, Michael, you gotta sit
down and have the hard truth about what it's like
to day and an artists.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
That might be where you have to start telling her
all your stories and be like, this is why this
won't work.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, she just come back and listen to these podcasts
and I'll be like, oh, okay, here we go.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
You're amazing, Morgan. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Thank you for joining us for these burning questions, so
fine for launching your podcast.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
I mean, how are you loving having this podcast out
in the world.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
I yeah, I'm really excited it's finally here. It was
the long, long few years to get it here, and
I'm just really happy it's working.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
On it for years. Really, Yeah, what have you been
working on?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
There's a lot of life happening, a lot of things
that were tied up that we could have release it
quite yet. But now it's here and time has come. Yeah,
it's finally ready to be in the world. So I'm
really trying.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Okay, tell everyone where they can find it, tell us
everything we need to know, rape up with all the details.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Take this personally, you can follow Take this person on Instagram,
you can stream it wherever you get your podcasts. I
heart spofy Apple, Amazon, whatever. Morgan set everything up perfectly
and there's also full YouTube interviews that are up on
web Girl Morgan And Yeah, I think that's all for now.
It might be more later.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
You're amazing, Thank you so much, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I
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