MADDIE RICHERT: Inside the Wild World of Modern Dating in Nashville with My 25-Year-Old Neighbor and Content Creator

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
A carryne. She's a queen and talking. So she's getting
really not afraid to feel this episode and so just
let it flow. No one can do week quiet. Carl

(00:24):
Line is so Caroline.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well, Hi Maddie, Hi Caroline. How are you doing? I'm good?
This is exciting.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Why is this exciting, Maddie because I'm on your podcast?
And why does that make you feel excited?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Because I've I've been like helping you with it for
so long? Are you nervous? Yeah, this is my first podcast?
Can you tell them? Yeah, it's okay, you'll get me, Lucinder,
You're gonna be fine.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, so this is your first podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Okay, So what does that feel like going on and
doing your first podcast? Like? Is this the thing? Because
people podcast Now. I've been podcasting for eight years, so
I don't really think about podcasting. But like, if you're
not a podcaster, and you're not like, you know, in
the entertainment industry talking about yourself all the time, which.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
You are in the entertainment industry.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
You have lots of jobs which we'll talk about, yes,
but it's not like you're just like promoting yourself all
the time on podcast. We're talking about things.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
It's it's so weird because like I talk about what
I do to other people, but for on a podcast
is it just feels weird. But I'm excited. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
A lot of people have emotional hangovers oh where they
like share so much and then they call about vulnerability hangovers. Oh,
I know with yours especially, and I love your whole family.
So listen, I'm doing a disclaimer for Bart in April.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
I mean, and Kate and Will and.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Then y'all are fine.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
But I am just gonna ask the questions and Maddie's
gonna tell the answers.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I'm gonna tell the truth. I'm just a vehicle. Okay,
let's do it. Well.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
I think it's very fascinating because I met you probably
how many years ago?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Did you guys move in?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Four years ago?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Twenty? You guys moved in twenty twenty one? Yeah okay,
so yeah, twenty twenty one. It's been four years.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Twenty twenty one, and you and your whole family lived
across the street from us. Yes, literally, God like knew
we needed the Ricords.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, you know, the funniest thing is whenever, So my
mom met you guys first and right when you cently
loved your mom. Right when you guys moved in, it
was like seven am or something, and I remember my
mom walking back into the house because we all lived
at our house together during COVID.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Because y'all are all older kids. So Maddie's twenty five,
your oldest brother Will is twenty seven, twenty seven, Kate
is twenty two, and then Finn was our glorious surprise
at the seventeen.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
He's seventeen. Also side note, he got a perfect score
on his science act and he got so like didn't
get any wrong on his first.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Ac not shocked because Finn has grown up with y'all
three He's a genius hoodlums running wild as older sisters
and brothers, and he has like seen everything, so he's like,
not worry. He's not trying to like do anything wrong
or be your bus He's like, oh, I already been there.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Done that. I'm just gonna be awesome. He's just he's
just our little genius.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
But yeah, so we all lived across the street, and
when you guys moved in, it's like when the neighborhood
kind of became the neighborhood. I yeah, because we didn't
really meet anyone until you Well, I came in like
a freaking college. For those of you who know who
know Caroline, you know that she's not going to just
sit around and not meet anyone.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Well, And I moved into this neighborhood because we had
just had Sonny and I was looking for community. My
whole family lives in Texas and they're awesome, but like,
I didn't have any family here.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
I didn't have any real babysitters.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, I had some mom friends that were all knew,
but I was absolutely being rebirthed as a mother. And
I'm already an emotional wreck as it is. So now
I have this child who I'm in love with and
obsessed with, and I just don't know how to be
a mom, and I'm so scared I'm gonna do everything wrong,
and I don't have anyone that I trust. And here
comes the freaking records. It's right, every prayer was answered.

(04:09):
Your mom at the time was babysitting a three year
a two year old, Yeah, because she was like retired
and like kind of.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I feel like it kind of helped because Sonny and
Emma were like the same.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Exact age, and so every single day April was watching Emma,
I was watching Sonny.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
We would hang out in our backyard every.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Day, and I wear the neighborhood babysitters 'all.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Would come over and your spandex shorts and bras, the
whole record kids, all they wear is underwear outside. Granted,
y'ard all smoking hot, But like, here's Mattie and Kate
walking around on their biking shorts and their sports bras
in the neighborhood and everyone's.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Like, hi, hey, guys.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
And then and then Will does not believe in shirts. No,
and he got all the kids in the neighborhood not
wearing shirts.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
So all the young girls started wearing swimsuit tops and
shorts to match Maddie and Kate. All the kids and
all the little boys would start wearing no shirts to
try to match Will. Yeah, I mean the records influenced
the neighborhood. We're influential, y'all are very influential. And so
here y'all are though, And I'm like April. The first
time I meet April, I'm like running across the streets.
It's seven am basically into her arms.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I'm like, Hi, I'm Carolyn, can you help me? My
mom is walking our dogs and she walks back in
at like seven am and is like, I just met
our new neighbors. I'm like, it's seven am. Oh if
an opportunity was it in hot You, Michael and Sonny
were all out there, I'm like, okay, let's go. But
so that's how I mean, that's how you welcomed everyone.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
And then April would come over every day with Emma
and she would teach me how to be a mom
because she's said it four times.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
And y'all are all cool.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
You were all living at the house like they built
you and Kate a back apartment.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
You'll have this righteous pool.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Will was living in the airstream.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Will was living in the airstreams Finns just going to school,
beboll but around living his best life, so funny, rocking music,
having the best like parties and just like everywhere. And
it was just like, oh my gosh, here's the best
family ever. It was just like to have a family
for me. I'm just speaking from my experience. This is
why God like bless me with y'all. But to have
y'all as this family across the street who could raise

(06:12):
me while I was trying to raise study and then
you and Kate would babiesit all the time. And y'all
didn't have jobs or worn in school at the time,
so y'all are always available. Yeah now you're never available.
Yeah now you have to like book you in advance.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
It's so fun.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
But I could like call y'all last minute, and y'all
could come over within like a five minute warning.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, we got you. We'll be over in two seconds.
No literally, I know. Wow.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
And it was just for me personally, because I've talked
about this on so many of my podcasts, my listeners
y'all won't know this. I just becoming a mom was
the greatest experience of my entire life.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
But it freaking turned me upside down. And I was
so just like I.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Was saying before, so stressed out, so worried. I was
so madly in love with Sonny, and it was like
the greatest thing that ever happened. But I had no
idea what I was doing, and I felt like I
was doing everything wrong and I didn't know how.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
To do anything.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
And then your mom's teaching me how to mom, Can
you feel calm because she's like, oh, don't.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Worry about it.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
April was like my kids, and all the kids turned
out great, and then you and Kate are the best
And I was like babysitters, just like this is the
best dream come true ever.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
And we're still here four years later, even though we
moved away. I'm so mad at Y'allhen y'all gave away.
We were scared to tell you. Well me, I got
mad at your mom. I got mad at April. I
was literally like pissed. No.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
I remember, I was so broken hearted. I know it
happened because I was like, you can't do this to me.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
It's fine, We're here now. It all worked out.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
I probably needed to, you know, expand we all it
was growing pain.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
We needed to realize there's but we did spend a
lot of time together all the time. Yeah, and I
was your intern, you.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Were my intern. I mean, so it's been really fun
to watch you get your wings.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Because all things like all thanks to you. Like I
always say this to people, I'm like, literally without you,
I don't think I would be where I am.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
I'm so happy that I feel that way because I
had people who've done that for me, like Victoria Shaw
shout out, she like totally guided me and like got
me into the business and believed in me. And like
I've had people like that too. Yeah, So like I'm
so happy that you feel that I've been able to
help you.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, makes me feel happy. So I saw this quote
one of my friends Ali, her husband Ja D. Groover.
I don't know if you know him, he's in the industry,
and he posted on his Instagram quote and it was like,
in Nashville, you don't make it alone. Someone hire up,
has to like reach down and pull you up so
that people can see your potential. And that's literally like
what you and Michael have done for me. And like,

(08:34):
I like get emotional thinking about it because I'm like
you guys like ever since, like I was your intern
and then Whiskey jam and then you helped me start
my business, Like you are what sparked me starting my business,
social sparks, social shout out, social stork, which we'll get into,
but no, like genuinely like you have like kind of

(08:56):
been like the what is it like a catalyst or
I don't know, a catalyst A sure, yeah, sure whatever
to like get me to where I am. And so
like I always like think about that. That makes me
feel happy.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, that really makes me feel happy because I'm not
forty one years old. I still feel in my I
feel wise as a forty one year old now, but
like in my actual like life, I feel like I'm
probably like thirty four.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, I mean you don't look a day over twenty one.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Because I barely I've been maturing slowly. It's taken me
a lot longer to catch up. You're doing great, You're
doing great. I've been like always on a healing journal,
on a mental healing journal, and like trying to connect
with my higher power. But like life has been very
overwhelming for me because I have never had a traditional road,
never followed a traditional plan.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
That's why, like I think it was easy for me
to help.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
You because I'm not a traditional girl at all.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
And I can see that you like want this exciting
life and that you have these like gifts and these
sparks to offer the world, and that you're gonna like
go all in and you're gonna put yourself out there
and you're so much fun to be around, like coolest
hang ever, and so your whole family is.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Again you you told me, like to make it in
this industry, you have to be a cool hang.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Was that Michael probably told you that.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
I feel like that's something he would say. I think
it was both of you. I think me and you
and him were talking about it one day.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
But because so much of it is just like existing
and getting to know people and being cool, yeah, and
like doing your work well.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
And it's like a personality to personality, Like no one
wants to work with someone who doesn't have a personality
and can't like and it's to be So it's hard.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
I feel like because this industry, you never know what's
gonna happen, Like it's one giant experiment all the time,
and you don't know how it's gonna go.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, that's what I've experienced the past.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
It makes you super nauseous and like anxious because you
never know where the next thing is gonna come from.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
But it's gonna break.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
You have to have this blinding faith that is so
hard to do. And that's why all of us artistic
people who are doing this entrepreneurial life kind of stick
together because you have to like lean on each other
because or else you'll all feel like you're completely insane.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh no, Like I feel like my mentality over the
past year, I guess year and a half has been
like I'm just gonna let things come to me and
very much like you, like, things are gonna just come
my way, and I'll take the opportunity and see where
it leads. And if it doesn't work out, I'll pivot
goes to the next thing and just do all of
these things at once to to see, like what works.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
That's the best way to do it, because I feel like,
honestly now, at forty one years old, I just started
following my intuition, and I knew I had a general
idea of what I wanted to do, Like I wanted
to be in music, and I wanted to sing, and
I wanted to be seen like I wanted to be
known because I wanted people to like.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Know I existed so I could feel special.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
That goes back to feeling like I needed to find
my worth and all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, So I mean that's a deeper like journey of
the soul for me. But I literally knew I wanted
to be in entertainment, and I just the first thing
I thought of was singing. It's not like I'm the
world's best singer, but like you just start following the
rabbit crumbs and you were there with Parmally When we
interviewed Parmally their episodes coming out next week.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
They're a great band in country music. They had a journey.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Journey Yeah, and they said that you just have to
follow the next shred of hope.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, you have to find and you can't give up,
and you can't give up.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
You have to find the thing that lights you up,
that's in front of you that you can get to,
and then you have to go for that, and then
you have to let that lead you somewhere else, and
you have to freaking trust the whole process.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, yep, that's what I'm doing this.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
I see that in you and I knew you had
that in you.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Okay, yes, go and you strike You know what?

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Really though?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Confirmed it?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Though?

Speaker 2 (12:36):
What?

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Because I knew that you had the drive and the
will and the personality and all the goods that it's
going to take to like live this very hard but
yet awesome life. When you start floating into the abyss.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah literally, I'm just like laa lah. Yeah. Well, I
mean I just am not someone who can sit behind
a desk nine to five. But you followed through.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
That was the thing I noticed, because like when you
first were like, I didn't know if you were just
going to like say I want to do stuff and
then like not do it. Yeah, you know, because like
sometimes people are like I want to do this.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
But then they don't. Actually they don't actually do it.
Actions speak louder than words, and a lot of.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
People don't have the discipline to like continue showing up
for the thing all the time when it's not glamorous. Right,
They're not making a lot of money when it's not
like anything cool necessarily, but it's like it's still a
building block.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
So you like came to me and Michael and you
were asking for help in the industry, and I think
you already have like interviews going with Whiskey Jam.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah. So what happened was when I graduate. I graduated
December of twenty twenty one, and I had gotten an interview,
and that's when I told you, guys. I was like, oh, yeah,
I'm interviewing with Whiskey Jam and you were like, oh
my god, we know Ryan and Ward. Uh, We'll reach
out to them. I'm like, okay, And then that's probably
why I go.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
On this and everyone who doesn't know Whiskey Jam is
kind of like the launching pad in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I feel like it's it's the right of passage for
up and coming artists. They it's like a showcase where
they get to play their original music. And it's kind
of like a lot of industry people come.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
If you're playing Whiskey.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Jam, you have you have gone people have signed deals there,
signed deals, and like you have gone through the initiation
process where you've played all the dive bars, you've played
all the shit shows, you've done all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
If you're playing with Street Jam, you're good.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yeah, you're a great artist.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
And that's like you have like really made it as
far as you can in the club circuit in Nashville.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah, that's like the Holy grid.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
It is.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
It is so much fun. And it was so much
fun to work for Whiskey Jam for the two years
that I did because I met so many people, met
so many You're in the heart of it all all
of it. And it's like even like big stars come
back and play and it's not it's nice because it's
not the corporate side of the music industry. It's more
of like its own thing and like so we were

(14:45):
just kind of like the outliers of the corporate and
we just like were the catch all. So like everyone
whether like just everyone would play and it was so
cool to like be a part of that and learn
from Ward and Ryan.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
And you really wanted to be in the country music industry.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh yeah, Like I went to Belmont because of my
love for country music. Like I was a fangirl, Like.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Why do you just love it so much? I try
to get you to take a picture with Parvaly.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
You act like Maddie actedly, she didn't care. I was like, like,
I need to remember that you love country music so much.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
I'm like, Maddie, come take a picture.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Like what it was. It was so funny because after
the interview, I was taking a photo of Caroline and
Parmally and then Caroline looks at me. She goes, Maddie,
let me get a picture of you with them. I'm like,
I'm like, uh okay.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
I'm gonna start building your collection of you and famous people.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
You gotta have them.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
I mean, if you get a chance to like make
memory with a band that you like, make a memory.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, I guess. But then I was like throwing off card.
I was like, uh okay, I.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Was almost about to throw you out there to see
if you wanted to try to go on a date
with Matt. But I think he's too old for you
because he's single, And I'm like, well, many single But
then I'm like, shut up, Caroline, don't a match.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
I love how you you always try and wing woman me.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
So I don't know many single people anymore.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Anyone that's single. Caroline's immediately like, oh my god, Maddie.
I'm like, okay, well, you're just such a catch. Anyone
would be still lucky to have you.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
But at the same time, I don't want you to
get like lost on like somebody who's like in the trenches, you.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Know, Like get someone who has a plan and a clue.
Oh for sure, someone has the same mindset that you
don't have to raise.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, yeah, it's okay if you have to, like if
you help each other out, you know, and like support
each other, but like, get someone who's got momentum going.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Oh for sure, that's what I'm looking for. Yeah, so
what is dating?

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Like?

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Oh, here we go, because I haven't dated in forever.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
When I was dating, there was no apps, we had
what's happening?

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Oh we need to pause? Is it on that one?
Don't worry about that one. See this is social spark her.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
What is your company called? Social media company?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
So she's doing social media while we're recording the interview.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Don't worry about that one.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Just for this, Yeah, boss, tell us, right, did you
just run your empire while we're podcasting?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
That's right, I brought my little helper. Dating in Nashville
is horrible. Oh there's no other word for it. It's like, it's.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Just tell me how bad it is? What is it like?

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Because like I thought it was bad when I was
dating and I was a terrible dater.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I was the world a good dater. I'm I would
say I've gotten to the point of being a good.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Dater because I was a bad dat I want to
hear how you date, because like I would date where
That's why haply reason I don't drink anymore.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Alcohol is not good for me.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
I would have to get hammered to go on a
date because I was so insecure to talk to anyone.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
You're very mature. You're you're a mature young woman.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
That's right. How do you date? Okay, So a lot
of the dating in Nashville, a guy will say that
he's like super into you and like looking forward to
seeing you after? Like, is this not an app that
you're talking to these people? So I've been on a
few dating apps and like, which ones do you like?
Which ones are decent?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Do I?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Like? I don't like any of them?

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Grinder, Tender?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Why would it be on Grinder?

Speaker 4 (18:03):
How would I know? What you grinders for hookups?

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Right?

Speaker 2 (18:08):
It's like, why is everyone.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's like for gay guys, just for gay guys? Yeah
only yeah, like no one else goes on there? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Really?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah, I think things have evolved. I think you used
to be able to go and Grinder if you weren't
a gay guy.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Well, are you talking about Tender? I don't know, Okay,
Tender is like the bad hookup on Tinder was that
the first one I did? The first one for.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
One second, they just had come out. It was probably
Tender And then Michael.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
And I got back together eloped and it was like
I tried it for like maybe I had like one
month to try.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah no, no, not Grinder. Okay, so not Grinder. There's
bumble hinge.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Bumble's decent, right?

Speaker 3 (18:43):
No? I why don't we like what are the kind
of Oh? Tell me the kind of people on each
dating app?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
What is Bumble?

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Like?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Who's on Bumble Bumble? It's like it is kind of hookuppy.
But I mean at the end of the day, all
of them are hookuppy.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
But what is like the type of person that's going
to be if you're drawn to Bumble? Like, what kind
of person you're looking for a hook up? Where are
you looking for a boyfriend?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I feel like the most boyfriend e one is Hinge,
but Hinge it still sucks. It's still what about Raya
Raya Riya. That's like you have to be like approved
and then it's like twenty five dollars a month. I
mean worth it if you're looking for your husband. But
it shows you people like in other countries. Oh so it's.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
My hair dresser used to be on that and she
would show me some hot guys.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, I've been on that, but it's like it just
I never understood how to work it, to be honest,
what are you going to do?

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Why do I London and start a relationship?

Speaker 3 (19:33):
You know?

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:33):
I mean maybe that wouldn't be that would kind of
be okay, British boy, So is everyone on these apps?

Speaker 2 (19:39):
So you're in hand right now? No? I mean you
get to take breaks from hinge. Oh yeah, I haven't.
I haven't had hinge in probably a month.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
So this is a long time. Are we just are
we not wanting to date people? Will you flirt with
people on hinge? Is it kind of fun to flirt?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Okay? So I genuinely am at the point where I mean,
I've been single for two years.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
I'm at the point I mean, like not even kissing anyone.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Oh no, like you're still are you.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Hooking up with people? Sorry, April and Bart.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm focused on training.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Right and haven't kissed anyone in two years? Yes, so
we're still kissing, yes of course.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Okay, okay, okay, you're talking about you haven't had a boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah. So I haven't had like a relationship with, like
a full on relationship with someone in two years. And
it's I'm at the point this year when I stopped
touring because I was on the road with Sarah Evans
last year.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
And that's another thing, just to circle back to why
so many things I was so excited to like see
you take the reins when we like helped you get
in the door, but you like took the reins because
you actually do it all and you're you're you want
to do it and then you're falling through and you're
doing it and you're on tourist here Evans, we.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Have like merch. Yeah, I was doing Last year was
actually the most chaotic year of my life. I did well.
What happened is how I started my business was Caroline
was like, I need some help with content. Do you
know anyone? And I was like, well, like I want
to do that, but like I'm working full time for
Whiskey Jam, Like I can't do all of this. And
then my old professor from Belmont, Alex shout out Alex

(21:06):
and Luke at future shirts. He uh texted me was like, hey,
I might have a road opportunity because I graduated from
Belmont wanting to go on the road. Yes, that was
remember that you wanted to go on there. That was
like my dream and you wanted to be on the
tour and the right and I got the Whiskey Jam
job and I was like, well, I can't pass this up.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
And that was also kind of a goal too, because
you wanted to be in the middle.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Right, and like Whiskey Jam was like a dream it's
the It is like right out of school, Like I
couldn't have asked for a better. That is such a
cool job. Yeah, I mean that is so cool for sure.
And so you texted me, and then my old professor
texted me and I was like, hmm, like I could work.
I could make this work, like okay, And so then

(21:50):
I was talking to my dad, who is an entrepreneur, and.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
We gotta love Bart because Bart is just like every
time I'm with Bart, he's got the best attitude.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Oh, he's the most positive, believe in it. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Have I've seen him already with two different like entrepreneurs stuff,
and it's yeah, he's he's just going for it and
it's always just like an adventure and he's attitude about it,
attitude like you've learned from the best.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Right, And like I thank my dad and my mom.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
And your mom is like his best companion because she's
obsessed with each other. I mean, they're the cutest couple
in the world, so fun and they're just like a
great team.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah they are. But I was talking to my dad
about it and I was like, Okay, I want to
do with these like couple of things. And he's like, well,
why don't you just like make a business, Like Okay, sure,
I don't know the first thing about starting a business,
but yeah, And so it's funny because I would have
never thought about starting my own business. And so last
February twenty twenty four, I started social Spark. I was

(22:43):
just liked, I.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Love this because you're like, well, I want to do
social media and then you're like, shit, I'm just gonna
start my own.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Right, and then you do it. I'm just like, whatever,
let me quit my steady end code. And you'll also
take a risk on yourself. Yeah, so many people won't
do it. Yeah, you go.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
I think I'm gonna quit Whiskey Jam. And I'm like, what,
you just started Whisky Jam.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
You're like what, Well, I was with him for two years,
I know, but I'm still like you was not that crazyazy.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
In my head, I was thinking, like, girl, I've kind
of been watching you as an experiment because like, I
love you so much. But also it's like, okay, you're
gonna like be ballsy and you're gonna quit your job
at Whiskey Jam. That's such a cool job and so
great for like your time of life and your age
and all that and.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Then you're gonna like go out and start your own business.
Like yeah, I was just like, I guess I'm gonna
figure out, like financially what I can do. And then
it was nice having touring like as like a part
time job because Sarah's schedule was more hard living your
dream there, right, So, like, and I started living alone
for the first time last year, was that scary? It

(23:41):
wasn't scary. I mean I was gone a lot last year,
so it didn't really feel like I was living alone
until this year when I decided to stop touring. Why'd
you decide to stop touring? I decided to stop touring
because I just my priorities have kind of shifted in
my life.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Touring is no joke. And anyone will know this. I mean,
Sarah knows this.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
You're touring first, Sara, and like me when I was
n A banned Michael and Evan, anyone who tours.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's exhausted. It's exhausting.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, and it is like you have I'm not saying
you're not built for it, but if you're gonna do
it for a long time, right, you have got to
be built for it because it is a whole different
way to live.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Right, And for me, it was like I wasn't in
the band. I'm not trying to tour as my career, right,
Like I have my business and it was more of
like a part time thing. And I was like, okay,
like I can either continue touring, keep my business apart
time thing, or just take to leave and go full
in on my business.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
And do you just believe in yourself so much when
you get an idea.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, I'm just like, may as well try it, But.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Like what if it failed and you've lost all your money?

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Well, I mean I'm definitely in the period where I'm like, okay,
like let's get some more clients. But this week has
actually been a huge week for my business. Like I've
got verbal confirmations for like two new clients, have some
cool things in the works, so I'm like it's starting
to like look up. But I'm like it's a it's
like a steady incline, Like I'm very much trying to

(25:04):
just like build a good base and then get clients.
And it's just weird because like I work for myself
and no one is telling me what to do, and
I'm just like in the middle of the day I'm like,
why am I doing this on a Tuesday at eleven am,
Like what, Like I feel like do I need to

(25:24):
be doing more? I will always have like the in
my back in the back of my mind, like what
am I doing with my life? And like why am
I doing this? Like I could get a full time
job and be like steady income. But then that day,
at the end of the day, I'm like, Okay, I
get to make my own schedule.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
I you're living all your dreams.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, I have some great clients and I'm just living
my twenty five year old life in Nashville as someone
who owns their own business.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
And but good for you for saying I want to
go for it. This is what I like love to
talk about on the podcast because I feel like, ultimately,
at the end of the day, we all have these
little guiding lights in our hearts that are pushing us
to do something. It's like, you know your sister Kate,
she loves fitness and you love fitness, but she like
loves it and she's like push your.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
It's her life.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
She's pushed herself to work at the gym. Now it's
like leading to more things. And it's like when you
have loved. You knew you want to be in country music,
you knew you wanted to be on the road, you
knew you wanted to do content. When you just feel
that like tug and that pull towards something and you
know that you could do a great job, you know
that it would be such a wonderful experience, You know

(26:32):
that your like life and your heart wants to have
that experience. And then you deny it and you go
do like a shit job where you like make shit
money and like you hate what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
It's just it. You can see the misery that it brings.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Not that this life brings like it doesn't bring stability
or anything, but it brings you the whole joy of
getting to experience what your heart wants.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
To experience, right and Like, as a single twenty five
year old in Nashville, I feel like it is like
the perfect thing for me at this moment because I
get to like live my life and go out and
meet these cool people that I've like would have never
even imagined meeting, and just like being able to be

(27:15):
in different places at once and do different things and
just try it all and figure out like what I
want to do like I work part time at a
fitness studio, Like it's just doing all the things to
figure out. I kind of like just let God and
my life just like take me where.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
That's the way to do it.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
You asked me a couple weeks ago, You're like, are
you ever stressed? I'm like I am, but it's like
I know everything will work out because I have that mindset,
like I've gotten over the thing, the mindset that it's
like I'm gonna fail.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
That's awesome that twenty five you already gotten over that mindset.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I'm just congratulations. Just like, let things flow, Let God
bring into my life whatever he wants to bring, Like,
I'll get through it. And even that, like even that
way with dating, like I'm to the point where I.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Are you thinking and someone who's twenty five, is it
all consuming? Like I want to fall in love, I
want to get married.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
It was, I will say a couple of months ago
it was. But now like honestly, the beginning of this year,
when I decided to go full time on Social Spark
and quit touring, I was just like, oh, and I
decided to start training for the fitness competition high Rocks Great.

(28:28):
Thank you. I mean, right, I hurt my leg and
I can't run for a week, so that's great, but
it's fine. So like once I started like focusing on that,
I feel like my mindset kind of shifted with dating
and being like, okay, like I'm done searching. If someone
is going to come into my life, they're just going
like God's going to put them in my life totally
at the right time, and I'm not going to be

(28:51):
searching for them. Like and also I know how I
should be treated and I know that I can't say
the wrong thing to the right person. Woo.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Something has some emotional maturity going on. I mean I
did we get that kind of confidence.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
I feel like I had like this weird mind like
this the beginning of this year.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
I swear I need to be twenty five and to
feel that way that is so empowering.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
I just have way too much, like I know what
I can give someone, and I have way too much
going on to like think about that. It's settle and
to settle. I've just had so many like weird dating
stories and I'm just like over it all.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Please tell me some of your weirdest dating stories, Like
you have to share what's the one that made you
want to die?

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Okay? I actually want to get your opinion on this
on if I was in the wrong or the guy
was in the wrong. Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Also, let me prefaced I was the world's worst dater.
But sure, I'll give you my opinion.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Okay, Okay. So honestly, was that the beginning of this year.
I went on a double date with one of my
friends with the guy she was seeing, and he brought
a friend. Okay, so she brought a friend, he brought
a friend. Y'all didn't know each other, no, okay. So
we go and get drinks one night, and then the
guy like we ended up like you know, vibing or whatever.
He ended up getting my number, like did you like him?

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Like him?

Speaker 2 (30:08):
And you're like, oh, you're just like oh, I would
go on a date with him, like okay, okay. So
that was a Wednesday night, and then he didn't text
me until Sunday. Okay, y'all made a plan. No, not yet.
So he texted me Sunday and was like, hey, like,
do you want to go get dinner this week? I
was like sure. He's like, okay, how about Wednesday?

Speaker 4 (30:26):
But he got your number after y'all hung out on
what day?

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Wednesday? So he waited till Sunday. So Thursday, Friday, Saturday
went by. Okay, that's not terrible. So how he liked
a little sooner, right, I mean like you get my number,
like okay, immediate text? Well maybe like maybe not immediate,
maybe the next day or the next morning.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah. So he was like, okay, how about Wednesday, let's
go to dinner. I said, okay, great. Well that was
the end of the conversation. I didn't hear from him Monday,
didn't hear from him Tuesday, he said, let's go to
dinner on Wednesday, so he texted you. So he texted
you on Sunday, and now he asked you to dinner
on Wednesday. Don't make a time and a place? Yes,
So you picked a time in a place yes, okay.

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So he said, okay, let's go to dinner Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Here's the time.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Here's this. Well, in my mind, a guy is supposed
to follow up. Yeah right, I would want one more text,
so like either Tuesday it's like hey looking forward to
seeing you tomorrow night or Wednesday morning being like hey
see you tonight. Yeah. Yeah, I would have to follow
up for sure. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I don't get a
text until the time of the date, and he's like, hey,

(31:27):
am at the bar? Do you want to drink? And
meanwhile I'm texting all my friends. I'm like, do I go?
Do I show up? How far away were you from
the bar? Like ten minutes? I mean I would have
showed up.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Okay, but listen to that just for the mystery, because
I would have been already kind of a little upset.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
He didn't text, but I'm like, well shit, he texted,
I'm gonna just.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Go okay, but just wait for this. So he texted me,
and I'm like texting like literally six of my friends.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Were you ready? Like were you already ready for the date?

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Just okay? Oh so you went hard and not going? No,
I wasn't even he's not going to follow up with me, like, no,
I don't have time for this. Just in case you weren't.
What if I had forgotten?

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Okay, did twenty five year old girls forget a date
they're kind of excited about.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
I wouldn't I was excited or not? Okay, Well, I
would have never forgotten. Okay, I was very well. I
honestly forgot about it until Wednesday morning. I was like, oh,
but like, he hasn't texted me. Okay, So gets to
the time of date, He's like, hey, at the bar,
do you want to drink? And I was like, I
texted him. I was like asking my friends, like what
do I do? What do I show up?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Like?

Speaker 2 (32:21):
What do I do? And so I ended up texting him.
I'm like, oh, like, I thought this wasn't happening because
I haven't heard from you. He goes. His response is,
oh my bee, laughy face, laughy face, and that's it.
Did you ever talk again? I didn't respond, y'all just
weren't meant to be. If he if he had been like, oh, like,
I'm so sorry, Like, yeah, I probably would have gone.

(32:43):
But he was like, oh my bee, Yeah that's lame.
Yeah yeah, And like, am I in the wrong for
not showing me? Is my lip bleeding? No? I just
keep picking my lip? No was.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
No, no, No, you're not in the wrong for not going.
And I just don't think you're an energy match because
he's not giving enough.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
That's another thing. I need someone to match my energy.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah, he needs to be a little bit more like
get engaged with it, like he knows that you're the
prize and he needs to Like I'm not saying like
you got.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
To play it cool, but he should put.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
A little bit more energy into And I like, that's
not my husband. If he's gonna tell me.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
No, no, no, no, you saved yourself some trouble. Yeah,
I mean I would have gone.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Because, like I said, for I was a terrible dater
back then and I was that cool.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
You definitely would.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
I would have just had to go because I couldn't
have standed it. Yeah, but or stood it, geez, help
me speak.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
I couldn't have stayed like oh my gosh, like what
if he is my husband?

Speaker 3 (33:33):
I would have just had this unwavering hope that maybe
could have been a miracle.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
But I think your instincts are totally right and he's
not your husband.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
I was just like no. And so after that, like
I feel like I've just been like thinking about what
I want and a guy, and what do you want?
Let's talk about it. What do we need? Give me
the top the top.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Just for anyone listening who might want to or light died, who.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Might want to put in an application for Maddie.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
It's Okay, there's another light right there.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Okay, look, you just we wanted to show you how
Maddie does her job in the middle of this interview,
what she does because we're promoting social spark. We've got
some great box lights going on here. Olivia's gonna change it.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
Up here, let me see it.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
There was like that way back in business.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
You might just want to set it up somewhere. It
might not go on that one.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Okay, but so Maddie just this is all in case
you're wondering if Maddie does this what she does runs
content creation, just handles it all.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Thank you, Olivia. Olivia's just holding it, Thank you, Olivia.
Or on the desk or something, or.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
You can push that little stool up and maybe put
it on the stool. Oh, we have anything you want.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah, So we had a little light change during this.
We want to change the scene the ambiance. Yes, now
we're getting more intimate here, so it's lower the lights,
you know.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Oh yes, so how does that look? You can you
can turn the brightness down.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
I also went to yoga and I could smell. I
was gonna like try to like do myself up a
little bit. But then I was like, no, you're coming in.
We're gonna talk about your real life.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
I just got out of here. We're getting real.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yes, okay, can I tell you what I did at
the trampoline park today?

Speaker 3 (35:27):
What so sunny? And I went to the trampoline park
and about some friend A friend Kara and live there
who I love, and I was like, care showed up
and she had her trampoline socks on and I was like, oh,
are we jumping and she's like, yeah, I'm jumping.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
I'm like, oh, okay, I'm gonna jump.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Every time I go to the trampoline part, I almost
kill myself, Like the I just went recently and I
was swinging from the trapeze with you're supposed to have
an attendant there, yeah, And I just was like, oh,
I'm just gonna swing with some trappees.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
I don't need an attendant here.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
And I grabbed the trapeze and then you're supposed to drop,
but I said I swing back because I was like, oh,
let me get one good push off, and like really
launched myself.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Didn't hit the wall with my foot.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Instead, I hit the wall with my freaking tailbone and back,
and I thought I broke my back slash paralyzed myself,
could barely walk, hurt my tailbone. For like two and
a half weeks, I was like, oh my god. So
we're back at the trampoline park again, and I got
my socks on carriage jumping.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
I'm like, we're doing this.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
I'm feeling like, Oh, I'm twenty five. My body feels good.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
I do hot yoga.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
I'm loose as a goose, like, I'm gonna do some backflips,
I'm gonna do some jumps, some straddles. I was doing
this obstacle course where you jump over a beam thing
into another into another, and I like just like lost
my footing and I hit the beam and my neck
like jerked.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Into the top of my eyes.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Today and I feel like I have whiplat slash slash,
spine slash spats slash, Like.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
My neck got so cramped and I'm like, literally every
time I go.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
To the jump park, you just need to not do that.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
But I can't not do it.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
I gotta live. Maddie, you have like fomo if you
don't do something like and my.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Body wants to fly, we want.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
You were born to fly. I was born to fly. Sarah,
thank you so much. Yeah, so anyway, that was my
doin sorry by.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Staying, don't do that again.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Okay, well I'm going to Okay, next time I go,
I'm gonna jump again.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
There's no stopping Caroline Hobby. I'll just go to the chiropractor.
Shout out Exodus and Brentwood. Love them so much. So funny. Okay,
So where were we talking? We're talking about talking about dating.
What am I looking Oh?

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yes, what are we looking for?

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Okay? So I'm looking for I really need a good
communicator because I am a really good communicator and I
don't think that my husband won't be a good communicator. Yeah,
like I I don't know. I agree, And I need
someone who like wants obviously a family, and I need

(37:40):
someone almost like I need someone better than me. I
need someone to be able to motivate me even though
I'm like super motivated. I want someone who is just
as motivated or a little more so that they can
keep pushing, keep pushing me, and keep challenging me, because
I mean, I don't want my husband to be like,
oh my gosh, like you're doing a great job, like
I wish I could do, Like what you're doing or

(38:00):
like it's so impressive and like.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
You want to be impressed with them right exactly and
to be motivated within yourself to hear.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
And someone to support what I'm doing because what I'm
doing is not really traditional and I kind of want
someone who's the same way, who's like an entrepreneurial mind
and that kind of stuff, because they would know how
my brain works and they like get it. So that

(38:26):
someone who like obviously loves the Lord and honestly can
handle my family.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Well, listen, somebody is not gonna have to handle your
family because the right person is going to love your family, right.
Your family is so awesome And if they can't handle
your family, though.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Then I might reconsider y'all have a family. That's so cool.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
If someone doesn't like your family, it's such a great family.
They're gonna love your family.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I think people will.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
You'll have all the dynamics and all the possibilities, but
that's what makes it awesome.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, I feel like my family is very like not judgmental,
but we know our standards well, and y'all going to
keep that ship tight, like you're not just in And
I think I genuinely think a lot of the guys
that I've like been on a couple of dates with
are intimidated by that. If they don't have that family life,

(39:15):
then they don't understand it, and they're like why are
you so close with your siblings? Or like why are
you talking to your mom about this kind of stuff?
Or you know that, you know what I mean. Like
my family's like my best friends. Like my sister is
like my best friend, you know, yes, and my brothers
are my best friends too. So it's like we're all
doing a relay at one of the fitness competitions, all

(39:37):
of me and my siblings. We're like that close. Like
I love it.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
That's why I'm like bart and April need to write
a book because like I love how y'all's family so
close yeah, and likes as grown kids each other, Like
we all still like hang out like we your parents
love your parents.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, Like I was just at lunch with my parents
and Kate, you know what I feel Like y'all's family
allows all y'all to be yourself, oh for sure. And
that's like one of my parents's biggest things. Like raising
us is like they were very good about letting us,
like Chase our dreams and like you know, not letting
let people tell us no, or they've always been super

(40:15):
motivating and like wanting us to keep going with what
we're passionate about. And and y'all don't hide parts of
your personality. No, I'm not saying you share every detail
with your parents and family, but like y'all are very
honest about like the good, the bad, the others. We're
so honest. Like y'all have family meetings discussed. If one
of us is like in the like the wrong path,

(40:37):
we will be like family meeting this day, whether you're
there or not, you'll zoom in and like there have
been multiple times where like I remember, but I love it. Yeah,
there was like like Kate was studying abroad a couple
summers ago and she was like running low on money
and she was asking me in will for money and
we we had to call a family meeting because her
spending habits. We were like, this is oh, yeah, it's

(40:59):
not like talking shit, and you know when a family
meeting is about you, you know, And so literally that
is exactly what happened with my ex. I was like
talking to him again. My brother found out, told my
parents and we were about to have a family meeting,
and I was like, shoot, I gotta cut this off now. No,
you did not cut it off before the family, so
the family family may get canceled. The family meeting. We

(41:20):
got to it and I was like, oh, yeah, that's
that's done. Like that's I took care of that. We're good.
I like, I I was like so scared. They were
like gonna like come after.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Me, Like what do you think they would have said,
like he's not good enough?

Speaker 2 (41:32):
What are you doing? Like why would you go back
to a relationship like all this stuff. I was like, guys,
it's done. I was like, don't worry about it. It's
all good.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
I love that because they let you be y'all all
can go do your life. But if you go too far,
you start to stray that last sheep, we're gonna go
get our a little hook and we're gonna bring.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
You back in. And everyone knows, Like if anyone's like
dating I mean me and all my siblings are single,
but if someone's dating one of us, like you date all,
you date all and you understand that, like we have
family meeting.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
I think that is so healthy, Like because you're not
trying to change the one the courses and was life
that they shouldn't be on. But like you're like if
you're going down the dark the you know, the wrong path. Yeah,
like we gotta we gotta savor.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah. And it's so funny because we go through so
much together, like as a family. I mean I could
bring this up mouth. Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna be mad,
You're gonna be upset that I brought us up. Oh no, uh,
we literally we go through everything, including Sonny giving us
handfoot mouth never forget.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Well, the thing is about handfoot mouth is adults are
not supposed to get it.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Unless okay, apparently you're not supposed to get it unless
you have never gotten it before as.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
A child, evergotten it before?

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Oh maybe I did. I just didn't know. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
So, but were y'all like owning friends, Like y'all could
have hated us for that.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
For those listening, it was twenty twenty two, twenty twenty one.
Then they had just started like, so Sonny precious thing,
how much she loves Sonny. We love Sonny so much.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
She was just starting to get all the virus.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, you get them all. Yeah. So my little brother Finn,
he held Sonny's hand. I guess she was starting to
get because it's contagious without even knowing you have it.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yeah, you get for anyone listening, you get little bumps.
It usually it's pretty mild on your hand. Her kids,
it's very mild. It was.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
It. Yeah, So she held Fin's so she held Finn's hand.
Next thing, you know, Finn has like this rash all
over his face. His the bottom of his foot is
falling off, like the whole skin. Yeah, he had like
this big pad of skin and just on his nightstand.
We're like, it's just the bottom of his foot. Did
it hurt to walk? Yes? And then you were like
all over his face, like all over her his butt.

(43:43):
I just remember though, Okay, I think Will got it. No,
Hey got it the worst, okay. So then so so
Finn got it, and then Will got it. Will was
living in the airstream in our backyard, and Will's like
scratching his scalp, like his scalp was shedding everywhere.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
I remember seeing We'll walk out and he was topless,
of course, and he had it all over his chest
and his head and his all.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
It's contagious. For like two weeks after the rash has
gone too. It's terrible. So it was like Ben had
it for two weeks, then Will got it for two weeks,
and then well I got it. All I remember is mad.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
He was like, I'm not getting hamd but mouth and
I am not getting it on my face.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
And so whenever I got it, I had it in
my throat and I had it on my fingers like
it was just like blisters. And I wore gloves your
hamorhead with your gloves like your Audrey headburn. I face
it looked like a disaster. And I remember there's a
I took a selfie of me in my room because
my mom would just like set food on the thing

(44:40):
because you didn't want to touch us or talk to us.
So we would like come down and grab our food
and go back to our room. And I was wearing
gloves in my room and I would like refuse to
take them off and touch my face. Did you get
it on your face?

Speaker 3 (44:53):
No?

Speaker 2 (44:53):
It worked, but then you're like, I am not getting
this on my face. No, literally, And so then after
I got it, we thought Kate was in the clear.
We thought everyone was in the clear. Poor Kate. No, Kate,
tell me pictures. It took Kate down. It looked like
it looked like Kate had horrible acne, like and she
got like boils, yeah, all over her face, like she
like literally would not let people look at her face.

(45:15):
She could have never forgived us for that. Yeah, well,
it was just so funny because it was like the
whole neighborhood starting getting it too.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
We passed it around.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, that was a horrible time. But that is the
worst thing. Even gave her room now and it's the
worst pain because you can't do anything about it. You
have to put this cream on and it's just like
you're stinging. Like it's horrible.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
All four, all four of us, It's just tell me
what y'all were thinking about the hobbies at that time.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
We were like, well, obviously we were like we love y'all,
but at the same time, we hate y'all. We were like,
what are like, We're like, we're like, no more touching
Sonny's hands, but no. And then I remember you guys
got us gifts and stuff. You literally brought me like
a candle or something. I apologizing you felt so bad.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Yeah, well, y'all had it so but.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
I did feel it was like a month we were
out and mean, y'all all just were so hit by it. Yeah,
and it was terrible. I just will never forget you
walking around the neighborhood with like black gloves on in
your hands.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Oh. I remember, you guys were all sitting around the
fire in our backyard and I came out there and
Mom was like, stay away, and I was just like
in the corner. And I was literally sitting in the
corner of my like the pool area, just watching you.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Guys, like staring us down with Hayt and right.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
I was like, well, I feel so much fomo because
you guys were all hanging out and I was like, well,
I can't hang out.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
And they're the reason I have this problem.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
I'm like, okay, I'm going to give it to them.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
I'm gonna have you go to a therapy session over
this and work this out. Do you have some unresolved trauma?

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I think? I think Kate and Will do. They they
talk about it. They're like, I literally they wanted to die.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Will is like that. Will was like that was literally
the worst pain I've ever been in. He's like, it's
just so random. I'm so sorry that happened. To y'all.
It's okay, it's in the past, but I mean that
is a true test of friendship right there. It is
it is. I mean we got we really bonded. How
did April Bart not get it? I don't know. I
don't I really don't know.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
I just we were told that, like adults really can't
get it. But then here comes oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
We were like we're fine, We're fine, and then all.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
These are still like young y'll still have young blood.
Yeah know, you just came out of being a kid.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yeah, but like what like Will was twenty four at
the time.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah, I whatever, I forgot about that. But every time
you remind me, I'm literally like that is awful.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
I know. And it's because of Sunny. No, that's why
I had to make it up to you.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
Yeah, help with all these like boost Yeah, we owe
you everything.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Yeah, you literally owe me your life.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
See it's a humbling experience, that is it was.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
What did it teach you about life? Not to get
handfoot mouth? Or if my child has hand foot mouth,
I am literally quarantining them. I'm like, well, I guess
if I've already had it, I probably I'm not gonna
say I can't get it again because watch I'm gonna
get it again and literally miserable, and it like hurts
different for everyone, Like it goes to different places. Like

(48:04):
Kate had it all over her face, We'll had it
in this scout and had it on his foot. Oh,
we couldn't get our nails done. It made our nails
fall off. Oh my god?

Speaker 4 (48:11):
How did we survived?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Kate literally couldn't get her nails done for six months
because her nails like just came off.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Do you always have your nails on, Mattie, I haven't
had my nails done in six years? Is that like
a part y'all's generation? Olivia was over here earlier and
you were talking about y'all have these long pointed nails
that you can't do anything with, But yet y'all love.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Well I was someone told me. I can't remember who
it was, but I heard nails make or break business deals.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Well, then that's maybe why all my business deals have
not worked out. I need to go put nails on.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yeah, No, Like, how do you even exist with that?

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Like?

Speaker 2 (48:41):
I feel like when someone's looking at if you have
like just like maintained them, like if you've like chipped nails.
People are like I always think that people like immediately
look at my chip nail and it's.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
Like, you don't maintain yourself.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yeah, that's why I've just decided to do none, because
I'm like, if I can just do nothing, then you can't.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Just I don't really do designs.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
I just do put in colors, nails, make or break business.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
That someone told me that, and now it's just like
engraved in my brain. Can you do things with those nails?
Those are so long? Yeah, these aren't that long?

Speaker 4 (49:08):
Do you like having them?

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Like?

Speaker 4 (49:09):
Can you get I do underneath them?

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Like I have weird toe thumbs? What you've seen my
thumbs before.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
Nobody gets a full deck.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Let me imagine, imagine, no, imagine now it's so embarrassing,
Like every time I'm not working, it is a little
bit like a Joe. Listen. No one gets a full deck, Mattie.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
If you didn't have a toe thum, you'd be too perfect.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
If people to hate, that's right, that's right, that's my
one flaw.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Like, I'm sorry, I don't know you for four years
and I never knew you had to toe them.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
But imagine without this nail, Like then it's just like
a little stub. Does anyone else your family? No, but
will calls them my grubby little square nails. Can I
say it again? What you want to keep looking at it?
I just think that's so funny. I would have never known,
never well, because I were like if I if I
had no nails on it. I'm like, everybody's looking at

(50:03):
my thumb. No one's gonna look at your thumb, okay,
And like people in like high school used to like
make fun of them too, what they say they were
just look at my tooth thumbs and just laugh at them.
I'm like, Okay, did.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
You let everyone know you had toothmbs or did someone
identify it?

Speaker 4 (50:17):
If you wouldn't let it, I like a little bit
of Leo.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Did we know that?

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Yes, we knew that July thirty first, July thirtieth, you
know my birthday August August fourth, yes, yes, yeah, I
just have.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
The Leo energy, like I like a little bit of attention,
you know, m hmm.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
But if you wouldn't announce that you had tooth thumbs,
no one would ever.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Have I like to announce it means you, so then
you can claim it and just let everybody already know
that I have to thumbs and what else do I
like to announce?

Speaker 3 (50:47):
So for all her dating applicants, that's the only flaw,
and it's not even a flaw, it's very endearing.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Yes, so someone can come suck your toe thumb.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Sorry, April Bart.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
What.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
Carol can help me? I'm going off the rails. I'm
feeling like I'm having too much fun.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Someone can come to suck your tongue.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
You know, I know some adults who still suck their thumbs.
I'm not gonna tell you who it.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Is, like celebrities.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yes, and you cannot because that's why. Let your kid
have a passy as long as you can. Don't let
them start sucking it.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
That's nasty. Do you know anyone that sucks with THEMB No,
it happens. It happens. Someone wants to suck my little grubby,
little square nail.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Which would actually be very discussing. I'm sorry I said
that I went off the rails for no reason.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Okay, we're going crazy ore here. Yeah, I don't even drink.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
Give me some vit gu whatever rounding you made me
feel like I'm twenty five and single. In this dating road,
I feel like I'm vicariously living. This is why is
the world's worst stayer.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Hell, give me some but.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Olivia, this is why it was really problems on the
streets for me out there.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Oh gosh, this is so funny.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
Yeah, we're right here almost.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
At an hour, Maddie. Okay, well we can talk for
another I'll have fun out there.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
What are you? What are people like? Are people crazy
when you're like hanging out, do people like get drunk?
We used to drink like Okay, I feel like that's
going out of style.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I'll just like walk through like a typical Nashville and
we'll wrap up like this, Okay, as a twenty five
year old, so obviously I own my own business to like,
I'm not at a job every day, Like I'm not
in an office every day. I guess my typical day
as a twenty five year old living in Nashville is
I wake up. I work part time at a fitness studio,

(52:43):
so sometimes I'll work there in the morning. Do you
get free fitness too, Yeah? What a great train I know,
and Kate manages f forty five, so I get a
pretty good deal there. That's great, and so I'll like,
you know, for me specifically, I'll like do content for people,
post for people. I like run a few people's tiktoks,

(53:03):
working on getting some more clients, and like, I am
such a huge Nashville recommendation person. Like all my friends
coming to Nashville will text me to be like, hey,
like where should I go?

Speaker 4 (53:16):
Okay, you stand in your list because yeah, people will always.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Ask yeah them, And I'm gonna start making more of
like Nashville type content like that, like where do they
what to eat? That kind of stuff. But I love
going to dinner. I love going to a cocktail bar
to get a drink a bunch of like patio vibes.
But like, living in Nashville is not what a lot

(53:39):
of people think, Like I feel like when people visit here,
they're like, oh, people just party people, just like I
can't imagine living here because it's just strictly partying. But
it's not that at all, and they're not. The health
and wellness scene of Nashville is insane, Like it is
just as big as the party scene. That's awesome. Like
there are so many community fitness events on the weekend

(54:00):
that I like to go to, and ever since I
started training, I've met so many cool people that are
like with gyms and with athletic apparel and all this
stuff and like doing cool things and and that's why
I like, Also my mind shifted with dating is like
I want to meet someone in those settings, not the
party settings. Am I've been in the music industry settings

(54:20):
late night bars, like I'm asleep by nine ten pm.
Now like I'm not asleep, I'm not out at starting
my night at ten pm on a Monday night anymore
and then being out till one two am. And like
I my mindset has shifted, and I'm like, I want
someone in that in the fitness world who can who
does the same things I do, and.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
Who values health and mental health right and.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Like eating healthy and all that stuff I love and
sleep and just is so important healthy spirit. I'm like
when I want to start a family, like I want
someone on the same page with me about that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
You're so smart and wise. Stop good for you, Yes,
twenty five.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
I think it's just honestly, like it's just since I
started doing my own thing, like I've had to like
have all these thoughts to my for myself, you know,
like I don't have someone telling me I need to
be somewhere or so.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
You have to keep yourself motivated and keep yourself on track.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Right, So I'm like, okay, to be the best version
of myself, this is what I need to do. That's
so awesome. Yeah, and actually I've started reading some like
self help books. I want to take some of yours.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Oh, let's go start up to this because you know
I have a whole bookshelf.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Yes, but I would say, like a typical Nashville life
is like a lot of people love like going to
din it. There's so many cool dinner places and cocktail
bars that are popping up, and like I would much
rather go get a cocktail or a glass of wine
at dinner then go out and spend money on just
a bunch of cheap, gross cocktails. Yes, oh yes, Like

(55:48):
give me a cocktail at dinner and a cocktail before dinner,
and then I'm good to go all to night. Yeah,
call it a night. I love that. Yeah, I feel
like I've turned that page recently. So your playlist would
be called like patio vibes. Yeah, Like I love a
good patio vibe sunset with people that I.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Love, Like, I mean, here's some water, yeah, Like an
ocean or a lake beach, yeah, or even just like
a great night outside.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yeah, exactly. So I feel like living in Nashville is
definitely cool because you get to like choose what area
you get to like surrect, like the people you surround
yourself with and what kind of vibe you want. Yeah,
And I think there is a lot to offer, especially
with work too. There are so many different industries and yeah,

(56:33):
like you can do anything you can, and like it
feels so small, Like I feel like every time I'm
in a certain area, I run into someone I know
because there's everything is walkable. Yeah, Like you go downtown
and then you can walk to the Gold you can
walk to twelve South. You can walk literally anywhere, and
like it's just it's a lot of young people. I
will say, there are way more girls than guys, which

(56:54):
is why it's another reason why it's hard to date,
because guys see too many options and they don't want
to settle, and guys not want to commit these days,
Oh for sure, because there's too many options. They're like, oh,
like if they're not ready. I always say this, This
is another thing I say. I say, Kate and I
agree on this. If a girl. A girl is looking

(57:16):
for the right guy, and a guy is looking for
the right time. Like if a guy is not ready
to commit, they won't commit, even if it's the perfect girl,
they won't commit. Timing everything, Timing is everything for a
guy because and you don't want to rush that noah,
and it's it's like if if you do rush it,
then it's never going to be you can get the
wrong can get the wrong thing.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Yeah, so a guy has to beatience, Yeah, I guess fully.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Fully just like committed to wanting to commit. You know,
like when a guy is ready to commit, they are
ready to commit. And it's like even if they're with
the not the the girl that's not the most perfect
for them, they will commit still at that time, at
that time. And girls are always waiting for the perfect guy. Yeah,

(58:01):
So like I think I find the perfect guy and
then but they're not ready to commit, so that it's
like a lot. This is this is my experience. All
the days I go on, I go on like maybe
one or two three dates with a guy, they act
all interested, so like oh my gosh, I can't wait
to see you again, like all this stuff, and then
when it's time to see each other again. Crickets literally nothing,

(58:22):
especially last year on the road. I would be gone
for a while, I would be talking to a guy,
like going like two dates with the guy. I would
get back and then crickets. It's like whenever I was
able to hang out nothing. Are you dating guys your
own age? Uh, I'm shooting for older. I think you
should go for at least thirty. I'm going for like
I'm twenty five. I'm saying like twenty eight to thirty two.

(58:43):
I'm just yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like and twenty eight
to thirty year olds, like they have to be mature. Yeah,
so I think.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
You're ready for an older guy.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
I think it also depends on what they do. Yeah,
like if they're like doing something that's not like I
don't know, it's just it's very situation. Yeah, but you
know what you're looking for.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
I love it. I get it.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yeah, Okay, So you just kind of.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
Have to just like let it be.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
And like I'm doing my thing and running my business.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Someone is gonna be so stoked when they get you.
The right guy is gonna be like fired up that.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
You I need someone to be so obsessed with me. Yeah.
But then also like hold their weight, but also not
to be obsessed in the way where it's.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Like unhealthy, like an equal in session.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Yeah, like equal, that's the thing. It needs to be equal,
Like they can't just be maybe.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Just like someone who just like find you just like
absolutely like in their eyes, like you're perfect for them,
you know, like they just think you're.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
The best, and like that's how I want to feel
about my partner too, so well hold out. Literally it's
so funny because I feel like you've been witnessing my
dating life for the past four years.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
I love how you've evolved with it and like he
you talk about this and like having the confidence just
be single and having the confidence and not worry about
it and to not like analyze yourself and to think
that like you're the problem, but to realize, Okay, I'm
just gonna be in the season where I'm working on
myself doing what I love, growing my business, growing my
personal like growing my self esteem, growing my self worth,

(01:00:07):
growing just me as a human, checking out these bucketless dreams,
doing what I want to do, having a responsibility. Like
I love that you're just like embracing that and you're
not feeling like desperate, like I have to have a
partner to have value. Yeah, because that's just absolutely not true.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Right, I'm I'm in the at the point where like
all go on dates, like I love, Like, yeah, I
love going on dates. You never know what you're gonna
find exactly, And every single date I go on, I
learned something new about myself and also about like what
I want in someone. And Kate, my sister is always like,
you go on so many dates. I'm like not really
like I'm also she doesn't know how to date.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Sorry, dating's hard, Like, hey, I feel you, Kate, I
feel you. I was a terrible dater as well. It's
just like, how do you date? What makes a cool date?
Give us a and then we got to wrap up,
But tell me what makes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
For a cool date? How do you say? What do
you do that's like makes you I'm just at the
point where I'm just myself and I straight up tell
people what I like and what I don't like, and
if they don't like it, then okay. So here comes
a date.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
You've never gone out a date before, You're sitting down,
you're ordering, like what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
How are you getting into? Just like it's like the
small talk. It's like the how do you small talk?

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
Pretend like I'm the dude.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Okay, No, well I don't know how to just talk
like what would you say?

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Well, you have to ask me a question. So if
they don't ask a question, then I'm like so like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
It's just what them tend to share, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
So like I don't go on dates with guys who
can't carry conversations. Okay, So like tell me about yourself,
like what are you up to? What are you doing? Well?
I have my own business, boss, I uh in training
for my mind has been on high rocks this the
past three months. Like that's all I can talk about.
So I'm like someone who is dating me needs to
realize that fitness is important. Fitness is important, especially at

(01:01:48):
this point. I talk about that. I talk about just
like my family, like how close we are, because I'm
like I have to let them know these things. Yeah,
this is who you are, and then I just let
it go from there. I feel like I've I have
a good like I'm good at making people feel comfortable. Yeah,
so like they could think it's the best state ever
and I'm be like this sucks. This sucks because like

(01:02:10):
I know how to make people like get out of
their shell and like understand, like you know, understand me,
and they think it's the best date ever. Will and
I were talking about this my brother. He was like, yeah,
I feel like we just like make people know how
to make people feel like so comfortable where it's like
they think it's the best state ever. We just are like, yeah, whatever,
I've never doing that again. Yeah, but yeah, I honestly

(01:02:34):
I'm at the point where I'm only I'm only going
on dates like if there's like a level of like
attraction and like mental intrigue.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Yeah, you know, yes, and like, yeah, good for you.
This is exciting. I can't wait to see who you
end up with. I know, right, he's gonna be one
lucky dude and he's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Oh yeah, No, I'm not saddling, don't Yeah, you don't
have to. No one has, especially in like I don't know.
I have just too much going for me. Amen. And
it's not cockiness.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
No, it's not cockiness because you know it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
It's truth.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Yeah, just you speak the truth. Yeah, Okay, Mattie, I
love you so much. This has been so much fun.
We're gonna wrap up and we stick around for a
quick bonus episode of Tell Me More Yes, or we
draw questions that it's even personal. Tell Me More well
aeron Thursday. So if y'all can't wait to hear more
of Maddie's brain, which I know we want to hear,
tune in Thursday for a quick little bonus episode. I
always wrap with leave your Light drop some inspiration? What

(01:03:33):
do you want people to know?

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
I am such a firm believer in just chasing your
dreams and going for it. And I've been taught that,
like by my parents and you, like you've been a
huge inspiration to me and Michael too. But I just
am always like, there's nothing like in your standing in
your way. It's your mindset that will get you there,

(01:03:58):
and just go for it. Literally, just go for what
you want and it'll happen. It will with God, with
your drive, with your mentality, with the right people around you,
like you'll be successful. Heck yeah, I mean I'm not
there quite yet, but you I'm getting there. I'm on
the arrive. No one's ever there, No, I know. I'm like,

(01:04:19):
is this ever gonna feel like I'm ever gonna be
like I have a arrived Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
I don't think it's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
A struggle because like, for example, for yes yesterday, I
was so defeated yesterday morning. I was like what am
I doing? Like am I doing? Like what am I doing?
Like why am I living? Like this? Like what am I?
Literally what am I doing? And then by the end
of yesterday, like all this stuff started happening, and like
after your podcast, like it was just like I started

(01:04:45):
feeling overwhelmed with like gratefulness and like thanking God for
like what He's done and like put in my like
what like in my path.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
For me and for you answering the call and dis
trusting even when you're unsure of what you're doing. Yeah,
so like he God provides and you show up and
do it, you know. And I think that's a big
part of it, is like trusting the process and showing
up and walking into the darkness even when you have
no idea what's in front of you, but you're just
trusting it and you continue to do that and so

(01:05:14):
God will continue to provide.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
I mean it's a it's a trust. It's a trust faith.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
They trust and I I feel like I have too
much trust in it sometimes where I'm like, yeah, like
I could be doing more, Like I feel like I
could always be doing more, But I'm like, it's all
gonna It's all gonna happen with time.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
I love that. That's how I feel too, And I'm
still like, I know, I'm still on the journey with it.
I know, but I'm like, it always happens, it always unfolds,
it always works out. There are huge windows where you
have no idea what's going on? Are you look at
my lips because they're bleeding?

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
No, I'm not looking at I'm looking at my eyes.
You're so like, you're so like.

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
Because they're like they're dry. I need some chapsticks so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
No, it's not bleeding, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Anyway, but you're literally just if you're asking me, I
think that's the way to do it, and it just
involves having full faith, trusting your internation.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
You've helped me learn that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
So I'm so glad you feel like you were able
to learn it because a half the time I feel
like show literally.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
You're literally my mentor. Who would have ever thought that?
You're like, wait, I'm a mentor. I'm a mentor.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
It's like lately, what what like it's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Like it's hard. No, that's literally no. And I feel
like we just like have always had like good energy
between us too.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
I just love you, Yeah, I genuinely love you. I
love your whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Like I see you as like a like almost like
a bigger sister. Yeah, who's like paved the way and
I can like well, and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
I feel like I actually have something to give you
that's helpful. A lot of times I feel like I
don't have anything to share with people that's helpful.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
But like, Okay, you're kind of like following. We're kind
of like you're kind of doing a path that I
understand because because you like have tried so many different avenues,
like even like the amazing race.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
Yeah, but just be kind of the same as you
just do it. Just put yourself out and even I
want to give you props to this.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
You reached out to me. You're like, can I come
on your podcast? I'd love to come on your podcast.
Like you're so assertus. It's like I was like, dang, Maddie,
hell yeah, I just want what are we going to
talk about? I Mean, I knew there's so much to
talk about, but like, I just love that you are like,
I want to do this. I'm gonna I'm gonna ask. Yeah,
I'm gonna put myself out there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Yeah. I love that about it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Just sit back and be like if you have the
desire to be on and then like and then you
kind of pushed it again because like yesterday Parmally came out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
I was like, oh, this is the perfect you seize
your moment. Well, it was just like because Parmally, where
else were you to do?

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
I was scrambling for a podcast because I thought Parma
here next Monday. And then I was like, oh crap,
I don't have a podcast next week.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
And I was just like I need to get a podcast.
You go, well I could do it, Like hey, why not?
And I was like, yeah, can you do it tomorrow?
You're like, yeah, I can do it too thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
I was like, great, okay, perfect, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Well, it's just like I feel like this could probably
give a good perspective to like people wanting to move
to Nashville and like dating and like getting just an
inside look of like what life is like. Yeah, as
a twenty five year old in Nashville, like a girl.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Her own, it's so great.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
This has been one of my favorite episodes.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
But I just love your confidence and boldness and your assertiveness.
I think that's but you're not like aggressive about it
where that's what I'm saying. You got that personality, you
got the swag with it. You know, it's not like push.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
I'm I'm a good hang, good hot.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
You're not like throwing it down someone's throat where they're like,
oh my god, like back off.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
But you're like, just chill.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
About it, cool, I'm available, and then you're like do it,
and you do a good job and you're gonna go
far places. Maddie, thank you care lyin podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Oh my god, it was so much fun. Did you
love it? I feel like we could talk for like
so much longer.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
I love it, And I feel like Bart and April
are gonna be fine with everything we said.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Oh yeah, no, they're gonna they're gonna die. They're gonna die.
The dumb thing I know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
Tom, Why did I tell some Why did I tell
you ask if someone stuck your toe them?

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
I mean, you got me off the rails, Maddie. I'm
just having so much fun. Okay, we're gonna stick around
for tell me more with Maddie.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Just tellveryone really fast where they can find all your stuff. Okay,
so my business is social Spark. You can find me
at Maddie Rickert and then social Spark. It's Social Spark,
Nash and yeah, Instagram, Instagram. Yeah, if anyone ever needs content,
hit you up.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
And if you want to put in your dating application,
you better like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Yeah, better bring it in the comment. You better bring
it dating application. You better bring it though.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
If you're gonna be showing up for Mattie.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Ricker, yeah, I need almost like some sort of like
video entry or something.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
We need video entries. Yeah, and then we're gonna call
a family meeting and we're going to discuss all of them.
It'll be like it'll be like my own dating app.
You're dating specifically for me. Watch, can't I no applicants
that would happen to me?

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
You're gonna get applicants. Listen, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Don't just show it up, show them, bring them and
can I come to the family meeting?

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Yeah, you and Michael are all We've literally told you.
We literally have told you that we're having a family meeting.
Come over.

Speaker 6 (01:09:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
It was about something that I think, for some reason,
we were invested in.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Was it was it Will's in life. It could have been.
Will was going off the rails for a while. When
is he not? He still is? But we love Will. Yeah,
so Will. It's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
We'll stop by the other day and I'm like, is
anytime a record stops?

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
I am so happy. I'm like, I just love y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
All. Y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
I love all y'all for a.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Different reason, but as a collective, y'all are just so
much fun. Yeah, I know, you know, Okay, we're gonna
tell me more.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Maddie.

Speaker 4 (01:10:23):
I love you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
I love you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
I'm glad you had a great first experience. Yes, bye,
I love you.

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