SUMMER PARDI: Getting Real About Babies, Boozin’, and Being Married to a Cowboy Music Man

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Carrying line.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
She's a queen and talking hey song. She's getting really
not afraid to feel the episode and so just let
it flow.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
No one can do we quiet Cary Line.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
It is time for Caroline. Summer party is in the house.
The party has started, and we came in hot and
Morgan their president. She was coming in hot and she
used to peace. So she's doing the pee dance. So
I just wanted to share that with everyone. Summer texted
me earlier and said, I'm on the way. I just
found seven takes on my children collectively, and this is

(00:49):
my morning. So here we are, Monday, healthy, Monday. You
are in the country with some babies and a cowboy.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, not a plowboy.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Is he the cowboy or the plowboy?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Here's the cowboy and Brian is the past. Luke is
the plowboy.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
But John really is like a real life cowboy.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Right, yeah, yeah, he's more of a cowboy than I
don't even know.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, what is there? What is it like living with
a cowboy? Like what's your day to day? You wake
up with ticks? Wake up with ticks? Because I mean,
you're so beautiful and you're so blam but are you
a cowgirl. I mean I've seen you on a tractor
in heels.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, I mean, I definitely cover all all the areas
of things, all the hats, wear all the hats, but no,
I mean lam glam summer is rare for special, special occasions.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
She's just having you know, you look beautiful today. By
the way, you just had a baby weekly tomorrow. I
cannot believe you're here. Thank you for coming, especially when
she woke up with a tick on her body. I
wo've been full of on panic mode. But look at
Summer's just like it's.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Fine, We're fine, We're here, We're here.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's all fine. Great, So yeah, we It's just like,
I'm so impressed that you're here with a brand new baby.
I can't even imagine with a cowboy on the road.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, I mean it's gone for like twenty days right now,
so you're just doing it. I'm battling ticks solo.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Tell me how you felt this morning. The first I
want to hear about what a day to day life
is with a cowboy. Well, or just we can combine
these tuits kind of go together living with the cowboys,
so you live on like a farm ish thing, have
lots of animals, like lots of them, I.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Mean not like not like back home, but I still
some longhearts, like yeah, we have the Highland cattle because.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Also got I love Center. I love you so much, Summer.
I know so much about you, Like you grew up
back home and your dad got his finger bit off
by a brown. I mean you grew up like on
we bought a zoo type situation, right with all these animals,
but some of them like exotic. Yeah, and then your
dad created this like non toxic makeup line. That's so great, lick.
I still love that. I mean, your dad's like a

(02:54):
wild man, right, Larry does it all? Yeah, Larry, And
your mom is also just like a beautiful angel. So
you just have a lot happening here.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
There's a lot of Sharon's actually in town. She just
got in last night.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Thank god.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
So she was there for the tick your microphones a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
What and what does Sharon do when she finds ticks?
So you wake up? All the girls have ticks, like
he didn't. Everyone has ticks.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
So they woke up and then they slept with them.
They've been on them, they've been on them. I don't
know how long and.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Now that's the territory that gives me a touch of anxiety.
But it's all gonna be good. It's all gonna be good.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
It's all gonna be everything fine.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
About Yeah, So what happened? What happened this morning?

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Woke up? I was actually changing. Sienna was so Presley's
ticks were yesterday, okay, seven and seven of them armpits,
neck roll with all her chunk in between her toe
on her ear lobe? Am I gonna start with a
neck roll one? And our babysitter actually was like, what
is this little spot she's getting her in her little
pajamas while I was with Sienna, and I'm like, I don't,

(03:53):
I don't know. I mean, it was so tinier than
a flake of pepper.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
That's why it takes her the absolute worst, the worst.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
I would rather have the big juicy one exactly, just
so you can see it obvious. You know what you're
dealing with.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Let me kill you are the worst, okay. And that's
the thing in those little ones carry stuff, that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah no, but don't google it because I was like, oh,
they're they're so tiny, they're harmless, And then Google Google said,
hold my beer.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
But you know what Michael said, because he grew up
on a farm. He's like, listen, well it takes every
single day and we're fine. But I'm like, why are
well scared? I don't know, explained so much?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
It is true though, it's like every day, especially when
you're like, takes on him all the time, and he's
never had any issue from it. He's got I mean,
who knows, I could explain all of his stomake issues,
his everything. I'm like, this actually checks out now. I'm
taking notes mentally right now.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
But now it's your babysitter finds the tick.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Babysitter finds a tick on her neck, and then you know,
I got the tweezers picked it off, and then we
did the whole body inspection, ended up finding literally which
maybe like a horrible mom.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's not like you just had a newborn. It's hard
to it, you know, it's like it's hard to do
everything perfectly. You just pushed a baby out of your body.
You're recovery, I mean, you're recovering. You barely just driving
four weeks. I mean not that you can't drive a
little bit, but like I mean, you're barely coming out
of like the the recovery. Your body has gone through it.

(05:29):
So I think it's okay if you forget a few
little details.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
All. So it's not like every day that I'm inspecting
armpit creases, right, So I'm trying, you know, I'm gonna
give myself some grace, Okay. So you found the one,
and you're like, okay, So yeah, then we counted and
picked off however many more, five or six more? I can't,
it's just And then I had seen this little spot

(05:53):
on Sienna's lash line, but it looked like almost like
a little ibogger. And she has those all the time
because she's just she's just fresh now, and so she's
got the little eye crusties or the eyeboogers or you know,
a little freckle here and there. And so anyways, I
had noticed this little spot in her lash line, and
then this morning it dawned on me. I was like,
this is a mother effing tick, I know it. And

(06:17):
so nothing like getting tweezers to your newborn's eyeball like
anywhere but the lash line, and so I might trying
to pick it off without getting her eyelashes or her
skin and I'm just like, oh my poor mom was
holding her and she couldn't even look. She kept looking away,
and I'm like, we're gonna get it. And we got

(06:39):
that little sucker, thank got oh little arms moving. And
I'm like, this is disgusting that I lit him on fire.
So and then I found one in her ear, like
on her cartilage up in.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
The little What are y'all doing outside?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
I don't I don't know. I'm blaming John. I think
John went to our property. We have another property that
is literally twind acres of just land right now, and
he's been out there doing like cowboy cowboy stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
So wait, yeah, what is the cowboy stuff that he does? Like,
what does he do when he goes into does he stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
His bulldozers and skid steers and the greater and he's
like tearing down trees and doing mulching and then he
makes these roads. And so we've got roads to every
peak on this property, houses on top. I don't know
what we're doing with it, but they're ready.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
He's prepping ready, he's prepping it.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
It's great if you want to go for a joy
ride on the canam or the Scrambler.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
What's a scrambler.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
I don't know. It's a type of Jeep CJ something Scrambler,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Probably is that happening, yes, now? Is that his self care? Yes,
very much.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
So that is John in his element, like just driving
around in silence on the property. But I'm ninety percent
sure that he went out there last week because he
was doing all that before he left, and it's like
the height of tick season right now. That's specifically the nymph,

(08:04):
the babies, the babies. Yeah, which, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
What are you gonna say about that?

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Because the way I'm just like, okay, good, good, good. Yeah.
So I think, yeah, I think that he would on
the property that's been undisturbed by anyone lived on raging.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
They're just having a field day out there. That's why
they live in tall Grass.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, perfect. I think that they came back on him. Okay,
I think he's to blame.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Are you doing great?

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Anyway? So we got the ticks off, everyone's gonna survive.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
So how are you doing? You have? So last time
we talked, you and John weren't married. No, you were
maybe not even engaged. Maybe we're engaged, just engaged or
right in the Yeah, we're definitely serious and an engagement world.
But it was all so new. You guys met because

(08:59):
your mom's introduced Jill. Yeah, can you just refresh that
story because that one's too good to your mom my?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Actually my client and John's mom.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Do you do hair?

Speaker 3 (09:07):
I did hair?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Have been been tired? Oh good for you, Hey, listen,
you've moved on to new things.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
I thought for sure I was going to be back
to hair four weeks after Presley, like I was one
hundred percent I'm going to be back, And here I
am now a year and a half later, with two
babies and still not doing hair. Hey season, But it's
I feel like at peace with it, which is really nice.
So but yeah, no, John So my client at the time,
and John's mom. John and I both grew up in California,

(09:34):
like three hours apart. Didn't know each other. Honestly, don't
even know who he was, even though I've grown up
with country music. But they set us up because he
had had failed fail after fail of girlfriends, and same
for me with boyfriends and so.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
So he was looking for a good girl.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
He was looking for a good girl. Looking job, you're
looking for a good girl.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
You were looking for a good cowboy.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
I was looking for a cowboy. You really probably weren't
have lived in California, but California cowboy.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well, he is a California cowboy.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Ye that those exist, but they really they do.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
There's a lot of land out there in California. Yeah,
he grew up as a cowboy, like on land. Yep,
doing doing what.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
He's All of his family and stuff has been in
different family members are in farming. They'd had like almonds
and all kinds of things up north where he's from,
like outside of sacrament now. So he always grew up
just out out living the dream.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
So she'll met on a blind date on a blind
day because your mom, his mom came to you. I've
so was she coming to you? That's what you said?

Speaker 3 (10:34):
His my client, his mom Okay, did their whole working magic.
Gave John my number. He sat on it for a
few days, text me because he was actually in my
hometown for a concert. I think he was touring with
Dirks at the time, but I was in Vegas and
so the next option was to fly out to Denver
the following week to meet him, where he had two shows.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I forgot you actually flew out to meet him on
a blind date. That's so ballsy, so oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
And I took my girl friend just in case it
was a disast. Case it was a disaster, I would
at least have a girlfriend a do a girl strip.
I tried to cancel the flight, and that didn't happen
because it was booked by his travel agents, so I
couldn't go in and edit the flight. I tried to,
I panicked last minute. And so here we are, seven years,

(11:22):
I think now later.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I've covered a lot of grounds in seven.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Years, twenty seventeen.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
So how's how was it? Okay? Y'all got married? Touring NonStop,
career keeps blowing up. You are like blowing up. You're
such like an incredible brand ambassador. You have so much
great advice to share with people like I literally if
I needed to know what I need to have for
everything in my life, you are a go to. You're
an incredible resource, and you just learn. You're just such
like a wonderful energy to follow too. You're so real,

(11:49):
you're so open, you're just You're just your dream, your
total dream summer.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
So your life has dramatically changed though because marrying John
puts you on a different trajectory, definitely, And how was that?
Do you feel like you were made for road life?
Because I really some people like it's really hard, and
other people are like, this is what I'm made for.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I mean definitely wasn't made for it. They we talked
about this, I'm sure in the beginning too, because it
was just like I was such a routine homebody, like
same breakfast, every day, same you know, wake up, jim,
scrambled egg, work home, nothing nothing outside those lines.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
And so.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
To be thrown into this lifestyle where there's no routine
and no no schedule in a sense of like normalcy.
But I've done well, I will say I've I have.
I will pat myself on the back because I have
done better than I thought I would do.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
What have you had to What were the parts that
you had to like get to And they makes you
feel a little like, oh, this is this is not
my normal that you had to push through alter your
perception on it a little bit.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Everything about road line the shitty sleep.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Sleep is so bad, horrible, It's so bad.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Unless you get blocked out drunk it's the only way
to sleep.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Then you're gonna feel terrible in another way? Can you
pay for it? Yeah, there's no there's no positive, and
I get scared that we're gonna crash. Like I have
a very hard time going to sleep because like you're
putting your whole life in this person driving the bus.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
The guy's not thinking about stuff because John's never talked
about that. I'm like, I spent the first six months
waiting to get tea boned. Yeah, in the back of
that bus.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Michaels never thinks about stuff Like I'm always like, okay,
assessing my situation, which is kind of ironic that I
crushed my tailbone because I am someone I told the cmicle.
I was like, I am literally someone who I'm going
to assess the situation. I don't want to be like
a freak of nature where I'm scared of everything, but
I'm going to look at the whole thing and I'm
going to figure out where the pitfalls could be, where
the danger lurks, you know on that one where the

(13:51):
risk is. How about that. I'm gonna find the risk
and then I'm gonna weigh my odds. Do we is
this worth the risk or not? Okay, So like the
risk with the road life like the driving the and
the bus is very scary to me to sleep at night,
but I mean it's worth the risk because you got
to get to the shows. Why are you bus? I mean, so,
you know, And I think that's how michael us things is,
like he's like, what are you gonna do? You know,

(14:13):
It's like you can't worry about that kind of stuff.
But I think about it, So the first six months
you were thinking about it, yeah, and then what happened
you just decided not to worry about it anymore. I
think I just got broken.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I think I just started getting drunk every night or
something I felt.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I think that's another reason why people do have like
some a little sleep aid. You need a little help
to like go to sleep. Definitely, I mean that's definitely.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Part of it. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
But also that first year it was so fun of
like the party life. You know, it's night and day
from what we were back then.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Tell me how it was then and how it is now, Like,
give me some details.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
I mean, it was party central, but we were also
on one bus with like thirteen of us. It was
me and like the loving guys, which was honestly discussed.
But in the time, I was so in that honeymoon phase,
like I say, this is amazing, Like this is so fun.
One bathroom always covered in pee fowl. And then I

(15:11):
think a year later we had graduated to.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Two buses, and then.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Now it's got four or five, and so we have
our own bus now, so we have our family bus
where it's just us and the girls, and then we
have autumnmar nanny who travels with us. And so even that, though,
is like it makes me laugh thinking about the days
when that first eight months of our life together was
literally thirteen of us on a bus, just rage mode, partying.

(15:39):
Every night. I don't stand up till double four am.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
We double bunking with Johnks. If there's thirteen, there's only
twelve bunks.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
We had the there was like the lounge in the back,
but it wasn't a bedroom. It was like a lounge.
You just sleeping on a very level on like couch,
a couch ish thing you were sleeping on like the
the l Yeah on the couch, yeah pretty much every night. Yeah.
Oh so it was like a glorified couch.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Like.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
There wasn't a bathroom back there. It was just a
storage room. Basically, I don't know it was.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, Now we have a bunk or a bus with
the bedroom, and we have the bunks for the girls,
and we've got our own bathroom in the back. And
it makes me laugh thinking about how like sometimes with
the girls on the bus, I feel crowded and I'm like, no,
you're good.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Isn't it crazy how realities can change so quickly?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, you have two and or two.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
I feel like I did not even come out of
my baby fog with Sunny until she was like three,
almost four. It takes forever to like, yeah, to like
get back to a normal baseline.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
I feel like your body's out of whack. Your hormones
are out of whack. Now you're caring for these little creatures.
How has it changed? Going b wants too? And also
like I remember you, I remember seeing you, and I
hope I'm not like the July but not saying something
that you weren't comfortable talking about, because I know, take
a little bit, You'll put it to a little bit
of time though to get pregnant, like it wasn't easy.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
For you two years of not failed attempts, but like
trying and yeah, nothing happening, and then being told we
had to do IVF and ultimately deciding. I think when
I saw you the last time and we talked about it,
I was just like, you know, we're just we're not
going to go through that. I didn't want to go
through IVF. It's a lot, and I never was that

(17:36):
person that was like I have to have kids. I
didn't know if I want to have kids.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
I was not.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I thought something was wrong with me because I didn't
have that desire to have kids. And I didn't see
other babies and be like, oh my god, I am
baby fever.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I don't ever want to hold a baby. Like when
someone has a baby, I'm like, I love your baby,
and that is God. But like I'm not the one
that's like, give me your baby. I needn't didn't kiss it, Like, no,
that baby's gonna cry, that baby's gonna need to eat,
the baby is going to be stressed out because I'm
not the mom, and I just it's a lot of energy.
It's a lot of energy, and I'm not a baby.
I'm not really a baby person either. I love little

(18:09):
kids like I love little kids because they're like little humans.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I like my kids.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, and I love my kids, my child, but like
with a baby, I'm like, I love your baby, but
you can hold your baby. Unless you need me to
hold your baby, then I'll hold your baby for you.
Right then, I love your baby.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
It was It's funny, like I think about that often,
of the conversations that John and I had had before
eventually obviously getting pregnant and just being like it was.
I think it was God. We had a party at
Brittany and Jason's house. They had a big I think
it was Brittany and Brittany's birthday or somethingh Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
There's the most epic parties. I mean epic.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
And this was all like right after twenty twenty, you know,
so everyone was having fun. We were all still just.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Raging, blown up.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
God, so we had a like early twenty twenty, Yeah,
like the pandemic had started it and all that.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I think I'm trying to think of when Presley was born. No,
I guess this was after. This was because we had
the drunkest year of our life in twenty twenty. Because
I'm sure we're not alone on that is that when.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
John desired to retire for a minute, afterwards. Yeah, twenty
twenty really brought out twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Twenty twenty was so great and so horrible and so many.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I need all the details, please, any detail you wanted
to share.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Oh god, it I mean that was the most fun year,
which I think we all, like, you know, that was
when we really got close with Kitlyn and Kate and
realized that we all lived so close and we were
around I guess, and we were we're like neighbors, as
we call it out kind of country, and so that
was fun. We got close with them, and just the

(19:48):
amount of time that you got to spend with your
other artist friends that you would never see because you're
always on the same schedule, you know. So it's like
there was so much that happened and just and I
do think it.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
It's really important to notice the good things that happen,
because like, there obviously was so much devastation, but like
it also did allow some time that like some time
you would never have time to be home.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
I mean, if you survived twenty twenty in your marriage
or with children and everything, right, you're not on top.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I know that I'm talking to a lot of my
married friends and I'm like listen, if you think marriage
is just just walking the cake the whole time. I
don't know what book you're reading or what you subscribe to.
And don't get me wrong, we both love our husbands
and I love my husband than anything. But like, if
you think that you're not going to hit rough patches
are hard patches thousand percent.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
This is not Instagram marriage where everything looks perfect. No, yeah,
there was. There was a lot of positives that twenty
twenty brought to us. But then also, you know, obviously
the opposite of that, but the positives being just like
the time home with your family and with your loved
ones and if you were able to you know, be

(20:58):
around them. So we had a lot of We had
just built the shop at our house, which we had
no intentions when we built that. It was supposed to
be like a tractor garage and then it turned into
this epic like party shop. But God to talk about
the just the drinks that we had over that year,

(21:19):
even twenty twenty one, like it all carried into twenty
twenty one, because that's I'm trying to think when I
got pregnant, Like, at what point the math is not
NATting up in my brain. That is not my strong Suitay,
so if you're pregnant at whatever point it was at
this party at Brittany and Jason sALS. My whole point
of this circle story that I'm talking about is, you know,

(21:40):
we we had gone through the whole IVF thing.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Did you do We're going to do that?

Speaker 1 (21:44):
No?

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, So we ultimately decided I didn't want to go
through that. I was never like dying to have kids.
I didn't want to put myself through that when there's
no guarantee. And also, it's a shit ton of money.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
It's so expensive, it's so hard on your body. It's
so amazing if if if you do feel called for it,
it's an incredible option that's out there. But I'm like,
I've stressled for me, I'm not and it's not for
me either. And we have we were blessed with one kid,
and I feel like getting to the second kid that
would be an option, but I'm like, I just don't
feel it. It's a lot. Yeah, So that that was.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Kind of where we were at, and we had this
conversation of like, do you.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Think all the drinking and relaxing though, took the pressure
off of trying to have a baby, so you for
sure the juice was loose.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
The juice was loose, Yeah, definitely, because we had that
was probably the drunkest week of my life when you
got pregnant. When I found out I was pregnant, perfect,
like because.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
You like, I'm not worrying about this. We tried for
two years. I'm stressed out.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
We had decided like we're not going to have if
it happens, and happens, like we're not going to force
this to happen or try.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
And John was the kind of the same page like
I was on the same page.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
He was ter he's still scared about kids and we
have them, Like he's so scared of the teenage years
in high.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
School and like, but what what is he scared when they.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Like when the attitude come out and the boys and
you know, having two daughters, it's just like going. I mean,
I got an MRI the other day and I was crying. Literally,
I posted this on my instant story. I was laying
there for eighteen minutes of the Samurai crying because there
was a Megan Maroney song and Ashley Cook breakup song
and I literally was laying there sobbing. Try not to

(23:20):
move to blur the image of my thinking about their
first heartbreak and like, my children are not even two
and two months yet, Like, yeah, you're thinking about that's
my thoughts heartbreak.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, well your tailbone is inverted and somebody your body
is broken. You can't walk.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Heartbreak. And then like John's on the same page. It's
just like I was just thinking about this stuff all
the time.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
I'm like, yeah, it's okay, this is you're really prepping
for it.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
It's just life. I feel like I'm probably extra emotional
too with this pregnancy hormones. So if I start crying
for no reason.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
I'll cry with you. I already okay. So finally you're like,
we're not going to worry about it.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
We worry about it.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
So when you were worrying about it, you're like tracking
your ovulation everything you probably we got.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
I was like resentful about what. I was like mad
at John, like because it wasn't working, and I'm like,
is it his fault?

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Is it my fault? Your swimmer's not swimming?

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Like what's what?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
It's got to be you?

Speaker 3 (24:16):
It's not me, you know, And just it was just
so frustrating and so discouraging and everything was it was
just fun, like that's supposed to be fun. Making babies
is supposed to be fun.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Until you can't make it a TV camp and it.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
And it turned into work and torture and then too,
just like when you are tracking your relation and you're like,
we have to we have to go right now, and
I'm just like, there's nothing sexy or romantic about that,
no at all.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
So it just and then like I don't know about you,
but I was like kicking my feet up and they
like doing crazy shit. You're like, don't.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
It's fine. I'll be here upside down for the next
fifteen minutes because that's what Google says.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, I know, it's so it is so work.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
You know, it works for some people. Something we did
work too, and okay.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
So finally, so you just so you just weren't you
weren't having anything, no miscare just know, nothing just nothing,
just nothing, okay, just nothing nothing, okay negative after negative
test and all the blood work and everything, and they're
all like it's fine, yeah, okay, and so you're just like.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
You can do IBA for iu I and I'm like,
I just really don't want to do either of those options.
And so we kind of just agreed, like, hey, we
might be sad ten years from now if we don't
do this, but like neither of us had this strong,
you know feeling if we have to do it. So like,
you know, we're just gonna party and enjoy this life
that we have and we had come off you know,

(25:37):
such that fun party year. And like my parents are
always traveling around touring. You know, they've like they met
us in Australia for John's tour years ago, and I.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Mean, God bless Larry and Sharon.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
I mean Larry Sharon. I'm like, I love that energy
than any phase of summer that I've ever been, Like
in my twenties, in my thirties, I'm like, how do
you guys out party? Well?

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Your children do? They have to create things? Like I
feel like your family is just such a creative family
with animals, with coming with products, with like adventuring, with
just showing up and stop. And they're so fun to
talk to you. Every time I talked to them, like
they're so engaging and just they're just loving life, okay
the best. So we were like it was great, the
parents are coming, You're going to Australia. Live life not

(26:20):
worry about it, and you were really fine about it. Yeah,
even though probably a lot of your friends are having
babies now, like refeeling fomo.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Or anything, No, you are. I honestly like I would relief.
I felt nothing when I don't know, I just it's
such a that's such a horrible thing to say. Now
that I have two babies.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I'm like, because you love your babies, but.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
And like I think my friend's babies are all so
adorable and they're so cute. But I never left being
like I want one, right, okay, family, thank God, good riddance.
Like I remember one day we were a Kaitlyn and
Kane's pool and Raylan and Caitlyn had their babies because
their girls were like a few months apart, and my
girlfriend Beck was with me, and we were we went
there for a pool day. It's not a pool day

(26:59):
when there's baby no, And like Beck and I are
sitting by the pool having Margarita's and John and Kane
are in the pool drinking Margarita's and Kaitlyn and ray
are over here under a tent with these newborns, and
we never even spoke to their girls because and I
remember vividly saying tu bec like, yeah, this isn't for me,
like like what we're doing right now is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
That life is not for me. It's exhausting.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
And then fast forward probably I think that was like
two weeks later I found out I was pregnant.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Because we was all decided.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
You were like, this is great, We're just gonna have
cocktails for life and travel and like surprise, like we
literally the final party was a Brittany and.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Jason's place to end it.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, Kaitlyn and Brittany have birthdays, I think the same day.
It's like whatever, June nineteenth or whatever, so they always
had their birthday thing and so I think this final
one was Brittany's birthday party, so it had to be
sometime in June. Okay, And literally I drank all day.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
He hit all the drinks, but like I was dancing
all day too, So I was.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Having the time of your lifet over the time my
freaking Like John wanted to go home at like six pm,
and I was like, now we can sleep in the car.
We had a driver, and I'm like, you don't want
to rage it.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Why was he trying to do? He couldn't hang. You
couldn't hang like I mean when it was like an
all day party.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
It was an all day party, but he wasn't dancing
like I was. I was just like, hey, I'm living
my best life. I was the buzz as I was
drinking it, you know. So it's like I never got
to that point where you need to call it. Yeah,
I was just I was literally I would have danced
till four am.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Man, And a great moment to catch a wave like that.
I haven't had a wave like that in years where
I'm just like so in the moment and like feeling
myself and like life is good and no responsibilities and
you're with friends and you're safe and it's like just flowing. Yeah.
I haven't felt that way in a long time. Summer
just reminded me of plan a girl's week and just

(28:57):
like yeah, let it out.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Which like it's so fun and not that I don't know,
like not that all I miss that.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
I do miss that, but like.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
I don't know, I don't know what I'm saying if you.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Would want to go back, because now if you have
your daughters and you have this life, like it is
so full and so enriching and so absolutely miraculous and
a miracle and a blessing and like it changes you
in the best ways, but it is so hard. Sonny
started asking me this all the time. She's like, Mom,
I think she saw on a TV sho or something,
but she's like, Mom, is it hard to be a mom?
And I'm like, are you Yeah, it's so hard, but

(29:32):
it's the best. But it is the hardest because if
you're actually showing up and caring, which you know, it
takes that, it takes all your energy. Which I feel
like you.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Got to be a wife too if you're in that role. Yes,
it's it's all the things.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
And the husband needs you to be a wife too,
but it's like who is looking out for me? Everyone
needs me and I'm so glad you need me, but
like I need me to.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, it's a it's a whole thing. But now I
feel like we as moms, we do like like once
a year, maybe at least maybe once a quarter, we
need like a a halfway point of that day that
I had at Berney's.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Just unhinged all new.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
But I'm like, can could I even do that?

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Now?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Could I even like relax enough to like be that
exactly because even like we've done vacations where we don't
have the girls, but you're still stressed. We got the
time we didn't have we only had Presley, and like
I still couldn't even catch a buzz because I was
sitting there thinking, like what if something happens.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
And you're buzzed?

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, and like, granted we might be in Mexico, but like,
an emergency is an emergency, right, So you're gonna call
me from Tennessee and I'm in Mexico. You want to
be coherent buzzed or ship faced by the pool one
of the two. Like you gotta step up?

Speaker 2 (30:47):
What do you do?

Speaker 3 (30:48):
So I feel, yeah, I feel like can I even
do that?

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Now?

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Do I even fully relax? I know?

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Right? Do you feel like, Okay, so you guys went
into retirement drinking for a little bit, and do you
feel like that? Was it part of your anxiety? I
know Joe was saying he wanted to lose some weight.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
By the way, his cowboy shake is always great. I
mean he's got some I noticed he's in a little
unbtoning of the shirt on stage. Some pictures were the
full I'm like, I was, oh my god, I'm so
here for this.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
He that was I wasn't at that show. I should
have been because would have put me in a labor
for many reasons. But he said it was so incredibly hot,
like on a level that like wasn't probably actually safe
to be per Oh okay, like horrible.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
I just caught the shirt pictures.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, he took his boots off. I was just like,
he wasn't feeling isn't even drunk. Like I saw that
picture and I was like, okay, here's what. He's either
blacked out or it's really just that hot. And like
he was like, no, babe. He called me after the
show and he's like, you have no idea. I don't

(31:50):
know how I survived that concert. I don't know how
fans survived, because I mean the fans are all they're
packed in the.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Heat too, like and they're getting down with your elbow. Yeah,
it's just like, why'd heat everywhere?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
He was like, I took off my boots summer. He's like,
I took off my belt and my boots. I was like,
oh my god. And seeing the pictures, I was like,
holy shit, he did. He basically stripped down, just shy
of taking off his pants.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I love it because this is how I feel about John,
because like I don't know John super well, but we've
hung out several times, and like every time I'm with John,
I'm like, John is just so authentically himself and he's
so like sweet and he just does what he feels
in his soul and just does it. He just he's
unapologetically himself and he's so kind and so sweet. But

(32:36):
he's just like being him. Yeah, whatever he needs to
do in that moment for him, I just feel like
he's fine with doings.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
I feel like everyone should be a little bit more
like John.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
How is he?

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I wish I could be a little bit.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
More like I wish I could like give him a
little bit of me and take a little bit of
ham so we could have this perfect balance.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
What would you give of you?

Speaker 3 (32:53):
The patience?

Speaker 2 (32:55):
So he's lacking in patience, we said, he's.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Lacking in patience. Like he tried to teach me to
drive stick shift that lasted three hot seconds and it
was like get out of the car. I was like, Okay,
thanks for trying. Food.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, to give you a chance, no zilch. Do you
have to like figure it out fast or he's on.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
He's moved on, yes, but I did think, oh, he's
like superhuman with stuff.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
So he's like, you should be on my level. He's like, why, why,
why don't you understand this? I'm like, what.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Give me that manual or like at least a debriefing
on how to shift this car? I don't even know what.
You just put me in the driver's seat and I
have no idea how, and you're like, figure it out
in three seconds or I'm going to get pissed. I'm like, Okay,
this is not fair, but yeah, patience for him is.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
And then what would you take? What would he give you?
I would take just his.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Like, I'm not carelessness. What's the word I'm looking for free?
Care free, Yes, carefreness, carefulness, carelessness, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Just care for just care free, not like not.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
I'm such a people pleaser. He gives and he pleases you.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
He doesn't he we were talking about something back in
the day and we were talking about cancel culture. I
was like, John, are you ever worried about cancel culture?
He's like, you can't cancel somebody who's not gonna get
He's not gonna let himself get canceled, and I'm like,
oh my god, just like the fact that he's so
sure of himself and who he is, that he's like.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Great, matter of fact, and I'm not sorry for anything
because that was how I felt in the moment. And
I like, whether you say what you say or you
do what you did or what you know, it's just
like okay, and I'm over here, like, yeah, I would
love to go to the farmer's market. I hate to go,
but I just don't want to hurt your feelings, like

(34:44):
ask me just you know, just things that like like
why did I say that? Why did I why?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
You know what my you're saying is if at any
e ha, it's a hell no, Okay, I'm gonna make
a hat that says the difference, just to remind myself.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Me that so that I can't practice those daily.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Nah, you know if it's not a full body yes,
it's a.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
No yeah, but I need to practice.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Though sometimes I used to feel like if you don't
have a reason for canceling, then you have to go.
But like, honestly, just staying home and being calm is
a reason for not going to like stress yourself out.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
I feel like I have.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
I've gotten better in motherhood with say no to things.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
You said yes this interviewed you wish you would have
said no.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I was actually very excited about that. I was excited
about this. I feel like and I notice I didn't
bring the babies.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Which I would have loved, the child I would have
loved here.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
But also no, like just having a little calm, just yeah,
just to be able to like things that I can
comfortably do. And I'm actually like genuinely excited about not
just agreeing to because I feel like I have to
because it's the right thing to do. I don't know,
it's like sounds so dumb, but it's hard.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I think women struggle with a lot too. Yeah, we
really do have a little more John, and you get
a little more John.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
You know what. I don't want to fucking go sorry,
but actually doesn't sound fun nothing And then just like
and then that's yeah, yeah, like not don't feel awkward
about it.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Don't tell how it feels.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, like I get I get embarrassed, or not even embarrassed,
I just get like awkward when John is so point
blank and I'm like, sorry, he really didn't mean to
like that, and he's like, no.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah I did.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I'm just like.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, okay, But it's just and there's like I'm like,
why do I feel so responsible for himple? Yeah, And
it's just like when I really like, I'm actually just jealous.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
That he's so cool, then yeah, he does what he
needs to do. Okay. So you're having this epic party
at Brittany and Jason's. You're feeling yourself, You're in a moment,
you're in your own world, living your best life, rocking
it down, and you're like, I don't need a baby,
and then all of a sudden you're like, oh my god,
I'm pregnant. So then what happens now? How does their
life change now we're not partying anymore. That was hard?

(36:59):
So did you retire from alcohol? Is that why John
retired from alcohol? Because like, that was a moment made
It was a moment you would talk to people Max.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
I didn't retire from alcohol until after Presley. So I
had that first year of basically sobriety by myself, which
was hard. Like the day that I took a pregnancy test.
It was like a week or two after that party
of Brittany and Jason's and we were. We were leaving
that morning to go on the road with Brittany and
Jason and our my girlfriend Kenzie and her husband were

(37:27):
riding our bus. It was supposed to be a whole
like fun party weekend. We were going to North Carolina
and I took a test that morning and I was like,
holy shit, and like that's you don't get to choose
to eat. I mean, I guess you can't teach their own.
But like, my life changed in that five seconds.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
And that is so true. The second the test comes up,
if your life is changed.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
There wasnt so I can still you drink this weekend
there it was no like okay, and so it was
just I don't know, it's crazy and it was hard
because we our life was such a party.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
I was like, you know, every night at five o'clock
it was cocktail.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Hour, and it's so fun when you're young, you're on
the road, so fun. I mean, Michael and I were
living that life too, just like being on fun tours,
not having kids. It's an amazing season.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Sleep been until ten noon, whatever time you want.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
You're traveling with your best friend and your husband, so
it's like you're doing it together, so fun, making all
these memories. But you know what, I realized, it's like,
seasons don't last forever. Yeah, no, they really don't. Okay,
so it was hard. What happened? How did you navigate that?
Because you're on the road, everyone's probably hammered all the time.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
It was horrible. I'm not gonna lie that first like
probably six months was horrible. And because we didn't even
make it public until about six months, I had to
fake it, you know, fake the yetti with my straw
every show and fake being like it was around all
the drunk people. Was so horrible.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
I know, being sober around extremely drunk people.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Is oh my god, it is horrible. Yeah, so yeah,
I'm it through that first, which I The funny thing
is I used to joke after twenty twenty and twenty
twenty one ish, whenever it was that I can't add
the math in my brain. I used to make jokes
to my girlfriends like I need to get pregnant to
get sober, and here we are. So it was the

(39:19):
biggest blessing for sure, though, Like.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Did you take a break?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Oh my god, I'm still I still compared to what
I was in twenty twenty twenty twenty one, Like I'm
still on a break basically. Yeah, I mean I haven't.
I haven't had a buzz. I haven't had enough drinks
to where I've caught in a buzz since i've had Presley.
So we're I mean, Randa, that's only a year and
a half in, but.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
From the press is a year and a half. Yeah,
she a new one.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah, I know girl, Yeah, rock. I just got notified
that Pressy was a year and a half because I
stopped counting after twelve months. Yeah, I'm like she's ash,
you know, like she just turned a year or she's
almost two. That's kind of how I count. And so yeah,
I got a little notification from one of my apps
that I had like tracked her pregnancy with and it
was like Presley is eighteen months today and I was like,
holy shit, and that was last week.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Okay, two babies, Okay, babies. Yeah, so you've been busy.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah. I basically took a like a full break from
the booze. And then even after Presley, I had one
night that we had flown home. We charted a private
plane home from California. My parents were with us, we
had Presley, we had our nanny with us who travels
with us, and we had had we were celebrating something,

(40:32):
so we had had drinks on the plane, and when
we got back to the house, I was fine, like
totally fine, until I wasn't. And like I had this
moment with the next morning because I had blocked out
at some point, like unknowingly, because you don't know any
blackout And I woke up and I was so sick
to my stomach of the thought that I had blocked
out while I was home with my babies or baby

(40:54):
at the time. And that was the day that I
was like, okay, and I haven't had a buzz since,
Like I'll have a drink, but like my body like
won't even let me if. I don't think if I
had five vodka sodas in a row, I don't think
my body would physically let me, you know what I mean.
It's like it sounds weird.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
I mean, you're mentally just it's like you said, you
can't relax, you can't drink. Yeah, writay, Dawn decided to
hang it up for a minute.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Kind of same thing. We're just like, yeah, reset, I've
just you know, he struggled a lot with being sick
so much and not knowing what he was sick from,
Like I forget what it was. That the last thing
that he was just always sick. He was, you know,
trying to record albums and his voice was not co operating,
and you know, he was didn't like the way he looked.

(41:43):
He was kind of getting a little out of shape
here and there, and you know it's like guys bounce
back so quick. Like he could, you know, take a
week off and then eat healthy and lose ten pounds,
I know, you know, but he would do that. And
then the final thing was something he had something too
many things that like I literally can't even figure out

(42:04):
the one thing that really set him off. He had
like a diabetes scare. And so yeah, it was kind
of just a I think Presley was about six months now, babe.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Once you have that baby too, you start like reevaluating
and all everything.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
I mean, you want to be healthy for your kids. Yeah,
it's like and that's the age too, I feel.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Like, feel good because you and they need your attention.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
And they don't care if you're hungover. It's definitely not
I don't.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
They really don't care.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
And she was getting to that age where she was
starting to be like interactive with you and fun, and
I think for both of us it was just like
this moment of you know, just a little bit of
a reality check maybe, And so I think he did
like a solid six months that's a great reset. I mean,
it was fantastic. It was the best definitely the best

(42:50):
six months that we've ever had together as a couple,
aside from any other reason, but just like we were
both so present and healthy, and you know, it's like
we were eating better and we were just you wake
up and you feel good and you know there's there's
no arguments because you're not drunk making up whatever stupid shit.
You know, It's just like it was. Life was so great,

(43:13):
and like it still is now. You know. It's we've
we've John's out of retirement, like he says whatever, he's
you know, but we are nowhere near drinking like we
were before.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Which it's nice to have a reset that you can
come back in.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Yeah, a new bait girl man like stepping back and
realizing too how much we just got carried away in
twenty twenty and after we're like holy yeah, okay, and
then talking to friends who were all in the same page.
It's just like, wow, well I didn't like.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
The alcohol rate spike like exponentially because I know we
had read We're just sitting at home, you know with
no it did not like probably had his best business
years of easily easily Yeah, I know it was.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
I feel like too after after twenty twenty, I feel
like there were so many art that came out too
saying like, you know, I'm taking I don't know, I
know there was a handful.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yes, but like Jay Coohen took a break, I know
Shay from I want to say, yeah, I mean Michael
took a break and still is on a.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Alcohol from social media. Yeah, like people were like we
got a reset that what happens you know?

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Well so and also like the touring industry shut down
and everyone's careers weren't happening, and there's a lot of
fear there. So it's like you're kind of coping and
you're still having fun, but it's just like a lot
going on. It was so easy to just have too
much fun exactly. That was the best easiest choice in
the most fun choice. Yeah, I know. Okay, So now
you're a mom and how is being a mom? After

(44:43):
like not like not being someone who was like, you're
dying to be a mom, but then wanted to be
a mom and then you go back my life.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
It's my whole identity, I.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Know, tell me about it, tell me what you love
about it. But your day to day is like and
how you are now with two.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
It's I mean, I feel like two is. It's not
the same as one at all by any means. But
it's not as hard as I thought it was going
to be. I'm gonna have my days, but I'm fortunate
to have help.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Because I do.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
I work from home now and so I'm able to
be home with both the girls and even with Presley.
I was home a lot since I switched from doing
hair to now doing like, you know, the influencing a
great calls.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Are you keep it up too? I mean, like you
are keeping it up. It is a lot to keep
up because I try to like dabble in influencing from
on it and I was like, I don't have good
enough style. I don't know what's in style. I don't
even know how to tell people to dress because I
can barely dress myself because at the time I put
stuff together like this is an disaster. It's a hitter miss.
But it's like you have to be all the things
to be a great influencer, like yourself. Like, I'm just

(45:42):
gonna throw this on you because this is true. You're beautiful,
you're smart, you're an amazing wife and mother. You're a
great companion to John. But also you are like a
style queen. You you know what to wear, you know
what to buy. You tell everyone the useful hacks like
baby stuff, clothes, travel like you know the things people
need and then you share it, which takes a lot
of energy, always sharing.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
I'm probably a girl who's amazing. Her name is Shelby.
I hired her like back in October to help me
with linking and stuff because I can't.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
It's like to let everybody know all the things all
the time.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
It is a lot.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
It's a lot.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
And the more followers you get, the more questions you get,
the more.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
You post anything, like even just a regular picture, what
are you wearing to have one?

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Tell me about your Jory's I love it.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
It's just a lot. Yeah, no, it's definitely a lot.
And I never thought that I would be an influencer,
and an influencer say it with me. I am an influencer.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
I am an influencer. I am an incredible influencer, definitely incredible,
because I'm not I'm just I'm shy. You are more
of an introvert. You're shy, Yes, oh my god, you are.
I think I could not be more opposite of John
party like. That's why we work so well. He is
front and center, spotlight, life of the party personality. I

(47:00):
am like, I could be home alone for twenty days,
not care about seeing a single soul.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
But you're so funny, You're so social, and you have
so many friends.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
They're probably only ten friends.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Well, I like, you're my friend. I kind of as
a friend. I know, we don't hang out. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
It's I'm just not like if you give me. If
you were like, hey, do you want to go to
this event tonight, I'd be like no. I'd probably say yeah,
and then I'd make up an excuse of why couldn't
go later because I had to get the social anxiety.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Someone do you bail at the end, You got to
bail at the beginning.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
I know. So I'm working on I'm working on this.
A mom is giving me excuses. You can I don't
have a sitter. Sorry, And that's the truth.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
I mean, it's just.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
The time in fact, like I don't evenings, I don't
have babysitter. Sorry, Like I can't come check me in
for noon lunch.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
That'd be great. Yeah, But now my mom life is everything.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
All life is everything. Mom life is everything that I
never knew I needed or I want. I feel like,
I don't know, it's like so fulfilling and not that
life prior wasn't. But I feel like, you know, like
you said, there's seasons and this is this is a
new long season. This is a forever season. But I
don't know, it's just fun and I I you got

(48:17):
these little humans that they're so funny. And Pressley's in
that personality phase now where she's talking and we just
potty trained her, and I don't know, just all these
sweet little things that you're like, you love your spouse
and you love your family, but having this little being
that relies on you for life, for survival, I don't know,
it's so sweet. It is.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
So how was your birthing experience with Senna?

Speaker 3 (48:41):
It was incredible. It was Presley was easy. Sienna was easier.
How so, like two pushes out.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
She came out.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
She came perfect head shape, like the doctor's like, look
at her beautiful head shape. I mean she was not
in the birth canal for any length of time. I
don't think. I think she just shot right through.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
But do you enjoy giving birth?

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Like? Is that it?

Speaker 2 (49:04):
It's very powerful?

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Right?

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yes? And I had the epidural, but I turned it down.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
You did it without the epidural?

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Well no, no, no, no. I did the epidural, but
I had them turn it down feluse I wanted to
feel a little bit. Then I turned it back up
at the very end. I was like, yeah, no, we're
going to actually double that again. Cranky because I didn't
I went with Presley, I didn't get to experience labor
contract I didn't really. I went in and I got
induced on her actual due date. But I also had
the flu, so I think I felt nothing with her

(49:34):
like I didn't. They must have had my epidural cranked
up to the max with her because I felt zilch oka.
But still it was a great experience. And then with Sienna,
I wanted to I was like, I want to go
in the labor on my own, and then I had
to battle. This whole thing of John was going to
be gone for six days literally during her due date,

(49:55):
and so it was like do I go in early
and get induced or do I risk her coming well
is gone and potentially.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Missing thoughts like this. It's this whole like gambling game
and you literally have to just gamble.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Yeah, so you gambled. I gambled gambling. I actually said
a lot of prayers for her to come early on
her own, and she did, which was crazy.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
So so John was there. He was there, He was
He was supposed.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
To leave, like the seventeenth for six days or so
for straight shows, not like a three day weekend and
a break. He was gone for show every night, a
show with Kane at Fenway, which I'm like, you can't
miss that, Like, if baby comes, you get a free pass.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
She'll be fine. These are the struggles.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Of the.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
First you know. So but it I meaned, it's a
huge thing. Yeah, but you're weighing out, like you can't
like not show up and do the job that you're
committed to with all these sounds old people.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
You know, it's not just kidding meeting if your daughter. Yeah,
it's such a Yeah, I'm like I don't want you
to have to cancel shows because you there's how many
thousands of tickets you selled and people that plan for
these shows. And yes, then who's to say you'll even
get back on a flight in time, right, even if
you chart our private plane that you're going to fork
out sixty thousand dollars right to still potentially miss the
birth of your child, Like.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
And then you've disappointed the show. It's just yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
So and I had people DM me like, please tell
me John's still going to be at the show, and
I'm like, like, I have a baby now, I'm like
over there. So I'm rooting for you, guys. I hope
he'll be there for you. Yeah, I'll try to get
this kid out if I can. And I know it's
like everyone was so supportive. Yeah, Like it worked out,
Like I literally pray, pray, pray, freaking prayed for those

(51:35):
maaybe to come early. For multiple reasons for John to
be able to be there. I wanted to experience if
this is our last kid, which it may be. I
don't know if we're going to have another one, but
I wanted to experience labor and contractions, and I wanted
to feel all those things. I didn't missed all of
that with Presley, and sure I sure felt that shit.
I was laying on the couch on the fifteenth of

(51:55):
July and I ended gotten a chiropractic adjustment that earlier
that day, and I was like, what the fuck was that?
What was that?

Speaker 2 (52:04):
That hurt?

Speaker 3 (52:05):
And yeah, it's sorry, until I just dropped the F bomb,
it's fine. I knew in an instant that I was like,
this is a contraction. This is a real one. Like,
this isn't Braxton Hicks. This is because I've been having
those for like three months. And so I started timing
them and by eleven pm that night that was like
three pm. By eleven pm that night, they were every

(52:27):
five minutes, lasting a minute, with like a few random
ones in between. And I was like, this is so
exciting but also like terrifying. And so we went to
the hospital midnight.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
We checked in.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
They kept me for an hour just to monitor before
they're like whatever, get a room, puts you in a room,
and sure enough I dilated like a centimeter or whatever
the what is it? It's ten yeah centimeters, right.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
I think ten tin measurement. I think it's ten centimeters.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
I just know it's one through ten, but I don't
know what, like is it Isn't it crazy?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Body saying that that'smi. It's wild.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
The body says crazy and then it just bounces back
and then it just goes right back. It's un believable.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Yeah, Okay, so.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
They're like, yes, born the sixteenth, the date of an
I supposed to leave. Yeah, and I had begged, I
had begged by doctor to induce me on the sixteenth,
which she said no because it was unnecessary. Yeah, She's like,
unless you have a medical indication, we can't like, we
can't do this, Like, sorry, sorry, your husband not our problem.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Then said I'm just like, good, have a reason to
have it.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
So I had, you know, I literally up until that
same freaking warning of this, of the fifteenth, I had
emailed them like can we strip my membrane tomorrow? Can
I do? What can I do? Take something like yeah,
And so I just thought that was so cool. So yeah,
she came on her own eleven forty seven the next

(53:55):
morning on the sixteenth man and then John got to
see her. John actually had a show that night or
the next night in town. So I didn't count that
one as a show because it was like a thirty
minute private gig. And so he went and did that show,
came back to the hospital, then he left the next day. Oh,
here we are, and here we are later weeks later.

(54:17):
Life is great, everything's amazing.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
And John hasn't been here for twenty days.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
John, he's been gone for like six days. Okay, he's
gone for a total of twenty.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
So we're we're on the crowning.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
I know he's counting, not counting, just county ticks seven
to see if we get if we don't have any
more ticks in the next har many days until he
comes home, then I'm he's the culprit.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, exactly though. Okay, so we're already like an hour.
I want to talk to you forever, but I just
want to I want to wrap up with just a

(55:02):
few questions also, like how do you keep what do
you do for yourself to make sure you get your recharge?
And then what do you and John do together to
make sure y'all get your recharge? Not that you're doing
any of that, it's right, maybe just keep your head
above water.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
I what do I do? I cancel plans after I agree.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
That's great, Just cancel them sooner. Just don't say yes.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
I do say yes. I just I take like my
me time. And you know, because I'm fortunate enough to
have help with the girls, and so as guilty as
I feel sometimes not being with them because I am home,
I will take that time to go sit in my
room in the dark, like lights off, my meditation music on,

(55:41):
even if I'm answering emails and stuff.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Still you just calm your body down.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Yeah, good for you, the whole energy thing. It's just
like I feel like it's so important and I'm getting
just getting out, getting away. Like week three of Sanna
bean Born, I I left the house for the first time,
and I left her with Autumn and both the girls,
and I remember sending Autumn of voice memo just thanking her,

(56:07):
which she's doing her job, like you know, she's paid
to help out with the kids. And I literally felt
the need to send her a voice memo thanking her
for being someone that I could trust the girls with.
It's huge because I needed that time to get away,
and like I was like, you don't know how important
this is for my mental health, and like you know.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
I'm so glad you're saying that for moms too. Those
we're going to cry. It is a big deal though,
And I feel like moms sacrificed themselves all the time
because this baby needs you. And but also if you're
not able to give, then it's going to affect the children.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Everyone around you. Yeah, especially the babies because they feed
off your energy, especially as a couple. You know, It's
like I tell John, like who we are at home
around them, whether they're six days old or six years old,
kids feed off energy. If everyone feeds off energy, like
you know, it doesn't matter young or old. That's a
it's a real thing. You know. If I'm angry or

(57:10):
cranky or irritable whatever, John he knows and he feels it,
probably not feel it, yeah, And then then he is,
you know, defensive of what did I do? And I'm like,
it's not you, it's just me. Just let me be
Let me just be quiet and angry and irritable for
ten minutes. I'm gonna go outside and do it.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
That's what I tell Michael. Sometimes I'm literally like and
it hasn't happened many times, Bega. I have now that
Sonny's older, too, Like I take time for myself. I
go to yoga, I like vegitate. I I do these
podcasts where I talk to other grown women and like
share life and feel, you know, like good about myself
and my mental health, but and like talk about things
that we need to talk about to make sure that

(57:46):
we're you know, surviving good.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
But I feel like I've told Michael that several times.
I'm like, listen, I am just at the end of
my rope. I'm super upset right now. I'm not for
any particular reason other than I've run out of juice.
So like, please don't make me stay here. You have
to take over in this moment because I need to
just go have five minutes. Five minutes to calm myself down.
I just need to calm myself.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
That then it's going to turn into something because if
you don't let me go call myself now right now,
we're all gonna feel it. Yeah, then we're gonna make
it into something. Okay, you don't want that, So.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
I'm going to walk outside and you're going to handle this, yeah,
because it's true.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
It's the working out. Like obviously I can't fully work
out yet, but like last week, I felt it in
my bones.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
I needed to move my body.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Yeah, and I'm like, I'm going to get hate for
this if my doctor knows that I went and walked
on the treadmill. But like I need for my for
myself to move and just to have that, you know.
It's like the time, like you said, with your yoga
and or meditation whatever, even if it's five minutes to
just sit outside and drink your coffee in the morning,
just deep breathe, just yes, look at a brush of hair,

(58:47):
look at the look at the beautiful a tree and
a bird, or like calm down, even like doing dishes
sometimes for me therapeutic as much as.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
I hate it. No, it is like because you're in
that moment and that's what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Yeah, that that for you know, just making sure you
take time for yourself to check yourself that you're good
for motherhood, life, whatever. And then for John and I, yeah,
we haven't had any chance to get away. Is hard.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
It is hard if you're hard because he's gone. Yeah,
it's a lot of energy what he's doing. It's a
lot of energy what you're doing at home. To actually
find some time where you're not just you need it
with all your energy. Yeah, prior to six weeks. Let
me come on, that's kind of not a fair question
to asking you have a six week old. Yeah, but
we did.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
We had like mandatory date nights on Tuesdays that we
we just knew we scheduled.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
That's all I'll care for.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
And whether we went to our you know, property that
we're building on right now and just sat and looked
at construction sites, you know, or if we went to
an actual date night in town and got dressed up halftime,
we would cancel at five pm because neither one of
us wanted to get ready and leave exactly. But knowing
that you have that designated.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Time to just talk and catch up.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Yeah, so whether you're sitting at home, whatever, but like
just knowing that you have that time cut out, and
then you know, we need to schedule. We just talked
about this last week. We need to schedule like a
trip just us, which is hard to do especially right now.
On this way, you can finish the tour and maybe
let the baby get to stay less. I'm like, well,
check back in the twenty twenty five, maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
After Christmas holidays are upon us.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
But just you know, until like at the end of
the day, you know, we're so bad about being on
our phones. I know, and John actually hasn't been on
Instagram for like a week really, and so I'm like,
I need to practice that because at the end of
the day, just you lay in bed and instead of
talking to each other, we're just like growing and like
we're talking to each other about things that we're seeing
on Instagram. He do all these acrobatics across the whole arena.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
It's amazing, right, But like just.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Taking that away and actually I knowing together, I don't know,
It's it's easier said than done. I feel like because
it is such a thing, and I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Like I'm super aware of not trying to be on
the phone in front of standing all the time. But
I'm with her all the time, and it is such
a and I'm grateful that I get to be with
her at the time, but it is such a habit
of just like, oh my god, I just my brain
wants to check out for a minute. Every now and
then I'll just find myself scro only you don't even
know you're doing it. I'm like, what am I doing now?

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
It's so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
And then I try to tell myself not to do it,
and I get this like urge to scroll. It's such
a horrible drug.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
It's so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
I mean, it really is. What are our kids seeing?
You know? I know, and I try and I know,
and we were all trying not to constantly be on it,
but it's just so available and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Sod it is and it's it is addicting. It's all
consuming totally. I feel like even when I'm on my
phone just to like take videos at Pressley, that's like,
that's what she's saying. She doesn't know that I'm not
on Instagram, right, she just sees my phone with my
butterfly case in her face. Yeah, you know, And I'm like,
oh my god, I gotta put this down, I know,
and like get an old school camcorder or something to

(01:01:41):
document these memories, because it is it's a whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
It's a whole new world that we're dealing with.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
The detox from alcohol and social media, social media just
the phone in general.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
So you're already live in the dream. It's like Michael
and I will send me memes to each other like Okay,
this is romance, sell everything, move too far man, like
live off the l which you are.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Yeah, social media, so it's still freaking creeps in there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
I just you're doing great summer.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
You know, you working on it. One day at a time, Okay,
one day.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
At a time. You're crushing the game. I'm so happy
to see you and catch up. It means so much
to me that you came here. I mean, I know
how hard this is to get out of the house
with a tailbone, an injured tailbone. Mine's on the up
and up. So my accident, let's just talk about our
tawbones and then I'll wrap this up because this is
especially moms are going to relate to yoga. Mine was

(01:02:32):
completely unnecessary. Senday and I went to the jump park.
She was jumping off the trapeze. I was like, oh
my god, I need to have this freedom in my
life and fly on the trapeze. And so she flies
and then it's like in the middle of the day,
so it's kind of dead. There's no one helping us there.
And I'm sure there's a rule that said do not
do this without someone from the trap, from the gym
to help you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
To be broken.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Did not know that that was a rule. And I
was like, I'm athletic, I do yoga, I did gymnastics.
I like this is Nope, this is my risk factor.
Like I said, I assess risk. There was zero risk
for me. I saw no risk. I'm like, I'm going
to just hop on the trapeze and I'm gonna fly
and I'm going to feel, you know, them beneath my wings.
So as I'm out there midway trapeze, I'm like, I
need to go back for more. I need to get

(01:03:10):
a bigger push and like push myself farther into flight
because this feels so good. And I start flying back
there and there's no person there to help me or
to tell me or anything, and I slam into the wall,
like hit the wooden wall, which is a tiny cushion,
and I hit my but sills right below in my back.
I'm just so glad I didn't in my back in
a wheelchair. Apparently, I have no idea. I have no idea.

(01:03:32):
I'm definitely not a doctor. But I literally was like
I broke my tailbone. I could not really ben, I
couldn't walk, could not sit down. It was so excruciating.
My chiropractor, though, randomly said it's just contracting, because I
yours might be the tail because if you have the
tail issue, it can get moved around, and if it
moves the wrong position, then you have to like, yeah, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Yeah, I've had had all the things, You've had some procedures,
all the things done.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
So I think yours is actually the tail because mine
is contracted, so adjusting it kind of helps it uncondires.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Just like all the ligaments and stuff that are pulling
on it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Just like all crammed together.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
But yours is your actual mine's the joint, and so
it's I think it's related to the relax and hormone
from pregnancy, just causing it to be like flimsy in
there is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
There, but will it heal up? I don't know, Summer,
I know, like they say, they don't know, I don't know. MRI.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
That I sat in there crying over my future daughter's
heartbreaks was to see if there were really anything that obvious.
And they're like, no, it just shows inflammation, which could
be from various things, but there was no like obvious
fracture or whatever. And so basically they're like, we can
do injections with like a like an epidural injection to
numb it, but it's still which I'm seeing, Okay, so

(01:04:43):
then what then I just have damage it right. Then
I further hurt myself because I don't feel the pain,
so I just sit and unknowingly do worse things, and
they're like, yeah, we kind of just like don't really know,
so you just have to live with this, kind.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Of just waiting to see.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
We're gonna give it a few months for my hormone
to rebalance because once that relax and hormone is out
of your body, which you can't be breastfeeding or pumping,
which I'm not because the pain is so excruciating of
my tailbone that I'm like, sorry, kids, you get in
formula because Mommy needs to heal. Mom needs to heal. Yeah,
So hopefully by next month I'm more balanced and everything
stiffens up again, so all your joints go back to

(01:05:20):
like the normal stiffness that they should be. Oh my god,
because you're not preparing to birth a child anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Pain.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Yes, I mean it's like throbbing, but yeah, so once
that next month, I'm gonna go to the whole thing
where they stick their finger in your booty whole and
literally pull your tailbone out like down, not not physically
out of your buttle, but it gets tucked up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
In there because it's so flimsy that it just goes
in there and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
You can feel it. I've had it done like five times.
It just never stayed because my does it hurt the
initial flick? No, it feels like you can't feel anything pure,
not even relief. You don't even know until you go
back and sit down again. Afterwards they do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
It, but then it gets flimsy again and it gets
back in.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Yeah. Like it's the most bizarre thing because you literally
don't feel it. You don't feel them. It's so I
can't even describe it, but afterwards you feel you should
try it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
I mean, I'm gonna try to.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Pick the most bizarre thing that you literally can't really
feel what they're.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Doing as a woman after you have a baby and
all this stuff and just in general, like your body
you just found they were just like here, get in there.
I mean, I have no shame in my you do whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
You cannot embarrass me at this point. You I have
been through all the things. I'm like, you gotta stick
your finger in my butt and yank on my tailbone.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Let's go. Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
And that's the clip that we will be pasting summer.
Like what you know, there's just you gotta do what
you gotta do, what you gotta do, yeah, yeah, and
you gotta get it done. I'm gonna be doing that
again next month.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
I'm going to back. I'm wishing you all the best.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
I am so sorry for you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
God yours is mine is on the up and up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
I'm so sorry. And you are such a trooper and
you are a true queen in summer. Thank you so
much for coming back on this was so much. And
then I always wrap up with leave your light, and
it's just what do you want people to know? Super
open ended? Just be like, just be, like I say
with my girls, let them. I love that, let them
to explain that a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Just you know, you can't like bubble wrap your kids.
You can't bubble wrap yourself. So just let them do
the things obviously to you know a degree. I'm gotta go,
let her play with the blowtorch. But like, just be,
you know, let your kids be. Let them experience things
in life, and the same for me, like experience things
for myself and in marriage and family and everything, like

(01:07:39):
be present, be mindful, be open, just be I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
I love that that even makes sense it does. Let life.
Let like just kind of show up and be in
there and don't try to make it always into something.
Just kind of experience it and enjoy it overthink it. Yeah,
I want to cry, you want to cry.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
I've passed.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Now, it passed. I held it in.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
I held it. It's like we have to and then you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Missed your window stay in my way there and I
missed it. That's a big disappointment for me. When I
missed my window of having to go to the bathroom,
the absolute worst. That's like a that's a because it
won't come back for me that day, Like that is
a reason to fight. Do you feel that? Wait, if
you're if you miss your window, is it gone? It's gone.
I can't get it back.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
And then I'm like, really no, it's it's actually really disappointing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
It's so disappointing. It's like a major it's an adult
let down.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
I think that's just a female thing too, because John
would never have that issue.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Oh yeah, Michael is always He's regular, anytime, no problem.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
What's it like, like, I'll try again tomorrow at nine am.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
I'm like, I have to have my coffee. I don't
I love coffee for the experience of it. But I'm
really loving coffeecause any system my system to flow for
what happens. Yeah, that's it. I need a flow vacation.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
It has to be the same. Yeah, the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
I love you, Summer summer.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Potty if we laugh at her, oh changing my Instagram
handle the summer partty. Oh my god, I love you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
I hope you get that tablet fixed in a good
v M.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
I love you so much. Next next time, I will
not be dealing with these shoes.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Seven years and seven years. You're amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Thank how so much.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
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