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April 13, 2020 36 mins

On this episode, Movie Mike talks about actors who starred in movies together but in real life hated each other and had beefs at some point. From The Rock and Vin Diesel to Billy Murray and Lucy Lu. Mike also debuts a new segment called the Underrated Movie of the Week which features this week A Goofy Movie that is now streaming on Disney+. Mike also continues his list of Top 10 Movies Of All-time and reviews his No. 8 movie: No Country for Old Men starring Tommy Lee Jones, Javier Bardem, Josh Brolin and directed by The Coen Brothers.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome back to Movie Mix Movie Podcast. I
am movie Mic on Twitter and Instagram at Mike Destro.
Got a great episode for you guys this week. I
am talking about actors who hated each other in movies.
So maybe you saw them on the big screen, you're thinking, man,
those actors worked really well together, but behind the scenes
that there were some stuff going down and they hated

(00:22):
each other's guts. I'm also gonna throw in some directors
who didn't get along with some of their stars. And
there's even one of a list actor who just let
somebody on the set have it and one of my
favorite clips of all time that I'll get into on
that one. I'm also trying to got a segment this
week called the Underrated Movie of a Week. Well, I'll
review a movie that came out a while ago, in

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this case twenty five years ago, and it's a Disney
movie that maybe you haven't seen, but now it's streaming
on Disney Plus and I want to share that movie
with you. And I'm also continuing my reviews of my
top ten movies of all time this week. I'm getting
to number eight, which is a movie from two thousand
seven called No. Country for Old in all that coming
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Movie Mi Movie Podcast. Alright, today we're talking about actors
who hated each other, so on the big screen they
look like best of friends. They look like they're getting along.
They look like they're doing a movie together, but behind

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the scenes there's some really intense friction. Some of these
they have punches throwing. Some of these they have named
being called. So I'll get into all of these, and
I also want to throw in some directors who had
better relationships with actors well, and in particular where this
person said something pretty vicious about a director and it
ended up really not being true, So we'll get into

(02:30):
that one. And then there's also some of these that
I speculate we're just made up to kind of promote
the movie and make it seem like there's some stuff
going on behind the scenes. They put that stuff out there,
like on Instagram to get people talking about the movie.
So I think some of these were maybe just kind
of built up as a beef, but there maybe really
wasn't anything there the whole time. But the first one

(02:50):
I want to get into is Robert Downey Jr. And
Terence Howard, who we're both in the Original Iron Man,
so pretty much would kick off all of Marvel and
maybe you forget Terrence Howard was in that very first one.
He played war Machine in the original Iron Man. He
didn't actually suit up in the movie, but it was
supposed to be his role that Don Cheetle took on

(03:11):
and played for the entire rest of the m c U.
And here you have Terence Howard. So what happened with
him It was a mix of his relationship with Robert
Downey Jr. And also his relationship with Marvel. Because everything
was fine when the movie happened. They actually sought out
Terence Howard to have him in the movie. He was

(03:32):
having pretty big success round that time. He had done
Hustle and Flow, and they were like, Okay, we want
to go after Robert Downey executing. They wanted to go
after Terrence Howard. They got him first, and then Terrence
Howard is actually the one who recommended Robert Downey Jr.
From Iron Man, so he says, so Terrence Howard actually
said that he took a million dollars less To get

(03:52):
his friend Robert Downey Jr. That part. So they did
the movie together. It came out great, They're gonna do
iron Man too, And that's when things got a little
rough because they ended up casting Robert Downey Junior again,
gave him a bunch of money, but they wanted to
scale back Terrence Howard's character in the movie because they
thought he didn't really do so well. They thought he

(04:13):
didn't play the character like if they wanted so. Terrence
Howard got mad and he's like, hey, Robert Downey Jr.
I kind of wouldn't need you to do for me
what I did for you and have my back here,
And he says allegedly that Robert Downey Junior didn't have
his back and that he took the money for him
and didn't help Terrence Howard out at all. So they

(04:33):
ended up casting Don Cheetle instead in his place. Terrence
Howard held onto that for a pretty long while. They
didn't talk. They were just mad at each other. Anytime
Terrence Howard would get asked about it an interviews, he
would call out Robert Downey Junior, and Robert Downey Junior
was like, you know, I had no decision in that,
he said, I'm not the one who chose to move
on without Terrence Howard. None of that was on me.

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And it was until like years years later where they
ended up meeting and taking a picture together and ter
as Howard Captain. They're like, hey, me and Robert Downy
Junior here together again, it feels cool to be hanging out.
So allegedly the beef was squashed, but it still seems
like Terrence Howard is just kind of a hard guy
to work with, because Marvel came out later saying he
was very hot headed and just didn't get along with

(05:17):
what they were trying to do. Because really, everybody from
that first Iron Man movie went on to be a
part of the entire franchise, like all those people involved
in that one went on to have a role either
in the movies or directing the movies, and it was
really him who was the only one who got kicked
out from there. So maybe he was kind of a hothead,
and it wasn't so much that he didn't get along

(05:39):
with Robert Downey Jr. After that and he didn't fight
for him. I think in this case, he maybe felt
that Robert Downey Jr. Owed him something at some point,
and the fact that he became such a big star
from that movie really kind of overcasted his performance. He
was mad at that, so I think it's more of
his attitude on this one. This next one was pretty
crazy because maybe you don't even remember that this was

(05:59):
even a beef and maybe even when you hear this
beef now, you can't believe that it actually went down.
But back when they remade the Charlie's Angels movies in
two thousand, they cast Bill Murray as Bosley, and they
cast a whole new group of Angels, and one in
particular was Lucy Lou. Now, they didn't get along on set,
and apparently it's because Bill Murray criticized the way Lucy

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Loeu would act. Now, Bill Murray he's a notorious for
kind of being a really weird dude. He's the kind
of guy who sometimes, like back in the day when
he was doing Ghostbusters, they didn't even know he was
going to show up, Like they cast him in the part,
they heard nothing from him, and then the first day
of filming he shows up. So he's just a crazy
guy altogether. There's a lot of this mystery around Bill Murray,

(06:42):
and acting is something he just takes. When he's in there,
he's super dialed in, so he goes in and he
knows what he wants. And apparently whenever him and Lucy
Lou were doing scenes together, he was kind of criticizing
her technique. He would even like kind of yell at
her and me like what are you, Like, what are
you doing here? Like you can't act? And of course
Lucy Lou is not gonna take that lightly, so they

(07:03):
ended up just getting into really heated exchanges all the time,
and there was this one time in particular where he
was like so upset with their performance, straight up told
her that, hey, you're not doing your job right, like
you have no acting technique. That she got so mad
she just started throwing punches at Bill Murray so bad
that the crew ended up having like the pull them apart,

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and it was just really hard for them to work
together on this movie. So it's Bill Murray straight up
just verbally attacking Lucy Lou and then Lucy Lou just
getting so fed up with it. So they ended up
doing another Charlie Dangerous movie in two thousand and three,
and they actually brought Bernie mackinstead to play the role
of Bosley instead of Bill Murray. It was rumored that
it was because his relationship with Lucy Lou, but later

(07:45):
he ended up saying that got a bit blown out
of proportions that they did get into it on set,
but that wasn't the reason he left the movie. He
said they ended up making peace and ended up getting
to know each other after this, but it looked like
all this set of Charlie angels, they were not good.
This next one is one of my favorites because I'm
a big fan of Jim Carey. I think the Riddler
is just this awesome character, and I think Jim Carrey

(08:07):
played it pretty well. He did make it pretty comedic.
He made it Jim Carey, So I think for that
reason maybe that movie as a whole is viewed kind
of cheesy. But he was cast alongside Tommy Lee Jones,
who played two Face in the movie, which I thought
he did a really great to face, mainly because this
movie has just elements of the comic book. It's very cartoony,

(08:28):
it's very bright, so all of that stuff is out there,
and it's kind of even weird to think Tommy Lee
Jones now doing a comic book movie. He's a very
serious guy. He's kind of known of being not the
warmest person on set. He's very stoic, and even now
in movies do you just see him, he just kind
of has that Tommy Lee Jones face. So back in
the day when Jim Carrey was pretty much at the

(08:49):
height of his career when he got cast and Batman,
you got paid millions of dollars to do this, and
everybody was just wanting to see his portrayal of the Riddlers.
So Jim Carrey goes into this movie being Jim Carey.
He's crazy, he's funny, he does all kinds of things
when he's on set. And apparently Tommy Lee Jones was
not a fan of his, like he hated working alongside

(09:10):
with him because he found him annoying and he found
his acting style just not to be like a real actor.
So they're doing the movie together. They're about to do
this really big scene the following day, but the night before,
Jim Carrey goes out to dinner and he actually sees
Tommy Lee Jones they're having dinner, and goes up to
talk to him. So Jim Carrey goes up in the
restaurant just to tell him hello. It's like, hey, I

(09:32):
see my co worker out at the restaurant. I'm gonna
tell him what's up. And when Tommy Lee Jones looks
at him, he just gives him this really mean face
and then tells him, I hate you, like I don't
really like you, I can't stand your befo. Moon is
actually what Jim Carrey later said that he told him.
And even after that, Jim Carrey is like, you know what,
He's a phenomenal actor. I was just happy to work

(09:52):
with him. So I said, I wanted to throw a
director in here. And this is probably one of the
biggest actor director feuds of all time time and it
comes actually from one of my favorite franchises, at least
early on, and it's the Transformer series who were directed
by Michael Bay, which Michael Bay is known for doing
really big explosion movies and just kind of being that

(10:13):
action guy. And he really just kind of went all
out with the Transformers movies and was able to bring
these movies to live, I think, unlike anybody else could
have done. And he has these two stars. He has
child A Buff and Megan Fox, who Megan Fox really
her career took off because of these movies. I think
Shila Buff was already a pretty well established actor, but

(10:34):
I think he went to a list after these. But
she just kind of came out a lot and said
bad things about Michael Bay. She said he wants to
be like Hitler on his sets, and he is so
he's like a nightmare to work for. But when you
get him away from the set and he's not in
director mode, I kind of really enjoy his personality. But
he's so awkward, so helplessly awkward. He has no social

(10:58):
skills at all, and endearing to watch him. Now she
kind of comes back around at the end of that like, Oh,
it's just because when he's in director moment, he's a jerk.
When you can't call somebody hitler, like you can't, that's
not a thing you can say, and try to get
this roundabout compliment into the end and saying like, oh,
he's just socially awkward. No, you called him hitler as

(11:19):
a director. So the backlash of that was pretty much
almost immediate, and after those first two Transformers movies, she
was quickly replaced and her character was never really mentioned
again in the Transformers franchise, and that was pretty crazy
that she never came back, And even Michael Bay was like,
I actually wasn't hurt to buy what she said. He
said that Megan just says things to get a response

(11:40):
from people, and he even said she texted him after that,
like hoping that he was doing well that it was
all just a big thing because their family and that's
what happens. But she never returns to the franchise. I
think over time the franchise would have benefited having her
around and keeping Shotla Buff around. I still think the
reboots were pretty okay. But those first two movies, man,

(12:02):
those are really good. So this would may ruin a
movie for you. Not a spoiler, but it just made
ruin a movie because of what actually happened with these
two actors. But apparently Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams did
not get along on the set of The Notebook, which
you think, oh, that's the most romantic movie of all
the time. Of course they loved each other, and yes
they did end up dating for three years after the movie,

(12:25):
but they actually didn't get along on set, so much
so that Ryan Gosling went to the director and said, hey,
can you find me another actress to work with off camera?
I just I'm not feeling it with Rachel McAdams, And
the director was like, what are you talking about it.
Ryan Gosling trade up said like, I can't do it
with her, Like I'm not getting anything from this relationship.

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And apparently it was during like a really big scene
and they have all these people there and he didn't
want to work with Rachel McAdams. And this is at
the beginning of the movie, and as you know, the
movie came out, they were in it together. So they
ended up making it work. But I think it kind
of gives a little bit of context of seeing maybe
some of the arguing in the movie that they're doing,
maybe it's actually them acting. They actually can't stand each other,

(13:10):
and that's what you're getting from that. So another thing
to think about when you watch The Notebook again, that
they actually didn't like each other. Now, this next one
is pretty interesting. Wayne the Rock Johnson had kind of
a beef with all the Fast and the Furious guys,
really the whole cast, because he kind of came in
when the movies were kind of losing their spark. Now,
they were really strong in the beginning, but once they

(13:31):
got to about five they hit a bit of a luster.
And it's really interesting how Vin Diesel, how he's so
well known for these movies but almost not accepted as
an actor and really any other capacity, and he's really
worked so hard to build these movies up that when
The Rock came into kind of put new breath into

(13:54):
the Fast and the Furious franchise. I think maybe he
saw it as a bit of like, oh, there's somebody
new coming in, like a the whole, like the people
competing to be the alpha dog. So I think a
lot of that is what happened here early on. And
there's a lot of beef that came out between not
only The Rock and Ben Diesel, but also The Rock
and Tyrese, just them kind of getting into it and

(14:16):
being um on and offline of just taking stabs at
each other, The Rock going on and like thanking everybody
in an Instagram post except for Ben Diesel, Tyrese coming
out and saying stuff about The Rock, and it all
kind of stemmed from, like I said him, the Rock
coming in and kind of taking over, and it really
kind of blew up. Once The Rock got a spin

(14:37):
off with Jason Stay of them, they got hobbed in
Shaw and Tyrese took that pretty bad. He's like, like,
you're breaking apart what was great here and going off
on your own. So I really think it came from jealousy.
I think it was Tyrese like upset that The Rock
was that they were already starting to change things to
fit him, like they were working around his filming schedule.

(14:59):
They even delay had one of The Fast and the
Furious filmings because Dwayne the Rock Johnson had his own
movie going on, and they delayed one of those movies.
So I think they saw it as more like him
coming in and taking over their franchise and it all
being about him. He kind of got called out by
The Rock in different ways. He called them like The
Rock wouldn't make Instagram posts that straight up We're targeted

(15:21):
at Ben Diesel and calling him out for not acting
a certain way on the set, telling him he was unprofessional,
calling him names. And I think a lot of that
too was also The Rock trying to build just some
hype around the movie, because I think you get more
interested if you hear it. Hey, there's some arguing going
on behind the scenes, like Bevin Diesel is not getting
along with The Rock, but they're doing this movie together.

(15:42):
I think that kind of makes you be more interested
in it, and I think that's kind of what these
beats were about. I think the stuff with him and
Harris was kind of made up. I think this stuff
with him and Ben Diesel ended up maybe starting out
is them having friction and one taking over and the
other kind of taking a backseat. No pun intended on
the fast interferious, but I think it ended up just

(16:03):
kind of being a tool of like, Okay, let's keep
this beef going, because you're not going to make an
Instagram post and think everybody from the movie and leave
out Ben Diesel, Like that's probably on purpose. It's probably
some people look at and me like, oh, we didn't
think Ben Diesel, and he creates some drama around the movie.
So I think this one was a little bit of

(16:24):
them being kind of tactical with the beef. I think
that's really kind of like in the hip hop world,
when you start a beef with another rapper, it's to
really boost both of your careers to get both of
people talking about your music. So I think that's a
really smart move when it comes to making movies, and
if you can do that, more power to you. This
next one is one of my favorites of all time.
Involves a very acclaimed actor and his beef, not with

(16:47):
another actor, not with another director, well kind of it
has to do with the director of photography. It came
in two thousand nine from the leak audio on the
set of Terminator Salvation, Christian Bale lost it against the
director of photography for Terminator Salvation. His name is Shane Hurlbert.
And it all came because Shane walked into his line

(17:09):
of sight during filming at a very intense scene. And
when you're working with an actor like Christian Bale, who
really goes to extremes even when it comes to method acting,
like he'll lose weight for a role, he'll gain weight
for a role, He'll get inside these characters heads and
when he's in the zone, you don't mess with Christian Bale.
And poor old Shane just walked into his light of

(17:29):
sight during a really intense scene and Christian Bale just
straight up loses it on him. And I feel so
bad for the guy. But I love that we have
this leaked audio. It leaked to do nothing in nine
and I still find any way to play any chance
that I get. So here is Christian Bale freaking out
on Shane, the director of photography from Terminator Salvation. What

(17:53):
don't you get about it? Oh? Good for you? And
how was it? I hope it was? And good because
it's useless now, isn't it shake man? You're amateur? Now.
The clip went viral because of that line, Oh good
for you? And how was it? That's one of my
favorite It is not it's not even a real movie quote,

(18:13):
it's just a leaked audio quote. And this whole tirade
goes down for four minutes with Christian Bale freaking out
over Shane walking in his line of sight, and he
ends up telling him that if he did it again
that Christian Bale would quit the movie and declaring that
the two were done professionally. And Christian Bale came out
later and publicly apologized for it after the late audio

(18:34):
was leaked. He even called into a l A radio
station and said that yes, he acted like a punk
and apologized to Shane. But I have to say, one
of the greatest film beefs of all time is Christian
Bale freaking out on this guy. I got a few
more just quick ones to throw in that I didn't
really realize until I kind of researched some of this.
But Steven Spielberg apparently didn't get along with Julia Roberts

(18:57):
on the set of Hook. She played tinker Bell in
the movie, and his name for her on set was
Tinker Hell. He said later in an interview about the
movie that it was a very unfortunate time for them
to work together. So maybe that was just such a
big a list actor with such a big a list
director not getting along on the same page during that movie.
She ends up getting up Birdie Nasty nickname out of it.

(19:19):
What a coincidence that tinker Bell rhymed with Tinker Hill. Also,
Tom Hardy and Charlie Stirone did not get along with
each other while fooming Mad Max Fury. I think this
is really just two really intense people getting together to
work on a movie that's a super action charged movie
where you have to kind of be in this weird
state of mind to do. It's a really visually crazy movie,

(19:39):
a lot of stuff going on. I think they're acting
approaches were just so hardcore that it was their characters
more so budding heads, because because they say when they
first met they were actually just trying to kill each other,
because when they were acting together, they weren't the best
of friends, and they just kind of tried to maintain
some kind of level of respect while working throughout the movie.
Even though they didn't get along, and it was until

(20:01):
after the movie where Tom Hardy gave a gift to
Charlie Stirone and was like, Hey, you're an actin nightmare
to work with, but you're freaking awesome and I kind
of miss you. So just because you don't get alone
while making the movie, maybe it's because you're trying to
play it a certain way, or you're not getting that
real kind of relationship you want. Later long you can

(20:22):
see like, Okay, we ended up making a good movie
and it was cool to work with you, all right.
I want to try a new segment this week that
I am calling the underrated movie of the week, or
I share with you guys the movie that came out
maybe over twenty years ago or so, or just something

(20:42):
that I think was overlooked throughout time. And this movie
I'm talking about today is a Disney movie. And when
you hear about people's favorite Disney movies, it's like you're
lying Kings, You're finding Nemos, your Beauty and the Beasts
moul on, all those big movie titles that you go
to Disney World and you see all that stuff. Maybe

(21:02):
I don't go to Disney World right now, but you
hear about all those big Disney movies, and the one
I'm gonna share in my Underrated Movie is when that
came out twenty five years ago, and over the weekend
there's a bunch of tweets about it because now it's
on Disney Plus, and it's kind of just a cult
classic Disney movie, which you don't really know about a
whole lot, like Disney doesn't really have cult classics to
either make hits or movies that don't really do well.

(21:24):
But this one, now that it's back on Disney Plus,
people are remembering it from now as adults are going
back and watching it. And it was one of my
favorite movies as a kid, and I really love that
it's on Disney Plus now. And that movie is called
a Goofy movie, and it's based on the Disney TV
show goof Troop, and it was really Goofy's first ever

(21:48):
full length movie. But the thing about this movie is
when it came out, they didn't really put a whole
lot behind it, Like it wasn't even done by the
same animation studio that Disney has to make all their
big titles. It was a lot low or budget. They
kind of outsourced the animation, and it did okay at
the box office, but really didn't really have a whole
lot of push behind it. But where it really came

(22:09):
through was in VHS sales. Now, if you don't remember
VHS is, there are these big cartridges that you would
put into a VCR now if you don't know what
a VCR is is, where you would take a VHS
and put it in there and press play in a
movie would start and sometimes you see some opening previews
that usually have to fast forward to. But that's really

(22:32):
where a Goofy movie kind of became a cult classic because,
like me, I remember getting the VHS tape and it
was one movie that I would watch all the time,
and I love the story in this movie. It's a
pretty basic movie. So it's about Goofy's son Max, who
is in high school I believe in the movie, and

(22:54):
he's trying to impress this girl Roxane. He ends up
doing this really big elaborate performance at the very beginning
of like a class assembly, and it's to this music
by a fictional pop star named power Line, and he's
just trying to impress this girl. He gets busted, gets
in trouble, and then Goofy throws upon this summer road

(23:15):
trip that they go on, and you know, Max is
just kind of being a teenager, and you know, you
don't want to go on a road trip with your
dad when you're a teenager. What he really wants to
do is go to this power Line concert, and he
kind of devises a plan that goes out throughout the
movie of how to reroute their summer trip into the
going to this concert, and it turns into a whole thing.

(23:38):
And it's a pretty basic movie that's pretty much the
entire thing. Not really much to ruin on this What
Else came out twenty five years ago, but it's a
movie that I think it's just underrated as a Disney
movie because yes, it is a little more simple of
a storyline, and maybe the animation is not as up
to par as like what a Lion King was at
the time, but I think it's core of a movie.

(24:01):
It's a really great thing to go back and kind
of watch now that it's on Disney Plus. So if
you have kids, the really good one to show them,
and even as an adult, I think it's so enjoyable
if you love kind of that old classic animation because
it's straight up two D, like the straight on just
before they got into all this three D animation and

(24:21):
all that kind of stuff. It's just a really classically
kind of drawn Disney movie, really nineties. It's a it's
a very nineties movie, and I love that era of Disney,
and it's maybe one you haven't seen, so I would
I would just think it's a I just think it's
a very underrated movie. Like I always kind of had
it in my category of like my favorite Disney movies,

(24:42):
and I didn't realize later that a bunch of people
haven't seen it until it was trending over the weekend
that oh, a Goofy movie is now on Disney. Plus
I'm like, yeah, everybody's seen there, right, No, I guess
they haven't, but it's one I recommend going to check out.
They also made a Goofy movie sequel, would was called
an extremely Goofy movie, which wasn't as good. But the

(25:03):
thing with these is they were kind of just making
like back in the day, Disney made a lot more
like straight to VHS movies, which we're kind of like
their B movies, and this was kind of even considered.
What they said was like a C movie for them.
They didn't really do anything with it. So I recommend
a Goofy movie, but not the sequel to that. And
even like I'm not a big fan of just straight

(25:23):
up musicals like back in the Day, I really liked
like all the songs and like Lion King, but this
one has some pretty good jams. Like the first song
Max sings at that school assembly is called stand Out,
and that's actually kind of a jam. And it even

(25:50):
kicks off with a big opening number with the song
called after Today, After Today shooting n I'll be fine,
and you even have Polly Shore voicing one of his friends.
Does it really get more nineties than poly Shore in

(26:13):
an animated movie. I don't think so. Shit Chet, It
is my underrated movie of the week. If you're looking
for a Disney movie to watch with your family, or
you just want to go back and relive some nineties nostalgia,
I recommend checking out a Goofy movie. All right, So

(26:34):
I've been sharing with you guys my top ten movies
of all time and reviewing them each week. I'm getting
to number eight today, but before I get into that,
just to kind of recap. If you haven't caught the
other two. At number ten, I had Drive with Ryan Gosling,
which you can watch on Netflix. At number nine, I
had Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. And this week
at number eight of my favorite movies of all time,

(26:56):
which I'll be reviewing, is No Country for Old Men,
which came out in two thousand and seven, directed by
the Coen Brothers, and it really has an amazing cast
of Josh Brolind, Tommy Lee Jones, Haabier Bardem, and Woody Harrelson,
just to name a few of the people playing in
this movie, and one of my favorite movies of all
time because I like movies that just kind of happened

(27:17):
in an instant and you don't know all the details
going into it. It when done well, is a really
powerful thing, because sometimes movies over explain things, and I
kind of like it when you just kind of put
into a situation, you take everything for what it is
and there's not a whole lot of, oh, this is
exactly what this happened, this why this is what's going

(27:39):
on with the entire movie. I kind of explained a
little bit more without ruining the movie, but I feel
like you're just kind of put into this world of
once the drug deal goes wrong at the very beginning.
So I'll get into all of that, but before I do,
here's just a little bit of No Country for Old Men.
I'm looking for a little well and Moss. You go

(28:02):
up to this trailer, do you want to leave a message?
I don't come back and tell mother I love him.
Your mother's did I'll tell him myself. So what the
movie is about, without ruining it is Josh Brolin's character
named you Well and stumbles on a drug deal gone wrong,

(28:24):
and he's just a regular guy out in West Texas.
They actually filmed this in Marfa, Texas, and he stumbles
upon what looks like a straight out shootout brawl and
he finds no one living. There's one guy maybe clinging
to life, and he ends up finding what's about two
million dollars in cash, so he decides to take the money. Again,

(28:48):
he's not really a bad guy, maybe just kind of
in a bad, wrong place at the wrong time, I
would say, And he takes the money and immediately gets
chased by the other people because he's pretty much saying like, Okay,
this was a drug deal gone wrong, where's the last guy? Like,
where where's the guy coming to get this money? And
he takes off, gets chased by some dudes, and then

(29:10):
goes home to its trailer, and then pretty much throughout
the entire movie is on the run. Now where the
movie really kind of just they don't really say a
whole lot about what happened at that scene. You don't
really find out the details of the drug dealers, which
is fine. I think if you're able to put somebody
into that situation, you take it for what it is,

(29:30):
you take it in that little moment of time. I'm
okay with that if it's done really well, which in
this case it's done probably the best it's ever been done.
I'm fine with not all the details of not knowing
every single answer to every single question. Where the chilling
part comes in is Javier Bardama's character is this guy
named Anton Sugar, Sugar like the Sugar, and he's this

(29:52):
very just what they say is the best depiction ever
of what a real cycle path is like. Just the
way he acts, the way he talks, even the way
he looks like, all his mannerisms are very straight onto
what an actual psychopath is. And it's done so well
in this movie that he's a villain that seems almost
more scary than like somebody in a horror movie because

(30:16):
he's just insane psychopath who has this device he uses
to kill people, which is said essentially what they used
to like take out cattle, So it's like this highly
pressurized tank that he goes and just like put it
at people's foreheads and takes him out. And you the
whole time, it's his character trying to track down Josh
Brolin's character named Ellen, and he goes to his he

(30:38):
goes to his trailer and he takes all the clues
and finds out where he's going, and you well and
is trying to protect his wife. And then the whole
time Tommy Lee Jones, who's playing the old sheriff, is
trying to help out and figure out why you Ellen
has gotten rounded up into this. Now, Tommy Lee Jones,
this character has been around a really long time and

(30:58):
kind of where the title No Country for Old Man
comes in, which it's actually based on the book, but
it's Tommy Lee Jones kind of coming to realize how
much the world has changed since he's been in law enforcement,
and now you have this psychopath killer who's just going
around slaughtering people, and he's beginning to think maybe maybe
this is like too much for me now, maybe this

(31:19):
is time for me to get out. So this movie
is pretty violent, and I think it's violence with a purpose,
though kind of like one of my favorite directors, Quentin Tarantino,
who has a lot of violence in his movies and
oftens is criticized for how brutal is it is. I
think this movie uses it in a very particular way.
And you see some pretty hardcore things, like I said earlier,

(31:41):
from when he uses that cattle killing device to take
it out on people to him just straight up strangling
a guy on the floor and you see like the
marks from his boots like on the ground. Like that
stuff is very intense and it's very real. And I
just love the character of Anton Sugar in this movie

(32:02):
because it's the most simple things that he does that
makes him feel like a real villain and like a
real psychopath. And there's this scene where he just goes
to get gas and he goes in tied to a
gas station. It's like a very small gas station now
in rural Texas, and he has this interaction with the
store clerk, and up to this point in the movie,
everybody who he's encountered, he's killed. And it's kind of

(32:24):
this one slice of him being maybe like a normal
human where he has a conversation with the store clerk.
It's very tense because the clerk knows that something's wrong,
that this guy is off. And I just want to
play this little scene. Maybe you've heard this quote before
about what's the most you've ever lost in a coin toss?
And here's just a little bit of that scene. What's
the most you've ever lost on the coin toss? Sir?

(32:47):
The most you ever lost the coin toss? I don't know.
I couldn't say just well, we need to know what
we're calling it for here. You need to call it.
I can't call it for you. It wouldn't be fair.

(33:10):
I didn't put nothing now. Yes, you're dead. You've been
putting it up your whole life. It just didn't know it.
So the movie came out in two thousand seven, and
the following year it was nominated for eight Academy Awards,
four which it ended up winning, including Best Picture and
Best Supporting Actor. In a movie that's just been my
favorite for a long time. Now everything from the way

(33:31):
it looks like the actual cinematography and this is it's
pretty brilliant. You got the Cohen Brothers doing it, and
just how they filmed this movie. From the nighttime scenes
where at the very start where you will and getting
chased by these dudes, it just looks crisp and cool
and you kind of get that feeling of it being
in Texas and that scenery which is very important, just

(33:54):
to all the scenes with Sugar and focusing on his
facial expressions or lack thereof, and even just like the
costume design in this of they specifically picked this crazy
haircut that Sugar has in the movie to make him
look as creepy as possible and just Drash Brolin like
your root for him because he just kind of was

(34:14):
wanting to do something that would maybe help out him
and his wife and he ends up getting into a
really bad situation where you almost just want him to
get out of it and you're rooting for him the
entire time. And the cool thing about Josh Brolin, he
was actually working on a Quentin Tarantino movie when the
script came across and the role was offered to him.
He was working on Grindhouse and he actually got Quentin

(34:35):
Tarantino to shoot and direct his audition tape for you,
Ellen or that. That was pretty cool. And the other
thing about this movie is that has such big actors
in it, but you actually never really see them all
on screen together because it's really a chase throughout the
entire movie. And there's only one character who actually talks
to all three of the main characters. So you Allen's

(34:57):
wife in the movie is Carla Jean, and she's at
She was the only one who interacts with all three
of them, and it just gives that much cooler of
a feal that they never interact, and it just has
that anticipation of something bad it's probably going to happen.
But anyway, that is my number eight movie of all time,
No Country for Old Men. It's available to stream if
you have a Stars account, but otherwise you would have

(35:19):
to rent it on Amazon or YouTube for about four bucks.
So if you're looking for a good action thriller, I
highly recommend it at my number eight movie of all time.
All Right, and that's the episode for this week. But
before I hop out of here, I gotta give my
Instagram shout out of the Week. This week, it is
going to add Christie k m B on Instagram, who

(35:39):
actually posted it on her main fee that she was
listening to last week's episode and she was also a
big Willie Wanka fans. So shout out to you guys
for always putting this in your Instagram stories and if
you're stole inclined news, so putting it on your main
fee that you're listening to the episode. Every week, I
picked somebody on Instagram or Twitter to give him a
shout out. Just let me know that you're listening to

(35:59):
the podcast. Tag me in that and I'll shout you
out next week. I hope you guys are staying safe
out there. Watch the movies. Let me know what you've
seen and think that I should check out and recommend.
Let me know if you watch something good, just send
me a tweet or an Instagram message. I'll check it
out too and maybe do a review on next week's episode.
And until then, I will talk to you guys next time.

(36:20):
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