Movie of the Month (Nov) with Mike and Kelsey + Movie Review: Gladiator 2 + Trailer Park: Snow White

Mike and Kesley are back with another month in review for November. What movies they loved and recommended for you to check out and what they each despised and think you should skip. In the Movie Review, Mike talks about Gladiator 2. Why fans of the original will hate certain aspects of the film, the questionable special effects on the CGI animals and why Ridley Scott is giving IDGAF energy this time around. In the Trailer Park, Mike shares his thoughts on Disney’s live-action Snow White movie and why he thinks it has DISASTER written all over it. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Welcome back to Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. What were
you saying before we started?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I said, you're recording this episode, and it's it's kind
of like what I'm on teams meeting and I can't
stop staring at myself and the.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Good I look.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
No usually I'm like, oh, this is not good lighting.
I had to get my work to order me a
new camera because previously I bought myself a webcam for
at home and it was just like one of the
cheap ones.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Way zoomed in, way zoomed in, and.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I was like, you can see every pore on my face.
And I take good care of my skin, but I
was like, this is too up close and personal, Like
if I have my hair, like some days I wear
my hair in a clip, and I just looked like
a giant like egghead.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
On most calls, you ever get a glimpse of yourself
in the mirror and it totally ruins your day?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, Or like when you flip a photo. I hate
when you flip the folk.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Okay, I have a good side, yeah, but then when
you flip a good side for me side barely acceptable.
I have a lot of dental issues, so shout out
to all the people in the comments want to know
when I get my braces off. There are a lot
of stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
We'd also love time.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I would love to know too, But I've had teeth
taken out because they were so jammed and in this
process now for a long time. So yes, I am
aware that I still have braces, but I have a
side where they took out a couple of teeth to
give other teeth room to grow, and they have they
have pulled, and they have pulled so far because of
these braces for so long. There's space now to put
in some implants. But I don't like pictures from that

(01:17):
side because it just looks like a big gap or.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
No, or when we take a selfie and you want
the writing to be the exact way, I hate it
on you flipp it because I don't like how.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I don't like backwards writing and photos.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I don't like how I look when you flip the photo.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
You like grati the way.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I think it's very nice right right leg that I have.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
That was the other thing I was gonna say. You
ever look in the mirror and see some grays and
you're like, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Do I I don't even have to look in the mirror.
Have we told the story on this podcast before.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, we've told it before.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Should we tell it again?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
No, we're good.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I think we should tell again.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
That's not only not like getting a haircut now, is
because they get rid of some of the grays.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
So four years ago, during the pandemic, you know, couldn't
get my hair done. I am a natural brunette, but
it's like a very mousey brown and I don't like it.
So we are walking back in the house. We've been
spending time on the back patio, and you're looking at
me this weird look, and I think it's about to
be one of those sweet moments where you're like, I'm
just looking at you and thinking about how much I
love you. And then we're no longer separated by the
pandemic and I'm like what, And you're like, Oh, it's

(02:11):
just in this light you can see some of your grays.
And I said, oh, in this lake, can you see
your life flash before your eyes? And I did, and
I'm aware. I also had a dermatologist once who when
she was doing a scalp check, she said, do the
people in your family gray early? Because you have more
grays and I was like, lady, I've had gray since
I was eighteen. I'm a high stress individual. She then
also had me pull down my mask, and in COVID

(02:31):
times she just goes rosetia pull that back up. I
did leave crying from that appointment, but I am distracted
because I am due to get the grays covered. So
if anyone's watching this on YouTube, please don't tell us
that he still has braces.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
We know I'm aware and that.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I have great hair because I'm also aware.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
But if you're not watching on YouTube and just listening
on the podcast, you can subscribe YouTube dot com slash
Mike d. Strow. We are here to talk movies. Nice
is great here, but we are here to do our
movies of the month and worse for November. We'll get
into a spoiler free review of Gladiator, and then in
the trailer park, Disney is doing another live action adaptation
of a classic. We'll talk about snow White. Why I think, ooh,

(03:12):
they wasted some money there, did they ever?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Man? But thank you for listening, thank you for being subscribed.
Shout out to the Monday Morning Movie crew. And now
let's talk movies.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
In a world where everyone and their mother has a podcast.
One man stands to infiltrate the ears of listeners like
never before in a movie podcast. A man with so
much movie knowledge, he's basically like a walking IMTB with glasses.
From the Nashville Podcast Network, this is Movie Mike's movie podcast.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Let's get right into it. Movies of the Month for November.
What was the best thing we watched? In your opinion?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
As if you've enough to ask, the green lights behind
my head didn't tell you it is Wicked.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Is it a movie that you've been thinking about every
day since? Because that is my sign of Oh, that
was a good movie.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I think about it. I watched tiktoks about it. The
soundtrack comes up on Spotify. I said that weird. Oh,
I was gonna say, shuffle on Spotify.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Suffle Spotify and you got the internet radio on your phone.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Popular has been coming on Gracy Abrams Radio. So I
have been listening to Popular.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
So is it the popular from the movie or the
popular from the musical?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
The movie? You know? I think about holding space for
the lyrics of define gravity about once a day. I
want to go see it again. I tell other people
to go see it. I ask people if they've seen it, so, yeah,
it does consume a lot of my brain power.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
That is something I've felt. I've rarely leave a movie
and think about it so much that I want to
go see it again. And I do want to go
see this movie again. And it is a two hour
twenty almost two and a half hour movie to forty
ten minutes of credits. Do you know I timed that movie?
It timed out to two thirty.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
He does time every month. Yeah, time a lot of suff.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Oh yeah, for the most part, when you see a movie,
time you can cut off ten minutes. But the problem is, oh,
it never starts on that time, and oh I hate
it for some people who don't know that. And you
get there so early because at least at Regal it's
thirty minutes. Now they do ten minutes of just raw
commercials and then twenty minutes of previews.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
It's weird the commercials.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, Like, I'm already paying to go see a movie
in theaters. I don't need to see normal commercials. I
feel like that is like, why are we doing this?
That's gonna take somebody who doesn't come to the movies
that often and kind of ruin that experience. I don't
want to be advertised to here the movies. Yeah, that's fine,
more trailers so you come back and watch another movie.
But I don't want to see a commercial for a

(05:42):
car when I'm at the movies. But I have really
been wanting to go see Wicked again because I feel
like there's a lot of details now that I missed,
and like you mentioned, seeing things on TikTok about it
and seeing more people dive into it. I still haven't
been exposed to any spoilers.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's not again it's spoilers, but I don't want to know.
For twenty one.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Years, I know, but at this point of my life,
I do not want to know what is going to
happen in part two.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
But what if we go to New York and we
see it on Broadway.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
That's different because I feel they're gonna make the movie
a little bit different from the musical, and I feel
like if people have seen the musical before, you're probably
it's like reading the book. You know they're gonna have
some differences between the two, and I think that's a
little bit more fun.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Okay, But I have seen people reading the Wicked book,
and if anyone's trying to read it. It is a
very dark book. It's i've heard dark explicit. It's not
like whimsical, so be warned.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, it goes into some pretty like interesting details about
the boat that I don't think a kid would want
to read.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, don't pick up the Wicked Book thinking you're about
to read something fun.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I did go back and I rewatched The Wizard of
Oz when last weekend without me. I'll rewatch it again.
I'll watch that movie every day. I love it. I
like Saturday morning, I just started it.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
It's so rude.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
How is it rude watching a movie we both seen.
It's not like I rewatched it. Watch it and I'll
rewatch it again. And we've both already seen it. It's
not like we were I started a show without you.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
It's to rewatch a movie on Saturday morning when you
know I sleep.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
I watched like two other movies in that time, so
I was like, okay, i'll watch this one now. It's
surprisingly shorter than I remember. I mean it's like an
hour and a half, so it's a quick watch. But
I did some research on that. Because Warner Brothers owns
the rights to Wizard of Oz and it's not public
domain until twenty thirty five, so that leads me to
believe that they are building up towards remaking The Wizard

(07:34):
of Oz because once it's public domain, it's free game
for people to make it. I don't know if you
can rebuy the rights to have it reset for another
one hundred years. But who do you think should play
Dorothy in a remaking of the Wizard of Oz? I
started thinking about that, like who kind of fits.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Advance warning about thinking about this, She'd put me on
the spot right now.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Okay, I feel like you would have somebody in mind
because you really don't have to be I mean, Judy
Garland could sing, but I almost feel at this point
you don't have to be a singer you could have
because I think that's kind of hard to find somebody
at the level of like Carpenter to Herbie Dorothy dire
hair Brown. I was thinking like a Daisy Ridley, Like

(08:12):
you're just.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Gonna pick one of the Daisies for everything right now, Jones.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Jones, I just feel like you need somebody who already
has like the hair.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
But I don't. I don't see Daisy Ridley in a
whimsical musical.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Maybe she's a little bit too old for that role.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Daisy Edgar Jones. I could, yeah, actually, because when she
was doing the Twisters press tour, everyone's like, what's one
thing people don't know about you? And she's like, I'm
quite silly, and she's like in her mid twenties. I
can see Daisy ugar Jones.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I'll go with my other Daisy, my backup Basy.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Which we did rewatch Twisters. Some things giving that we.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Did and we blew up the air mattress and rewatched
that movie.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Great, great experience. Sometimes being an adults fun, Like just
blow up the air mattress for mad a cookie cake.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, there's nobody who can tell you not to. That
was always something I wanted to do as a kid,
like blow up an air mattress or create like a
pillow for it and watch movies with in. I never
did it. Now I've done it. It's fun.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
My best of the month for.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I wasn't done talking about Wicked. Oh you got more'n
you didn't even let me finish. You sidetracked on the
remaking of the Wizard of Us. Okay, even if and
I we did the review. I forgot already. We did
that after we saw it. Even if you're not a
musical person a theater person, go see it. It's so
well done. I know people are like, this pressed tour

(09:27):
they've done is wild, and I do admit it is
strange to watch them cry in every interview, but you
know what, they're proud of their work. It was an experience,
and I think they both should be proud of it
because they're both phenomenal in it. And I think it's
just so good. And even if you're like, wow, two
and a half hours, it doesn't feel like it and
like another movie we're gonna talk about. So yeah, go
see Wicked.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Good now, Yes, all right? For my best of the month,
I'm going with A Real Pain, which was a story
with Kieran Colkin.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
You said it right this time?

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Okay, making sure guess thee Eisenberg and I feel that
movie really hit me on an emotional level that I
wasn't quite expecting.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
TikTok about that made me really sad.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
That I feel like Jesse Eisenberg's character in the movie. Yeah,
why to make you said.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Because you looked sad while talking.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I didn't realize how emotional I was you looked.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
So sad you came home, and I was like, do
you need a hug?

Speaker 1 (10:17):
And I'm like, why, See, sometimes when I do reviews,
I just like I have to go off raw emotion.
That is how I based a lot of my reviews.
And that one we left the theater and I felt
weird that something was so oddly specific to me in
a movie about just like my personality and stuff I've
been like dealing with, like my whole life. And I

(10:40):
think when I sat down to record that review, I
was like, this is gonna kind of feel like a
therapy session because it's stuff i've I mean, I've talked
to you about that, and maybe not in that explicit way,
just because I just thought that was something that only
I dealt with. But seeing somebody else go through that,
of just that feeling of like wanting to be more outgoing,
wanting to connect with people more, and I was like, man,

(11:01):
this movie just hit me. And I didn't know how.
I didn't really know what that movie was going to
be about. About their entire journey of like being close
and then kind of being estranged, going back for a
really dark reason after their grandma died and then you
have all the other emotions mixed in with why they
are there going to that concentration camp, and just like, man,

(11:21):
where's this movie going. But there's also like some fun
moments in it, some really good bonding moments, and I
think character yeah, and it's yeah, like a really unique
just blend of people. And it doesn't feel like a
traditional movie in the sense that it's not like a
this happens, therefore, this happens, Therefore this happens, here's the

(11:42):
rising act, here's the fault. It doesn't really follow that.
It just felt like a movie about life. And I
enjoy those movies every now and then. It's a nice
little slice of life that you go through something from
beginning to end. It's not so much that you follow
this character's journey and they accomplishing amazing. It's just like
you feel all these things. That was my best What

(12:03):
what did you rate Wicked Again? You gave it a
five out of five?

Speaker 2 (12:05):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
I think you gave it a five out of five
when we did it, because I gave it a four
point five out of five because I was split into
two for a real pain. I gave that one a
four point five out of five and so forth. For
the year, I have not given out a five out
of five.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I loved a real pain. I would also say, like
you would categorize me, you knowing me as someone who's outgoing.
I'm an introvert, but I can strike up a conversation.
I can make friends at the post office.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
I think that. I mean, that's why you make me better,
is because you are the one who can talk to
people and connect with people, and you make me more
normal because without you, I'm just like the isolated. Here's
this dude not saying.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Anything, but I will say I once had a boss.
Among all the other insults she gave me, she told
me I was socially awkward.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
That is bizarre.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
But I'm just saying so, like even someone saw me
as that, So it's like we all have a little
bit of socially awkwardness in us.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, is that all perspective?

Speaker 2 (12:58):
The other the other insult she gave me that I
loved it was a like informal setting, so I could
wear like shorts and a T shirt in the summer.
I wore a dress one time and she was like, Oh,
you're so much skinnier when you're not hiding behind pants
and shorts, and I was like, oh, little backhanded compliment there, Yeah,
she'll stop me. I'm socially awkward.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah that's bizarre. That's not true whatsoever. I'm socially awkward.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Not as much as you think. You're just in your
head about it. Yeah, I guess so less socially awkward
than you think. You just when you are thinking, you're overthinking.
So you just need to stop thinking.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Just live inside that head though. All right, for the
worst of November, what do you have?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Are you not entertained? No? I was not entertained by
Gladiator too.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Okay, I'm going to do this in the movie review
coming up, so I will say nothing and I will
let you go why you hated?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Why want to give any spoilers, But there was just
some really stupid CGI. I don't love movies from that
time period.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Pieces technique over here Street just make less money.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, I don't like bloody Gore. I'm not big into
like a severed.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Head, which is kind of really Scott's calling card.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
And it's the same didn't Napoleon?

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, that's why you didn't like it. It's over over the
top blood and guts and like the real visceral sound
of like a blade going in.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
And I watch medical shows. I watch all those things.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
So it's the violence, is it the violence more so
than the gore.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
It's the violence, yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Because I've seen some of the medical shows you watch
there's like blood loosing out where I was surprised. I'm like, hey,
that's cool, that doesn't bother. I didn't know you liked
this stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
It's like someone coming at someone in like the slicing.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Of the head so hated Game of Thrones.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Or like the bayonet and then they pull it out
and the sound effect. Yeah, I just wasn't into that.
The plotline was kind of like up down, up down,
so we had something coming and then it's like I
could have seen that from a mile away. Yeah. The
Joseph Quinn's eye makeup, the smoke ye really intense.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I mean that was distracting his paleness too.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
He was like.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
A history thing right where they would like put makeup
on to make themselves pale because that showed you had
money or something.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, and they were probably using like real like things
of charcoal paint that on. Yeah. I wasn't. I didn't
go into it thinking I was gonna love it. But
I was like, we got to see all the Blockbusters,
so I went to see it.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Did you at least like Denzel Washington's character or he
is acting?

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I liked Paul Mescal. Yeah, I thought Paul Mascal was great.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Do you think he was convincing?

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, it's very attractive, very in shape for that movie.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
For my worst of November, I am going to say
here with Tom Hanks speaking of bad CGI, that was
some bad special effects with They had tod age him
to be a teenager, and I think the d aging
just isn't quite there yet.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, maybe if you're deaging someone a little younger, No
disrespect mister Hanks, big fan, lovely man in person.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
To go from being in your late sixties to being
a teenagers off like that just doesn't look very good.
He looked like his character did in the Polar Express,
which same director, by the way, Roberts and Mexis. But
he looked like that.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
That's when we haven't rewatched at Christmas time in any
of the years Polar Express, we've never rewatched them.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I think I've only seen it maybe once. That was
when that technology was so that type of three D
animation they use was so new that it looks so
bad for the I mean for now. Maybe at the
time it looked good. But that used to be my
favorite thing as a kid. I think in like first
or second grade, we would read the book and we'd
all get to dress and pajamas to school. That was

(16:35):
my favorite. I remember us all going down the hall
in our pj's, and I think at that time I
was still into Thomas the Tank Engine, so I had
like Thomas the Tank Engine slippers, or at least kept
him FM kindergarten. If it was first grade, you.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Were in Thomas the tank Engine phase for a while.
Your mom has stories about that.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
That was my jam I couldn't leave the house without
watching it.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
No, your mom always talks about how she'd be like,
all right, Mike, you have to go to the grocery store,
and you'd be like, no.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
No, I'm not going. I'm gonna but yes. Aside from
the CGI, it was just the most mid movie I've
seen all year, for the level of talent on the
acting side and for the level of talent behind the camera,
And it didn't really shape up until the end of
the movie, and by then it was just kind of late,
and I know you wanted to see that movie and

(17:23):
you were like, Oh, you're gonna see without me.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
To be really honest, I kept forgetting the title of it.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
So it's a horrible title.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
You said you were seeing here. I was in Denver
that weekend. I was just like a horror movie and
I was like, Oh, it's that one. It was one
of those I just And then the other night my
mom texted me and she's like, I'm watching here, same thing.
I was like, scary movie, and then she was like
love Tom Hanks and I was like, oh that movie.
So yeah, it's a bad title forgetting that.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
That was the title of it a homonym. So it's
like is it here like you can listen, or is
it here like right here, oh, big vocapboard. I think
I remember that from like a Doctor SEUs book or something.
It all takes place in the same piece of land
over his like starting back from like the dinosaur age
all the way till like twenty twenty past.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
I think it ends in dinosaur age.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, like back in like it just shows like a
sliver of land. You see dinosaur roaming the earth, and
then you see like the Revolutionary War all that stuff,
and then it all just keeps going, stays the same
camera angle the entire time, which was like the big like,
oh this is interesting. It's gonna force you to look
at just right here, and they kept emphasizing we grew
up here, we did all this stuff here, it all
happened here, but there was all this backstory that it

(18:29):
was just kind of pointless, like showing you these different
plot lines of these different people who lived on the
same plot of land that really went nowhere, that had
no emotional development, and it was just like, I, why
am I here? Why am I playing in this theater? And
that was also one where I got tickets kind of later,
so I had to sit it like the very top row,
and I was like all the way behind, and I

(18:50):
was like, I'm not enjoying this whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
I'm glad I didn't sit through that one.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
So that is my worst of the month. The other
movies we watched here was the first one So a
Real Pain, Wicked Part one Blitz that almost made one
of my favorites of the month as well, So Good,
which was a movie that you wanted to watch because
it's World War two, duh, and you watch any movie
world War Two, any TV show, read any book?

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I think the issue I had when it comes to
TV shows and movies about it is they always kind
of feel the same because it's always sad. And this one,
I mean, obviously it's World War two, it's going to
be sad, but it's not the sad you're expecting. And
it's because it follows this kid and his journey of
just trying to get back home and be reunited with
his mom. Was this movie Was it based on a
true story?

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I don't know if their story was true, but parents
in London sending their kids like to the countryside of
Europe is true. They would send a lot of them
to America and they live with the cohost families spread
several books about.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
That, so yeah, inspired by true events, yes, which it
works the same way. It doesn't take anything away from
the emotional impact of it.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I'm sure there's it's a little unbelievable, so I don't feel.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Like, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
There's also a lot of stories that'll come out of
World War Two of people doing things, and you're like,
you will believe all the stories I read about people
that lived in like Poland and lived in the literal
Sewers didn't think that was true, but it is.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, very cinematic. I really enjoyed that one.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Socialonem was great.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
That one's on Apple TV Plus so you can watch
that one for free. So glad day or two. We
saw the Christmas movie Our Little Secret. Should we wait
to talk about Christmas movies for another episode?

Speaker 2 (20:25):
I can just say I loved it, you loved it.
It was cute. It was the best one Netflix has
done so far this year. I have not watched the
one where Chad Michael Murray is an exotic dancer Dnswer. Yeah,
I think I've heard he's a one of my one
of my friends at work called it a clean stripper.
I can't take Chad Michael Murray seriously in the year

(20:47):
twenty twenty four, two thousand and three. Is Lucas Scott
sure heart Throb twenty twenty four when he's like still
trying to be relevant, it's so cringey.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah. I saw him do that one interview where he's like,
name one actor who has never fallen off, like every
actor falls off at some point, and you could just
tell it was coming from like a very emotional place
that he struggles with and I was like, well, Leonardo
DiCaprio has never fallen off, Robert de Niro, Jennifer la
and Washington. Yeah, there's a lot of actors friendly Cooper,

(21:16):
so I just feel like he was like, uh, gonna
make something up.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
I really enjoyed our little secret. Lindsay Lohan greatest comeback
of all time. I love it for her. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
I do want to play a game with everybody listening
right now, see if you can figure out this riddle.
We went to a movie and there was these people
sitting next to us. It was a group of guys
and they had their tickets and they were seated, you know,
they had drinks and everything. This other couple comes up
and they're like, hey, you're in our seats. And they're like, well,
let's figure this thing out. They both pull out their

(21:48):
phones and they both say, no, these are our seats.
We have D five and six. We have D five
and six.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
The group of guys had four through six, and then
this couple is claiming they had five and six.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
So what you think happened here? As the listener, what
was the issue here? Who was in the right and
who was in the wrong. It turns out, initially I
would think this has happened to me us before. And
what happened? They had the wrong theater, So that's what
I thought initially, like they were supposed to be at
a different regal and this day I figured it out, Yes,

(22:20):
in this case, same theater. They looked at the ticket again, Oh,
this is the theater. We're at the same one. Okay.
Then I thought, maybe they have the wrong time. We
were at a seven to twenty five showing. Maybe they
had picked a different time and got there at the
wrong time. Not the case, same time on the ticket,
seven to twenty five, same seats, same theater.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
And by theater you mean like the specific regal, not
the auditorium screen.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, that was the next thing. Could it be a
different screen? Nope, screen sixteen. We're here at the same time.
What do you think was the issue here? What do
you think happened? And the.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Do do do?

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Do?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
I would be so good at Final Jeopardy? Actually no,
that's the hardest gan to be terrible at it?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Can I say?

Speaker 1 (23:08):
And the answer is Kelsey, what happened?

Speaker 2 (23:10):
They bought tickets for the wrong day the wrong day?

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Because it was blowing my mind too.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
I figured it out quick.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
We're like right, same seat, same time. I thought it
had to be they went to the wrong regal, which
is I've seen that happen before, Like, oh, I'm with
the one across town.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
I got out the regal app and I was like
pretending that's what I did. We learnt tickets and I
was like, okay, next day, and I was like, ooh,
seats five and six taken for tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
They got the wrong date.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
So then there was an awkward thing where they walked
out they were gonna go like check with someone, and
then the guy that had the seats was also walking out,
and the girl kind turns out and she was like, oh,
I didn't mean you had to come with us, and
the guy was like, I'm not, I'm going to the bath.
So then they later came back in and they had
to seat sit in seats in the second row because
they definitely were there for the wrong day.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Their next definitely hurt Buddy in the night acci that
was their ingladiator, though another thing happened this is an game,
but during Mawana. Well, first of all, when we got
in there, the lights were bright. They didn't turn down
the main lights, which it just felt like we were
in like a big auditorial with a lot of families
that I felt very exposed. It's weird the level of
comfort the darkness brings in.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Don't want to see how old those seats are. Yeah,
I love to live in obliviousness. That was seeing an airplane.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
It was like pulling back the curtain. And initially I
thought I was like, oh, no, I sure hope they
turned on the lights by the time you get here,
because he's gonna be more tofied at these seats.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
They did not.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
They did not. The movie was about to start.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I could tell kids were are the lights on?

Speaker 1 (24:35):
And I could tell we were in a theater where
maybe families don't come as often as we do. I
don't think a lot of people go as often as
we do. And I knew the movie was about to
start and the lights should have been down by this point,
because they're usually down and then they go down further
once the movie starts. So I went to go tell
them that the lights were still up. And now I
know where the light switches, so if ever it happens again,
I could just go turn them off myself. But then

(24:56):
what happened again towards the end of the movie, the
lights on the back on and like one of the
most emotional parts, like all right, movies over it did
and I see you have.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Another note too. We need to talk about your other
note about it?

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Oh yeah, I was getting to that one next. But
that was just another thing. If ever the lights come
on into the theater, just don't look around, Just immediately
get up and go find an employee because you did
not want to see the condition of the seats.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
You don't, you really don't.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
The other issue I had this was when we went
to go see Gladiator. I made the mistake of raw
dogging a sweatshirt, meaning I did not wear a T
shirt underneath, because right now we're in wintertime is so
cold and it's cold and for the most part, movie
theaters are cold.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
But they had cranked the heat that night.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
But for some reason, this theater was like it was
hot a hot box. It's like they turned off the ac,
turn off the fans, and turned on the heater. So
I went into it thinking that we were going to
be in a nice, cool theater. I was like, oh,
maybe I'll just be nice and cozy, and my my
hoodie I'll put my pockets in there, I'll put my
snack in there. And it was so hot, and I
didn't have a T shirt on underneath, so I spent

(26:04):
the entire movie sweating.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah you were. You were having a rough time.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
And now it's so uncomfortable because before I'd done the
opposite of regretting that breaking a sweater and I've been
freezing in movies. I think it's much worse not wearing
a shirt underneath than being stuck.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Hot, Haven't I tall? You layer?

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, but I just felt so confident in just not
wearing a shirt underneath.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
So layer, always layer on an airplane, layer at the movie.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
I just like the feeling of just having a sweater on.
It just feels more comfortable to me. It depends on
the interior fabric. It feels like I'm wearing like a blanket,
just straight on. So a lesson.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
She didn't wear your Spiderman blanket, you'd have been a
real hot died. Speaking of Spiderman blanket, you walked out
of our bedroom earlier, and we have like a so
my desk is in our living room because someone gets
the office in the list.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Tell your version of the story.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
So the blanket basket for the living room is next
to my desk, and your Spider Man hoodie had fallen
out of it earlier, so just picked it up in
through back and I'm sitting at my desk typing, working
and you you're like, do you wear my Spider Man hoodie?

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
I was like, excuse me, and you're like, it's moved,
and I said, that's what you noticed has been moved
in this house. That's what you notice is out of place.
It's never the trash by the door that needs to
be taken out. It's the spider Man hoodie that is
off by like a centimeter.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
You wore it.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I didn't wear it. I didn't.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
You're like, I want to know what this feels like.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
No, Nope, because you always put your feet in it.
I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Wear it's an all body blanket.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
I don't. I'm not wearing anything that your feet of touch.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
But that is a lesson. Never a raw dog a
sweatshirt to a movie.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Please stop saying around because you.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Will have a bad time. We've been going a while now,
but we can do our TV shows of the month?
Was your favorite TV show?

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I'm trying to think what I watched this month, I'll
go for We're also gone. Yeah, it was gone for
two weekends.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
We crammed everything in. Towards the end of November.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I watched The Diplomat season two on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Do you like that?

Speaker 2 (27:52):
I did. It's really hard though, And I told you
I was gonna bring this up, so about The Diplomat too,
and about this show on Apple TV. Streaming services have
to stop putting two plus years in between seasons. I
don't know what happened anymore. The amount of TV and
books I read season one out of my head, gone minute,
I'm done watching it. Gone, Like Apple is putting back

(28:14):
out that show's surface. I was like, sounds familiar. It's
coming out in February twenty twenty five. It aired July
through September of twenty twenty two. We've got to stop
putting such a long period of time, or your recap
episode needs to be an hour long. Yeah, I don't
know what happened, thank you.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
That is an issue. I think that's also streaming services.
I mean, TV shows are so expensive to make, and
they don't really make a whole lot of money like
movies do. Like instantly a movie comes out. It can
make money, but I just feel like overall streaming services
are hurting financially, so I think I mean, it's also
less episodes too. If you think about a lot of
those episodes now or seasons or eight ten episodes maybe.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Listen, Virgin River comes out once a year on Netflix.
Some shows can do it ten episodes. It does come
out in two weeks, so I don't clear my calendar
for that.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
For my best TV show in the month, it was
easily The Penguin. If I had to rate a TV show,
I was it close to a five out of five
because at moments it had you rooting for the penguin
and you forget that he's a villain, and by the
end of it, it reminds you, oh, he's a villain.
And I think I love it so much because I
did The Batman with Robert Pattinson was like one of

(29:19):
my favorite portrayals of the character. And now I cannot
wait to see how this ties into the Batman two,
which I think it's good. Like, I don't think they're
gonna put anything out in between that because Batman two
is supposed to come out in twenty twenty six, so
far away. Again with movies too. It takes so long,
but these things are so freaking expensive. But yeah, that

(29:39):
was my favorite show. And Diane, you got a book.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Ye, I don't remember what I read this month. Let's see,
let's go to my We will be doing my yearly
best books. But I will do a plug for this now.
So I'm using this new reading app called story Graph.
It's great, created by a woman. It has like much
better functionality. You can rate by quarter stars, so you
can give like a four point two five, a four
point five, a four point seven five, whereas on Goodreads

(30:05):
you can only give something whole stars, and a four
is very different from four point seven five. But then
I have to read a four point seven five of five,
and I don't mean that it's really a five because
a five is outstanding. So story Graph great. They also
create these cool little like graphics and charts for you
of like the different books you read, by the genre,
the page number, the pace of books.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Story Graph do we put in the episode notes?

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Should? It's amazing? Okay, what did I read this month? Okay?
I'm gonna go with The Brier Club by Kate Quinn
historical fiction, pre visual but not about World War Two.
It is post World War two in like the McCarthy era,
so when they were really worried about communism in the
United States. Kate Quinn is one of my favorite historical
fiction writers, and it's about this group of women that

(30:47):
lives in like the Sporting House, and how their stories
tied to each other. And it takes you through. It's
almost kind of like a mystery at the beginning, and
then you go back and like each woman has a
chapter detailing their backstory. Really well done. Loved that one.
I just love anything Cake Quinn. Right, So, yeah, that's
my book of the month. Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Comic i'm reading right now is Absolute Batman. I read
issue one and two. It's the comic that took me
forever to find.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
It did take a long time to find the one.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, Issue too is really good. That's really all I'm
reading right now. I would say that my goal in
twenty twenty five is going to be to finish a book,
but I just can't do it. I'm going to commit
to comics and graphic novels.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
There you go. I think that's fine, read what you enjoy,
but we will do I'm on my goal this year
with eighty books and I'm reading. I'm reading like four
books right now, but I will finish eighty soon. But
I think the one I'm reading could be in my
top ten list, so I need to finish it before
we record that.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
There you go, anything else you want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I did go start making my list, and I don't
think any of the books that are my favorites of
the year revolved around men. Shocking, I know. Oh. I
also read one. It was called When Women Ran Fifth Avenue.
Very interesting if you're into the history of New York fashion.
It's about how Fit Avenue became this huge shopping mecca

(32:05):
and like all of the department stores back then, and
how at one point women were running all of them.
And I thought that was very fascinating.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
While you were saying that, I realized something ironic. I'm
round dog in this sweatshirt.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I don't think everyone needed to see that much. Trust here.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
All right, We'll come back and do a spoiler free
review of Gladiator too, because you hated it, all right? Alright, alright,
let's get into a spoiler free movie review of Gladiator two.
Before we talk about two. Let's talk about one because
I would say my relationship with the first one is
really wasn't one of my favorite movies in the two thousands,

(32:40):
I can recognize its impact. Really, Scott obviously made that
movie with the intent, I think of making a more
I don't want to say, completely historically accurate movie, but
he did draw a lot of inspiration from actual historical
figures to create Russell Crow's character. So Russell Crost's character
from the first movie is based on a lot of people.

(33:02):
And if I watched that movie, which I actually rewatched
it going into this winter, just because I wanted to
be refreshed. Back when that movie came out, I was
pretty young when I watched it. I remember watching it
on DVD and thinking, Wow, that was a cool movie,
and then I never really thought about it again. I'll
be honest, it's just not one of my favorite movies.
But to some people, this is a covied movie that

(33:25):
a lot of people were upset that it was getting
a sequel. I've been there before. There have been movies
that have made sequels that I was like, you should
not do it. Don't mess with the original, You're only
going to make it worse. I wasn't on that level
with this movie. Didn't have that personal relationship. Gladiator one
and I didn't hook up. We knew each other, we
were friends, we were acquaintances, but it was more like, oh,

(33:46):
another Gladiator movie. That's cool, they're casting Paul Meskel. You know,
I really only know him from After Son a couple
of other movies, mainly from being Phoebe Bridger's ex boyfriend.
I couldn't really see him in that role just because
all the movies I have seen him in he's been
an indie darkling. So I was going into this just
wanting to watch a fun movie. Had no real expectations

(34:09):
into it. You throw Denzel Washington in there, I'm all
in for it. But to some people, they were wanting
to see something as good as the first one, and
I didn't have those expectations. So what Gladiator Too is
about takes place about sixteen years after that original movie.
If you haven't seen it at this point, I feel

(34:31):
like this movie kind of tells you what happens at
the end of Gladiator. Because Russell Crowe is not in
this movie, maybe some people haven't seen it, maybe some
people still want to watch that one before this movie.
I think that is common movie knowledge by Now the
movie is over twenty years old at this point, so
it far exceeds the spoiler warning. So if for some
reason you don't know what happens to Russell Crow's character,

(34:54):
fast forward in this skip this on YouTube. He dies,
so he's not in this one, and that is this
movie is about sixteen years after his death. You have
Paul Meskal's character. I believe I am pronouncing his name right.
I am so fixated on names now after being called
out by saying some people's names wrong, which I believe
is how you say his name Mescal not Mescal, because

(35:15):
I think he gets people confusing it with the alcohol.
But anyway, Paul Meskal's character starts out at the beginning
of this one and he loses everything. He is trying
to defend his city, trying to defend his home, and
Pedro Pascal's character comes in and basically Rex House takes
over the place in the name of the Roman Empire,
and then he is captured and has to be forced

(35:37):
to become a gladiator thrown into the coliseum, much like
Russell Crow did in the first one. Now, big difference
is between the first act of this movie and the
first act of Gladiator one. A lot of similarities a
lot of parallels throughout the entire film, but I would
say where it differs the most is how our characters
get into the coliseum as far as the timeline, and

(35:58):
what I liked about the first one is you spend
a lot more time with Russell Crow's character, getting to
know how badass he is and seeing all those things
of him fighting people, how much of a warrior he is.
I think my favorite scene in that first movie is
whenever he is straight up prisoner and finds a way
to escape and then grabs the sword with his hands

(36:19):
like that was an awesome moment that sets you up
for the rest of the movie that he is going
to be a force to be reckoned with. But in
Gladiator two, everything happens a lot more quickly. It still
starts out with a big battle, much like Gladiator one did,
but you get less time to know Paul Meskal's character,
and really you are only told how strong and how

(36:42):
much of a fighter he is in the beginning. You
learn that later as he fights more and more people
and animals. But I feel like you had more time
to spend with Russell Crow's character and you fully got that, Oh, Okay,
this dude is awesome. He's going to rip everybody to shreds.
With Paul Mess, you kind of had to grow with
the character a little bit more. And I feel like

(37:04):
that hurt the movie a little bit, because I think
that was the one hang up I had going into
the movie. Is this guy really going to be able
to pull off being a gladiator? But dude committed to
getting in shape for the role. He looked great, and
by the end of the movie all of my doubts
were really gone. I just would have liked to see
a little bit more of his development early on, just

(37:26):
to have me rooting for him earlier in the movie.
But that is getting very nitpicky. I understand that. I
always say, in those first twenty minutes you can tell
if a movie is going to be good or not.
And I could tell that this movie was at least
going to be worthy of my time. But I also
knew that it was not going to be as good
as the original, and I started thinking about how that
might feel to some other people. I took into consideration

(37:50):
these film bros after the movie who were really upset
they hated this movie, And I think why that is
is because it tries to be upon the first one,
which a good sequel does. And I almost feel like
if this would have been a standalone sequel, less people
would have had a problem with it. And I think

(38:10):
you could have done that because the gladiator format is
kind of there. You take the same situation, but just
don't try to tie it into that first one whatsoever.
I think when they started to do that, the plotline
became a little bit more unbelievable. The waters got a
little muddy, and all of the webs of how this
connected to Hear just didn't quite add up. I think

(38:32):
that is what really hurt this movie. If he would
have just been an entirely new character, had no connection
with that one, it would have felt less like, Oh,
you're making this sequel to spit on the grave of
the first one. I don't think that's what Ridley Scott
was trying to do. And the other thing you have
to realize about Ridley Scott, dude is eighty seven years old.

(38:52):
He does not care at this point what anybody thinks
of his movies. He just doesn't. He is making movies
that he wants to make. Why didn't you do that?
At eighty seven years old. Look at Napoleon. I feel
like he'd been wanting to make that movie for a
long time. And the thing that he does is he
makes historical dramas with really bloody, intense violence. That is

(39:15):
his calling card. And the difference between Gladiator one and
two is I feel with Gladiator one he at least
tried to pull inspiration from historical facts and be a
little bit more accurate, and in this one. For Gladiator two,
he straight up just said to people, were you there?

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Like?

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Were you there back in the day? I don't think
you were. So I'm gonna make this movie based upon
what I've read and based upon the movie I want
to make. And that tells me that he doesn't care
what you think, and I can respect that. Again, dude
is eighty seven years old, has made amazing movies throughout
his career, is a legendary director. Why should I be

(39:58):
questioning his decisions? The studio isn't The studio is letting
them make these movies. This movie was in development starting
back in twenty eighteen. They didn't start filming until twenty
twenty two. I don't even think we heard until twenty
twenty three. That Paul Meskal was cast as the lead,
and then you have a fantastic cast with Denzel Washington,
who was my favorite in this movie, Pedro Pascal, who

(40:19):
was kind of just there. Pedro is solid and everything.
I really enjoy him as an actor. I don't know
that his presence really took this movie to another level,
but I enjoyed his role, and I don't think it
was as impactful as anything from the first movie where
he had Russell Crow and Joaquin Phoenix, which was just
acting on an entirely different level. But so I just
think Ridley Scott said out with the intention of I

(40:41):
want to do everything that I couldn't fit in that
first One grand example of that is the rhino. He
wanted that rhino in the first movie. But back when
they were making that early two thousands, you have to
think you're still in like late nineties technology. The CG
guy and special effects weren't there. They couldn't make it happen.
And now in twenty twenty four and in the last

(41:02):
couple of years that they were making this movie, he
could finally get his rhino. What surprised me about that
is that rhino didn't look that good. Really, none of
the animals looked that good in this movie, and that
is what took me out of it. Started with the monkeys,
which we're vicious looking. I love that scene, but the
monkeys look fake. The rhino looked fake from the trailer.

(41:23):
If you've seen the trailer, at least you see they
fill the Colosseum with water and there are sharks roaming
around in the waters in the colisseum. He says, were
you there? Apparently that to him at least that happened.
And while it doesn't feel authentic, maybe it's authentic to him.
And I could sit here and cry about how it

(41:43):
didn't feel real or set in reality, but to be honest,
I didn't really care about that. At that point. I
was sold on the story. I was able to suspend
disbelief and just allow myself to enjoy it because I
wasn't holding it to the standards of the first one.
Once I realized it wasn't going to be as good.

(42:04):
It is just a fun action movie with some real
good acting. Rarely do you get a movie that is
both fun and has great a level acting from Denzel Washington,
Paul Mesk, the entire cast, fantastic actors, and that is
really what elevates this movie. If you didn't have them,
if you didn't have such a great director as really Scott,

(42:27):
this movie would be hot garbage. But you don't have
to worry about that because you have really great people
making this art. And it might not be what you
wanted in the sequel, but I truly believe this is
exactly the movie they wanted to make. And a lot
of people were saying this was a lazy sequel, I
would say, aside from the special effect, which it is
just surprising to me, how bad they looked and how

(42:50):
cheap they looked. This was a much more expensive movie
than the first one. I think almost one hundred million
more that they spent on this movie, and it still
it didn't quite look like that price tag, and it's
unfairly well at the box office, still about one hundred
million less at the time of recording this under what
the first one made in its entire run. So I

(43:13):
still think it'll climb towards that as we go through
the holiday season. I don't know if it's gonna be
as profitable now because it already cost one hundred million
dollars more but that was the only part to me
that felt lazy in any way. And I don't know
if it was just too ambitious of special effects to
have some of these animals that it was gonna be

(43:33):
hard for this not to look fake. And I know
a lot of people were complaining about the use of
CGI and special effects. When it comes to filling out
the colisseum, what are you gonna do? Are you gonna
get thousands and thousands of extras in there? I don't
think that is gonna happen. There are other little things
that you think about. As people are speaking in the coliseum,

(43:55):
there's no microphones and they're speaking out into the abyss,
and you're assuming that everybody there can hear. So there
are just some things that aren't going to add up
when it comes to those little details. But I would
say overall, the action is there, the performances are there,
and even though the animals don't look the way I
would envision them to look in a movie that costs

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this much, it's really not that distracting unless you're just
being like, oh, why does that thing look so weird?

Speaker 2 (44:23):
To me?

Speaker 1 (44:24):
That is just a thing I noticed that I was
surprised by but overall, nothing about this screamed cash grab
to me. And even if it was the only reason,
I feel okay with it in this sense because most
times I get annoyed by cash crabs. I feel like
it makes me think less of the people who make
a movie for that reason. But in one of the

(44:45):
plot lines, I feel like Ridley Scott told us why
he made this movie. Because this movie focuses a lot
on power, particularly the cost of power. Legacy is what
you inherit from the past. And there is one moment
that I won't reveal every thing that has spoken and
all the details around it, but they make a reference
to why people do certain things, and the reason they

(45:08):
give is because of money. And I feel like that
was really Scott telling us why would I make a
sequel twenty plus years after the original one. I'll tell
you in the movie it is because of money. I
think he is setting up his family and thinking about
his legacy of is he going to leave behind movies
that he is truly proud of and does he want

(45:29):
to be on his deathbed thinking oh, I just would
have made this movie and done it this way, done
it my own way. That is what I regret because
that's what you regret in life, the things you don't do.
I think that is what he is doing at this
point in his career. You get the best of both worlds.
You make the money, which is the root of power,
just like in this movie, and then you leave behind
the legacy of all these films. He told us in

(45:52):
the plot line. So you can't be mad at that,
because he showed his cards. He revealed it to us
exactly why he is doing this, exactly why he's made
making movies. And most times I would have an issue
with the director making a movie without me the viewer
in mind. How selfish of them. But it's Raisley Scott.
I'm gonna keep going back to the well, even though
I know exactly what he's gonna do at this point.

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So for gladiat Or two, I give it four out
of five swords.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
It's time to head down to movie Mike trailer Paul.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
First full trailer for the new Snow White Live action
remake is out, and I think it's gonna be Disney's
worst bomb. Just looking at the numbers here, which let's
break down Snow White by the numbers. The movie cost
two hundred and nine million dollars to make. Initially wasn't
going to be that expensive, but they had to do
a lot of reshoots. This movie has been in development

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for eight years, took about two and a half years
to film, multiple rewrites. I would say, just looking at
the trailer, endless amount of scenes with unnecessary CGI. I
think initially they were gonna have real actors play the
Seven Dwarves. I remember seeing a set photo of snow
White with actual actors. They opted out of that because

(47:10):
I think they had some pushback online of people not
wanting to see that in the movie, saying that probably
wasn't the way to go. So now all the Seven
Doors are CGI characters and they look freaky. Their facial
features just look disturbing to me, and I am an
adult man. I can only imagine a kid going to
see this movie, especially a younger kid, probably gonna be

(47:30):
a little terrified at the Seven Dwarves. They're not cute
and friendly like they were in the animated movie, which
the animated movie is so good. Their first ever animated
movie back in nineteen thirty seven, obviously way before all
of our times. And what I love about that movie
is it has such a warmth to it, that hand
drawn animation, just seeing those characters come to life with
the soundtrack. It is the classic. And they have tried

(47:53):
to do all different kinds of snow White movies. Not
all of them have been Disney because snow White is
in the public domain. So you've seen movies like snow
White and The Huntsmen and all these prequels and Maleficent,
although I think that was still Disney, but they want
to go back to their very original movies, their core

(48:14):
source material with snow White, and this movie just, oh,
it just feels to me like it's gonna have a
bad time at the box office. Going back to the
numbers right now, the trailer has, at the time of
recording this twenty four thousand likes on YouTube. It's pretty good,
but it has six hundred thousand dislikes. It might be

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in history now the most disliked movie trailer of all
time on YouTube, and that is not good. So what
Disney has done here, much like they've done with their
other classic movies, they reimagine them for a live action adaptation.
You have snow White being played by Rachel Zegler, Evil
Moleficent being played by Galagado. She is the evil Queen,

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and it looks like this movie isn't going to feature
the traditional love story from the Snow White. There is
no Prince Charming character. There is a character named Jonathan
played by Andrew Burtnapp, but by the looks of this trailer,
it looks the plotline they are following along snow White.
At her home, she doesn't get along with the evil Queen.
Somebody warns her and tells her, you need to leave

(49:20):
here because she's gonna try to kill you. So she
goes out and lives in the woods, finds the Seven Dwarfs,
and then realizes that she needs to go back home
and fight for her people, fight for her city because
they need her. So maybe something the Seven Dwarfs do
inspire her. It still looks like they sing all the
same songs. There's just no real love story, so I
think they're trying to get away from that. They feel

(49:41):
that story is outdated. Rachel Zegler has been very, very
opinionated almost how she doesn't even like the story in
the original movie, which leads me to believe is she
even doing this because she likes snow White or is
it just a paycheck. It just seems like nobody associated
with this movie really wants to be a part and
that is going to be a big issue when you're

(50:02):
trying to sell this movie. They're out doing the press
run if they don't truly believe in it. And it
had so many reshoots and issues and production delays that
I just don't feel good about this movie going in
the theater. Before I get into more, here's just a
little bit of the snow white trailer, magic mirror on

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the wall. Who is the fairest of them all? Fame
is the beauty majesty, a lovely maiden.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I now behold, I look at you, and I just
want to be the fairest of them all. The Queen
is evil, evens flee into the woods. Queen, it's a human.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
What did you think I was nothing? Ghost? So you
hear some of the high ho there at the end.
One of my favorite teens is when they are like
mining and they have like the things in their eyes.
You see a little glimpse of that here too. I
think the problem with this is that nobody asked for it.
I also feel that this story is too classic now

(51:12):
to be remade. It is so outdated with the values
and just a plot line and the level of storytelling
that I think just taking a known property and remaking
it doesn't really have that same effect because it's just
so outdated. It's too classic. The character of snow White
is ancient that I feel that Hollywood has been punching

(51:33):
this bag to death and no one cares to see
anything about it because it's all something we already know.
I don't even feel like kids these days want to
go and rewatch the original one because it's so dated.
So I just think the time that this story takes
place is just not going to work. And if you
try to make it so updated where snow White is

(51:54):
texting and trying to appeal to gen z and she's
a streamer instead of living out in the woods, or
you could be like a YouTuber who lives out in
nature with seven dudes. Maybe that would work better. But
I just feel that a musical at this level isn't
going to have the same effect essay a Wicked because
it's just not on the entirely same level. If you

(52:15):
look at the production design in this trailer and the
wardrobe and all the characters, there's just not that craft
behind this, you can't feel the love in it. It
is from director Mark Webb, who I like. He directed
the amazing Spider Man one and two. He did Five
Hundred Days of Summer before those movies. I think he
is a good director, but I just don't think that

(52:36):
even having somebody like him behind this is gonna make
me think it is a good movie. And then you
have Rachel Segler, who really is a new actress that
really hasn't had that breakthrough role yet. She was in
the Hunger Games prequel. She was just in y Chu K,
which I will review next week. She also had a
role in Shazam Fury of the Gods.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
I thought she was.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Pretty good in that. People hated that movie. I at
the time I enjoyed it. I still haven't gone back
and rewatched that one. I felt like that movie was
kind of like a roller coaster to me. I wrote
it once. I don't really care to get on it again.
But I think she is a good actor. It just
feels like her relationship with this movie hasn't been good

(53:16):
and she said some things that a lot of people
they may have rubbed them the wrong way. So I
feel whenever you have somebody like that being so outspoken
about not liking things about the original movie, It's gonna
make you think that, well, do they even really want
to do this movie? Are you buying into them with
this character? And when you see other people like Ariana

(53:37):
Grande loving the history of the Wizard of Oz and
being so invested in it, even tweeting like ten years
ago that it was her dream to be a part
of Wicked and do this role, and you hear you
have her ten fifteen years later actually doing it much
different level. I don't think anybody is that passionate that
they dreamed of being snow White able to play them

(54:01):
whenever their acting career came to fruition. And then you
have gal Gado, who is always I feel, a safe
choice for studios because she does have success as wonder Woman,
she has that name recognition. A lot of people give
her crap for not being a good actor. I think
she's a good actor. I just feel like she is

(54:21):
that safe investment that studios make where they need to
find somebody who fits the role but most importantly that
they can sell. But even just from the trailer, I
don't really see any chemistry or connection between Snow White
and the Evil Queen, And there's nothing about the trailer
that screams to me, I need to go see this
in theaters. And there are some good songs in Snow White,

(54:43):
but I don't think it's anything that is heightened by
experiencing that with other people. This screams. Disney Plus just
has it written all over to me. To me, this
is a movie they should have made and put out,
and maybe because it has been in development for so long,
when they were first launching Disney Plus, whenever they put
out the Lie Action Lady in the Tramp Movie when
that service first rolled out, and even putting out Pinocchio

(55:05):
during the pandemic. This feels on that level to me
that it's gonna be very lifeless, very stiff and stale,
and a classic tale that just doesn't need to be retold.
But I also don't think I am so outraged by
the trailer it hate it so much that's gonna stop
me from going to Seed in theaters so I can
review and talk about it on the podcast. I'm not

(55:26):
at a level red one what I now refer to
as movies I refuse to see in theaters. I just
think at some point they just have to stop remaking
these animated movies into live action movies, because when is
it going to end? But again, this movie is coming
out next year on March twenty first at that for
was this week's edition of Movie min Tramer par and

(55:47):
that is gonna do it for another episode here of
the podcast. Before I go, I got to give my
listener a shout out of the week this week. I'm
going over to Instagram and shouting out Anthony Miller who
tagged me in his Instagram story because he did his
Spotify rapped and Movie Mike's Movie Podcast came in at
number three. So appreciate that Anthony Miller, and have everybody

(56:08):
who tagged me in that, which I super appreciate. Thank
you all for listening every single week, making me a
part of your day, part of your week. Whenever you
go listen, maybe you go listen to a few episodes
at once. That means the world to me. And in
Anthony's top three, he goes Movie Mike's Movie Podcast, New Heights.
I can respect that number one the Bobby Bone Show.
So I am in a great top three there. Thank

(56:29):
you Anthony, Thank you movie crew. If you haven't posted
your rap yet and tag me in it. Do that,
and maybe I'll give you next week's listener shout out.
And until then, go out and watch good movies and
I will talk to you later