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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, welcome to a very special edition of the podcast.
This is a bonus spoiler filled review of Spider Man
No Way Home, and I'm stressing that point a lot.
There will be spoilers contained in this review. I've never
really done this because I like to keep it to
where everybody could listen to every single review, whether you've
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seen the movie or not. But for this one, there
were so many spoilers around Spider Man No Way Home
that I felt like it kind of influenced how I
did that review. So this one, we're getting into every
single plot line, every single moment in this movie that
made it so special, and I feel like it can
fully dive into everything knowing that you're either here because
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you've already watched the movie, or maybe you're not going
to watch the movie at all and you want it
completely ruined, or maybe you're somebody who likes their movie
spoiled before going into it, which I'll get into all
that stuff here. So this will be the most laid
back review I've ever done for that very reason. It's
a bonus episode years, So last warning, there will be
spoilers after this moment if you don't want to listen
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to them click out of this podcast. I've given you
the time. Here we go. Let's get into the spoiler
filled version of No Way Home, starting first at the
reason let's just start the main thing. The reason I
couldn't really give this number one in the ranking, and
the reason I couldn't even allude to it is because
the biggest moment that we all know now after seeing
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this movie is that Toby McGuire returned to Spider Man
Andrew Garfield returned. One of the biggest secrets I've ever
seen kept from a movie, whether you kind of knew
about it or not, which I addressed it before, whether
or not it would happen, so people were able to
put it together. But outside of that, how Marvel was
able to kind of keep that under wraps of like
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the majority of people who didn't really like me spend
your time researching Spider Man didn't really know, and that
they didn't keep or we're able to keep told me
my guire from like being spotted or letting it slip,
and then Andrew Garfield having to promote an entirely different
movie and getting questioned about it time and time again
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that for the most part, I felt like they did
a really good job at keeping that under wraps and
keeping that a secret. But that moment where that happened
and where you see Ned open up the portal and
you see Andrew Garfield Spider Man, I think was one
of the greatest moments. Like I knew at that point
that it was coming, but it doesn't take away from
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how amazing that moment felt. And then with the reveal
of Toby McGuire coming out, I felt like that was
even more emotional because I mean, that's the Spider Man
franchise that started at all. Toby McGuire coming back into
that role, I felt almost like I was dreaming. That's
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kind of the way I've been describing this is that
that entire moment, that entire plot line, to me, was
something that wouldn't be achieved. It was something that I
thought us as fans could only like, like, oh, we
want all three Spider Man in one movie, and I
felt like it was such a high demand just to
ask that that being able to actually see that happen
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was incredible, And it's different than just cameos in a movie,
like I know that's not an unheard thing of of
like I'll bring somebody back from a previous franchise and
to have a cameo, but this wasn't a cash grab cameo.
The entire kind of movie plot line was based on
them returning and then also was essential to the story,
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and it didn't really feel tacked onto me. So I
felt like that entire part of it really worked. And
then having them all in there together was just the
biggest moment that I've ever felt in a movie theater.
I thought it was bigger than an endgame. When everybody
assembles like this entire movie, I felt more moments to
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me than endgame, And when they're all back together like it,
it just kind of ignited you and made me want
to yell and cheer, which everybody in my theater did,
and I feel like that's what made the movie for me. Obviously,
the biggest part of them all returning them all hanging out,
them all talking about Spider Man things together, and then
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them leaping into battle together was the greatest sequence. So
I thought that secret was very well kept, and then
I wanted to have that feeling in theater, so I
even started to convince myself that it wasn't happening, It
wasn't gonna happen. It was gonna be something else. It
was gonna be venom, and I was trying to kind
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of keep a secret for myself because I wanted to
enjoy that and it be confirmed in the theater. I
didn't really take pleasure or want to take pleasure in
knowing beforehand that that was going to happen. So I
thought that was perfect. And I think that's something in
movies that's never really been done before on that high
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of a level, bringing back people who have been in
other franchises. And I would really just like to figure
out exactly how that came together. I know it was tough,
but it was well worth it for all of us
as fans. And I think that's what it comes down to,
is that moment alone was done for the Spider Man
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fans like me, like you if you're listening to this,
because you're probably a big Spider Man fan as well,
Like that was for us. Like to know the impact
of that moment, you had to have watched every single
Spider Man movie from Toby Maguire to Andrew Garfield even
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into the Spider Verse and all that, Like you have
to be so invested into that to truly enjoy that
moment and to know what it means. And I think
that's what Marvel has kind of done such a good
job at is they really pay things off to their fans.
Same thing with Endgame. Going into Endgame, it was such
a big thing because we were so invested in that.
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We've seen every single Marvel movie leading up to that,
and that's who that movie was for. Oftentimes, when these
big movies come out, the message I get a lot.
It's like, oh, how many do I need to watch
going into this? Which is fine. I get it. You
don't have time to watch all these movies. You're not
as being a nerd as me, Like I get it,
Like you don't. There's a lot of movies. You have
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things to do, you don't have, you know, and you
can't watch every And I try to give you, know,
the description of what to watch, like leading into this one.
I think you'd watch Homecoming and Far from Home and
probably okay going into this, but you don't get that
same feeling. So if you've only did like the cheat
sheet version of what to watch going into this one,
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I don't think that moment would have that same impact
for you. So I think that moment was for the fans.
I think this entire movie was for the hardcore fans.
So that was the biggest plot point for me, and
why I think that very other aside from Spider Man Too,
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even rivals that. But also now that I can say
it is this one would only exist with the other franchises,
like you take that out, and I mean you could
say you take anything out of the movie, but if
you take that out, it would rank lover. It wouldn't
be the same movie, and it requires all the other
movies to be where I ranked it at number two.
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And that's why I ranked in the last episode spider
Man two as the best Spider Man movie because it's standalone.
But this one took all those things to make it there,
but it happened. It's a real thing, so that's why
I felt comfortable putting it there. So that's the biggest
thing I wanted to talk about. I think everybody's been
wanting to talk about, and it's been all over TikTok,
It's been everywhere. So if you've been able to see
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it or able to see it without the spoiler, I'm
happy for you because I was able to the other
major thing, and I'll get into all the moments where
I cried is aunt May's death, which I talked about
it in the review. Oh, I felt like this was
the first time Peter Parker's played by Tom Holland, has
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actually felt lost, and I wanted to get more into that.
But like him losing aunt May in this it was
really a turning point for him and what ended up
being the reason that he got so kind of enraged
again and wanted to kill the Green Goblin. And if
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you know Spider Man like, he doesn't kill like he
gets to the point where he defeats people, but his
mission is never to kill, which I think that's any
heroes mission. You don't really kill people because the effect
it will have on you. In that moment where he
loses her, I think I felt it so much because one,
I didn't think she was gonna die, and then when
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he sees the blood on his hand, you're like, oh crap,
she's about to die. And that moment was pretty emotional,
and you see that shift in him, that clicking him
that he's now experience lost. He's at the lowest he
can be. Green Goblin's really beating him down, and he's
had that moment now that all the other Spider Man
have had, and it was the perfect introduction of Toby
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McGuire and Andrew Garfield at that moment. And the other
kind of thing, I'll go back to them incorporating Andrew
Garfield and told me McGuire is I was thinking, you know, like,
how would they do that in a way to where
Tom Holland was still a star of this movie? And
they did that, and I think it was through him
losing aunt May and being the real leader. Here is
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where Tom Holland really shine and was able to keep
his performance at a level to where he was still
a star of the movie, and Toby and Andrew were
equal parts to it and gave back to the plot,
but it was still his movie. So that's the moment
where I cried. The other one was probably where the
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scene took place at the fight scene, the final fight scene,
and it's Andrew Garfield getting his redemption moment, which some
other people were speculating online whenever they showed it in
the trailer of MJ falling and somebody going to rescue him,
they were like, Oh, that's not Andrew Garfield's or rather
Tom Holland's hand, that's Andrew Garfields had going to save her,
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which you saw in the movie that Tom Holland goes
to save her, he gets taken out by the Green Goblin,
Andrew Garfield goes in with the same And why that's
so emotional and so kind of gripping is that at
the end of The Amazing Spider Man Too, he loses
Gwen and that same thing, like he tries to say,
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he has all these moments to where he's trying to
do all these things at once with his Green Goblin,
clock tower and saving m J. Tries to savor with
this web and em the stone Head hits and she dies,
and that's what tears him. That's what basically recks him
his emotional moment in that movie. So here him getting
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to save m J in that same scenario, it hit.
I really love the way they did that of like
Toby being so overcome excuse me, Andrew being so overcome
by emotion as he saved her toward the point where
m J has to say, are you okay? And it
was just something in me that realized, like what that
really meant? And again back to what I was saying earlier,
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a moment for the fans like, if you didn't see
that movie or you didn't recall that moment, I mean,
maybe that seen wasn't as emotional to you. And then
the final thing that got me so emotional was the
very end where he's saying by to m J making
the decision that everybody's going to forget who he is
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so he can save the world. She says, I love you,
but tells him to wait until they meet again, and
that kind of solidified their relationship and their love story,
which hasn't been really the main focus of Tom holland
Spider Man, like it was such a focus and Toby
McGuire and Andrew Garfield, but there's came more and far
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from Home and it kind of really came together here
in this movie and you see more of that relationship
developed where he's even questioning whether or not she loves
him because of who he is or she loves him
because he is a Spider Man. And I love that
they ended it there. It didn't end on a happy note.
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It ended on him with the harsh realization and having
to live with his decisions now. So I love it
when movies don't end with a happy ending. Everything tied
up in a Bow because it's real life, like, it
feels more real to me. It feels more authentic that
everything isn't summed up at the end of the movie.
So those were all the big emotional plot points that
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solidify this to me as a perfect Spider Man movie.
Some of the other cool things in this movie that
one I wasn't expecting. I kind of was hinted off
a little bit before going into it, but the scene
where his lawyer in the movie is Matthew Murdoch from Daredevil,
the one on Netflix, Like that was a big like
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thing to me, and maybe not a whole lot of
people in the theater kind of realized that because I
think that is all of those Marvel Netflix shows were
some of the greatest shows that didn't really get the
attention they deserved or the extra amount of seasons they deserved.
But Matthew Murdoch as Daredevil in the Netflix series, it's fantastic, Like,
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that's one of my favorite Marvel TV shows. And now
they're more focused on the Disney Plus stuff. So seeing
him in that movie and hoping that it opens up
to more cameos and other Spider Man films or even
just the Daredevil thing like, I'm excited about that. I
found that all these things surrounding the Spider Man movie,
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all the emotional moments, that it was made so much
for the fans and just to like really live nothing
on the table. They went all in on this movie
and it felt perfect to me. So now we are
looking ahead to the next installment. Where did they go
from here? I am really curious, obviously to see who
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all comes back in the next movie. I don't think
it's Toby Maguire and Andrew Garfield. Again, there's some speculation
now that maybe Andrew Garfield will finally get his part
three to The Amazing Spider Man. I'd be down to
see that. How these will maybe connected to Venom. I
will also be excited to see that, but it is
already in the works. I don't know how they topped
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this one. I don't know that you need to top
this one. I think just giving everybody this movie for
what it is, like, you don't have to achieve anything greater.
I think what they have to focus on now is
how do they wrap up this story? How do they
end this chapter on still a high note and not
take anything away from what they've created, Because I think
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with every Spider Man before this, you know, with Spider
Man three, who Toby McGuire left a little bit of
like kind of went out on the weakest of it,
with Andrew Garfield not getting a third film. Now they
have a chance to go beyond a trilogy and really
sum it up here and figure out how to end
this thing, which I feel they should end in the
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next one, Like I don't think you keep going, which
I get. You know, you still make a lot of
money on these movies, with it being the third biggest,
with some of the numbers out there of all time
on the opening release, there's a demand to make money there.
Spider Man just generates revenue. That's what the franchise does.
But I think for us as fans, we want to
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see the story play out and and where it needs to.
As much as I would love to keep watching Spider
Man movies like this in theaters and experiencing this, you know,
every three or four years, I also just want to
be able to look back on this and think, like
man like that is the perfect franchise. So there we go.
That is my full spoiler film review of Spider Man
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No Way Home. Thanks for listening, and I we'll talk
to you later.