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back to movie Mike's movie podcast. If you ever hear
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do that. I am your host Movie Mike. This week,
I'm talking about the best, worst, and most disappointing DC movies.
I'm still writing off the high of Superman, which I'll
get into later how I'm getting so much hate for that.
In the movie review, I'll be talking about I Know
what you did last summer, And in the trailer park
we'll be talking about weapons that has Josh Brolin in it.
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That is the only trailer I've watched recently that has
scared me, like legitimately not expecting to twenty eight years later,
trailer freaked me out, but this one got a genuine
reaction for me. It looks awesome. Thank you for being here,
Thank you for being subscribed. Shout out to the Monday
Morning Movie crew. And now let's talk movies from the
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Nashville Podcast Network. This is Movie Mike Movie Podcast. You see,
That's why I do it. I'm warmed up. I'm ready
to go all right, best, worst, and most disappointing DC movies,
DC comics as a whole. I feel when I sit
down to read comics, my dumb brain tends to enjoy
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Marvel comics more because they are easier to read. But DC,
I would say, has the more complex stories, the more
adult stories. When it comes to the DC titles, I
really love. It's the one that are like seventeen plus,
which means they have a lot of violence, a lot
of blood. And also when it comes to the movies,
I'm a Marvel guy. I always have been since I
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was a kid. That's why Spider Man is tattooed on
my arm. So coming up with this list of the
top ten DC movies was actually pretty tough, and it
was actually much easier to come up with my worst,
but I didn't want to do a full on here
my ten wordt DC movies. I decided to spread it
up and I have my top five worst and my
top five disappointing, which I feel are different because some
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are just so bad. And I would say when it
comes to DC, they have the bad of the bad.
Marvel has bad, but even Marvel's bad is still watchable.
DC's bad is not watchable. It's not worth the revisit.
But first, let's kick it off with the positive. At
number ten, I have Birds of Prey starring Margo Robbie.
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It came out in twenty twenty. It's called Birds of Prey,
but also had a really long title when it came out,
Birds of Prey and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn.
Harley Quinn is the one character that is unlike every
other DC character because she did not have a comic
book debut. Most comic book character that's where they debut,
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and then later they are turned into either an animated
show or they have their big screen debut. Harley Quinn's
first appearance was in nineteen ninety two in Batman, the
animated series, in an episode titled Joker's Favor. She was
created specifically for that show, not for the comics, but
became such a big part of that animated show that
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she went on to be one of the most memorable
DC characters. And I believe that Margot Robbie as Harley
Quinn is the same scenario as Hugh Jackman as Wolverine
in Marvel as in I do not want to see
this character recast. If they ever did recast her, I
would not accept that person because I think there are
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some actors who were just destined to play certain characters
who embodied them so much that I could not see
anybody else doing it but them. And Margot Robbie as
Harley Quinn is that. And the reason I believe that
this movie wasn't as big of a hit as it
needed to be one because it came out in February
of twenty twenty, so that obviously hurt the movie. Also,
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that really long title. Whenever I went to go see
it in theaters, I remember them abbreviating it no matter what,
and even if you just shorten it to birds of Prey,
you still don't really know what that is, not that
you're going fully blind to a movie theater, like, oh,
I wonder what I should watch today? Birds of Prey
have no idea, but still that at some level of confusion,
And anytime you add any level of confusion to something
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meant for the masses, it's gonna hurt you a little bit.
So the really long title, even though it was an
artistic choice, they should have just called that movie Harley
Quinn and I feel like it would have resonated a
little bit more. But the actual movie, I believe, was fantastic.
It had some great action, it had a great story.
I thought it really captured the chaotic, just nature of
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her character, how rebellious she is. It was also rated R,
which I think d C has leaned more into overall,
and is really where they have the edge over Marvel
is their willingness to put out movies that it's gonna
limit the audience a little bit because it's our rated,
not going to be appealing to kids, even though I
feel like a lot of kids end up watching these
movies anyway. But like I was mentioning earlier, with the
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more adult themed graphic novels and comics. I think that's
what d C does really well, and the titles that
really excite me as we're going to see on this list.
So I really believe that this movie came out at
the wrong time. If it would have came out last
year or even this year, with what DC is doing
with our new slate, I think it would have had
a much better chance at success. Still, a really fantastic
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movie just did not get its fair shake at the
box office. So at number ten, I have Birds of
Prey at number eight. I'm going to be so biased
here and this is gonna be the one that people
don't agree with the most, but I still believe in
my heart of hearts. Also, it's one of the most
watched DC movies for me as far as saw it
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twice in theaters, have seen it multiple times at home
on streaming. It is twenty twenty three's Blue Beetle I
Love Cholo made Duena as Jim Reis, and it's because
it was the first time I watched a superhero comic
book movie where I saw myself in a character, where
I saw members of my family. His dad feels so
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much like my dad, his uncle feels a lot like
not my uncle, but more like my brother. I love
that this movie committed to the use of Spanish. I
love the music and the references to our culture. You
have these characters talking about things that I've only talked
about with my immediate family and my cousins. So it
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brought a much needed representation to the big screen. And
overall is a great and slightly different origin story than
what we've been getting time and time again. But overall,
I still love this movie. And if there's one character
I hope that James Gunn continues to use because I
think he's gonna keep using Harley Quinn. They've worked together before.
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I think that will happen. But the one character I
feel kind of hangs at the balance is Chilama Dee
Duina as Blue Beetle. I know they are going to
do an animated Blue Beatle show, but I want to
see him come back into another DC project. With all
they have coming out, which is a lot. So at
number nine I have Blue Beetle from twenty twenty three,
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and at number eight I have twenty seventeen's Wonder Woman.
It is astounding to believe when you look at the
history of DC. It took until twenty fourteen for Wonder
Woman just to get her debut in a theatrical movie,
and it was borderline cameo because it came to us
in twenty fourteen's The Lego Movie, and then made her
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live action debut in twenty six teens Batman Versus Superman.
Then it wasn't until twenty seventeen that we got our
first female led superhero movie with gal Gado as Wonder Woman,
which man, I keep seeing her get dragged on TikTok
so much for her acting. But I don't think we
were saying that back when Wonder Woman first came out,
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because this movie was so groundbreaking and long overdue. Much
like some of the other movies on this list, I
think at that time, Diana was the hero that we
needed when that was strong, compassionate, and overall just inspiring.
Had a really awesome theme, which I still think is
one of the best themes in DC. But the movie
came out and became the highest grossing female superhero movie
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and the highest grossing live action movie by a female director.
Shout out to Patty Jenkins at number eight. I have
wonder Woman. Wonder Woman at number seven from twenty twenty one,
I have the Yes, I said the Suicide Squad directed
by James Gunn again, See, has always just had issues
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with confusion and audiences just being like, wait, what who's
part of this? Where does this go? And the fact
that we had already had a Suicide Squad movie. When
this movie rolled out in twenty one, people were confused
because it was like, are they remaking Suicide Squad? Well,
it's like no, it's a different director, it's James Gunn now,
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and it's all different characters. But there's also some characters
from that because you have Harley Quinn again, but everybody
else is new. But what this movie showed me, and
now what Superman has showed me, is James Gunn can
take something that was crap, that was burnt pieces of
rubble and build art out of it. Because this movie
was so hymn. It was so bright and colorful. And
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now as we see more of his work, we are
starting to see more of his calling cards and more
of his signature style, whether it's animals, whether it's big
cosmic colors, whether it's giant monsters ripping through cities that
are bare cartoonish and comic book like and out of
this world, and things you would never imagine to see
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in a movie of this scale. And he did also
with an R rating, which again I love the R
rated movies in the superhero world because you can get
real violence, you can get characters with guns. Not so
much for the cursing. I don't really feel like that
adds a whole lot to me, Like I don't go
watch an R rated movie thinking, man, I really hope
they say the F word at least seventeen times in
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this I just feel like it ads another level of authenticity.
When you see characters bloody, when you see some characters
die in the case of the Suicide Squad, you see
a lot of brutal debts, people having exploding parts, heads popping,
a lot of wild things that you would never imagine
to see on a movie of this scale. It was
also oddly emotional, and I think about James Gunn. He
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can make you feel emotions for characters that are inanimate objects,
that are animals like King Shark. Oh man, there's a
moment in King Shark where I fell for him so much,
and I had to question myself after watching this movie,
like why was I so invested in a giant shark
who barely even spoke words. So whether it's that, whether
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it's a giant tree who only says his name, those
are the calling cards of James Gunn and I'm more
excited to see what he does with other characters as
he builds out this DC universe. So this movie was
critically loved. I loved it, but again another movie that
was financially hurt by COVID, And this was at a
time where HBO Max was putting out movies in theaters
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but also on Max at the same time, so that
really hurt this movie as well because it cost one
hundred and eighty five million dollars to make and only
made one hundred and sixty eight point seven million dollars.
So you see that. I'm glad they're not on that
model anymore. And as we can see through Justice Year alone,
that when movies come out in theaters and people really
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want to see them, they show up. For a while
there in twenty one and twenty two, I started to think, Man,
are people just not going to go back to the theater?
Have we become so used to having everything at home
that that experience is just gonna go Away. I was
worried there for a bit, but it turns out we
just needed better movies because this year is still on
pace for me to be the best movie year since
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twenty nineteen. But at number seven, I have The Suicide Squad.
At number six, I have The Batman from twenty twenty two.
This was the detective side of Batman that we had
never seen before, because we've seen every other iteration. We've
seen the dark, campy Batman with Tim Burton, we had
seen Batman with nipples, We've seen really bad Batman's up
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to this point, but this was darker and grittier, even
darker and grittier than Christopher Nolan's Batman. But that was
one of the things that they never really leaned into,
that Batman is not only great at fighting villains, but
he's also really smart and a great detective. And I
just remember being so engulfed in flames and rain and
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car chases during this movie that I literally felt my
brain changing as I was watching something that I knew
was going to really resonate with me and change me
as a person. And it's so hard for a movie
to do that. But I remember turning over to Kelsey
at the moment between the chase between Batman and the
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penguin and saying, this is such a good movie. I
love this so much. And Matt Reeves has been working
on The Batman two now for so long. It looks
like we are going to get it at some point
twenty twenty seven. I'm not even looking at that day
because we were supposed to get it this year. Twenty
twenty five is the year where we're supposed to get
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this sequel. But apparently he has sent the script to
James Gunn, who he received that script on the week
that Superman came out and didn't have time to read it.
Could you imagine getting the script to The Batman two
and just being like, I'm not gonna get to that
right now. I'll read that later. But it's only because
you're so busy talking about your biggest movie right now
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with Superman. But man, I just hope that Robert Pattinson
isn't going to get a little bit too old and
not be able to play the Batman anymore. Paul Dana
was also fantastic as the Riddler. Everything about this movie
was great. I hope they lean even more into the
r rating at number five. This is where I'm putting
Superman twenty twenty five. This is where the new era starts.
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I think I easily could have been so much influenced
by recency bias and put this movie even higher. But
then I started to look at the movies that I've
been a fan of for so long, movies that have
really shaped DC and again not even focusing on DC
as a universe, but even before we even knew what
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a movie universe was, there were really memorable movies that
I believe are so much better than Superman twenty twenty five.
Even though it's really all I can think about right now,
I get on TikTok and I can just watch anybody
break down the movie, people talking about their favorite moments,
and I think this movie has just brought a lot
of hope for people. And you start thinking about all
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the things going on in the world where people struggling,
people just trying to put food on the table, and
all that kind of goes away when you go watch
a movie like Superman and you can see people just
being united, at least most people, not the people ripping
me for loving this movie and feeling like James Gunn
has done a disservice to Superman. But the people who
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just went and found hope in this movie, and we've
all just kind of come together around this character, and
I think that is what we've needed. That is what
a superhero does in the fictional movie world, but also
what they can do in the real world by us
watching these movies. So this movie was inspiring to me,
so I feel really good about it. At five. I
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also think that maybe a sequel could rank higher once
we have more moving parts here of people who can
appear in a Superman movie. I feel like we could
get another top five entry that's only to come. So
at number five, I have Superman from twenty twenty five.
At number four, I have the OG nineteen eighty nine's Batman.
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And at the time this movie was darker because Batman
up until nineteen eighty nine had this campier feel to
him with the TV show and the Boom Pals and
Adam West dancing, and it was Tim Burton who put
his dark, quirky style on it. And to think that
at that time this was seen as the dark Batman,
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like this is gritty, this is real life, And looking
back on it now, it does feel a little bit
more fantasy, and the character has only gotten darker and
darker with every decade of us wanting more blood and
head bashing. Could they ever get too dark? That's the question.
But at number four I have the Og Michael Keaton,
who I believe is the best overall Batman, being that
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both of his parts are up there with a high
rating number of him as Bruce Wayne and also hit
as Batman, fantastic suit, fantastic batmobile, great villain with the Joker.
At number four, I have Batman from nineteen eighty nine
getting into the top three. Now at number three, I
have Joker from twenty nineteen. This movie was so bold,
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and this came out and there were headlines about this
movie of how dark it was. And again we keep
going darker and darker. This is almost as dark as
you can go, because really, at its core, Todd Phillips
didn't create a comic book movie. He made a movie
much like Taxi Driver, much like King of Comedy. Basically
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was inspired by those two movies and made a movie
about a guy just descending into madness, inciting a riot,
being a wanted criminal, doing heinous things, having no remorse
for any of it. And he did it with some
clown makeup to fit into this universe, because really, any
connection that this has to Batman as a whole, you
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could argue that all that is in his head and
it really has no connection to Gotham or to anything.
And I think that is why I enjoyed this movie
so much, is because it just felt like a character study.
And this really just haunting villain origin story, the best
we've ever had. It really addressed mental illness, class division, identity,
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just struggling to feel like you belong, also struggling with
a medical condition. And I know Martin Scorsese has come
out and said that he hates superhero movies. He doesn't
consider them to be cinema, but this was the most
Scorsese type movie you could get. If Scorsese was to
make a superhero movie, this is the type he would make.
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But think about what a DC version of Goodfellas would be.
That would be a great movie, but it would also
be three and a half hours long and cost two
hundred and fifty million dollars, because that's the only type
of movie that Scorsese can do. But at number three,
I have Joker from twenty nineteen at number two. I
have Batman Returns from nineteen ninety two, another entry from
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Tim Burton in the top five. This was my Batman
movie of my childhood, and this was really where Tim
Burton leaned more into making a Batman movie that was him,
because I think with the first one he was just
trying to make a movie for the studio, give a
little bit of his style, but really just make them happy.
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If that was proven to be successful, he could go
on to make the movie he really wanted to make.
It was much more gothic and weird. I think to
a point they didn't even like that part of it
because with the first one it was such a big
hit that they were able to sell so many Batman
toys and merchandise to kids, and then you have this
one that at times has more adult themes. I mean,
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I felt ways about Catwoman that I probably should not
have felt as a kid, had this awakening when watching
Michelle Pfeiffer, and they had a hard time marketing this movie.
I believe they struggle even getting the toys in the
happy meals once the movie came out that parents started revolting.
But looking back on it now, man how punk rock
was this movie. Danny DeVito is Penguin. It had some real,
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just tragic moments in it, but also that dark comic
book flair. This movie defined my childhood, submited my love
for Batman, who is one of my top five superheroes
of all time. At number two, I have Batman Returns
from nineteen ninety two, but at number one, again, DC
is so Superman and Batman heavy. It goes to the
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Dark Knight. It's the gold standard. I probably talk way
too much about this movie because not only do I
believe it is the best DC movie of all time,
it is one of my top five movies of all time.
And I think now in twenty twenty five, I may
have to readdress my top ten movie list of all
time only because so many great things have come out
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in the last two to three years. I feel like
some of those fives I've given out to work their
way up into that top five. But it's because not
only is this just a great DC movie, not only
is it just a great superhero movie, It's just a
great movie period. No matter what. You can't watch this
movie and say that's a bad movie, that's not good.
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You could say it's not for me, which is fine.
Not everybody likes comic book movies. Not everybody buys into
the idea, like some millionaire just dresses up like a
bad guy and goes around fighting crime, Like how does
that even work? He doesn't really have superpowers? Like that
is fine if it's just not for you. But you
cannot watch The Dark Knight and say that is a
bad movie. And I'll die on that hill. All right,
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Let's get to now what I believe to be the
top five worst DC movies of all time and number
five twenty sixteen's Suicide Squad. I wasn't even that excited
going into this movie, and I think it's because this
was the first time we saw somebody played the Joker
that wasn't Heath Ledger. And what Jared Leto did with
the Joker and the tattoos and the ha ha has
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and the green hair, tried to make them like a
punk rocker, tried to make them so weird, really leaned
into that reveal being so significant, and it just wasn't.
It was just so bad. It was frustrating. It was
a production nightmare has one of the worst line deliveries
of all time. Like I love when characters say the
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title of a movie in a movie, but Will Smith
saying what are we some kind of suicide squad? That's
just terrible writing overall, just a bad movie. At number four,
I have Aquaman in the Lost Kingdom from twenty twenty three.
I found it surprising that the first Aquaman was as
successful as it was internationally. He did really well. I
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just never really got the Aquaman character, and I think
when you do look at DC and see some of
these characters that have been around for so long, since
since the forties, since the fifties, Aquaman just seems so
old school. But I think Jason Momoa does bring a
modernist to the character. And even though he does the
character really well, I could see them recasting Aquaman if
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they ever decide to use them again. But I feel
like after this movie they are done with it. It
still performed decently, but the writing in Aquaman and the
Lost Kingdom was so bad. The acting was bad, the
story was terrible, the CGI was atrocious. I feel like
a lot of these actors just did it for the payday.
There was no saving grace from this movie. There was
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never a moment that it shined. All the action was terrible.
The only good thing I can say about it is
the underwater stuff was still unique to it, and aside
from that, that was it. This movie sank. It was bad.
Don't go revisit it. If you never saw it, don't
watch it. Just go watch Aquaman one at number three,
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I have twenty eleven's The Green Lantern. If you talk
about or CGI, this one probably has the worst CGI.
If you look at the suit transformations, like just those
scenes alone, because that's the only thing worthy of going
back and watching. Is bad. CG all around looks terrible.
I would say at the time, Ryan Reynolds really wasn't
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ready for this. Even though he was an established actor,
he wasn't as good as he needed to be to
make a better movie out of the script, to make
a better movie out of all the technology failures that
this movie was riddled with. It was totally confusing. Ryan
Reynolds now just famously makes fun of the film. It
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is just on that level of bad movie that the
only good thing you can say about it is it's
fun to make fun of it. Wasted this character for
a very long time up until now, and I feel
like for a lot of people, they're just like, I
don't care about the Green Lantern anymore, maybe until now
when James Gunn created a different version of the character
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and fixed it, and Ryan Reynolds went on to be
all right at least in the movies personal life. Maybe
not at number two. I have Joker, fully, I do
from last year. I think it's because Todd Phillips hated
what happened with Joker won as far as the people
who resonated with it. I think he feels like he
created a monster. Maybe he didn't like some of those
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stories that came out, some of the controversy it did
created that he decided to have a total departure from
that and really take the wind out of the sales
for this character. Because that is exactly what he did.
And why this movie is not number one is because
I do believe still that he made the movie he
wanted to make. Whenever it was announced that it was
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going to be a musical, I was like, let's hear
him out, guys. He has to have a reason to
do this. And then all the details that came out
of it just kept getting worse and worse. Not only
is it a musical, it's a joke box musical. It
just didn't even feel like the character anymore. Of the
story was just so felt like a really bad high
school play. There were some good uses of cinematography that
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had me gripping to that trailer and just wanting to
find something good in it, but overall the movie just
was not good, downright bad, downright cringey. At times, I've
never wanted to leave a movie more that I ended
up not leaving. But again, don't even watch this movie
on streaming if you haven't yet. It will make you
want to vomit just a little bit. But that's at
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number two, because that number one not only one of
the worst DC movies of all time or superhero movies,
just one of the worst movies of all time. Catwoman
from two thousand and four, And to think that there
were plans to make a Catwoman movie after Batman returns
with Michelle Pfeiffer, even that last scene they put in
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the movie where you see her head turn with the
moon really big and bright, showing you that, oh, maybe
they're gonna bring this character back, there was discussions of
making a Catwoman movie then obviously never saw the light
of day. To think we went from that to getting
halle Berry playing basketball the movie. This destroyed her reputation
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at the time, even though again she's fine. The only
good thing to come out of this movie is that
Hallie Berry was accepting of how bad it was. She
is one of the only actors on her level who
actually have accepted a Razzie, which I think now her
and Dakota Johnson have bonded over that honor of them
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both being in superhero movies and winning Razzies for it.
And I remember that I got this movie on an
illegally burned DVD from a flea market in Mexico, and
I thought they ripped me off. I was like, they
gave me a burn dvdal the wrong movie. They probably
filmed this thing in their backyard. Lo and behold, it
was actually the real movie. So I was like, maybe
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because I'm watching this in Spanish that it's so bad. No,
this movie is just really that bad. At number one,
I have Catwoman to close up this episode, I have
my top five disappointments, and I don't consider these to
be bad. I was just overall dis pointed because I
was actually excited about these. At number five, I have
Wonder Woman nineteen eighty four because one was so good.
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This one just didn't pack that same punch. And again,
this was when HBO Max was putting out movies. This
one didn't even come out in theaters or maybe in
very few select theaters because it was late twenty twenty.
So the only good thing I can say about it
was that Kelsey and I watched it at home and
it was like, oh, just nice to get a new
movie in twenty twenty. But that's at number five. At
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number four, it was Justice League from twenty seventeen. That
movie just felt rushed. It was fine, we got Wonder
Woman in there. The Flash felt cool at that time.
In twenty seventeen. The Zack Snyder cut is still better.
But even that, I just kind of lose grasp on
what that project exactly was going or should have been.
It just felt like they were trying to compete with
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the Avengers and rushed with making a Justice League movie.
So hopefully, in James Gunn's world, we're still I would
say a decade away from that, because we have a
lot of characters we need to build up before that.
At number three, Batman Versus Superman Gone of Justice in
twenty sixteen, This was the first time on the big
screen we were getting Batman and Superman in the same film.
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But this movie was so boring, so boring. I had
to fight to stay awake through this movie. And again,
this was DC just trying to do what Marvel was
doing with Civil War having Captain America fight Iron Man.
They're like, we gotta make our two biggest characters fight
each other. How do you put Batman in Superman in
the same movie and have it be this boring by
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including these unnecessary details about Bruce Wayne and the whole
thing just looking like a mess. To waste what I
would say is one of the better Batman suits, Like
I love chunky Batman, like big bulky, like oversized, I
love big Batman with the fat logo. To completely waste that.
Henry Cavill has just been misused. Man of Steel was good,
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but in every other project he was just like, man,
why are they doing this to you? Man? Why he's
been ripped off so much in movies? Speaking of Henry
Cavill getting ripped off at number two, I have Black
Adhaim I was so high going into this movie, such
a cool looking character. I was still a huge fan
of the Rock and how much he was promoting this
movie on Instagram, just making it look cool. But the
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Rock sunk like a boulder. The rock in this movie
was acting like a rock, Like that's his range. He
can act like a rock, he can act like a boulder,
sometimes act like a pebble. But his character was just
so one dimensional, had no depth to him. And I
feel like you wrote in this contract that he wanted
to look cool at all times. He didn't want to
struggle here, and the movie suffered for it. And they
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brought back Henry Cavell for this movie and wasted him.
And now not even part of DC anymore. He left
his job on the Witcher. Yeah, he lost his He
lost his job because of the Rock. The movie was
so disappointing, But at number one. The biggest disappointment in
DC was The Flash in twenty twenty three. Like I
was saying earlier, Michael Keaton is the best Batman. They
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brought back the best Batman and they wasted in. This
movie had me hype from the trailer, like Batman saying
the famous line, Let's get nuts. And this movie just
made no sense. They just threw in random cameos because
Marvel again was having so much success with the Multiverse,
they thought, let's do that too. Marvel just set all
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these records with no Way Home. Let's have row no
Way Home. The biggest disappointment based on how hiphe I
was going into it up until I sat my butt
in that theater. This is movie I genuinely thought was
going to be good. I had no reason to hate it,
but I did. At Number one is the flash come back.
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I'll get my spoiler free movie review of I Know
What You Did Last Summer. Let's get into it now,
a spoiler free movie of I Know What You Did
Last Summer. This movie is both a sequel and a
reboot to the original one from nineteen ninety seven. I
really think the franchise that did this best was Stream
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in twenty twenty two. They're the ones who kind of
coin that term of requel where they continue the storyline
from the original, but then bring in a whole new
cast of characters. And let me say, even before I
watched this movie, I thought, how are they even going
to remotely make this movie make sense? Given that just
by watching the trailer you know that the exact same
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thing happens to this new group of kids that happened
to them in the original What are the odds? Because
that's what this movie is also about. Five friends cause
a car accident, they make a pack to cover it up.
Next summer rolls around, they get a handwritten note I
know which it did last summer, and then they have
to bring in the help of some of the original
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cast members from the movie from nineteen ninety seven, Freddie
Prinze Junior and Jennifer love Hewitt. But you have a
bunch of new fresh blood in this one. So just
going into it, I thought, how are they going to
make this happen again? How are they going to make
it make sense? Because it's a whole lot different than
when Scream does it, Because Scream, that person can be anybody.
But I gave them the benefit of the doubt. I
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went into this movie with a pretty open mind, knowing
it wasn't going to be anything super incomplex. But I
think what I liked about Scream and the way they
did it is they made it a little bit more
sinister in those ghost Face was a little bit more menacing.
They aged the mask a little bit. Going into that,
I felt like I was going to watch a little
bit more of a brutal slasher than the ones that
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were so famous in the late nineties and early two thousands.
But what I got, and I know what you did
last summer, it just wasn't it. And I think it's
because of the acting. I know that horror movies like
this slashers are always infuriating because you're like, why are
you doing this? Why are you so dumb? But if
you didn't have dumb characters in a slasher movie like this,
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nothing would happen. They wouldn't wonder off by themselves, they
wouldn't go hang out with sketchy people. So I understood that.
But it wasn't just the dumb things they did in
regards to what got them killed and what got some
of these characters killed. It was just overall of their
interactions and the dialogue just felt so watered down. The
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only performances I really like were Freddie Prince Junior and
Jennifer love Hewitt, because I think they were the best actors.
Maybe it's because they had more experience with the franchise,
they knew how to play it a little bit more.
By the way, they both look fantastic when they were
on screen. I was invested in. I would have just
watched them two together, And I get you need teenagers,
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or in this case, they have them a little bit older.
They're in college. You need younger people to make a
story like this work. But I just would have watched
them to get back together and have to deal with
this killer again, maybe something more like a Halloween, like
how Jamie Lee Curtis keeps returning. I would have been
more invested in that. Because everybody in the cast was
so insufferable that I wasn't rooting for them to live.
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I wanted everybody to die. Like whenever The Fishermen was
on screen, I was like, take them all out because
I cannot stand any one of these people. And I
even think it's the way they are trying to keep
this secret that had so much more weight to it
in the original, like their initial pack, it felt a
little bit more realistic. In this movie. Nothing made sense,
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there were no consequences, nobody was questioning anything. The adults
in this movie were also just as insufferable, So it's
not just the younger cast, it's everybody in Southport has
zero brain cells. The kills themselves were the only things
I felt improved from the original one, although in this
case it's really hard to take the killer seriously because
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in the first movie you still believe that it's just
a regular person, but in this one, the killer almost
has supernatural abilities. They kind of have a Michael Meyer's
essence to them, where they're attacking one minute and then
the next minute they run away and they're gone, So
it's harder to believe that there's actually a person behind
this and not somebody supernatural. That part I didn't like,
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because it almost felt like the person underneath it was
just the shape. It felt just more generic horror movie
that that didn't quite work for me. I even rewatched
the original movie going into this one, just because I
wanted to remember all the lore, and I was reminded
of how much I rooted for Julie, how much I
rooted for Rey, just how much chemistry all those actors
had in that original, which was what made that movie significant,
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which is what made that movie get a sequel. This one.
I never want to see any of these people ever again.
And I think Madeline Klein is a good actor. I
enjoy her in Outer Banks, but this role just wasn't it.
I think just the way they decided to write her
character just didn't really make you care about her. Her
actions did not make sense because one thing happened and
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the next moment she forgets about it. Her character just
didn't learn anything, and you're like, come on, just get
with it. And just the interactions between her and everybody
else was so forced. And they also made it a
point to just give you all this information at the
very beginning, to tell you all the dynamics between everybody,
to not show you their backstories, but deliberately tell you
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everybody's backstories and everybody's relationship when it goes from when
the accident first happens to then we jump forward a
year after, just like it did in the original movie.
They're just telling you all this information to try to
get the story going, to try to get to the killing.
It just really felt like they were juicing an onion
by the end of the movie. And even though I
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don't have a whole lot of good things to say
about this movie, for some reason, it was still entertaining.
For some reason, I still needed to sit there in
that theater till the very end to find out how
this thing was going to wrap up, to find out
who was going to be behind it in the end
and to find out whether or not it was actually
worth my time. Just barely was this movie worth my time?
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I don't want to see them continue on which whenever
I saw Scream in twenty twenty two, I was already
for the next one after that one, because I started
to feel like, Okay, they did a good job at
rebooting this and also making a sequel, And I just
think that I Know What You Did last Summer fan
base just isn't quite as strong as anything else in
the horror genre. When you want to start pulling out
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movies that people feel nostalgic for, I don't think there's
that much nostalgia here because the killer themselves is not
that interesting. The look of the character is not that interesting.
I can't really buy into the hook as being one
of the best horror weapons of all time. This suit
itself just isn't that memorable when you're starting to put
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people up there like Jason Vorhees, Michael Myers, Chucky, like
all those great people from Slashers. Not even the best
I Know What You Did last Summer movie comes close
to one of the worst movies from those franchises. And
I think that is saying a lot, because there are
some bad Halloween movies, there are some bad Friday the
Thirteenth movies. It just felt like they were really justing
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on that nostalgia. They even make a point in the
movie to call out nostalgia, and I love nostalgia. Look
at this room around me right now. I live in nostalgia.
Nostalgia will probably at some point in my life be
the death of me. But it just didn't really bring
back any feelings from when I watched the original. They
tried to make all of Madeline Klein's fashion statements as
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impactful as Sarah Michelle Geller's fashion statements. They tried with
the cool cars, they tried with the romantic scenes. They
tried with the blood, they tried with the guts, they
tried with the action, but they did not capture the
original energy of nineteen ninety seven's I Know What You
Did Last Summer. The only thing that even made me
want to go see this movie was the fact that
Jennifer Love Hewitt was in it, and I'm glad she
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was because if she wasn't, this movie would have been
a total snooze fest for I Know What You Did
Last Summer twenty twenty five. I give it two out
of five hooks. It's time to head down to movie
Mike Trailer, Paul. When the trailer for Weapons first came out,
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it had my curiosity, But now that I've seen the
second trailer and really dove into it, now it has
my attention. This movie looks like it could be pretty good.
It's from the same director who did Barbarian, that Kreger,
which if you haven't seen Barbarian, I would say it
is one of the most dynamic horror movies of the
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last three years. Because it came out in twenty twenty two,
is available on Netflix now, and it was a movie
that a bunch of people told me, you gotta see Barbarian,
you gotta see Barbarian, and I watched it. I thought
it was gonna be a movie I would completely love
because I love that style of horror movie. It's not
exactly what I was expecting, not your traditional horror movie,
but it has some great visuals, has a lot of
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social commentary inside of it, so it's almost a horror
movie disguising itself just a little bit, which I kind
of think is going to be the case here with weapons.
I think that is Zach Craiger style. There's a lot
of interesting history with this movie. Another really famous director
wanted the rights this movie, lost out on it and
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fired his staff because of it. But the movie stars
Josh Brolin, who I love, and we'll get into how
he was kind of broke for a vast majority of
his career. A really famous movie of his came out
while he was broke. Julia Garner, who you might remember
from Ozark. You also have Olden ahren Reich, who you
might remember from the Hans Solo movie. He was also
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just in Ironheart, which I've been hesitant to say that
I was a big fan of Ironheart. Well, maybe not
a big fan, but it was a lot better than
I was expecting, mainly because I haven't been that into
all the Marvel Disney plus shows all those people in
this movie. Even though the trailer says this is based
on a true story, it's not based on a true story,
but essentially, a bunch of kids leave their homes in
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the middle of the night, nobody forces them, they go
somewhere they can't find them, and then all the parents
in the town are riled up because they all have
a connection to one teacher's classroom, who is Julia Gardner's classroom,
and they want answers. So before I get into more
about weapons, here's just a little bit of the trailer.
We're talking about seventeen kids and one classroom. I want
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to know what happened in that classroom. This is a
true story that happened right here in my tongue. A
lot of people die in a lot of really weird
ways in the story, but you're not going to find
it in the newsroom. Those kids walked out of those homes.
No one pulled them out. I'm want divorced them. What
do you see that? I don't show me where did
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you go? There's something very very wrong going on. So
this movie, seventeen kids disappear, but it appears that eighteen
kids were in the class total. So maybe it is
that one child who did not dissiper who we're hearing
from in this trailer. The interesting thing about the way
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they run out of their homes a couple of things.
It looks like they all go into the same direction
because we see Josh Brolin pull up a map. He's
pulling up all this ring cam footage trying to see
where they all went, and there's a big red line
in his map that all goes in the same direction.
They also all run in the same style. If you
were going to have a running start to try and
fly with your arms kind of out, kind of like
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when you would play Super Mario Land or Super Mario World,
and he would start running like he was about to
take off with this cape, just with his arms kind
of angled by his side, almost like you're about to
fly away like Superman. That is how they are running.
So they're not running guarded in any way. They're not
protecting themselves. They don't really seem to have control of
their body. And you have to remember the title of
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this movie is weapons, So to me, it feels like
some force is turning these kids into weapons in some way,
because what we see later in the trailer is some
of the adults starting to harm themselves. We see two
adults standing at the edge of a hallway, which that
has me just confused that have everything because you see
one kid walking down this hallway towards them and there's
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almost this line of salt in between them. But the
two adults are standing at the edge of the hallway
and they look like they could be dead. They're just
standing there with like blood on their face, and you
get that weird sound effect as soon as the kid
places his foot over that line of sand. That is
the part I don't get, because if these kids are
used as weapons, is that what they are doing or
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are they turning the adults into weapons once the kids
are gone, Because we also see some other members of
the community running through the streets in complete daylight with
a bloody face. We see another older gentleman stab himself
in the face. So a lot of creepy things are
going on here. As the voiceover said from the kid,
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a lot of people die in this story in really
unusual ways. It also kind of reminds me of the
Power Readers movie whenever Ivan News ooses all of the
parents and has mind control over them and they all
essentially become his minions and they have no control over
their body and they're just mindless zombies doing whatever he
wants them to do. Could we have that type of situation?
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There are a lot of little subtexts in the classroom.
If you look at some of the things written on
the wall, it looks like they were being taught a
lesson about parasites, so it did something specifically infect all
of these kids inside of this classroom. If you look
at the time of day, which I am always fascinated
with any horror movie that shows a clock. Going back
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to me watching movies like The Conjuring or The Exorcism
of Emily Rose, you learn about things like the devil hour,
that there are certain times of the day where these
evil spirits come out, where bad things happen. In the Conjuring,
at a certain time of day, all the clock stop,
or not day, but overnight, all the clock stop, and
then they smell this rantid meat. In this trailer, you
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see the clock at two seventeen, which is a very
specific time to put into a trailer, So there has
to be some roote in that. I always pay attention
to the Diamond Day because for some reason, demons till time.
Maybe a devil has a rolex or something. I really
like Josh Brolin in a role like this. He is
a fantastic actor, most famously probably Thanos. That was his
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biggest payday for me, my favorite movie of his, even
though I love Himsstanos. It has to be No Country
for old men. The wild thing about Josh Brolin. I
mean he got his acting star back in the eighties.
He was in the Goonies in nineteen eighty five. I
feel like everybody knows that. But because he's had such
a long career, you forget that. He broke out in
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the late eighties, had success in the nineties and two thousands,
obviously with being in No Country for Old Men, but
probably has made a majority of his money from playing
Thanos in the MCU. But he said that he spent
twenty two years of his life just trying to work,
and whenever No Country for Old Men came out, he
was broke. He only made thirty thousand dollars for his
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time on No Country for Old Men, And even though
that movie went on to win Best Pictures, sometimes you
don't make a lot of money off of movies like that.
Because after No Country for Old Men, he thought he
was broke. He thought he was done. He just had
all this success and thought, man, I'm gonna have to
go back and just find a normal job. He was
in a panic in his life, and then he received
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a call from his lawyer who said, you got some
back end pay from American gangster. And he's like, all right,
maybe this will get me rented for another month. And
he got a number from his lawyer which he thought
was sixty thousand dollars, which he thought, Okay, that's a
pretty good payday. And it turns out he missed the
zero and he actually got six hundred thousand dollars in
back end pay, and that number brought him to tears.
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He thought, man, I could live the rest of my
life off of six hundred thousand dollars. But then whenever
he played Danos an Infinity War, he made eight million
dollars for that role. There's no official number on what
he ended up making for endgames. Some say he probably
made another eight million. I feel like some people probably
got paid the exact same because they filmed those two
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movies at the same time. So I was like, all right,
you're gonna spend all this time here you get eight million,
and since we're all just kind of filming it all
together at once, we're gonna pay you kind of the
same thing. I really hope he had some kind of
deal where he got some money off that back end,
which I really feel the people who made the most
on that movie, well, number one is easily Robert Downey Junior,
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who made millions and millions off of playing Tony Stark.
But Van also is such a big part of that world.
You can't imagine how he wouldn't make at least something
closer to Robert Downey Junior. But we even see that
now with David Cornsweat and Nicholas Holt making vastly different
salaries for Superman. Because Josh Brolin is still listed with
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having a net worth of about twenty five million dollars,
we were talking last week about movie maths and actors
not making as much as you think. I would put
Josh Brolin in the upper one hundred million range, but
Internet has unlisted at twenty five million. But that's not
always completely accurate. The other lore of this movie is
apparently Jordan Peel was involved in the bidding war for
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the script to Weapons. He wanted this movie so bad
because Zach Gregor was already attached to it. Barbarian was
already a hit. So this is what happens. A director
delivers a hit and then everybody wants a piece of
their next movie. So Jordan Peele's production company was trying
to win the bidding war, but it ended up going
to Newline for thirty eight million dollars, which New Line
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Cinema is a subsidiary of Warner Brothers, who is putting
out this movie. Now. They won the Bidding War. They
have the movie coming out on August eighth, and allegedly
Jordan Peele fired his management after losing that Bidding War,
and I believe Jordan Peele at the time, him and
Zach Gregor had the same management, So maybe that was
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just a whole awful situation. But that's how competitive Hollywood gets.
And that also leads me to believe that this is
a really great story and it has a really great
second and third act that we're not seeing just in
this trailer. Because if it's something that Jordan Peele wanted
this badly, it has to be good. So, like I said,
it added my curiosity, but now it has my attention.
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I mean even just the sound design, like this is
kind of what got me in the trailer, that really
made me feel it, that freaked me out a little bit.
I love it when trailers use this kind of sound.
Oh that got me. But again, Weapons is coming out
next month on August eighth, And that was.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
This week's edition of Movie Line tramor bar and that
is gonna do it for another episode here of the podcast,
But before I go, I gotta get my listeners shout
out of the week, and I promise I'm not always
trying to pick the negative responses and dms and messages.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
But I've been getting them a lot more frequently lately,
and I came to understand that for Jurassic when I
don't like a movie, I get a lot of pushback
of people say, how'd you not like this movie? A
lot of fanboys, die hard fans will hit me up
and call me stupid things, tell me to never review again,
which I shared with you last week. But this past review,
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when I talked about Superman, I had people hitting on
me because of how much I love that movie. So again,
I'm not trying to highlight all the haters here, but
this is just what's been coming in more frequently. If
you want to combat this a little bit, I would
appreciate it if you maybe sent me a more positive
message or just tag me in your Instagram story listening
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to that week's episode at Mike Distro on Instagram. I'll
repost that and make you next week's listener. Shot out
of the week just so it doesn't become the hater line.
But this week's listener shout out of the Week, aka
the hater shoutout of the Week, is to Joseph Scott,
who sent me this on X and said, wait, movie, Mike,
like something mediocre, You don't say Superman was a two?
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It best? Same James Gunnfield. Every single thing he makes
Superman was not a too at best, at worst, at worst,
even at worst, even if you have no soul and
don't like anything fun at worst, that movie could be
was a three because it's in no way mid a
two point five, no way less than mid. It is
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even if you're the biggest Superman hater, the biggest hater
of James gunn At minimum, that movie is a three
unless you're just really finding things to hate about movies,
or you have some completely different agenda going into it
and you wanted to hate it. I just can't find
what people hate about this movie, and most times I can,
and most times I can really have a grasp on
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my fanboy noess, But I wasn't even a fan of
Superman going into this. I would have rated it lower
if it truly made me feel that way. So I
have no reason to overhype it, which I do get that.
It is hard when there is so much hype for
a movie and people go see it opening weekend and
it has really high rotten Tomato scores, everybody talking about
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it at buzzing about it, and I think, what we're
gonna see now more so going into this week and
the next week is all the people who went to
see it because of the buzz. No matter what, when
something is overhyped, you're gonna have those people go see
it and be underwhelmed. This is what everybody was hype about,
and I hate that. But I know in order to
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get that, you have to have something so great like Superman,
that is inspiring people, that is fun. I have seen
a lot of what Joseph here on X is calling
out people saying that all of James Gunn's movies have
the same formula and they're all the same movie that
is terrific. Is much like y'aw doing all these things,
which that was the only thing I kind of looked
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back at a little bit more after watching it, after
hearing more about what other people had to say. But
if you have a formula that works in storytelling, of
course you're gonna go back to it if it makes
a great movie, and at this point in his career,
that's how you tell superhero stories from him. I don't
think you can hate it for that. I don't think
he needs to reinvent that just yet. But I guess
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if you didn't like his trademarks, I could see what
you think. This is a lot more of the same.
But again, I still think even if you hate all
those aspects, a minimum of three. But I appreciate the feedback, Joseph.
I know not all people like this movie. I'd like
to open myself to everybody's opinions. But again, if you
want me to not bring another hater next week, send me.
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It doesn't even have to be positive, just send me
a different opinion. Thank you for listening, Thank you for
being subscribed. Hope you have a great rest of your week,
and until next time, go out and watch good movies
and I will talk to you later.