December 15, 2025 • 50 mins
Mike has been fascinated with The Wizard of Oz his entire life because of the traumatic experience the cast and crew suffered in the making of the 1939 movie. He shares the things you might not know about the classic film from people being burned, poisoned, forced to smoke cigarettes, slapped in the face and more terrible things. And how the movie was actually a failure when it debuted in theaters but was saved almost 20 years later and became the classic we know it to be today. In the Movie Review, Mike talks about Five Nights at Freddy’s 2 starring Josh Hutcherson. It picks up one year has passed since the supernatural nightmare at Freddy Fazbear's Pizza. Former security guard Mike has kept the truth from his 11-year-old sister, Abby, concerning the fate of her animatronic friends. Mike crashes out over how bad he thought it was, why it was his worst theater experience of the year and the one redeeming quality of the franchise. In the Trailer Park, Mike blind reacts to Supergirl starring Milly Alcock and coming out on June 26, 2026. It’s about Superman’s 23-year old cousin who has a drinking problem and will serve as the 2nd film in the DC Universe. When an unexpected and ruthless adversary strikes too close to home, Kara Zor-El, aka Supergirl, reluctantly joins forces with an unlikely companion on an epic, interstellar journey of vengeance and justice. Mike talks about what he thinks about the suit, her heat vision and what might be the fate of her dog, Krypto.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I
am your host Movie Mike. Today we're diving into one
of my favorite movie topics of all time, the dark
truth about the Wizard of Oz. All the crazy things
that happened behind the scenes and the blood, the sweat,
the tears, the people being burned alive that went into
the making of this classic movie. In the movie review,
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we'll be talking about Five Nights at Freddy's. I hated
the original, how did I feel about the sequel? In
the trailer park, I will be blind reacting to the
new Supergirl trailer it's coming out next year, and we'll
dive into what is going on with the DC universe
now that Netflix has bought Warner Brothers. Thank you for
being here, Thank you for being subscribed. Shout out to
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the Monday Morning Movie crew. And now let's talk movies
from the Nashville Podcast Network. This is movie Mike's Movie Podcast.
One of my favorite movie topics to talk about of
all time is the dark truth behind the Wizard of Oz.
I have been infatuated with this movie since I was
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a kid. Gave me nightmares the first time I watched it.
I always found the ten Man to be really creepy.
The scarecrow was creepy as well. And when you look
into the history of this movie, so many crazy things
happened on this set that if I could go back
in history to any time period and experience one thing,
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I would want to go back to the making of
The Wizard of Oz and see how many of these
things were actually true and how many of them were
just legend. Because when you hear about the things the actors,
the extras, all the dogs involved in this movie had
to go through to get this film made, it is wild.
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Also the fact that this movie is almost one hundred
years old now, and when The Wizard of Oz first
opened in theaters it was a flop. It actually lost
one point one million dollars in its initial run. But
when you look at how famous this movie is now,
argue I would say the most famous movie of all time,
being that the most people have seen it in some
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form or fashion now. And even if you just make
a reference a movie quote, for the most part, everybody
knows exactly what you are talking about. And a movie
like this just could not happen today. But whenever it
first came out in theaters, did not do well. There
was actually another Tree Garland movie that came out that
same year that performed better. But now flash forward to
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twenty twenty five. People are paying between one hundred and
twenty to upwards a four hundred dollars to go see
this and now makes over two million dollars a day
when it is shown at the Sphere in Vegas. And
I am one of those people. I would love to
see it in Vegas on that big screen. How they
expand all the scenes, the things that fly out at
you while you're watching it. You get the fog, you
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get the fire effects, the falling leaves, the falling butterflies,
They throw apples at you, monkey props. That would be amazing.
And the that it did become famous is because, like
I was mentioning, it did not do well at the
box office. The movie cost two point eight million dollars
to make, which was the most expensive movie that MGM
had ever made at the time, but it lost one
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point one million dollars at the box office. But it
was all due to the movie being shown on TV.
The Wizard of Oz had its first broadcast on CBS
in nineteen fifty six, and the television showings were so
successful that it actually turned a profit for the studio,
and then its profitability was cemented after it was re
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released ten years later in nineteen forty five and saw
even more success whenever it was finally released on home
video when that became a thing. Let's talk about our
cast of characters in this episode and in the movie.
Judy Garland played Dorothy Gale, of course, the heart and
soul of the entire movie. Ray Bolger played the scarecrow
and hunk back in Kansas. Which I know this sounds stupid,
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but as a kid, I didn't put it together that
all the people in Dorothy's life at the farm in
Kansas were all the people that she encountered in The
Wizard of Oz. Again, I watched this movie when I
was really young. For the first time. It freaked me out.
I didn't fully get that. But Ray Bulger was the Scarecrow.
He was also hug Jack Hayley was the tin man,
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and Hickory back in Kansas. Bert Laar was a cowardly lion,
and Zeke back in Kansas. You have Margaret Hamilton as
the wicked Witch of the West and also Misses Gulch
and Frank Morgan plays the Wizard and Professor Marvel, a
couple of other people in the movie as well, and
Terry the Dog played Toto. The movie was based on
the book by L. Frank Baum, published a nineteen hundred
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called The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, which if you hear
that name and think that sounds really familiar. L. Frank
Baum was the inspiration behind the name Alphaba that we
see later in Wicked, which is also kind of the
catalyst of why I become so infatuated again with this movie,
went back and rewatched it on HBO Max. But that
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is the connection between the original writer of The Wizard
of Oz and Wicked and the movie we all know.
Wasn't the first ever adaptation of the book. They came
out with the movie in nineteen ten. It was the
early silent film. They came out with a bunch of
different versions. Actually, there was also The Land of Oz
in nineteen ten, Dorothy and the Scarecrow in nineteen ten,
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The Patchwork Girl of Oz in nineteen fourteen, and another
silent film released in nineteen twenty five, also called The
Wizard of Oz. And there are some differences between the
book and the movie In the book, Oz is a
real place, but in the movie it is a dream
and revealed to all be fake. And in the book
the slippers are actually silver, but they changed them to
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ruby in the movie because they really wanted to emphasize
the use of technic color in The Wizard of Oz,
which I think some people think that The Wizard of
Oz was the first ever movie to use technicolor, or
maybe even the first ever movie in color, because it
as a real big part of the movie whenever it
goes from black and white, even though it's not really
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in black and white, it's a Cefia tone, which is
it's like a rich, warm, reddish brown, but it's made
to look really old, almost like if it's on a
pirate map or something. But the reason they changed the
slippers from silver to red is because they wanted to
really utilize the color in the movie. And how they
actually film that scene is everything you see in Kansas.
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In that scene specifically, you see a fake set that
is that cfia color, so they actually painted it that color,
so when they filmed it, it looks like it's lacking
all color. And in that scene you actually see a
stunt double for Judy Garland, and you just see the
back of her. She opens the door steps away, and
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the real Dorothy played by Judy Garland, walks through, and
as she opens the door, you see the colorful world
of Oz inside there. So that was all done in
one shot, no special effects, no green screen. I think
that is why I'm so infatuated with the making of
this movie, because it is a technical triumph seeing all
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these things and how they were actually made without the
use of any commuter's way back in nineteen thirty nine,
another one of those things that kind of blew my
mind when I first found out about it, I was like,
how did they create this tornado? So they actually built
this contraption with like this big long tube and they
made it spin around and they blew a lot of
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things around it, and they just filmed that scene. So
it's essentially a giant thirty five foot cloth cone wrapped
in chicken wire, suspended from this big crane, and they
attached it to a moving car to give it that
spinning effect, and then they filmed like a bunch of
debris and stuff spinning around, and they just filmed that scene,
just the tornado, and then they put Judy Garland in
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front of it and just blasted that footage on a
big screen using another projector, so the background is what
you see in the movie that was already all filmed.
They just have that projected and then they have Judy
Garland on an actual set with the wind still blowing
to add that effect. So if you go back and
rewatch it, it's a little bit easier to understand how
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they did that because they don't have green screens. There
was actually something being projected behind her, and then when
you add in all the other little effects, it makes
it look like she's actually running from a tornado, but
she's really just in front of some projected footage. That
is an awesome achievement in filmmaking, which a lot of
the stuff from the movie is actually copywritten, and even
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though the original story of The Wizard of Oz is
now public domain, the Ruby Red Slippers are copywritten. The
Wicked Witch's appearance are also copywritten and owned by MGM,
as well as the Yellow Brick Road, the Munchkins, and
specific songs like over the Rainbow. You can't use those
without getting permission, which they actually wanted to cut Over
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the Rainbow out of the movie because the movie had
a bunch of different directors. I think it was about
five six that had a hand in this ten plus
riders I think twelve total, And in a cut of
the movie, they thought it was so slow and it
was going to lose the audience by keeping that song
in there, that that song was almost cut. Could you
imagine that movie without over the Rainbow, one of the
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most famous movie songs of all time. All right, that's
some history of the movie. Let's get into the dark stuff. Now.
It has to do a lot with the actors put
in really harsh conditions, starting out with something as simple
as the snow. Whenever Dorothy, the tin Man, the Cowardly Lion,
and the Scarecrow all are trying to make their way
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to Oz. Dorothy gets tired and decides to take a
nap in the middle of his field of flowers. Cowardly
Lion gets tired as well, and then it starts snowing,
Except that fake snow was actually asbestos. In the mid
nineteen thirties and nineteen fifties, they were still using asbestos.
It wasn't until years later that they actually discovered how
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hard harmful it was. But then it was too late.
Because all these actors were exposed to this carcinogenic snow.
I mean you see them completely covered in it, probably
ate a lot of it, and just inhaling it. There
was all these things that they did that they did
not know how they were going to affect the actors.
The Wicked Witch of the West, the paint that was
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used on her ended up staying on her face for
weeks because she had to be just caked in it
while making the movie, and then they couldn't get the
stuff off. There were actually two different actors who played
the tin Man, and the first original tin Man was
played by Buddy Epsen, and he was hospitalized because he
inhaled pure aluminum dust from this makeup. It cost severe
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lung inflammation, making it almost impossible for him to breathe.
It put him in the hospital. He was there for
two weeks and on an oxygen tent, all because of
this makeup that they used that they did not know
how it was going to affect him, should never have
been put on his skin. He was later replaced by
Jack Haley, whose makeup was reformulated into a safer paste.
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You think they would have thought about that before they
put it on the first guy, but still Jack Haley
still got an eye infection from the makeup. And they
also did a really weird thing with the horses whenever
they first make it to Oz and you see them
getting that little carriage thing and they're so blown away
by this horse. I think the first one is painted
red and every time it changes scenes, the horse is
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changed to a different color. So I think it's like red, yellow,
and green. But they used jello to change the color
of the horses. And again it wasn't done with special
effects or post production. They dyed these horses a different
color using jello. There were no reports on what happened
to the horses after the fact if they were okay,
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hopefully because it's just jello. But again, they had no
idea what they were doing. They were just slapping things
on people, whether it was humans or whether it was animals.
The Wicked Witch of the West also got burned on
the set twice. She was trying to escape from munchkin Land.
And then it all went south. When the Wicked Witch
escapes and you see this plum of smoke where they
use this trap door, so you just see the smoke.
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She goes under the door, and then you see the
fire immediately, which you would go back and rewatch that scene.
It's actually done really well the version that they used
in the film, but that was the time it went right,
because it actually went wrong. It was set off too early,
causing Margaret Hamilton's broom, hat and makeup to catch fire.
It scalded her chin, the bridge of her nose, her
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right cheek, the right side of her forehead, her eyelashes,
and her eyebrows were all caught on fire and burned off.
Her upper lip and her eyelid were also badly burned.
Not only that her face, her hands were also badly burned,
and medics had to use alcohol to remove her toxic
makeup again, because then, not only have you suffered all
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these burns, you have this makeup still on your skin
that you won't be able to get out for weeks.
They had to get it off her. It was all
extremely painful, and after she actually came back to work,
she was asked to film the Surrender Dorothy scene, which
also requires smoke effect. Could you imagine going back on
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set where you were just badly burned and then having
to do another scene that also involved smoke effects. I
wouldn't do it. I would not knew it. So she
refused and her stunt double, Betty Danko, took over and
she also suffered a similar injury during the scene and
she was ultimately hospitalized. After her time in the hospital,
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she said, I felt as though my scalp was coming off,
and she said she could only eat liquid foods after
the making of this movie, so a truly terrible set.
You have people being poisoned by makeup, being burned. It
was also a really hot set because the fact that
they were using Technicolor, they needed to have a lot
of bright lights to make sure everything was really vivid
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and highly saturated. But what it turns out happens whenever
you have a bunch of bright lights, it starts to
get really hot, and the studio made it up to
one hundred degrees in there. Because of these lights. You
had people passing out and fainting because it was so
hot in there from the lights. They actually constantly had
to stop production just so the studio could be aired out.
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Because some of the people who were in costume, like
the Winged Monkeys, had these big, heavy costumes. They struggled
so much in the heat and they were passing out,
they were having heat strokes all because they had no
way of cooling down the studio from these big giant
lights making it so hot in there. One person who
suffered a lot in their big costume was the Cowardly Lion.
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Bertlar played the Cowardly Lion, and in order to make
his costume, they made it really authentic, so authentic that
it was made of real lion pelts. It allegedly weighed
ninety pounds and produced a really bad, unpleasant an odor
because again it was made from real lion pelts. And
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he had to be trapped in that thing all day.
So you have these big lights making it one hundred degrees,
you were in this really heavy suit, doing a lot
of physical things, just sweating in that thing. Could you
imagine how bad he's smelled by the end of filming,
and they couldn't wash the thing. How would you wash
that thing without completely wrecking it? So this movie I
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believe took over six months to make. That entire time
just sweating in this thing, just Marin hating and all
the Burt Lars just juices and sweat. That's disgusting. And
not only that, he also spent three hours a day
in the makeup chair. Him, the Scarecrow, and the tin
Man all had to go through three hours of makeup,
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and during those three hours of makeup, they were not
allowed to take off the rest of their costume. They
had to be fully in it while getting that done.
And like I was mentioning earlier, how much this movie
freaked me out as a kid, I saw it to
be a horror movie. I could only imagine if I
saw a scarecrow and a ten man come to life
in a really creepy fashion, I would be freaked out.
But it also freaked out the people on set that
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it would scare people when they went to go eat
lunch together. So all those three main actors had to
eat their lunch on set to not freak anybody else out.
All right, So all that stuff was really bad, But
now we're getting even darker, and I wanted to save
a little bit of time to get into this heavier
stuff because when you talk about Judy Garland and how
this movie made her career but also ruined her life
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and all the things that were forced upon her in
order to get this character right where she was not
seen as a human whatsoever, Judy Garland was forced to
look younger because they originally wanted Shirley Temple to play Dorothy.
And again, Dorothy is a twelve year old girl, Which
why didn't they just change it? When I was rewatching
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this movie, I was thinking, it really doesn't change the
fact if she's twelve or sixteen or closer to Judy
Garland's real age when she was filming this movie, which
was seventeen, why not just make her older instead of
trying to force Judy Garland to look younger. But they
did things like force her to wear a painful corset
to flatten her chest so she would look younger. They
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gave her a really strict diet that included cigarettes. What
diet includes cigarettes? And I know this was back in
the nineteen thirties, where like they didn't know the harmful
effects of asbesos, they also didn't know the harmful effects
of cigarettes. But could you imagine telling a seventeen year
old here's this strict diet and here is a pack
of smokes wild And because of that strict diet, she
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ended up developing a eating disorder in order to maintain
that weight. It was incredibly traumatic. There were studio execs
that referred to her as a fat little pig in pigtails.
That is what they first told her when she tried
to enter show business. And this was the diet that
she was handed immediately after she sign with MGM. That
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at times she would go reach for a plate of
food and they would swiftly take it away from her,
and while filming, she would try to sneak away to
have a snack, and the other execs would inform each
other of what she was doing, and they would write
about her in memos about how she was breaking her diet.
So that's why she started developing this addiction to cigarettes,
smoking upwards of eighty cigarettes a day. She was even
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forced to pop pet pills to keep her awake during
filming and also to control her appetite, so she was
given uppers during filming and then downers so that she
could shut down and get some rest. But it was
this cycle and this addiction that she formed because of
this movie that eventually led to her death. And that
is awful, And it wasn't even the things that were
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surrounding her diet, but she was treated awful on set
from some of the directors involved in this movie, they
would slap her in the face if she started laughing
during a set. There's one in particular where it's an
interaction between her and the cowardly line, and during filming
she couldn't help herself from laughing. It's that actual exact
same scene where she slaps the cowardly lion because he's
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beating up and bullying the tin man and the scarecrow,
and she broke character a little bit. And Victor Fleming,
one of the directors on the movie, slapped her during
that scene. After several ruined takes, he was exhausted, he
was getting annoyed with her. He took her aside, slapped
her on the cheek and told her, now go in
there and work. He apparently did feel terrible after this,
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like how could you not feel terrible? But also don't
do it, and he suggested that someone should punch him
in the face. In return, Judy Garland overheard this. She
did forgive him, gave him a kiss on the nose.
But again, she was sixteen, seventeen years old. What was
she going to do? There was a power dynamic here
that she could not probably not forgive him, but there
is that moment if you go back and watch it,
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where she's kind of trying to keep back a smile,
breaks character just a little bit, And that's all surrounding
what actually happened on set. Garland was not only treated
bad by the directors, she was also treated bad by
some of the actors on set, particularly some of the Munchkins,
which were actually a part of a singing group and
they were hired, but they were all adults, which they
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were also treated unfairly. While you had the dog Toto,
which was actually paid by a dog named Terry, making
one hundred and twenty five dollars a day, all one
hundred and thirty five Munchkin actors only made fifty dollars
a week. But apparently they had a lot of crazy
antics that went on both on set and OFFSET because
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they were actually a part of a singing group and
they were getting screwed by the guy who managed them.
He was taking all the money, what little money they
were actually getting. On set, they were completely rude and
inappropriate towards Judy Garland and then Offset they would go
all stay in a hotel, party, do a lot of
adult things, and also aggressive and drunken behavior and gambling
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and then come back to set and still be crazy
there as well. I really wouldn't know that while watching
the movie, Toto also suffered an injury. Not that dog,
but it was played by a female terrier named Terry,
and during filming, one of the Wicked Witch's Winkie guards
actually stepped on Terry and broke her paw. Terry had
to be replaced for the next four weeks of filming,
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which if you actually look how good of an actor
this dog is, I could see why they had to
pay one hundred and twenty five dollars a day because
there are moments where Toto is on screen for an
extended period of time and having to do a few
different movements like running down the street is one thing
on the dirt road in Kansas, but there are other
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moments that Toto is a big part of moving the
action forward, and Toto does it effortlessly. So I guess
worth one hundred and twenty five dollars a day. And
this is quite possibly one of the most famous urban
legends surrounding the Wizard of Oz. It is probably the
first urban legend I learned about, and maybe something that
contribut did to me having nightmares and negative thoughts around
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the story of the Wizard of Oz and seeing this
as a horror movie. But this is one that actually
didn't happen, and I'll explain why. But the urban legend
is one of the Munchkin actors hung themselves and you
could see it in the background of the movie, and
they left it in because they didn't notice it at
the time. This rumor started when the movie was released
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on VHS in the nineteen eighties, So, like we went
through the history earlier, came out in theaters, wasn't a success,
was shown on TV. Ten years later it was re
released in theaters, and then once VHS became more prominent
in the nineteen eighties, got put on a VHS and
that is where you started to see a lot of
people start to notice things in the background, where if
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ever somebody was making a movie and thought, I'll put
this in the background, nobody will notice it because you
can't pause in a movie theater. Well, once VHS came around,
people were watching things and pausing things at home, and
all these little hidden Easter eggs were starting to be discovered.
So the people who would put hidden messages or hidden things,
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or maybe adult things in the background thinking this is
a joke for me, and nobody else is ever going
to see it, because it's like half a second, it's
one frame. Nobody's ever going to hit Oh, now, you
can hit pause. Now these things are going to be revealed.
So whenever this movie was released on VHS in the eighties,
the rumor was that you saw something in the background
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that appeared to be something swinging down from a tree,
and people were saying that this munchkin hung themselves, that
supposedly they were going through some issues with love and
somebody not loving them back, going through a lot of
hard times, that they hung themselves on set, and that
was all captured on film and made the final cut
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of the movie, which you can't see some mistakes here
and there in The Wizard of Oz. It's not uncommon
you see a mistake get left in the final cut
of a movie. That being that you see this figure
in the enchanted forest during the scene where Dorothy the
Scarecrow and the tin men are singing We're off to
see the Wizard. What is actually going on in the
background is in order to make Awez seem more like
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this magical place, in order to make the forest feel
like it was alive. They had cranes, the animal African cranes,
these wild birds walking around, and you can see that
in other parts of the movie because they wanted it
to feel like the set was alive. And what you
actually see is one of these cranes in the background.
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And when I rewatched this scene on HBO Max, it
wasn't even a question for me, because now the movie
has been restored, it's crystal clear. It doesn't look like
it was made in the nineteen thirties, and you can
tell so clearly now that it is a crane. Now
some people may say, well, they went back and fixed it.
They digitally took out that because they didn't want this
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dark thing associated with the classic movie. But I saw
clear as day this crane that they borrowed from the
Los Angeles Zoo to make the set more authentic. That
higher resolution allows you to see that. But this nineteen
eighties grainy version on VHS that wasn't restored the way
we have it now. I could see if you go
watch it on YouTube, it does look like something swings
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down a little bit, but there's no way that would
make the final cut of a movie. But it is
a good urban legend to have. The claim is also
further disproven because that scene in the forest was actually
filmed months before any scene involving the Munchkins were even shot,
meaning that none of the Munchkin actors were on set
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during that time. So urban legend debunked. So that is
a dark history of the Wizard of Oz. But in
order to not go out on such a low note
talking about death and all these crazy things that happened
on set, here is just the strange coincidence. There is
a coat worn by Frank Morgan, who plays the Wizard
of Ouse and a few other characters in the movie.
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The story is that during the filming of the movie,
the wardrobe department bought a coat from a thrift store
because they needed a coat for the Wizard of Oz.
He also played Professor Marvel, and while filming the movie,
they found the name L. Frank Baum sewn into the
coat's inner lining that Sam L. Frank Baum we were
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talking about earlier that wrote the original Wizard of Oz,
which L. Frank Baum was born on May fifteenth, eighteen
fifty six, in New York and he died on May sixth,
nineteen nineteen in Hollywood, California. He suffered a stroke at
the age of sixty two, so we never got to
see his vision truly come to life in The Wizard
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of Oz in nineteen thirty nine. But what a crazy
coincidence that they went to a thrift store to just
get a coat for the Wizard of Oz and found
out it belonged to the actual author. MGM ended up
contacting his widow, maud Gage Bomb and the Chicago taylor
who made the coat, and they confirmed that it was
authentic and it did belong to him, And the studio
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was just as mind blown as you and I are
right now that they actually kept this quiet because they
thought it would be so unbelievable and that people thought
they were only using it as a publicity stunt, which
they ended up doing eventually. But what a wild coincidence,
And now seeing his movie go on to inspire so
many of their films, and now with Wicked being so
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at the center of pop culture. Now, if they said
this about Wicked and they're like, we wait to go
get this coat for the Wizard of Oz, and can
you believe it that his name was also written in
this one? Then I would start not believing things. But
there it is the dark history of the Wizard of Oz.
Let's get into it now. Oh boy. Spoiler free movie
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review of Five Nights at Freddy's two. This movie was torture.
I feel like if I would have had my head
smashed in with the mallet before going to see this movie,
I would have been joyed it. Because I don't understand
the appeal of this. I really don't. I tried after
I went to go see the first one and came
on here and said, not for me, this movie was bad,
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and I got so much backlash from that of people
saying I never played the game, I don't understand the lore.
I went back and revisited it all, and I thought, Okay,
maybe there's something I missed here. So many people love
this so much that maybe I am the one who
is out of touch and don't understand Five Nights at
Freddy So I was actually going into this movie with
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the good heart. I had a little bit more expectation
now that I understand what this movie was trying to be,
which I wanted the first one to be more of
a horror movie. I thought it was going to be
a little bit scary wasn't that at all, but I
was at least interested by the premise by the characters,
which it's animatronics that come to life. They are haunted.
Josh Hutcherson's character in the first one is a security guard,
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which if you haven't seen the first one going into
this one, you're gonna be a little bit lost because
they do a really bad job at re establishing anything.
They make all these weird like allusions to the first
one that if you didn't see that one, you have
no idea what is going on here, And I thought
maybe in the sequel they could get at least something better,
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something rreat, make it a little bit more scary. The
only good thing about this movie was Matthew Lillard. That's it.
If he wasn't in this movie, I would have left
so irritated. And I wasn't even going to see this movie.
I'll be completely upfront with you. I was going to
go watch SpongeBob, the new SpongeBob movie. I was going
to a screening, which I don't really go to those
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because the movie doesn't come out until this Friday. But
I knew going into the holidays my time was a
little bit limited with traveling that, I was like, Okay,
they're having a Saturday showing at eleven am. I'm gonna
be the only single adult there to go see the
SpongeBob movie. But I love SpongeBob. I went and the
Regal had a power problem, was completely dark. When I
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got there, people outside waiting and they said the screening
was canceled. I was so bummed, but luckily I was like,
I'll go see five minutes at Freddy's too. There happens
to be a showing at another movie theater about fifteen
minutes away. Hit my ticket. I got there right on
time as the last trailer was ending, and I sat
there and watched the movie. So maybe I was a
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little bit not irritated but bummed out going into it
because I wanted to see Patrick and SpongeBob. I even
wore my SpongeBob vans that I haven't woren in a
really long time. I did not get to see that,
and I just could not believe how wooden all the
acting was. It had some of the worst dialogue I
have ever seen. I think, quite possibly my worst theater
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experience ever, because the interactions between all the characters were awful. Awful.
Everybody in this movie was so bad. Josh Hutcheson's character
is insufferable, along with all the adults that live in
this town. And what this movie is about is basically,
there is this big fos fest happening now. There is
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a reason that these animatronics are back, and Josh Hutcherson
is trying to protect his sister in the movie, Abby
from finding out the truth. He's trying to keep these
things from her. You have the love interest from the
first one back. Elizabeth Hale plays Vanessa, who actually enjoyed her.
If the movie was just about her character, maybe I
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would be a little bit more interested. But I could
not believe the interactions between her and Josh Hutcherson's character
in this movie did not make sense whatsoever. There is
a point where I thought, Dude, this girl is so hot,
so out of your league, and you are being awful
to her. If that was me in that situation, I'd
be like, you're so hot, I don't care what you
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tell me. Right now, I'm gonna believe you. Let's go
forget about my sister, Let's go hang out. The teacher.
Abby's teacher in this movie was so insufferable and it
made no sense. The intro was boring and it tried
to be so chilling. And I know this movie is PG. Thirteen,
and I think the message here was supposed to be
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like be nice to your parents or value your parents,
because it makes these weird kind of statements towards adults
and protecting kids. Nothing in this movie landed whatsoever. The
horror elements were bad. The updated animatronics did nothing for me.
I wanted them to take out every adult in this
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town because they were so bad. So maybe it's supposed
to be like inspiration to kids that adults suck, kids rule,
We should listen to kids more. There was no redeeming
quality of this movie. The only thing I am happy
for is that some of these people are getting work
on this scale, Like Josh Hutcherson as a person and
as an actor. I root for him. The announcement of
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him and Jennifer Lawrence returning to The Hunger Games is
exciting to me. I'm just happy he has worked because
after those movies ended, he was like, man, Hollywood really
choose you up and spits you out. I went from
my entire childhood of being able to land every role.
After that, I couldn't get any work. So the only
good thing I could say about this movie is that
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got Josh Hutcherson out of a bad spot and it
gave him some work. But could we get the guy
some better dialogue? Could we get him some better action?
The only interesting sequence was what I have to assume
was the best interpretation they could do of the video game,
where his character actually does something. Of note, this was
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essentially a lifetime horror movie where I don't know who
this is for. I don't understand the purpose of this sequel,
and I think they just killed the franchise altogether by
making another movie. What is going on with Blumhouse? Why
can they not make a good sequel? Look at what
they did to Megan earlier this year. They killed that
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franchise because they took what made the first one great,
the horror elements, the scariness of Megan, leaning in a
little bit to the humor, but still at the core
of that movie, it is a horror movie. Megan two
was so bad. I could not finish it on Peacock.
I just couldn't. I tried two to three times to
finish that, but they thought, Hey, the first one was
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so good. Let's just do whatever we want. Let's not
make it a horror movie anymore. Let's make it an
action movie. Why can they not make a good sequel?
This was supposed to be their flagship franchise. It had
every horror movie trope you can imagine. The one I
hate the most was in this movie. I won't even
say it because I guess it's kind of a spoiler,
but there is a trope that they used in Five
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Nights at Freddy's Two that every Blumhouse movie uses. Does
Jason Blum just come out of his producer chair and say, Hey, guys,
you know what this movie is missing? This trademark thing
that this studio is so proud of. Awful? Was this
movie written with Chad gbt? Because that's what it felt like,
where there was just an answer for everything. All the
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way throughout this movie, I could not believe it. I
won't get into specifics about the plot, but here is
an example of a problem. Within Five Nights at Freddy's Two. Hey,
there's no key to this door. I sure wish I
could get in this door. Oh there's a key over here,
Let's open the door. Now. That was the entire movie.
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Anytime there was a problem or any kind of friction,
there was an easy solution right there waiting in the corner.
That's why I feel that Chad GBT wrote the script
of this movie, because it's like, hey, create a problem,
create a solution. Here's the problem, here's the solution. Oh,
it's so easy. And I don't want to hate on
child actors, so I won't. I don't think it's the
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child actor's fault in this movie. It has to be
the direction because some of the weakest performances I've ever
seen on screen. I was so let down and I
don't even know why I had any kind of expectation
going into it. But like I mentioned earlier, I wanted
to go see the SpongeBob movie. I did not get that.
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And the entire time I had that SpongeBob character in
my head. Oh brother, this guy stinks. That is how
I felt from beginning to end. There were moments where
these actors were talking to themselves for no reason. I'm like,
who are they talking to? Overstating things for no reason, like, oh,
that must be where she is? Who are you talking to? Bro? Goodness,
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this is hands down my worst in theater experience of
the year. Normally I take some time to collect myself
whenever I get back from watching a movie, but I
sat down immediately. I don't even think I looked at
my notes that I made, Like why do I even
need them? Week Opening The Adults suck worst dialogue Blumhouse
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is just bad. Josh Hutchinson's character is a terrible guardian,
like he's supposed to be watching his sister and he's
just awful at that video game s dialogue, which maybe
that is what they got right. It felt like just
cut scenes from a video game, and I just can't
imagine them being on set and delivering this dialogue. Seriously, like,
how did they do that? Did they think there was
a good movie in there? How was this even made?
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How has this approved? How did this go out into
the world. I feel so bad for the people who
were actually excited for this movie. And I know people
are gonna sound off in the comments and say how
wrong I am, how boomer I am, how dumb I
am for my opinions on this movie. But I don't
get it. I wish I got it. Do you think
I want to waste my afternoon watching a movie that
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is so bad. The only redeeming thing I can say
is that next time I go back to the theater,
I am going to watch the SpongeBob movie for five
nights at Freddy's. How low can you go? I mean,
I didn't leave. I watched the entire thing. By the
time the credits rolled, I was like, this could not
have come soon enough. At least it was under an
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hour and forty minutes for five nights Freddy's. I give
it one out of five animatronics. Get it out of here.
It's time to head down to movie Mike Traylor, Paul
all right, it is time to blind react to the
Supergirl trailer. At the time of recording this, it was
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posted on YouTube one hour ago. I literally just got
home from work. I didn't open up Instagram, I didn't
open up TikTok. I didn't want to see a single
second of it until I sat down right now, because
the last time I did this was for the Superman trailer.
I just wanted to give you my raw reaction of
me seeing David Corn sweat in the suit for the
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first time. And the only reason I'm moderately excited going
into this one is because I don't know a whole
lot about the Supergirl character and her origins, but I
am curious to know more Millie Adcock is playing Supergirl.
I feel like most people know her from House of Dragon.
I can never get into that show. Sorry out so slow.
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I never got through season one. I primarily know her
from Sirens, which was a Netflix show she did with
Megan Fahi that started out really good and interesting and
kind of went nowhere. But the thing I took away
from that show is she is a good actor. There
are a lot of things going on now with Warner
Brothers being bought by Netflix, which James Gunn is saying
that it's not affecting their plans, and then putting out
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this trailer now which we did know we were going
to get it before Christmas came that it looks like,
at least now they're going to be separate and we're
not going to see anything too crazy. I wonder if
that is going to change over time, because obviously when
you have these two things merging, Warner Brothers, HBO Max
and Netflix becoming one, what is going to happen. Some
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people are worried that it's not going to come out
in theaters. Traditionally some people are saying if Superman came
out straight to streaming, it would have been just as big.
So we'll get into more of that. But now I
want to hit play on this trailer. We'll watch it,
I'll talk about it. I'm looking at the runtime now.
It is two minutes and three seconds, so I'm just
gonna let it run. You'll hear my little commentary in
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the background. If something big happens, if we see some
characters that maybe we're not expecting. But we'll watch it together. Here,
I'll come back. I'll get more of my thoughts on
what is going on with DC, how we see this
playing into their first chapter. All right, I'm clicking into it. Now,
turn it up. Let's full screen this thing and let's
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watch the Supergirl trailers. Be crypto. Here. I manage to
get most of it on the paper of this sign.
Let's catch up, buddy, Hi, cars are out here by.
(41:00):
It is clear the twenty three will be the best
year at Let's be honest, babe, it's not a very
high Barty clear, I didn't know any of you was
(41:20):
still alive. What was it like, Sluice? Everything in the
day her time didn't die to day gods are not
that kind. Okay, this does not look like this is
gonna end well for you guys. Okay, house like you. No,
(41:55):
it's a pretty small group of two. A vision. He
sees the good in everyone, and I see the truth. Ooh.
The suit he sees the good, She sees the truth. Okay, okay,
(42:23):
all right. A media thing that sticks out to me
is the suit. It looks fantastic just in the thumbnail alone.
It greatly mirrors the David Cornsweat suit, but it stands
out so much of anything we've seen from a female
led superhero movie that that is exciting to me. The
fact that she has the same powers as Superman, and
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even what she said in the trailer of Superman sees
the good and everybody she sees the truth, that just
tells you the difference in their personalities. You see what
her character has gone through, why she has troubles with alcohol.
Beginning of this trailer, you see her basically looking dead
in the eyes, lifeless. There's that scene where it looks
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like she's sitting down at like a train station or
like a bus station, and you see like the wind
blow in her hair and she just doesn't react. To it.
You just see her shades, which that is a fantastic visual.
And then in this trailer we are learning about her history,
which seems to be pretty dark. She is responding to
the evil things that she has experienced in her life
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and the awful things of the gods destroying her home.
In that trailer, we heard them say losing her home
in one day. She's like, no, the gods wouldn't be
that nice. So it seems to be that the people
who destroyed her home did it slow and painfully. And
immediately I'm getting a lot of Guardians of the Galaxy vibes,
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which I think anytime you have a character like that
who maybe likes to party a little bit, maybe is
a little bit messy, has a bit of an edge
to them, and you put them in this cosmic universe
that looks very play and while she is so I
don't want to say upbeat, but a little bit comical,
and you see the villains that she is going after
are so serious and big and dead pin and bulky.
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There is that contrast that you create that just lends
itself to looking just like what James Gunn did with
the Guardians of the Galaxy movies, and if you're gonna
rip off something, rip off the people who did it
the best, and also rip off the person the director
James Gunn, who knows that universe, which he isn't directing
this movie, but he still has a big hand in
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it and can give our director here, Craig Gilepsi, some
insight on that. But I'll go through the YouTube description now.
When an unexpected and ruthless adversary strikes too close to home,
Kara zor l aka Supergirl reluctantly joins forces with an
unlikely companion on an epic interstellar journey of vengeance and justice.
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That is what I'm getting the sense of here, where
she starts out maybe not caring about life, not care
about herself, which we see that a bit from her
character in Superman, kind of being one that just kind
of stumbles into a room, doesn't care about timelines, doesn't
care about anything. But just because she doesn't have her
life together does not mean that she is not powerful,
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because I know there's going to be that moment in
this movie. We see a little bit here from one
of the fight sequences where she really turns it on,
and that is going to be a moment where heads
start to roll. And not only am I excited for
this movie, I don't want to get too ahead of myself,
but I can't wait until we go next level and
it is Superman and Supergirl fighting together because they contrast
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each other so much, where they both come from similar backgrounds.
But maybe it's just one day or how your life
is determined by how you react to situations where if
they both had something really traumatic happen to them, like
their home planet being destroyed, which they are cousins, one
of them reacts in a way like Superman, I'm still
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gonna find the good in people. I'm still going to
do what is right, and one of them responds like Supergirl,
who says, no, people are awful and I want to
expose the truth in people, and it exposed them for
the true villains that they actually are. I am gonna
go out and defeat those people. I can't wait to
see those two forces join up and start beating people
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up together and having differences in how to go about
doing these things. I would have to imagine Superman has
a no kill policy. He's not gonna kill anybody. He'll
hurt people, he'll throw people every now and then if
he gets really mad. Someone tells me Supergirl wouldn't mind
seeing some people go down and maybe doesn't have those
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same morals of it really awful. I'm gonna kill you.
But alongside Lily Adcock as Supergirl, we also have Jason
Momoa is gonna be in this movie. He is gonna
be Lobo, who is an alien mercenary and a bounty
hunter from another planet. Alongside this cast you also have
supergirls father, Supergirl's mother. We didn't get any unexpected that cameos.
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I don't think David Cornsweat is going to be in
this movie at all, even though in this trailer you
do see her or at least in front of her
a newspaper, so she is still getting news stories about
her cousin doing good things, about him stopping a nuclear
reactor and also saving cats and trees, so he's still
saving the little animals, but her, on the other hand,
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is still a cynical drunk. Supergirl in this movie is
also going to be twenty three years old, so that
also gives you kind of a state of mind, or
at least where she is in her brain development and
how a twenty three year old with superpowers would act
in the situation, and I think that is great, that
is important. I think we haven't seen a character like
this in a really long time, especially one to have
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such a big movie coming out that is really going
to be one of the major tent poles of DC
and Warner Brothers next year. We got to look at
our villain, Krem, who is going to be the main
protagonist in this movie. Aside from the suit, I really
love it. They actually showed her heat vision in this,
which is something I wish we would have had a
little bit more of in Superman. There's a lot of flying,
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but I need more heat vision. And I also imagine
at the very beginning of this and throughout the trailer,
they kind of hint towards something not great happening to Crypto.
I don't even want to say it, because I think
he was a big part of the comedic relief and
just the heart aside from Superman of course, but something
that I think a lot of people were drawn to
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in that first movie. If they wanted to go next
level and do something memorable but tragic, I have to
imagine it is going to be pulling in our heartstrings
and something happening to Crypto. I don't want to see that,
But this is a character who has already dealt with
a lot of loss by losing her home. If they
take away Crypton, could they take away Crypto? I think
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I just love that level of cynicism. And maybe it's
just because I'm becoming a little bit more cynical as
I grow older. I kind of see it from her
perspective of having a cynical outlook on the world, especially
when destructive things are going on at this level. I'm in.
I'm all about it. Supergirl is coming out next year
on June twenty sixth, twenty twenty six. Thanks for joining
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me on this blind reaction. And that was this week's
edition of Movie Li Famer Bar and that is going
to do it for another episode of the podcast. But
before I go, I got to give my listeners shout
out of the week. This week, I'm shouting out my
buddy Sean Stenson, who tagged me on his Instagram story
that I was his most listened to podcast of twenty
(49:31):
twenty five. So appreciate that. Sean. Shawn and I actually
go way back, I think to maybe two thousand and five,
two thousand and four. The fact that that was twenty
years ago now about it be twenty one years ago
is wild. But Sean and I were both members of
the Alkalan Trio fan Club back in the day. I
still remember the day I got in the mail my
(49:52):
official fan club card. I still have it in my wallet.
It's kind of broken into pieces now, But there was
a core group of people that I only knew from
the internet, and Sean was one of those people who
I've kept up with now over the years, and I
think we've only met and hung out once. And I'll
be honest, Sean, seeing you tag me in your story,
that was the first time I even knew you listened
(50:14):
to this podcast. So thank you for making your number
one podcast and telling other people about the show. So
really appreciate that. If I made anybody else's top podcast
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watch good movies and I will talk to you later
Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I
am your host Movie Mike. Today we're diving into one
of my favorite movie topics of all time, the dark
truth about the Wizard of Oz. All the crazy things
that happened behind the scenes and the blood, the sweat,
the tears, the people being burned alive that went into
the making of this classic movie. In the movie review,
(00:22):
we'll be talking about Five Nights at Freddy's. I hated
the original, how did I feel about the sequel? In
the trailer park, I will be blind reacting to the
new Supergirl trailer it's coming out next year, and we'll
dive into what is going on with the DC universe
now that Netflix has bought Warner Brothers. Thank you for
being here, Thank you for being subscribed. Shout out to
(00:43):
the Monday Morning Movie crew. And now let's talk movies
from the Nashville Podcast Network. This is movie Mike's Movie Podcast.
One of my favorite movie topics to talk about of
all time is the dark truth behind the Wizard of Oz.
I have been infatuated with this movie since I was
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a kid. Gave me nightmares the first time I watched it.
I always found the ten Man to be really creepy.
The scarecrow was creepy as well. And when you look
into the history of this movie, so many crazy things
happened on this set that if I could go back
in history to any time period and experience one thing,
(01:23):
I would want to go back to the making of
The Wizard of Oz and see how many of these
things were actually true and how many of them were
just legend. Because when you hear about the things the actors,
the extras, all the dogs involved in this movie had
to go through to get this film made, it is wild.
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Also the fact that this movie is almost one hundred
years old now, and when The Wizard of Oz first
opened in theaters it was a flop. It actually lost
one point one million dollars in its initial run. But
when you look at how famous this movie is now,
argue I would say the most famous movie of all time,
being that the most people have seen it in some
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form or fashion now. And even if you just make
a reference a movie quote, for the most part, everybody
knows exactly what you are talking about. And a movie
like this just could not happen today. But whenever it
first came out in theaters, did not do well. There
was actually another Tree Garland movie that came out that
same year that performed better. But now flash forward to
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twenty twenty five. People are paying between one hundred and
twenty to upwards a four hundred dollars to go see
this and now makes over two million dollars a day
when it is shown at the Sphere in Vegas. And
I am one of those people. I would love to
see it in Vegas on that big screen. How they
expand all the scenes, the things that fly out at
you while you're watching it. You get the fog, you
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get the fire effects, the falling leaves, the falling butterflies,
They throw apples at you, monkey props. That would be amazing.
And the that it did become famous is because, like
I was mentioning, it did not do well at the
box office. The movie cost two point eight million dollars
to make, which was the most expensive movie that MGM
had ever made at the time, but it lost one
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point one million dollars at the box office. But it
was all due to the movie being shown on TV.
The Wizard of Oz had its first broadcast on CBS
in nineteen fifty six, and the television showings were so
successful that it actually turned a profit for the studio,
and then its profitability was cemented after it was re
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released ten years later in nineteen forty five and saw
even more success whenever it was finally released on home
video when that became a thing. Let's talk about our
cast of characters in this episode and in the movie.
Judy Garland played Dorothy Gale, of course, the heart and
soul of the entire movie. Ray Bolger played the scarecrow
and hunk back in Kansas. Which I know this sounds stupid,
(03:58):
but as a kid, I didn't put it together that
all the people in Dorothy's life at the farm in
Kansas were all the people that she encountered in The
Wizard of Oz. Again, I watched this movie when I
was really young. For the first time. It freaked me out.
I didn't fully get that. But Ray Bulger was the Scarecrow.
He was also hug Jack Hayley was the tin man,
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and Hickory back in Kansas. Bert Laar was a cowardly lion,
and Zeke back in Kansas. You have Margaret Hamilton as
the wicked Witch of the West and also Misses Gulch
and Frank Morgan plays the Wizard and Professor Marvel, a
couple of other people in the movie as well, and
Terry the Dog played Toto. The movie was based on
the book by L. Frank Baum, published a nineteen hundred
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called The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, which if you hear
that name and think that sounds really familiar. L. Frank
Baum was the inspiration behind the name Alphaba that we
see later in Wicked, which is also kind of the
catalyst of why I become so infatuated again with this movie,
went back and rewatched it on HBO Max. But that
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is the connection between the original writer of The Wizard
of Oz and Wicked and the movie we all know.
Wasn't the first ever adaptation of the book. They came
out with the movie in nineteen ten. It was the
early silent film. They came out with a bunch of
different versions. Actually, there was also The Land of Oz
in nineteen ten, Dorothy and the Scarecrow in nineteen ten,
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The Patchwork Girl of Oz in nineteen fourteen, and another
silent film released in nineteen twenty five, also called The
Wizard of Oz. And there are some differences between the
book and the movie In the book, Oz is a
real place, but in the movie it is a dream
and revealed to all be fake. And in the book
the slippers are actually silver, but they changed them to
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ruby in the movie because they really wanted to emphasize
the use of technic color in The Wizard of Oz,
which I think some people think that The Wizard of
Oz was the first ever movie to use technicolor, or
maybe even the first ever movie in color, because it
as a real big part of the movie whenever it
goes from black and white, even though it's not really
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in black and white, it's a Cefia tone, which is
it's like a rich, warm, reddish brown, but it's made
to look really old, almost like if it's on a
pirate map or something. But the reason they changed the
slippers from silver to red is because they wanted to
really utilize the color in the movie. And how they
actually film that scene is everything you see in Kansas.
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In that scene specifically, you see a fake set that
is that cfia color, so they actually painted it that color,
so when they filmed it, it looks like it's lacking
all color. And in that scene you actually see a
stunt double for Judy Garland, and you just see the
back of her. She opens the door steps away, and
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the real Dorothy played by Judy Garland, walks through, and
as she opens the door, you see the colorful world
of Oz inside there. So that was all done in
one shot, no special effects, no green screen. I think
that is why I'm so infatuated with the making of
this movie, because it is a technical triumph seeing all
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these things and how they were actually made without the
use of any commuter's way back in nineteen thirty nine,
another one of those things that kind of blew my
mind when I first found out about it, I was like,
how did they create this tornado? So they actually built
this contraption with like this big long tube and they
made it spin around and they blew a lot of
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things around it, and they just filmed that scene. So
it's essentially a giant thirty five foot cloth cone wrapped
in chicken wire, suspended from this big crane, and they
attached it to a moving car to give it that
spinning effect, and then they filmed like a bunch of
debris and stuff spinning around, and they just filmed that scene,
just the tornado, and then they put Judy Garland in
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front of it and just blasted that footage on a
big screen using another projector, so the background is what
you see in the movie that was already all filmed.
They just have that projected and then they have Judy
Garland on an actual set with the wind still blowing
to add that effect. So if you go back and
rewatch it, it's a little bit easier to understand how
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they did that because they don't have green screens. There
was actually something being projected behind her, and then when
you add in all the other little effects, it makes
it look like she's actually running from a tornado, but
she's really just in front of some projected footage. That
is an awesome achievement in filmmaking, which a lot of
the stuff from the movie is actually copywritten, and even
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though the original story of The Wizard of Oz is
now public domain, the Ruby Red Slippers are copywritten. The
Wicked Witch's appearance are also copywritten and owned by MGM,
as well as the Yellow Brick Road, the Munchkins, and
specific songs like over the Rainbow. You can't use those
without getting permission, which they actually wanted to cut Over
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the Rainbow out of the movie because the movie had
a bunch of different directors. I think it was about
five six that had a hand in this ten plus
riders I think twelve total, And in a cut of
the movie, they thought it was so slow and it
was going to lose the audience by keeping that song
in there, that that song was almost cut. Could you
imagine that movie without over the Rainbow, one of the
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most famous movie songs of all time. All right, that's
some history of the movie. Let's get into the dark stuff. Now.
It has to do a lot with the actors put
in really harsh conditions, starting out with something as simple
as the snow. Whenever Dorothy, the tin Man, the Cowardly Lion,
and the Scarecrow all are trying to make their way
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to Oz. Dorothy gets tired and decides to take a
nap in the middle of his field of flowers. Cowardly
Lion gets tired as well, and then it starts snowing,
Except that fake snow was actually asbestos. In the mid
nineteen thirties and nineteen fifties, they were still using asbestos.
It wasn't until years later that they actually discovered how
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hard harmful it was. But then it was too late.
Because all these actors were exposed to this carcinogenic snow.
I mean you see them completely covered in it, probably
ate a lot of it, and just inhaling it. There
was all these things that they did that they did
not know how they were going to affect the actors.
The Wicked Witch of the West, the paint that was
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used on her ended up staying on her face for
weeks because she had to be just caked in it
while making the movie, and then they couldn't get the
stuff off. There were actually two different actors who played
the tin Man, and the first original tin Man was
played by Buddy Epsen, and he was hospitalized because he
inhaled pure aluminum dust from this makeup. It cost severe
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lung inflammation, making it almost impossible for him to breathe.
It put him in the hospital. He was there for
two weeks and on an oxygen tent, all because of
this makeup that they used that they did not know
how it was going to affect him, should never have
been put on his skin. He was later replaced by
Jack Haley, whose makeup was reformulated into a safer paste.
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You think they would have thought about that before they
put it on the first guy, but still Jack Haley
still got an eye infection from the makeup. And they
also did a really weird thing with the horses whenever
they first make it to Oz and you see them
getting that little carriage thing and they're so blown away
by this horse. I think the first one is painted
red and every time it changes scenes, the horse is
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changed to a different color. So I think it's like red, yellow,
and green. But they used jello to change the color
of the horses. And again it wasn't done with special
effects or post production. They dyed these horses a different
color using jello. There were no reports on what happened
to the horses after the fact if they were okay,
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hopefully because it's just jello. But again, they had no
idea what they were doing. They were just slapping things
on people, whether it was humans or whether it was animals.
The Wicked Witch of the West also got burned on
the set twice. She was trying to escape from munchkin Land.
And then it all went south. When the Wicked Witch
escapes and you see this plum of smoke where they
use this trap door, so you just see the smoke.
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She goes under the door, and then you see the
fire immediately, which you would go back and rewatch that scene.
It's actually done really well the version that they used
in the film, but that was the time it went right,
because it actually went wrong. It was set off too early,
causing Margaret Hamilton's broom, hat and makeup to catch fire.
It scalded her chin, the bridge of her nose, her
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right cheek, the right side of her forehead, her eyelashes,
and her eyebrows were all caught on fire and burned off.
Her upper lip and her eyelid were also badly burned.
Not only that her face, her hands were also badly burned,
and medics had to use alcohol to remove her toxic
makeup again, because then, not only have you suffered all
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these burns, you have this makeup still on your skin
that you won't be able to get out for weeks.
They had to get it off her. It was all
extremely painful, and after she actually came back to work,
she was asked to film the Surrender Dorothy scene, which
also requires smoke effect. Could you imagine going back on
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set where you were just badly burned and then having
to do another scene that also involved smoke effects. I
wouldn't do it. I would not knew it. So she
refused and her stunt double, Betty Danko, took over and
she also suffered a similar injury during the scene and
she was ultimately hospitalized. After her time in the hospital,
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she said, I felt as though my scalp was coming off,
and she said she could only eat liquid foods after
the making of this movie, so a truly terrible set.
You have people being poisoned by makeup, being burned. It
was also a really hot set because the fact that
they were using Technicolor, they needed to have a lot
of bright lights to make sure everything was really vivid
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and highly saturated. But what it turns out happens whenever
you have a bunch of bright lights, it starts to
get really hot, and the studio made it up to
one hundred degrees in there. Because of these lights. You
had people passing out and fainting because it was so
hot in there from the lights. They actually constantly had
to stop production just so the studio could be aired out.
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Because some of the people who were in costume, like
the Winged Monkeys, had these big, heavy costumes. They struggled
so much in the heat and they were passing out,
they were having heat strokes all because they had no
way of cooling down the studio from these big giant
lights making it so hot in there. One person who
suffered a lot in their big costume was the Cowardly Lion.
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Bertlar played the Cowardly Lion, and in order to make
his costume, they made it really authentic, so authentic that
it was made of real lion pelts. It allegedly weighed
ninety pounds and produced a really bad, unpleasant an odor
because again it was made from real lion pelts. And
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he had to be trapped in that thing all day.
So you have these big lights making it one hundred degrees,
you were in this really heavy suit, doing a lot
of physical things, just sweating in that thing. Could you
imagine how bad he's smelled by the end of filming,
and they couldn't wash the thing. How would you wash
that thing without completely wrecking it? So this movie I
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believe took over six months to make. That entire time
just sweating in this thing, just Marin hating and all
the Burt Lars just juices and sweat. That's disgusting. And
not only that, he also spent three hours a day
in the makeup chair. Him, the Scarecrow, and the tin
Man all had to go through three hours of makeup,
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and during those three hours of makeup, they were not
allowed to take off the rest of their costume. They
had to be fully in it while getting that done.
And like I was mentioning earlier, how much this movie
freaked me out as a kid, I saw it to
be a horror movie. I could only imagine if I
saw a scarecrow and a ten man come to life
in a really creepy fashion, I would be freaked out.
But it also freaked out the people on set that
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it would scare people when they went to go eat
lunch together. So all those three main actors had to
eat their lunch on set to not freak anybody else out.
All right, So all that stuff was really bad, But
now we're getting even darker, and I wanted to save
a little bit of time to get into this heavier
stuff because when you talk about Judy Garland and how
this movie made her career but also ruined her life
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and all the things that were forced upon her in
order to get this character right where she was not
seen as a human whatsoever, Judy Garland was forced to
look younger because they originally wanted Shirley Temple to play Dorothy.
And again, Dorothy is a twelve year old girl, Which
why didn't they just change it? When I was rewatching
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this movie, I was thinking, it really doesn't change the
fact if she's twelve or sixteen or closer to Judy
Garland's real age when she was filming this movie, which
was seventeen, why not just make her older instead of
trying to force Judy Garland to look younger. But they
did things like force her to wear a painful corset
to flatten her chest so she would look younger. They
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gave her a really strict diet that included cigarettes. What
diet includes cigarettes? And I know this was back in
the nineteen thirties, where like they didn't know the harmful
effects of asbesos, they also didn't know the harmful effects
of cigarettes. But could you imagine telling a seventeen year
old here's this strict diet and here is a pack
of smokes wild And because of that strict diet, she
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ended up developing a eating disorder in order to maintain
that weight. It was incredibly traumatic. There were studio execs
that referred to her as a fat little pig in pigtails.
That is what they first told her when she tried
to enter show business. And this was the diet that
she was handed immediately after she sign with MGM. That
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at times she would go reach for a plate of
food and they would swiftly take it away from her,
and while filming, she would try to sneak away to
have a snack, and the other execs would inform each
other of what she was doing, and they would write
about her in memos about how she was breaking her diet.
So that's why she started developing this addiction to cigarettes,
smoking upwards of eighty cigarettes a day. She was even
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forced to pop pet pills to keep her awake during
filming and also to control her appetite, so she was
given uppers during filming and then downers so that she
could shut down and get some rest. But it was
this cycle and this addiction that she formed because of
this movie that eventually led to her death. And that
is awful, And it wasn't even the things that were
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surrounding her diet, but she was treated awful on set
from some of the directors involved in this movie, they
would slap her in the face if she started laughing
during a set. There's one in particular where it's an
interaction between her and the cowardly line, and during filming
she couldn't help herself from laughing. It's that actual exact
same scene where she slaps the cowardly lion because he's
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beating up and bullying the tin man and the scarecrow,
and she broke character a little bit. And Victor Fleming,
one of the directors on the movie, slapped her during
that scene. After several ruined takes, he was exhausted, he
was getting annoyed with her. He took her aside, slapped
her on the cheek and told her, now go in
there and work. He apparently did feel terrible after this,
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like how could you not feel terrible? But also don't
do it, and he suggested that someone should punch him
in the face. In return, Judy Garland overheard this. She
did forgive him, gave him a kiss on the nose.
But again, she was sixteen, seventeen years old. What was
she going to do? There was a power dynamic here
that she could not probably not forgive him, but there
is that moment if you go back and watch it,
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where she's kind of trying to keep back a smile,
breaks character just a little bit, And that's all surrounding
what actually happened on set. Garland was not only treated
bad by the directors, she was also treated bad by
some of the actors on set, particularly some of the Munchkins,
which were actually a part of a singing group and
they were hired, but they were all adults, which they
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were also treated unfairly. While you had the dog Toto,
which was actually paid by a dog named Terry, making
one hundred and twenty five dollars a day, all one
hundred and thirty five Munchkin actors only made fifty dollars
a week. But apparently they had a lot of crazy
antics that went on both on set and OFFSET because
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they were actually a part of a singing group and
they were getting screwed by the guy who managed them.
He was taking all the money, what little money they
were actually getting. On set, they were completely rude and
inappropriate towards Judy Garland and then Offset they would go
all stay in a hotel, party, do a lot of
adult things, and also aggressive and drunken behavior and gambling
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and then come back to set and still be crazy
there as well. I really wouldn't know that while watching
the movie, Toto also suffered an injury. Not that dog,
but it was played by a female terrier named Terry,
and during filming, one of the Wicked Witch's Winkie guards
actually stepped on Terry and broke her paw. Terry had
to be replaced for the next four weeks of filming,
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which if you actually look how good of an actor
this dog is, I could see why they had to
pay one hundred and twenty five dollars a day because
there are moments where Toto is on screen for an
extended period of time and having to do a few
different movements like running down the street is one thing
on the dirt road in Kansas, but there are other
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moments that Toto is a big part of moving the
action forward, and Toto does it effortlessly. So I guess
worth one hundred and twenty five dollars a day. And
this is quite possibly one of the most famous urban
legends surrounding the Wizard of Oz. It is probably the
first urban legend I learned about, and maybe something that
contribut did to me having nightmares and negative thoughts around
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the story of the Wizard of Oz and seeing this
as a horror movie. But this is one that actually
didn't happen, and I'll explain why. But the urban legend
is one of the Munchkin actors hung themselves and you
could see it in the background of the movie, and
they left it in because they didn't notice it at
the time. This rumor started when the movie was released
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on VHS in the nineteen eighties, So, like we went
through the history earlier, came out in theaters, wasn't a success,
was shown on TV. Ten years later it was re
released in theaters, and then once VHS became more prominent
in the nineteen eighties, got put on a VHS and
that is where you started to see a lot of
people start to notice things in the background, where if
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ever somebody was making a movie and thought, I'll put
this in the background, nobody will notice it because you
can't pause in a movie theater. Well, once VHS came around,
people were watching things and pausing things at home, and
all these little hidden Easter eggs were starting to be discovered.
So the people who would put hidden messages or hidden things,
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or maybe adult things in the background thinking this is
a joke for me, and nobody else is ever going
to see it, because it's like half a second, it's
one frame. Nobody's ever going to hit Oh, now, you
can hit pause. Now these things are going to be revealed.
So whenever this movie was released on VHS in the eighties,
the rumor was that you saw something in the background
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that appeared to be something swinging down from a tree,
and people were saying that this munchkin hung themselves, that
supposedly they were going through some issues with love and
somebody not loving them back, going through a lot of
hard times, that they hung themselves on set, and that
was all captured on film and made the final cut
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of the movie, which you can't see some mistakes here
and there in The Wizard of Oz. It's not uncommon
you see a mistake get left in the final cut
of a movie. That being that you see this figure
in the enchanted forest during the scene where Dorothy the
Scarecrow and the tin men are singing We're off to
see the Wizard. What is actually going on in the
background is in order to make Awez seem more like
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this magical place, in order to make the forest feel
like it was alive. They had cranes, the animal African cranes,
these wild birds walking around, and you can see that
in other parts of the movie because they wanted it
to feel like the set was alive. And what you
actually see is one of these cranes in the background.
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And when I rewatched this scene on HBO Max, it
wasn't even a question for me, because now the movie
has been restored, it's crystal clear. It doesn't look like
it was made in the nineteen thirties, and you can
tell so clearly now that it is a crane. Now
some people may say, well, they went back and fixed it.
They digitally took out that because they didn't want this
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dark thing associated with the classic movie. But I saw
clear as day this crane that they borrowed from the
Los Angeles Zoo to make the set more authentic. That
higher resolution allows you to see that. But this nineteen
eighties grainy version on VHS that wasn't restored the way
we have it now. I could see if you go
watch it on YouTube, it does look like something swings
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down a little bit, but there's no way that would
make the final cut of a movie. But it is
a good urban legend to have. The claim is also
further disproven because that scene in the forest was actually
filmed months before any scene involving the Munchkins were even shot,
meaning that none of the Munchkin actors were on set
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during that time. So urban legend debunked. So that is
a dark history of the Wizard of Oz. But in
order to not go out on such a low note
talking about death and all these crazy things that happened
on set, here is just the strange coincidence. There is
a coat worn by Frank Morgan, who plays the Wizard
of Ouse and a few other characters in the movie.
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The story is that during the filming of the movie,
the wardrobe department bought a coat from a thrift store
because they needed a coat for the Wizard of Oz.
He also played Professor Marvel, and while filming the movie,
they found the name L. Frank Baum sewn into the
coat's inner lining that Sam L. Frank Baum we were
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talking about earlier that wrote the original Wizard of Oz,
which L. Frank Baum was born on May fifteenth, eighteen
fifty six, in New York and he died on May sixth,
nineteen nineteen in Hollywood, California. He suffered a stroke at
the age of sixty two, so we never got to
see his vision truly come to life in The Wizard
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of Oz in nineteen thirty nine. But what a crazy
coincidence that they went to a thrift store to just
get a coat for the Wizard of Oz and found
out it belonged to the actual author. MGM ended up
contacting his widow, maud Gage Bomb and the Chicago taylor
who made the coat, and they confirmed that it was
authentic and it did belong to him, And the studio
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was just as mind blown as you and I are
right now that they actually kept this quiet because they
thought it would be so unbelievable and that people thought
they were only using it as a publicity stunt, which
they ended up doing eventually. But what a wild coincidence,
And now seeing his movie go on to inspire so
many of their films, and now with Wicked being so
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at the center of pop culture. Now, if they said
this about Wicked and they're like, we wait to go
get this coat for the Wizard of Oz, and can
you believe it that his name was also written in
this one? Then I would start not believing things. But
there it is the dark history of the Wizard of Oz.
Let's get into it now. Oh boy. Spoiler free movie
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review of Five Nights at Freddy's two. This movie was torture.
I feel like if I would have had my head
smashed in with the mallet before going to see this movie,
I would have been joyed it. Because I don't understand
the appeal of this. I really don't. I tried after
I went to go see the first one and came
on here and said, not for me, this movie was bad,
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and I got so much backlash from that of people
saying I never played the game, I don't understand the lore.
I went back and revisited it all, and I thought, Okay,
maybe there's something I missed here. So many people love
this so much that maybe I am the one who
is out of touch and don't understand Five Nights at
Freddy So I was actually going into this movie with
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the good heart. I had a little bit more expectation
now that I understand what this movie was trying to be,
which I wanted the first one to be more of
a horror movie. I thought it was going to be
a little bit scary wasn't that at all, but I
was at least interested by the premise by the characters,
which it's animatronics that come to life. They are haunted.
Josh Hutcherson's character in the first one is a security guard,
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which if you haven't seen the first one going into
this one, you're gonna be a little bit lost because
they do a really bad job at re establishing anything.
They make all these weird like allusions to the first
one that if you didn't see that one, you have
no idea what is going on here, And I thought
maybe in the sequel they could get at least something better,
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something rreat, make it a little bit more scary. The
only good thing about this movie was Matthew Lillard. That's it.
If he wasn't in this movie, I would have left
so irritated. And I wasn't even going to see this movie.
I'll be completely upfront with you. I was going to
go watch SpongeBob, the new SpongeBob movie. I was going
to a screening, which I don't really go to those
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because the movie doesn't come out until this Friday. But
I knew going into the holidays my time was a
little bit limited with traveling that, I was like, Okay,
they're having a Saturday showing at eleven am. I'm gonna
be the only single adult there to go see the
SpongeBob movie. But I love SpongeBob. I went and the
Regal had a power problem, was completely dark. When I
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got there, people outside waiting and they said the screening
was canceled. I was so bummed, but luckily I was like,
I'll go see five minutes at Freddy's too. There happens
to be a showing at another movie theater about fifteen
minutes away. Hit my ticket. I got there right on
time as the last trailer was ending, and I sat
there and watched the movie. So maybe I was a
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little bit not irritated but bummed out going into it
because I wanted to see Patrick and SpongeBob. I even
wore my SpongeBob vans that I haven't woren in a
really long time. I did not get to see that,
and I just could not believe how wooden all the
acting was. It had some of the worst dialogue I
have ever seen. I think, quite possibly my worst theater
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experience ever, because the interactions between all the characters were awful. Awful.
Everybody in this movie was so bad. Josh Hutcheson's character
is insufferable, along with all the adults that live in
this town. And what this movie is about is basically,
there is this big fos fest happening now. There is
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a reason that these animatronics are back, and Josh Hutcherson
is trying to protect his sister in the movie, Abby
from finding out the truth. He's trying to keep these
things from her. You have the love interest from the
first one back. Elizabeth Hale plays Vanessa, who actually enjoyed her.
If the movie was just about her character, maybe I
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would be a little bit more interested. But I could
not believe the interactions between her and Josh Hutcherson's character
in this movie did not make sense whatsoever. There is
a point where I thought, Dude, this girl is so hot,
so out of your league, and you are being awful
to her. If that was me in that situation, I'd
be like, you're so hot, I don't care what you
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tell me. Right now, I'm gonna believe you. Let's go
forget about my sister, Let's go hang out. The teacher.
Abby's teacher in this movie was so insufferable and it
made no sense. The intro was boring and it tried
to be so chilling. And I know this movie is PG. Thirteen,
and I think the message here was supposed to be
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like be nice to your parents or value your parents,
because it makes these weird kind of statements towards adults
and protecting kids. Nothing in this movie landed whatsoever. The
horror elements were bad. The updated animatronics did nothing for me.
I wanted them to take out every adult in this
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town because they were so bad. So maybe it's supposed
to be like inspiration to kids that adults suck, kids rule,
We should listen to kids more. There was no redeeming
quality of this movie. The only thing I am happy
for is that some of these people are getting work
on this scale, Like Josh Hutcherson as a person and
as an actor. I root for him. The announcement of
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him and Jennifer Lawrence returning to The Hunger Games is
exciting to me. I'm just happy he has worked because
after those movies ended, he was like, man, Hollywood really
choose you up and spits you out. I went from
my entire childhood of being able to land every role.
After that, I couldn't get any work. So the only
good thing I could say about this movie is that
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got Josh Hutcherson out of a bad spot and it
gave him some work. But could we get the guy
some better dialogue? Could we get him some better action?
The only interesting sequence was what I have to assume
was the best interpretation they could do of the video game,
where his character actually does something. Of note, this was
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essentially a lifetime horror movie where I don't know who
this is for. I don't understand the purpose of this sequel,
and I think they just killed the franchise altogether by
making another movie. What is going on with Blumhouse? Why
can they not make a good sequel? Look at what
they did to Megan earlier this year. They killed that
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franchise because they took what made the first one great,
the horror elements, the scariness of Megan, leaning in a
little bit to the humor, but still at the core
of that movie, it is a horror movie. Megan two
was so bad. I could not finish it on Peacock.
I just couldn't. I tried two to three times to
finish that, but they thought, Hey, the first one was
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so good. Let's just do whatever we want. Let's not
make it a horror movie anymore. Let's make it an
action movie. Why can they not make a good sequel?
This was supposed to be their flagship franchise. It had
every horror movie trope you can imagine. The one I
hate the most was in this movie. I won't even
say it because I guess it's kind of a spoiler,
but there is a trope that they used in Five
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Nights at Freddy's Two that every Blumhouse movie uses. Does
Jason Blum just come out of his producer chair and say, Hey, guys,
you know what this movie is missing? This trademark thing
that this studio is so proud of. Awful? Was this
movie written with Chad gbt? Because that's what it felt like,
where there was just an answer for everything. All the
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way throughout this movie, I could not believe it. I
won't get into specifics about the plot, but here is
an example of a problem. Within Five Nights at Freddy's Two. Hey,
there's no key to this door. I sure wish I
could get in this door. Oh there's a key over here,
Let's open the door. Now. That was the entire movie.
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Anytime there was a problem or any kind of friction,
there was an easy solution right there waiting in the corner.
That's why I feel that Chad GBT wrote the script
of this movie, because it's like, hey, create a problem,
create a solution. Here's the problem, here's the solution. Oh,
it's so easy. And I don't want to hate on
child actors, so I won't. I don't think it's the
(35:46):
child actor's fault in this movie. It has to be
the direction because some of the weakest performances I've ever
seen on screen. I was so let down and I
don't even know why I had any kind of expectation
going into it. But like I mentioned earlier, I wanted
to go see the SpongeBob movie. I did not get that.
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And the entire time I had that SpongeBob character in
my head. Oh brother, this guy stinks. That is how
I felt from beginning to end. There were moments where
these actors were talking to themselves for no reason. I'm like,
who are they talking to? Overstating things for no reason, like, oh,
that must be where she is? Who are you talking to? Bro? Goodness,
(36:30):
this is hands down my worst in theater experience of
the year. Normally I take some time to collect myself
whenever I get back from watching a movie, but I
sat down immediately. I don't even think I looked at
my notes that I made, Like why do I even
need them? Week Opening The Adults suck worst dialogue Blumhouse
(36:50):
is just bad. Josh Hutchinson's character is a terrible guardian,
like he's supposed to be watching his sister and he's
just awful at that video game s dialogue, which maybe
that is what they got right. It felt like just
cut scenes from a video game, and I just can't
imagine them being on set and delivering this dialogue. Seriously, like,
how did they do that? Did they think there was
a good movie in there? How was this even made?
(37:12):
How has this approved? How did this go out into
the world. I feel so bad for the people who
were actually excited for this movie. And I know people
are gonna sound off in the comments and say how
wrong I am, how boomer I am, how dumb I
am for my opinions on this movie. But I don't
get it. I wish I got it. Do you think
I want to waste my afternoon watching a movie that
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is so bad. The only redeeming thing I can say
is that next time I go back to the theater,
I am going to watch the SpongeBob movie for five
nights at Freddy's. How low can you go? I mean,
I didn't leave. I watched the entire thing. By the
time the credits rolled, I was like, this could not
have come soon enough. At least it was under an
(37:57):
hour and forty minutes for five nights Freddy's. I give
it one out of five animatronics. Get it out of here.
It's time to head down to movie Mike Traylor, Paul
all right, it is time to blind react to the
Supergirl trailer. At the time of recording this, it was
(38:19):
posted on YouTube one hour ago. I literally just got
home from work. I didn't open up Instagram, I didn't
open up TikTok. I didn't want to see a single
second of it until I sat down right now, because
the last time I did this was for the Superman trailer.
I just wanted to give you my raw reaction of
me seeing David Corn sweat in the suit for the
(38:39):
first time. And the only reason I'm moderately excited going
into this one is because I don't know a whole
lot about the Supergirl character and her origins, but I
am curious to know more Millie Adcock is playing Supergirl.
I feel like most people know her from House of Dragon.
I can never get into that show. Sorry out so slow.
(39:01):
I never got through season one. I primarily know her
from Sirens, which was a Netflix show she did with
Megan Fahi that started out really good and interesting and
kind of went nowhere. But the thing I took away
from that show is she is a good actor. There
are a lot of things going on now with Warner
Brothers being bought by Netflix, which James Gunn is saying
that it's not affecting their plans, and then putting out
(39:24):
this trailer now which we did know we were going
to get it before Christmas came that it looks like,
at least now they're going to be separate and we're
not going to see anything too crazy. I wonder if
that is going to change over time, because obviously when
you have these two things merging, Warner Brothers, HBO Max
and Netflix becoming one, what is going to happen. Some
(39:45):
people are worried that it's not going to come out
in theaters. Traditionally some people are saying if Superman came
out straight to streaming, it would have been just as big.
So we'll get into more of that. But now I
want to hit play on this trailer. We'll watch it,
I'll talk about it. I'm looking at the runtime now.
It is two minutes and three seconds, so I'm just
gonna let it run. You'll hear my little commentary in
(40:06):
the background. If something big happens, if we see some
characters that maybe we're not expecting. But we'll watch it together. Here,
I'll come back. I'll get more of my thoughts on
what is going on with DC, how we see this
playing into their first chapter. All right, I'm clicking into it. Now,
turn it up. Let's full screen this thing and let's
(40:27):
watch the Supergirl trailers. Be crypto. Here. I manage to
get most of it on the paper of this sign.
Let's catch up, buddy, Hi, cars are out here by.
(41:00):
It is clear the twenty three will be the best
year at Let's be honest, babe, it's not a very
high Barty clear, I didn't know any of you was
(41:20):
still alive. What was it like, Sluice? Everything in the
day her time didn't die to day gods are not
that kind. Okay, this does not look like this is
gonna end well for you guys. Okay, house like you. No,
(41:55):
it's a pretty small group of two. A vision. He
sees the good in everyone, and I see the truth. Ooh.
The suit he sees the good, She sees the truth. Okay, okay,
(42:23):
all right. A media thing that sticks out to me
is the suit. It looks fantastic just in the thumbnail alone.
It greatly mirrors the David Cornsweat suit, but it stands
out so much of anything we've seen from a female
led superhero movie that that is exciting to me. The
fact that she has the same powers as Superman, and
(42:44):
even what she said in the trailer of Superman sees
the good and everybody she sees the truth, that just
tells you the difference in their personalities. You see what
her character has gone through, why she has troubles with alcohol.
Beginning of this trailer, you see her basically looking dead
in the eyes, lifeless. There's that scene where it looks
(43:05):
like she's sitting down at like a train station or
like a bus station, and you see like the wind
blow in her hair and she just doesn't react. To it.
You just see her shades, which that is a fantastic visual.
And then in this trailer we are learning about her history,
which seems to be pretty dark. She is responding to
the evil things that she has experienced in her life
(43:26):
and the awful things of the gods destroying her home.
In that trailer, we heard them say losing her home
in one day. She's like, no, the gods wouldn't be
that nice. So it seems to be that the people
who destroyed her home did it slow and painfully. And
immediately I'm getting a lot of Guardians of the Galaxy vibes,
(43:47):
which I think anytime you have a character like that
who maybe likes to party a little bit, maybe is
a little bit messy, has a bit of an edge
to them, and you put them in this cosmic universe
that looks very play and while she is so I
don't want to say upbeat, but a little bit comical,
and you see the villains that she is going after
are so serious and big and dead pin and bulky.
(44:11):
There is that contrast that you create that just lends
itself to looking just like what James Gunn did with
the Guardians of the Galaxy movies, and if you're gonna
rip off something, rip off the people who did it
the best, and also rip off the person the director
James Gunn, who knows that universe, which he isn't directing
this movie, but he still has a big hand in
(44:31):
it and can give our director here, Craig Gilepsi, some
insight on that. But I'll go through the YouTube description now.
When an unexpected and ruthless adversary strikes too close to home,
Kara zor l aka Supergirl reluctantly joins forces with an
unlikely companion on an epic interstellar journey of vengeance and justice.
(44:54):
That is what I'm getting the sense of here, where
she starts out maybe not caring about life, not care
about herself, which we see that a bit from her
character in Superman, kind of being one that just kind
of stumbles into a room, doesn't care about timelines, doesn't
care about anything. But just because she doesn't have her
life together does not mean that she is not powerful,
(45:14):
because I know there's going to be that moment in
this movie. We see a little bit here from one
of the fight sequences where she really turns it on,
and that is going to be a moment where heads
start to roll. And not only am I excited for
this movie, I don't want to get too ahead of myself,
but I can't wait until we go next level and
it is Superman and Supergirl fighting together because they contrast
(45:36):
each other so much, where they both come from similar backgrounds.
But maybe it's just one day or how your life
is determined by how you react to situations where if
they both had something really traumatic happen to them, like
their home planet being destroyed, which they are cousins, one
of them reacts in a way like Superman, I'm still
(45:57):
gonna find the good in people. I'm still going to
do what is right, and one of them responds like Supergirl,
who says, no, people are awful and I want to
expose the truth in people, and it exposed them for
the true villains that they actually are. I am gonna
go out and defeat those people. I can't wait to
see those two forces join up and start beating people
(46:18):
up together and having differences in how to go about
doing these things. I would have to imagine Superman has
a no kill policy. He's not gonna kill anybody. He'll
hurt people, he'll throw people every now and then if
he gets really mad. Someone tells me Supergirl wouldn't mind
seeing some people go down and maybe doesn't have those
(46:38):
same morals of it really awful. I'm gonna kill you.
But alongside Lily Adcock as Supergirl, we also have Jason
Momoa is gonna be in this movie. He is gonna
be Lobo, who is an alien mercenary and a bounty
hunter from another planet. Alongside this cast you also have
supergirls father, Supergirl's mother. We didn't get any unexpected that cameos.
(47:01):
I don't think David Cornsweat is going to be in
this movie at all, even though in this trailer you
do see her or at least in front of her
a newspaper, so she is still getting news stories about
her cousin doing good things, about him stopping a nuclear
reactor and also saving cats and trees, so he's still
saving the little animals, but her, on the other hand,
(47:23):
is still a cynical drunk. Supergirl in this movie is
also going to be twenty three years old, so that
also gives you kind of a state of mind, or
at least where she is in her brain development and
how a twenty three year old with superpowers would act
in the situation, and I think that is great, that
is important. I think we haven't seen a character like
this in a really long time, especially one to have
(47:45):
such a big movie coming out that is really going
to be one of the major tent poles of DC
and Warner Brothers next year. We got to look at
our villain, Krem, who is going to be the main
protagonist in this movie. Aside from the suit, I really
love it. They actually showed her heat vision in this,
which is something I wish we would have had a
little bit more of in Superman. There's a lot of flying,
(48:06):
but I need more heat vision. And I also imagine
at the very beginning of this and throughout the trailer,
they kind of hint towards something not great happening to Crypto.
I don't even want to say it, because I think
he was a big part of the comedic relief and
just the heart aside from Superman of course, but something
that I think a lot of people were drawn to
(48:27):
in that first movie. If they wanted to go next
level and do something memorable but tragic, I have to
imagine it is going to be pulling in our heartstrings
and something happening to Crypto. I don't want to see that,
But this is a character who has already dealt with
a lot of loss by losing her home. If they
take away Crypton, could they take away Crypto? I think
(48:50):
I just love that level of cynicism. And maybe it's
just because I'm becoming a little bit more cynical as
I grow older. I kind of see it from her
perspective of having a cynical outlook on the world, especially
when destructive things are going on at this level. I'm in.
I'm all about it. Supergirl is coming out next year
on June twenty sixth, twenty twenty six. Thanks for joining
(49:11):
me on this blind reaction. And that was this week's
edition of Movie Li Famer Bar and that is going
to do it for another episode of the podcast. But
before I go, I got to give my listeners shout
out of the week. This week, I'm shouting out my
buddy Sean Stenson, who tagged me on his Instagram story
that I was his most listened to podcast of twenty
(49:31):
twenty five. So appreciate that. Sean. Shawn and I actually
go way back, I think to maybe two thousand and five,
two thousand and four. The fact that that was twenty
years ago now about it be twenty one years ago
is wild. But Sean and I were both members of
the Alkalan Trio fan Club back in the day. I
still remember the day I got in the mail my
(49:52):
official fan club card. I still have it in my wallet.
It's kind of broken into pieces now, But there was
a core group of people that I only knew from
the internet, and Sean was one of those people who
I've kept up with now over the years, and I
think we've only met and hung out once. And I'll
be honest, Sean, seeing you tag me in your story,
that was the first time I even knew you listened
(50:14):
to this podcast. So thank you for making your number
one podcast and telling other people about the show. So
really appreciate that. If I made anybody else's top podcast
of the year, tag me in those stories and I'll
repost those and make you next week's listener shout out
of the week. So thank you all for listening, whether
you listen on release days, which is Monday, or if
(50:34):
you listen on the weekend when he gets added to
the Bobby Bone Show feed, I appreciate you, And until
next time, but make sure you're subscribed. That way, you
get brand new episodes every single Monday, and you get
them right when they come out overnight. So thank you
for being subscribed, and until next time, go out and
watch good movies and I will talk to you later
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