Mike D sits down with Producer Eddie of the Bobby Bones Show + Sore Losers Podcast. They both just read Matthew McConaughey’s new book “Greenlights” and discuss his career in movies. Mike and Eddie also talk about how the movie La Bamba influence their lives as Mexican-American’s. Plus a movie review of “Our Friend” starring Jason Segel, Dakota Johnson, Casey Affleck, Jake Owen which in select theaters and at home on demand on January 22, 2021
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I
am movie Mike on Twitter and Instagram at Mike Destro.
First of all, I'm gonna sit down with producer Eddie,
who I work with on The Bobby Bones Show, who's
also a member of the Sore Losers, and we're gonna
be talking all about the evolution of Matthew McConaughey as
an actor. We both just read his book called Green Lights.
(00:20):
Then Eddie and I will also get into how important
the movie La Bamba was to us as Mexican Americans,
which during that part of this episode, I felt like
we kind of had this connection we never realized we
had before. And then later on I'll be joined by
my co host and fiance Kelsey. We just got an
early look at the movie called Our Friend. With all
(00:41):
that said, let's get started. In a world where everyone
and their mother has a podcast, one man stands to
infiltrate the ears of listeners like never before in a
movie podcast, a man with so much movie knowledge, he's
basically like a walking Audi MTV with's Glide from the
(01:01):
Natural Podcast Network Movie Movie Podcast. All right, I am
joined now by Eddie from the Sore Losers work with
you on the Bobby Bones Show. We are both Mexican,
that's right, and we both just read Matthew McConaughey's book,
which this is a movie podcast, but I thought it
would be kind of cool to just look at the
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evolution of Matthew McConaughey. Yes, because that's just crazy to me,
how he went from being like the romcom guy to
being the best actor that we know now. I think
after reading the book, it was crazy to me that
coming from a guy who really wanted to be a
lawyer first, didn't really know what he wanted to do
in life, to becoming a successful actor. You know, acting
(01:43):
is not easy, man like, but I guess to him
it just came natural, because he even says at the
beginning of his career he didn't have to try that
hard to become the actor later in life he did
because he took on more challenging character. I want to
start there, like, after reading this book, were you in
any bit like inspired to think that you could act?
Because I was reading and I was like, dude, I
(02:04):
think I could like figure this out. I've always thought
that I can act, you know, like even from when
I was young, but especially after reading this book, I
felt like I can act. And I'll even add to that,
reading the book and kind of how he got to
start in film was interesting to me. You know. Um
he talks about meeting the producer who was the casting
(02:25):
at the time, casting for days and confused, he didn't
know what he was doing. He was in Austin going
to film school, I think, and his friend was a
bartender at a hotel, and he just goes to the
hotel and has drinks with his friend who's probably giving
him free drinks. And and while he's there, the bartender
and his friend says, hey, man, I meant to tell
you this guy right here. He comes in every night
(02:45):
he's in town because he's casting or producing a movie.
You may want to talk to him. So at that
point McConaughey is like, hey, alright, alright, let me start
talking to this dude and get in with him. He
gets really drunk and gets kicked out of the bar,
and at that point McConaughey says, hey, this is my
chance to get in with this guy. I'll get kicked
out of the bar with him. We'll end up in
(03:07):
the same cab together and we'll talk about the role
or whatever, or me trying to get into his movie,
which that's exactly what happened. At the end of the
car the cab ride, this producer guy's like, hey, man,
come by the office in the morning. I think I
might have a spot free in the movie we're doing
here in Austin. And that's Waterson. So to me, it's like,
that's the kind of stuff that happens, Like how I
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joined the Bobby Bones Show randomly interviewing Bobby Bones at
a steam clean William Hung event means I meet Bobby,
who becomes who is already a little radio host in
Austin but becomes a national radio host, wants me to
come with him, And it's like, that's crazy, how all
these big things start from a little meeting, like in
McConaughey's case at a hotel bar, you know, where his
(03:52):
friend bartended. I thought that was just an amazing store,
and how he got in and then from there he
goes to being on the set, And what I found
just kind of fast sinating was how he approached like
finding the character and kind of his whole thing throughout
his career is like finding his guy, like kind of
man calls him like figuring out why his character would
do certain things, how he would go about playing a
(04:14):
certain person, and almost like learning that more than he
like focuses on like learning lines. Yeah, he I think
confesses many times he didn't even really read the script.
He just knew his man going in. And there was
that one case where he was like, you know what,
I'm not even going to read the lines for this
to study for it, and I'm just gonna go and
knowing the guy, he turns the page and it's all
(04:34):
in Spanish. It's like this couldn't really pay off. I
think at that point he says, I'm the twelve minutes,
learned Spanish in twelve minutes. But he the other thing,
he went to school at the University of Texas in Austin,
and he started he was going to be a lawyer,
(04:55):
like you said, and then switched to doing film. What
was interesting to me was that he reference like in
his film class that like his other he didn't really
fit in that class, like he was kind of the
jot guy and everybody else was like a total film nerd.
And while they were all going to like art houses
to watch all these like really artistic movies. He was like, dude,
I'm want to go watch die Hard, Like that's a
(05:15):
great movie. And I feel like I've always kind of
had that balance of like I love big blockbuster movies,
but I do a movie podcast, so I like watch everything,
but these are always my favorite movies, and he kind
of like stood up for them in a way, like, Hey,
you can like these movies and still be into film
when it comes to like when you sit down and
watch something, what do you look for. Do you want
(05:36):
to watch like something that you totally disconnect from and
just kind of take his like, Okay, that was fun,
eight some popcorn to watch that movie, or do you
like to really dive in and learn something in a movie? Both?
You know, I think it really depends on how I'm
feeling or what's on at the time. Sometimes, you know,
I don't really look for movies a lot. I kind
of scan channels and if something starts and I'm like, oh,
(05:57):
that's cool, I like that actor, I like that actress,
and just watch it for a couple of minutes. Never
seen this movie. Next thing, you know, I'm watching the
whole thing and I'm crying at the end. I love
that experience because I didn't really go out seeking dude.
My wife and I were get into bed and it's
like nine o'clock, the kids are all asleep, and we're like, hey,
let's start a movie, and we look and do We
search for an hour and a half for a movie,
(06:17):
and at that point we're like, I'm ready for bed,
and we end up watching nothing. So to me, it's
just kind of getting surprised. I like the I'm like McConaughey,
I like the real, real pop culture stuff, and I
do like the ones that no one's ever seen. And
then really getting excited about a movie like that too,
is pretty cool. So he's going throughout his career he
has days and confused, and then he's kind of just
(06:39):
like taking kind of odd acting jobs before he moved
to Los Angeles. And then what I also felt I
kind of learned from this is like why he is
such a great actor, Like he went out and experienced
things that sound insane to me to be able like
to take time away from your life to go to
another country just to like go to German Men eat,
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Like I feel like that really shaped how he kind
of was able to be such an interesting person to
be able to play such interesting characters later in his life. Yeah,
I agree with that. I mean, he definitely a lot.
Reading this book, I felt anxiety for the things that
he was doing the Amazon trip. I felt anxiety over
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not know like not knowing what he was doing there,
who he was with when the guys wrecked the bike
in Germany. Yeah, that that that would have totally stressed
me out, and I would have quit, called my parents
and gotten back home, you know, Like, but that that's
that's him. That's how he lived lives life with with
let's just see what happens mentality and we'll all we'll
figure it out. The part to me that stresses me
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out is just going to anywhere for an extended period
of time and then like knowing you have a place
back home they had to pay rent on. But he
just has like this approach where he's like, you know what,
I had a dream. I saw this in my dream.
I'm going to go accomplish that. He had a dream
of floating naked in the Amazon, finding some guy a
couple of times and getting eaten by like river sharks
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and all sorts of stuff. And he's like, I'm gonna
chase that dream like, are you crazy? What do you mean?
I had a dream where like I was naked too
and this guy was robbing me. I'm not gonna go
try to get robbed. I just woke up like weird dream,
alright and move on? Yeah, and what was weird too?
He's kept calling it wet dreams? And I was like,
is he serious? Did he really have one of those?
And he was And he goes into detail too, just
like I'm talking about the wet dreams We don't really
(08:29):
think I'm talking about. Did you also read the book
in his voice sometimes? Course, of course you can't help
but read a lot of it in his voice. So
then he does that movie Rain of Fire, which is
kind of his last one before he's like, you know what,
I'm starting to be type cast as a certain kind
of person. He done like how it was a guy
in ten Days, he was like the romcom guy kind
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of took over after Hugh Grant, like that was kind
of his role because at that point he was just
taking whatever Hollywood defeat him because he had made it. Yeah,
and he quote unquote made it making money doing all that.
But then he's like, you know what, Like I want
to do something that challenged me, challenges me a little
bit more. And there was those twenty months that no calls,
(09:12):
didn't take anything. Yeah, he had to make the decision
to tell Hollywood no, no, no, it's no longer what
you want me to do. I'm telling you this is
what I'm going to do. And they were really ten months,
like you said, we're really like fine, big shot. It's
just crazy how like you can establish such a career
(09:33):
having all these movies, but it feels like you're maybe
like two calls or two little instances away from losing
that all, like totally being cut off from Hollywood and
someone like Matthew McConaughey to be like, all right, your
career is done if you don't say yes to something soon.
But also cool about it is that he did talk
about in the book that he did check with his finances.
(09:56):
He checked with his accountant and said, hey, before I
do this, how much time do I have? You know? Like,
and that to me is great to put in the
book because you can't be telling everyone like, hey, take
your stance, man, do whatever you want and don't worry
they'll follow. Not really true, like make sure you're covered
until you do it, which is what he did because
(10:17):
he got that offer where I think they offered him
ten million first, and he said no, and he just
kept saying no, and it got a movie. Was that
he never I don't think you ever said, but it
got up to fourteen point five minutes. Let me read
that again. We read that script again. I thought that
part he's like, and the script was way better than
the first time I read it. So he's one of
the really few actors that I know haven't who have
(10:39):
like not so much rebranded himself, but kind of unbranded
himself from being that guesting. He went those twenty months
without taking anything, and then he started doing movies like
Mud Killer Joe Mud Sucks. Yeah, he loves MUDs so much,
and he talks about it being his favorite movie and
the one movie that was aid for him. I'm like, dude,
(11:01):
that's the one movie I just don't like. I think
he just had to get something different under his belt
for a while, and I think he felt like that
would kind of define that transition period. But I agree,
if you're going to go back and watch his like
transition movies, I don't think that's a great one. But
then he he first read the script for Dallas Buyers
Club in two thousand seven, which is also crazy how
long it takes for a movie to get made from
(11:22):
where it's just a script to when there's a director
attached to it, to winners an actor attached to it.
And what usually happens for movies to get made is
there'll be a big name actor attached to it and
they're like, Okay, that kind of legitimizes the whole thing.
Like whenever they were making Elf that took a long
time to make, but they had Will Ferrell attached to it.
They're like, Okay, this will get made eventually. So that's
(11:43):
kind of what happened with Dallas Buyers Club two thousand seven.
First draft, they want to take Matthew McConaughey off for
the first director, but then eventually they find the guy
who will do it with Matthew McConaughey and he does this,
which is Jared Letto, who's that he's the other actor
in the movie. Okay, yeah, but they found a different
director to do it, and for this movie, he took
(12:05):
away less than he had ever taken before and it
really paid off, because I mean, this is kind of
the movie that I really know him for now, huge
role and that was is that his first Academy award,
first one for Best Accurate First Academy Award. I think
the movie was nominated for a lot of Academy Awards.
(12:26):
I mean it was a huge, huge movie for and
they shot the entire thing in twenty five days, only
cost four point nine million to make, which maybe like
five thousand is what was given to him. That's just
such a big risk to take to be like, Okay,
I'm gonna do this movie. I believe in it so much,
and then to go to extremes just to prepare for
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this role, which you've been talking about on the Bobby
Bones Show. You were inspired to do with the diet,
which he talks about how sharp his mind got from
doing that diet. So when you're reading that, why did
that kind of stick out to you something you wanted
to try. I think the first thing, the first time
I thought about it was early in the book when
he's talking about living in Australia. He was a foreign
(13:08):
exchange student with a family, and he was extremely unhappy there.
So he decided to eat let us with catchup for
like I don't know, months, months of just let us
and catch up for breakfast, and he said, man, I
lost so much away, but I look good, you know.
And I was just like, let us and catch up.
That's terrible. But that did not interest me. Then when
(13:29):
he talked about the determination it took for him to
lose fifty pounds in such a short period of time,
and I looked at he. I mean, he shared his
his diet, and I'm thinking, I kind of want to
try that one, just to see if he's full of
crap or not. And two, hey, man, if I can
lose not fifty pounds, Mike, but if I can lose
(13:52):
like ten pounds in a few months, let's give it
a shot. I want to see what that's like. It's
an insane diet. And I mean I was picturing him
eating the lettuce with the kitchen, I know. And it
feels like all the stories he tells about this could
almost be like a mini movie in themselves. So I
think if somebody wanted to read this book and you
(14:13):
don't really know a whole lot about him, but you're
looking for something that has like kind of it's almost
it's pretty easy to read, and it has like these
quick little digest stories that you're like, Okay, that was
pretty interesting and I kind of see how he took
all of this into being the person that he Isn't sure,
so if you had a favorite Matthew McConaughey movie, now,
what would it be? Oh? I mean, my favorite favorite
(14:36):
favorite is Days of Confused. I mean, I'm just gonna
have to go with the classic. But honestly, dude, before
I read this book, I did not know that that
was so so early in his career. Yeah. You you
would think that was like his biggest movie at like
the height of his career. But that's the first thing
he had, his first hit, his first first real acting gig.
And he talks about how the first thing he ever
said on film was the line alright, alright, alright, and
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the fact that he that character Waterson wasn't even a
character really in the script. He didn't have any lines.
He was just the old dude that drove the car,
you know, But he made it into a character that
they're gonna he's gonna be a big part of this movie,
and everyone remembers him as just keep on living, you know,
just keep v in. Do you find you like him
more after reading this book way more. I mean, dude,
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I had met him a handful of times when I
lived in Austin, and it was very short and very
standoffish and very you you're not important to me kind
of feeling. And I wasn't. I mean, I was not
nothing to him. You know, that's just a person on
the street. But but I always felt like, I don't
like that feeling of like that just kind of getting
blown off by Matthew McConaughey every single time, you know,
(15:44):
so like I never paid attention to him. I watched
his movies just because maybe it was on, but not
because I watched it because Matthew McConaughey was in the movie.
Never a fan like that. After reading this though, I
just kind of started thinking and and and trying to
maybe make this as a goal for myself to never
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judge people before you even get a chance to know him.
Because and not that I know matthe mconaughey after reading
this book, but I know I know more about him,
And after reading you know, three pages, more than just
meeting him three times on the street, I get to
know really the person that I was meeting on the
street more than just oh yeah, dude, I know your
(16:25):
face from the movies, Like, dude, he was. He's really deep. Yeah,
he's a deep thinker, you know, And I would have
never got that from him. Yeah, maybe if I paid
more attention to the Lincoln commercials. He's a deep thinker.
But really, before that, I thought it was just a
dumb meat head who had just acted stupid. And I
guess I didn't really know like how big of a
(16:46):
celebrity and how big of an actor he is because,
like you, I lived in Austin too, and he was
kind of just like the local celebrity. That's how that's
how I pictured him, like, oh, it's like Matthew McConaughey
had a Longhorns game. But kind of reading this and
seeing like how famous he was, he couldn't go places,
he couldn't go places, and he would like drive out
to places to kind of I mean, even when he
(17:06):
went to the Amazon, there was like somebody who was
a fan of him. So it was kind of put
it into perspective just how big beyond everything else he is,
and it kind of made me respect him a little bit.
Me too, man, I'm a fan now, I'm a fan.
I follow him on Instagram. Follow his wife on Instagram. Yeah,
I started. I'm a fan of his. I think if
there was one thing I would do from this book
(17:29):
that he did was how he when he drove it
in that van and he would just record his thoughts.
He set up like that microphone and basically this entire
book was that transcribed. I thought that was pretty interesting that. Um, yeah,
Matthew McConaughey. Who I thought that there was one thing
he I think he's in the Amazon or maybe Africa,
(17:49):
because was he in the He did a Nile trip too, right,
I may have been Africa when he was there. He
had he found a guide. Again. The way he finds
these guys is like I just showed up, man, and
I found I found him, and and he ends up
spending you know, weeks with this guy or whatever. But
he's with two guys and they have some sort of
argument about something, and he he tries to he tries
(18:12):
to understand what they're arguing about, and then he finally
picks a side between the two guys arguing and then
he says, now, man, I think I think so and
so is right, And they both turned around and said no, no, no,
you're not understanding. No one is right. You just have
to understand both points of the argument. And then he
(18:32):
puts in there, mcconagey boys, America can learn something from this,
you know, like, and it hit me right straight to
the brain. I was like, huh, I should learn something
about this, Like that's right. I'm always just like that's
not right. Oh that's there, we go, you nailed it.
But no, it's understanding both sides of an argument. And again,
nothing to do with movies. But McConaughey is weird, deep deep,
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deep mind brought this up, and I thought, that's really
the one thing I got out of this book that
really is going to stick with me for a while.
I think, well, the book is called green Lights, and
I gotta confess that when I first posted that I
had read this book and we were gonna do a
podcast together, people thought I was getting Matthew McConaughey on.
Oh hey, how's it going? So there we go. Let
me tell you some back. I wrote this book straight
(19:15):
from the heart. Alright, Okay, I do want to do
one more segment with you, if you can hang around.
I want to talk about the movie La Bamba, Hey,
come on, a movie that I think you're the only
person who can identify the same way that I do
with this movie. Come on, so we'll get into that next.
Sounds good. Yeah, here's America's newest rock and roll sensation,
(19:42):
the California kid Ritchie. There's a bit of a rall
snake la all right. So I want to talk about
the movie La Bamba, which we've told Bobby many times
to watch the this movie he's never watched, and it's
(20:02):
a story about Richie Vallens. But yeah, this dude will say, Hey,
go watch this dumb documentary about an octopus, and we're
all like, and I didn't watch that one, but I
guess it's a Mexican thing, is it? Because I was
thinking of Like, when I make my list of movies,
this one always ends up in the top five, And
I think it's because the first time I watched it,
(20:22):
it was me seeing somebody who looked like me on
the big screen, and it's very rare to see a
Mexican actor or a Mexican story for trade. But aside
from that, one of my favorite kind of genres is
biopics and also ones that take place back in the day.
So this has everything kind of set up for me,
(20:42):
But for you, what is it about this movie that's
kind of that you identify with the same thing? I mean,
the exact same thing. There's a guy on on a move.
I mean I was a huge movie fan growing up.
I loved movies. My brother and I would go to
a bunch of movies, Star Wars fans, Indiana Jones, all
the I mean, we just loved the movie. So to
see a Mexican on the screen, not knowing his musical
(21:05):
story was really inspiring to say. And I've always been
the type of person to be like, I want to
be that, and that's what I'm gonna go for in life.
And you know, like everything about him, everything about him
in the movie I related to I. You know, like
when you're in elementary school and you lie to people
and say you have a girlfriend that goes another school.
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I lied and said I had had a girlfriend named
Donna schoolide town because Richie, did you know, Like, that's
what it was for me. I'm with you exactly the same.
I think. The other thing about this movie is that
it presents Mexican culture in a way that's not overly
presenting Mexican culture. If that makes sense because I feel
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when either a TV show or a movie is made
about a Mexican family, they over emphasize the Mexican qualities
to be like, Okay, this is a Mexican family. They
like make a point to be like, this is my
ulita and we are making this for dinner, like very
like intertwining Mexican themes and Mexican things to make it
a Mexican movie. But in this one, it kind of
(22:06):
just shows how Mexicans in that time we're living in
the United States. How I mean, he didn't even really
speak Spanish, and I feel a lot of that like
for me, like growing up, like my parents only spoke
Spanish and they learned how to speak English from watching TV.
But by the time it got to me, I was
kind of in that in between of them only speaking
(22:28):
Spanish to me but me learning English for the first time,
which was what Ritchie Allen's was. He was singing lavamba
when he could barely hold a conversation in Spanish. Yeah,
you know, I had a that makes me think of
I had a very awakening moment like right after college
is I had made it, I had made some you know,
college movies or whatever, and we had we had entered
(22:49):
the Medican film festivals. Me and this girl, I was
the kind of DP director of director of photography and
she had written the script and we both co directed
and it was just a school project and we made it.
And then we submitted into a bunch of film festivals
and there was one in particular in South Texas that
accepted it. I'm from South Texas, and I was like,
(23:09):
this is amazing that they're accepting this. It's called Senid.
They're sold. And uh. We go down there to to
show our our movie, to screen our movie, and the
director for LaBamba is also there too, so so I
get to meet him at the festival and he said, hey, man,
I'm having a party back at my condo. Come back,
(23:29):
come back with with us. I'm like, cool, all right, dude.
So I'm like, do not geek out about LaBamba with
this guy. He's not he's not even here for a
Labama He's not. He's doing a completely different movie. So
we got to hang out with him. I even forget
his and it was Valdez is his last name, but
I don't really remember his first name. But we hung out,
we talked or whatever, and I went home that night,
and I thought to myself, exactly what you're saying, Like,
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how as a Hispanic kid, am I gonna be able
to succeed in this world also carrying my culture with me,
but also having relationships with people that are not Hispanic,
which I think he did very well, which maybe had
to do with making the movie that way. You know,
it is making an Hispanic cultured filled film like that
(24:17):
and presented to the whole world, and not making also
to the whole world feel like they don't know what
that culture is. Oh that's so different. Oh that's not
for us, that's the that's for Mexican people. Know, it
was for everyone. The story of Richie Allen's like you said,
he didn't know any English, he didn't know Spanish, he
just knew English. So I feel like I had that
moment too in life when I met Mr Valdez and
(24:39):
things like oh, man, like that is very important to
not over culturalize our Hispanic culture into whatever we do
in the future, which why sometimes on the Bobby Bones
Show people are just like Eddie's the least Mexican dude.
I'm not. I've just really really dedicated a lot of
my life to understand the culture that I'm a part
of because I'm not in South Texas anymore. If was,
(25:00):
I would still be like, ha, come on like that.
I think the other thing I remember watching a making
of this movie with the director and he talked about
how he wanted to make it at the very bottom
line of the movie a story about brothers. So essentially
the whole movie is a story about his brother Bob
and Ritchie. Their relationship is really what kind of makes
(25:23):
this such an impactful movie. Why you do learn his
story all about his career, what makes like the emotional
attachment is learning about them as brothers. So I think
that's another way he kind of made it to not
so much focus on like this is away a Mexican story,
right yeah, um yeah, definitely I love that story. I
mean again, you talk, you talk about this movie just
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being a movie or whatever, but it's it really is
a big part of our life. And I remember my
brother to telling me, you know, when we were growing up,
I feel like I'm Bob and you're Richie. And it's
like when when you're using little examples of like that
from a movie be that we grew up watching, that's
how impactful it was in our lives. I mean I
had the same thing in my brother, like we kind
of parallel Ritchie and Bob in certain ways. And I
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think even like other cousins I have, like you see
that same kind of thing, like the older brother going
one way and the younger brother chasing other dreams. I
think that also resonates. And you don't even have to
be Mexican. Favorite line from the movie, oh come on,
I mean the big one is Richie, of course rich
but I might have to go with let me see. Oh,
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I mean we always quote you and me every time
we're in the studio. We always quote um uh woody
would buzz buzzard. I mean, there's so many. This is
one of those movies to where it's just worked its
way into my vocabulary, Like I will just quote things
and I realize I'm quoting La Bamba, like whenever they
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go play that bar for the first time and he's like,
this one's out a loving Texas, Texas. Like stuff like
that is just embedded in my brain where I just
say it and it's from La Bamba. Now, are you
like me? Where after you saw the movie, you bought
the soundtrack and then after you had the soundtrack, you
sort of researching who really sang all these songs and
(27:16):
and then really going down the Richie Valens catalog. Yeah,
I did that. That's kind of how I got into
like liking Buddy Holly, like in the movie that song
and crying Open, like that's one of my favorite songs,
Buddy Holly, mainly because of the movie, and it kind
of made learned about the Big Bopper and just kind
of that genre and that time of music. But it's
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it's interesting. I know, man, I have a Ritchie Valens
record back home and I listen to it all the time,
and the original Richie valence and it's it's very cool. Man.
I love telling my kids the story, and you just
reminded me from talking about this in the podcast, like
I will watch that. I want to watch that movie
with my kids, so because I mean, I grew up
in McAllen, Texas, South South Texas, seven miles of the border,
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and my kids have never seen that. Even my twelve
year old, he's never been down there. I've haven't lived
down there in years, so I've had no reason to
go down there. But I want to take him down
there to show them, show them my roots, but I
think before I do that, I'm gonna show them La Bamba.
There you right, well, appreciate you hanging out on this episode.
I encourage everybody listening. If you haven't seen La Bamba,
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learned the story, start quoting new with us. Yeah, it's
a great movie to watch. Thanks Eddie bringing out Man. Yeah, dude,
thanks for having me Man. All right, let's get into
a movie review now, joined by my fiance and co
host Kelsey. We're gonna be talking about the movie Our Friends,
starring Jason Segal, Dakota Johnson, Casey Affleck, and Jake Owen.
Before we get into that review, here's a little bit
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of the trailer. Can we talk for a minute, Matt,
it's goooling to get very hard going to see things
from Nicole you never seen before. You need to do
this alone, can't help you get to the other side
of this. How long did I'm hoping just a couple
of weeks. I just want to make sure Mac gets
back on his feet. I usually make breakfast and dinner
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and you can take some of that weight off. Speaking
of us, hoping you'd call me Grandma Jane, excuse me, sure,
I'll call you, Grandma Jane, Thank you. All right. So
I've been waiting for this movie to come out for
a while now. I think I first heard of it
maybe like two years ago. Jac Owen came in and
he was on the Bobby Bones Show saying like, Hey,
I'm gonna be in a movie. And since then I've
been following along this movie. It was called The Friend
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at the very beginning and now it's called Our Friend,
and it's basically a movie based on an article which
I thought was interesting. And the thing about this movie is,
I feel this was a pretty sad movie. Now, recently,
we've watched some movies that have made us emotional, but
I think it's been a while since I've watched a
movie that just made me sad, Like as close as
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I got to like genuinely crying, is what I feel
this movie was. How did you feel about the emotional
level of this movie? Oh, it was sad, And I
had watched the trailer, but I don't think I fully
processed how sad it was going to be. And then
we were about like fifteen twenty minute and I was like, Oh,
this is gonna be sad. From the trailer, you find
out what it's about and without spoiling any of it,
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which I mean, it is a true story, but I
feel there's some things that come out to play that
we won't talk about. But overall, it's about a mom
who gets diagnosed with cancer and she finds out it's
terminal and then it's the whole family dealing with it,
which I thought that's exactly what the whole movie was
going to be about. But I think where it kind
of stands apart from other movies is it's really about
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Jason Siegel's character and how much he steps up as
a friend and how much he kind of helps him
get through it and like his struggles throughout the movie.
So I think that's a part of the story that
hasn't been told in something like this before. So how
did you feel about this movie? I thought it was
really good. I really enjoyed it. I mean, it was
(30:49):
two hours long, but didn't feel like two hours, except
there was one point where we positive it was like, oh,
I still have an hour left to be sad. It
is a pretty good emotional roller coaster because not only
are you with seeing how the cancer is affecting her
throughout Dakota Johnson's character, But I mean from their kids
in the movie to how they're just trying to like
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spend as much time with her before she passes. They
essentially say she's gonna have six months to live and
it's all going from that. So there's a lot that
I've just never really knew about. So it was kind
of for me like, oh man, this is a lot
to go through, and you realize how much cancer sucks
and how much of an emotional toll it is, and
it does just make you sad, right, Yeah, And I
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thought it was a really good portrayal of like all
of the emotions of like a diagnosis like that and
just them kind of walking through all of that. And
I thought Jason Siegel's character was amazing. Yeah, I thought
it was really good. He was my favorite part of
this movie. We know him mostly as you know, doing
the early mid two thousands, just comedic stuff. He mean,
(31:56):
kind of a goofy guy, which I think he kind
of is in this movie. He's the comedic relief and
kind of like the the fun guy to be around.
But also it just shows like how even those kind
of people have another side of them of things they're
they're dealing with. And he really just puts his life
on pause in this movie, and he does a really
(32:16):
good job at it. Like he was very convincing to
where I didn't think of him as being the goo
by Jason Segel, right, I like lost track of him
being kind of the funny guy. Yeah. Who. What do
you think about the cast overall? I think it's pretty interesting,
Like I really wanted to watch it because Jake Owen's
in it, who I wanted to see how he would
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do as an actor. And if I had one criticism
with the movie, it's like he wasn't in it enough. Yeah,
he could have been in it more like I would
have enjoyed Oh yeah, I would have liked seeing him
more throughout the movie. I'd say total, he's in about
three scenes, So if there was anything, I just wanted
more of his character in it. But I kind of
get it compared to like where he was in the story.
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But I thought this was a pretty interesting cast because
Casey aff like what did he do just sad movies?
And in Dakota Johnson. I just thought overall it's pretty eclectic.
So I thought that was an interesting pick for everybody.
How did you feel after we watched this movie sad, right, Yeah,
you made us watch Toy Story, So I think if
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you're gonna watch this movie, it's pretty sad, but it's
I don't know, like some of the other stuff we
watched recently. It's like emotional and sad, but it's also uplifting.
Do you think there's had any kind of uplifting parts
to it or is it just gonna like if you
want to watch something to make you cry, I feel
like if you just want to feel your fields, Like
for every everyone listening, if you've seen My Sister's Keeper
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with Cameron Diaz about her daughter that has cancer similarly sad,
I would say it would be my comparison, like there's
not really necessarily a silver lining to the movie, yeah,
which I was kind of expecting, but I get it's
a real life. Yeah, it was a true story, so
it wasn't wrapped up with a bow. Yeah. I feel
like it was hand like the movie itself like told
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the story. Well. Yeah, And that's one of the big
things I feel like with a movie like that about
and just cancer in real life, is that like there
is a life like after and I I don't feel
like the movie got to that as much, but it
kind of showed them like having to go on and
move forward. And I guess the one kind of silver
lining of it is if you have those kind of
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people in your life who have been around you through
the good times and through the really hard times, if
you watch this and maybe you're like, oh, this is
kind of like this person in my life, it makes
you want to text all your friends. And So, if
you had to give this movie a rating, what would
you give it four and a half out of five.
I can't think of a rating system. I can't think
of anything that was like a little like I don't
hope we could pick something out. I would give it
(34:44):
a solid four out of five. I think it's I
thought the acting was really good. You can just tell,
like within like the first scene, that it's going to
be a good movie. It kept me invested all the
way through. And yeah, it got me emotionally, like the
closest I've been to like legit crying. I looked over
several points in you were just experienced. Some of it
is just very hard to take, and mainly when it
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has to do with anything dealing with the kids, that's
that's a hard part. But It's in theaters and select
theaters starting on Friday. You can get it on demand
wherever you rent movies if you want to check that out.
So that is a review of the movie Our Friend.
We're gonna get into now some movie news, which I
wanted to bring something you kind of mentioned earlier into
movie news. It wasn't a story anything put out, but
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something I just realized is that a lot of the
Disney Pixar movies on Disney Plus are digitally remastered, which
I don't think a lot of people will realize that
I didn't really know. And after we watched Our Friend,
I was like, I need a palate cleanser, Like I
need something to make me feel good again. So we
watched Toy Story, and from when the movie started, I
was like, this looks completely different. Yeah, you kick out
(35:50):
a little. It was fascinating, like I was seeing details
in this movie that I hadn't seen before. And you
could really like the aimes on like games in the background.
You could see like other little details and like the
characters like Woody's hair has like these other little color
imprints on them. And I found out that when they
put these movies on Disney Plus, they went in and
(36:12):
digitally remastered I think twelve of them, and all the
toy stories are included. Because if you think about it,
these movies came out when this technology was like straight
up brand new. The first one. They were just realizing
like how to do all these things, and it's you
can't really go back and reanimate everything again. We can
go back and kind of make it look brighter and
(36:34):
do all the things they do to remaster the movies.
But I would say, if you want to go back
and like, haven't seen these movies in a while, right now,
to see them on Disney Plus, it's pretty cool you
can see things you haven't seen before. And I feel
like even kids now who maybe haven't seen all these movies,
they would see these and not think they're completely old movies.
We did comment on that because it's like at some point,
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like when we have kids to watch these and it
won't be like mom, dad, these movies look so old.
And I'm trying to think of something that my mom
made me watch when I was little that I was like,
this looks so old. Well, I would think something like
two D animation, like The Brave Little Toaster. If you
went back and watch that movie, you'd be like, the
animation looks just so old in this, But watching this
movie now, it's like it looks brand new. It looks
(37:16):
as good as like Toe Story four is now. So
that's what I wanted to bring the movie news. Also,
um Chris Evans was kind of rumored to be coming
back and playing Captain America, but he basically went on
Twitter and said there's no truth to this. So everybody
was getting excited that he'd be, I don't know, doing
(37:37):
it again, But he's kind of shut that down immediately,
which I think you should. I think they should kind
of just leave those characters as they are. I don't
want to see him come back as Captain America anymore.
I think it's a little bit of like, oh, we
want to like what would he do again? I think
it's all been done. Save the world again. Yeah, I
like closure. I felt we got at got that in
(37:58):
the last Avengers. I don't feel like always like closure
that we've had this conversation when it but that last
Marvel Avengers movie felt so finalizing. They wrapped it up
so well. I think to come back and be like, oh,
he's he's Captain America again, would be a little of
a like, okay doing that again. So and also casting news,
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Nicole Kidman isn't pretty much confirmed to be Lucille Ball
and an upcoming biopic, and the drama was that everybody
was saying that Debra Messing should play Lucille Ball instead,
and she even like tweeted that she was available, So
I guess she said she wasn't asked. And I get
it that she looks a lot more like Lucy, but
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Nicole Kidman, I feel one has a lot more of
like an acting kind of buzz around her right now.
She's been in a lot of great TV shows lately,
her movies haven't been quite up to that same kind
of standard. But I don't know. I think when you
cast a biopic, you're going more for how good of
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an actor they are, aside from everybody kind of wanting
them to pick somebody who looks exactly like the person
they're playing, because I think their makeup and costume you
can get them to look pretty close to them no
matter what they actually look like. So I get it
that she looks more like Lucy, but I like the
call better of having Nicole Kidman do it. What do
you think I would agree. I think Nicole Kidman is
(39:25):
a good fit for that. Yeah, she was good. We
saw her in The Undoing, Yes, great great also saw
her in Big Little Eyes, So I think that's a
good fit for her. And then finally, in movie news,
Netflix is announced they're releasing a brand new movie every
single week. The thing I love about this is that
these can't be delayed exactly because they come out on
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Netflix no matter what I mean, they come out strong
with all those like really big actors doing really big movies.
And I'm excited just to have, no matter what, a
movie to talk about each week. So, and also credit
you for finding that article first. Thank you. It's like
getting photo credit. I just wanted my credit for finding that. Well.
I was on a run while the news came out
(40:08):
and I didn't get to see it, but you you
brought that to my attention. I brought it to your attention,
then you put it all over Twitter and Instagram. Would
it have killed you to give me a little shout out? Okay,
next time you get to credit, Thank you? All right,
And this week's shout out of the week goes to
Kelsey No just kidding to get a shout out. All
you have to do is tweet me at Mike Destro,
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send me an Instagram message or Facebook post anything you want,
or you can email me Movie Mike d at gmail
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this week we're going over to Twitter and it's from
at Sarah W. S U forty four, who said she
loved last week's episode and the game was a great edition.
A lot of people said that they liked the game.
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They enjoyed it when we played the movie theme song
game last week. So if you didn't listen to that,
go back and check that one out, because we do
it in a way that you can play along too,
so we'll come up with some more games that's kind
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drawing board. All right, thanks everybody for listening. Talk to
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Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I
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First of all, I'm gonna sit down with producer Eddie,
who I work with on The Bobby Bones Show, who's
also a member of the Sore Losers, and we're gonna
be talking all about the evolution of Matthew McConaughey as
an actor. We both just read his book called Green Lights.
(00:20):
Then Eddie and I will also get into how important
the movie La Bamba was to us as Mexican Americans,
which during that part of this episode, I felt like
we kind of had this connection we never realized we
had before. And then later on I'll be joined by
my co host and fiance Kelsey. We just got an
early look at the movie called Our Friend. With all
(00:41):
that said, let's get started. In a world where everyone
and their mother has a podcast, one man stands to
infiltrate the ears of listeners like never before in a
movie podcast, a man with so much movie knowledge, he's
basically like a walking Audi MTV with's Glide from the
(01:01):
Natural Podcast Network Movie Movie Podcast. All right, I am
joined now by Eddie from the Sore Losers work with
you on the Bobby Bones Show. We are both Mexican,
that's right, and we both just read Matthew McConaughey's book,
which this is a movie podcast, but I thought it
would be kind of cool to just look at the
(01:22):
evolution of Matthew McConaughey. Yes, because that's just crazy to me,
how he went from being like the romcom guy to
being the best actor that we know now. I think
after reading the book, it was crazy to me that
coming from a guy who really wanted to be a
lawyer first, didn't really know what he wanted to do
in life, to becoming a successful actor. You know, acting
(01:43):
is not easy, man like, but I guess to him
it just came natural, because he even says at the
beginning of his career he didn't have to try that
hard to become the actor later in life he did
because he took on more challenging character. I want to
start there, like, after reading this book, were you in
any bit like inspired to think that you could act?
Because I was reading and I was like, dude, I
(02:04):
think I could like figure this out. I've always thought
that I can act, you know, like even from when
I was young, but especially after reading this book, I
felt like I can act. And I'll even add to that,
reading the book and kind of how he got to
start in film was interesting to me. You know. Um
he talks about meeting the producer who was the casting
(02:25):
at the time, casting for days and confused, he didn't
know what he was doing. He was in Austin going
to film school, I think, and his friend was a
bartender at a hotel, and he just goes to the
hotel and has drinks with his friend who's probably giving
him free drinks. And and while he's there, the bartender
and his friend says, hey, man, I meant to tell
you this guy right here. He comes in every night
(02:45):
he's in town because he's casting or producing a movie.
You may want to talk to him. So at that
point McConaughey is like, hey, alright, alright, let me start
talking to this dude and get in with him. He
gets really drunk and gets kicked out of the bar,
and at that point McConaughey says, hey, this is my
chance to get in with this guy. I'll get kicked
out of the bar with him. We'll end up in
(03:07):
the same cab together and we'll talk about the role
or whatever, or me trying to get into his movie,
which that's exactly what happened. At the end of the
car the cab ride, this producer guy's like, hey, man,
come by the office in the morning. I think I
might have a spot free in the movie we're doing
here in Austin. And that's Waterson. So to me, it's like,
that's the kind of stuff that happens, Like how I
(03:28):
joined the Bobby Bones Show randomly interviewing Bobby Bones at
a steam clean William Hung event means I meet Bobby,
who becomes who is already a little radio host in
Austin but becomes a national radio host, wants me to
come with him, And it's like, that's crazy, how all
these big things start from a little meeting, like in
McConaughey's case at a hotel bar, you know, where his
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friend bartended. I thought that was just an amazing store,
and how he got in and then from there he
goes to being on the set, And what I found
just kind of fast sinating was how he approached like
finding the character and kind of his whole thing throughout
his career is like finding his guy, like kind of
man calls him like figuring out why his character would
do certain things, how he would go about playing a
(04:14):
certain person, and almost like learning that more than he
like focuses on like learning lines. Yeah, he I think
confesses many times he didn't even really read the script.
He just knew his man going in. And there was
that one case where he was like, you know what,
I'm not even going to read the lines for this
to study for it, and I'm just gonna go and
knowing the guy, he turns the page and it's all
(04:34):
in Spanish. It's like this couldn't really pay off. I
think at that point he says, I'm the twelve minutes,
learned Spanish in twelve minutes. But he the other thing,
he went to school at the University of Texas in Austin,
and he started he was going to be a lawyer,
(04:55):
like you said, and then switched to doing film. What
was interesting to me was that he reference like in
his film class that like his other he didn't really
fit in that class, like he was kind of the
jot guy and everybody else was like a total film nerd.
And while they were all going to like art houses
to watch all these like really artistic movies. He was like, dude,
I'm want to go watch die Hard, Like that's a
(05:15):
great movie. And I feel like I've always kind of
had that balance of like I love big blockbuster movies,
but I do a movie podcast, so I like watch everything,
but these are always my favorite movies, and he kind
of like stood up for them in a way, like, Hey,
you can like these movies and still be into film
when it comes to like when you sit down and
watch something, what do you look for. Do you want
(05:36):
to watch like something that you totally disconnect from and
just kind of take his like, Okay, that was fun,
eight some popcorn to watch that movie, or do you
like to really dive in and learn something in a movie? Both?
You know, I think it really depends on how I'm
feeling or what's on at the time. Sometimes, you know,
I don't really look for movies a lot. I kind
of scan channels and if something starts and I'm like, oh,
(05:57):
that's cool, I like that actor, I like that actress,
and just watch it for a couple of minutes. Never
seen this movie. Next thing, you know, I'm watching the
whole thing and I'm crying at the end. I love
that experience because I didn't really go out seeking dude.
My wife and I were get into bed and it's
like nine o'clock, the kids are all asleep, and we're like, hey,
let's start a movie, and we look and do We
search for an hour and a half for a movie,
(06:17):
and at that point we're like, I'm ready for bed,
and we end up watching nothing. So to me, it's
just kind of getting surprised. I like the I'm like McConaughey,
I like the real, real pop culture stuff, and I
do like the ones that no one's ever seen. And
then really getting excited about a movie like that too,
is pretty cool. So he's going throughout his career he
has days and confused, and then he's kind of just
(06:39):
like taking kind of odd acting jobs before he moved
to Los Angeles. And then what I also felt I
kind of learned from this is like why he is
such a great actor, Like he went out and experienced
things that sound insane to me to be able like
to take time away from your life to go to
another country just to like go to German Men eat,
(07:00):
Like I feel like that really shaped how he kind
of was able to be such an interesting person to
be able to play such interesting characters later in his life. Yeah,
I agree with that. I mean, he definitely a lot.
Reading this book, I felt anxiety for the things that
he was doing the Amazon trip. I felt anxiety over
(07:22):
not know like not knowing what he was doing there,
who he was with when the guys wrecked the bike
in Germany. Yeah, that that that would have totally stressed
me out, and I would have quit, called my parents
and gotten back home, you know, Like, but that that's
that's him. That's how he lived lives life with with
let's just see what happens mentality and we'll all we'll
figure it out. The part to me that stresses me
(07:44):
out is just going to anywhere for an extended period
of time and then like knowing you have a place
back home they had to pay rent on. But he
just has like this approach where he's like, you know what,
I had a dream. I saw this in my dream.
I'm going to go accomplish that. He had a dream
of floating naked in the Amazon, finding some guy a
couple of times and getting eaten by like river sharks
(08:07):
and all sorts of stuff. And he's like, I'm gonna
chase that dream like, are you crazy? What do you mean?
I had a dream where like I was naked too
and this guy was robbing me. I'm not gonna go
try to get robbed. I just woke up like weird dream,
alright and move on? Yeah, and what was weird too?
He's kept calling it wet dreams? And I was like,
is he serious? Did he really have one of those?
And he was And he goes into detail too, just
like I'm talking about the wet dreams We don't really
(08:29):
think I'm talking about. Did you also read the book
in his voice sometimes? Course, of course you can't help
but read a lot of it in his voice. So
then he does that movie Rain of Fire, which is
kind of his last one before he's like, you know what,
I'm starting to be type cast as a certain kind
of person. He done like how it was a guy
in ten Days, he was like the romcom guy kind
(08:49):
of took over after Hugh Grant, like that was kind
of his role because at that point he was just
taking whatever Hollywood defeat him because he had made it. Yeah,
and he quote unquote made it making money doing all that.
But then he's like, you know what, Like I want
to do something that challenged me, challenges me a little
bit more. And there was those twenty months that no calls,
(09:12):
didn't take anything. Yeah, he had to make the decision
to tell Hollywood no, no, no, it's no longer what
you want me to do. I'm telling you this is
what I'm going to do. And they were really ten months,
like you said, we're really like fine, big shot. It's
just crazy how like you can establish such a career
(09:33):
having all these movies, but it feels like you're maybe
like two calls or two little instances away from losing
that all, like totally being cut off from Hollywood and
someone like Matthew McConaughey to be like, all right, your
career is done if you don't say yes to something soon.
But also cool about it is that he did talk
about in the book that he did check with his finances.
(09:56):
He checked with his accountant and said, hey, before I
do this, how much time do I have? You know? Like,
and that to me is great to put in the
book because you can't be telling everyone like, hey, take
your stance, man, do whatever you want and don't worry
they'll follow. Not really true, like make sure you're covered
until you do it, which is what he did because
(10:17):
he got that offer where I think they offered him
ten million first, and he said no, and he just
kept saying no, and it got a movie. Was that
he never I don't think you ever said, but it
got up to fourteen point five minutes. Let me read
that again. We read that script again. I thought that
part he's like, and the script was way better than
the first time I read it. So he's one of
the really few actors that I know haven't who have
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like not so much rebranded himself, but kind of unbranded
himself from being that guesting. He went those twenty months
without taking anything, and then he started doing movies like
Mud Killer Joe Mud Sucks. Yeah, he loves MUDs so much,
and he talks about it being his favorite movie and
the one movie that was aid for him. I'm like, dude,
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that's the one movie I just don't like. I think
he just had to get something different under his belt
for a while, and I think he felt like that
would kind of define that transition period. But I agree,
if you're going to go back and watch his like
transition movies, I don't think that's a great one. But
then he he first read the script for Dallas Buyers
Club in two thousand seven, which is also crazy how
long it takes for a movie to get made from
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where it's just a script to when there's a director
attached to it, to winners an actor attached to it.
And what usually happens for movies to get made is
there'll be a big name actor attached to it and
they're like, Okay, that kind of legitimizes the whole thing.
Like whenever they were making Elf that took a long
time to make, but they had Will Ferrell attached to it.
They're like, Okay, this will get made eventually. So that's
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kind of what happened with Dallas Buyers Club two thousand seven.
First draft, they want to take Matthew McConaughey off for
the first director, but then eventually they find the guy
who will do it with Matthew McConaughey and he does this,
which is Jared Letto, who's that he's the other actor
in the movie. Okay, yeah, but they found a different
director to do it, and for this movie, he took
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away less than he had ever taken before and it
really paid off, because I mean, this is kind of
the movie that I really know him for now, huge
role and that was is that his first Academy award,
first one for Best Accurate First Academy Award. I think
the movie was nominated for a lot of Academy Awards.
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I mean it was a huge, huge movie for and
they shot the entire thing in twenty five days, only
cost four point nine million to make, which maybe like
five thousand is what was given to him. That's just
such a big risk to take to be like, Okay,
I'm gonna do this movie. I believe in it so much,
and then to go to extremes just to prepare for
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this role, which you've been talking about on the Bobby
Bones Show. You were inspired to do with the diet,
which he talks about how sharp his mind got from
doing that diet. So when you're reading that, why did
that kind of stick out to you something you wanted
to try. I think the first thing, the first time
I thought about it was early in the book when
he's talking about living in Australia. He was a foreign
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exchange student with a family, and he was extremely unhappy there.
So he decided to eat let us with catchup for
like I don't know, months, months of just let us
and catch up for breakfast, and he said, man, I
lost so much away, but I look good, you know.
And I was just like, let us and catch up.
That's terrible. But that did not interest me. Then when
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he talked about the determination it took for him to
lose fifty pounds in such a short period of time,
and I looked at he. I mean, he shared his
his diet, and I'm thinking, I kind of want to
try that one, just to see if he's full of
crap or not. And two, hey, man, if I can
lose not fifty pounds, Mike, but if I can lose
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like ten pounds in a few months, let's give it
a shot. I want to see what that's like. It's
an insane diet. And I mean I was picturing him
eating the lettuce with the kitchen, I know. And it
feels like all the stories he tells about this could
almost be like a mini movie in themselves. So I
think if somebody wanted to read this book and you
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don't really know a whole lot about him, but you're
looking for something that has like kind of it's almost
it's pretty easy to read, and it has like these
quick little digest stories that you're like, Okay, that was
pretty interesting and I kind of see how he took
all of this into being the person that he Isn't sure,
so if you had a favorite Matthew McConaughey movie, now,
what would it be? Oh? I mean, my favorite favorite
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favorite is Days of Confused. I mean, I'm just gonna
have to go with the classic. But honestly, dude, before
I read this book, I did not know that that
was so so early in his career. Yeah. You you
would think that was like his biggest movie at like
the height of his career. But that's the first thing
he had, his first hit, his first first real acting gig.
And he talks about how the first thing he ever
said on film was the line alright, alright, alright, and
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the fact that he that character Waterson wasn't even a
character really in the script. He didn't have any lines.
He was just the old dude that drove the car,
you know, But he made it into a character that
they're gonna he's gonna be a big part of this movie,
and everyone remembers him as just keep on living, you know,
just keep v in. Do you find you like him
more after reading this book way more. I mean, dude,
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I had met him a handful of times when I
lived in Austin, and it was very short and very
standoffish and very you you're not important to me kind
of feeling. And I wasn't. I mean, I was not
nothing to him. You know, that's just a person on
the street. But but I always felt like, I don't
like that feeling of like that just kind of getting
blown off by Matthew McConaughey every single time, you know,
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so like I never paid attention to him. I watched
his movies just because maybe it was on, but not
because I watched it because Matthew McConaughey was in the movie.
Never a fan like that. After reading this though, I
just kind of started thinking and and and trying to
maybe make this as a goal for myself to never
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judge people before you even get a chance to know him.
Because and not that I know matthe mconaughey after reading
this book, but I know I know more about him,
And after reading you know, three pages, more than just
meeting him three times on the street, I get to
know really the person that I was meeting on the
street more than just oh yeah, dude, I know your
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face from the movies, Like, dude, he was. He's really deep. Yeah,
he's a deep thinker, you know, And I would have
never got that from him. Yeah, maybe if I paid
more attention to the Lincoln commercials. He's a deep thinker.
But really, before that, I thought it was just a
dumb meat head who had just acted stupid. And I
guess I didn't really know like how big of a
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celebrity and how big of an actor he is because,
like you, I lived in Austin too, and he was
kind of just like the local celebrity. That's how that's
how I pictured him, like, oh, it's like Matthew McConaughey
had a Longhorns game. But kind of reading this and
seeing like how famous he was, he couldn't go places,
he couldn't go places, and he would like drive out
to places to kind of I mean, even when he
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went to the Amazon, there was like somebody who was
a fan of him. So it was kind of put
it into perspective just how big beyond everything else he is,
and it kind of made me respect him a little bit.
Me too, man, I'm a fan now, I'm a fan.
I follow him on Instagram. Follow his wife on Instagram. Yeah,
I started. I'm a fan of his. I think if
there was one thing I would do from this book
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that he did was how he when he drove it
in that van and he would just record his thoughts.
He set up like that microphone and basically this entire
book was that transcribed. I thought that was pretty interesting that. Um, yeah,
Matthew McConaughey. Who I thought that there was one thing
he I think he's in the Amazon or maybe Africa,
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because was he in the He did a Nile trip too, right,
I may have been Africa when he was there. He
had he found a guide. Again. The way he finds
these guys is like I just showed up, man, and
I found I found him, and and he ends up
spending you know, weeks with this guy or whatever. But
he's with two guys and they have some sort of
argument about something, and he he tries to he tries
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to understand what they're arguing about, and then he finally
picks a side between the two guys arguing and then
he says, now, man, I think I think so and
so is right, And they both turned around and said no, no, no,
you're not understanding. No one is right. You just have
to understand both points of the argument. And then he
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puts in there, mcconagey boys, America can learn something from this,
you know, like, and it hit me right straight to
the brain. I was like, huh, I should learn something
about this, Like that's right. I'm always just like that's
not right. Oh that's there, we go, you nailed it.
But no, it's understanding both sides of an argument. And again,
nothing to do with movies. But McConaughey is weird, deep deep,
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deep mind brought this up, and I thought, that's really
the one thing I got out of this book that
really is going to stick with me for a while.
I think, well, the book is called green Lights, and
I gotta confess that when I first posted that I
had read this book and we were gonna do a
podcast together, people thought I was getting Matthew McConaughey on.
Oh hey, how's it going? So there we go. Let
me tell you some back. I wrote this book straight
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from the heart. Alright, Okay, I do want to do
one more segment with you, if you can hang around.
I want to talk about the movie La Bamba, Hey,
come on, a movie that I think you're the only
person who can identify the same way that I do
with this movie. Come on, so we'll get into that next.
Sounds good. Yeah, here's America's newest rock and roll sensation,
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the California kid Ritchie. There's a bit of a rall
snake la all right. So I want to talk about
the movie La Bamba, which we've told Bobby many times
to watch the this movie he's never watched, and it's
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a story about Richie Vallens. But yeah, this dude will say, Hey,
go watch this dumb documentary about an octopus, and we're
all like, and I didn't watch that one, but I
guess it's a Mexican thing, is it? Because I was
thinking of Like, when I make my list of movies,
this one always ends up in the top five, And
I think it's because the first time I watched it,
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it was me seeing somebody who looked like me on
the big screen, and it's very rare to see a
Mexican actor or a Mexican story for trade. But aside
from that, one of my favorite kind of genres is
biopics and also ones that take place back in the day.
So this has everything kind of set up for me,
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But for you, what is it about this movie that's
kind of that you identify with the same thing? I mean,
the exact same thing. There's a guy on on a move.
I mean I was a huge movie fan growing up.
I loved movies. My brother and I would go to
a bunch of movies, Star Wars fans, Indiana Jones, all
the I mean, we just loved the movie. So to
see a Mexican on the screen, not knowing his musical
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story was really inspiring to say. And I've always been
the type of person to be like, I want to
be that, and that's what I'm gonna go for in life.
And you know, like everything about him, everything about him
in the movie I related to I. You know, like
when you're in elementary school and you lie to people
and say you have a girlfriend that goes another school.
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I lied and said I had had a girlfriend named
Donna schoolide town because Richie, did you know, Like, that's
what it was for me. I'm with you exactly the same.
I think. The other thing about this movie is that
it presents Mexican culture in a way that's not overly
presenting Mexican culture. If that makes sense because I feel
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when either a TV show or a movie is made
about a Mexican family, they over emphasize the Mexican qualities
to be like, Okay, this is a Mexican family. They
like make a point to be like, this is my
ulita and we are making this for dinner, like very
like intertwining Mexican themes and Mexican things to make it
a Mexican movie. But in this one, it kind of
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just shows how Mexicans in that time we're living in
the United States. How I mean, he didn't even really
speak Spanish, and I feel a lot of that like
for me, like growing up, like my parents only spoke
Spanish and they learned how to speak English from watching TV.
But by the time it got to me, I was
kind of in that in between of them only speaking
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Spanish to me but me learning English for the first time,
which was what Ritchie Allen's was. He was singing lavamba
when he could barely hold a conversation in Spanish. Yeah,
you know, I had a that makes me think of
I had a very awakening moment like right after college
is I had made it, I had made some you know,
college movies or whatever, and we had we had entered
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the Medican film festivals. Me and this girl, I was
the kind of DP director of director of photography and
she had written the script and we both co directed
and it was just a school project and we made it.
And then we submitted into a bunch of film festivals
and there was one in particular in South Texas that
accepted it. I'm from South Texas, and I was like,
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this is amazing that they're accepting this. It's called Senid.
They're sold. And uh. We go down there to to
show our our movie, to screen our movie, and the
director for LaBamba is also there too, so so I
get to meet him at the festival and he said, hey, man,
I'm having a party back at my condo. Come back,
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come back with with us. I'm like, cool, all right, dude.
So I'm like, do not geek out about LaBamba with
this guy. He's not he's not even here for a
Labama He's not. He's doing a completely different movie. So
we got to hang out with him. I even forget
his and it was Valdez is his last name, but
I don't really remember his first name. But we hung out,
we talked or whatever, and I went home that night,
and I thought to myself, exactly what you're saying, Like,
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how as a Hispanic kid, am I gonna be able
to succeed in this world also carrying my culture with me,
but also having relationships with people that are not Hispanic,
which I think he did very well, which maybe had
to do with making the movie that way. You know,
it is making an Hispanic cultured filled film like that
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and presented to the whole world, and not making also
to the whole world feel like they don't know what
that culture is. Oh that's so different. Oh that's not
for us, that's the that's for Mexican people. Know, it
was for everyone. The story of Richie Allen's like you said,
he didn't know any English, he didn't know Spanish, he
just knew English. So I feel like I had that
moment too in life when I met Mr Valdez and
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things like oh, man, like that is very important to
not over culturalize our Hispanic culture into whatever we do
in the future, which why sometimes on the Bobby Bones
Show people are just like Eddie's the least Mexican dude.
I'm not. I've just really really dedicated a lot of
my life to understand the culture that I'm a part
of because I'm not in South Texas anymore. If was,
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I would still be like, ha, come on like that.
I think the other thing I remember watching a making
of this movie with the director and he talked about
how he wanted to make it at the very bottom
line of the movie a story about brothers. So essentially
the whole movie is a story about his brother Bob
and Ritchie. Their relationship is really what kind of makes
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this such an impactful movie. Why you do learn his
story all about his career, what makes like the emotional
attachment is learning about them as brothers. So I think
that's another way he kind of made it to not
so much focus on like this is away a Mexican story,
right yeah, um yeah, definitely I love that story. I
mean again, you talk, you talk about this movie just
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being a movie or whatever, but it's it really is
a big part of our life. And I remember my
brother to telling me, you know, when we were growing up,
I feel like I'm Bob and you're Richie. And it's
like when when you're using little examples of like that
from a movie be that we grew up watching, that's
how impactful it was in our lives. I mean I
had the same thing in my brother, like we kind
of parallel Ritchie and Bob in certain ways. And I
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think even like other cousins I have, like you see
that same kind of thing, like the older brother going
one way and the younger brother chasing other dreams. I
think that also resonates. And you don't even have to
be Mexican. Favorite line from the movie, oh come on,
I mean the big one is Richie, of course rich
but I might have to go with let me see. Oh,
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I mean we always quote you and me every time
we're in the studio. We always quote um uh woody
would buzz buzzard. I mean, there's so many. This is
one of those movies to where it's just worked its
way into my vocabulary, Like I will just quote things
and I realize I'm quoting La Bamba, like whenever they
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go play that bar for the first time and he's like,
this one's out a loving Texas, Texas. Like stuff like
that is just embedded in my brain where I just
say it and it's from La Bamba. Now, are you
like me? Where after you saw the movie, you bought
the soundtrack and then after you had the soundtrack, you
sort of researching who really sang all these songs and
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and then really going down the Richie Valens catalog. Yeah,
I did that. That's kind of how I got into
like liking Buddy Holly, like in the movie that song
and crying Open, like that's one of my favorite songs,
Buddy Holly, mainly because of the movie, and it kind
of made learned about the Big Bopper and just kind
of that genre and that time of music. But it's
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it's interesting. I know, man, I have a Ritchie Valens
record back home and I listen to it all the time,
and the original Richie valence and it's it's very cool. Man.
I love telling my kids the story, and you just
reminded me from talking about this in the podcast, like
I will watch that. I want to watch that movie
with my kids, so because I mean, I grew up
in McAllen, Texas, South South Texas, seven miles of the border,
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and my kids have never seen that. Even my twelve
year old, he's never been down there. I've haven't lived
down there in years, so I've had no reason to
go down there. But I want to take him down
there to show them, show them my roots, but I
think before I do that, I'm gonna show them La Bamba.
There you right, well, appreciate you hanging out on this episode.
I encourage everybody listening. If you haven't seen La Bamba,
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learned the story, start quoting new with us. Yeah, it's
a great movie to watch. Thanks Eddie bringing out Man. Yeah, dude,
thanks for having me Man. All right, let's get into
a movie review now, joined by my fiance and co
host Kelsey. We're gonna be talking about the movie Our Friends,
starring Jason Segal, Dakota Johnson, Casey Affleck, and Jake Owen.
Before we get into that review, here's a little bit
(28:40):
of the trailer. Can we talk for a minute, Matt,
it's goooling to get very hard going to see things
from Nicole you never seen before. You need to do
this alone, can't help you get to the other side
of this. How long did I'm hoping just a couple
of weeks. I just want to make sure Mac gets
back on his feet. I usually make breakfast and dinner
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and you can take some of that weight off. Speaking
of us, hoping you'd call me Grandma Jane, excuse me, sure,
I'll call you, Grandma Jane, Thank you. All right. So
I've been waiting for this movie to come out for
a while now. I think I first heard of it
maybe like two years ago. Jac Owen came in and
he was on the Bobby Bones Show saying like, Hey,
I'm gonna be in a movie. And since then I've
been following along this movie. It was called The Friend
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at the very beginning and now it's called Our Friend,
and it's basically a movie based on an article which
I thought was interesting. And the thing about this movie is,
I feel this was a pretty sad movie. Now, recently,
we've watched some movies that have made us emotional, but
I think it's been a while since I've watched a
movie that just made me sad, Like as close as
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I got to like genuinely crying, is what I feel
this movie was. How did you feel about the emotional
level of this movie? Oh, it was sad, And I
had watched the trailer, but I don't think I fully
processed how sad it was going to be. And then
we were about like fifteen twenty minute and I was like, Oh,
this is gonna be sad. From the trailer, you find
out what it's about and without spoiling any of it,
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which I mean, it is a true story, but I
feel there's some things that come out to play that
we won't talk about. But overall, it's about a mom
who gets diagnosed with cancer and she finds out it's
terminal and then it's the whole family dealing with it,
which I thought that's exactly what the whole movie was
going to be about. But I think where it kind
of stands apart from other movies is it's really about
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Jason Siegel's character and how much he steps up as
a friend and how much he kind of helps him
get through it and like his struggles throughout the movie.
So I think that's a part of the story that
hasn't been told in something like this before. So how
did you feel about this movie? I thought it was
really good. I really enjoyed it. I mean, it was
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two hours long, but didn't feel like two hours, except
there was one point where we positive it was like, oh,
I still have an hour left to be sad. It
is a pretty good emotional roller coaster because not only
are you with seeing how the cancer is affecting her
throughout Dakota Johnson's character, But I mean from their kids
in the movie to how they're just trying to like
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spend as much time with her before she passes. They
essentially say she's gonna have six months to live and
it's all going from that. So there's a lot that
I've just never really knew about. So it was kind
of for me like, oh man, this is a lot
to go through, and you realize how much cancer sucks
and how much of an emotional toll it is, and
it does just make you sad, right, Yeah, And I
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thought it was a really good portrayal of like all
of the emotions of like a diagnosis like that and
just them kind of walking through all of that. And
I thought Jason Siegel's character was amazing. Yeah, I thought
it was really good. He was my favorite part of
this movie. We know him mostly as you know, doing
the early mid two thousands, just comedic stuff. He mean,
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kind of a goofy guy, which I think he kind
of is in this movie. He's the comedic relief and
kind of like the the fun guy to be around.
But also it just shows like how even those kind
of people have another side of them of things they're
they're dealing with. And he really just puts his life
on pause in this movie, and he does a really
(32:16):
good job at it. Like he was very convincing to
where I didn't think of him as being the goo
by Jason Segel, right, I like lost track of him
being kind of the funny guy. Yeah. Who. What do
you think about the cast overall? I think it's pretty interesting,
Like I really wanted to watch it because Jake Owen's
in it, who I wanted to see how he would
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do as an actor. And if I had one criticism
with the movie, it's like he wasn't in it enough. Yeah,
he could have been in it more like I would
have enjoyed Oh yeah, I would have liked seeing him
more throughout the movie. I'd say total, he's in about
three scenes, So if there was anything, I just wanted
more of his character in it. But I kind of
get it compared to like where he was in the story.
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But I thought this was a pretty interesting cast because
Casey aff like what did he do just sad movies?
And in Dakota Johnson. I just thought overall it's pretty eclectic.
So I thought that was an interesting pick for everybody.
How did you feel after we watched this movie sad, right, Yeah,
you made us watch Toy Story, So I think if
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you're gonna watch this movie, it's pretty sad, but it's
I don't know, like some of the other stuff we
watched recently. It's like emotional and sad, but it's also uplifting.
Do you think there's had any kind of uplifting parts
to it or is it just gonna like if you
want to watch something to make you cry, I feel
like if you just want to feel your fields, Like
for every everyone listening, if you've seen My Sister's Keeper
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with Cameron Diaz about her daughter that has cancer similarly sad,
I would say it would be my comparison, like there's
not really necessarily a silver lining to the movie, yeah,
which I was kind of expecting, but I get it's
a real life. Yeah, it was a true story, so
it wasn't wrapped up with a bow. Yeah. I feel
like it was hand like the movie itself like told
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the story. Well. Yeah, And that's one of the big
things I feel like with a movie like that about
and just cancer in real life, is that like there
is a life like after and I I don't feel
like the movie got to that as much, but it
kind of showed them like having to go on and
move forward. And I guess the one kind of silver
lining of it is if you have those kind of
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people in your life who have been around you through
the good times and through the really hard times, if
you watch this and maybe you're like, oh, this is
kind of like this person in my life, it makes
you want to text all your friends. And So, if
you had to give this movie a rating, what would
you give it four and a half out of five.
I can't think of a rating system. I can't think
of anything that was like a little like I don't
hope we could pick something out. I would give it
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a solid four out of five. I think it's I
thought the acting was really good. You can just tell,
like within like the first scene, that it's going to
be a good movie. It kept me invested all the
way through. And yeah, it got me emotionally, like the
closest I've been to like legit crying. I looked over
several points in you were just experienced. Some of it
is just very hard to take, and mainly when it
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has to do with anything dealing with the kids, that's
that's a hard part. But It's in theaters and select
theaters starting on Friday. You can get it on demand
wherever you rent movies if you want to check that out.
So that is a review of the movie Our Friend.
We're gonna get into now some movie news, which I
wanted to bring something you kind of mentioned earlier into
movie news. It wasn't a story anything put out, but
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something I just realized is that a lot of the
Disney Pixar movies on Disney Plus are digitally remastered, which
I don't think a lot of people will realize that
I didn't really know. And after we watched Our Friend,
I was like, I need a palate cleanser, Like I
need something to make me feel good again. So we
watched Toy Story, and from when the movie started, I
was like, this looks completely different. Yeah, you kick out
(35:50):
a little. It was fascinating, like I was seeing details
in this movie that I hadn't seen before. And you
could really like the aimes on like games in the background.
You could see like other little details and like the
characters like Woody's hair has like these other little color
imprints on them. And I found out that when they
put these movies on Disney Plus, they went in and
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digitally remastered I think twelve of them, and all the
toy stories are included. Because if you think about it,
these movies came out when this technology was like straight
up brand new. The first one. They were just realizing
like how to do all these things, and it's you
can't really go back and reanimate everything again. We can
go back and kind of make it look brighter and
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do all the things they do to remaster the movies.
But I would say, if you want to go back
and like, haven't seen these movies in a while, right now,
to see them on Disney Plus, it's pretty cool you
can see things you haven't seen before. And I feel
like even kids now who maybe haven't seen all these movies,
they would see these and not think they're completely old movies.
We did comment on that because it's like at some point,
(36:54):
like when we have kids to watch these and it
won't be like mom, dad, these movies look so old.
And I'm trying to think of something that my mom
made me watch when I was little that I was like,
this looks so old. Well, I would think something like
two D animation, like The Brave Little Toaster. If you
went back and watch that movie, you'd be like, the
animation looks just so old in this, But watching this
movie now, it's like it looks brand new. It looks
(37:16):
as good as like Toe Story four is now. So
that's what I wanted to bring the movie news. Also,
um Chris Evans was kind of rumored to be coming
back and playing Captain America, but he basically went on
Twitter and said there's no truth to this. So everybody
was getting excited that he'd be, I don't know, doing
(37:37):
it again, But he's kind of shut that down immediately,
which I think you should. I think they should kind
of just leave those characters as they are. I don't
want to see him come back as Captain America anymore.
I think it's a little bit of like, oh, we
want to like what would he do again? I think
it's all been done. Save the world again. Yeah, I
like closure. I felt we got at got that in
(37:58):
the last Avengers. I don't feel like always like closure
that we've had this conversation when it but that last
Marvel Avengers movie felt so finalizing. They wrapped it up
so well. I think to come back and be like, oh,
he's he's Captain America again, would be a little of
a like, okay doing that again. So and also casting news,
(38:21):
Nicole Kidman isn't pretty much confirmed to be Lucille Ball
and an upcoming biopic, and the drama was that everybody
was saying that Debra Messing should play Lucille Ball instead,
and she even like tweeted that she was available, So
I guess she said she wasn't asked. And I get
it that she looks a lot more like Lucy, but
(38:42):
Nicole Kidman, I feel one has a lot more of
like an acting kind of buzz around her right now.
She's been in a lot of great TV shows lately,
her movies haven't been quite up to that same kind
of standard. But I don't know. I think when you
cast a biopic, you're going more for how good of
(39:03):
an actor they are, aside from everybody kind of wanting
them to pick somebody who looks exactly like the person
they're playing, because I think their makeup and costume you
can get them to look pretty close to them no
matter what they actually look like. So I get it
that she looks more like Lucy, but I like the
call better of having Nicole Kidman do it. What do
you think I would agree. I think Nicole Kidman is
(39:25):
a good fit for that. Yeah, she was good. We
saw her in The Undoing, Yes, great great also saw
her in Big Little Eyes, So I think that's a
good fit for her. And then finally, in movie news,
Netflix is announced they're releasing a brand new movie every
single week. The thing I love about this is that
these can't be delayed exactly because they come out on
(39:48):
Netflix no matter what I mean, they come out strong
with all those like really big actors doing really big movies.
And I'm excited just to have, no matter what, a
movie to talk about each week. So, and also credit
you for finding that article first. Thank you. It's like
getting photo credit. I just wanted my credit for finding that. Well.
I was on a run while the news came out
(40:08):
and I didn't get to see it, but you you
brought that to my attention. I brought it to your attention,
then you put it all over Twitter and Instagram. Would
it have killed you to give me a little shout out? Okay,
next time you get to credit, Thank you? All right,
And this week's shout out of the week goes to
Kelsey No just kidding to get a shout out. All
you have to do is tweet me at Mike Destro,
(40:29):
send me an Instagram message or Facebook post anything you want,
or you can email me Movie Mike d at gmail
dot com. It's also in the episode notes here, but
this week we're going over to Twitter and it's from
at Sarah W. S U forty four, who said she
loved last week's episode and the game was a great edition.
A lot of people said that they liked the game.
(40:50):
They enjoyed it when we played the movie theme song
game last week. So if you didn't listen to that,
go back and check that one out, because we do
it in a way that you can play along too,
so we'll come up with some more games that's kind
of your department, all right, okay, welcome back to the
drawing board. All right, thanks everybody for listening. Talk to
you again next Monday here and until then, later
Host
Mike D
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