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Speaker 1 (00:09):
We are the losers. What up? Everybody on Lunchbox? I
know the most about sports, so I'll give you the
sports facts, my sports opinions, because I'm pretty much a
sports genius. What's up, you guys. I'm Rey, I'm the
alpha male. I have an entourage. When I go to
the bar, and when I go out, I don't get
a Cosmo or Margarite. I get a can of beer
and I shotgun it. And I'm also the only guy
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on the show that does the locks of the day.
That was a short one? Did you shorten it up?
Because we have guests in the studio. You didn't want
to talk about the slippery nipple, you don't order or
anything like that. We do have some guests, good calling,
and it's so convenient. I want to welcome Macy Barber
and Bryce Mitchell Bost fighters in the UFC. They are
fighting this weekend UFC Fight Night one, Thompson versus Pettis,
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And I'm gonna tell you what. We usually have another
guy named Eddie that is on this podcast with us
and a few months of Oh, we're talking about the
UFC because I love the UFC, And he said all
UFC fighters have to be stupid. And of course exactly exactly.
And the one day you guys come in conveniently, Eddie
had an appointment he had to go to because he
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said he was gonna say, yeah, oh, I think they're stupid.
I mean, who would go to a ring and get
punched in the head kicked in the head? They have
to be stupid. How do you respond to that? Fit
the description? Pretty well? Actually, I'll give yourself some credit. Yeah,
give yourself. I mean, like really, like what so fighting
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is kind of a crazy, crazy thing because you do
get punched, kicked, hit elbowed in the head. Is does
it really fit the mold that all fighters are stupid? No,
I think you have to be you have to be
a special person for sure, and and and you know,
have kind of an odd one out, But not in
terms of you know, your i Q or anything like that.
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I feel like fighters are some of the smart people
to me anyways, in terms of um, I guess the
sport because you can't just you're not just a striker
or a wrestler or gothlo. You have to have techniques
and you have to have the ability to change and
adapt your your um what you're doing in each fight.
So you have to have the the ability in your
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mind too to be able to do that, and not
many people can go from from from seeing one thing
to seeing another in in a fifteen minute period and
be able to change an adapt. So I with a
technical um with a technical response. So I feel like
we're some of the smarter I'm not saying we're smarter
people than the average people, but we definitely have a
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lot more then. Yeah, it's a game of chance. We're
not playing checkers here. It might look like, you know,
you're just slugging it out. I'm telling it's a game
of inches. You make one mistake, you'll go You'll go
to bed every night thinking I should have done this better,
I should have done that better. It's a game of technique,
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it's a game of chess. Uh. You know, I fight
from my family. I want to I want to live better.
I want to live a better life. Uh. You know,
I don't have a lot, and I want my family
to live better and I want to see that. And
I think the best way for me to do that,
as far as I can see, is to take that
in my own hands. And fighting gives you that ability,
you know, I can't play football, I can't play basketball.
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I'm white and I'm like five ten. You know gonna happen.
You know, I can go out there and I can
fight with anybody on any given day in my white class,
and there's a chance I can be the best in
the world. Yeah. We're definitely a special kind of human
And and it's not just being smart in terms of
the ring either. It's it's being smart with what you
do outside of the ring, you know, I mean, um
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like what he said, but whatever you're trying to do
to benefit your family and your life, I mean, you
have to be a smart person to be able to
lay those things out and pick people who are going
to help you lay those things out. We know the cost,
know we're getting into We know we're getting hit in
the head, you know. Yeah, high risk, high reward. You know,
it's not like we're just clueless of what's going on.
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We're taking brain damage, you know, mine, it's already so
far affected, it ain't gonna ain't gonna get that much wire.
So as a fighter, you say, brain damage, do you
guys worry about that? Like do fighters? Yeah, that's why
you train, and you train to not get hit you know,
we don't jump in a ring to to get punched
the face. We jump in the ring to to not
get hit in the face, to hit the other person
in the face, right, So I mean we're trying not
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to take brain damage at every possible chance we can. So, um,
that's how I feel about it. I was wondering, like,
y'all's faces look good, Like it looks like you guys
don't take a lot of punches. So I'm curious, like,
what is the worst injury you've had anywhere on your body? Well,
Bryance ripped his nutstack open, but that wasn't that's not
that's not in the ring. That's the last night you
didn't know that I was. I was training that. I
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guess that was right after the Ultimate Fighter, after the
Ultimate Fighter air and so that's why I knew more
about it. So I was like, oh my god. And
then the best part is you post pictures of it.
Nothing know anything. I'm like, just keep that away. It
was bad, man. It was the most painful thing I've
ever been through. When you when you brought that up,
he said, what's the most injury you had? That's the
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first thing I thought of it. It It ain't nothing to
do with fighting. You know you're good to go now though,
right I'm good to go the ladies. He's good to go,
is what he's saying. You know, I've had some tests runs,
you know what I'm saying. I'm back in full capacity.
So getting into the fight game when like, at what
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age do you realize you know what I that that
interests me? Or is it the m m A. Was
it fighting that attracted you or just the chess game
like you say it's a chess game. Or was it
you were just really tough and you wanted to test
how tough you were against other people. I think I
know your answer, and I think ours are completely separate.
Go for it. Just probably the toughness because when I
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was when I was a kid in the backyard, I mean,
we didn't have shipped to do, man, we would just
throw on boxing gloves and box. And I actually remember
one one summer I wrestled so much I got cold
flower ere in my ear before I knew what it was.
And I didn't know what cold fier was till ten
years later. What turns out, I had it in the
backyard when I was a kid because he was guillotineing
each other and one day I submit my ears, hurting
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like crazy. Ten years go by, and then I found
out it's a legit thing called cold Flowerer. So I've
been wrestling throwing down in the backyard since I was
a kid. It was always fun and then it Uh so,
when you're young and you're wrestling in the backyard, did
you whoop everybody's ass? And that's why you knew that.
My neighbor, Jimmy, he knocked my ass out. Man, Jimmy
doing now, Jimmy, Jimmy, don't mess with Jimmy's little sister.
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I'm telling you right now, I didn't mess with his sister.
I didn't mess with Jimmy's little sister. But I'm telling
you that's how you picked Jimmy off. He messed with
his little sister. Me and him was just having a
friendly spar and he got me. But uh so, that's
what you guys would do for fun. You would wrestle
in the back yard and do guillotines. Yeah, did you practice?
Did you did you? Did you know submissions back then?
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Did you guys know submissions? You know tapouts and all
the new tapouts. But the only thing I knew was
a guillotine and a rear naked. I didn't know armbar,
didn't know Colmor's. I mean, I was just That's why
I actually got the cold flower here, because all we
knew was guillotine. So you're constantly cranking on a dude's
head and his ears getting all messed up. That's all
we knew was guillotine and rear naked, and we didn't
know what arm bar was. That's really funny because we
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used to box a little bit in my front yard.
My brother's a couple of years older than me, and
he would box me and beat the crap out of
me and his friends. We had this kid in the
neighborhood that loved Jose Canseco and they would be like, dude,
we will give you a Jose Conseco rookie card if
you can knock us out, if you can beat us.
And this poor kid is three or four years younger
than them and could never beat him, and so they
would whoop his as every day and he would come
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back because he wanted that Jose Conzaco rookie and he
never got it. So yeah, So Scott, I feel for
you back wherever you are now, But boy, that was awesome.
So he got Rice got into it because he's tough
and he liked to wrestle. Macy, Why what drew you
to the sport of m m A Well, I started
at three years old and just martial arts is as
a thing that my parents put me in. And was
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it wrestling or martial arts? No, it was like karate,
a complete opposite right here. Okay, you got tough guy
over here and you got me, and it's like the karate.
So like in high school, did you wrestle? No? I
didn't know. Okay, So I started in karate when I
was three years old and I and I just grew
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up with my family members, my siblings, you know, we
all did it. Um. And when I was I kind
of went through a couple of different sports. Played soccer
a little bit, played or not played jump up. I
did jump up, a little bit, competitive jump roke, a
little bit of competitive jumper. You are the first competitive
up I met. Not many people do that. It's good
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for you. Yeah, it was really good for foot work,
um and good for showing off in the gym too,
that's true to um. No, Yes, I did karate all
the way until I was gosh, I eve ended up
all the way up until like a couple of years ago,
and I still I still have that background in me.
And you were one of the best karate people. I'm
a second Yeah, like with girls, you dominating, So I
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don't wonder if it's not really a competition, it's more
like it's all about belts. So I got a second
agree black belt in karate. I owned UM. I actually
owned a gym from two thousand ten till two thousand
and eight teen. We closed it down in December. Okay,
business owner, Yeah, my whole it was a family business.
And and we taught karate, we toached to and I
started in two thousand ten. Um I also started wrestling
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around two thousand ten with Ryan Schultz, who was UM amazing,
amazing wrestler for m M A and and he fought UM.
So you trained with dudes, yeah, because yeah, dominated sports.
So speaking of that, how how is it as a
female when someone says, oh, what do you do for
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a living? I'm fighting the UFC? What kind of looks
kind of award conversation, right, Because at the same time,
you don't want to tell them because you know that
they're like, uh, like I don't want to bring every
conversation about about yourself, right. So, like I was sitting
on the plane on the way here and I was
sitting next to her about and she was asking me,
and I I kind of explained it. We actually really connected.
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It was cool. She's cast from Wyoming and she she
was really neat, but um, it was It's always weird,
you know. You're like, I'm a m M A fighter.
She's like, you know, people are like you mean, you
get in a cage and you let them lock you
in there, Like why do you let them do that?
Like and get paid? And I kind of offered to
do that and I kind of asked for it, you know.
So um but yeah, I mean I grew up doing
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martial arts and uh, to me, the sport, the art
side of it is why I love it, you know.
I mean the fact that you can throw a jab
however many hundreds of times and still not have it
perfect is like why I love it because there's always
something to get better, there's always something to fix, there's
always something to grow, you know, Like even from a
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win or a loss, it doesn't matter. I haven't taken
too many losses. Even like my my winds, um, even
after my win, I'll watch the fight on me like, yeah,
I really don't like that, or I really, I really
think we need to fix that. And it's not because
I'm beating myself up and I'm not happy with the wind,
but I just see, you know, we just see so
many things in so many areas that we work on
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that we can just improve on. And um, I mean
that's I mean how much better does that get? You know,
you can just continue to build and build and build.
Hey have you ever sparred with Holly Homeah? Not round?
Just yeah, spared with Holly. I went worpyweight classes. It's
totally different. No, it's good. Um, I got to train
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down to Jackson Winkle quite a quite a bit. And
um I've trained with Holly Michelle after she'd beat her
on drowsy. Um. Who's when I was like sixteen is
when I went to you if that helps? That is
so crazy. You're fighting in the UFC and you're twenty
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years old, the youngest one right now, and you're a female,
which you know, it's crazy because it's really a male
dominated sport. So when it comes to dating life for
both of you guys, because fighting takes up I'm single
all your time. I mean, how many do you go
to the gym all morning, afternoon? Not? You have three
sessions usually right, two or three sessions a day? And
so how do you date? Or is it really you
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just date fighters? Well? Right now, I mean, I'm trying
to break the world record. So there's no time for
There's no time, no, not in time for anything other
than you know, family and super close friends. What's the
world record? John Jones has the youngest UFC champion twenty
three years and eight months, and I count out on
my phone if you'd like to see you're trying to
be Bones Jones? Right? You know I'm not trying. I'm
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going to that is dirt? Yeah, hell yeah? What about you?
How does that work? You don't want to hear about
my love life? Pretty crazy? Jerry Springer ship, Hey, don't
worry about it, dude. I've been on Jerry here. You
got crack corps over here. I don't want to hear it.
You don't want to hear about my choices? Yeah, I'm
telling you don't even want to hear about I tell you, So,
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how do you Brice? You say you've got crack horn
over here? What crazy girl over here? Do you go for?
The fans that slide into your d m s, that
hit you up on Instagram? Tell you why I deleted
all that? Um? I deleted all my social media. And
a common misconception is dudes can walk up to chicks
and say, hey, I'm a fighter. You know, I'm tough
and and you know, and and pick up chicks that way.
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It just don't work like that, like she said, it
ends up being awkward. Yeah, I've tried it. It don't work,
you know, like, hey, you know I'll protect you baby,
you know, yeah, I got you. Now they look at
you like, uh, I don't want to go along with you.
You might hurt me. You got some anger problems or something,
you know, So it's it just don't I try not
to bring it up. Like she said, it ends up
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being awkward. And so what do you do? Um? You
ever seen a boxer? You know, That's what I'll say.
I'll say, you try to relate to something something a
little bit more friendly because you say I'm a cage fighter,
and they think, oh, this dude to heathen, he's gonna
try to do something terrible yea, I'm kind of like
a boxer, but I can throw elbows and knees and
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I can kick him in the ship. I can kick
him with the kidney and you guys, I just want
to welcome Eddie of the show, just so you know,
Eddie did show back. Comes up? What's up? Sorry? Oh
did he tell you that already? Yeah, he's excited about that. Well,
they're already already discussed about how it's really you don't
understand their intelligence because it's really a chess match out there.
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They're playing chess and they have to be Eddie. I
gotta say this to you too, man. Uh you know,
we we do take brain damage. That's the entry cost
our sport. But think about this, Buying this room is
gonna die everybody. It's true. You got one life, bro,
do what you want to do. That's what I want
to do with my life. I want to do it
to make my family better, to make my life better.
I'm fighting for for hope, you know what I'm saying.
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For a better future. And uh, you could be the
safest little vegan out there and do everything perfectly and
live in your little bubble. Guess what you dine A
car wreck on the way to the Whole Foods. Let
me tell you anything this show, And let me tell
you I watched Brian, but how did you set me up?
Because it sounds like he's like exactly, I know I
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didn't say I said you good lunchbox. For quite a
few years, I watched Bryce on Ultimate Fighter. And let
me tell you. If there's someone that knows how to
have fun and find fun in anything, it's this guy.
Dude built I think I'm pretty sure you built a
raft out of water bottle that was okay? Well, I
mean now you were building raft, was making He made
a bow and arrow out of sticks in the back.
Are you snapping tree branches and making bow and arrow?
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Dude knows how to have fun from RC soul. So
I want to know, just like how you say you're
doing it for your family to make a better life,
how does the UFC contract work? You sign, okay, a
five fight deal? Do you get paid for that same
the same amount for those five fights no matter what
or if you're on the main card, you get paid more.
If you're the next main event, you get paid more.
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Is it negotiable? Every fight? Everything's negotiable? And I think
every athlete and every fighter is different. Um, how you
come in, how you you know every entry you know
there's some fighters, for instance, the Ultimate Fighter, I don't
know what your entry contract is, the Contender for the
Contender series. I mean we're a little bit different, you know,
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versus you know, someone who's brought been brought in from
the l F, A who who has a winning record
of let's say seventeen and whatever. Um, I mean everyone's
gonna be entry level is going to be different. Because
if you take a fighter who's twenty eight years old
and you give him an entry level of all right,
we're gonna give you five thousands show, five thousand win,
like that's I mean, his career is where is it?
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And his record is is speaking for itself. So he's
already on a has a successful record, so he obviously
is gonna get paid more than then someone who's coming
in at at seven and and four or seven and
two or whatever it is. Every every contract is going
to be different, and I have no idea what anyone
else is this, and I'll keep mind private. And but
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you know what I mean, like like that's everyone's different.
So it's hard to speak on that. But everything is negotiable.
And and the UFC takes care of takes care of
their athletes for sure. So do you have agents or
do you guys negotiate yourself. You sit down with Dana
White and say, look, they have we have managers, lawyers, yeah,
all of the above, yea, because when it comes to
that stuff, I don't need st Yeah, and we might
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be a little bit yeah, and I have to very
wordy or whatever you call it. And so like if
they did something like I was in a bad contract
one time, dude wouldn't let me out, And thank god
I got a manager because if I was face to
face for that dude, it would be it would be bad.
It would be it would be me threatening him and telling,
you know, and and it would be ugly. And so
I have a manager and mediator to do this for
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me so I don't have to worry about And he
actually ended up getting me out of contract. What would
have happened if if I didn't have that manager. It
would just get ugly, you know, because I would have
been like, hey, you're gonna let me out his contract
or it's you know, and it would have But that's
because you're a fighter. So you're a fighter, So that's
what we do. We are not the you know, we're
not the negotiators, and um, we we're trying to be
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smarter in that aspect, you know. But our job is
to fight. And if we're focusing on anything other than fighting,
than we're wasting our time. You know. We're trying to
be the best that we can be at what we're doing.
And if we're taking our time to to learn how
to negotiate or or better contract or get sponsors or
stuff like that, the way we get sponsors and the
way we get better negotiations is by winning fights. And
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the only way we can win fights is if we
train harder. And if we're training, we're not we don't
have time to focus on that side. So we hire
the best that we can possibly have at doing that.
Are you got scared of any buddy like like as
a fighter? You know what I mean? Because I watched
something and I watched they walk into the ring, and
I'm like, oh my god, I would not want to
see that guy in a dark alley or that girl
like you walk in. Are you ever scared when they
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say I want you to fight this person? Sed? No,
I mean you get to the physical symptoms of nervousness,
the journaline and the anxiousness. But scared of the other
human being. It's like I've pushed that out of my mind.
You know, my mother raised me better than that. I'm
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going on a battle. I'm not gonna let the fear
stop me. If the dude beats me, it's because he's
better than me, and he trained better and he just
got me that night. But it ain't because I was scared.
I cowered down. You know, that would be shameful of
my family. I'm going into battle to bring honor to
my family. You know, are you guys trash talkers? Like
when you you know, you see these press conferences where
they you know, they do the way ends all this?
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Are you trash talkers? Do your other appointment opponents? Are
you guys the ones that are just like you know what,
I'm gonna show up and fight, and let's me personally,
I feel like trash talking if it has a purpose.
If it has you know, if there's something to be
said that's complete honesty and there's a point behind it, sure,
I'll say whatever whatever needs to be said. But I
haven't had to do that, you know, I don't need
to to attack someone that I know I'm going in
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the ring to fight anyway, So there's no reason to like,
you know, hey, I'm gonna fight you and let me
let me try to get under your skin. I mean,
I know that you're going to both be in the
same cage at the same time. So I don't feel
like I need to build anything up. Now. If someone
starts to attack me, I'm gonna definitely fire back or
or say what I feel is the truth. Um, but
I don't feel like you need to like build something
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up and start just throwing. So you're fighting j J
this weekend, so you don't think you need to start
some psychological warfare with her. Yeah, No, I have nothing
negative to say about her. You know, I've been around
her a little bit and trained with her a little bit.
And that's weird. That's weird about your sport. That is
weird about m m A and makes Martial Arts is
you guys trained together sort of like in the Tough House,
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and then you trained together, you trained together and fight
each other. So so I don't know anything about j
J outside of outside of you know, I've seen a
few times in the gym I worked her a little bit, um,
and that was a couple of years ago. And to me,
I don't have to attack her. I have nothing to
attack her on. I mean, she's lived her life however,
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she's built herself up. I mean I give credit her.
I mean, she's just trying to do the same thing
I'm trying to do. You know, every single fighter is
trying to do the same thing. We're all trying to
make our lives better. There's no reason to attack each
other's personal lives. Um, if we're trying to talk crap though, Like, uh,
the only thing I could say if I was trying
to build up a hype is and it's the truth
is I have fought three, uh three out of four.
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This is the third person out of that camp that
I fought. So I I beat Audrey Perkins, I beat
Mallory and Martin. Now I'm beating J. J. Aldrich and
then I'll go to uh the last one, which is
rosnom Units sometime when I moved back down to one fifteen. Um,
that's the only thing you know that we can really
build off of. They all come from the same gym,
their team that comes together. You know, rose I heard
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is gonna be here for this fight. And she's been
in the crowd three times when the third the third
time that she's in the crowd when I fight and
I and I went over an opponent of her, training
training partner of her. So, um, so you wanted to
rename it Macy Barber Jim when you beat up their
whole camp? I mean, have you got to you? Guys
can all do that. But you don't need a name
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anything After me, Everyone's gonna know who I am. And
probably what about you in the cage? Do you guys
ever like when you're fighting, some fighters are laughing there.
It seems like they're talking trash to each other in
the fight. Do you do you ever have that? I
don't believe in all that mental warfare stuff just because
I know it don't affect me at zero if anything,
just pisses me off, and you know, and like that's
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why I don't believe in it. You know, It's like
I just literally don't believe that. Running your mouth now,
I do believe it. It boost ticket sales and stuff
like that. So maybe that the dudes that are doing
it are are doing it the boost ticket sales, But
he won't see me, uh talking bad about people of
their family, their country, their religion. In fact, you you'll
probably see me, if anything, complimenting them that. You know.
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I've said nothing bad about Bobby. I've said he's good.
I've said he might beat me. I don't know. You know,
I'm gonna give him a hell of a run, I'll
put it that way, you know. But I'm not saying
anything bad about him. He said he's gonna finish me
in the second round, you know. He says he's gonna
choke me out. My cardio is bad, all this stuff.
I don't care to say anything bad about him. I'm
just all. All I gotta say is I'm gonna try
to finish him. That's all it needs to be said.
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I don't believe in that mental warfare ship, you know,
because I know it don't work on me. What you know,
it just when people talk all that. I've I've had
people talk crap for me my whole life. When I
was a little kid on the back of the bus,
people talk ship to me, get off the bus and
whoop their ass, you know what I'm saying. I just
don't believe in none of that, you know, So that
that's that leaves My question is like, you know, we
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think it's weird because it's fighting. You know, it's this fighting.
Those kids we fought because we get piste off at someone,
so let's fight. But this is a sport like this
is is there any emotion like in that fight? Like
that do you have to mentally just yourself mentally look
at the other person and be like, I'm gonna hate
you for I don't hate. I don't hate my opponents
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like I don't. I don't feel that. And I've had
people ask me, like when they you talk to them
about fighting, they're like, what did you have anger management
problems as a child or something. You're like, you know,
they ask you, and you're like, no, I'm not an
angry person. And and a lot of people are shocked
when they hear you know that you're a fighter, and
they're like, you don't look like a fighter, you don't
talk like a fighter, you don't you act like one,
Like you just look like this this girl that's you know,
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you never you know, you could never do that, and um,
and then they see the fights and they're like, holy cow,
like what in the world, Like you just moved that
woman and honestly, Like, I don't know how to explain it,
but it's just not you know, it's not something that
like I'm angry about. You know, you do get anxious,
you do get the nerves and the ups and downs
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to the roller coaster, but it's not Yeah then they
You're just trying to go out and one not take
damage and finish something as fast you can because you
know that the more you finish, the more you have success,
the better you're gonna make money, you're gonna have um,
you're gonna be healthier better. Yeah, I'm gonna get that
this weekend. And uh as it does, it helps everyone. Um.
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But yeah, I don't have any like anger, but I
have had someone talk trash to me in a fight before.
That's weird. And as a fighter, when you when you're
fighting someone and you and you're just you know, you
you can feel that moment you break their will in
the ring or you bust them open. What is the feeling?
Like how good of a feeling is it to see
their blood scored out? Oh my gosh, I live for that. Okay,
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Now that's the other side of me, Like when as
soon as I see blood, like I start crying one
of my advices. Um. In the video, you can see
I had this girl, I had her back and I
had cut her open with an elbow and she was
bleeding on the floor and I literally like looked at
it and then I continued And I didn't even like
intentionally like look at it, but it was just something
that happened to My dad was watching the video back.
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He's like, you do realize you like looked at her
blood and then like that like kind of like made
you go. But I do. I get so excited, like
if I would much rather fight, and I want it
in my contract, my UFC contract. If anyone who's going
to renegotiate my contract is listening, I want to wear
white every single time because when I'm in a war
and a in a one side of war where I
make someone bloody, I want that blood on my clothes,
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like I want it to be seen that I was
in a war and then I finished that fight. That way,
when I hang my clothes up in the in my
in a case, you know, if I have black clothes
in my case, it's like, oh, this looks new. I
don't want it to look at I want to bloody
so on both sides. If you're the one with the blood,
does that mess with you? Like if there's blood falling
in your eyes and you can't see any stars yet? No, no, no,
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I'm not asking you. Press you. Yeah, I've definitely been
bleeding in some fights. Um, you know, if it gets
in your vision, it's a problem. And I ain't never
been in my vision before. Uh keep it that way, yeah, exactly,
And um, you know it's it kind of goes to
your head because you don't know, and a lot of
times you don't even feel pain like you normally feel it.
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Like I remember getting a big old cut in one
of my fights. I didn't know that I was bleeding. Well,
this happening two of my fights. Um, I didn't know
there was blood until I feel it dripping on my
foot because I'm standing there and it's dripping and I
feel something on my toes and we're on the cage
and it's like I look down and there's blood on
my toes. Well, I know it's coming from up here.
And my forehead is kind of warm, but it don't
feel like pain. It just feels like kind of warm.
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And then you start thinking, well, how big is that cut?
You know, I don't know if it's bigger. You can't
see it, you can't feel it, you don't you know,
you just it's you gotta wait till you get your
corner and they can tell you yeah. And and I'll
tell you the most satisfying punch for me is A
is A is a body shot. And the reason is is, yeah,
I just just watching them fold over and um. The
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reason being is because you know, I don't if I
don't take their health into consideration at all. I'm not
saying that I'm throwing anything I can to hurt them.
They're doing that to hurt me. But reason I like
body shots because I know it don't hurt him like
it really, it don't hurt. It just temporarily hurts something.
And so it's it's like it'll you have a little
bit of a heart. If I got to pick how
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I finished a dude and he's just like a buddy
of mine. I picked body shots because I know it's
a temporary thing. It's just gonna hurt his body, he's
gonna fold. I'm gonna keep pounding on him if it's
gonna be done. Versus like if I really didn't like
the dude, he was really talking about my mama and
uh all that stuff. I pick head kick. I try
to knock you out with the hardest kick I got.
I'm trying to make you retarded, you know, uh, because
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you talk about my mama like that and uh. But
if it's just uh, if it's just like a I
don't want to hurt him. So for me, the most
satisfying punch is just that body shot, because I know
it's like, I didn't really kill this dude. I didn't
do anything bad to him. I go to sleep night knowing, Okay,
he's fining and break his jaw. Didn't do nothing to him.
I just hurt his body. He's gonna get back up
and he's okay, you know. And I love those body shots,
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just sinking him in. I love him. Any good question,
you guys um like we're huge better is on this
show we usually don't touch the UFC because we don't
know that much about it. Lunch is probably the most
expert wise about it. Do you guys ever look at
betting lines you know you're the favorite underdog or do
you just I mean, your coaches tell you, hey, this
guy is a little bit better than you. You You gotta
really how do you how do your great question? Because
I mean, there are betting lines out on you guys.
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I was just care I bet I bet every weekend.
Well we already know who you're betting on this weekend. Yeah. Yeah,
I'm the underdog, man, I'm worth more money. Man, That's
the story of my life. Man, I'm the underdome, the
bum from Arkansas straight out the trailer. You know what
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I'm saying. I don't care, you know, say I'm the underdog.
I'm gonna go in there and fight the same either way.
I'm giving everything I got. I don't care if I'm
underdog or not. What about the crowd? When the crowd booze?
Do you guys hear that? And are you like shut up?
Like you get out here and try this crap like
we are doing. Like, how do you feel about that? Yeah?
I mean, but at the same time, they pay our
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you know, they pay our salaries, you know, so does
piss you off? I mean, I guess it would be
like the equivalent of getting into an argument with your
grocery bag or at Walmart. You know, It's like you
could you could get mad at your grocery bag or
she could get mad at you. But at the end
of the day, I'm the customer, you know, I'm you know,
so it is what it is. They're they're the ones
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paying us. They got the right to boo all they want.
But when did you and we got mad? They're still watching?
When when did you all find out this was in Nashville?
Was it always going to be in Nashville for months
or did you just kind of find out, Oh that
one was in Nashville, like your request because it's close
to Arkansas. Yeah, because he was he was his family. Yeah.
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I beg. Yeah, when I knew that I was finding
they didn't want to put me on here because I
ain't weren't to piss you know all that. Wait, I
don't know, you know. They was like, we don't know
if we can get you on there. If I was
some big name, they take it like that, you know
what I'm saying. But I'm, like I said, I'm the underdog.
Nobody cares about me. I had to beg and beg
and beg. I hit my manager up five times a day,
say hey, man, give me on the Nashville car. Give
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me on the Nashville car. Because I wanted my friends,
my family be able to watch and win, loser, draw,
It don't matter, man, it's going out there and fighting
with honor. Hey do you guys? Like I was wondering, like, um,
what was I gonna say? Oh? Did you abstain from
like drinking? And like wait wait wait wait, we gotta
did you have to talk about the study or anything
about the study we found out about? Oh? Yeah, just
so you know, they came up some athletes like Muhammad
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Ali and like the England soccer team in two thousand
and ten, they would have stained from sex leading up
just major sporting events because they thought it would make
him perform better. Just to let you know, they published
a study this week that it has no effects. So
if you are planning on hooking up this already knew that. Brother.
Do you all not drink or maybe just once a week?
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You really hold off on it? Okay, So I'll tell
you what though. Um, I heard that red wine once
a once a week, couple times a week, a little
glass of its actually good for you. So I'm down
to drink a glass of red wine every other day
something like that, because I mean, it's not enough to
get you drunk. And I have to do crease your
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performance actually good for your heart has something called reserve
troll or something like that. I ain't a doctor, but
you know that's close. So question what is your diet
like though? The Are you hardcore all the time or
only when you're in training for a fight? Are you
strict diet five days? And you have to worry about
weight so much? Have you guys already weight in? Yeah?
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So y'all are hungry right now? You don't. I have
to artificially boost my weight. I'm a little skinny sucker,
and if I don't make myself eat, I'll with it away,
I'll turn. I mean, I'm just skinny. I'm like a twig.
If I have to make sure that I'm eating enough,
because I could go down a weight classes and I
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have to kill myself. And so I would rather lift weights,
boost my weight artificially, and actually make myself eat a
little bit more. So I'm on the opposite end of this,
and you see a lot more people doing that instead
of killing themselves because that you cut all that weight
and then you can't take a hit. Then you look
just in the ring and you take so long to
bounce back, and it's so bad on the fighter. Sometimes
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they because they cut fifteen pounds and then to put
it on and then you get and you're just sluggish.
And that's why I would rather hit the weights, make
myself eat extra. So I'm on the opposite internet scale
if I don't, If I don't eat, man, I'll wither away.
I'll go in there too small. What's your weight class?
One forty five? Yeah, damn. I would have to drop
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thirty pounds to fight this dude. Here's another thing, the
different class. I ain't fighting, No, no, no, is that
bones Jones? He would kill me. You would kill the
main event Pettis and wonder Boy. Yeah, wonder Boy, I
trust me, you'll definitely be the underdog. So man, So
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let's talk about like friends and family. When you say
you want your friends and family to come, do you
get them all free tickets? The most I hate to
be negative about. That's just the most annoying things asking
you for tickets like, I ain't ticket master, man, I
don't got no tickets. What the hell are you talking about?
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I barely made it on the car. They ain't gonna
give me no tickets, you know. But I had dozens
of people asking hey man, can I get my tickets
from you? Can I get my tickets from you? I
don't got any tickets, you know. Yeah, I think we
we made it to the level where we were not
dealing with that anymore. I mean, it definitely helps when
you have a fan base and they well I'm not
talking fans, I'm talking friends and families. Yeah, in terms
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of that, like we don't like my family is coming,
they give us a certain amount of tickets, but that's
close family because you can't you can't give it to
more ghost friends and then the brother you know, like
it's it's just you know, it's a family time, it's
a personal time, and and you want the people that
you have closest to you who have gone on this
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journey with you forever and and to me, that's who
I you know, who gets my tickets? I mean my
family gets all my tickets. And and I do have
some some really close family friends that that if I could,
I'd give them. Got you So what besides fighting? We
talked a lot about fighting, but you guys, what do
you do outside of fighting to relax and just enjoy life?
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Like what is your get away from fighting? Or do
you have a getaway from fighting or is it fighting
is all I care about? Family? But life like this,
this is fighting is our life. I mean, this is
our career and we don't have that long if you
really look at it, my career is you know, it's
probably only ten more years. So if I can take
the ten years out of my life and and maximize
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it and family and I'll all of that, um and
that's me. I have a long time. You know. There's
some fighters in here, there are, and they don't have
un till their thirty. They don't. They don't have that
much time. So I feel like if you're if you're
on the farther end of the sport, you definitely have
to sacrifice a ton. And yeah, yeah, yeah, the training
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and everything cuts into all the stuff that you like
to I like to hunt like the fish, like to
build stuff, work on stuff. I like to stay busy.
I feel like if I'm just sitting around, I'm just
wasting time. You know. I want to be doing stuff.
And uh, lately I've been building the roof put over
my trailer. It's most satisfying. I could work on that
roof all day. I want to. I wanna skip training
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to work on that roof. I just love doing I'm
putting up in wood. I feel like some engineer or something.
You know, I'm not, but I feel like, yeah, it's in.
It's an escape. But yeah, you gotta quit working on
your roof. You gotta tell your buddies you can't go fishing.
You gotta tell the beautiful women you can't take her
out to not you know, because you gotta go train.
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It's tough, and it's hard because a lot of people
don't understand that. They don't get it. They don't get it,
you know. They're like, oh, it's just one training session,
it's just one workout, and you're like, yeah, that one
workout is my job. People don't look at it, but
that's our job. Our job is to fight in. Our
job is to be successful. And if if we're going
to be successful, that that we have to go to
the gym. You know, we have to put in the work.
We have to train and h just like you guys,
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you know you can't. You can't skip work to go
out and go to the movies with your buddies or
go to the movies with your friends or whoever. Um so,
I mean, you skip work enough times, you're gonna people see.
People see the glory when you're when you're under the lights,
you're in the cage. They don't see the hard work
behind the scenes that you're putting in day in and
day out. And before you go, I got one question,
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because I've always one one You've asked fifty Well, guys,
I'm so fascinating, Like I love this stuff. Okay, So
how do you toughen up your jaw? Or do? Is
your jobs as tough as it? You were just born
that way? Like you. I don't think you can necessarily.
You can't make yourself that much tougher. I mean, if
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you gotta, if you've got a good change, you just
next strength. And yeah, I mean there are things you
can do. But the end of the day, I move
your head. Yeah I understand that. But I watched people
take huge shots and not go down, and I am
just like, how the Justin Gauge, For sure, I'm like,
how the hell do you stay alive and just keep
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punching back Like I mean, it looks like your jaw
should shut. People are just freaks of nature, and Justin
gai Is one of them. Was a good one. Oh
my god, Chris throw that left hand and you just
stand there and just pound and he didn't care if
there was blood running everywhere. It was he was fun
to watch, fun to watch, But you know, at the
same time, there's some of the people that you get
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the most scared and more sad for it, because you're like,
I don't want you to keep taking damage. The more
the tougher you are and the less you go out,
the more brain damage you're gonna take. So if you're
taking that much damage and you're not going on, I'd
rather see you get hit with one shot and get
and get laid out. You're not taking fifty blows of
the head and going to have brain Do you instruct
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your corner to never throw in the towel because I
feel like in the UFC, no one like like people
are getting killed and they wait for the ref But
there are sometimes I feel like the the corners could
throw in the towel and say, hey, stop this, my
guy has my guy or girl has no chance. Do
you tell your corner never throw the towel. That's that's
up to them. I've seen fights where I was glad
as a fighter watching another fighter lose so bad I
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was like, Uh, I was glad that their corner through
in the towel. I was glad for him. I was supported.
I've seen fights the other way. I was like, man,
I would have thrown in the towel if I was
that that dudes coach. That's up to them. You know.
I completely trust this dude my life. Um So you
know I ain't gonna complain if I'm getting beat that bad.
It is what it is. It's because he wants to
see fight another day. Hey, when y'all watch UFC on
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the weekends Friday Saturday night, you watch it at your
house with your trainer. You at a bar and just watch, okay,
because if you're at a bar like that would make
you mad, Like if you're drinking, like you really get
do not drink? They listen, they train, They just got
this image in his mind, let me have it in
the bar, and then they want to knock someone. But
if I was to sit at a bar and watch
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the fights, everybody would be watching me because I fitched
way too much. Like I'm like moving for them and
like trying to fight, but it doesn't work because I
can't video game. Yeah, I'm like this this controller's Dick,
do you have people test you on the street, Like
people on the street, but oh, you're a fighter, you
think you're a tough guy. I would think people would
try to poke at you just approve like up. Yeah,
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that's why I don't bring it up. You know, I've
had street fights. If that's what you're asking. You know,
if they don't train, they're in trouble man. Kind Of like,
if you're a fighter, you kind of don't say it.
Kind Of like if you're a young kid and you're
like a black belt, you kind of shouldn't wear your
black belt around because you're gonna get picked on by everyone.
They're gonna be like, oh, you're black belt hind Yeah, like,
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oh that looks like fun. Let me pick it you
a little bit. Well, Bryce Mitchell, Macy Barber, good luck
this weekend Mask Beat the Man. Hey, listen, guys, tune
in ESPN Plus this weekend Saturday The Fights Thompson versus Pettis.
These guys are gonna be fighting, whooping out and listen.
And when you guys watched them, you're gonna be like, man,
they were on the sword losers and we you're gonna
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have so many more fans like three d We have
three thirty people that listen to this. Maybe better follow
me on Instagram then your instagramcy Barber, you don't have
to no no special handle, just follow my name. That's it, right,
and notorious are fuggish? What was your There's nothing on there, dude.
You gotta do updates on that. No, no, he deleted
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and he got on social media. But before you go,
we at the beginning of the show, we usually play
a game and it's called would you rather? So we're
gonna play it in the end because these are terrible,
by the way, So would you rather pee out your
nose or poop out your ear? See? P out my nose?
And why because it's paying up poop. I'm with him, Okay, yeah,
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I think because I'm all about I'm about pooping out
the ear because pe it's gonna stay right there and
you're gonna kind of taste it in your mouth. The
poop just going out your ear. To me, you don't
have any leftover residue on your upper lip. Right, He
does come He comes up with it every day and
it's but we want to thank you guys so much,
like this was so much fun. Sorry for keeping you
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for like almost an hour when you need to be
You need to get rest. You got trained to do,
you got you know meals. But you guys are so
Macie Macie Barber on Instagram and Bryce Mitchell doesn't have anything.
Just bet, just bet the underdog. Listen, guys, do a
little parlay this weekend. Macie Barber and Bryce Mitchell. You're
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gonna lock it up if you if you wanted me
to lock it up. Guys, you're gonna need to parlay.
This is two bets. You got Bryce and then you
also got Macy. You're gonna parlay it to our guy
who keeps tracking these. These are two individual bets, but
you're gonna parlay it. Lock it up. You're almost gonna
win triple your money. So bet both of those was
watch it, enjoy it. UFC Fight Night one, Fort Thompson First, Pettis,
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go ahead and go ahead and do it. Okay, So guys,
go ahead and lock it up. I'm going with Pettis,
No idiot, what are you talking about? I just locked
You didn't say. You didn't say lock it up to them.
That's what you didn't say. Okay, I'll be there on Saturday.
So enjoy Gods. Thank you so much. We're out here.
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That's the buzzer.