Fresh from his trip to Japan, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon yesterday announced a new 'young serious offender' category, as well as more beat police in cities across New Zealand.
Newstalk ZB political editor Jason Walls joined Adam Cooper to talk through the announcements, as well as what we can expect in Parliament this week.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talks EDB Direct from News Talks edb's team
at Parliament The Beehive Buzz.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes at a time to head across town find out
what is the buzz at the Beehive Heading into another
week which I think four days, but it does both
to be pretty busy. Our political editor, of course, is
Jason Wall's Morning to you.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Jason. So you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm good mates, and how are you? You're settled back
home now after all the drama and excitement of the
plane and everything else last week?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yes, settled back in. I've had a couple of nice
days off. In fact, this morning I was out at
the Shandon Golf Club hitting a couple of balls around.
So I'm well relaxed now and ready for another rearing
dean in the halls of power.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah. What did you feel that the country got out
of last week and the PM's trip around sort of
those areas including Asia, aside from obviously the obvious elephant
in the room regarding the.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Plane, Well, honestly, I would say that's probably the main
thing we got out of. It was yet another news
cycle about how much we need a new plane or
some sort of plan around chartering a plane when the
Prime minister goes overseas. In terms of logistically what was achieved,
I mean, you have to look at what was agreed
upon in that meeting with Fumiyo Kashita, who is the
Japanese Prime Minister right at the end of the trip
(01:29):
with Luxen in terms of that information sharing agreement and
information sharing agreement that I will note that was started
when Jacinda Ardun went to Japan a few years ago
and she kicked it off. So basically Chris Luxan was
just bookending that and saying that the work had been
done and that's all done and dusted now. And it
came at the same time as that Vladimir Putin was
in Pyongyang talking to Kim Jong un, and obviously that
(01:53):
sent some ripples around the West in terms of some
worries about nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles. And I'm sure
they were sitting over there in their big palaces thinking,
oh no, not New Zealand. I hope they're not involved
in terms of the intelligent sharing with Japan. What are
we going to do now? And obviously I'm being facetious there.
I think we get a lot more out of this
than the Japanese do. But you have to look at
(02:14):
the media at the trip as a whole, and I
do think it's a little bit ironic because there was
the comments that Christopher Luxon made to me in an
interview where he called the delegations that went in the
past the sea list and a bit watered down and
tag alongs. And I thought the phrase tag along was
a bit ironic for the Prime Minister, given that he
was a bit of a tag along when it came
to a lot of the business announcements. I mean, Rocket
(02:36):
Lab would have made their announcement with the Japanese company
whether the Prime Minister was there or not, so you know,
it was being there on the ground getting some FaceTime
with the Japanese Prime minister. You always have to count
that as a win. But I think this trip is
going to be remembered for a the plane and b
those sealister comments.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yes, okay, well we'll see how that plays out through
the week. And obviously he was straight back into his
work yesterday linking up with Mark Mitchell and Karen Shaw
was well. The latest sort of steps on the so
called law and order crack down. What do you think
reaction to this is going to be. Is it made
the impact a lot of people might have been hoping for.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Well. To be honest, the first thing I thought about
these beat cops being deployed into the main centers in Wellington,
christ Church and Auckland is why did it take the
government to step in to do this. I mean, I'm
sure you're like me. I was out on Saturday night
and I was leaving at a reasonable hour, I will
say to all your listeners, but I was walking home
through Courtney Place and it's a disaster. It is honestly
(03:32):
an unsafe place to be and you're constantly feeling on edge.
I'm wondering why the government needed to step in to
do this, and the police couldn't have just done it themselves.
I mean, you look at how bad it is in Wellington.
It's about fourteen times worse up in Auckland. I mean,
the central city is an absolute disaster zone in terms
of how dangerous it is and how aggressive some of
those people that just live and hang out in this
(03:54):
central city with nothing much else to do but to
harass other people. So I don't know why it took
the government to step in to do this, but I'm
glad that they finally decided that they need to up
the security in those areas because they've become well and
truly disaster zone. And then that's Karen shaw announcements in
terms of the youth offender. Look, we knew that was coming.
In terms of those boot camps. It was a slow
(04:18):
start starting in Palmiston north of the Pilot and there's
going to have to be some legislation, so it's going
to be contentious to debate in the Parliament. But you know,
every day New Zealanders are waking up to these horrific
stories about crime and these low lifes that think that
they can just go around and commit violence and all
sorts of various different acts against innocent people and get
away with it. I think it's long overdue that we
(04:38):
had some sort of strong crackdown. I think this is
a small start that they should probably do a little
bit more of, if I'm honest.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, and Parliament back this week. So obviously a lot
of these issues Jace are going to be front and center.
But how much do you think the fairies will be
sort of on the minds of cabinets when they meet today,
or of the Prime Minister when he fronts the media
post cabinet. How significant is this going to be as
these next few days play out.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Oh, I think fairly significant. I mean, it's another embarrassment
for the government and I don't think anybody listening to
this will be necessary really blaming this government in terms
of saying it Simeon Brown or the Prime Minister's fault. Wait,
Basically what it is is it's alec legacy of failing
to invest in New Zealand infrastructure. And we saw that
not just with the plane, not just with the ferry,
(05:20):
but that I mean, I think that pylon up north
that was more of a a cock op than a
conspiracy in terms of that one. We're waiting for the
result on that, but it just goes to show that
there's a lot that we haven't invested in. I think
the conversation this week will really hone in on investment
into infrastructure. It's going to hone in on law and order,
and I think that the Prime Minister is probably going
(05:41):
to get an earfull at question time on Tuesday and
Wednesday about those sealister comments as well. So it's going
to be a week on the defense of for the government.
But I would say they've made a good start in
terms of law and order, and I think the vast
majority of people that are waking up, as the Prime
Minister said, some people, if you're in the CBDs scared
to go to work, will be applauding this announcement and
saying good more of that.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, exactly what else is sort of on the on
the agenda as the House scatters again?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, well, we had Scrutiny Week last week. I wasn't
here for that because I was in Japan, but it
was basically an elongated select committee process with hundreds of
hours of one hundred and thirty hours I think it
was hours of MP's fronting up various different select committees
to ask questions about what the MP's asked questions about
what they were up to in their various different portfolios.
(06:30):
So there could be a little bit more carry on
from that in terms of some of the narratives that
would discuss those select committees. But I would expect to
see sort of a lot of hitting the ground just
before they go on another big recess in a few
weeks time, another three week recess block. This type of
year is a bit unusual because we have the Easter
holidays and then the Prime Minister has indicated that he
(06:51):
wants to go over to Washington for the NATO summit
as well, so a lot to look out for.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Oh you'll be applying for that trip, ah may.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
If I can get there, I'll be there. There's nothing
I like more than yards and yards of security checks
every ten minutes at the airport's following me down.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It's what I live for, exactly and just for you guy, Jason.
I assume the pmill doing his usual postcab today, where
I think a few people be interested to see what
comments he does make. What what's the timing of that
today after cabinet meeting?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, yeah, be four o'clock at postcap Todays is the
usual time, so expect to see the Prime Minister there
with one of his ministers. Maybe if his announcement or
the announcement yesterday was quite meeky, so he might just
be coming out to have a bit of a bit
of a yarn to reporters. So keep an ear out.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Britdie mate. I know you'll cover it off brilliantly as always.
Thanks for your time Jays, have a great week.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Thanks, see you later.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Cheers. Jason Wall's News Talks he'd be's political editor with
us as yeah, politicians and well the government I think
prepares for a weake of busyness, awake of some hard
questions and some scrutiny around a whole bunch of issues.
So we will see how that plays out through the week.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
For more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills, listen live
to News Talks It'd be Wellington from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talks EDB Direct from News Talks edb's team
at Parliament The Beehive Buzz.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes at a time to head across town find out
what is the buzz at the Beehive Heading into another
week which I think four days, but it does both
to be pretty busy. Our political editor, of course, is
Jason Wall's Morning to you.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Jason. So you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm good mates, and how are you? You're settled back
home now after all the drama and excitement of the
plane and everything else last week?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yes, settled back in. I've had a couple of nice
days off. In fact, this morning I was out at
the Shandon Golf Club hitting a couple of balls around.
So I'm well relaxed now and ready for another rearing
dean in the halls of power.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah. What did you feel that the country got out
of last week and the PM's trip around sort of
those areas including Asia, aside from obviously the obvious elephant
in the room regarding the.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Plane, Well, honestly, I would say that's probably the main
thing we got out of. It was yet another news
cycle about how much we need a new plane or
some sort of plan around chartering a plane when the
Prime minister goes overseas. In terms of logistically what was achieved,
I mean, you have to look at what was agreed
upon in that meeting with Fumiyo Kashita, who is the
Japanese Prime Minister right at the end of the trip
(01:29):
with Luxen in terms of that information sharing agreement and
information sharing agreement that I will note that was started
when Jacinda Ardun went to Japan a few years ago
and she kicked it off. So basically Chris Luxan was
just bookending that and saying that the work had been
done and that's all done and dusted now. And it
came at the same time as that Vladimir Putin was
in Pyongyang talking to Kim Jong un, and obviously that
(01:53):
sent some ripples around the West in terms of some
worries about nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles. And I'm sure
they were sitting over there in their big palaces thinking,
oh no, not New Zealand. I hope they're not involved
in terms of the intelligent sharing with Japan. What are
we going to do now? And obviously I'm being facetious there.
I think we get a lot more out of this
than the Japanese do. But you have to look at
(02:14):
the media at the trip as a whole, and I
do think it's a little bit ironic because there was
the comments that Christopher Luxon made to me in an
interview where he called the delegations that went in the
past the sea list and a bit watered down and
tag alongs. And I thought the phrase tag along was
a bit ironic for the Prime Minister, given that he
was a bit of a tag along when it came
to a lot of the business announcements. I mean, Rocket
(02:36):
Lab would have made their announcement with the Japanese company
whether the Prime Minister was there or not, so you know,
it was being there on the ground getting some FaceTime
with the Japanese Prime minister. You always have to count
that as a win. But I think this trip is
going to be remembered for a the plane and b
those sealister comments.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yes, okay, well we'll see how that plays out through
the week. And obviously he was straight back into his
work yesterday linking up with Mark Mitchell and Karen Shaw
was well. The latest sort of steps on the so
called law and order crack down. What do you think
reaction to this is going to be. Is it made
the impact a lot of people might have been hoping for.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Well. To be honest, the first thing I thought about
these beat cops being deployed into the main centers in Wellington,
christ Church and Auckland is why did it take the
government to step in to do this. I mean, I'm
sure you're like me. I was out on Saturday night
and I was leaving at a reasonable hour, I will
say to all your listeners, but I was walking home
through Courtney Place and it's a disaster. It is honestly
(03:32):
an unsafe place to be and you're constantly feeling on edge.
I'm wondering why the government needed to step in to
do this, and the police couldn't have just done it themselves.
I mean, you look at how bad it is in Wellington.
It's about fourteen times worse up in Auckland. I mean,
the central city is an absolute disaster zone in terms
of how dangerous it is and how aggressive some of
those people that just live and hang out in this
(03:54):
central city with nothing much else to do but to
harass other people. So I don't know why it took
the government to step in to do this, but I'm
glad that they finally decided that they need to up
the security in those areas because they've become well and
truly disaster zone. And then that's Karen shaw announcements in
terms of the youth offender. Look, we knew that was coming.
In terms of those boot camps. It was a slow
(04:18):
start starting in Palmiston north of the Pilot and there's
going to have to be some legislation, so it's going
to be contentious to debate in the Parliament. But you know,
every day New Zealanders are waking up to these horrific
stories about crime and these low lifes that think that
they can just go around and commit violence and all
sorts of various different acts against innocent people and get
away with it. I think it's long overdue that we
(04:38):
had some sort of strong crackdown. I think this is
a small start that they should probably do a little
bit more of, if I'm honest.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, and Parliament back this week. So obviously a lot
of these issues Jace are going to be front and center.
But how much do you think the fairies will be
sort of on the minds of cabinets when they meet today,
or of the Prime Minister when he fronts the media
post cabinet. How significant is this going to be as
these next few days play out.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Oh, I think fairly significant. I mean, it's another embarrassment
for the government and I don't think anybody listening to
this will be necessary really blaming this government in terms
of saying it Simeon Brown or the Prime Minister's fault. Wait,
Basically what it is is it's alec legacy of failing
to invest in New Zealand infrastructure. And we saw that
not just with the plane, not just with the ferry,
(05:20):
but that I mean, I think that pylon up north
that was more of a a cock op than a
conspiracy in terms of that one. We're waiting for the
result on that, but it just goes to show that
there's a lot that we haven't invested in. I think
the conversation this week will really hone in on investment
into infrastructure. It's going to hone in on law and order,
and I think that the Prime Minister is probably going
(05:41):
to get an earfull at question time on Tuesday and
Wednesday about those sealister comments as well. So it's going
to be a week on the defense of for the government.
But I would say they've made a good start in
terms of law and order, and I think the vast
majority of people that are waking up, as the Prime
Minister said, some people, if you're in the CBDs scared
to go to work, will be applauding this announcement and
saying good more of that.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, exactly what else is sort of on the on
the agenda as the House scatters again?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, well, we had Scrutiny Week last week. I wasn't
here for that because I was in Japan, but it
was basically an elongated select committee process with hundreds of
hours of one hundred and thirty hours I think it
was hours of MP's fronting up various different select committees
to ask questions about what the MP's asked questions about
what they were up to in their various different portfolios.
(06:30):
So there could be a little bit more carry on
from that in terms of some of the narratives that
would discuss those select committees. But I would expect to
see sort of a lot of hitting the ground just
before they go on another big recess in a few
weeks time, another three week recess block. This type of
year is a bit unusual because we have the Easter
holidays and then the Prime Minister has indicated that he
(06:51):
wants to go over to Washington for the NATO summit
as well, so a lot to look out for.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Oh you'll be applying for that trip, ah may.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
If I can get there, I'll be there. There's nothing
I like more than yards and yards of security checks
every ten minutes at the airport's following me down.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It's what I live for, exactly and just for you guy, Jason.
I assume the pmill doing his usual postcab today, where
I think a few people be interested to see what
comments he does make. What what's the timing of that
today after cabinet meeting?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, yeah, be four o'clock at postcap Todays is the
usual time, so expect to see the Prime Minister there
with one of his ministers. Maybe if his announcement or
the announcement yesterday was quite meeky, so he might just
be coming out to have a bit of a bit
of a yarn to reporters. So keep an ear out.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Britdie mate. I know you'll cover it off brilliantly as always.
Thanks for your time Jays, have a great week.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Thanks, see you later.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Cheers. Jason Wall's News Talks he'd be's political editor with
us as yeah, politicians and well the government I think
prepares for a weake of busyness, awake of some hard
questions and some scrutiny around a whole bunch of issues.
So we will see how that plays out through the week.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
For more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills, listen live
to News Talks It'd be Wellington from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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