It's Scott Robertson's first test as All Blacks coach tomorrow night, and all eyes are on Dunedin to see how his new team performs.
Live from Dunedin, Weekend Sport host Jason Pine joined Nick Mills to preview the match, alongside Wellington's All Sport Breakfast host Adam Cooper.
Also discussed was the Tall Blacks' loss to Slovenia overnight, killing the team's hopes of an Olympic appearance.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talk Sat B. The Friday Sport kickoff on
Wellington Morning with Rstling, Handle and Vain leave your fleet
management repairs to them.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Exciting time and sport this weekend, really exciting time. Joining
us for Friday Sports this weekend is Jason Pine from Dunedin.
Good morning Jason, Good morning Nick and All Sports Breakfast
host Adam Cooper in the studio with me Adam.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Good morning Boddy, Nick, you turn your bike, Well you're
going to turn the microphone off for me, but no
that said, that's DIY around here.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Rookie the State Rookie to State by b right, Piney,
tell us what it was like flying well firstly, leaving Wellington.
Was there a few people on your plane going down
for the test match? What was the buzz, give us
the give us the travel experience.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I think everybody on the plane had one thing on
their mind and that's tomorrow night's test at four sized
bar Stadium. Year a lot of people getting off. I
think you get a feel for people who are going
to a Rugby test. And yeah, like I said, about
ninety percent of the people on my flot this morning
had that on their minds. I've landed on a beautiful
to need in morning. I can tell you it is
absolutely stunning down here. Not particularly warm, but clear sky
(01:28):
is beautiful. I think the weather's meant to perhaps not
packing necessarily but change a little bit for the worse
a little later on today. But tomorrow night under the
roof of Dunedin should be magnificent. Can't wait to get
to the ground well tonight to sort of soak up
the pregame atmosphere. And yeah, there's a real excitement I
know around about the first All Blacks test of a year,
(01:50):
new coach, new captain, and yeah, just a real sense
of excitement around about this team.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well there's a bit of excitement in our newsroom this
morning too, Coops. You know, we started talking about it.
We all went off topics and whatever we're working on,
and we have got to the All black's first All
Black game. I want to just ask you, because I've
become a fan very quickly of Scott Robinson. I don't
like even calling him raised, but I think he's just
I don't know, he's just hit the hit the field
(02:17):
running yep.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
And I think we've all despite not necessarily being Crusaders supporters.
You've got to admire what he's done with them down there,
and that the winning record he's had with not just
the Crusaders, but but prior to that, the underw Zealand
under twenties, the Cannabury NPC team. He has just everywhere
he's been created a winning culture and had some really
successful results. So he clearly knows how to bring a
(02:39):
group of players together. He clearly knows how to identify
opponent's weaknesses and make a team really to pour, really
to perform to their full potentials and get the best
out of every single player he coaches. So I think
it's just really exciting. He's clearly got passion for it.
He had a great hour on air with Piney last
weekend and you know, connected with the fans, understood that,
the passion that, and you know that the legacy that
(03:01):
his role will create for for many years to come
and his responsibility to deliver on behalf of all of
New Zealand and the all black fans are fast. So yeah,
really exciting, And I mean people are saying it's a
new era in here. There are some weaknesses, but there
are still about eight starters from the team from the
Rugby World Cup Final. You've got, you know, Ardie Savia
still their World Player of the Year, midfield, other areas
(03:23):
of the park that are very consistent with where things
sat for the All Blacks and previous years. So in
my view, you know, there's going to be a nice
fresh injection of excitement from him, but the bulk of
the All Blacks that that have been there are still there,
so I don't think we've got too much to worry about.
No debutantes in the whole twenty.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Three Piney, you've spent some time with Scott Robinson. What
are your impressions from You know, you're a pretty worldly chap.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I look, I liked him immediately, and I think that's
probably a fairly commonly held view. You know, I haven't
had anything to do with Razor obviously until I met
him last weekend. This, you know, at the odd special
opportunity we had to chat to him on the air
and he comes in and straight away of charismatic, friendly,
big warm hand shape, looks you in the eye when
(04:10):
he chanced here. So I think most most notably when
he was on the air, was just the honesty with
which he answered the questions, not just from me, but
you know, we open the lines up and let anybody
ring and who wanted to ask a question, and he
listened to the questions, he answered them directly. And look, look,
it's obvious that he's got something about him that otherwise
(04:32):
the Crusaders wouldn't have done what they've done for however
many years it's been. Yes, I've had some of the
best players going around as well, but yeah, he's overseen
a period of unprecedented success down there and has wanted
this job for a long time and has had to
wait a bit. I mean he got the job nearly
five hundred days ago, he had had to wait until
(04:52):
now to get his hands on the team, and now
we're one day out from his first Test match. So yeah,
from having watched them a little bit in the media
situations this week, I think, like everybody, he just wants
to get this team on the grass and get Game
one out of the way. And look, I think it'll
be an absolute belter at full sized bart tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Adam Cooper, what style of rugby are the to All
Blacks going to play under Scott Robinson?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Well, I think they're going to really have to win
the upfront battles for a start. But all you have
to do is look at how the Crusaders have played
under him over the past few years.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
That that just you think you'll play the same style.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I think so. I think you've got to You've got
to stick to a lot a lot of these players
are used to and have been good at. I do
think we'll see the back line, you know, use of
lies really really well early on. You know, England have
started to play a bit more expansive style of rugby,
far more than just the forward pack reliance and that
they've had under under Steve Borthwick. So I think we're
going to have to see the All Blacks match that
(05:49):
and be competitive right across the park. So but it's
just that the forward pack and the upfront battle that
is so crucial in these kind of games, isn't it.
And luckily that there is that consistency in the All
Blacks in terms of our front rowers who have been there,
tried and true for the past couple of years. An
unchanged front row from from the starters from the World
cut last.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Year, Piney, are we going to see Crusader style rugby,
or are we going to look at it? Is he
going to put a new whole system together?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Oh look, I think you go with what works for you,
don't you As a coach, you know that would The
reason he's been given the job is because he's been successful,
and it would be unnatural, I think, to rely on
things other than what have made you successful so far.
Of course, it's a different group of players. You're playing
against an international opposition. Obviously you know it goes up
(06:32):
a notch. But look, I totally agree with coopes. I
think you know, they'll they look to win the Ford battle,
they'll look to win the collision areas. They look to
you know free up there very very dangerous back line
and particularly the outside backs. But look, I don't think
this will be a departure from what we've seen be
so successful for Scott Robertson's Crusaders team. You know they'll
(06:58):
be shuttle changes. Absolutely there will be because let's not
forget he's got assistant coaches there, the likes of Jason
Holland and Leo McDonald who have been another franchise. But yeah,
again I think the overriding feeling I get about this
team is energy and excitement, both from within it and
from the outside looking into it. And I just think
(07:18):
there's a huge, huge anticipation about what the back end
of this year will look like for the All Blacks.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Any weaknesses in this All Black team, I mean, for me,
I keep going back in my back of my mind,
and I'm a huge TJ fan, Right, I'm thinking it's
half back first five. It's a raw combination, isn't it. Really.
It's not a combination that you'd say that's the best
half back in the world and it's the best first
five in the world.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Is it.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Well, it's very experienced, though, is it. I mean Damien
mackenzie has been in an All Blacks environments. Yes, he's
been absent the last couple of years, but he's been
in an All Black environment.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
For a lot of his career seven years.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
And TJ we know his experience and you know his
eighty old test caps. So I wouldn't call that a weakness.
But they're certainly together, probably have definitely played some rugby together.
But yeah, it's I can't see a problem with it.
Nick as what I guess I'm trying to say, All right,
good let's.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Move on to the Tour Blacks. The Olympic dreamers over
after Luca dont did his stuff. Piney, I don't know
whether you're a Luca docs it's a fan, but I
am because I've got a family member that thinks he's in.
But that was just unbelievable and one man's stand, wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Yeah, I saw the stat line. I didn't watch the
game or was it two thirty this morning? I wasn't
available to watch that. I was doing other things. But yeah,
I did see the score when I woke up and
had a look at a couple of highlights. And look,
it was always going to be tough for the Tour
Blacks to make the Olympics anyway, that to win this
sixteen tournament, you know, only one spot on the line
at the Olympics, and it just proved a couple of
(08:49):
bridges too far for them. I don't think there's any
disgrace to lose to a team where Luka Doncic is
scoring points and grabbing rebounds and dishing out assists. But yeah, unfortunately,
the long wait for the Tour Blacks to return to
the Olympic Games will go on.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, coops, yeah, I mean, but wasn't it great to
have that twenty four hours of slight hope after the
great one over over Croatia. And you know some guys
that are really contributing, Shay Eli and Ruben Tadangey and
obviously a Saints connection with Azali are for there as well.
And you know, just the experience of being alongside some
of these other world basketball names, the likes of the
Don Chic is as soon sedule and playing against them incredible,
(09:25):
isn't it? And what a story to be able to
tell that, you know, a multiple NBA MVP scored a
triple double against me, Like, you know, you don't want
to be on that side of a step, But that's
a pretty cool story, isn't it a great experience? And
I'm still surprised only twelve teams can go to the
Olympics because all these other sports, all these other sports,
the criteria for individual athletes getting selected as you've got
(09:47):
to be capable of a top sixteen finish. You don't
even have to be top sixteen, you've just got to
be capable. But then in team sports like basketball, only
twelve teams are allowed to go, which is really tough
and with funding decisions made on how people go at
the Olympics, how this basketball get to that point of
getting criteria for funding if they so sort of you know,
(10:07):
just cut out by the Christ's area to get in
there in the first place. So it's a little bit frustrating,
but nice that they've had this tournament this week to
play a bit together.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And really really quickly because I've got to go Piney
Pulse back at the top of the Netball A and
Z NIPPLEL Championship.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, I'm good to see and as we're talking about
a couple of times, you know, this is a team
that's had to battle against a number of injuries. Good
to see them. You get the win last weekend, and yeah,
long long may it continue. Unfortunately, Nick, I think most
focused this weekend is going to be on the All Blacks. Yes,
other stuff going on as well.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, let's let's let's celebrate party, have a great weekend
down there. I know that you're you'll be absolutely buzzing
because we're buzzing back in the studio. It's a big event.
It's a big event.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I'll send you some photos.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, I am connected to you on social media because
I am over sixteen, so I can see what you're
up to, because you'd'll be pretty good on that, all right,
easy boys, Appreciate you, appreciate Appreciate you. Coops, thank you obviously.
Adam Cooper's host of All Sports Breakfast, our highly rated,
the most highly rated show in our organization in Wellington.
So he's on Tomorrow morning from seven to nine and
(11:12):
in the afternoon another highly rated show with Jason Pine
doing the sport on Saturday and Sunday afternoon. What a
great weekend to be doing sport.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
What a job to have The Friday sport kickoff on
Wellington Mornings with Rs Lane Padel and Fight rs Lane
dot ins d. For more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills,
listen live to news Talks It'd Be Wellington from nine
to am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talk Sat B. The Friday Sport kickoff on
Wellington Morning with Rstling, Handle and Vain leave your fleet
management repairs to them.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Exciting time and sport this weekend, really exciting time. Joining
us for Friday Sports this weekend is Jason Pine from Dunedin.
Good morning Jason, Good morning Nick and All Sports Breakfast
host Adam Cooper in the studio with me Adam.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Good morning Boddy, Nick, you turn your bike, Well you're
going to turn the microphone off for me, but no
that said, that's DIY around here.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Rookie the State Rookie to State by b right, Piney,
tell us what it was like flying well firstly, leaving Wellington.
Was there a few people on your plane going down
for the test match? What was the buzz, give us
the give us the travel experience.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I think everybody on the plane had one thing on
their mind and that's tomorrow night's test at four sized
bar Stadium. Year a lot of people getting off. I
think you get a feel for people who are going
to a Rugby test. And yeah, like I said, about
ninety percent of the people on my flot this morning
had that on their minds. I've landed on a beautiful
to need in morning. I can tell you it is
absolutely stunning down here. Not particularly warm, but clear sky
(01:28):
is beautiful. I think the weather's meant to perhaps not
packing necessarily but change a little bit for the worse
a little later on today. But tomorrow night under the
roof of Dunedin should be magnificent. Can't wait to get
to the ground well tonight to sort of soak up
the pregame atmosphere. And yeah, there's a real excitement I
know around about the first All Blacks test of a year,
(01:50):
new coach, new captain, and yeah, just a real sense
of excitement around about this team.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well there's a bit of excitement in our newsroom this
morning too, Coops. You know, we started talking about it.
We all went off topics and whatever we're working on,
and we have got to the All black's first All
Black game. I want to just ask you, because I've
become a fan very quickly of Scott Robinson. I don't
like even calling him raised, but I think he's just
I don't know, he's just hit the hit the field
(02:17):
running yep.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
And I think we've all despite not necessarily being Crusaders supporters.
You've got to admire what he's done with them down there,
and that the winning record he's had with not just
the Crusaders, but but prior to that, the underw Zealand
under twenties, the Cannabury NPC team. He has just everywhere
he's been created a winning culture and had some really
successful results. So he clearly knows how to bring a
(02:39):
group of players together. He clearly knows how to identify
opponent's weaknesses and make a team really to pour, really
to perform to their full potentials and get the best
out of every single player he coaches. So I think
it's just really exciting. He's clearly got passion for it.
He had a great hour on air with Piney last
weekend and you know, connected with the fans, understood that,
the passion that, and you know that the legacy that
(03:01):
his role will create for for many years to come
and his responsibility to deliver on behalf of all of
New Zealand and the all black fans are fast. So yeah,
really exciting, And I mean people are saying it's a
new era in here. There are some weaknesses, but there
are still about eight starters from the team from the
Rugby World Cup Final. You've got, you know, Ardie Savia
still their World Player of the Year, midfield, other areas
(03:23):
of the park that are very consistent with where things
sat for the All Blacks and previous years. So in
my view, you know, there's going to be a nice
fresh injection of excitement from him, but the bulk of
the All Blacks that that have been there are still there,
so I don't think we've got too much to worry about.
No debutantes in the whole twenty.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Three Piney, you've spent some time with Scott Robinson. What
are your impressions from You know, you're a pretty worldly chap.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I look, I liked him immediately, and I think that's
probably a fairly commonly held view. You know, I haven't
had anything to do with Razor obviously until I met
him last weekend. This, you know, at the odd special
opportunity we had to chat to him on the air
and he comes in and straight away of charismatic, friendly,
big warm hand shape, looks you in the eye when
(04:10):
he chanced here. So I think most most notably when
he was on the air, was just the honesty with
which he answered the questions, not just from me, but
you know, we open the lines up and let anybody
ring and who wanted to ask a question, and he
listened to the questions, he answered them directly. And look, look,
it's obvious that he's got something about him that otherwise
(04:32):
the Crusaders wouldn't have done what they've done for however
many years it's been. Yes, I've had some of the
best players going around as well, but yeah, he's overseen
a period of unprecedented success down there and has wanted
this job for a long time and has had to
wait a bit. I mean he got the job nearly
five hundred days ago, he had had to wait until
(04:52):
now to get his hands on the team, and now
we're one day out from his first Test match. So yeah,
from having watched them a little bit in the media
situations this week, I think, like everybody, he just wants
to get this team on the grass and get Game
one out of the way. And look, I think it'll
be an absolute belter at full sized bart tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Adam Cooper, what style of rugby are the to All
Blacks going to play under Scott Robinson?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Well, I think they're going to really have to win
the upfront battles for a start. But all you have
to do is look at how the Crusaders have played
under him over the past few years.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
That that just you think you'll play the same style.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I think so. I think you've got to You've got
to stick to a lot a lot of these players
are used to and have been good at. I do
think we'll see the back line, you know, use of
lies really really well early on. You know, England have
started to play a bit more expansive style of rugby,
far more than just the forward pack reliance and that
they've had under under Steve Borthwick. So I think we're
going to have to see the All Blacks match that
(05:49):
and be competitive right across the park. So but it's
just that the forward pack and the upfront battle that
is so crucial in these kind of games, isn't it.
And luckily that there is that consistency in the All
Blacks in terms of our front rowers who have been there,
tried and true for the past couple of years. An
unchanged front row from from the starters from the World
cut last.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Year, Piney, are we going to see Crusader style rugby,
or are we going to look at it? Is he
going to put a new whole system together?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Oh look, I think you go with what works for you,
don't you As a coach, you know that would The
reason he's been given the job is because he's been successful,
and it would be unnatural, I think, to rely on
things other than what have made you successful so far.
Of course, it's a different group of players. You're playing
against an international opposition. Obviously you know it goes up
(06:32):
a notch. But look, I totally agree with coopes. I
think you know, they'll they look to win the Ford battle,
they'll look to win the collision areas. They look to
you know free up there very very dangerous back line
and particularly the outside backs. But look, I don't think
this will be a departure from what we've seen be
so successful for Scott Robertson's Crusaders team. You know they'll
(06:58):
be shuttle changes. Absolutely there will be because let's not
forget he's got assistant coaches there, the likes of Jason
Holland and Leo McDonald who have been another franchise. But yeah,
again I think the overriding feeling I get about this
team is energy and excitement, both from within it and
from the outside looking into it. And I just think
(07:18):
there's a huge, huge anticipation about what the back end
of this year will look like for the All Blacks.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Any weaknesses in this All Black team, I mean, for me,
I keep going back in my back of my mind,
and I'm a huge TJ fan, Right, I'm thinking it's
half back first five. It's a raw combination, isn't it. Really.
It's not a combination that you'd say that's the best
half back in the world and it's the best first
five in the world.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Is it.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Well, it's very experienced, though, is it. I mean Damien
mackenzie has been in an All Blacks environments. Yes, he's
been absent the last couple of years, but he's been
in an All Black environment.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
For a lot of his career seven years.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
And TJ we know his experience and you know his
eighty old test caps. So I wouldn't call that a weakness.
But they're certainly together, probably have definitely played some rugby together.
But yeah, it's I can't see a problem with it.
Nick as what I guess I'm trying to say, All right,
good let's.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Move on to the Tour Blacks. The Olympic dreamers over
after Luca dont did his stuff. Piney, I don't know
whether you're a Luca docs it's a fan, but I
am because I've got a family member that thinks he's in.
But that was just unbelievable and one man's stand, wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Yeah, I saw the stat line. I didn't watch the
game or was it two thirty this morning? I wasn't
available to watch that. I was doing other things. But yeah,
I did see the score when I woke up and
had a look at a couple of highlights. And look,
it was always going to be tough for the Tour
Blacks to make the Olympics anyway, that to win this
sixteen tournament, you know, only one spot on the line
at the Olympics, and it just proved a couple of
(08:49):
bridges too far for them. I don't think there's any
disgrace to lose to a team where Luka Doncic is
scoring points and grabbing rebounds and dishing out assists. But yeah, unfortunately,
the long wait for the Tour Blacks to return to
the Olympic Games will go on.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, coops, yeah, I mean, but wasn't it great to
have that twenty four hours of slight hope after the
great one over over Croatia. And you know some guys
that are really contributing, Shay Eli and Ruben Tadangey and
obviously a Saints connection with Azali are for there as well.
And you know, just the experience of being alongside some
of these other world basketball names, the likes of the
Don Chic is as soon sedule and playing against them incredible,
(09:25):
isn't it? And what a story to be able to
tell that, you know, a multiple NBA MVP scored a
triple double against me, Like, you know, you don't want
to be on that side of a step, But that's
a pretty cool story, isn't it a great experience? And
I'm still surprised only twelve teams can go to the
Olympics because all these other sports, all these other sports,
the criteria for individual athletes getting selected as you've got
(09:47):
to be capable of a top sixteen finish. You don't
even have to be top sixteen, you've just got to
be capable. But then in team sports like basketball, only
twelve teams are allowed to go, which is really tough
and with funding decisions made on how people go at
the Olympics, how this basketball get to that point of
getting criteria for funding if they so sort of you know,
(10:07):
just cut out by the Christ's area to get in
there in the first place. So it's a little bit frustrating,
but nice that they've had this tournament this week to
play a bit together.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And really really quickly because I've got to go Piney
Pulse back at the top of the Netball A and
Z NIPPLEL Championship.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, I'm good to see and as we're talking about
a couple of times, you know, this is a team
that's had to battle against a number of injuries. Good
to see them. You get the win last weekend, and yeah,
long long may it continue. Unfortunately, Nick, I think most
focused this weekend is going to be on the All Blacks. Yes,
other stuff going on as well.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, let's let's let's celebrate party, have a great weekend
down there. I know that you're you'll be absolutely buzzing
because we're buzzing back in the studio. It's a big event.
It's a big event.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I'll send you some photos.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, I am connected to you on social media because
I am over sixteen, so I can see what you're
up to, because you'd'll be pretty good on that, all right,
easy boys, Appreciate you, appreciate Appreciate you. Coops, thank you obviously.
Adam Cooper's host of All Sports Breakfast, our highly rated,
the most highly rated show in our organization in Wellington.
So he's on Tomorrow morning from seven to nine and
(11:12):
in the afternoon another highly rated show with Jason Pine
doing the sport on Saturday and Sunday afternoon. What a
great weekend to be doing sport.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
What a job to have The Friday sport kickoff on
Wellington Mornings with Rs Lane Padel and Fight rs Lane
dot ins d. For more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills,
listen live to news Talks It'd Be Wellington from nine
to am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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