Fresh from following Christopher Luxon around the United States, Newstalk ZB political editor Jason Walls says the trip went well for the Prime Minister.
Also, how have New Zealand's leaders reacted to the news of an assassination attempt against former US President Donald Trump, and has there been any success with Kainga Ora's crackdown on unruly tenants?
Jason joined Nick Mills for the Beehive Buzz.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talk said B direct from News Talks edb's
team at Tolerance the Bee Hive.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Buzz joining us for the Bee High buzzes News Talk
c B political editor Jason Wall's good.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Morning, Jason, morning neck.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
How are you doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Thanks? How's the jit leg?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Oh, you know, it's perfect, It's great. I had a
couple of naps yesterday and slept about a nine hours.
They have this wonderful thing called melatonin in the United States,
so Brang brought back a bottle of that and popped
a few pills and I was out like a light.
So I'm feeling great.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Can you text me to me because I'm a terrible sleeper,
as we've talked before, So text me. Can you text
me the details are there? I need something of that
I've been doing. I've been doing magnesium which is helping
about But anyway, Jason, you're just back from the States
with Christopher Lux and tell us about the Trump and
how it went.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I think it went relatively well for the Prime Minister,
and I think you just need to compare it to
how Japan went, and it's pretty much night and day,
I mean over in Japan. He didn't really do a
whole bunch rather than just kind of being there as
things were signed, and he did meet with the Japanese leader,
Fumiyo Kashita. However, there was a what was agreed was
(01:19):
basically something that started under the durned government, and it
was all sort of sidelined by things such as the
c lister to comment and yet again the plane breaking down.
But it was a very different story this time around.
I mean, for one, he went via in New Zealand,
so there was no issues there apart from the fact
there was there was a hurricane in Houston, so he
had to take another plane to get to the US.
(01:40):
So even when he isn't flying with the Prime Minister's plane,
the poor ex CEO of a New Zealand still has
a bit of a rough time when it comes to
being up in the skies. But the main focus of
the trip wasn't really to stick his head out and
be anything more than just another player and another cog
in the NATAL machine, which is fairly ironic given that
(02:00):
New Zealand isn't a NATAL member. The clue is in
the title We're not in the North Atlantic, but we
are in what's called the indoor Pacific four, which is
New Zealand, Australia, Japan, and South Korea. And Luxon actually
chaired that forum, which he welcomed Vladimir Zelenski to as well,
and I think that he did quite a good job. However,
I mean, so much of the rhetoric and so much
(02:23):
of the focus on the trip was around Joe Biden.
I mean, there's disastrous, that disastrous debate performance. He's had
some doozies of press conferences, and then of course when
he called Vladimir Zelenski putin, that really raised quite a
few eyebrows as well. But Chris Luxen wasn't being drawn
on that the whole time. He consistently said that he
would work with whoever the American people decided which was
(02:45):
the right call. I mean, he can't go around saying
things like, oh, I would prefer it to be Biden
or I'd prefer it to be Trump, because he had
become one of the first world leaders to do so.
But I think that it went all in all pretty well.
He did what he meant came there to do. He
robbed shoulders with Republicans and Democrats and really loved to
help put New Zealand back on the map for many
of them. I mean, he's never going to have the
(03:07):
reception that Jacinda r Dern got. She was somewhat of
a superstar at these events from my perspective when I
went along. But he, you know, he wants to distance
himself from the labor tenure in office, and I think
he's got off to quite a good start.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Okay, you're at the beehive. What's New Zealand's reaction being
to the attempt and assassination of Donald Trump?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Well, I mean, obviously it was quite a shocking story.
I mean I was, to be honest, I was taking
a nap and I can't I woke up in my
phone started blowing up with all sorts of messages and
news notifications about it. I mean, it comes you know,
these sort of the usual comments from New Zealand leaders.
Winston Peters, for example, he was traveling in career at
the times. At New Zealand and the United States, two
(03:49):
of the longest running democracies in the world, we share
a proud tradition of political differences being settled in the
ballot box, but not by violence, were shocked by the
violence directed at former President Donald Trump at the rally
today and saying that his thoughts were with the American
people at this time. And of course it's David Seymour
who was the acting Prime Minister at the time, and
(04:10):
he said it in a statement that his thoughts were
wh Trump and the American people and condemned political violence
in all its form. So New Zealand's reaction hasn't been
far from what other world world leaders have been saying,
including the likes of Chris Hopkins as well. So it's
what's to be become expected in terms of the reaction here.
But my goodness, what a story. And I think anybody
(04:32):
looking at this and would just say that Trump's chances
of winning the presidency have just taken yet another vault
over what would have been thought as an unthinkable return
to the Oval office before. I think that this is
probably going to help his chances.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You were there, what was your gut feeling of pre
the assassination of the team, What was you what do
you what did you take out of it?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Well, I mean we're only a couple of months out
from the election and the question is about the suitability
of a candidate who has been the president for four years.
And I mean Donald Trump was uncharacteristically quiet when I
was over there, and you'd have to think that he's
basically just letting the Democrats tear themselves apart. I mean,
the thing that really got me is that George Cooney,
you know, he played Batman. He came out in a
(05:15):
letter and basically said that the president should stand aside.
And you can't really come up against something like that
and come out on scathed. And a lot of the
polling shows that Joe Biden, it just hasn't got the
support that he once had. I remember being in the
White and the Oval Office with both Joe Biden and
j Justina are doing a couple of years ago, and
even then I thought, man, he looks a bit old
(05:36):
and frail. And now it's just something else entirely.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Jace a story about a kinder or today the government
is finally cracking down on a viction of something like
fifteen in the last three months, when there was only
I think four in the last eighteen months or something
ridiculous like that, eight in the last eighteen months.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, I mean, it's the government actually this isn't something
that came from an OA request or some intrepid reporter
and asking questions. This is actually the government sending out
a press release. So that's what they do when they
want to tap them, they want to pay themselves on
the back, and clearly that's what they've done here in
the press release. Chris Bishop said three months in it's
encouraging to see some green sheets of change beginning to emerge.
(06:16):
For example, in the past three months, fourteen Kyer or
A tendancies have been terminated due to disruptive behavior or
persistent renter rears. And you would have remembered that the
National Party was really really harsh on Kying or A
tenants who were terrorizing their neighbors, saying on under their watch,
they just simply wouldn't be there. And they've actually come
out and they've done what they said that they were
(06:36):
going to do. Fourteen might not sound like a lot,
but in the scale of what happened under the last government,
it is quite a lot. And they were always very
very clear that it was going to be sort of
a deterrence because in the last administration you've got the
sense that some of the most unruly Kyinger or attendants
felt like they could get away with anything, and they
did for quite a while, and this government said we're
(06:58):
going to actually start kicking people out as a deterrence.
So the question now is will this work? Because as
much as you might want to see the people gone
from this neighborhood where they're terrorizing innocent people, there is
a legitimate question as to where do they go after this,
and the government does not want to see these people
just moved on to another place or on the streets.
(07:18):
So seeing how this plays out is going to be pivotal.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Jason, always a pleasure. Thank you very much. I know
that it's your day off and you've helping us out
by coming on and during the show, So have a
good rest, get ready for what's to come over the
next few weeks. Appreciate you as.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Always, anything for you, Miss Mills.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
You're right, it's a two year Jody asked for b eyebuds.
Was always really good to talk to Jason Wallse who's
the political editor.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
For more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills, listen live
to news Talks It'd be Wellington from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talk said B direct from News Talks edb's
team at Tolerance the Bee Hive.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Buzz joining us for the Bee High buzzes News Talk
c B political editor Jason Wall's good.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Morning, Jason, morning neck.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
How are you doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Thanks? How's the jit leg?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Oh, you know, it's perfect, It's great. I had a
couple of naps yesterday and slept about a nine hours.
They have this wonderful thing called melatonin in the United States,
so Brang brought back a bottle of that and popped
a few pills and I was out like a light.
So I'm feeling great.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Can you text me to me because I'm a terrible sleeper,
as we've talked before, So text me. Can you text
me the details are there? I need something of that
I've been doing. I've been doing magnesium which is helping
about But anyway, Jason, you're just back from the States
with Christopher Lux and tell us about the Trump and
how it went.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I think it went relatively well for the Prime Minister,
and I think you just need to compare it to
how Japan went, and it's pretty much night and day,
I mean over in Japan. He didn't really do a
whole bunch rather than just kind of being there as
things were signed, and he did meet with the Japanese leader,
Fumiyo Kashita. However, there was a what was agreed was
(01:19):
basically something that started under the durned government, and it
was all sort of sidelined by things such as the
c lister to comment and yet again the plane breaking down.
But it was a very different story this time around.
I mean, for one, he went via in New Zealand,
so there was no issues there apart from the fact
there was there was a hurricane in Houston, so he
had to take another plane to get to the US.
(01:40):
So even when he isn't flying with the Prime Minister's plane,
the poor ex CEO of a New Zealand still has
a bit of a rough time when it comes to
being up in the skies. But the main focus of
the trip wasn't really to stick his head out and
be anything more than just another player and another cog
in the NATAL machine, which is fairly ironic given that
(02:00):
New Zealand isn't a NATAL member. The clue is in
the title We're not in the North Atlantic, but we
are in what's called the indoor Pacific four, which is
New Zealand, Australia, Japan, and South Korea. And Luxon actually
chaired that forum, which he welcomed Vladimir Zelenski to as well,
and I think that he did quite a good job. However,
I mean, so much of the rhetoric and so much
(02:23):
of the focus on the trip was around Joe Biden.
I mean, there's disastrous, that disastrous debate performance. He's had
some doozies of press conferences, and then of course when
he called Vladimir Zelenski putin, that really raised quite a
few eyebrows as well. But Chris Luxen wasn't being drawn
on that the whole time. He consistently said that he
would work with whoever the American people decided which was
(02:45):
the right call. I mean, he can't go around saying
things like, oh, I would prefer it to be Biden
or I'd prefer it to be Trump, because he had
become one of the first world leaders to do so.
But I think that it went all in all pretty well.
He did what he meant came there to do. He
robbed shoulders with Republicans and Democrats and really loved to
help put New Zealand back on the map for many
of them. I mean, he's never going to have the
(03:07):
reception that Jacinda r Dern got. She was somewhat of
a superstar at these events from my perspective when I
went along. But he, you know, he wants to distance
himself from the labor tenure in office, and I think
he's got off to quite a good start.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Okay, you're at the beehive. What's New Zealand's reaction being
to the attempt and assassination of Donald Trump?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Well, I mean, obviously it was quite a shocking story.
I mean I was, to be honest, I was taking
a nap and I can't I woke up in my
phone started blowing up with all sorts of messages and
news notifications about it. I mean, it comes you know,
these sort of the usual comments from New Zealand leaders.
Winston Peters, for example, he was traveling in career at
the times. At New Zealand and the United States, two
(03:49):
of the longest running democracies in the world, we share
a proud tradition of political differences being settled in the
ballot box, but not by violence, were shocked by the
violence directed at former President Donald Trump at the rally
today and saying that his thoughts were with the American
people at this time. And of course it's David Seymour
who was the acting Prime Minister at the time, and
(04:10):
he said it in a statement that his thoughts were
wh Trump and the American people and condemned political violence
in all its form. So New Zealand's reaction hasn't been
far from what other world world leaders have been saying,
including the likes of Chris Hopkins as well. So it's
what's to be become expected in terms of the reaction here.
But my goodness, what a story. And I think anybody
(04:32):
looking at this and would just say that Trump's chances
of winning the presidency have just taken yet another vault
over what would have been thought as an unthinkable return
to the Oval office before. I think that this is
probably going to help his chances.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You were there, what was your gut feeling of pre
the assassination of the team, What was you what do
you what did you take out of it?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Well, I mean we're only a couple of months out
from the election and the question is about the suitability
of a candidate who has been the president for four years.
And I mean Donald Trump was uncharacteristically quiet when I
was over there, and you'd have to think that he's
basically just letting the Democrats tear themselves apart. I mean,
the thing that really got me is that George Cooney,
you know, he played Batman. He came out in a
(05:15):
letter and basically said that the president should stand aside.
And you can't really come up against something like that
and come out on scathed. And a lot of the
polling shows that Joe Biden, it just hasn't got the
support that he once had. I remember being in the
White and the Oval Office with both Joe Biden and
j Justina are doing a couple of years ago, and
even then I thought, man, he looks a bit old
(05:36):
and frail. And now it's just something else entirely.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Jace a story about a kinder or today the government
is finally cracking down on a viction of something like
fifteen in the last three months, when there was only
I think four in the last eighteen months or something
ridiculous like that, eight in the last eighteen months.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, I mean, it's the government actually this isn't something
that came from an OA request or some intrepid reporter
and asking questions. This is actually the government sending out
a press release. So that's what they do when they
want to tap them, they want to pay themselves on
the back, and clearly that's what they've done here in
the press release. Chris Bishop said three months in it's
encouraging to see some green sheets of change beginning to emerge.
(06:16):
For example, in the past three months, fourteen Kyer or
A tendancies have been terminated due to disruptive behavior or
persistent renter rears. And you would have remembered that the
National Party was really really harsh on Kying or A
tenants who were terrorizing their neighbors, saying on under their watch,
they just simply wouldn't be there. And they've actually come
out and they've done what they said that they were
(06:36):
going to do. Fourteen might not sound like a lot,
but in the scale of what happened under the last government,
it is quite a lot. And they were always very
very clear that it was going to be sort of
a deterrence because in the last administration you've got the
sense that some of the most unruly Kyinger or attendants
felt like they could get away with anything, and they
did for quite a while, and this government said we're
(06:58):
going to actually start kicking people out as a deterrence.
So the question now is will this work? Because as
much as you might want to see the people gone
from this neighborhood where they're terrorizing innocent people, there is
a legitimate question as to where do they go after this,
and the government does not want to see these people
just moved on to another place or on the streets.
(07:18):
So seeing how this plays out is going to be pivotal.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Jason, always a pleasure. Thank you very much. I know
that it's your day off and you've helping us out
by coming on and during the show, So have a
good rest, get ready for what's to come over the
next few weeks. Appreciate you as.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Always, anything for you, Miss Mills.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
You're right, it's a two year Jody asked for b eyebuds.
Was always really good to talk to Jason Wallse who's
the political editor.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
For more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills, listen live
to news Talks It'd be Wellington from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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