August 18, 2024 • 9 mins
The Prime Minister has returned from a quick trip to Australia - how did it go for him, and what big event is he attending this week?
And former Prime Minister Dame Jacinda Ardern is set to speak at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago this week - what can we expect?
Newstalk ZB political editor Jason Walls joined Nick Mills for the Beehive Buzz.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talks ed B Direct from News Talks edb's
team at Tolerance the bee Hive buzz Hip.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Joining us for the Behi Buzzes news Talk set B
Political editor Jason Walls from Live from the Beehive Morning. Jason,
Morning Neck.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm great? Thanks? Good weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh, very good weekend, Very good weekend. I wish I
could tell you I got out on the golf course
and scored over one hundred or something ridiculous like that,
but it was too wet so to stayed inside.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Well, you're Australia till probably Saturday morning or Friday, late
Friday night, so you didn't give much of a weekend.
You're with the MP and he's back Prime Minister and
he's back from Australia. How did it all go?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, you know, I think it went pretty much as expected.
The first day he was in Sydney, which was the
business slash infrastructure side of things, so essentially he was
talking to a bunch of infrastructure buffins, top dogs at
the Treasury of New South Wales and also just people
at Becker as well. He talked to their leadership and
basically was getting a bit of the lay of the
(01:12):
land of how they do infrastructure in New South Wales.
Sydney is someway that does infrastructure well, according to the
Prime Minister. So he went over with old mate Simeon
Brown and Shane Jones and Chris Bishop the infrastructure trio,
so they could get a bit of a as I say,
a lay of the land and see how they did it,
including the obligatory chucking on the high vez vest and
(01:35):
a hard hat and going to have a look at
a tunnel. So they got all of that out of
the way before giving the speech to the Lowy Institute.
Now this is quite a significant speech for the Prime
Minister because it was his first foreign affairs speech that
he's done in the job, and he used it to
make a bit of a pointed jab or what I
thought was a bit of a pointed jab at China,
saying that there were some areas where we cannot and
(01:55):
will not agree. He briefly touched on the likes of
orcust pillar two, but nothing that we hadn't heard of before.
But it was the overall arching sentiment of this speech
was very much of a, we are in a pretty
critical stage right now the South Pacific area, particularly in
terms of a flashpoint. The next day was the political Day,
(02:16):
where he spent the day with old mate Albo and
I should have more respects. Sorry, the right honorable Anthony
Albersi he spoke with and the pair did a joint
press conference where basically they touched on New Zealand's great
relationship yahdi yah, but the main sticking point was around
those five oh one deportees. Luxon went into that meeting
saying that he was going to strongly advocate for the
overturning of that policy, which sees that a number of
(02:39):
people that were technically born in New Zealand but have
no connection to New Zealand being sent back here after
they've finished their criminal sentence in Australia. So he went
in saying we want to get rid of this, we
don't like this anymore. But Anthony Albanesi said, my main
goal is to keep Australian safe, so it stays in place.
So at the end of the day, we all knew
it was going to happen, but that's how it played out.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So nothing on the five oho ones.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Nothing on the five zero ones. They said they're going
to continue a common sense approach. But there's absolutely no
way that Anthony Albanizi is going to buckle to little
old New Zealand when he has the mate of the
Australian public telling him very fourth rightly, do not change
this policy. You've changed it before and we didn't like it.
Don't do that again.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Can I tell you, just for your own interest sake, Jas,
because you moved with the shakers and stuff. I've met
two five oh ones in New Zealand. Both have been
outstanding people. Now you've eaten in one of my restaurants
that's got a lot of colorful things on the wall,
paintings on the wall. Those all those paintings on the
wall were done by a five oh one and another
(03:40):
five oh one I had worked for me was an
absolutely impeccable in person and I would employ them any
day of the week. So I'm a bit different on
the five oh ones. Yes, I know that there's some
really bad people coming back, but my experienced personal experience
with two of them very clever and very good people.
So there you go. That's another story. Now there's a
big event on with the Mary King today what sort
(04:03):
of receptionist lux and going to get them this. I
mean he's kind of openly yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Indeed, so he's going up to Kodu in a hunger today.
That's of course where Kini dou Hapia is and there
is a lot of conversation around there. Obviously we've got
the likes of Tipati Marti that have gone up as
well as Labor and the AC party is not actually
going as I understand it. There's a bit of to
and fro over were they invited or were they just
(04:28):
planning on not going. But you know, it's it's a
significant event on the Marty calendar and it comes at
a time when this government, particularly Chris Luxon, is facing
an enormous amount of pressure from Martydom in terms of
a number of his policies. I mean, you think of
things like seven double A, you think of what happened
on Friday with the White Tongey Tribunal talking about this
impending bill that David Seymour is putting before Parliament. I
(04:51):
will note that the White Tonguey Tribunal and Chris Luxon
said this, and I do agree that they came out
a little bit too premature with their judgment of it
because it's not technically a bill yet. They're just talking
about it and it hasn't been tabled. However, the white
Tongey Tribunal will argue and they have that their job
is to basically examine these things before they get to Parliament,
(05:11):
and so this is their way of putting it back
onto the public discourse, which I'll say, I think it
probably was on the public discourse before. But I don't
think he's going to get a particularly warm greeting. I mean,
I don't think he's going to be chased away that's
Chris Lutson or anything, but I don't think it's going
to be as warm, particularly when the likes of Jacinda
r Dern were there, and I think that his relationship
with Martyrdom has suffered a bit of late because of
(05:35):
the perception of how these policies are going to impact Mary.
But we do have the likes of Palma Paul Parker
who's going to be there and he's a fluent in
today and he will be giving an address as well,
so we'll have to watch how this one plays out.
And the Prime Minister will be speaking to us later today,
so keep an ear out are you going up? I'm
not going up. No, We've got reporters in the region
that are doing the mahi for us.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Wow. I just think if you need a help, I'll
come as your security guy, because I reckon it's going
to be a bit tough up there. I don't think
it's going to be as easy going as you do.
But anyway, let's move on. Dame do suender r dun.
Of course it's a name from the past, isn't it.
But where do I know that name from. I've heard
that name before somewhere that felt like when I was
(06:16):
in jail. But anyway, is making a real public appearance
at a rather public place. What are the details around us?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Indeed, and you're right to think, hang on a second,
that name rings a bell because she basically went to
ground when she finished with politics. She did her valedictory
speech in Parliament and then she was never really to
be heard from again. And she does pop up every
now and then with various different initiatives. But I would
say this is the most public thing that she's done
so far or plans to do, and that is she's
going to Chicago to join the Democrats from across the
(06:47):
US for their pre election convention. That's where Kamala Harris
is expected to be formally nominated as the Democratic nominee
for the presidential race. Now she's going to be there
alongside the likes of President Barack Obama. Of course, he
was the Illinois Senator before he was the presidential candidate,
(07:08):
then of course the president. So there's going to be
a lot of hype around it. So as well as
attending the main convention of Dern is also participating in
a side of that hosted by the Center for American
Progress Action Fund, which is a Democratic aligned think tech
and advocacy organization. So she's going to make headlines. I
think she's going to get a warm reception. She was
(07:28):
very well received by left leaning individuals in the US
and around the world. I mean, I remember personally when
I went over to the United States a couple of
times with Jacinda Ardurn, it was like meeting a celebrity.
People meeting a celebrity on the streets. I mean, she
was on the Today Show. Stephen Colbert has this some
funny little relationship with her, and she's very famous. So
(07:49):
I think she still does hold a lot of that
sway I think it's not as much as she did
when when she was Prime Minister, but it's still enough.
So interesting that she's flown the coop like this.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I think you're down playing the Americans intelligence. I don't
know whether. I mean, I agree that she's got star
quality over there, no question about that. I agree with
everything you're saying, But I think they're smarter than that.
They might they'll realize what damage she did to New Zealand,
like most other leaders had done during that period of time, wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
They Well, I mean, if she was going to a
Republican national conference, I don't think she would get a
very good reception there. But the Democrats, I think will
probably see past what you consider to be the damage
that she's done and look at things like March fifteenth,
and look at the initial COVID response, and I think
they'll have their blinkers on when it comes to looking
at that side of things.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
What else is? What else is happening in the behive
this week? Are you beckon session? You've seen the have
more holidays than love and anyone in the world.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Well, hang on a second, I don't go on holiday less.
So the ministers are away. I'm recessed. Do we still
are doing the work done here? But no, it's a
sitting week. You're right, it's the first one back at
looking at my calendar here, we're in August. We've got
two more weeks and then they've got another week break
in September. But yep, there's going to be the usual things.
There's no post cabinet press conference today because obviously the
(09:08):
Prime Minister is up north at k Hunger. But then
we've got the usual sort of hustle and bustle of
the House this week, and then some various other foreign
dignitaries who may or may not be coming to the
country and we can provide more detail on that as
it comes. But yes, another exciting week down here in
the halls of power.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well it's great to Jason appreciate all the work that
you do, and I know it's a tough gig. You're
in Australia for two days in back home and way again. Gosh,
be high buzz news talks there be Political editor Jason
wall Is always good to talk.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Jason, take care for more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills.
Listen live to news talks. It'd be Wellington from nine
am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talks ed B Direct from News Talks edb's
team at Tolerance the bee Hive buzz Hip.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Joining us for the Behi Buzzes news Talk set B
Political editor Jason Walls from Live from the Beehive Morning. Jason,
Morning Neck.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm great? Thanks? Good weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh, very good weekend, Very good weekend. I wish I
could tell you I got out on the golf course
and scored over one hundred or something ridiculous like that,
but it was too wet so to stayed inside.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Well, you're Australia till probably Saturday morning or Friday, late
Friday night, so you didn't give much of a weekend.
You're with the MP and he's back Prime Minister and
he's back from Australia. How did it all go?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, you know, I think it went pretty much as expected.
The first day he was in Sydney, which was the
business slash infrastructure side of things, so essentially he was
talking to a bunch of infrastructure buffins, top dogs at
the Treasury of New South Wales and also just people
at Becker as well. He talked to their leadership and
basically was getting a bit of the lay of the
(01:12):
land of how they do infrastructure in New South Wales.
Sydney is someway that does infrastructure well, according to the
Prime Minister. So he went over with old mate Simeon
Brown and Shane Jones and Chris Bishop the infrastructure trio,
so they could get a bit of a as I say,
a lay of the land and see how they did it,
including the obligatory chucking on the high vez vest and
(01:35):
a hard hat and going to have a look at
a tunnel. So they got all of that out of
the way before giving the speech to the Lowy Institute.
Now this is quite a significant speech for the Prime
Minister because it was his first foreign affairs speech that
he's done in the job, and he used it to
make a bit of a pointed jab or what I
thought was a bit of a pointed jab at China,
saying that there were some areas where we cannot and
(01:55):
will not agree. He briefly touched on the likes of
orcust pillar two, but nothing that we hadn't heard of before.
But it was the overall arching sentiment of this speech
was very much of a, we are in a pretty
critical stage right now the South Pacific area, particularly in
terms of a flashpoint. The next day was the political Day,
(02:16):
where he spent the day with old mate Albo and
I should have more respects. Sorry, the right honorable Anthony
Albersi he spoke with and the pair did a joint
press conference where basically they touched on New Zealand's great
relationship yahdi yah, but the main sticking point was around
those five oh one deportees. Luxon went into that meeting
saying that he was going to strongly advocate for the
overturning of that policy, which sees that a number of
(02:39):
people that were technically born in New Zealand but have
no connection to New Zealand being sent back here after
they've finished their criminal sentence in Australia. So he went
in saying we want to get rid of this, we
don't like this anymore. But Anthony Albanesi said, my main
goal is to keep Australian safe, so it stays in place.
So at the end of the day, we all knew
it was going to happen, but that's how it played out.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So nothing on the five oho ones.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Nothing on the five zero ones. They said they're going
to continue a common sense approach. But there's absolutely no
way that Anthony Albanizi is going to buckle to little
old New Zealand when he has the mate of the
Australian public telling him very fourth rightly, do not change
this policy. You've changed it before and we didn't like it.
Don't do that again.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Can I tell you, just for your own interest sake, Jas,
because you moved with the shakers and stuff. I've met
two five oh ones in New Zealand. Both have been
outstanding people. Now you've eaten in one of my restaurants
that's got a lot of colorful things on the wall,
paintings on the wall. Those all those paintings on the
wall were done by a five oh one and another
(03:40):
five oh one I had worked for me was an
absolutely impeccable in person and I would employ them any
day of the week. So I'm a bit different on
the five oh ones. Yes, I know that there's some
really bad people coming back, but my experienced personal experience
with two of them very clever and very good people.
So there you go. That's another story. Now there's a
big event on with the Mary King today what sort
(04:03):
of receptionist lux and going to get them this. I
mean he's kind of openly yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Indeed, so he's going up to Kodu in a hunger today.
That's of course where Kini dou Hapia is and there
is a lot of conversation around there. Obviously we've got
the likes of Tipati Marti that have gone up as
well as Labor and the AC party is not actually
going as I understand it. There's a bit of to
and fro over were they invited or were they just
(04:28):
planning on not going. But you know, it's it's a
significant event on the Marty calendar and it comes at
a time when this government, particularly Chris Luxon, is facing
an enormous amount of pressure from Martydom in terms of
a number of his policies. I mean, you think of
things like seven double A, you think of what happened
on Friday with the White Tongey Tribunal talking about this
impending bill that David Seymour is putting before Parliament. I
(04:51):
will note that the White Tonguey Tribunal and Chris Luxon
said this, and I do agree that they came out
a little bit too premature with their judgment of it
because it's not technically a bill yet. They're just talking
about it and it hasn't been tabled. However, the white
Tongey Tribunal will argue and they have that their job
is to basically examine these things before they get to Parliament,
(05:11):
and so this is their way of putting it back
onto the public discourse, which I'll say, I think it
probably was on the public discourse before. But I don't
think he's going to get a particularly warm greeting. I mean,
I don't think he's going to be chased away that's
Chris Lutson or anything, but I don't think it's going
to be as warm, particularly when the likes of Jacinda
r Dern were there, and I think that his relationship
with Martyrdom has suffered a bit of late because of
(05:35):
the perception of how these policies are going to impact Mary.
But we do have the likes of Palma Paul Parker
who's going to be there and he's a fluent in
today and he will be giving an address as well,
so we'll have to watch how this one plays out.
And the Prime Minister will be speaking to us later today,
so keep an ear out are you going up? I'm
not going up. No, We've got reporters in the region
that are doing the mahi for us.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Wow. I just think if you need a help, I'll
come as your security guy, because I reckon it's going
to be a bit tough up there. I don't think
it's going to be as easy going as you do.
But anyway, let's move on. Dame do suender r dun.
Of course it's a name from the past, isn't it.
But where do I know that name from. I've heard
that name before somewhere that felt like when I was
(06:16):
in jail. But anyway, is making a real public appearance
at a rather public place. What are the details around us?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Indeed, and you're right to think, hang on a second,
that name rings a bell because she basically went to
ground when she finished with politics. She did her valedictory
speech in Parliament and then she was never really to
be heard from again. And she does pop up every
now and then with various different initiatives. But I would
say this is the most public thing that she's done
so far or plans to do, and that is she's
going to Chicago to join the Democrats from across the
(06:47):
US for their pre election convention. That's where Kamala Harris
is expected to be formally nominated as the Democratic nominee
for the presidential race. Now she's going to be there
alongside the likes of President Barack Obama. Of course, he
was the Illinois Senator before he was the presidential candidate,
(07:08):
then of course the president. So there's going to be
a lot of hype around it. So as well as
attending the main convention of Dern is also participating in
a side of that hosted by the Center for American
Progress Action Fund, which is a Democratic aligned think tech
and advocacy organization. So she's going to make headlines. I
think she's going to get a warm reception. She was
(07:28):
very well received by left leaning individuals in the US
and around the world. I mean, I remember personally when
I went over to the United States a couple of
times with Jacinda Ardurn, it was like meeting a celebrity.
People meeting a celebrity on the streets. I mean, she
was on the Today Show. Stephen Colbert has this some
funny little relationship with her, and she's very famous. So
(07:49):
I think she still does hold a lot of that
sway I think it's not as much as she did
when when she was Prime Minister, but it's still enough.
So interesting that she's flown the coop like this.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I think you're down playing the Americans intelligence. I don't
know whether. I mean, I agree that she's got star
quality over there, no question about that. I agree with
everything you're saying, But I think they're smarter than that.
They might they'll realize what damage she did to New Zealand,
like most other leaders had done during that period of time, wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
They Well, I mean, if she was going to a
Republican national conference, I don't think she would get a
very good reception there. But the Democrats, I think will
probably see past what you consider to be the damage
that she's done and look at things like March fifteenth,
and look at the initial COVID response, and I think
they'll have their blinkers on when it comes to looking
at that side of things.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
What else is? What else is happening in the behive
this week? Are you beckon session? You've seen the have
more holidays than love and anyone in the world.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Well, hang on a second, I don't go on holiday less.
So the ministers are away. I'm recessed. Do we still
are doing the work done here? But no, it's a
sitting week. You're right, it's the first one back at
looking at my calendar here, we're in August. We've got
two more weeks and then they've got another week break
in September. But yep, there's going to be the usual things.
There's no post cabinet press conference today because obviously the
(09:08):
Prime Minister is up north at k Hunger. But then
we've got the usual sort of hustle and bustle of
the House this week, and then some various other foreign
dignitaries who may or may not be coming to the
country and we can provide more detail on that as
it comes. But yes, another exciting week down here in
the halls of power.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well it's great to Jason appreciate all the work that
you do, and I know it's a tough gig. You're
in Australia for two days in back home and way again. Gosh,
be high buzz news talks there be Political editor Jason
wall Is always good to talk.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Jason, take care for more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills.
Listen live to news talks. It'd be Wellington from nine
am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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