November 24, 2024 • 7 mins
This week marks a year since the coalition government of National, Act and New Zealand First was sworn in - and it's been an incredibly busy twelve months.
How has the government performed, and are all three parties happy with how the year has played out?
Also, a Police officer has been found to have left a copy of Prime Minister Christopher Luxon's tightly-held schedule on the dashboard of a police car - what happened here?
Newstalk ZB political editor Jason Walls joined Nick Mills for the Beehive Buzz.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talks EDB Direct from News Talks, edb's team
at Tolerance the Bee High buzz Uz.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Joining us for the be High Buzzers news Talks. Here
be political editor Jason Wolves.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Good morning, Jason, Oh, good morning.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Next, how are you doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Thank you very much? Okay, is this today? Actually it's
been a year since the government's been in office. What's
Luxan got to say about the first year?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Yeah, well, he's done a bit of immediate bless he's
appearing on the front page of the Post today talk
to the Herald and to urn Z as well, just
about sort of the first year and it's been one
heck of a first year. And those aren't his words,
those of mine, but I'm sure that he would echo
such similar sentiments. And I think that the fact that
it's kind of culminated this week in the Treaty principles debate,
(00:58):
shall we say, is really interesting because you'll remember at
the time it took quite a long time for the
coalition to form, and then Luckson eventually revealed that the treaty,
the Treaty Principal's Bill was one of the sticking points now,
he will argue then, and it's the big poll quote
at the top of the Post today. I have no
regrets in the way that that was formed. I mean,
at the end of the day, he is dealing with
(01:20):
the fallout of the treatise Principal's Bill, but he is
still the Prime Minister, so he'll probably with his business
hat on look at that and still chalk it up
to a win in terms of the fact that his
national government is still and was the government when this
was all put together in the Coalition agreement. But it's
a funny story. I mean I was reading it this
morning on the Post front page and it sort of
(01:42):
seemed like a bit of a checklist of a Chris
Blaxton bingo card. I mean, you have the first line
as a sports analogy, I can be captain in Firs five,
but I can't be prop and winger and fullback. In
terms of his position around the cabinet table. You've got
his references to Pepsi Max. You've got the fact that
he rises at four thirty am every morning. He talks
(02:02):
a bit about this quite often. The fact that you
know he used to be and you dalan Ceo. When
you're talking about Luxe and Bingo, you always have to
mention the fact that he talks about the last government
in terms of their bumper thickest slogans. You can come
down to the part where he says, I guess I
approach it slightly differently. I'm probably the person in New
Zealand's history that has got to be Prime minister in
(02:24):
the fastest amount of time, So ticking off the I'm
not a career politician and Bingo list as well. So
it's a very Christopher Luxon interview that one, and from
what I've seen in the other publications it's the same
sort of deal. So one year on and he's probably
what a lot of governments would consider to be their
honeymoon period. However, his personal polling shows that he's not
(02:45):
quite at the level, well nowhere near at the level
of Cinder r Dern and John Key when they're in
similar positions. So has he got more work to do? Yes,
of course he's a prime minister. They always have more
work to do. But has the coalition fallen apart? The
answer to that is no. I mean I said at
the time it was a very strong agreement. I know
he did a very good job at forging something like
this future proofs well. I guess we'll have to see
(03:07):
over the next two years. But for the first year
everything seems fine.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Jase. If you had to give him a score out
of ten, what would it be, I know you do.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
They're so binary, I would just listen. If I had
to say overall, I'd say, but a seven point eight
out of ten. I mean, there are still problems in
terms of the Coalition government, some issues that they're facing,
but all in all, you know, they haven't, as I say,
they haven't fallen apart. He's actually given David Seymour and
Winston Peter's quite a long leash to be able to
be their individual selves and represent their parties as well
(03:39):
as being ministers of the Crown. And I think that
is a very strong attribute in a leader in terms
of looking to future prove his government. So I'd say
pretty good, but there is some room for improvement.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I'm the same as you, but I think it went
down one. I reckon I was seven and a half
and I've gone to seven, maybe six and a half
seven because of the way he I don't think he
fronted well enough on the he cor that's my own
personal thing. But and I'm not sure if he wants
to lead the whole of New Zealand or does he
want to lead us group.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
That's my question. But let's move on.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I mean, the police have owned up to leaving a
copy of the Prime Minister's itinery in the car window.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Hell happens there.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I saw this one over the weekend, some photos circulating
online of the PM's itinerary on at the front of
a police car window. Now, the PM's schedule is very
hush hush, so to have it in this sort of
public place is quite an issue. So in a statement,
police said that protocols around information security were not followed
on Sunday while the Prime Minister was in Queenstown and
(04:38):
the police vehicle, although it was locked, one page of
the itinery was visible through the window. While we are
and they've gone say, while they're confident that the risk
created by this error was minimal, the practice is not
acceptable and should not have happened. And they've gone say
they acknowledge it. Our people are human and this was
an unintended era. And I mean, yeah, fair enough, it
is an unintended era. Police are humans, So this sort
(05:00):
of stuff happens all the time, but you.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Know, all the time. So I mean, that's pretty out there,
isn't it. Everyone. I was where he's going to be
and what he's going to do. That's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Good Sorry, Nick, I mean like unintended errors happen all
the time. This this sort of thing doesn't happen all
the time. But you know, I remember when media got
it in the neck because we somebody, some climate protest
has found out whether the Prime Minister was going based
on the fact that they sent out some sort of
media release that went to the sort of the wrong
person on that list. And so the police are out
here openly will not openly accidentally displaying his schedule. It's
(05:33):
not a great look. But then again, you know, it's
not like the world has ended.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I'm going to ask you because I've I've got a
pretty strong view on this. On the other side of
the world, Cop twenty four looks like it's wrapped up
what was achieved. You know, I'm going to say nothing,
and I feel like this is now becoming a waste
of time.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Oh well, I think that's a lot of the sentiment
that a lot of people have around all the cops,
whether that be Cop twenty one, twenty two, twenty three,
twenty four. Then going forward as well. I mean you
can look at it quite cynically and say that they're
you're spending millions of dollars and spending or burning hundreds
of thousands of liters of diesel fuel to get so
many people to one place to have a bit of
(06:10):
a talk fest. So there is that argument, and that's
always going to be made, but you've got to look
at this one. I mean, they did. They did agree
to inject at least three hundred billion dollars US, so
it's about half a trillion dollars of New Zealand money
annually into humanities. Fight against climate change is the big headline,
and it's aimed at helping poorer nations cope with the
impact of global warming. And I actually do have quite
(06:33):
a lot of bit of time for a deal such
as this. I hate the idea that we in our
pedescal stools in western countries stand there and dictate to
some of the poorer countries what they should and shouldn't
do when it comes to their climate emissions. I mean,
if you're in a small poorer country you don't have
the resources to be able to buy a Tesla or
to buy a Nissan Aqua or sorry, a Toyota Aqua
(06:55):
or a Nisan leaf or things like that. You sort
of get the models that the Western world are finished
with the gas guzzlers, and who are we to dictate
what they're supposed to do in terms of climate change
when they're just trying to do very very basic things
such as prevent famines or helping people get access to
adequate medical care. So I think it's always been a
bit of a counterintuitive position from these Western countries, and
(07:19):
it's good to see that they're actually doing something in
terms of helping to combat this issue with a little
bit of money, so that it's not just wagging your
fingers at poorer countries while they battle with things that
we don't even have to think about here in the
Western country. It's actually doing something about it. So you know, yes,
it is a big talk fest, but I'm actually happy
to see something has come out of it that's quite tangible.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
This time, Thanks Jason, Always a pleasure, and I've got
a different interview. I thought that this was probably one
of the weakest cops that we've seen. We haven't seen
really anything to come out of it, but I mean
you're the one, you're the expert, and I'm never going
to argue with you. Thanks Jason, Thanks Jace, have a
great week at the behard.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
For more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills, listen live
to news talks It'd be Wellington from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talks EDB Direct from News Talks, edb's team
at Tolerance the Bee High buzz Uz.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Joining us for the be High Buzzers news Talks. Here
be political editor Jason Wolves.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Good morning, Jason, Oh, good morning.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Next, how are you doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Thank you very much? Okay, is this today? Actually it's
been a year since the government's been in office. What's
Luxan got to say about the first year?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Yeah, well, he's done a bit of immediate bless he's
appearing on the front page of the Post today talk
to the Herald and to urn Z as well, just
about sort of the first year and it's been one
heck of a first year. And those aren't his words,
those of mine, but I'm sure that he would echo
such similar sentiments. And I think that the fact that
it's kind of culminated this week in the Treaty principles debate,
(00:58):
shall we say, is really interesting because you'll remember at
the time it took quite a long time for the
coalition to form, and then Luckson eventually revealed that the treaty,
the Treaty Principal's Bill was one of the sticking points now,
he will argue then, and it's the big poll quote
at the top of the Post today. I have no
regrets in the way that that was formed. I mean,
at the end of the day, he is dealing with
(01:20):
the fallout of the treatise Principal's Bill, but he is
still the Prime Minister, so he'll probably with his business
hat on look at that and still chalk it up
to a win in terms of the fact that his
national government is still and was the government when this
was all put together in the Coalition agreement. But it's
a funny story. I mean I was reading it this
morning on the Post front page and it sort of
(01:42):
seemed like a bit of a checklist of a Chris
Blaxton bingo card. I mean, you have the first line
as a sports analogy, I can be captain in Firs five,
but I can't be prop and winger and fullback. In
terms of his position around the cabinet table. You've got
his references to Pepsi Max. You've got the fact that
he rises at four thirty am every morning. He talks
(02:02):
a bit about this quite often. The fact that you
know he used to be and you dalan Ceo. When
you're talking about Luxe and Bingo, you always have to
mention the fact that he talks about the last government
in terms of their bumper thickest slogans. You can come
down to the part where he says, I guess I
approach it slightly differently. I'm probably the person in New
Zealand's history that has got to be Prime minister in
(02:24):
the fastest amount of time, So ticking off the I'm
not a career politician and Bingo list as well. So
it's a very Christopher Luxon interview that one, and from
what I've seen in the other publications it's the same
sort of deal. So one year on and he's probably
what a lot of governments would consider to be their
honeymoon period. However, his personal polling shows that he's not
(02:45):
quite at the level, well nowhere near at the level
of Cinder r Dern and John Key when they're in
similar positions. So has he got more work to do? Yes,
of course he's a prime minister. They always have more
work to do. But has the coalition fallen apart? The
answer to that is no. I mean I said at
the time it was a very strong agreement. I know
he did a very good job at forging something like
this future proofs well. I guess we'll have to see
(03:07):
over the next two years. But for the first year
everything seems fine.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Jase. If you had to give him a score out
of ten, what would it be, I know you do.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
They're so binary, I would just listen. If I had
to say overall, I'd say, but a seven point eight
out of ten. I mean, there are still problems in
terms of the Coalition government, some issues that they're facing,
but all in all, you know, they haven't, as I say,
they haven't fallen apart. He's actually given David Seymour and
Winston Peter's quite a long leash to be able to
be their individual selves and represent their parties as well
(03:39):
as being ministers of the Crown. And I think that
is a very strong attribute in a leader in terms
of looking to future prove his government. So I'd say
pretty good, but there is some room for improvement.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I'm the same as you, but I think it went
down one. I reckon I was seven and a half
and I've gone to seven, maybe six and a half
seven because of the way he I don't think he
fronted well enough on the he cor that's my own
personal thing. But and I'm not sure if he wants
to lead the whole of New Zealand or does he
want to lead us group.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
That's my question. But let's move on.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I mean, the police have owned up to leaving a
copy of the Prime Minister's itinery in the car window.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Hell happens there.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I saw this one over the weekend, some photos circulating
online of the PM's itinerary on at the front of
a police car window. Now, the PM's schedule is very
hush hush, so to have it in this sort of
public place is quite an issue. So in a statement,
police said that protocols around information security were not followed
on Sunday while the Prime Minister was in Queenstown and
(04:38):
the police vehicle, although it was locked, one page of
the itinery was visible through the window. While we are
and they've gone say, while they're confident that the risk
created by this error was minimal, the practice is not
acceptable and should not have happened. And they've gone say
they acknowledge it. Our people are human and this was
an unintended era. And I mean, yeah, fair enough, it
is an unintended era. Police are humans, So this sort
(05:00):
of stuff happens all the time, but you.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Know, all the time. So I mean, that's pretty out there,
isn't it. Everyone. I was where he's going to be
and what he's going to do. That's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Good Sorry, Nick, I mean like unintended errors happen all
the time. This this sort of thing doesn't happen all
the time. But you know, I remember when media got
it in the neck because we somebody, some climate protest
has found out whether the Prime Minister was going based
on the fact that they sent out some sort of
media release that went to the sort of the wrong
person on that list. And so the police are out
here openly will not openly accidentally displaying his schedule. It's
(05:33):
not a great look. But then again, you know, it's
not like the world has ended.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I'm going to ask you because I've I've got a
pretty strong view on this. On the other side of
the world, Cop twenty four looks like it's wrapped up
what was achieved. You know, I'm going to say nothing,
and I feel like this is now becoming a waste
of time.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Oh well, I think that's a lot of the sentiment
that a lot of people have around all the cops,
whether that be Cop twenty one, twenty two, twenty three,
twenty four. Then going forward as well. I mean you
can look at it quite cynically and say that they're
you're spending millions of dollars and spending or burning hundreds
of thousands of liters of diesel fuel to get so
many people to one place to have a bit of
(06:10):
a talk fest. So there is that argument, and that's
always going to be made, but you've got to look
at this one. I mean, they did. They did agree
to inject at least three hundred billion dollars US, so
it's about half a trillion dollars of New Zealand money
annually into humanities. Fight against climate change is the big headline,
and it's aimed at helping poorer nations cope with the
impact of global warming. And I actually do have quite
(06:33):
a lot of bit of time for a deal such
as this. I hate the idea that we in our
pedescal stools in western countries stand there and dictate to
some of the poorer countries what they should and shouldn't
do when it comes to their climate emissions. I mean,
if you're in a small poorer country you don't have
the resources to be able to buy a Tesla or
to buy a Nissan Aqua or sorry, a Toyota Aqua
(06:55):
or a Nisan leaf or things like that. You sort
of get the models that the Western world are finished
with the gas guzzlers, and who are we to dictate
what they're supposed to do in terms of climate change
when they're just trying to do very very basic things
such as prevent famines or helping people get access to
adequate medical care. So I think it's always been a
bit of a counterintuitive position from these Western countries, and
(07:19):
it's good to see that they're actually doing something in
terms of helping to combat this issue with a little
bit of money, so that it's not just wagging your
fingers at poorer countries while they battle with things that
we don't even have to think about here in the
Western country. It's actually doing something about it. So you know, yes,
it is a big talk fest, but I'm actually happy
to see something has come out of it that's quite tangible.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
This time, Thanks Jason, Always a pleasure, and I've got
a different interview. I thought that this was probably one
of the weakest cops that we've seen. We haven't seen
really anything to come out of it, but I mean
you're the one, you're the expert, and I'm never going
to argue with you. Thanks Jason, Thanks Jace, have a
great week at the behard.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
For more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills, listen live
to news talks It'd be Wellington from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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