June 30, 2025 • 10 mins
It's been a big weekend of music on Worth Farm in Somerset, England as the 2025 Glastonbury music festival was held.
This week Nick and James dissect the highlights of the festival, argue about an audio-visual experience that is coming to Wellington this month, and listen to Liam Finn's latest album Hyperverse.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talk said b Higgs, you releases and keeping
tabs on local artists. His music time on Wellington Mornings.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's that time we do every couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
James Irwin from Creative comes in here and we have
a bit of a chat about music because he keeps
us up to date. He keeps us all all our listeners,
he keeps up to date with what's going on now.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
James, this music time. But I want to start with
something that you will.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
You want to start with something called you went to
a kapa hakka and a written word open mic night.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'll be what the hell's that got to do with music?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
We're and we're talking capa haka to start with and
spoken word. I'm kind of putting trying to put myself
out of my comfort zone a little bit this year.
I go to a lot of gigs. I went to
a music gig last week the week before as well.
I go to a lot of concerts. But what I'm
trying to do is to go to things that I
normally would look at it and go, oh, that's not me.
So I saw advertised that there was a thing called
(01:08):
Taikota Kapahaka and it's for seniors, it's for the komatua,
and it was on it to Papa, and I had
no idea what this was going to be like. There
were around six hundred komatua from all over the country
who came down and they.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Performed in the crowd or oh no, there were quite
a few pakiha and I tell you what, this was
stunning that they were performing whiter and POI you know what,
I love the richness of the voice and the older
the voice skits.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
So one of the groups which who I just I adored.
I stayed for half the day to Papa. I was
in the theater. There there were groups coming in and
out for doing half hour performances. I think it was
on Mauli television as well, and that was you know,
it was just it was such a great thing. I
really loved Nati Kahanunu. They had. I had a chat
to one of the ladies afterwards. A couple of their
(01:58):
members were eighty five years old, and there were a
couple of older members of the group who came out
in one of the other groups who came out on
zimmer frames and then they stood there and then they
did pois and it really was magnificent. And apparently it
goes on every single year. It's at Tapapa, and I
just thought, yes, every year and it was just so good.
So I was really proud to go along to that.
(02:19):
I loved the richness of the voices. Well done Nati Kahn,
but weld one everyone, you know, it was just superb.
So that was that was part of my weekend. A
second thing I went to. I went to a thing
called say the Thing at Underground Tavern in Pirie Street
in Mount Victoria.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Here.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
A lot of our listeners will know that place as
the old Greek restaurant.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
What was it called the Greek the Greek Hall.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
The Greek you know, not the Greek Hall, not the
one on So it's right behind the KFC, and it
was a Greek restaurant for hundreds of years.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Greek, great Greek.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah yeah, I muld have got that, not quite the
right name. But and this was the written word performance
open mic evening and a mate dragged me along and
I was like, oh, this is going to be terrible,
this is just going to be people reading part Well,
it wasn't. It was a really it was people who
enjoy writing, so a lot like musicians have open mic nights,
this was an open reading night for people who enjoy
(03:15):
writing writing. There writ there was a guy who did
quite literally did a speech that you know, sounded kind
of like was a toast master's speech. There was an
author who who's quite a well known Wellington author, Carrie McDougall,
who read something from a novel that she's about to publish.
There was a guy called Duncan Saki's who was actually
the writer of the film Scarfees, and he got up
(03:39):
and he did this really cool piece on on superhero
sort of satire. But then there were a whole lot
of you know, young first timers, so I just really enjoyed.
It was completely out of my comfort zone, but it
was a great night. And apparently it's you know, this
is this is not an advertisement for it, but it's
I Got dread DeLong. It happens on the last Wednesday
every month at that venue, and it was a cool
(03:59):
venue and it was just a really fun night. So
I thought I'm going to give it a mention because
I love that Wellington. You know, people we're battling down
and people are going, oh, you know, wanting to, wanting to,
but there's some cool, really stuff. There's some really cool
stuff happening out there. So I just thought I wanted
to mention those two things. And yeah, So the rest
of the weekend I spent watching Glastonbury.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Now Glastonbury is the biggest of the biggest.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
It is the Cream Della Cream of concerts. I had
to do a bit of backdoor work. I had to
buy what's called a VPN so I could watch the
BBC iPlayer. I watched so many fantastic shows. I just
couldn't Rod Stewart was on. I didn't actually see Rod Stuart.
I didn't see Rod Stewart. I would have loved to.
He had Ronnie Wood, he had Mick Hucknall apparently out
(04:45):
there singing along with him. Neil Young, I saw a
bit of that. Neil Young was great, but I don't
know if the crowd totally got him. He like Neil
always does. He did look like a mechanic from a
small sort of southern American town. He was wearing kind
of like a little hat. But he was called Alanis
Morrissette was my favorite and probably because I'm in that
(05:06):
totally in the demo for Alantis Morris set. The good
thing is you can now go if you missed Glastonbury.
So I'm talking about something that's passed.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Get onto YouTube last weekend.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah yeah, but you know, I know it's frustrating when
if this is the first you're hearing about it for
our listeners. Get on YouTube BBC Music and just searched
Glastonbury twenty twenty five. Niall Rodgers did this amazing set.
Who Ian McAllen was on with a group called Scissor Sisters.
(05:36):
That was really good. The Doctor who who was Peter
Capoldi Capaldi. He was a doctor who quite a few
years ago he came out and sung with Franz Ferdinand.
So there were all these amazing you know artists. Yeah, yeah,
so I'm talking about the legacy artists, a lot an artists.
There was Olivia Rodrigo. She closed the festival and she
brought out the Cures Robert Smith and they did a
(05:56):
couple of really cool Cure songs. Lord played she Lord
did a secret set, so she came and played her
new album in full, which I don't know if that
totally hit with the because it had only come out
that morning, and she played the whole album in full,
so it was the first time most of them had
heard it, and then she did a couple of her
big songs at the end. There was all the classics.
Charlie XCX did the whole Brat Summer and Burnt the
(06:19):
Brats Summer thing, and all the kids, you know, connect
to with the kids. But it was really nice seeing
young people totally appreciating the older acts like Pulp weezer
Gary Newman, you know him, Yeah, of course, yeah, So
he played. He was looking a bit worse aware. I
think he's coming up to seventy and but he he
rocked down and he brought out his teenage daughter and
they did did that song. You know, obviously the song
(06:40):
is famous for cars. It was just really cool and
there's two hundred thousand people there. How they make it happen,
and a heat wave and a heat wave and none
of like the previous years when there's like a mud bath.
It was hot the whole time. There was a bit
of controversy. There's an Irish band called Kneecap Goodness, we
haven't even gone too any music yet. Kneecap there was
(07:00):
a few controversies with that, with the Free Palestine and
and there was a lot of political murals, a lot
of protest art on mask Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I really want to see that. I see that. You've
got some Liamphin news.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yes, Liam Finn. I really like Liam Finn obviously, son
of Neil, brother of Al roy All, a talented musical family.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You know, if you know he's done a few albums.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yeah, he's done a few albums. He hasn't done anything
solo for quite a while, and he's released a new
album called Hyperverse. I love it. It's kind of di
y meets this kind of high concept. So he recorded
it all on Twitch. Now I don't even know what
Twitch is, but I know one of my colleagues, LeAnn,
is forever watching Twitch and watching people do things and
and and so he did it with this with an
(07:48):
audience who came and gave him suggestions. He played all
the instruments, all the singing. It's a terrific album. It
did drop on Records Still Day as a special limits edition,
but it's just dropped this week as a general release.
It's it's one of those albums that's got album called
it's called hyperverse. Let's have a bit of a listen.
(08:10):
Oh dug, it's that classic finn sound, the school.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Spence.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
So yeah, very very really good melodies.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Almost almost English pop.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yeah yeah, yep. But then it's one of those albums
that you're gonna listen to it. And there's a couple
of little punky numbers of the song called con Man,
which is supposedly written about a certain president. And yeah,
it's a great album. I would say give it a
few spins. There's some great songs, there's a few challenging songs. Hey, now,
another thing I want to talk about before we go.
(09:01):
There's a thing coming up and my mates in Auckland
had all told me about it about a month ago,
and it's it's right up my alley. It's a three
hundred and sixty degree sound experience. It's called dark Field
and it's heading to Wellington from this weekend July fourth
to twenty seventh, and it's an experience. There's going to
be shipping containers and there's two experiences. One is a
(09:22):
seance set in a Victorian seance room, and there's a
flight experience.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
It's a flight crashing experience.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Well, I don't know see.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
James. I tried to get Nick to do this because
we were invited. Really he has refused. No. I think
this is going to be incredible.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
This is going to be amazing, and it's not scary.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Apparently.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I've had my mate said it's incredible and it's three
dimensional sound. I reckon it's going to be awesome.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Three dimensional sound of being on a plane in a crash,
not funder.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
We should all go, we should all go. I've been
telling him that, Yeah, I'm going to go. I'm going
to go. I think it's going to be spectacular. What
people inland told me it's amazing. So you stay at
home and me and me and the young feller and
we'll get a whole lo listeners and we should go
along to it. It's going to be incredible. Sorry, we're
going to talk about Lord, but you ran out of time.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
There we go, JAMESI thank you. I will talk about
Lord next time because we've got to talk about Lord.
I mean, she's just incredible.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
For more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills, listen live
to news Talks It'd be Wellington from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talk said b Higgs, you releases and keeping
tabs on local artists. His music time on Wellington Mornings.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's that time we do every couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
James Irwin from Creative comes in here and we have
a bit of a chat about music because he keeps
us up to date. He keeps us all all our listeners,
he keeps up to date with what's going on now.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
James, this music time. But I want to start with
something that you will.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
You want to start with something called you went to
a kapa hakka and a written word open mic night.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'll be what the hell's that got to do with music?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
We're and we're talking capa haka to start with and
spoken word. I'm kind of putting trying to put myself
out of my comfort zone a little bit this year.
I go to a lot of gigs. I went to
a music gig last week the week before as well.
I go to a lot of concerts. But what I'm
trying to do is to go to things that I
normally would look at it and go, oh, that's not me.
So I saw advertised that there was a thing called
(01:08):
Taikota Kapahaka and it's for seniors, it's for the komatua,
and it was on it to Papa, and I had
no idea what this was going to be like. There
were around six hundred komatua from all over the country
who came down and they.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Performed in the crowd or oh no, there were quite
a few pakiha and I tell you what, this was
stunning that they were performing whiter and POI you know what,
I love the richness of the voice and the older
the voice skits.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
So one of the groups which who I just I adored.
I stayed for half the day to Papa. I was
in the theater. There there were groups coming in and
out for doing half hour performances. I think it was
on Mauli television as well, and that was you know,
it was just it was such a great thing. I
really loved Nati Kahanunu. They had. I had a chat
to one of the ladies afterwards. A couple of their
(01:58):
members were eighty five years old, and there were a
couple of older members of the group who came out
in one of the other groups who came out on
zimmer frames and then they stood there and then they
did pois and it really was magnificent. And apparently it
goes on every single year. It's at Tapapa, and I
just thought, yes, every year and it was just so good.
So I was really proud to go along to that.
(02:19):
I loved the richness of the voices. Well done Nati Kahn,
but weld one everyone, you know, it was just superb.
So that was that was part of my weekend. A
second thing I went to. I went to a thing
called say the Thing at Underground Tavern in Pirie Street
in Mount Victoria.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Here.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
A lot of our listeners will know that place as
the old Greek restaurant.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
What was it called the Greek the Greek Hall.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
The Greek you know, not the Greek Hall, not the
one on So it's right behind the KFC, and it
was a Greek restaurant for hundreds of years.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Greek, great Greek.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah yeah, I muld have got that, not quite the
right name. But and this was the written word performance
open mic evening and a mate dragged me along and
I was like, oh, this is going to be terrible,
this is just going to be people reading part Well,
it wasn't. It was a really it was people who
enjoy writing, so a lot like musicians have open mic nights,
this was an open reading night for people who enjoy
(03:15):
writing writing. There writ there was a guy who did
quite literally did a speech that you know, sounded kind
of like was a toast master's speech. There was an
author who who's quite a well known Wellington author, Carrie McDougall,
who read something from a novel that she's about to publish.
There was a guy called Duncan Saki's who was actually
the writer of the film Scarfees, and he got up
(03:39):
and he did this really cool piece on on superhero
sort of satire. But then there were a whole lot
of you know, young first timers, so I just really enjoyed.
It was completely out of my comfort zone, but it
was a great night. And apparently it's you know, this
is this is not an advertisement for it, but it's
I Got dread DeLong. It happens on the last Wednesday
every month at that venue, and it was a cool
(03:59):
venue and it was just a really fun night. So
I thought I'm going to give it a mention because
I love that Wellington. You know, people we're battling down
and people are going, oh, you know, wanting to, wanting to,
but there's some cool, really stuff. There's some really cool
stuff happening out there. So I just thought I wanted
to mention those two things. And yeah, So the rest
of the weekend I spent watching Glastonbury.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Now Glastonbury is the biggest of the biggest.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
It is the Cream Della Cream of concerts. I had
to do a bit of backdoor work. I had to
buy what's called a VPN so I could watch the
BBC iPlayer. I watched so many fantastic shows. I just
couldn't Rod Stewart was on. I didn't actually see Rod Stuart.
I didn't see Rod Stewart. I would have loved to.
He had Ronnie Wood, he had Mick Hucknall apparently out
(04:45):
there singing along with him. Neil Young, I saw a
bit of that. Neil Young was great, but I don't
know if the crowd totally got him. He like Neil
always does. He did look like a mechanic from a
small sort of southern American town. He was wearing kind
of like a little hat. But he was called Alanis
Morrissette was my favorite and probably because I'm in that
(05:06):
totally in the demo for Alantis Morris set. The good
thing is you can now go if you missed Glastonbury.
So I'm talking about something that's passed.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Get onto YouTube last weekend.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah yeah, but you know, I know it's frustrating when
if this is the first you're hearing about it for
our listeners. Get on YouTube BBC Music and just searched
Glastonbury twenty twenty five. Niall Rodgers did this amazing set.
Who Ian McAllen was on with a group called Scissor Sisters.
(05:36):
That was really good. The Doctor who who was Peter
Capoldi Capaldi. He was a doctor who quite a few
years ago he came out and sung with Franz Ferdinand.
So there were all these amazing you know artists. Yeah, yeah,
so I'm talking about the legacy artists, a lot an artists.
There was Olivia Rodrigo. She closed the festival and she
brought out the Cures Robert Smith and they did a
(05:56):
couple of really cool Cure songs. Lord played she Lord
did a secret set, so she came and played her
new album in full, which I don't know if that
totally hit with the because it had only come out
that morning, and she played the whole album in full,
so it was the first time most of them had
heard it, and then she did a couple of her
big songs at the end. There was all the classics.
Charlie XCX did the whole Brat Summer and Burnt the
(06:19):
Brats Summer thing, and all the kids, you know, connect
to with the kids. But it was really nice seeing
young people totally appreciating the older acts like Pulp weezer
Gary Newman, you know him, Yeah, of course, yeah, So
he played. He was looking a bit worse aware. I
think he's coming up to seventy and but he he
rocked down and he brought out his teenage daughter and
they did did that song. You know, obviously the song
(06:40):
is famous for cars. It was just really cool and
there's two hundred thousand people there. How they make it happen,
and a heat wave and a heat wave and none
of like the previous years when there's like a mud bath.
It was hot the whole time. There was a bit
of controversy. There's an Irish band called Kneecap Goodness, we
haven't even gone too any music yet. Kneecap there was
(07:00):
a few controversies with that, with the Free Palestine and
and there was a lot of political murals, a lot
of protest art on mask Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I really want to see that. I see that. You've
got some Liamphin news.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yes, Liam Finn. I really like Liam Finn obviously, son
of Neil, brother of Al roy All, a talented musical family.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You know, if you know he's done a few albums.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yeah, he's done a few albums. He hasn't done anything
solo for quite a while, and he's released a new
album called Hyperverse. I love it. It's kind of di
y meets this kind of high concept. So he recorded
it all on Twitch. Now I don't even know what
Twitch is, but I know one of my colleagues, LeAnn,
is forever watching Twitch and watching people do things and
and and so he did it with this with an
(07:48):
audience who came and gave him suggestions. He played all
the instruments, all the singing. It's a terrific album. It
did drop on Records Still Day as a special limits edition,
but it's just dropped this week as a general release.
It's it's one of those albums that's got album called
it's called hyperverse. Let's have a bit of a listen.
(08:10):
Oh dug, it's that classic finn sound, the school.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Spence.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
So yeah, very very really good melodies.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Almost almost English pop.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yeah yeah, yep. But then it's one of those albums
that you're gonna listen to it. And there's a couple
of little punky numbers of the song called con Man,
which is supposedly written about a certain president. And yeah,
it's a great album. I would say give it a
few spins. There's some great songs, there's a few challenging songs. Hey, now,
another thing I want to talk about before we go.
(09:01):
There's a thing coming up and my mates in Auckland
had all told me about it about a month ago,
and it's it's right up my alley. It's a three
hundred and sixty degree sound experience. It's called dark Field
and it's heading to Wellington from this weekend July fourth
to twenty seventh, and it's an experience. There's going to
be shipping containers and there's two experiences. One is a
(09:22):
seance set in a Victorian seance room, and there's a
flight experience.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
It's a flight crashing experience.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Well, I don't know see.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
James. I tried to get Nick to do this because
we were invited. Really he has refused. No. I think
this is going to be incredible.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
This is going to be amazing, and it's not scary.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Apparently.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I've had my mate said it's incredible and it's three
dimensional sound. I reckon it's going to be awesome.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Three dimensional sound of being on a plane in a crash,
not funder.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
We should all go, we should all go. I've been
telling him that, Yeah, I'm going to go. I'm going
to go. I think it's going to be spectacular. What
people inland told me it's amazing. So you stay at
home and me and me and the young feller and
we'll get a whole lo listeners and we should go
along to it. It's going to be incredible. Sorry, we're
going to talk about Lord, but you ran out of time.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
There we go, JAMESI thank you. I will talk about
Lord next time because we've got to talk about Lord.
I mean, she's just incredible.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
For more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills, listen live
to news Talks It'd be Wellington from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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