Both Labour and Te Pati Māori have selected their candidates to run in the Tamaki Makaurau by-election - a race necessitated by the death of incumbent MP Takutai Tarsh Kemp. So how tight is the race expected to be?
Also, Green Party co-leader Chloe Swarbrick has admitted her loyalties lay with the Act party while at university. How many other examples are there of MPs having vastly different political views as a young person?
Newstalk ZB political editor Jason Walls joined Nick Mills for the Beehive Buzz.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from news Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Said b.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Direct from news Talk said Bee's team at Parliaments the
bee Hive buzz.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hip joining us for the bee Hive buzzes news Talk,
said be Political editor Jason Walls.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Good morning, Jason, Good morning Neck. I'm glad I arrived
here safely in Wellington. I was flying down from Auckland
this morning and my flight got turned away halfway through.
So I was flying down and the plane started to veer,
and then it kept veering and then it went back
the way we came. But fortunately I was able to
join the queue of some other flight that was going
down to Wellington and get down here in one piece.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
But so you went halfway down, halfway down the North Island,
and then you flew back to Auckland and then flew again.
Is it how it happened?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah? Yeah, I thought I went.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I thought the fog was at orcland I thought Orklany
Airport was the problem.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
No, well, I mean it was a problem for a
lot of them. And that's why when we got back
down a lot of people went to go check back
in for a flight and they were told that the
next one is only at nine pm. But I just
joined the back of another clue in Q and said, Hey,
have you got any seats and they said, ah, yep,
somebody hasn't turned up, So Bob's wrong. The things I
do for you next, the things that I do to
get on this show. I move heaven and Earth for you.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Please don't tell me you went up and said, hey,
I'm Jason Walls.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
No, I know what you're about to say. I did
not pull mill status. I couldn't. I did not. You
did not. You did, so cod dare you insinuate such
a thing?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I look a story that's tickled my fancy and I
want to ask you about it. Apparently it's just come
out this morning, and I've only just seen it in
an article, so I'm only just picking it up this morning. Slowe, Chloe, Chloe,
slowy Chloe. Chloe Smallbrick has come out and said that
when she was younger, she supported the egg Party.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Hmmm, curious, right. I think the way that it goes
the way that it goes for most people, including myself,
as you start off at university learning about politics and
learning about the world, and you start as a social
as a communist and say, hang on a second, this
is the best system of government, and then you kind
of get a little bit of life perspective, and then
you kind of mellow out a little bit more and
have some political perspectives that are a little further right
(02:18):
dead or of very left, of further right of where
you started when you're at university. Chloe seems to have
gone the other way, and your producer Ethan, I was
talking to him just before we came on, made the
point that Brook van Velden was exactly the other way around.
She started as a Greenie and ended up his act.
So I reckon Brooke and Chloe should start the sort
of reformist party where they take the best bits of
(02:38):
both party and then kind of move forward together.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Apparently Ethan once again pulling me up with information about
political stuff. He said, Paula Bennett was a Labor Young
Labor Party member.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, yeah, And famously she wrote articles about the government,
the National government at the time, saying how bad it
was and how terrible it was for working people. And
then she turned around and she was the deputy deputy
prime or deputy leader. At least I think she might
have been Deputy Prime Minister for a stint as well.
So it just goes to show it's very interesting, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
The weird thing is and this must be a generational thing,
so let's quickly talk about it. Jason. You know, in
my day, in my day, your one political party for
your whole life from the minute you're all almost about
nine or ten or eleven or twelve in my day.
But now it's like dropping and changing. That's almost like
your sexuality changing. Really, isn't it for me?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Maybe for you? Okay, we speak for yourself, not for me,
but okay. It's a similar thing when it comes to
people's jobs as well. Like back in your day, as
I'll put it is, people would kind of tend to
stick to their career for all their working life and
stick to one job, but now we kind of move
around quite often. I think every five years you change
frears or so. I think it maybe is reflecting the
attention span that young people have these days.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Okay, let's get on to some real political stuff. Then
the government's announced the big push for international students. Now
I love this idea, but I also have just done
an hour about how hard it is for young people
to get work, and under the new scheme, they're going
to make it more easier for international students to work.
So there's good and bad in the story.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well there is, and it's always going to be a controversial,
a controversial story. This Erica Stamford. She essentially wants to
get more money into New Zealand's economy by lifting the
amount of enrollments from eighty four thousand in twenty twenty
four to about one hundred and twenty thousand in twenty
thirty four. So it's a big jump. And one of
(04:33):
the ways that she thinks she's going to do this
is by raising the hours a week from twenty twenty
to twenty five hours, and the working rights will be
extended to all tertiary students in approved exchange programs. So,
I mean, it's an interesting one, as you point out,
because there will be people saying, we'll hang on a second,
you know, we can't fill the vacancies. Now what he thinks,
why do you think that we're going to be able
to do it with the new students. Another saying that
(04:55):
maybe we should prioritize KIWI students. So I'm interested to
see where this one falls politically actually, and be interested
in some of the feedback of your texters too.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, I mean both of them as that they don't
want them being able to work the extra hours. I
can tell you that. But I get very frustrated as
an employer when when you say to someone can you
do an extra shift this week and when you you know,
and they say no, I've done my X amount of ours,
I can't do anymore. So it's kind of get I
get the idea behind it. Now. The party had the
(05:25):
agm over the weekend. Anything big to come out of that.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I mean, it's it's David Seymour's act.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
They always make a bit of a splash when they
say the things, and one of the things is they're
really fixated and fair enough on them is on this
new this idea of supermarket competition, and something Nikola Willis
has really been hot on as well. David Seymour is
wanting to use the fast track consenting for new stores
to make it easier and cheaper for them to set
(05:53):
up in New Zealand. So he's thinking Walmarts and Tescos
and some of these big players, and he wants to
make it as easy as possible. He says nothing would
send a clearest signal that New Zealand is a serious
as serious than a bespoke legislation. Welcome Matt giving permission
for say, Walmart to set up whole chain in one
go is what he said. So it's here he's really
(06:15):
reflecting on this idea that you know, we should be
opening the doors to new supermarket players rather than you know,
making it harder for them to get here.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
But Jasey's gone even further than that. He said, no, no,
you know, get a liquor license straight away. No, no
application process, nothing like that. I mean, what does that
tell other people that have spent hundreds of thousand dollars
on liquor licensing and getting the right stuff and the
Maori stuff and all that. I mean, everyone's done. It
has to do the hard yards, don't they.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Well, I mean those competitors will say that that's essentially
pretty unfair because you point out that they would probably
have spent a heck of a lot of money being
able to get into a position where they were by
where they were able to sell liquorm and have a
liquor license thing. So for the government to turn around
and just say, oh, you're allowed to do this now.
Of course they'd be pretty upset with that.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I think really quickly because we've got to go. But
Labor and to Party Maria announced their candidates for the
by elections and asked the tragic death of Tash Kemp.
Anything interesting here.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Oh, it's basically it's going to be a rat race
between Labor Anti Party Marty. It's Penny Henn at eight.
We all saw that coming. He's won the seat before.
He's very known in the community and I think he's
in with a good chance versus or any Kaipra and
she's a former news Hub broadcaster, so it's good. I
think it's going to be tighter than a lot of
people think. I mean TI Party Marty obviously did win
it by forty two votes, but these two facing off
(07:34):
against each other, it's going to be a heck of
an interesting run.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Thanks, Jason's always a pleasure, always great to catch up
with what's happening at the Behive news Talk, said be's
political editor Jason Walls. I mean both well known. I
mean it's going to be an interesting race that one.
I'm looking forward to it, really looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
For more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills. Listen live
to news talks It'd be Wellington from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from news Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Said b.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Direct from news Talk said Bee's team at Parliaments the
bee Hive buzz.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hip joining us for the bee Hive buzzes news Talk,
said be Political editor Jason Walls.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Good morning, Jason, Good morning Neck. I'm glad I arrived
here safely in Wellington. I was flying down from Auckland
this morning and my flight got turned away halfway through.
So I was flying down and the plane started to veer,
and then it kept veering and then it went back
the way we came. But fortunately I was able to
join the queue of some other flight that was going
down to Wellington and get down here in one piece.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
But so you went halfway down, halfway down the North Island,
and then you flew back to Auckland and then flew again.
Is it how it happened?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah? Yeah, I thought I went.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I thought the fog was at orcland I thought Orklany
Airport was the problem.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
No, well, I mean it was a problem for a
lot of them. And that's why when we got back
down a lot of people went to go check back
in for a flight and they were told that the
next one is only at nine pm. But I just
joined the back of another clue in Q and said, Hey,
have you got any seats and they said, ah, yep,
somebody hasn't turned up, So Bob's wrong. The things I
do for you next, the things that I do to
get on this show. I move heaven and Earth for you.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Please don't tell me you went up and said, hey,
I'm Jason Walls.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
No, I know what you're about to say. I did
not pull mill status. I couldn't. I did not. You
did not. You did, so cod dare you insinuate such
a thing?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I look a story that's tickled my fancy and I
want to ask you about it. Apparently it's just come
out this morning, and I've only just seen it in
an article, so I'm only just picking it up this morning. Slowe, Chloe, Chloe,
slowy Chloe. Chloe Smallbrick has come out and said that
when she was younger, she supported the egg Party.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Hmmm, curious, right. I think the way that it goes
the way that it goes for most people, including myself,
as you start off at university learning about politics and
learning about the world, and you start as a social
as a communist and say, hang on a second, this
is the best system of government, and then you kind
of get a little bit of life perspective, and then
you kind of mellow out a little bit more and
have some political perspectives that are a little further right
(02:18):
dead or of very left, of further right of where
you started when you're at university. Chloe seems to have
gone the other way, and your producer Ethan, I was
talking to him just before we came on, made the
point that Brook van Velden was exactly the other way around.
She started as a Greenie and ended up his act.
So I reckon Brooke and Chloe should start the sort
of reformist party where they take the best bits of
(02:38):
both party and then kind of move forward together.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Apparently Ethan once again pulling me up with information about
political stuff. He said, Paula Bennett was a Labor Young
Labor Party member.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, yeah, And famously she wrote articles about the government,
the National government at the time, saying how bad it
was and how terrible it was for working people. And
then she turned around and she was the deputy deputy
prime or deputy leader. At least I think she might
have been Deputy Prime Minister for a stint as well.
So it just goes to show it's very interesting, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
The weird thing is and this must be a generational thing,
so let's quickly talk about it. Jason. You know, in
my day, in my day, your one political party for
your whole life from the minute you're all almost about
nine or ten or eleven or twelve in my day.
But now it's like dropping and changing. That's almost like
your sexuality changing. Really, isn't it for me?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Maybe for you? Okay, we speak for yourself, not for me,
but okay. It's a similar thing when it comes to
people's jobs as well. Like back in your day, as
I'll put it is, people would kind of tend to
stick to their career for all their working life and
stick to one job, but now we kind of move
around quite often. I think every five years you change
frears or so. I think it maybe is reflecting the
attention span that young people have these days.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Okay, let's get on to some real political stuff. Then
the government's announced the big push for international students. Now
I love this idea, but I also have just done
an hour about how hard it is for young people
to get work, and under the new scheme, they're going
to make it more easier for international students to work.
So there's good and bad in the story.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well there is, and it's always going to be a controversial,
a controversial story. This Erica Stamford. She essentially wants to
get more money into New Zealand's economy by lifting the
amount of enrollments from eighty four thousand in twenty twenty
four to about one hundred and twenty thousand in twenty
thirty four. So it's a big jump. And one of
(04:33):
the ways that she thinks she's going to do this
is by raising the hours a week from twenty twenty
to twenty five hours, and the working rights will be
extended to all tertiary students in approved exchange programs. So,
I mean, it's an interesting one, as you point out,
because there will be people saying, we'll hang on a second,
you know, we can't fill the vacancies. Now what he thinks,
why do you think that we're going to be able
to do it with the new students. Another saying that
(04:55):
maybe we should prioritize KIWI students. So I'm interested to
see where this one falls politically actually, and be interested
in some of the feedback of your texters too.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, I mean both of them as that they don't
want them being able to work the extra hours. I
can tell you that. But I get very frustrated as
an employer when when you say to someone can you
do an extra shift this week and when you you know,
and they say no, I've done my X amount of ours,
I can't do anymore. So it's kind of get I
get the idea behind it. Now. The party had the
(05:25):
agm over the weekend. Anything big to come out of that.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I mean, it's it's David Seymour's act.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
They always make a bit of a splash when they
say the things, and one of the things is they're
really fixated and fair enough on them is on this
new this idea of supermarket competition, and something Nikola Willis
has really been hot on as well. David Seymour is
wanting to use the fast track consenting for new stores
to make it easier and cheaper for them to set
(05:53):
up in New Zealand. So he's thinking Walmarts and Tescos
and some of these big players, and he wants to
make it as easy as possible. He says nothing would
send a clearest signal that New Zealand is a serious
as serious than a bespoke legislation. Welcome Matt giving permission
for say, Walmart to set up whole chain in one
go is what he said. So it's here he's really
(06:15):
reflecting on this idea that you know, we should be
opening the doors to new supermarket players rather than you know,
making it harder for them to get here.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
But Jasey's gone even further than that. He said, no, no,
you know, get a liquor license straight away. No, no
application process, nothing like that. I mean, what does that
tell other people that have spent hundreds of thousand dollars
on liquor licensing and getting the right stuff and the
Maori stuff and all that. I mean, everyone's done. It
has to do the hard yards, don't they.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Well, I mean those competitors will say that that's essentially
pretty unfair because you point out that they would probably
have spent a heck of a lot of money being
able to get into a position where they were by
where they were able to sell liquorm and have a
liquor license thing. So for the government to turn around
and just say, oh, you're allowed to do this now.
Of course they'd be pretty upset with that.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I think really quickly because we've got to go. But
Labor and to Party Maria announced their candidates for the
by elections and asked the tragic death of Tash Kemp.
Anything interesting here.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Oh, it's basically it's going to be a rat race
between Labor Anti Party Marty. It's Penny Henn at eight.
We all saw that coming. He's won the seat before.
He's very known in the community and I think he's
in with a good chance versus or any Kaipra and
she's a former news Hub broadcaster, so it's good. I
think it's going to be tighter than a lot of
people think. I mean TI Party Marty obviously did win
it by forty two votes, but these two facing off
(07:34):
against each other, it's going to be a heck of
an interesting run.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Thanks, Jason's always a pleasure, always great to catch up
with what's happening at the Behive news Talk, said be's
political editor Jason Walls. I mean both well known. I
mean it's going to be an interesting race that one.
I'm looking forward to it, really looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
For more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills. Listen live
to news talks It'd be Wellington from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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