Monday, June 5, 2023

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Episode Transcript

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They're a well known group now wasnot so well known when they made that
song, and that was an appearanceon America's Got Talent, and they had
actually been panned once and this wastheir second attempt at staying on the show.
And that group is the well knownnow Pentatonics doing a song the opening

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song for MTV when it came onthe air, I knew that this song
had significance to MTV. I didnot realize it was the very first.
It was a personal well on MTV. And of course it was done by
a group that I don't know.You call him a one hit wonder if
at all. I don't know ifyou'd call this song a big hit.

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But at that time, the notorietywas that it was the first song played
on MTV and of course had significancein video killed the radio star and MTV
streams and aspirations of you know,becoming significant kent, which they did.
And the song first done by agroup called the Buggles, And it's the

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only song I know the Buggles did. I mean, I can look it
up see if they had more,but boy, that's the only one I
know that they did. And myson used to like to play that for
me every once in a while.Who did both? And shut up,
Chad. You know, Dad's gotenough to think about, you know,
MTV. I W I will neverforget there. Come on. Because we

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were in uh TCA Telecommunicative Arts classat IOWA. Stayed over in the old
exhibit hall, which no longer existsmost of the buildings I went to school
and don't but anyway, we allgathered around a big twenty one inch console
TV. Yeah bad, must havebeen heavy. Oh yeah, we gathered

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around it. It was in oneof the rooms there, and the broadcast
started, and that for me wasthe beginning of my recognition of MTV,
which I think their early years weretheir best years. I'm you know,
I'm not saying they're bad now,I'm just saying they were dedicated to be
in a DJ kind of show.So when you are you pointing at oh,

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I was just cabling over there andthe keyboard and so forth. Oh,
don't worry, don't not not tobe worried about be worried. If
I get electrocuted, you just jumpup from this seat and I will I
will go into action and we willlisten to automation col back, yeah,
step back from those radios. Colvacis here and uh yeah, anyway,

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well, the wiring is wild inhere, you know, No, I
know, I can't believe Mellie you'vedealt with it all these years. But
uh, it's fun. It's achallenge. You never know when you get
knocked out of your seat with acharge or something, you know, and
h and every once in a while, you know you'll touch something, especially
if it's static electricity or something.Send the screen black black, yeah,

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and you hope they come up again, right, Yeah, one of those
I have. They do most ofthe time. I've danced through adversity here,
believe me. You know. Myfirst prohibited language was because of a
problem here, but the mic waslive. Uh good anyway, Yeah,
I'm still here. We got outof that one, got out of that
one. I'm okay now. Butyeah, of course now that I'm getting

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ready to and I won't use theterm pull the plug. That scares me.
No, that's probably not the rightnot a good one. He just
pulled the plug on him. Butno, no, I might pull the
plug on the way out and maybeyeah, yeah, darken up things.
But uh yeah, so I've beenkind of reminiscing on some of the things
that I've forgotten about doing over theyears. You do them because they went

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along with the turf, and theywere they were fun. By One of
the things I always think about isthe Senior Show. UM did a couple
of shows once I was of theright age. Was not a star,
was not a single act. Iwas amongst the group both times. But
such a simple thing as hosting.They wanted to do like a Hollywood red

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carpet kind of thing outside the auditorium, and I went out and acted like
the host of the red carpet show. And then they would drive up and
I would greet people and open thedoors of the cars and escort the ladies
up to the door. And itwas just fun. It was fun.
You're talking about the Senior Variety Showup in Storiar City, No, I'm

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talking about Senior Variety Show here.Oh okay, yeah, yeah, we're
here at the City Auditorium in August, which will come up again. But
they always put a challenge to me, they do this, do that,
do this, and I was alwaysglad to do it and it was very
rewarding. And again it will comeup again in August and it will be
a right show. And the reasonI think of that show so much,

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And it was one of those thingswhere I was privy to the planning of
the first one, where they basicallythought they were only going to do one
show. We'll give this a tryand see how it goes. And I
think now twenty seven years or somethinglater, Yeah, and they're still doing
it and it's still quality and it'sfun for the performers, it's great for

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the audience. Yeah, and that'llbe coming up. But you know what,
I'm a little embarrassed. Wasn't becauseI missed something this weekend? Why
what a big to do? Abig goings on here in our area.
Well, now I think I've missedout on something. What was it,
Mel you did? Maybe? Ithink I maybe maybe you went? It

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was Scandinavian Days last weekend. Reallyup in Story City. Now I've never
been. I've never gone. Well, shame on you. Yeah, yeah,
and the first time I've missed.And I love the people up in
Story City. They're so nice tome and so welcoming when I when I
go up there, you know,they let me in, They let me
in the front door and Scandinavian Daysis a great celebration, and I don't

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know what. I was so caughtup in things. And I normally and
normally this is kind of the thingthat the bothers me. Normally, the
Scandinavian Committee will get hold of meand we'll do some on air stuff publicizing
Scandinavian Days. Even everybody heads up, hey, yeah, this is what's
going on. Here's what's going on, you know, one of those those
things. And I didn't hear fromthem. And then all of a sudden,

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I was sitting at home and Ilooked at my wife. I said,
I think it was Scandinavian Days thisweekend. And I didn't say a
darn thing about it. And I'membarrassed. So to the folks, to
the Scandinavians or whatever they're um,I'm sorry, I really am, and
I'm embarrassed. But I hope youhad a great celebration. The weather was

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a little warm, but it stillwas good weather to get out there and
celebrate. And I'm sure it wassuccessful. I didn't need my push to
make it successful. Pea never hurts, No, never hurts. But I
mean, I'm I'm not going todestroy it either. By not saying anything,
so well, every bit of help, but I'm sorry. The reason
i'm sorry as I missed it.I didn't get to go up there.
I didn't I didn't even think aboutit. Yeah, so again my apologies

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their story City, because I dothink I did think about you, unfortunately
too late. But yeah, that'salways fun. It's always fun. We
were always in the parade and playedin They used to have it like a
softball tournament. I used to takea team up for that, kind of

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a thrown together team, and wewould play in their softball tournament, which
was always fun because I cheated sobadly I did, I'll admit it.
What I would do is I'll tellyou how I did it, and it's
because you're having fun and it isn'tserious or anything like that, or I
wouldn't have, but but we would. What I would do is, when

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we're up to bat, I wouldput my third base coach out there and
I'd wait a little bit and I'dtell him get on the base, go
stand on the base, don't standin the box, and I would send
out another coach so that when therewas a hit, they would run in
from third base across the plate andthe score keeper, who must not have

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been paying attention either, would markit down. And you know, when
you win a thousand to one,there's something going on out there. But
yeah, that was my little trick. Moved the third base coach on to
third base and then have him runin, make sure he's got a batting
helmet. Hand me. Yes,I'm looking good. But yeah, it
was always fun. I can seeit now now. Was the third base

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coach just putting that helmet on?Oh yeah, it just came off heading
on thee. Yeah, nobody everpaid any attention, so that was fun.
And then in the parade they wereI think they got even with me
one year when they stuck his behindthe giant cow. We were driving our
old grocery gutter station wagon and wehad that giant cow, giant plastic cow

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that was in the very most beenfifteen twenty feet tall, and we were
right behind it night. I wishedI'd known, because I said I would
have gone out and made a bigplastic cow pie to put on the hood
of the car and then complained allthe way through odd what happened here?
But yeah, that was fun andjust the food was great, of course,

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all kinds of skinny a sea woman. I'm trying to think of lefts
and and Wright says and everything thereis there but always fun and great people.
And yeah, I've often said this, and I say it in all
honesty. If I hadn't found Aims, I would have hoped to have found
Story City. I could have easilylived in Story City because of the people

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there. But almost anywhere in centralIowa. I mean Stanhope, I used
to go. If there are veryvery few people think of Stanhope, Well,
it's very very little population now right, Yeah, I mean it was
never a big city, but itwas a fun nice see we go up
there for Watermelon Days and play ina softball tournament and stuff and stay around

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and and have some fun. Thatthat was their big celebration. It probably
still is Watermelon Days Ackley, Iowaand their sour Krout Days. Saurkraut Days
is kind of funny. Is celebratedin more towns in Iowa than I realized.
There's that one. And what's theother town Bagley? Is it Bagley,
Iowa? I think it's down southeasthere or southwest here. I think

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they have sour Krout Days down there. And just any reason to celebrate was
the was the well is the wayit is here in the summertime. And
I always say Scandinavian Days kicks itoff, the big celebrations, and then
I call the culmination Boone's Puffability Days. It's kind of the end of the

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summer celebrations. But every little townhas something they celebrate or some kind of
celebration there and and I like beingin them. You just have a good
time and you get to meet people, and everybody has one thing in common.
Isn't necessarily that you live there,but that you're io ones and you

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celebrate what is significant to your communityand share that with the rest of us.
So I mean community pride, Iguess is what those are. Anyway,
Sorry again, Story City. I'msorry for me, not for you.
I'm the one to mister great celebration. Okay, yeah, you and
I'll go down together. Yeah,down to Des Moines. Okay, let
scoop the loop. Yeah that isthat. That'd be down Grand and kind

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of looping around Locust east on Locust'son Locusts. Took down a second or
sixth up to Grand and go westdown to sixteenth and then head south for
a couple of blocks and then you'reback on the loop going to Locusts.
And I don't know if it's aseffective as when I was a kid.
And I was surprised by the storythis morning where Sergeant Priest was saying,

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yeah, come on down, it'sa summer tradition. I used to do
it, and I'm thinking, God, date, they absolutely encouraged us not
to do it. Don't come down, and your parents would warn you.
I get you scooping the loop,you know, And I would always say,
well, then, what are youdoing down there? You know you're

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going to catch us. We gottabe there, you know, to catch
me. But the police were prettyheavy on the loop, and one of
the reasons was it was a Iguess back then before computers, it was
a local dating site. As youwent through and you were trying to pick

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up chicks or the girls were huntingfor a company that night, and a
lot of open windows and shouting backand forth at the lights and things,
trying to achieve your goal of theevenings. And also it was a bit
of a drag strip um and youwould use the traffic lights down there and

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cars would pull up next to eachother and they'd rib their engines and look
over, give give dirty looks acrossthe way, you know, and then
all of a sudden the light waschange in, you know, to be
a drag down to the next light. Yeah, and you know it was.
It was the best light to pulloff from like that. You mean,

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when you put the you know,the two fingers on the yeah,
on the on the sleeve the upperarm there, and somebody looks over and
they know they know you want toraise Where where was the right intersection to
do? That was the best one. I think the best one was probably
eighth and Grand. Yeah, eighthanGrand was a good It was a longer
stretch. It was like I'm tryingto remember two blocks stretcher, so whereas
the others were only like a block. There were so many traffic lights down

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there. And I was taught bymy daddy how to get the jump,
not that he was drag racing.Yeah. I propped the clutch of course,
you know, and slam through threeon the tree. But but if
you watch the lights back in thosedays, that just before it turned green,
it would blink, just a quickblink the green the green light would

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blink. No, the the otherside. The red light on the other
side blink, and you knew thatwithin a second or so you were going
and that light was going to change. So you kind of get the jump
on on people down there. Yeah, you're taking off. I got I
got good. My wife still says, I drag race. She says,
you know, watching that light,you don't want the guy next to you
get ahead of you. You stillgot it in your blood. But no,

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and when I saw that story,this Sprin said, Boy, had
the times changed? One thing thatno community I've ever lived in has been
able to provide a place for adolescents, for teenagers, etc. To go

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where there hasn't been trouble because,especially in Des Moines, they tried a
couple of clubs down there, andthere was trouble because you had rival schools.
That silly, silly competition between highschools, etc. On the athletic
fields carried over sometimes into these clubsand there'd be fights and there'd be this
going on, or the kids thatwere out gargling beer and coming in to

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convince you they were drunk right wouldcome in and act like asses. So
you just, yeah, you justcouldn't get it together. Well, enough
and I was always sorry for thatbecause I really, I really felt that
adolescence needed a place to go sothey didn't have to be on the streets,
didn't have to cruise the loops.Social clubs, but they have never

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worked out now. They enjoyed somesuccess here for a little while, and
I think they called it Club seven. I'm not quite sure where. There
were several schools involved in putting thistogether, and I had reached what do
you want to call it, atreaty or a truce, and I think

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it was successful for a while,but I don't know what happened to it.
I don't think it's around anymore.Do you do you think there is
a loop in names? I mean, what kind of a loop. It's
kind of a loop, and itinvolves going down Welch Avenue to the North
Okay, and then taking a rightonto Lincoln Way and zipping out of there.

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Yeah, but I don't know wherewhere it loops back. I don't
know where we're the whole thing.Remember familiar that I know that down here
years ago, coming down Main Streetand then going behind the buildings there through
that parking lot was kind of aloop, kind of a loop but I
don't know officially whether it was aloop, but in my eyes there was.

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You'd see the same cars coming throughand hanking and all that stuff.
But I don't know if that's theway it is now or not. And
not being invited, the teenagers seemedto avoid me. I don't know where
they hang out now. I knowthere was a problem for a while up
on Welch having up near the clocktower. They had that little plaza or

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park there on the corner, anda lot of the high school youth were
hanging around up there and scared theparents to death. Because high school and
college, when you get into thoseupper grades and lower grades in college and
the upper grades in high school,not a lot you avoye you can tell
who's who and and how old theyare and things along those lines. So

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yeah, it's I think it's probablystill a problem. I mean, I
don't know. Maybe maybe they goout to Perfect Games. There's I mean,
that's a nice place you go bowling, you could shoot some pool.
I think they still have a lasertag out there or something. But see,
some of those things cost money,and at least when I was growing
up, we didn't have a lotof money. You just know. We
would hang out in the very newby the way McDonald's parking lot on Southwest

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ninth Street in de Moine. Thatwas it was. It was a McDonald's
where there was no inside seating,where you walked up to the window and
ordered your food and then went backto your car. Or Rena's a and
w out on Army Post Road hadthe roller skating servers that would come out
to your car and you'd order througha speaker and then you sit there longer

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than you should be allowed and ruinedarena's business. But but yeah, those
kind of places. But I stillI don't know what we have to offer
adolescence as a as a retreat,so to speak, truth kind of place.
But I can see why nobody putsthem together anymore because they they end

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up with all good intentions to bekind of trouble spots. But anyway,
the loop ladies and gentlemen coming backto the Moine, coming back to the
Moine being encouraged by the police.That's that's what surprised me. I thought
I wouldn't think the police would stillsay, hey, stay off the loop,
stay off the loop. And no, they're saying you know, it's
a tradition. Sergeant Prezick even usedto cruise it. So I don't maybe

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have to go down next weekend.And yeah, take my little convertible down
and take that Mercedes down, makesure the top is down, and roll
along real slow, race for somepinks. Yea, hey, hey,
this is melt. Yeah, what'sup? Wait a minute's old man clipping?
What's he doing down here? Right? And there there you go.
You pop the clutch and uh,I have a clutch in that car.

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No, no, as a clutch, but not controlled by me to put
it that way. Six fifty one. There you go. I've got your
plans for the weekend. Cruise theloop in Des Moines. Well in the
morning a popular song this time ofyear, whereas they bid farewell used to
in college. They used to playthat song over when my freshman years and
things like that, and uh yeahsee you in September. They would be

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crying they're leaving the dorms and thingslike that. And it's a sappy song
as far as I'm concerned. ButI thought i'd throw it and seems appropriate
at this time of year. Yeah. Yeah, with a graduation in high
school has come up and been afew weeks since the university let out.
But yeah, yeah, I've beenthe first week in May. I'm late
with that or not, I don'tknow. I was just telling Scott that

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there used to be we had tohang out down in Polk County. It
was called Banner Pits and it wasa pit. It was a pit.
It was not an official park oranything like that, but a lot of
drinking and carousing used to go ondown there. But every once in a
while, I'm not proud of this, but we'd be sitting there and we'd

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be carousing and things like that,and somebody would pull up in this nice
shiny car and we'd say, where'dyou get that? Bill, where's that?
Where's where'd you get that? Andhe says, oh, I stole
it, And you're there sitting onthe car, go why'd he stole it?
And he brought it down here whatfour and he drove it off into
the water. He just didn't wantthe police to find it or anything,

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so he would just drop that niceshiny new car off into the pits.
And I know years later, asthey were flinging it up to make it
an official part, they found likethree or four cars round on the mill
and a billy was busy. That'sall I was gonna say. Yeah,
six fifty five, mel in themorning, Scott Kovac, he is here
and we're gonna spend a couple morehours with him, if you'll spend him

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with us. On fourteen thirty.Hey, a sigh, mel in the
morning. It's seven fourteen on aMonday. You know it's Monday. You're
feeling it in your bones. Whathappened to that weekend? It went by
fast, it did, didn't it? Yeah? I really did seem to
go. I mean I didn't accomplisha darn thing over the weekend. I
watered the grass, was about it. I didn't do that, yeah,

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Rent, Yeah, well the grassin your living room isn't that high,
right? No? No, no, it is in the yard though,
Oh okay, yeah, okay,they aren't maintaining like well, you know
it's it doesn't bother me a wholelot, but it could be trimmer.
You don't go out and play inthe yard at all? No, not
really did you have when you're akid, But I did it did?
Yeah? I mean in Virginia andI had your kids, that's where they'd
be rent. Yeah, your yardor an next door neighbors yard, our

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yard. Yeah, okay, let'shave a buddy next door. You know,
sometimes you have a kid that isyour friend that lives. Was there
a park nearby or anything. No, we just mainly played in the yard.
Okay. We had empty lot anywherethere was behind us, and it
had a lot of grass. Thisis when, uh why I when I
lived as a kid, yeah,um, up in oh gosh, it

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would have been up in the Panhandleof Idaho. Oh wow, yeah,
up there in Moscow, Idaho.It was a brief hiatus that my dad
took in his career from the Universityof California of Davis and then then went
back there. I went back toDavis, but for a year and a
half we were up in Idaho.Moscow, Idaho. Do you like it?
I did? I mean I wasa kid. I was, you

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know, five six years old,but me and my buddy Stephen, we
would would head out the back backlot. But the back lot was actually
full of grass, tall grass,so it was perfect for kids. Just
Moscow, Idaho. You know.Then it went a very populated town.
If I remember Moscow, yeah,it'd be more tall town. But yeah,
it wasn't back then. Yeah,yeah, I mean it was a

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college channel, just wasn't that wehad when we went. Of course,
when I was very young, welived in Central City, Colorado, and
I don't know if you'd call ita backyard. We lived on the site
of a mountain, and backyard wentstraight up, you know, you at
the back door and you had toclimb into the backyard and basically so yeah,
we didn't do much there. Andbut what we did do his head

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down to the schoolyard, which wasa few blocks away down the mountain and
sat at the base of the roadthat we lived on. So we'd go
down there and play a little bit. But or my cousins and I would
slide down the coal shoots down tomy grandm parents house, which sat at
the bottom of the mountain on themain road that came in. So they

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had like a must have been aone hundred and fifty two hundred yard coal
shoot coming down the mountain. Itwas right, and we came out looking
like minstrels, you know what Imean, We just uh yeah, you
get that coal dust onion stuff.Oh that used to just really irk my
mother. But but you how areyou going to stop us? It's it's

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what we did. Cousins were justas Gilby as I was. Yeah,
but yeah, we didn't we Imean, we did play them what we
called the backyard, but it wasa mountain and don't anything we play.
You couldn't play baseball or anything likethat, not a flat spot. So
we'd play Cowboys and Indians or WorldWar two or something along those lines.

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That's what we played. But yeah, and then when we got down into
back to Des Moines, there wereplenty of you know, there was plenty
of lots where we could go outand make our own little baseball field or
something like that, and we usedto play whiffleball. Do you ever play
whiffleball? I did? Yeah,yeah, I don't know they still make
that the big big red bat andthat huge holy ball and white ball.

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Yeah yeah, I imagine they do. Yeah, but at least I certainly
hope. So otherwise you can alwaysdo the old aluminum bat and and uh
tennis ball routine. Oh tennis ball, there you go, you get to
send that away. I don't thinktennis was invented when I was a kid,
yet, that wasn't Maybe it wasI don't know. We actually used
to go out in the back Mygrandparents lot was pretty big, and we

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would actually use the real baseball inthe bat to the consternation of mister Yakish
next door as he lost probably twoor three garage windows from foul balls.
But yeah, and eventually we wereforbidden Verbolton from playing baseball in the backyard.
Yeah, that's too bad. Itwas, But I don't think there
was anything more fun than a goodsand ball game, because not only did

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you get to play ball, butalso you get to argue who was safe,
no, you were, you know, and then you fight would break
up the game but start smacking eachother. Yeah, and and then there
was always that awkward pick session.We don't get together as a group,
and then a couple of captains wouldstep out and oh, yeah, find

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out where you're going to be picked? How popular are you really were,
or how unskilled your your classmates felt. You were always feeling you know what,
I do want to be the lastright, kind of depressing, but
always felt really good if you werethe first person picks. Oh yeah,
because they're recognizing you had skills.Yeah, you know, those times you

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end up further down the line,yeah, well you didn't even know if
you wanted to play anymore. Ifyou're gonna be that way, maybe I
don't want to play for you.But when you finally got picked, you
gave in said, hey I gotpicked. Yeah where was nobody else?
You idiot? But we all getto play. Yeah, we'll played,
and you love playing and and goodclean fun is what it was. And
we would play for hours, didn'tmatter how hot it was or how sweaty

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we got. And I would justput it this way. Little sisters.
I didn't have one, but littlesisters are the Some of the my friends
would get together and we'd be onthere We're playing more hot, sweaty and
point next thing, you know,eliminate or kool Aid stand would appear with
exorbitant prices. I don't know whatthey were gonna do, you know,
two cents a cup entrepreneurship. Yeah, yeah, and you could see the

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moms laughing as they sent the girlsout to make a little bit of money
there. But yeah, some arefun. What it was. We used
to put on shows too. We'dget into Craig and I'm trying to think
of his bales, Craig Bales restioussoul and his little sister Christie, who
had a crush on me. Ijust wasn't up for four year old love.

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But anyway, she would follow mearound like a puppy. But anyway,
we would set up a show outin the garage. We'd put up
curtains and do acts and things,and then we charge a nickel to come
into the show. And then whatdo you know, next thing, a
kool Aid stand would show up outside. Again, you knows nothing along those

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lines. But anyway, I thinkback on some of those things we did,
and how easily we entertained ourselves whenwe were young, and how more
difficult ers sophisticated we become in whatwe call entertainment as we get older,
you know. But yeah, it'dbe nice to I'd like to see.
I know we're seeing some lemonade standsnow that are coming out in some of

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the neighborhoods. And if you gethis chance, support him, go out
and spend that. I don't knowwhat a glass cost, now they got
that at all. They got thatad on TV where the guys there and
she said, would you like somelemonade? And she gives them a little,
little little glass there and then sheputs her hand out, so that'll
be five dollars please, and yousee his face go into shock. You
know those are shortage on lemon's.Do you know how much she's cuts cost

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nowadays? You know all of thosethings. But did you get a chance
he gives the kids a throw?I know my wife when she was on
the police department, she couldn't passby a lemonade or kool aid stand.
She would just pull over and goup and buy a cup, which I
think is cool. I like it. I like the entrepreneurship. And again,

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if you're out and about, tomake sure you're in a safe spot.
Obviously there's some places where you can'tpull in that much, but but
they'll be out there. I cannever know. Those lemonade stands may pull
one on you in there. Scottand I were thinking about, you know,
making our own lemonade stands right yeah, on Main Street. I think
you think it'll go, you know, I I don't know really, We'll

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probably depend on time year. Rightnow it's summer though, or late spring
getting hot. It's getting hot.It's you know, I think we could
I think we could make some makesome baked go of it. Yeah,
I think so all right, we'llgive that some thought. Don't you give
it some thought because it probably isn'tgoing to happen. Mail in the morning
of fourteen thirty, kass I,it is seven forty nine. Let's get

(30:23):
with our lead librarian, Sheila Chauffeurand Sheila, good morning. How are
you good morning? Mail? Yeah, how's everything going? It's going good.
UM. June first was a rainyday and aims and everyone came to
the library. So people are excitedto pick up their summer reading logs.

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And we've had a lot of peoplethis great program. Yeah, yeah,
So summer's here and we can seeit by people coming out for programs and
to join the summer reading program.And today we kick off the summer meals.
Tell us a little bit about that. So that is UM. We

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do it every day Monday through Friday. UM. You can come in,
UH children of all ages, UMcan come in and get a free meal.
We partner with UH the schools UMto get those. We used to
be part of a USDA program,but we UM, we can't do it.

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We don't do a formal program,but we run it the same way
as we always did. And it'sit's in response to you know, we
saw how many people what a whata hub we were for activities anyway,
and how we know that when schoolsnot in session, um, that so
many kids um lose that access tothat reliable meal. And if this is

(31:56):
a way to kind of you know, hungry minds, hungry bodies, we
can we can help with both.Yeah, and I and and I love
it because I'm one of those kids. I mean when I was growing up,
Mom went to work, Dad wentto work. There's a little bit
of peanut butter and jelly there.But you know that was up to us
if we felt like fixed air.We're too busy playing to do anything like

(32:19):
that. But we know nutrition isso important to these kids welfare. Yeah,
and then we we um, youknow, have the programs on either
end, you know, so youcould come to a story time and then
stay for lunch, or you can, um, you know, there's other
our special programs are happening to youknow, have a big terific Tuesday lineup,
that's the special programs, like amagician or someone with reptile all kinds

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of fun things lined up for thesummer. So just you can kind of
just have an enriching day of it, you know. Yeah. Um,
and we have hungry teams too,so uh, you can take advantage of
it. About you can feed yourbelly and feed your mind at the same
time, same way. Oh exactly, yeah, and it's uh, it's

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interesting. She I was going toask you this just kind of an all
beat question. But are you findingI'm a guy who likes to have a
book in my hand. I justalways will, That's the way I was
raised. I love the smell ofbooks. I love libraries. You know,
I go in and inhale and whodo me for a couple of days.
But along those lines, are peoplegoing more to these online services?

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Are you finding any drop in participation? You know, our print circulation is
still really strong, but of coursethe digital downloadable audio and reading ebooks has
increased because it's new, so it'sonly going to keep increasing. Um,
you know, there will be someWe'll watch to see if there's a shift.

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Right now, our print circulation isstill stronger and we're able to collect
more that way. You know,there's just more is available in print.
There's still it's still meets the needsof a lot of people. So right
now our print circulation is stronger,but the other is still growing, so
and I think it meets both needs. You know, sometimes you want that
audio book for when you're, youknow, doing a task or running around.

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I read. I listened to alot of audiobooks and I read a
print book, and your experience isdifferent, Like I won't listen to fiction
usually, I will read fiction ratherthan listen to it. And I felt
more centered and like, like Iwas more into the book itself, because

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I think we can train our brainsto try to multitask while we're listening,
and that can get away from youa little bit. But I like both.
I enjoy both, and I geta lot out of the audiobooks I
listened to. So yeah, Ithink every reader's book, every book is
reader and I guess we'll add fourman into that too, Yeah, I

(35:00):
was. I just think it's strangeat our house, or it feels strange
to me, because my wife isan avid reader and I am too,
And at nights it's not unusual.I mean, the television is never on.
We've got she's into her phone orher what else would it be kindle
or something like that, and shegets her books that way and I'm just

(35:23):
sitting there with my good old hardcorebook there and in reading a way.
But I look over and I'm going, I remember when she'd have a book
in her hand too, you know, Oh, don't judge, you know,
you're still absorbed the same way.I think audio is a slightly different
experience for me. Yeah, butI think if I'm reading, I'm reading.

(35:45):
Yeah, and that's what I haveto justify my mind. She's still
reading. She just didn't have abook. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and it'd meat it's the same contentof the book. Yeah, I got
to get with the times, kid, try it out. It's easy.
I've got a kindle, but Idon't. I don't ever use it.

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Yeah, we can help to youknow, some of those people need help
getting set up and stuff like that, and so we have we have some
good instructions on our website. Butwe also if you stop by um you
know our adult services staff can theyhelp people all the time either get used
to the app if you're you know, using libby UM or how to you
know, pull it up on yourdevice. So they help people all the

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time. And it's it can seemintimidating right at first, but it is
not. You can you can lookit up easily. Yeah, you're a
goa turder. You got an oldgoat like me. You can teach.
So there you go. But whenare answer me this? Somebody asked me
this the other day. Is ourlibrary fine? Free? Now it is?
Okay? I thought so, Itold him, I yes, I

(36:49):
believe they dropped that a couple ofyears ago. We did. We did?
You know you'd still you do payif you lost an item or really
long overdue and goes to you know, like build as though it was lost.
But we have a lot of peopleto find them and we you know,
it's working out really well for us. You don't. We helped remove
some barriers. You know, peoplecan't um they're a little embarrassed, or

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they can go for a long timelike I lost that book. I'm so
ashamed. I just can't go back, or I don't want to talk to
anyone about it. But really,I'll tell you always we help resolve so
many things. It's never as badas you think. So have you converted
the library jail? We got thiswhole new space and where you used to

(37:34):
put people in jail. Yeah,now we gotta no kelistics or anything,
Just be honest and come up andthey'll work with you. That's the thing.
Things happen and when they do solvethem. That's the best way to
go. So many, so manysummer programs going on as always, so
many special programs coming into the facilities. They're a very very busy place.

(37:58):
In fact, I'm not sure,and you me again because I anticipate you
will, but um that that libraryis almost as busy, if not busier,
in the summertime than it is duringthe winter. It is, it
is, um, you know,And I have to look at our our
your account is pretty consistent. Ithink the use how it is used is

(38:19):
different because like for everyone who goeson vacation or isn't it con is it
in its consistently you know, there'sa lot of families who use it,
which we're thrilled about. In alot of adults. You know, you
need a cool place to be tojust kind of chill and read a magazine
or go on the computer. Youknow, that's a nice it's a nice
inviting space to be and there's youknow, there's other people using it.

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You know, there's a chance tobump into someone or just kind of feel
like you're part of a community.It's it's nice that are definitely our children's
area is bust going. Oh yeah, there's no doubt. Our home list
was really high the other day.I think that was kind of a combination
of um having Monday holiday. Youknow what a difference one day makes,
But it was like three times atusual links. I don't know if it's

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like people gearing up for their summerreads or kind of missing a day to
pull the hold, but it wasway longer, I think. So I
have to run here. Sheila back, Okay, have a wonderful day and
we'll talk to you again soon.Thank you, Bye bye bye. Mail.
In the morning, I'm fourteen thirtykas excuse me, time to get
with Alex from the Aames History Museum. Good morning, Alex, how are

(39:30):
you? Good morning Mail. I'mdoing well. Good things dam busy this
summer. Oh you know, weare having on one of those unprecedented summers
internally because of our building expansion project. We are. I'm actually probably about
twenty minutes you're going to be startingto pack up some archival shelving and stuff

(39:51):
to pack up our museum for thefuture expansion and construction. Here at the
museum. I thought you were gonnatell me you had to pick up a
power saw or something aaron and startworking. But I did have to remember
to grab mine before I left hometo bring in so I could get a
few few by fours. But that'llbe a little later today, I think,
Yeah, well that day is thatmonumental job too. We talk about

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we're all excited about the future expansion, but in while you're expanding, you
have to find places to put thingsuntil it's done. Definitely, Yeah,
we're gonna be moving into some temporaryspace away from our fifth in Douglas Corner
here and getting every one of ourarchival boxes and artifacts all safely tucked away

(40:34):
for the for a year until wecan bring it all back and put it
into our new h even better AimsHistory Museum. Now. Will the museum
itself be closed during this time,Yes, Unfortunately, we won't be open
for like coming into brows displays likethat's one of our big things we do
here in our in our physical buildingfor people to come visit and look arounds

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up. Sure, we are gonnabe ginning the exhibits up in the community
being at Farmer's Markets, so We'renot going away completely, but we just
won't have that physical place to cometo for the next year. We will,
of course still be helping people withresearch requests as best as we're able
to. Luckily, me and myco workers and volunteers has spent the better

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part of the last ten years digitizinga lot of our phone books, yearbooks,
stuff like that. So even thoughsometimes our one copy might be packed
away in a box right now,that might not be I might not be
able to get too too handily,we have a digital copy online that we
can share with people, so evenif you're not in the Ames area,
you can have fun browsing a lotof our reference collection and stuff like that.

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I keep wanting to say, abigger and better museum, but I'm
gonna tell you what. I'm notgoing to use the better because I think
you guys have done a terrific joband there are not many ways you can
improve over what you've done so farexcept to make it a bigger place to
visit. Exactly. Yeah. Ialways like to say as much as we
could with our building for so manyyears, and but we just simply outgrew

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it. We never had enough displayspace. Um definitely never enough office space.
I'll say that we were packed likesardines here before COVID we expanded to
take over a little more space inour buildings. So there's you know,
that's the thing with museums. Younever have less stuff. Yeah, so
you need a bigger building and youlearn to sit on laps exactly. I

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was gonna say, even though themuseum itself will not be physically available,
one attraction, summer attraction, Ithink is just absolutely marvelous and I think
you probably know I'm gonna say HoggittSchool. Yes, yes, Hoggett School,
our Ines's first school house, oureighteen sixties school house up a maker.
Yeah. This just last Yesterday wasopening weekend for Hoggett. So we

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had our big opening ice cream,social and stuff. But we're gonna have
some other fun programmings like broommaking flagis Uh schoolyard games for eighteen sixties.
I know we're not that old,but I think we played a few of
the same ones like tag and leapFrog and stuff like that. Did you
did you hit chase the hoop?Did you stick the hoop? Uh?

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That was one that was kind ofpop if you could afford to bring a
hoop over to the prairie. Nota priority. Maybe in the wagon,
but you know it's like that cartrip. You gotta bring that one kid's
toy with you, right, comeentertain Yeah yeah. Sound Sundays at Hoggan
is two to four every Sunday duringthe summer the July we do programming out

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there, so um, you know, usually you could always kind of get
into the schoolhouse, you know,play with the chalkboards with the historical information,
but then we try to put afun program attached there every week,
so it's something a little bit different. So even if you have been to
Hugged's School on Sydney inside, maybeyou want to come and see how butter

(43:58):
is made and come bring the kidsor grandkids and they can you know,
make their own little chunk of butterto take home with them and try and
bread. So as something fun atHogst I just having gone to a My
school was not exactly a one roomschoolhouse when I was younger, but we
had four classes in one room,which was kind of like it oh wow
yeah yeah. Kindergarten through fourth gradewas in one class, and I always

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enjoyed it because it's presented challenges forme. But if your kids complaining about
school or something, to take themto Hoggitt, let them see what it
would used to be like and knowhow good they really have it exactly,
especially if we get some hot daystowards the end here and there's no ac
at Hoggitt. But we try toget the windows open and get some tents
out there. So if it isa warm day, do we still do

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try to have tents and water andeverything out there help keep people cool.
Yeah, experience the real life though, you know, get out there,
sweat it out kids, you knowexactly. It's like the old Hoggitt kids
would have had too. I'm justso glad we've been able to preserve that
and maintain and give everybody a tasteof the past. And I think it

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makes us really appreciate where we are. Definitely, it kind of really shows
things beginning roots. I know,I've been to quite a few one room
school museums. You know, StoryCity has some, there's a couple in
the county, and you know,all over the United States. Yeah,
but Hogge, I feel like isreally unique for how small it is and
how early of a school it is. A lot of the one room schoolhouses
that have been turned into museums areare ones that come from more around nineteen

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hundred or that kind of era.Sometimes there maybe the last or the second
last wood building school before they moveto a big brick consolidated rural school.
So Hogg, it's really rare forhow really how tiny it is. It's
not your typical you know, somethingyou'd see on a little house in the
prairie, kind of set in yourimagination kind of a thing. Yeah,

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so it's kind of a treat tosee something a little bit different in the
school museum around. I always thinkof it this way. The kids go
ahead and oh we got new laptops, got new computers, and the kids
at Hoggin, oh we got ablackboard day. Yeah bang e racer time,
you know, one of those things. So yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I know that. Now you guysaren't just Theame's history museum. You
also have your fingers in some ofthe other events here in the community,
uh, you know, in helpingsponsor some great events. Oh yeah,
we always trying to participate in allof the main street events. Like just
last week we had art Walk andyeah, music Walk was just a few

(46:35):
months back, so we're we're gonnabe going to Farmers Market this Saturday too,
so check us out there. Sowe're we're still trying to get our
nose out there. Make sure peopleknow we haven't. We haven't gone away
for good. We're just taking sometime to build up better. Well,
I can tell you this much.We're gonna be anxious. We're gonna be
anxious that no more anxious than youand the crew down there Yestory Museum,

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to get this expansion done and getreopened. But until then, be patient,
real ice there or other opportunities,and if you have questions, you
can still give mccollins see what theycan do for you exactly, and be
sure to We're gonna have a groundbreakingceremony June seventeenth, that's a week from
this coming Saturday. Okay, inour back, in our back parking lot.
We're gonna have ice cream. Sothat's a good enough excuse. Oh

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that'll come out for that. Yeah, they'll be there. It'll be picket
fence, it'll be the good stufftoo. Um, so come out.
Well, we'll get place started ateleven for ice cream, eleven thirty.
We're gonna have a little ceremony forthe dedication, you know, for the
groundbreaking. Yeah, there'll be servingice cream till one, and there's lots
of other fun stuff. You cango learn some Aimes history and go down
to um the on Saturday. They'realso doing the airport, uh yeah,

(47:47):
or Herman Banning um will be earlierat tens. You go to out of
ten, come to our thing ateleven thirty and then I believe that noon
they're doing a Herman Banning play abouthis life at the band show. So
pretty can you come down to us? And what a day that? Yeah?
Quite an eventful day, have you. There's a lot going on.
Have you found some ground to break? We we will find a little bit

(48:09):
back there. There's a lot ofcement here in downtown, a little dirt,
but we'll find a little patch,will all right? My friend,
thank you so much for giving mea shout out here, and we'll talk
to you in a few weeks.Thank you, mal appreciate it. You
have a wonderful day you too.Bye bye. That's Alex. With the
Aames History Museum and lots of thingsgoing on down there, We're going to

(48:30):
be closed for a little while,but still offering services. If you just
give them a call, you canstill find out what they can do for
you. Mel in the morning,he's got Kovac here on fourteen thirty k
A s I and I will hitthere's they've got a new It's it's not

(48:51):
bowtx. Let me put it thisway. It's not bowtox, but it
and it has nothing to do withwrinkles or crenkles. It's for your trapezoids.
Trapezoids. Yeah, you know wherethose are? You mean the traps,
I think because the trapezoid is geometric, right, yeah, well yeah,

(49:13):
trapezoids geometry, but on your body, it's like up in here.
I'm showing them up around my shouldersand the back and things like that.
But uh, people are going forthat that wouldn't maybe trapezius. Maybe maybe
I haven't got it right. TrapeziusAnd I think that's when he swings through
the air. Yes, trapeze.Yeah, yeah, you're anyway, they're

(49:37):
doing what they're calling traptals. Yeah, yeah, that's becoming popular now.
It's a botox which is injected inthe trapezius muscle or as you refer to,
the traps, and it helps withmovement and stability of the shoulder blades
and neck. And I guess youlook better too. I don't know how

(50:00):
they look or whatever, but italso helps you with good posture. So
what they're finding out, no matterhow much they iron their face or I
mean take the wrinkles out of it, that if you don't have a good
posture, it doesn't help you much. Well. And it's those muscles in
the neck too. Yeah, youknow, it's sort of a vanity thing.
You have one of those things thatyou know, a weightlift or a

(50:22):
bodybuilder, right, you know,look it seems like they have a very
short neck. It's because they've builtup those trapezist muscles. Yeah, yeah,
or no neck or no neck whatsoever. Yeah. But my thing is
along these lines. I don't know. I have and for better or worse,
kind of let myself be natural withmy whole life. I mean I

(50:45):
haven't. I've never been until Iwas very very young, when I was
doing sports, etc. I workedout a lot more and was forced to
work out a lot more. Butonce I got through that era of my
life, I was not very agood custodian of my body, so to
speak. I got fat and slobby, and you know, and I've maintained

(51:07):
that kind of physicality. I'm I'mnot taught and tight. I'm rubbery.
I'm kind of like the old michelinman. But but never you never wanted
to fake anything, kind of likePopeye said, I am what I am,

(51:32):
you know, and I although Idon't think that's always necessarily good,
I don't want people to know.I think keeping yourself fit and in shape
makes for a better life as youget older. But I've never wanted to
inject anything, you know, neverconsidered steroids or anything that would be artificially
put in me to you know,en hands or make me physically martin.

(51:59):
Maybe I should have considered it,but I didn't. You know, I'm
kind of It's like I used totell my mama, I said, when
she would dye her hair all thetime. I say, let it go,
let it go, be your age, let your age dictate itself.
Not that I don't believe there arethings out there that can help you with
mobility, etc. By doing something. I think you should always work out

(52:21):
in some way, but to beinjected with things that, no, I
don't like fake. I like peoplebeing real, but some people cannot handle
getting older. I've always considered,you know, baldness, great hair would

(52:42):
be nice to and things like thata sign of age, as a badge
of honor that I have made itthis far, and every day that you
are alive is an accomplishment as faras I'm concerned, and how you live
that day. But yeah, no, don't think botox with me. No,

(53:05):
I'll be that rubbery old nichelin manfor the rest of my life.
I guess I do want to workout more. I've had to kind of
pledge that, and I've been toldby my doctors I need to get more
physical exercise. I'm not against thatat all. I'm just saying I never
did it enough to keep myself inbetter shape, and I'm paying the price
right now, paying the price insome ways out there, I'm not as

(53:25):
mobile as I should be or flexibleas I should be. I want to
get down on the floor and playwith my grandson run. I'd like it's
a big new fire engine. Iwant to play with that. He's not
going to get to play with it. It's mine, mine, mine,
which is a favorite favorite word.It is now mine mine. But I
can't get back up, you know, I can't get back up and I

(53:50):
know it's harder as we get older, but I'm not of the notion if
I've fallen and I can't get up. But I understand that phrase. I
used to make fun of it,I'll be honest. I used to say,
oh what they can't get up?What's wrong with those people? And
now I know that physically we changeand some things are not as easy as

(54:10):
they were when we were younger.So I don't know. Maybe I should
get some traptalks. Way you thinkI come in here and I might look
like Arnold Schwarzner. Well, Arnold'snot looking that good anymore. If you
noticed, he's still he's He's areal tough guy. He's still got a
lot of authority in his voice.And it's kind of funny there. He
comes across powerful regardless of age.Yeah, yeah, I always liked him.

(54:34):
I mean he was interesting and himand Sylvester Stallone. I see they
have a new reality show on withSylvester Stallone and family. I'm not sure
how that's going to come out.But it's hard to accept those guys who
are looking older now, and theyare, yeah, but they're older in

(54:54):
a good way. I what's themovie series they did the Dispensables or something
like that where they had Arnold Schwarzeneggerand and Sylvester Stallone and several of the
old power guys were on that.And we're here as a big tough mercenary

(55:15):
group out there and I'm going,oh, really, liahs. But did
enjoy those. But yeah, soif you're interested in it, again,
it's trap talks, not trap talks. It's trap talks. This day in
history is another one of those regrettabledays. I have to tell you.
This was the day in which RobertKennedy was assassinated by Sir Hound, Sir

(55:37):
Hunt. And he was still injail, isn't he, Sir Hunt.
Yeah, yeah, there's been talkabout paroleum, but I don't see it.
That was Yeah, if you wereKennedy, you didn't want to go
into politics. Basically there was acurse or something they felt on there,
and not just through assassination, butRobert Kennedy assassinated. Robert Kennedy Junior was

(56:05):
ned. Who was in the planecrash out in the sea or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, it might havebeen him, him and his wife.
Yeah, Jack Kennedy obviously assassinated.Now there's a new Kennedy wanting to run
for the Republican office. Um president, we'll see what or no, wait,
it's democratic democratic office. Yeah,and of course Ted Kennedy and Chap

(56:28):
Aquittic was very controversial, very controversial. But anyway, and talking about people
being crassed though I remember I can'tremember the young lady's name who drowned in
that incident, and the controversy hadsurrounded it, but some people out there

(56:51):
thought Volkswagen should put out an adso and so whatever her name was,
would still be alive. If ifKennedy had driven of all swagon because they
float better, I think that wouldbe im poor taste. It would be
nothing, nothing. It was impoortaste. But people will do it.

(57:12):
It's one of those things. Tooearly, you know, that old thing.
Too early to talk about that,too early to deal with that.
Yeah, it's like the soccer team, the Chicago Fire. Yeah too soon.
Oh my. Yeah. It's NationalHot Air Balloon Day. Have you
ever flown in a Hunter? Ihave none? Have you? Yes?
Several times? It was fun.It was fun, except they didn't tell

(57:37):
me. First time I went up, I was standing over under this thing
and they would fire up the balloon, take it a little bit high or
something like that, and steam ourhumidity would come off and it would fall
on my bald head and it hurtnow. And they said, oh,
you shouldn't stand there. Fine,if I got hit about three times,
then they go, yeah, youshouldn't stand there. And these were wonderful

(57:58):
guys. And it was a competitionput on by the Boys and Girls Club
here in town, and they wouldfly in the field off back of there.
They would put the balloons out thereand fly them. So I rode
in the competition on Saturday morning withthem. And then when we got done
them, we landed. We landedout where Pizza Ranches now before it was

(58:19):
built. And the guys said,well, now you're an official hot air
balloonist and you have to go throughour initiation. And I said what yeah,
get down on your knees there outthere, and they circled me right,
and I don't mean to be toocrash, but they acted like they
were on zipping their flies. Ohyeah, I adn't gonna ur an eight

(58:43):
on me. No, no,no, they didn't. They dumped some
water on me. But it wasfun. We had a great time.
And then I went again a coupleday years later, one or two years,
and that was not as pleasant anexperience we'd flown. It was pleasant
when we were up flying, butand we flew over a part of northern

(59:06):
Names up there, and we actuallyscared about ten or twelfth deer out of
the trees out there. But thatsound that the balloon made and you see
all these deer running out the treesare just cool. I like that.
But then we went for the landingand she we had a she captain on
the balloon and was looking for aspot for us to land and decided she

(59:29):
was going to land on this dirtroadway just north of town. And the
next thing I know, we're tryingto land, but we bounce and and
then we're headed toward a barbed wirefence with the basket. Yeah yikes,
And we hit the fence and itflipped over and I flipped out, and
you know, it was not quitea soft landing, but non diminished.

(59:50):
I thought, you know what Ithought, I thought, I want one
of these. I want a hotair balloon. This looks like a lot
of fun. And my wife Chris, served on a hot air balloon crew
during Indianola balloon days down in uhwell, obviously Indianola, the National Balloon
Hot Air Balloon races. She servedon a crew down there, and she
she loved they would chase the balloonand try and figure out where it's going

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to land and do all that stuff. And she kind of enjoyed it.
But she I don't know why youcan't have a motorcycle, you can't have
a hot air balloon. Now Iget caught up in these. There's so
much fun this job over the years, and when I say I'll sadly miss
I will miss it like I can'teven tell you. But the opportunity to

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fly on a biplane here when theybrought the biplanes in a few years back,
and I got to right in theback of one of those, and
they gave me the leather helmet towear and all that stuff, and and
I thought, gosh, these seemsso simple. I think I want to
get a biplane now I want tobe couldn't afford it. I still need

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a pilot's license, but got towrite him one and not many people get
to so that was fun, butit did. It made you want to
because they were so simple, atleast in my mind. They were simple
to fly. They weren't as involvedwith the gauges and things and things that

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you think about when you're in aregular plane. And they had the stick
that they would fly with. Andit looks simplistic, but I'm sure it
was more complicated than I perceived itto be. Looking more like a flight
of art than science. Yeah,like a glider almost yeah, yeah,
and navigating those guys, but theywere It was interesting and I always want

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to take a glider ride. Ialways thought a glider would be fun.
And we do get them up overhims. Have you seen the gliders up
over hims? But I from timeto time, Yeah, if the weather
conditions are right. And I'm justamazed at how long they can stay airborne,
you know, gliding on the updrafts and everything, and know that
business is certain science to it.And what else would I thought? I

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thought, Um, flying's always appealedto me. I used to have dreams,
you know, Superman dreams and thingsI could fly without anything there or
these light what they call them lightflight or small um they're smaller um single
person um. There aren't planes.They're more like a kite. Uh,

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And it's not light flight I can'tremember what like a prompt planes of what
they used to call they have inthe back of it U oh okay,
yeah, and I don't know theexact word for it, but that always
looked like it would be fun orsomething and maybe a little bit cheaper than
an airplane. Um, but you'reout there, you're flying one of those.

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Uh. I don't know. Maybemaybe I'll pick up a hobby when
I when I retire, maybe I'lllook into life flights or not life light,
but whatever it is, light weight, bear it out and see what
that would be like. But I'vealways thought, you know, I was,
I'm a big jet pack guy.I'd like to think that we were

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by the time I reached the stageat jet Packs, people would have jet
packs and commute. You can needto tell what a mess that would be.
Do you think we're backing cars?Can you imagine if we're flying around
trying to get to work or well, what would you have thought in meloth
if you saw the Jetsons? Howfar out? If you watched that original

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show, yeah, as it wasairing, When do you think we'd have
flying cars? If you were whatdo you recall? I thought it would
be a while, one hundred years, one hundred years. Yeah, my
wife Chris wants one of those cars, and she is very disappointed we haven't
gotten one yet. But you know, along those lines, we don't have
those kinds of cars, but thethings. Another device that always enters listed

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me was hovercraft. And we dohave hovercraft, not developed to the point
where you could use it for acommuter or anything, but you can go
some places with those things you couldn'tgo with a regular car. So yeah,
I thought maybe they would develop thehovercraft a little bit more too.
But oh, we have drones.I'm surprised we don't have more people hopping

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up on those and going for arun. Yeah, and I don't know.
Can they carry a man? Oh, you make one large enough?
Sure, I don't know. Idon't know. Drones are neat And I
thought I wanted to buy a droneand fly it with a camera and so
I could see what it was doingand be like flying a plane except here

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on the ground. But dog gnmy ability to control something like that if
anything would happen to it. Ihad a friend out in Boston who got
a drunk and had the camera onit. Emil Peterson I call him my
East Coast for use or a goodfriend for many many years lived here.
Names him and his lovely wife Nikki. And he bought a drone out there

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and he showed it, flying it, and he flew it into a tree,
and then he couldn't get it down, he couldn't get it out.
So and you know, it's likefour or five hundred little drone, and
I'm going, no, no,I don't mind losing a fifty cent kite,
but you know, four or fivehundred dollars drone, I'd have a

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tency to cry a little bit.I think