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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to another episode of I Tell You What. Here
we are twenty four years later nine to eleven and
some very heavy news yesterday with the shooting of Charlie
Kirk on a campus in Utah and another school shooting
in Colorado. Everything gets a little reflective today, and also
you try to look forward today and you try to
process a lot of things. It's been twenty four years
since nine to eleven, and you kind of go like,
(00:21):
where are we at after that? Seemed like, I mean,
we were brutally attacked twenty four years ago from Afar,
and it just seems like since then we have been
brutally attacked from within. Yeah, you know, and social media
has got a lot to do with it. I don't.
You can't blame it entirely on that, but that's where
(00:41):
people take their causes and take everything. I mean, just
looking at everything, looking at Minneapolis in twenty twenty, Annunciation
School two weeks ago, yesterday, Charlie Kirk yesterday. And I'm
not here to take any direction of Charlie. I know
that he was a for a lot of people, very
polarizing and I'm not going to go down any road
with it whatsoever. It's just the fact of what happened.
(01:02):
I mean, it seemed to be very very calculated and
orchestrated and I hate to say use this word in
any tournament, well designed what they wanted to do yesterday,
whoever this person is knew what they were doing and
from far away and to the point where you can't
we don't know where this person is right now. And
you go back twenty four years and after twenty four
(01:22):
years ago, after we were attacked and the Twin Towers
and the Pentagon and you know, the field in Pennsylvania
and everything of the planes, and it just makes you
wonder how far have we come? Have we taken steps backwards?
We all kind of got on the same page twenty
four years ago. Yep, people remember that Congress was singing
(01:42):
on the steps of the Capitol like God bless America.
And today you can't get those people together to save
your life. Nope. Yesterday they even tried to do a
prayer on the floor of was it the Senate or Congress? Yeah,
but I mean that just wasn't a good idea either.
I mean, it's just that's where we're at, and it's
human lives, man, So we don't appear to be looking
(02:05):
out for each other as well as we did that
one thing about after being attacked on September eleventh, we
don't seem to really as a society. We're like some
one size is trying to look out for itself and
the other side's trying to look out for itself, and
they do that by attacking each other.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Very very polarizing, and it's just really hard because with
things like social media, people put themselves in these little
echo chambers where they're posting online and they're reading things
online that get them so whipped up and agitated, regardless
of what side you're on, and it makes them just
feel like they're so justified. If you're someone who has
(02:40):
tendencies to have crazy thoughts like going and hurting someone
for their beliefs, which is a crazy thought to do that, absolutely,
like that is so wrong. And so if you're in that,
if you're already someone who's predisposed to having those kind
of thoughts and then you're in this echo chamber, you're like,
everyone agrees this person deserves to be hurt, and nobody
(03:00):
deserves to be hurt for speaking up on what they
believe in, especially not in America. That is what America
is built on is free Yeah, the freedoms. And so
the fact that you have these little echo chambers that
people put themselves in, they feel so justified in doing
these terrible things sometimes and even more so than they
would just on their own. And it's awful. And I
(03:24):
that is something that I think is incredibly difficult to overcome.
I don't know how you do it. I think it's
it's We've talked about this before with previous incidents. I
think that it's a mental health issue more than anything.
And that is a really, really tough thing to tackle.
And that's why you see people focus on other things
because they might be easier to tackle. But the reality is,
(03:45):
if people want to hurt people, they're going to find
a way to do it. And it really is just
terrible because how do you stop it, Like you can't
go outside and that's the only even then. I mean,
if someone wants to hurt you, they're going to find
a way to do it. And it's a scary world
that we're.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Thinking about everything that we do. Yep, yes, and that
this platform and you know, as small as it is
compared to you know, other platforms, those of people in politics,
those of our senators and congressmen. And I mean look
at the you know, the families here in Minnesota in
politics two months ago. You know a friend of mine
(04:22):
and her husband shot. I mean, it's just the dialogue
seems to just be so inflamed and then it goes
to that next level of hatred and then it goes
beyond hatred into murder. Yeah, and that line seems to
be getting so much thinner, or it seems to. There
seems to be at least enough sense of a brick
wall where people can yell and scream at each other
(04:42):
and get fired up, but then it just goes next level.
It's awful. I mean, so are where are we twenty
four years later? I mean, I don't be better? Are
we worse? I don't know. I mean just appear there
were with each other. It doesn't appear to be any better. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
A couple of days after nine to eleven, the unity
that we as Americans had like that was that was awesome.
I felt like everybody we were on one team. We
weren't divided like we are now. Because it's kind of
scary that you can't have your opinion now without thinking Oh,
my life's going to be in danger. Yeah, because there's
a husband that's never coming home, there's a dad that's
(05:15):
never coming home. Or your kids in school, yes, or
your kids in school, like yesterday there was also in
Denver there was another.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
School, yeah, Evergreen High School. It's like, all of this
is just making the world a more and more scary place.
And it's just really really tough, whether it's yeah, kids
going to school or yes, people speaking up on what
they believe in. Because you should, no matter what your
beliefs are, I don't care what they are, you should
be able to feel comfortable going out and saying them
(05:43):
and talking about Right.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, you and I can have our differences, but we're
civilized exactly. Hey, you like one thing, I like one thing,
you know what, but at the end of the day
that we're Americans, we're human.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
The whole point that they're trying to do, obviously, is
science is silence a group of people. Right, so they
feel that they have silenced whatever, you know, Charlie Kirk represented,
and people look at that subjectively. I guess, you know,
some people, you know, they use strong terms for it.
Other people call it a you know, a Christian lifestyle.
(06:13):
Some call it, you have others calling it. He was
using terms like a Nazi and that kind of stuff.
I mean, it's just gotten. The vitriol is just so
inflamed and awful. But when it comes to something like
this and that's school shooting yesterday outside of or in
Colorado was absolutely, I mean a parent's worst nightmare. And
you know, and like what I watched yesterday with the
(06:34):
Charlie Kirk shooting is you know, here's a bullet flying
over these people's heads and you know, my kids, my
kids go to college. And I was just thinking that
affects everybody. I mean, that's changed everyone's life over there,
and the people they had to see that graphic video
that I wanted to get through the day not to watch,
and it's snuck up on me on my timeline and
all of a sudden, there it was, and I thought,
(06:55):
I'm like, is that AI? I literally thought that's got
to be a I tell me, please God, that's AI.
And then I heard more commentary later and I'm like, okay,
all of them, I'm not even gonna want to talk
about it any further.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
No, that's okay. All of the technology and the power
that the algorithm has. And somehow that video is still
circulating and it's still getting reposted and shared and it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
What's that up life? But it's just it's people looking
for clicks. But I mean some people, they're just regular
normal people from wherever in Minnesota or Iowa or whatever,
and they've got you know, one hundred friends and they're
not even influencers. Really, they're just hearing. I mean, I
(07:41):
just don't get the mindset of wanting to show that
to Pat don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I don't get it. And you can't even go on
any social media platform right now without potentially seeing it.
And it doesn't matter what your algorithm normally is, whether
it's normally politics or not. And it makes me sick
to my stomach because all I can think about is
the fact that that it's a dad, he has a wife,
he has two kids, two little kids, and it just
(08:06):
is really I mean, all day yesterday, I just felt
so impacted by both the school shooting yesterday and that
we've had recently, but then also just with Charlie and
I'm like in his family, and I just it's really
tough so many to.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
People they get on and It's like they were saying
things yesterday about Charlie and then they were there being
sympathetic towards Charlie and his family and everything, and then
all of a sudden, there was this meme that they
posted however or no, but yeah, you don't put a
(08:43):
butt on that. You don't. You just don't. You just
that is just not something that you do, you know,
it's it's the man just lost his life. Yeah, because
the butt then turns into a justification from murder, because
literally that's what it is, and they think that's not
it though, that's not justifying it what you are. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Even worse is when you see people, especially on Twitter
x whatever, when they're saying things that are so awful
and they're like celebrating, And I'm how can anyone, anyone,
I don't care what you believe in, celebrate another human
being hurt that way and his family losing him in
(09:23):
that way. I just can't wrap my head around the
mindset at all.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
No. It's hey, d drop it on talkback if you
have any comments. Love to take him on talkback on
the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to cable too. It's good
to have that app. On anyway, I think we may
be on backup now, which means backup transmitter. If you
listen to conventional radio, the APP is something that that
signal never really goes away. Love to hear your thoughts
on talkback. Here's one.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
You're right, Chris. Twenty four years ago we were attacked
from a foreign land and now it's within the it's
gotten worse. We need God, we need prayer, we need
to come together again. It's just too much evil, too
(10:09):
much hatred. It's horrible.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, I would agree with that. I know not everyone
would agree with that, but one thing I think we
all need to get on the same page. And I
do agree with that person. I mean, I do believe
in God, and I'm not going to stop saying that
despite what happened yesterday. I believe in Jesus. I believe
in God. And however, no matter what you believe in,
you just don't take it to that level. You know,
(10:34):
that's what's got to go away. You know, twenty four
years ago again anything good that came out on nine
to eleven standing on the steps of the Capitol saying Okay,
we are one and we're going to get after it. Yeah,
you know we'll take on this evil, but now we're
all the family's all against itself here right. It's terrible.
We do appreciate you listening to this episode of I
Tell You What, and we hope you'll find more in
(10:55):
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Welcome to another episode of I Tell You What. Here
we are twenty four years later nine to eleven and
some very heavy news yesterday with the shooting of Charlie
Kirk on a campus in Utah and another school shooting
in Colorado. Everything gets a little reflective today, and also
you try to look forward today and you try to
process a lot of things. It's been twenty four years
since nine to eleven, and you kind of go like,
(00:21):
where are we at after that? Seemed like, I mean,
we were brutally attacked twenty four years ago from Afar,
and it just seems like since then we have been
brutally attacked from within. Yeah, you know, and social media
has got a lot to do with it. I don't.
You can't blame it entirely on that, but that's where
(00:41):
people take their causes and take everything. I mean, just
looking at everything, looking at Minneapolis in twenty twenty, Annunciation
School two weeks ago, yesterday, Charlie Kirk yesterday. And I'm
not here to take any direction of Charlie. I know
that he was a for a lot of people, very
polarizing and I'm not going to go down any road
with it whatsoever. It's just the fact of what happened.
(01:02):
I mean, it seemed to be very very calculated and
orchestrated and I hate to say use this word in
any tournament, well designed what they wanted to do yesterday,
whoever this person is knew what they were doing and
from far away and to the point where you can't
we don't know where this person is right now. And
you go back twenty four years and after twenty four
(01:22):
years ago, after we were attacked and the Twin Towers
and the Pentagon and you know, the field in Pennsylvania
and everything of the planes, and it just makes you
wonder how far have we come? Have we taken steps backwards?
We all kind of got on the same page twenty
four years ago. Yep, people remember that Congress was singing
(01:42):
on the steps of the Capitol like God bless America.
And today you can't get those people together to save
your life. Nope. Yesterday they even tried to do a
prayer on the floor of was it the Senate or Congress? Yeah,
but I mean that just wasn't a good idea either.
I mean, it's just that's where we're at, and it's
human lives, man, So we don't appear to be looking
(02:05):
out for each other as well as we did that
one thing about after being attacked on September eleventh, we
don't seem to really as a society. We're like some
one size is trying to look out for itself and
the other side's trying to look out for itself, and
they do that by attacking each other.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Very very polarizing, and it's just really hard because with
things like social media, people put themselves in these little
echo chambers where they're posting online and they're reading things
online that get them so whipped up and agitated, regardless
of what side you're on, and it makes them just
feel like they're so justified. If you're someone who has
(02:40):
tendencies to have crazy thoughts like going and hurting someone
for their beliefs, which is a crazy thought to do that, absolutely,
like that is so wrong. And so if you're in that,
if you're already someone who's predisposed to having those kind
of thoughts and then you're in this echo chamber, you're like,
everyone agrees this person deserves to be hurt, and nobody
(03:00):
deserves to be hurt for speaking up on what they
believe in, especially not in America. That is what America
is built on is free Yeah, the freedoms. And so
the fact that you have these little echo chambers that
people put themselves in, they feel so justified in doing
these terrible things sometimes and even more so than they
would just on their own. And it's awful. And I
(03:24):
that is something that I think is incredibly difficult to overcome.
I don't know how you do it. I think it's
it's We've talked about this before with previous incidents. I
think that it's a mental health issue more than anything.
And that is a really, really tough thing to tackle.
And that's why you see people focus on other things
because they might be easier to tackle. But the reality is,
(03:45):
if people want to hurt people, they're going to find
a way to do it. And it really is just
terrible because how do you stop it, Like you can't
go outside and that's the only even then. I mean,
if someone wants to hurt you, they're going to find
a way to do it. And it's a scary world
that we're.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Thinking about everything that we do. Yep, yes, and that
this platform and you know, as small as it is
compared to you know, other platforms, those of people in politics,
those of our senators and congressmen. And I mean look
at the you know, the families here in Minnesota in
politics two months ago. You know a friend of mine
(04:22):
and her husband shot. I mean, it's just the dialogue
seems to just be so inflamed and then it goes
to that next level of hatred and then it goes
beyond hatred into murder. Yeah, and that line seems to
be getting so much thinner, or it seems to. There
seems to be at least enough sense of a brick
wall where people can yell and scream at each other
(04:42):
and get fired up, but then it just goes next level.
It's awful. I mean, so are where are we twenty
four years later? I mean, I don't be better? Are
we worse? I don't know. I mean just appear there
were with each other. It doesn't appear to be any better. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
A couple of days after nine to eleven, the unity
that we as Americans had like that was that was awesome.
I felt like everybody we were on one team. We
weren't divided like we are now. Because it's kind of
scary that you can't have your opinion now without thinking Oh,
my life's going to be in danger. Yeah, because there's
a husband that's never coming home, there's a dad that's
(05:15):
never coming home. Or your kids in school, yes, or
your kids in school, like yesterday there was also in
Denver there was another.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
School, yeah, Evergreen High School. It's like, all of this
is just making the world a more and more scary place.
And it's just really really tough, whether it's yeah, kids
going to school or yes, people speaking up on what
they believe in. Because you should, no matter what your
beliefs are, I don't care what they are, you should
be able to feel comfortable going out and saying them
(05:43):
and talking about Right.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, you and I can have our differences, but we're
civilized exactly. Hey, you like one thing, I like one thing,
you know what, but at the end of the day
that we're Americans, we're human.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
The whole point that they're trying to do, obviously, is
science is silence a group of people. Right, so they
feel that they have silenced whatever, you know, Charlie Kirk represented,
and people look at that subjectively. I guess, you know,
some people, you know, they use strong terms for it.
Other people call it a you know, a Christian lifestyle.
(06:13):
Some call it, you have others calling it. He was
using terms like a Nazi and that kind of stuff.
I mean, it's just gotten. The vitriol is just so
inflamed and awful. But when it comes to something like
this and that's school shooting yesterday outside of or in
Colorado was absolutely, I mean a parent's worst nightmare. And
you know, and like what I watched yesterday with the
(06:34):
Charlie Kirk shooting is you know, here's a bullet flying
over these people's heads and you know, my kids, my
kids go to college. And I was just thinking that
affects everybody. I mean, that's changed everyone's life over there,
and the people they had to see that graphic video
that I wanted to get through the day not to watch,
and it's snuck up on me on my timeline and
all of a sudden, there it was, and I thought,
(06:55):
I'm like, is that AI? I literally thought that's got
to be a I tell me, please God, that's AI.
And then I heard more commentary later and I'm like, okay,
all of them, I'm not even gonna want to talk
about it any further.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
No, that's okay. All of the technology and the power
that the algorithm has. And somehow that video is still
circulating and it's still getting reposted and shared and it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
What's that up life? But it's just it's people looking
for clicks. But I mean some people, they're just regular
normal people from wherever in Minnesota or Iowa or whatever,
and they've got you know, one hundred friends and they're
not even influencers. Really, they're just hearing. I mean, I
(07:41):
just don't get the mindset of wanting to show that
to Pat don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I don't get it. And you can't even go on
any social media platform right now without potentially seeing it.
And it doesn't matter what your algorithm normally is, whether
it's normally politics or not. And it makes me sick
to my stomach because all I can think about is
the fact that that it's a dad, he has a wife,
he has two kids, two little kids, and it just
(08:06):
is really I mean, all day yesterday, I just felt
so impacted by both the school shooting yesterday and that
we've had recently, but then also just with Charlie and
I'm like in his family, and I just it's really
tough so many to.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
People they get on and It's like they were saying
things yesterday about Charlie and then they were there being
sympathetic towards Charlie and his family and everything, and then
all of a sudden, there was this meme that they
posted however or no, but yeah, you don't put a
(08:43):
butt on that. You don't. You just don't. You just
that is just not something that you do, you know,
it's it's the man just lost his life. Yeah, because
the butt then turns into a justification from murder, because
literally that's what it is, and they think that's not
it though, that's not justifying it what you are. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Even worse is when you see people, especially on Twitter
x whatever, when they're saying things that are so awful
and they're like celebrating, And I'm how can anyone, anyone,
I don't care what you believe in, celebrate another human
being hurt that way and his family losing him in
(09:23):
that way. I just can't wrap my head around the
mindset at all.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
No. It's hey, d drop it on talkback if you
have any comments. Love to take him on talkback on
the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to cable too. It's good
to have that app. On anyway, I think we may
be on backup now, which means backup transmitter. If you
listen to conventional radio, the APP is something that that
signal never really goes away. Love to hear your thoughts
on talkback. Here's one.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
You're right, Chris. Twenty four years ago we were attacked
from a foreign land and now it's within the it's
gotten worse. We need God, we need prayer, we need
to come together again. It's just too much evil, too
(10:09):
much hatred. It's horrible.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, I would agree with that. I know not everyone
would agree with that, but one thing I think we
all need to get on the same page. And I
do agree with that person. I mean, I do believe
in God, and I'm not going to stop saying that
despite what happened yesterday. I believe in Jesus. I believe
in God. And however, no matter what you believe in,
you just don't take it to that level. You know,
(10:34):
that's what's got to go away. You know, twenty four
years ago again anything good that came out on nine
to eleven standing on the steps of the Capitol saying Okay,
we are one and we're going to get after it. Yeah,
you know we'll take on this evil, but now we're
all the family's all against itself here right. It's terrible.
We do appreciate you listening to this episode of I
Tell You What, and we hope you'll find more in
(10:55):
the iHeartRadio app or anywhere you get your podcast. Please rate, review, subscribe, download,
share like. Thank you
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