CSB - Phil O'Reilly - Business Time

Our weekly business chat. This week we cover.

•  The government has announced a review of the Holidays Act.
• More problems with the Prime Minister's plane this week.
• Paris Olympics 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Country Sport Breakfast with Brian Kelly on gold Sport
is business is business?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
What you're trying to say, you're trying to bus.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Time to talk business with Phil O'Reilly who's currently in Europe.
Got a very busy time over there and in Paris
at the moment, bojur Phil.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Thanks madam. I must say that, given the time difference,
you are the only thing standing between me and a beer.
So I'll look forward to the conversation. Then I'll look
forward to going to the nearest bar.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
All right, Okay, well let's start off. I won't hold
you up to too much longer. The government has announced
a review of the holiday zacht. Now I'm told that
a lot of employees employees struggle to comply with it,
so will a review help?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
It will? Actually, this is a real bug beer for employers.
There's any any employer listening into this he runs a
anything other than a very simple payroll. We'll be able
to tell you some horror stories about trying to comply
with the holidays. Actually, the definitions it was sort of
set up in the nineteen sixties when they were a
very different world on nineteen eighties. Actually, to be fair
to it when we were in a very different world
and employment patterns were very very different, so it's just

(01:16):
out of date. And what it means is that employers,
including very large employers like the government, get in trouble
with the courts because they've done their best to comply
with it and then some strange rule gets in the
way and all of a sudden they're liable for some wages.
There is when actually they were trying to do the
right thing. So what the Minister book vand eleven is
doing is saying, well, look, let's simplify it and work

(01:37):
on a cruel model. Basically, if you work a day,
you get x x amount of holiday pay and if
you you know, it's a very very simple model she's
trying to work on. Now. I know the trade unions
and some others are having a bit of a moan
about that, but I think that is the right outcome.
I think that is what most employers would think about
in terms of holiday pay. I think it'll make it

(01:58):
much easier to comply with it, and I think that's most
important thing. You shouldn't have laws that are so complicated
that people get in trouble even when they're trying to
do the right thing. So good on the government for
doing this. It's long overdue and someone needed to push
through and get it done. So good on Brooklyn Zeln
for doing that right.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Oh, more problems with the Prime minister's plane this week.
Why can't we just sort this way to have filth?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
It's just it's just ridiculous, isn't it. You know, it's
embarrassing the PM will have turned up in Japan and
that business delegation, many of whom I know on that plane,
will have turned up a day late. And instead of
we going to sell New Zealand to Japan, a major
trading partner. You know, g is the absurd biggest economy
in the world. I think now that what they would
have had to do is endure a whole bunch of

(02:41):
people saying, oh, what was the problem with your plane?
You know, just a total distraction, and it makes us
look stupid, and it makes us look amateurish, and it
makes us look as though we don't know what we're doing.
And that's exactly what you don't want to do when
you're dealing with a big, wealthy economy like Japan. So
you know, politicians are current Prime ministers play game as
over this, just like all the others have to try

(03:02):
and say we don't need it and streadfall and so on.
We just do need it. It's a bit like the
people who say you should never do up Premier House
in Wellington, the Prime Minister's residence. Of course you should,
because it's not about the Prime Minister. It's about New Zealand,
and it's about our places in the world and how
we represent ourselves to the world. So we should just
get on with it, get a new plane, even a
better plane than the one we've got, and start being

(03:25):
more professional about the way we go to to treat markets.
No other country in the world would put up with
this unless they were sort of Venezuela or something. Probably
even they wouldn't, So we just need to get on
with this. It was re annoying to me that basic
things like this we just don't seem about to have
the right conversation with the public and say, look, you know,
we need to have these kinds of facilities to make
things work.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
The scary thing is that they fixed the plane. They've
sent it to Japan to bring them back. Let's hope
that it actually gets out of Japan.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, but I was if I was booked on that plane,
if I was part of the PM delegation, I wouldn't
take the plane. You can't guarantee it, and that's just ridiculous,
and it's just crazy that, you know, we're a wealthy
country New Zealand, we're not the Third World of developing something.
We're fine, and we can't even afford to sort ourselves
out a plane that actually works, and it's just ridiculous.
So as I say, it's the fault of the politicians,

(04:12):
they need to get over themselves and start saying to
the public and to each other, this is just ridiculous.
And we do need the right kinds of facilities to
make our way in the world.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
As I mentioned at the beginning of the program, And
you're ready to head down the chanter Lisa for our
cold beer. You're currently in Paris hosting the Olympics in
just a few weeks. What's it like there right now?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Oh, mate, it's it's amazing. It's any Olympics, of course
is fantastic. And I know you're a This is a
sports show where that we're on today as much as
it is a business show. And just as I thought,
I'd just say the listeners, it's brilliant. I mean the
Olympics I've been to. I've been to the Sydney Olympics,
and I've seen cities prep for the Olympics, because nothing
like the French this The Olympics are going to take
place all around me. Here I'm in central Paris, so

(04:52):
there's there's stadiums on the you know, on the all around,
through through the Eiffel Tower, the Trocadero and into the
central part of Paris itself, and they're all most of
the seating is temporary, so they really are going to
be right in the middle of Paris and you you
can already see the the site lines for the cameras,
so you're going to be watching sport and right behind

(05:12):
it's going to be some iconic structure and some incredible
building and some incredible site. So they've really done a
great job of writing effectively in the Olympics, a lovely
to Paris. I mean, it's the most beautiful city in
the world of my view, but they've sort of emphasized
this point and so a big winner I think out
of the Olympics will in fact be Paris yourself. The

(05:33):
beauty of it, and everybody will want to come once
again and see and see this great, this great city
called Paris. So I think they're going to do a
great job, as only the French can. It's going to
be very original. You would just wouldn't want to be
in Paris during the time it's going to go on, though,
it's going to be just a disaster and m trap.
It's already difficult to get around the city with all
the security and so on. But it's just it's going
to really be quite something to watch on TV. I'm sure,

(05:55):
just the just the great sites of Paris and the
and the gorgeous nature of the city. It's going to
be really quite special.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
As the song says, I love Paris in the springtime.
I can hear that be a calling, fellow. I'll let
you go and enjoy it much. Thanks so much. That's
fellow Riley talking a little bit of business out of
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