June 20, 2024 • 5 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From the rugby field to the rotary shed. It's the
Country Sport Breakfast with Brian Kelly on gold Sport.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Joining us back home, hopefully in New Zealand now newstor
Exibe's political editor based in the press gallery. Broken bet
he's got to back the bowing. I believe Jason Wall's morning, Jason.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Make Did you fly back from Japan on that old
broken down boeing?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We did, and she made it the full way there.
We stopped at Ken's on the way back in Australia
to refuel briefly, but yes, we got here in the
end on time pretty much.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Was there a bit of trepidation aborting that plane thinking,
you know, is they going to make it?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh? Absolutely, there was trepidation, and we were waiting there
to take off, and then it passed the time the
whistles to be taking off for by five minutes and
ten minutes and fifteen minutes, and I started to get
the sinking feeling in my stomach. And then over the
PA we heard someone say, oh, good evening, ladies, gentlemen,
and I thought, oh no, oh no. But it turns
out that the little vehicle that taxes us into the
(00:58):
runway had some meat and it's issues, so they were
getting another one. So it was fine in the end,
but oh my god, my heart was in my throat
for a minute.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
There is that thing way past. It's used by date,
I mean as far as comfort goes. And you guys
traveling with the prime mister on, well, what's it like inside?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh, it's it's fine inside. I mean, it's just another plane.
And to be honest, like it's quite it's reasonably nice
in there. It just looks like any other Boeing seven
five seven. The problem is, and you know, it does
keep breaking down, so that is clearly and obviously a problem.
But you'll talk to people that are in the defense
force or the aviation industry and they say, it's not
(01:36):
actually that common for planes to experience these small, little
technical issues. And what happens is we usually don't see it.
For example, in New Zealand, they'll have probably a similar
breakdown rate with their planes, but they just get another
one to kind of come in and swap out, so
the customers never see it. It just happens with this
plane because there's not another one for them to swap
in with that it means that they have to wait
(01:58):
and things get delayed, and so it basically, I mean,
the way it's been described to me is it doesn't
break it down any more than any other plane of
its sort of age and caliber. It's just that when
the Prime minister's on it, it seems to somehow it
inexplicably happen more.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
It's still embarrassing for our country. Was there much talk
about what is going to happen as far as flying
to destinations in.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
The future, Well, I mean, there does seem to be
a bit more reluctance from the Prime Minister to do
it again. I mean, it was the front page of
the Herald. It was a story that everybody was talking
about the plane breaking down again. So even if you
can understand the reasons behind it in the rationale, it
is still an embarrassing story. And he'll look to be
wanting to ensure that this doesn't happen again. He's got
(02:43):
quite a full program of travel this year that he's
not even halfway through yet, and so he'll be wanting
to be able to get through without having any more
hiccups like this. So I would imagine he would probably
be leaning on more commercial options from now on.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So apart from his comments regarding ciglisters, was the trip
to Japan a success?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Oh well, I mean, listen, being on the ground in
a place in Japan, it's hard for it not to
be successful. You show face, you talk to a bunch
of businesses, and then he had the meeting with President
or Prime Minister Kashita right at the end. But a
lot of the things that happened in terms of the
business side I think could have probably happened with or
without the Prime Minister there. I Rocket Lab launched a
(03:23):
new agreement with the Japanese based satellite company. Prime Minister
didn't facilitate that. He just talked about how great it was.
And even the meeting with President Kashita, he finalized an
agreement that was started by Jacinda r Dern in terms
of information intelligence sharing. So he didn't actually do anything
(03:43):
all that groundbreaking on the ground. So you know, it
was an okay trip for the Prime Minister in terms
of what he achieved. However, a lot of that was
sort of sidelined with the distraction of the plane and
those sealst comments that he made to me when I
was interviewing him on Friday about former business delegations.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And a chance too for business leaders, and there are
a lot of them over there with the Prime Minister,
like Fontira to get in front of the Japanese people
Japanese supermarkets, a tour of a supermarket looking at New
Zealand products.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there is a bit of that.
I mean, the business allegation did come along with us
for a few events, and they did have their own
sort of schedule of events as well, and I just
think you know, a list or c list. The question
for me is like what it actually achieved for a
business delegation on these trips. I mean, is it because
they're on the trips with the Prime Minister that they're
getting any business that they otherwise wouldn't have. I mean,
(04:37):
it could well be the case. I'm just curious to
see what actually tangibly they get out of this.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You said that the Prime Minister's going to full travel
schedule coming up and the rest of the year. So
where else does he head to?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Oh well, there's various different places that he said that
he is going. We haven't actually had a lot of
it officially confirmed yet, but the Prime Minister has talked
about how he wants to be at NATO that's coming
up in a couple weeks in over in Washington, d C.
And then he's also talked about how he wants to
go to India at some point this year, and I
believe that that's on the cards as well. And then
APEC this year it's in South America. He's also talked
(05:12):
about how he wants to go to that and New
Zealand prime ministers usually do go to those events. So
they're all across scattered across the planet really, so we'll
have to see if we get on old Betty or
if we a little bit more reliable.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Jason, Great to have you back, mate, Enjoy the weekend. Now,
how are you picking the Chiefs or the Blues? Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I'm picking the Blues. I lived in Auckland for about
nine years, so I'm probably gonna have to go that.
But I sound like a bit of a jaffer, so
don't hate me too much.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay, all right, mate, have a good weekend.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Thanks mate.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Jason Wall's news Dogs nb's political editor based in the
presscal Are in his vote, Mike just tip the Blues
over in front of the Chiefs picks at the moment
for Super Rugby
From the rugby field to the rotary shed. It's the
Country Sport Breakfast with Brian Kelly on gold Sport.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Joining us back home, hopefully in New Zealand now newstor
Exibe's political editor based in the press gallery. Broken bet
he's got to back the bowing. I believe Jason Wall's morning, Jason.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Make Did you fly back from Japan on that old
broken down boeing?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We did, and she made it the full way there.
We stopped at Ken's on the way back in Australia
to refuel briefly, but yes, we got here in the
end on time pretty much.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Was there a bit of trepidation aborting that plane thinking,
you know, is they going to make it?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh? Absolutely, there was trepidation, and we were waiting there
to take off, and then it passed the time the
whistles to be taking off for by five minutes and
ten minutes and fifteen minutes, and I started to get
the sinking feeling in my stomach. And then over the
PA we heard someone say, oh, good evening, ladies, gentlemen,
and I thought, oh no, oh no. But it turns
out that the little vehicle that taxes us into the
(00:58):
runway had some meat and it's issues, so they were
getting another one. So it was fine in the end,
but oh my god, my heart was in my throat
for a minute.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
There is that thing way past. It's used by date,
I mean as far as comfort goes. And you guys
traveling with the prime mister on, well, what's it like inside?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh, it's it's fine inside. I mean, it's just another plane.
And to be honest, like it's quite it's reasonably nice
in there. It just looks like any other Boeing seven
five seven. The problem is, and you know, it does
keep breaking down, so that is clearly and obviously a problem.
But you'll talk to people that are in the defense
force or the aviation industry and they say, it's not
(01:36):
actually that common for planes to experience these small, little
technical issues. And what happens is we usually don't see it.
For example, in New Zealand, they'll have probably a similar
breakdown rate with their planes, but they just get another
one to kind of come in and swap out, so
the customers never see it. It just happens with this
plane because there's not another one for them to swap
in with that it means that they have to wait
(01:58):
and things get delayed, and so it basically, I mean,
the way it's been described to me is it doesn't
break it down any more than any other plane of
its sort of age and caliber. It's just that when
the Prime minister's on it, it seems to somehow it
inexplicably happen more.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
It's still embarrassing for our country. Was there much talk
about what is going to happen as far as flying
to destinations in.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
The future, Well, I mean, there does seem to be
a bit more reluctance from the Prime Minister to do
it again. I mean, it was the front page of
the Herald. It was a story that everybody was talking
about the plane breaking down again. So even if you
can understand the reasons behind it in the rationale, it
is still an embarrassing story. And he'll look to be
wanting to ensure that this doesn't happen again. He's got
(02:43):
quite a full program of travel this year that he's
not even halfway through yet, and so he'll be wanting
to be able to get through without having any more
hiccups like this. So I would imagine he would probably
be leaning on more commercial options from now on.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So apart from his comments regarding ciglisters, was the trip
to Japan a success?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Oh well, I mean, listen, being on the ground in
a place in Japan, it's hard for it not to
be successful. You show face, you talk to a bunch
of businesses, and then he had the meeting with President
or Prime Minister Kashita right at the end. But a
lot of the things that happened in terms of the
business side I think could have probably happened with or
without the Prime Minister there. I Rocket Lab launched a
(03:23):
new agreement with the Japanese based satellite company. Prime Minister
didn't facilitate that. He just talked about how great it was.
And even the meeting with President Kashita, he finalized an
agreement that was started by Jacinda r Dern in terms
of information intelligence sharing. So he didn't actually do anything
(03:43):
all that groundbreaking on the ground. So you know, it
was an okay trip for the Prime Minister in terms
of what he achieved. However, a lot of that was
sort of sidelined with the distraction of the plane and
those sealst comments that he made to me when I
was interviewing him on Friday about former business delegations.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And a chance too for business leaders, and there are
a lot of them over there with the Prime Minister,
like Fontira to get in front of the Japanese people
Japanese supermarkets, a tour of a supermarket looking at New
Zealand products.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there is a bit of that.
I mean, the business allegation did come along with us
for a few events, and they did have their own
sort of schedule of events as well, and I just
think you know, a list or c list. The question
for me is like what it actually achieved for a
business delegation on these trips. I mean, is it because
they're on the trips with the Prime Minister that they're
getting any business that they otherwise wouldn't have. I mean,
(04:37):
it could well be the case. I'm just curious to
see what actually tangibly they get out of this.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You said that the Prime Minister's going to full travel
schedule coming up and the rest of the year. So
where else does he head to?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Oh well, there's various different places that he said that
he is going. We haven't actually had a lot of
it officially confirmed yet, but the Prime Minister has talked
about how he wants to be at NATO that's coming
up in a couple weeks in over in Washington, d C.
And then he's also talked about how he wants to
go to India at some point this year, and I
believe that that's on the cards as well. And then
APEC this year it's in South America. He's also talked
(05:12):
about how he wants to go to that and New
Zealand prime ministers usually do go to those events. So
they're all across scattered across the planet really, so we'll
have to see if we get on old Betty or
if we a little bit more reliable.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Jason, Great to have you back, mate, Enjoy the weekend. Now,
how are you picking the Chiefs or the Blues? Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I'm picking the Blues. I lived in Auckland for about
nine years, so I'm probably gonna have to go that.
But I sound like a bit of a jaffer, so
don't hate me too much.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay, all right, mate, have a good weekend.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Thanks mate.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Jason Wall's news Dogs nb's political editor based in the
presscal Are in his vote, Mike just tip the Blues
over in front of the Chiefs picks at the moment
for Super Rugby
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