July 17, 2024 • 5 mins
Talking the Commonwealth Junior and Cadet Fencing Championships that is currently underway in Christchurch.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From the cricket field to the cow shed.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's the Country Sport Breakfast with Brian Kelly on Gold
Sport eight seventeen.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Here on the Country Sport Breakfast.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
A couple of weeks ago we previewed this big event
that's been held in christ Church in fact wraps up
tomorrow the Commonwealth Junior and Cadet Fencing Championships. Caught up
with the President of Fencing New Zealand, David Elder, who
joins us again.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Today with some very good news out of Tuesday morning.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
David O, Brian here, you do I need a fantastic
news for us.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
So we've won a gold and it was a Kiwi
foiler that won this medal.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah. Ruby chan so been in New Zealand five years.
Just she had an absolute donner in the final. She
won fifteen to three over which is a drumming that's
a huge, huge result against Zoe Wagstaff, Zoe from Scotland.
Scotland's go get that right. So's she's currently the British
(00:54):
under twenty and under twenty three champions, so she's doing
the World Cup circuit. So for Ruby depollad out of
the blocks was just incredible.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, that's absolutely fantastic. Where where does Ruby hail from?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Robby lives in Auckland. She's asked me to give a
shout out. She's she just had a month in Hong
Kong training that she's come back and asked me to
do a shout out to her new clubs here, Pulse
and Auckland Sorts. Yeah, lovely, lovely young lady, really really
good lady.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
And how did the rest of the key we contingent
go over the course of the last few days because
it wraps up tomorrow, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It wraps up tomorrow. So we had to cadet the
under seventeens for the first four days, and I has
to say we didn't do as well as we hoped.
We came away with the pay bronze teams. Our real
hope was the men's pay the individuals, which didn't work out.
But this morning we're into the junior teams and I
(01:49):
have to say, our boys in the men's pay teams
this morning, you know they've got a really strong chance
of turning around and doing something special.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
We mentioned it when we last bag that all this
is the biggest fencing event ever held in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
By a very long margin. We've done the Commonwealth veterans
here before, but apart from that, the closest we've come
we've done some Oceanic seniors, Oceania juniors, but this is
the first time we've had people coming from literally all
over the Commonwealth Scotland, England, Wales, Cypress, India, Malaysia, Singapore, Australia.
(02:30):
Obviously a title of eleven different Commonwealth nations, over three
hundred and sixty athletes. And trust me, you know you
don't hear much about fencing in New Zealand, but we
are taking athletes. We're talking truly truly high performance athletes
where you know, we judge things in a twenty fifth
of a second, and I mean quite literally. You see
(02:51):
a twenty fifth of a second, and now, particularly a
young ones, they'll see an opportunity and they'll know that
they can score one twenty fifth of a second earlier
or at the same time and take a double an EPAI. Yeah,
fantastic sport, fantastic Olympic sport. You'll see it coming up. Obviously,
coming out of Paris, we've also had a lady called
(03:12):
Arena Caniche. She came down for New Zealand to help
us with our referee development, and she literally flew back
three am on Monday morning back to Austria. She's going
to Paris now where she'll be the head referee at
the Grand Palais. Yes, she's done amazing things for our
(03:32):
referee development here and we have international referees from all
over the world in now.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, it's amazing. So it's being held at the Events
center in Church Nipball Center. I'm just explained the three
the three Olympic discipline, so there is the foil, So
just for those who don't know how it works, what
happens there?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Okay, well I'll probably start with APA, not because I'm
an epaist and I love the weapon, but simply because
it's the easiest to explain. Whole body is target. You
have a ard around your hand. So when I say
the whole body, I'm in the whole body from the
little finger, the thumb, your big toe, your head, everything's target, right,
And it's simply whoever hits first gets the point. If
(04:12):
you're one twenty fifth of a second faster, you get it.
If you're both within that one twenty fifth, you're even
so it's the point weapon, Foil, same thing Foil is.
It's a lighter weapon, smaller guard and only the toolso
is target. And if you see it on TV, and
I'll do a shout out here to the sky select
on Monday night five o'clock if you want to see
(04:33):
these these weapons, we've got three hours, got to see
the sky opportunity to have a look at it. And
I think seven Sharp are doing an item on us
tonight as well, so you can see it. So Foil,
you're heading the you're heading the vital bits. It's what's
called the priority weapon. And it's harder to explain and
harder to judge. The If you attack me really slowly
(04:58):
and I lean out and hit you and you keep coming,
you hit me, it's your point. You started, you have
the priority, so I would have to disrupt your attack
in order to take the priority off you. That's the
point weapon. Then Saber similar but it's your mad Pirates
of the Caribbean type of fencing. It's cutting and same thing. Priority.
(05:21):
The referee has to decide who starts first. Video refereeing
comes in a lot because as I say who started first,
well they both gone flat out and they're usually pretty
loud too, which is kind of fun. Yeah, it's a
wonderful sport.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Sounds good and you've described it well.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Hey David, good luck for the latter's for the next
couple of days and maybe we'll get another Commonwealth champion.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Thanks mate. We're hoping for big things out of their
boys today.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Brilliant. David Elder, President of Fencing New Zealand,
From the cricket field to the cow shed.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's the Country Sport Breakfast with Brian Kelly on Gold
Sport eight seventeen.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Here on the Country Sport Breakfast.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
A couple of weeks ago we previewed this big event
that's been held in christ Church in fact wraps up
tomorrow the Commonwealth Junior and Cadet Fencing Championships. Caught up
with the President of Fencing New Zealand, David Elder, who
joins us again.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Today with some very good news out of Tuesday morning.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
David O, Brian here, you do I need a fantastic
news for us.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
So we've won a gold and it was a Kiwi
foiler that won this medal.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah. Ruby chan so been in New Zealand five years.
Just she had an absolute donner in the final. She
won fifteen to three over which is a drumming that's
a huge, huge result against Zoe Wagstaff, Zoe from Scotland.
Scotland's go get that right. So's she's currently the British
(00:54):
under twenty and under twenty three champions, so she's doing
the World Cup circuit. So for Ruby depollad out of
the blocks was just incredible.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, that's absolutely fantastic. Where where does Ruby hail from?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Robby lives in Auckland. She's asked me to give a
shout out. She's she just had a month in Hong
Kong training that she's come back and asked me to
do a shout out to her new clubs here, Pulse
and Auckland Sorts. Yeah, lovely, lovely young lady, really really
good lady.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
And how did the rest of the key we contingent
go over the course of the last few days because
it wraps up tomorrow, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It wraps up tomorrow. So we had to cadet the
under seventeens for the first four days, and I has
to say we didn't do as well as we hoped.
We came away with the pay bronze teams. Our real
hope was the men's pay the individuals, which didn't work out.
But this morning we're into the junior teams and I
(01:49):
have to say, our boys in the men's pay teams
this morning, you know they've got a really strong chance
of turning around and doing something special.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
We mentioned it when we last bag that all this
is the biggest fencing event ever held in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
By a very long margin. We've done the Commonwealth veterans
here before, but apart from that, the closest we've come
we've done some Oceanic seniors, Oceania juniors, but this is
the first time we've had people coming from literally all
over the Commonwealth Scotland, England, Wales, Cypress, India, Malaysia, Singapore, Australia.
(02:30):
Obviously a title of eleven different Commonwealth nations, over three
hundred and sixty athletes. And trust me, you know you
don't hear much about fencing in New Zealand, but we
are taking athletes. We're talking truly truly high performance athletes
where you know, we judge things in a twenty fifth
of a second, and I mean quite literally. You see
(02:51):
a twenty fifth of a second, and now, particularly a
young ones, they'll see an opportunity and they'll know that
they can score one twenty fifth of a second earlier
or at the same time and take a double an EPAI. Yeah,
fantastic sport, fantastic Olympic sport. You'll see it coming up. Obviously,
coming out of Paris, we've also had a lady called
(03:12):
Arena Caniche. She came down for New Zealand to help
us with our referee development, and she literally flew back
three am on Monday morning back to Austria. She's going
to Paris now where she'll be the head referee at
the Grand Palais. Yes, she's done amazing things for our
(03:32):
referee development here and we have international referees from all
over the world in now.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, it's amazing. So it's being held at the Events
center in Church Nipball Center. I'm just explained the three
the three Olympic discipline, so there is the foil, So
just for those who don't know how it works, what
happens there?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Okay, well I'll probably start with APA, not because I'm
an epaist and I love the weapon, but simply because
it's the easiest to explain. Whole body is target. You
have a ard around your hand. So when I say
the whole body, I'm in the whole body from the
little finger, the thumb, your big toe, your head, everything's target, right,
And it's simply whoever hits first gets the point. If
(04:12):
you're one twenty fifth of a second faster, you get it.
If you're both within that one twenty fifth, you're even
so it's the point weapon, Foil, same thing Foil is.
It's a lighter weapon, smaller guard and only the toolso
is target. And if you see it on TV, and
I'll do a shout out here to the sky select
on Monday night five o'clock if you want to see
(04:33):
these these weapons, we've got three hours, got to see
the sky opportunity to have a look at it. And
I think seven Sharp are doing an item on us
tonight as well, so you can see it. So Foil,
you're heading the you're heading the vital bits. It's what's
called the priority weapon. And it's harder to explain and
harder to judge. The If you attack me really slowly
(04:58):
and I lean out and hit you and you keep coming,
you hit me, it's your point. You started, you have
the priority, so I would have to disrupt your attack
in order to take the priority off you. That's the
point weapon. Then Saber similar but it's your mad Pirates
of the Caribbean type of fencing. It's cutting and same thing. Priority.
(05:21):
The referee has to decide who starts first. Video refereeing
comes in a lot because as I say who started first,
well they both gone flat out and they're usually pretty
loud too, which is kind of fun. Yeah, it's a
wonderful sport.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Sounds good and you've described it well.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Hey David, good luck for the latter's for the next
couple of days and maybe we'll get another Commonwealth champion.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Thanks mate. We're hoping for big things out of their
boys today.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Brilliant. David Elder, President of Fencing New Zealand,
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