July 21, 2024 • 8 mins
Looking back at the ALl BLacks getting the job done against FIji over in the US of A.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
International rugby coverage on the country.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Sport Breakfast is proudly brought to you by Access Solutions,
elevating you and your business to a higher level.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Time to talk rugby on the show. Now, three tests
done and dusted under Raiser Robinson's rule, you could say,
his coaching with a new look team and out of
San Diego. We catch up with our commentator Elliot Smith.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Morning, Elliott good, ab hey, good to catch up.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Okay, mate, let's look at it with three tests down
and they've certainly improved on the first two of those.
Fiji were different kettle of fish, weren't they.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
They were, and they defended differently and gave the All
Blacks perhaps more opportunities than you might have expected. And
from what we saw against England that the previous week,
and that's not always going to happen in test match rugby.
It was defensive systems from England where they had the
rush defense. We certainly didn't see that from the Fijians
(00:54):
on Saturday. They were a bit more loose and free
and that are presented opportunities to the All Blacks to
have a bit more turnover ball and play what what
they wanted to do. So we saw more of the
All Black style on the weekend than probably we saw
in the first couple of games. But it's not always
going to be that easy. But it was refreshing to
(01:15):
see the All Blacks have some ball and show what
they can do with it.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I was quite surprised at the end result really, I
mean Fiji only putting five points on the board, whereas
the All Blacks ran away with forty seven. But when
the Fijians did have the ball, they actually looked dangerous,
didn't they.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
They did, yep, and caused the All Blacks some issues
and ran a lot of their attack around Semi rud
Brodre his first Test match against the All Blacks. He's
been around you and for a number of years since
he switched to from rugby league, of course, but he
caused the All Blacks all sorts of issues with his
running game and his ability to get the hands free
and offload to his teammates. But they just could of
(01:50):
string together enough phases often enough to put the pressure
on the All Blacks. Obviously, that try the crossfield kicker
is an issue for the All Blacks. I think their
last three tries from that sort of manner, so they're
going to have to fix that in the coming weeks
as they head into the Rugby Championship. But the ability
for the Fijians to throw the ball around did cause
(02:10):
the All Blacks and issues, but as I say, they
weren't able to stick with it long enough to really
force the issue and put the All Blacks on the
back foot inside their own twenty two. So that was
I guess what we saw from the Fijians. The All Blacks,
on the other hand, probably attacked or All will definitely
attack more than what we've seen in the past couple
of weeks against the English, they had more ball and
more opportunity to press their claim against the Fijians.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Looking at the team and there were quite a number
of changes in fact, during the course of the eighty
odd minutes or so they brought on the bench as well,
and there were some pretty impressive performances by the new players, weren't.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
There there were? I think we look at the start
that Billy Proctor had to his test career and give
him an absolute round of applause. I thought it was
excellent and the obvious comparisons against Rico Yuwani, who struggled
for time and space and distribution against England, and as
we've touched on, it's not always going to be that easy.
But Billy Proctor seemed to find a way every time
(03:07):
he had the ball in his hands to break through
the line or set up his outside and find a
way to keep the movements going. So I think a
big tick for Billy Procter and what he was able
to do. We still know a hope them. Obviously come
on in the first half of the game on Saturday,
more game time than he expected to get, and I
thought he made every post a winner. I think with
(03:29):
of course, is Ratama playing really well? I thought in
the opening thirty thirty five minutes before he was injured
and now Noah hope him. There's some real question marks
around the makeup of the All Blacks half backstock, so
both of those players who got the bulk of the
debutants game time made every post to win it. Then
on the bench, I was really impressed by Wallace to
Tepee and Sam Dowry. I thought Darry had a really
(03:51):
good start to his Test career, carried strongly when he
had the opportunity, good work in the line out Wallace
to Tepee as well impressed, broke through the line on
a couple of occasions as well, and then you know,
look at the likes of George Vallen, Passily or Tossi
to round us out. Perhaps a mistake or two from
those players, but first test in Tossy getting penalized at
(04:15):
his first scrum, but that's an opportunity and you know,
a past mark I think for both of those players
as well. So a lot to like from those debutantes
given they blooded six and some interesting questions for Scott
Robinson and his selectors headed the Rugby Championship.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, I mean, not a flawless outing for the All Blacks,
but yeah, what do you think the improvements will need
to be worked on before the Rugby Championship because it
gets tougher from now on with South Africa and maybe Australia.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, and Argentina as well, who can threaten of course too. Look,
I think the defending of the crossfield kick's got to
be a priority for the All Blacks. That said, considered
three of those in the last couple of weeks and
do seem vulnerable there, whether it's a just a defensive
system floor or players misreading when the opportunity for the
(05:07):
attacking team is going to come. They do need to
sort that out because you can imagine that the other
Rugby Championship teams will have definitely spotted that and I
think just stringing pressure and phases together has to be
a focus for the All Blacks And this is when
we saw definitely on the weekend, is that they probably
left the two or three tries out on the park,
if not more, with just the hands not helping them
(05:32):
out at the right time, or moments breaking down or
losing the ball into contact, just sort of things like that.
Because they've shown on the last couple of weeks and
there was opportunities against England and both those tests, it
didn't take as well as just having that killer instinct
to take those opportunities because in the modern test rugby
game they are few and far between. Against the top sides,
(05:54):
space is an absolute premium, so when those opportunities come,
you have to ice them and I think that's something
that the All Blacks coaching staff will be mowing over
as they take a week or so off before they
get back into campus.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It was great on this side of the world watching
on a Saturday afternoon out of Snapdragon Stadium in San Diego,
and it was pretty much your full house. Pretty impressive
though that field. It wasn't artificial grass, was it, but
it almost looked that way it was.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, it doesn't. I think it's a close cut grass
or something over there. I think a local football team
play on it, and the National Women's Soccer League as
well as well as the San Diego Legion, so they
use it for a variety of sports, and I guess
in America rugby doesn't have much weight to throw around
(06:41):
in terms of the turf. But didn't seem to cause
any players issues, so I don't think it was that
sort of astro turfy stuff we see often where I
know the Black fans playing in Canada absolutely loaths it
because they come with injuries and knees and various things
every time they played this, So it didn't seem that bad,
but it certainly wasn't the kind of turf that we
used to in their home in New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Will they play in the USA again? Do you think
the All Beaks was it a success?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah? I think I will. I suspect they might head
back there next year, and they're rarely keen to try
and hammer home the All Blacks brand in the United
States they head the World Cup in twenty thirty one
and convert some of those spectators and obviously that turns
into commercial opportunities for New Zealand Rugby as well that
they can potentially capitalize on with a number of brands.
(07:28):
And I guess it's all about a cash as a
cash grab, but it's about, you know, maximizing that commercial
doll in New Zealand just doesn't have the access to
those big companies. And when you look at some of
the outfit sponsoring the Six Nations and the European Theams
in particular, New Zealand brands just don't have that mite.
So if you can unlock the US get over there.
That were closer signing off a deal with Amazon a
(07:50):
couple of years ago that then fell through. You know,
there's a lot of money coming out of the United States,
so the presence they have on the ground is important.
I'm hearing they might play there next year, perhaps later
on in the year before they embark on the end
of your tour or as part of the end of
the tour, So that's still to be confirmed, but I
suspect this will certainly be a regular feature over the
(08:12):
next few years as a build to the twenty thirty
one Ruggy World Cup.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Fantastic Elliott, thanks for joining us, mate. Let's talk again soon.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Soun's good to be catch soon.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Elliot Smith, who called the game with Frank Buntz on
Saturday afternoon. Next she was in the car listening to
the second half of the game and they did a
damn good job. She's fantastic. Course, the next one the
Rugby Championship, as we talked about with Elliott. We play
Argentina in Wellington on August the tenth,
International rugby coverage on the country.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Sport Breakfast is proudly brought to you by Access Solutions,
elevating you and your business to a higher level.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Time to talk rugby on the show. Now, three tests
done and dusted under Raiser Robinson's rule, you could say,
his coaching with a new look team and out of
San Diego. We catch up with our commentator Elliot Smith.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Morning, Elliott good, ab hey, good to catch up.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Okay, mate, let's look at it with three tests down
and they've certainly improved on the first two of those.
Fiji were different kettle of fish, weren't they.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
They were, and they defended differently and gave the All
Blacks perhaps more opportunities than you might have expected. And
from what we saw against England that the previous week,
and that's not always going to happen in test match rugby.
It was defensive systems from England where they had the
rush defense. We certainly didn't see that from the Fijians
(00:54):
on Saturday. They were a bit more loose and free
and that are presented opportunities to the All Blacks to
have a bit more turnover ball and play what what
they wanted to do. So we saw more of the
All Black style on the weekend than probably we saw
in the first couple of games. But it's not always
going to be that easy. But it was refreshing to
(01:15):
see the All Blacks have some ball and show what
they can do with it.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I was quite surprised at the end result really, I
mean Fiji only putting five points on the board, whereas
the All Blacks ran away with forty seven. But when
the Fijians did have the ball, they actually looked dangerous,
didn't they.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
They did, yep, and caused the All Blacks some issues
and ran a lot of their attack around Semi rud
Brodre his first Test match against the All Blacks. He's
been around you and for a number of years since
he switched to from rugby league, of course, but he
caused the All Blacks all sorts of issues with his
running game and his ability to get the hands free
and offload to his teammates. But they just could of
(01:50):
string together enough phases often enough to put the pressure
on the All Blacks. Obviously, that try the crossfield kicker
is an issue for the All Blacks. I think their
last three tries from that sort of manner, so they're
going to have to fix that in the coming weeks
as they head into the Rugby Championship. But the ability
for the Fijians to throw the ball around did cause
(02:10):
the All Blacks and issues, but as I say, they
weren't able to stick with it long enough to really
force the issue and put the All Blacks on the
back foot inside their own twenty two. So that was
I guess what we saw from the Fijians. The All Blacks,
on the other hand, probably attacked or All will definitely
attack more than what we've seen in the past couple
of weeks against the English, they had more ball and
more opportunity to press their claim against the Fijians.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Looking at the team and there were quite a number
of changes in fact, during the course of the eighty
odd minutes or so they brought on the bench as well,
and there were some pretty impressive performances by the new players, weren't.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
There there were? I think we look at the start
that Billy Proctor had to his test career and give
him an absolute round of applause. I thought it was
excellent and the obvious comparisons against Rico Yuwani, who struggled
for time and space and distribution against England, and as
we've touched on, it's not always going to be that easy.
But Billy Proctor seemed to find a way every time
(03:07):
he had the ball in his hands to break through
the line or set up his outside and find a
way to keep the movements going. So I think a
big tick for Billy Procter and what he was able
to do. We still know a hope them. Obviously come
on in the first half of the game on Saturday,
more game time than he expected to get, and I
thought he made every post a winner. I think with
(03:29):
of course, is Ratama playing really well? I thought in
the opening thirty thirty five minutes before he was injured
and now Noah hope him. There's some real question marks
around the makeup of the All Blacks half backstock, so
both of those players who got the bulk of the
debutants game time made every post to win it. Then
on the bench, I was really impressed by Wallace to
Tepee and Sam Dowry. I thought Darry had a really
(03:51):
good start to his Test career, carried strongly when he
had the opportunity, good work in the line out Wallace
to Tepee as well impressed, broke through the line on
a couple of occasions as well, and then you know,
look at the likes of George Vallen, Passily or Tossi
to round us out. Perhaps a mistake or two from
those players, but first test in Tossy getting penalized at
(04:15):
his first scrum, but that's an opportunity and you know,
a past mark I think for both of those players
as well. So a lot to like from those debutantes
given they blooded six and some interesting questions for Scott
Robinson and his selectors headed the Rugby Championship.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, I mean, not a flawless outing for the All Blacks,
but yeah, what do you think the improvements will need
to be worked on before the Rugby Championship because it
gets tougher from now on with South Africa and maybe Australia.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, and Argentina as well, who can threaten of course too. Look,
I think the defending of the crossfield kick's got to
be a priority for the All Blacks. That said, considered
three of those in the last couple of weeks and
do seem vulnerable there, whether it's a just a defensive
system floor or players misreading when the opportunity for the
(05:07):
attacking team is going to come. They do need to
sort that out because you can imagine that the other
Rugby Championship teams will have definitely spotted that and I
think just stringing pressure and phases together has to be
a focus for the All Blacks And this is when
we saw definitely on the weekend, is that they probably
left the two or three tries out on the park,
if not more, with just the hands not helping them
(05:32):
out at the right time, or moments breaking down or
losing the ball into contact, just sort of things like that.
Because they've shown on the last couple of weeks and
there was opportunities against England and both those tests, it
didn't take as well as just having that killer instinct
to take those opportunities because in the modern test rugby
game they are few and far between. Against the top sides,
(05:54):
space is an absolute premium, so when those opportunities come,
you have to ice them and I think that's something
that the All Blacks coaching staff will be mowing over
as they take a week or so off before they
get back into campus.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It was great on this side of the world watching
on a Saturday afternoon out of Snapdragon Stadium in San Diego,
and it was pretty much your full house. Pretty impressive
though that field. It wasn't artificial grass, was it, but
it almost looked that way it was.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, it doesn't. I think it's a close cut grass
or something over there. I think a local football team
play on it, and the National Women's Soccer League as
well as well as the San Diego Legion, so they
use it for a variety of sports, and I guess
in America rugby doesn't have much weight to throw around
(06:41):
in terms of the turf. But didn't seem to cause
any players issues, so I don't think it was that
sort of astro turfy stuff we see often where I
know the Black fans playing in Canada absolutely loaths it
because they come with injuries and knees and various things
every time they played this, So it didn't seem that bad,
but it certainly wasn't the kind of turf that we
used to in their home in New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Will they play in the USA again? Do you think
the All Beaks was it a success?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah? I think I will. I suspect they might head
back there next year, and they're rarely keen to try
and hammer home the All Blacks brand in the United
States they head the World Cup in twenty thirty one
and convert some of those spectators and obviously that turns
into commercial opportunities for New Zealand Rugby as well that
they can potentially capitalize on with a number of brands.
(07:28):
And I guess it's all about a cash as a
cash grab, but it's about, you know, maximizing that commercial
doll in New Zealand just doesn't have the access to
those big companies. And when you look at some of
the outfit sponsoring the Six Nations and the European Theams
in particular, New Zealand brands just don't have that mite.
So if you can unlock the US get over there.
That were closer signing off a deal with Amazon a
(07:50):
couple of years ago that then fell through. You know,
there's a lot of money coming out of the United States,
so the presence they have on the ground is important.
I'm hearing they might play there next year, perhaps later
on in the year before they embark on the end
of your tour or as part of the end of
the tour, So that's still to be confirmed, but I
suspect this will certainly be a regular feature over the
(08:12):
next few years as a build to the twenty thirty
one Ruggy World Cup.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Fantastic Elliott, thanks for joining us, mate. Let's talk again soon.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Soun's good to be catch soon.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Elliot Smith, who called the game with Frank Buntz on
Saturday afternoon. Next she was in the car listening to
the second half of the game and they did a
damn good job. She's fantastic. Course, the next one the
Rugby Championship, as we talked about with Elliott. We play
Argentina in Wellington on August the tenth,
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