August 18, 2024 • 4 mins
Adam Cooper joins Craig Cumming out of Wellington for the latest updates and sport chat.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right, let's go to the capital. Catch up with that man,
Ed Cooper. Good morning, keeps here young, I'm good, Craig yourself.
I was just reading the Heartland Championship. I was just
feeling a little bit while you're waiting for you to
get you on ear Gee. What a great weekend. It's
always great when the Heartland Championship is so close. And
what a great weekend of rugby it was there.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, Oh fantastic, isn't it. I mean it's really is
when we're into MPC full swing, Heartland full swing, still
got the All Blacks. It's you know, almost every corner
of New Zealand is exposed to top level rugby. It's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, Fara Palmer Cup, which is there's some close games
again over the weekend, and that we also had the
All Blacks, which we never go. Me to Wellington again.
I can say that I never going to play in
the stadium again. That's off the radar. But a better
performance by the All Blacks. But one thing I also
thought Argentina or a pretty ordinary weren't they.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, I mean I think they were forced into being
ordinary in some respects, but they they just didn't look
at in the game at all, really in seat of
twenty minutes and I was sort of sitting there looking
to myself, oh, well, foregone conclusion. Here is at worth
continuing to watch this because the All Blacks were just
so one sided, so dominant. But you got to give
them credit, I think from the coaching staff, but particularly
(01:08):
the leaders, you know Ardie Savia in particular, that clearly
just had tunnel vision with the mindset that would only
finish with a result like we saw on Saturday night.
They stuck to the basics. I mean hearing just quite
a few of the interviews and comments made from the
coaches and players, since they obviously just tried to simplify
what they tried to do the previous week and weren't
(01:29):
able to. They didn't seem to move away from their
plans they had for Test one, but they were just
simply able to execute them a lot better. And just
the physical dominance and the nature of which they won
was was super impressive. And I think, you know, the
coaches did stick with a few players on the park
that some people had question marks over from the week before.
(01:49):
I think a lot of themselves played them back, played
themselves back into you knowing being regular starters for these
two tests coming up in South Africa. Talking to t J. Peinada,
Damien Mackenzie and the whole forward pack, I thought, you know,
as a collective played brilliantly and that's what set the
All Blacks up for victory on Saturday night.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It's interesting, isn't it, Because I reckon at the moment
we're really lost in what we expect from the All Blacks.
And I mean that respectfully because we and I said it.
I mean, we were on radio sport for many, many
years and the dominance that they had, and I always
said at the time, you've got to enjoy this because
it's not going to last forever. And you know, we're
still though, like we're are we happy we beat them
by that, We're still disappointed that they lost in Wellington.
(02:28):
You know, I think we're in a state that we're
not sure, we don't know who best players are. So
it's an interesting stage to be as a fan of
this All Black team.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, I agree, And I also think in some respects Craig,
the state of mourning that we get in when the
All Blacks lose isn't at what at once is either
you know you didn't. We didn't. It wasn't you know, Yes,
we're disappointed for a day or so after that Wellington lost,
but everyone moved on come Monday morning. There are other
things to worry about and talk about. And I think
that there's just different, you know, different options that people
(02:58):
have compared to rugby now and we've seen that in
the crowds, even for the All Blacks. You know, Wellington
was ten thousand shorts. Certainly wasn't a sell out at
Eden Park the other night as well, And so I
think a lot of people are just not worrying if
the All Blacks are losing as much as we might
have come to expect, you know, when they were the
team at its absolute peak, or even before then. Say
(03:19):
you know that the ninety nine and oh three World Cups,
which were disappointing and you know, just the tragedies it
almost was when at the time when when they lost.
So it's interesting and I do think, you know, we
do have to temper expectations. We're not going to be
the invincible team that we have been. You know for
the best part of the last ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Have you bounced back from a massive couple of weeks
around the Olympics you feel a little bit flat.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I wouldn't say flat, certainly, certainly energy is rebuilding. But no,
it was a wonderful couple of weeks, you know, just
still still just buzzing on all the different sport that
you know. When the Olympics are on, we all get
exposed to you know, and I think you know everything
from the canoe slalom to the rock climbing, and it's
just I always want to watch it all back because
(04:05):
it was just such thrilling variety of sport and seeing
people perform at the at the very top level. So
now it was a great couple of.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Weeks absolutely, and the athletes are coming back an opportunity
to catch up with them. We've got to keep moving.
Appreciate your time this morning, Coeps. You have a great day.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Thanks Greig, you too, mate.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
There we go, Adam Cooper out of Wellington,
Right, let's go to the capital. Catch up with that man,
Ed Cooper. Good morning, keeps here young, I'm good, Craig yourself.
I was just reading the Heartland Championship. I was just
feeling a little bit while you're waiting for you to
get you on ear Gee. What a great weekend. It's
always great when the Heartland Championship is so close. And
what a great weekend of rugby it was there.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, Oh fantastic, isn't it. I mean it's really is
when we're into MPC full swing, Heartland full swing, still
got the All Blacks. It's you know, almost every corner
of New Zealand is exposed to top level rugby. It's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, Fara Palmer Cup, which is there's some close games
again over the weekend, and that we also had the
All Blacks, which we never go. Me to Wellington again.
I can say that I never going to play in
the stadium again. That's off the radar. But a better
performance by the All Blacks. But one thing I also
thought Argentina or a pretty ordinary weren't they.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, I mean I think they were forced into being
ordinary in some respects, but they they just didn't look
at in the game at all, really in seat of
twenty minutes and I was sort of sitting there looking
to myself, oh, well, foregone conclusion. Here is at worth
continuing to watch this because the All Blacks were just
so one sided, so dominant. But you got to give
them credit, I think from the coaching staff, but particularly
(01:08):
the leaders, you know Ardie Savia in particular, that clearly
just had tunnel vision with the mindset that would only
finish with a result like we saw on Saturday night.
They stuck to the basics. I mean hearing just quite
a few of the interviews and comments made from the
coaches and players, since they obviously just tried to simplify
what they tried to do the previous week and weren't
(01:29):
able to. They didn't seem to move away from their
plans they had for Test one, but they were just
simply able to execute them a lot better. And just
the physical dominance and the nature of which they won
was was super impressive. And I think, you know, the
coaches did stick with a few players on the park
that some people had question marks over from the week before.
(01:49):
I think a lot of themselves played them back, played
themselves back into you knowing being regular starters for these
two tests coming up in South Africa. Talking to t J. Peinada,
Damien Mackenzie and the whole forward pack, I thought, you know,
as a collective played brilliantly and that's what set the
All Blacks up for victory on Saturday night.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It's interesting, isn't it, Because I reckon at the moment
we're really lost in what we expect from the All Blacks.
And I mean that respectfully because we and I said it.
I mean, we were on radio sport for many, many
years and the dominance that they had, and I always
said at the time, you've got to enjoy this because
it's not going to last forever. And you know, we're
still though, like we're are we happy we beat them
by that, We're still disappointed that they lost in Wellington.
(02:28):
You know, I think we're in a state that we're
not sure, we don't know who best players are. So
it's an interesting stage to be as a fan of
this All Black team.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, I agree, And I also think in some respects Craig,
the state of mourning that we get in when the
All Blacks lose isn't at what at once is either
you know you didn't. We didn't. It wasn't you know, Yes,
we're disappointed for a day or so after that Wellington lost,
but everyone moved on come Monday morning. There are other
things to worry about and talk about. And I think
that there's just different, you know, different options that people
(02:58):
have compared to rugby now and we've seen that in
the crowds, even for the All Blacks. You know, Wellington
was ten thousand shorts. Certainly wasn't a sell out at
Eden Park the other night as well, And so I
think a lot of people are just not worrying if
the All Blacks are losing as much as we might
have come to expect, you know, when they were the
team at its absolute peak, or even before then. Say
(03:19):
you know that the ninety nine and oh three World Cups,
which were disappointing and you know, just the tragedies it
almost was when at the time when when they lost.
So it's interesting and I do think, you know, we
do have to temper expectations. We're not going to be
the invincible team that we have been. You know for
the best part of the last ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Have you bounced back from a massive couple of weeks
around the Olympics you feel a little bit flat.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I wouldn't say flat, certainly, certainly energy is rebuilding. But no,
it was a wonderful couple of weeks, you know, just
still still just buzzing on all the different sport that
you know. When the Olympics are on, we all get
exposed to you know, and I think you know everything
from the canoe slalom to the rock climbing, and it's
just I always want to watch it all back because
(04:05):
it was just such thrilling variety of sport and seeing
people perform at the at the very top level. So
now it was a great couple of.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Weeks absolutely, and the athletes are coming back an opportunity
to catch up with them. We've got to keep moving.
Appreciate your time this morning, Coeps. You have a great day.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Thanks Greig, you too, mate.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
There we go, Adam Cooper out of Wellington,
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