August 21, 2024 • 5 mins
Head of Animal Health at Boehringer Ingelheim Paul Fitzpatrick joins Craig Cumming to discuss new research revealing less than half of NZ vets plan to stay in the profession long term.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right, let's talk animal health and the head of Animal
Health New Zealand at pharmaceutical and research company A ring Engelheim,
Paul Fitzpatrick joins us. Good morning, Paul, Hey young, good mining, Craig,
how are you. Yeah, good things. I've just been reading
some stuff about, you know, animal health and new research
reveals urgent action needed to safeguard New Zealand's animal health sector.
(00:23):
Can you expand on that and what's the challenges right now?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, thanks, Craig. So, look, as a business, we've been
here in these zeal operators fifty years and we're now
collects across the country on a regular basis, and we
know it's pretty tough out there with our vet practices,
particularly in the rural areas, and for us, it was
important to understand what their challenges were and how we
really look to sort of build it resilience and sustainability
(00:48):
in the in vetory practice going forward, because it does
have implications right through to what happens on particularly rural
areas and farming operations. Because no, that ex sector is
so fundamental to it, So having a viable and sustainable
vety profession servicing that is important for the future. So
we really wouldn't want to understand that we conducted a
(01:11):
major piece of research back in May. We were around
six hundred and fifty responses from vetnory professionals, nurses, technicians,
veterinarians across the country. And then we've used that to
work through some areas that we believe that we were
to work with the profession to look to build some
action plans to help improve that for the future.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
And what are those action plans because clearly numbers and
availability or access is an important part of it.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, very much. So. Yeah, so there were four key
themes that came out really, but it was around sort
of starting for the future, So a lot of the
issues around clinics being able to not only find people
of the entertainment, also around sort of bringing public on
the journey. I think this is the work that needs
to help explain the public how important the profession is.
Also really around creating work place well being in those
(02:01):
vet practices because there's a lot of challenges around personal
well being for people, particularly veterians and vettery professionals in
those and also acknowledging the power of vet nurses was
a vagul one for the rules then that would also
include the power of vetery technicians.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
So how do we fix that. I'm just thinking Minin
Actually I coach a couple of cricket players who have
been on become VET nurses. But again for me, they're
playing cricket at the moment. But one of the challenges
and even when I talk to them as I suppose location,
I mean, if you want to be out in the
rural sector, you've still got to be able to be
located in that area. But it's not that easy.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
That's easy. So there really is I think collective from
us working with the profession, both the events and the
and also the VET nurses working with the government, if
we can spend some time with come working through ways
that we can help make that transition and that sustainability,
sustainability in those rural areas through some sort of assistance.
I mean, there are programs already in place to them
(03:00):
and assistance, but we think there's opportunities to maybe do
more in that space to also help with training with
those VET practices around a well being, So a lot
of work that we believe we can help with that
in that area as well. So opportunities to really help
build that resilience because it is pretty tough out there.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
What's the response time? I'm just thinking, Look, I mean
normally when you want to vet its urgent, whether it
be in town or in the rural side of things.
But you know, what are we talking when it comes
to response times, because you know, as I said, you
when you ring them you need them, then can are
they accessible that quickly?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Well? They are now, I know they strive to do
that particually in rural areas. That's always a challenge because
you've got maybe one or two VET practices in a
rural area as opposed to lot in a city area.
So yeah, I know they always personally strive to do that.
That's why the starting issues so fundamental for us to
get right, and particularly when it comes to the VET
practices on after hours here many parts have to need
(04:00):
a vent in the middle of the night for whatever
reason for the things on challenges. So we know that
VET practices work hard to do that, and yeah, they
strive for that professionalist, but with that comes some challenges
around quality of life and what that means for those
people mechanisms. We want to make sure that they're there
for them.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, I did right, yep, yeah, I mean you just
can't turn the phone off. What about the government? Are
they Are they on site? Were they receptive to the summit?
You know, well, I suppose the phoebe is coming through.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah. Well, lookily just at the start of that process
being able to work with the association and meet with
various ministers to see how we could potentially find solutions
for that. And we also need to work with the
likes of the university around what that means for more
vets coming through every year as well. So look, we
believe that this government will be receptive to that, and
(04:48):
given that they have some real interest in that agricultural sector,
and we believe there's a lot of affinity there to
make that happen. So we tend to work with whoever
to see what opportunities we.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Can did did right, well, Keep up the good work, Paul,
and thanks very much for joining us this morning.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Thanks great, There we go, Paul.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Fitzpatrick, head of Animal Health New Zealand at pharmaceutical research
company Burring at Engelheim. Yet it's a real challenge and
not just you know, well round around the vets getting
in and we need them
Right, let's talk animal health and the head of Animal
Health New Zealand at pharmaceutical and research company A ring Engelheim,
Paul Fitzpatrick joins us. Good morning, Paul, Hey young, good mining, Craig,
how are you. Yeah, good things. I've just been reading
some stuff about, you know, animal health and new research
reveals urgent action needed to safeguard New Zealand's animal health sector.
(00:23):
Can you expand on that and what's the challenges right now?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, thanks, Craig. So, look, as a business, we've been
here in these zeal operators fifty years and we're now
collects across the country on a regular basis, and we
know it's pretty tough out there with our vet practices,
particularly in the rural areas, and for us, it was
important to understand what their challenges were and how we
really look to sort of build it resilience and sustainability
(00:48):
in the in vetory practice going forward, because it does
have implications right through to what happens on particularly rural
areas and farming operations. Because no, that ex sector is
so fundamental to it, So having a viable and sustainable
vety profession servicing that is important for the future. So
we really wouldn't want to understand that we conducted a
(01:11):
major piece of research back in May. We were around
six hundred and fifty responses from vetnory professionals, nurses, technicians,
veterinarians across the country. And then we've used that to
work through some areas that we believe that we were
to work with the profession to look to build some
action plans to help improve that for the future.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
And what are those action plans because clearly numbers and
availability or access is an important part of it.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, very much. So. Yeah, so there were four key
themes that came out really, but it was around sort
of starting for the future, So a lot of the
issues around clinics being able to not only find people
of the entertainment, also around sort of bringing public on
the journey. I think this is the work that needs
to help explain the public how important the profession is.
Also really around creating work place well being in those
(02:01):
vet practices because there's a lot of challenges around personal
well being for people, particularly veterians and vettery professionals in
those and also acknowledging the power of vet nurses was
a vagul one for the rules then that would also
include the power of vetery technicians.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
So how do we fix that. I'm just thinking Minin
Actually I coach a couple of cricket players who have
been on become VET nurses. But again for me, they're
playing cricket at the moment. But one of the challenges
and even when I talk to them as I suppose location,
I mean, if you want to be out in the
rural sector, you've still got to be able to be
located in that area. But it's not that easy.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
That's easy. So there really is I think collective from
us working with the profession, both the events and the
and also the VET nurses working with the government, if
we can spend some time with come working through ways
that we can help make that transition and that sustainability,
sustainability in those rural areas through some sort of assistance.
I mean, there are programs already in place to them
(03:00):
and assistance, but we think there's opportunities to maybe do
more in that space to also help with training with
those VET practices around a well being, So a lot
of work that we believe we can help with that
in that area as well. So opportunities to really help
build that resilience because it is pretty tough out there.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
What's the response time? I'm just thinking, Look, I mean
normally when you want to vet its urgent, whether it
be in town or in the rural side of things.
But you know, what are we talking when it comes
to response times, because you know, as I said, you
when you ring them you need them, then can are
they accessible that quickly?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Well? They are now, I know they strive to do
that particually in rural areas. That's always a challenge because
you've got maybe one or two VET practices in a
rural area as opposed to lot in a city area.
So yeah, I know they always personally strive to do that.
That's why the starting issues so fundamental for us to
get right, and particularly when it comes to the VET
practices on after hours here many parts have to need
(04:00):
a vent in the middle of the night for whatever
reason for the things on challenges. So we know that
VET practices work hard to do that, and yeah, they
strive for that professionalist, but with that comes some challenges
around quality of life and what that means for those
people mechanisms. We want to make sure that they're there
for them.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, I did right, yep, yeah, I mean you just
can't turn the phone off. What about the government? Are
they Are they on site? Were they receptive to the summit?
You know, well, I suppose the phoebe is coming through.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah. Well, lookily just at the start of that process
being able to work with the association and meet with
various ministers to see how we could potentially find solutions
for that. And we also need to work with the
likes of the university around what that means for more
vets coming through every year as well. So look, we
believe that this government will be receptive to that, and
(04:48):
given that they have some real interest in that agricultural sector,
and we believe there's a lot of affinity there to
make that happen. So we tend to work with whoever
to see what opportunities we.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Can did did right, well, Keep up the good work, Paul,
and thanks very much for joining us this morning.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Thanks great, There we go, Paul.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Fitzpatrick, head of Animal Health New Zealand at pharmaceutical research
company Burring at Engelheim. Yet it's a real challenge and
not just you know, well round around the vets getting
in and we need them
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